EV ELX 200 18sp Subwoofer Review
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2021
- A review of my EV ELX 200 18SP subwoofers.
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To call this a review is an understatement. You covered all the important points and then opened the thing up. Props to you and the dedication you put in. I own this same sub, havent ever used it at a gig as most of my weddings are about 60 ppl tops. Bought it because of its size at a steal like 2 years ago, would fit my small car back then perfectly. Perfect sub for the price range and portability.
Thank you for the feedback!
Finally someone showing whats inside!!! We need more videos like this! Thanks you! 10+
Loved the teardown. I have 15 inch for my band PA. Love it.
Fantastic Review....I really enjoyed the deep look into the EV Sub. I have one of these with a pair of EV ELX200 15SP's. Have a good one and take care
Smashed the like button the minute you demonstrated loading them in your vehicle. #kudos
Haha, thanks for the sub. I'm glad I could help.
Awesome review. Thanks!
Amazing detailed review. Like a surgeon disecting a specimen😁
Great review. Btw, Love the Rc crawlers on the shelf.
What size is the hex wrench to remove the grill of the subwoofer?
I keep hearing everyone call these beginner subwoofers. I currently have the Maui 44G2 which are absolutely incredible. They beat the old Evolve 50Ms that I had. I just ordered a pair of 2 of these ELX200 18SPs. Was hoping to stack my Maui 44G2s on top. Wouldn't these supplement the sound? Also what are your thoughts about 4 of these for outdoor events? Biggest incentive for these were definitely the Quicksmart App control. Super convenient & intuitive
I have the 12" (passive) version, which has the same enclosure thickness of 15 mm. The magnet on the 12" woofer is also the same. My speaker also has max 400 Watt cont. power handling. For the 12" subwoofer size, these are great values...
For a 18" sub, it is very weak. I had a 18" subwoofer, which was made from 18mm plywood and had a speaker of real 1000 W RMS. This was a 25 years old bass reflex box from the 90's.
To sum up, I recommend the 12" variant, because that is as good as it should be. However among 15"/18" sub boxes, this box is a low-end product with weak performance. For 18", I would go for the EKX/ETX series or other manufacturers like dB Tech.
I live in California and own 4 of this bad boys... I know theres better subs but..Most of my gigs are Outdoors 200-300 ppl... 90-100 degrees summer time... Iv had them on direct sunlight 5-8 hours I'v herd they Overheat... I haven't had an issue with them... They work great !!!
Awesome! Glad to hear they are working well for you, and thanks for the feedback!
I think it's all about expectations. Some people expect too much out of them for their value and portability. Having 4 of them definitly helps. I'd love to get a 2nd set myself.
what's the recommended setting for this sub to get best bass response?
Great video.... thank you for your in depth review.
You're welcome!
This is wonderful. I’m just getting into DJing what speakers should I get for highs ???
Thanks for the tear-down, very informative. Unlike most other pro audio manufacturers, Electro-Voice inflates their peak power ratings by a factor of four. That makes the amp module in this 1200W peak sub comparable to a 300W RMS power amp, driving an 8-ohm speaker. To EV's credit, their speakers are more efficient than most of their competitors, which accounts for this sub's 132db peak SPL rating. I wouldn't count on that much thump outside of a narrow band around 60 Hz, especially in Club mode. Widest low-end frequency response appears to be Music mode, though you'll need to crank up the volume to fully appreciate it. One huge advantage of these EV subs is their remarkably light weight, only 64 lbs, the lightest 18-inch pro audio sub around.
Thanks for the additional info!
EV provides you with 3 performance values.
1. Continuous (aka RMS)
2. Program power (2x cont.)
3. Peak power (4x cont.)
I think that the program power is the one we should focus on in case of full-range speakers. This means real music without compression, EQ and other modifications. It is applicable for full-range use, when drum peaks are followed by much quieter mid-high parts.
Continuous is usually tested with pink noise. This is applicable for subwoofers, because that is low-passed from the full-range. It is not full-range music, but parts of the music with high level of low frequency peaks.
@@barnaczukor4235 - "Peak power (4x cont.)" is what you get if you run a square wave rail-to-rail through EV's class-D power amplifier. Good luck with that.
@@FallenStarFeatures peak power is a nonsense marketing bullshit.
It can handle 400 Watts, but it has nothing to do with 1600 Watts, I am sure...
what's the recommended setting for this sub to get best bass response?
what's the recommended setting for this sub to get best bass response?
Would you reccomend getting this or the ekx 15sp? Same price point
I own this sub. I replaced the woofer with the more powerful one that Rockville makes for it and wow!!! What a huge difference! This thing is almost as loud as my QSC KS118 now.
Oh, wow. Good to know. I was wondering how the cabinet would hold up to a more powerful sub.
Thanks for the info!
What model Rockville speaker did you install?
@@dougtodd9184 I posted a link to it here but looks like it was deleted.
@@back2djing873 .. I did the same thing with my EV ETX subs changed out the woofers for new stronger ones and the sound is night and day once you take out the woofer that came with the EV you’ll notice how cheap it looks it’s amazing they sound as good as they do with the woofers that come in them so I’m curious as to how these subs will sound with new stronger subs I may buy some just to test that theory
@@hollywoodthedj1673 so what are the best subs for the money? Are there better subs to buy? I'm building a system at home. Already have my highs. I want a sub but don't know enough and don't want to spend 2k.
Cool
Decent beginner sub. Good for smaller events where a little more low end is required. Very nice review by the way. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for your feedback.
That's a cute little magnet... lol! Great review. I Might grab one to go with a pair of EV ZLX 15p's.
How do you set the input level 1&2 on this?
Hi cool review... I have a question maybe you could help...my 15 inch loud speaker blew out.....I took it in for repair......do you think it also blew out my 18 ev sub.... thanks
I think EV has hit this line out of the park! Because of back issues I have been looking for a light subwoofer to pair with one QSC K8.2 to make a micro system. I have a QSC K Sub but it is too heavy at 70+ pounds. I tried a Fishman Sub300 which is 35 pounds but its 8 inch woofer and 300 watts wasn't enough. QSCKS112 at 63 pounds, great sub but too heavy. New Bose SUB2 is excellent at 52 pounds and goes down to 37HZ. But at $1,200 too expensive for what you get. Gee for $1,500 you can get a KS118! So the winners in my search were RCF 702 42 pounds and the EV200EXL-12SP. Both 42 pounds, both 129dB peak, both go down to 40HZ. RCF 702 is $150 more. Feeling like Goldilocks, this one too weak, this one too heavy. The winner was the EV! Hits as hard as the RCF. Club mode is especially noticeable difference. I know your review was about the bigger EXL-18, but they have much in common. Construction, amp, and App.What sold me was the great App! Thanks for the great review.
Absolutely agree. It's a really solid option for anyone looking for something a little more compact, and lightweight, but still pack a decent punch.
Thank you for your feedback, and I'm happy you were able to find what you were looking for in the EV.
@@back2djing873 … it will pack an even bigger punch if you swap out the woofers that come in them with stronger ones then you are ready I did this same thing with my EV ETX subs and they hit way harder then the ones that came in them and don’t clip as early as they did before I can push it way more!
@@back2djing873😮
That magnet made me laugh 😂
Lol, yes. It could definitly be a bit beefier. But I guess in a lightweight sub, that would be one of the bggest places to save. No point having a big powerful magnet rattle a light weight cabinet apart.
It was unexpected yes. Reminds me of those vintage guitar cabinet speakers. Absolutely tiny magnets.
You got a like as soon as you filmed yourself loading that sub into your truck. Found your video as I'm debating on getting this sub or the EKX-15SP. Any chance you've used that sub as well?
Hi Mike. No, I haven't used the EKX-15SP. It is a higher end sub than the ELX series, so I imagine they would be pretty punchy for their size. I suppose it depends on the type of gigs and tyoe of music you'll be using them for. Sorry I can't help more with that one. I think the EKX might be a more long term investment because it's a higher end sub. You could always add an 18 inch later if you need a little extra low end base.
@@back2djing873 appreciate the reply! I ended up going with the EKX-18SP as it was only $100 more than the 15. Only place that had stock was Thomann in Germany. Even with import fees and taxes I still saved a few hundred bucks instead of buying it local.... Which I still would have done had anyone in Canada had stock.
What a beast 🔥🔥💯
Haha, thanks!
I have the 12 inch model 12SP. They have the same amp. I know the 18 inch goes louder and lower. I don't need more volume for my small indoor gigs. Playing backing tracks. Any reason to upgrade? Would the 12 inch be any less boomy or tighter?
I think you'll be fine with what you have if it's already working for you. I haven't used the 12s yet myself, but yes in general, 12 inch should be a little tight and less boomy sounding.
@@back2djing873 Thanks. I can't stress enough how Bluetooth App control sets this line apart from other conventional subwoofers!
It is very convenient. Even when I just fire them up at home for a moment just to here them, I use the bluetooth. Really easy to make a quick adjustment, or change the EQ preset. As well as real time monitoring from the DJ booth.
@@back2djing873 what's the recommended setting for this sub to get best bass response?
amazing job on the vid this will be useful for me in the future
Thanks kiddo!
Just for taking that shit apart, you earned my sub! No pun intended :)
Hey bro nice video, anyway how this big boys work for you on a hot and sunny environment, i heared some reviews they will overheat and get hot and affect the sounds? Thnx
I haven't had a chance to test them out yet in that kind of enviroment, but I have heard that they limit output when they get too hot. I haven't tested that myself yet though. It's part of what makes them great for newer DJs as they are well protected. If they are getting hot to the point that they limit, then they might be under powered for that type of enviroment. You might want to look at something with a little more output so that you don't have to push them to their limits in hot weather to get the performance you need. Maybe the EKX or ETX. I think those would do better for outdoor events anyway. All depends how hard you need to push them for your needs.
@@back2djing873 thank you bro.. I have two of these as well.. I guess that will cover for like 300 person.? Without pushing the limit..? With two zlx 12 tops
Where about in Canada are you?
Alberta
Always wondered what rms that driver is and the real rms watts out to the driver for the price been told these are not bad at all! Looks cheap stamped normal driver. You do wonder if you did put a better driver but suppose its down amp as most boxes same...Great review!
Yeah, pretty cheap stamped driver for sure. But they do get the job done.
I have heard of people putting other drivers in, although I'm not sure if the box would be worth the trouble. It's definitely not built to handle a really strong driver. It might work, but not get the most out of the driver as it's a pretty light weight box. It might not be stiff enough. It really serves It's purpose well though as a light weight mid level sub.
Thanks for the feedback!
@@back2djing873 Thanks for reply good to hear, extra mm would of helped 🤣 so true thou this is thing they got to make profit so i understand, heard a beyma driver is meant to fit, do you always have it set to 0db
I've so far actually kept my subs a couple db under. But things are quiet here still with covid, so I haven't had too many opportunities to stretch their legs yet. I do try to run things 0db and under though.
Those Ev’s work great specially when you can’t spend the big bucks on fancy equipment, the only thing about this subs they don’t do really good on low .frequencies
They will do a little better on low end if you put a more quality woofer inside like a B&C or immanence
Eminence is the oem woofer for ELX200 line. This is a weak subwoofer considering its size of 18". It is the low-end of Eminence woofers.
B&C or 18Sounds would make an improvement. But their woofers cost 5x more than the oem Eminence Alpha woofer does.
If the subwoofer was a B&C 18PS100, the speaker would cost 2-3 times more. This is why it is ELX200 and not ETX sub that the speaker uses a cheap Chinese Eminence woofer instead of a better one.
Wtf. Isnt that what its meant for? Hard pass on this thing.
I have this exact sub. Granted, only 1 currently. I can't get the bluetooth to work. I've downloaded the app and messed with everything I can think of. You got any idea? Does it have to be paired with a loudspeaker before it recognizes the subwoofer?
Hi Rick, mine are connected to bluetooth without being connected to loud speakers, so that shouldn't be the problem. I know sometimes it can be an issue between pairing through your phones bluetooth settings and pairing through the app. I don't recall exactly, but I'll have a look at mine when I get a moment. Sometimes apps can be picky about whether you're paired through the phones bluetooth settings or not. Have a look in your setting and try unpairing, or pairing the sub through "bluetooth setting" then see if the app works. I hope that helps, and as mentioned, I'll try it out on mine when I get a chance to see if I can help further. Let me know if that helps. If it doesn't help, I'll see what I can do here, and then make a video about it if needed.
@@back2djing873 I've tried connecting directly with bluetooth, but when I click the sub it says an app is required. Then get on the app and it can't find anything. I'm not one to be technologically challenged usually, but this has me stumped. Lmao. I appreciate the help and feedback. I've tried looking for other reviews and no luck really.
Did you try unpairing through your phone settings, then going through the EV app? I know the frustration. I've seen that message before as well
I just had a look, and when mine is connected to the app, it doesn't show that it's paired in my phones bluetooth settings. I'm pretty sure that if you have it paired to your phone, you have to unpair it, then go through the app.
@@back2djing873 it never pairs. It just shows it as a device that can be connected to thru phone bluetooth. Try pairing it says requires app to pair. Get app and it shows nothing.
Can i use this subwoofer with my Sony MHC GZX33D HOME AUDIO SYSTEM?
Yeah, I don't see why not. The only issue might be connectors. Im guessing your homesystem has RCA outputs, in which case you wiil need RCA to Quarter inch cables, or quarter inch to RCA adaptors.
ruclips.net/video/MyLxrUCDQWc/видео.html you watch the video then you can understand about my home audio system
Ahh, I see. About the only way would be to wire it up yourself. Splice into the speaker wires. But I don't know if I recomend it. Depends how inclined you are. Seems a bit over powered for that system though.
@@back2djing873 many many thanks for your replying 👍👍
Great review on the Subwoofer mate, we should do a collaboration video one day!
Thank you! That sounds like a good idea!
Hello 👋 I have 2 new ELX200 18s i have a question I had them playing like for 4 hours and then they started to smell like a burning smell I just want it to know if it’s normal?
Hello 👋🏼?
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Thanks for the video. Considering the ELX 12 tops and 18 subs vs same in the EKX so this is very helpful. Also have a compact truck that I may place these in the back seat. Nice to see the practical applications.
Thanks for sharing the wattage and spl rating. I have not been able to find any documentation for EV products stating wether PEAK or RMS. How did you verify the wattage is peak?
You're very welcome. I'm glad you found it useful.
As far as the wattage rating, I contacted EV support and asked them. They told me the 1200 watt is peak, and they also stated that RMS is usually around 50% of peak rating.
From my own experience, RMS is usually slightly more that 50%. Hope that helps.
Also, side note: EV support was very quick and helpful. They have a live chat function on their website, and through that, they put me directly in contact with the right people to answer my questions.
@@back2djing873 Thanks buddy. I’ve heard the same re: RMS usually being 1/2 of peak. And sounds like EV customer service was on point.
Again, great reviews.
@@georgethedj4946 I believe also, generally as a rule, if a manufacturer only states one wattage rating, It's most often the peak rating unless they state otherwise. Of course that's not a guarantee, but kind of an industry standard.
@@back2djing873 I agree
EV peak power ratings are four times the RMS power, making this amp module 300W RMS. One look at the size of the power amp module in this unit is all you need to confirm that estimate.
Pretty crappy build inside for being an EV. Was planning on buying. Not anymore. Thanks great video & review 👍!
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@@back2djing873 Ok, cool, keep up the great content!!! :)
Thank you, will do!
U should have play a song with the grill off
Thanks for the feedback. I will keep that in mind for next time.
@@back2djing873 ok
If you are to add a 1000 W RMS subwoofer, the enclosure will fall apart. This box was designed for this cheapo semi-chinese woofer, which is Eminence Alpha in practice.
You can add a better woofer to have slight sound pressure improvement, but you should know the limits.
I have 2 of these be honest im a bass head and I think these sub is trash I should have more bass with 2 18 my bad.... if u want bass not these ones now I have to find something with more bass so mine is up for sale....