It comes to the point where we must leave batman behind, as his morals have a limit to where it may hold us back from the REAL world we actually face! A man must never allow someone else to hurt the ones he does/doesnt know!
After hearing this, having seen Supernatural, and The Boys, i really hope he gets a lot more mainstream work. He's such a good actor, voice and live action.
This was delivered SO well. Props to the VA playing Jason. That last line “I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic piece of evil death worshipping garbage!” Had so much emotion behind it it felt real.
like seriously joker is just a normal guy what's stopping either green lantern superman or someone else who can fly and survive space from just flying into Gotham knocking out joker and throwing him into the sun
@@acasualphysicistthat is what is being said, if Batman had killed him yes the number of murderers in the world wouldn’t change but the amount of people murdered would. He’d be saving tons by killing the joker.
@@Noddy-Gaming I think it’s interpretable either way, the fact that you kill a murderer because of that fact does change the number of people that died because of them; in this case that number increases by 1 when they die. Although I do agree with you now I think that was the intended idea which in hindsight makes my comment unnecessary
Batman: I wanted to but he was made an Ambassador to Iran and then he faked his death after trying to kill the EU but failed thanks to Superman intervening.
THANK YOU! The only reason Bats haven't iced that clown is cause DC forces him to not and let him take the blame even though there is multiple times he is shown to desperately want to and has actually tried to but got retconned.
He’s never once tried to “justify” Jokers actions. He just truly doesn’t believe that he or anyone deserves the power to say who lives or dies and Batman knows himself if he were to kill Joker it’d be easy to kill again and again until he can’t help it. That or he’ll become even worst than the Joker. Take the Batman Who Laughs. Edit: Since you all think you’re so smart, I wasn’t trying to justify Batman’s actions either. I was literally stating the canon reasons given to us by DC and using that to prove the original point of “Batman doesn’t justify joker killing millions of people”
@@ronniecarter9732 u forgot nowhere in there world is safe or secure enough to stop any metahuman or above . Arkham is supposed to be their most secure prison and even ramps up security every time. It’s just the way of their world, no death sentence for joker ever only “rehabilitation “ that’s gets u a hot loving ride or die disposable girlfriend.
@@keythekidd bro what? I think batman born for justice not the justice in the law the Real justice. Of course not every criminal deserve the death but the Joker is the exception. It's call a necessary evil. The batman who laughs become in what he is by breathing a stupid gas. Your argument is not valid
Is not about joker Batman do everything for the mission the only thing he doesn't is killing If he break that he is going to be the judge and executioner like a anti hero
And who guarantees the right to life? Killing a criminal like the Joker can be a dangerous trap, it turns out, one mass murderer dies and another is potentially born.
@@OhNoTheFaceI get it though....Jason has a darkness that most of the Batfam doesn't even Bruce but the thing is...the was brought back with the Lazarus pit...he would a whole lot worse considering the after effects of the pit but he still fights for justice even though as an antihero
@@justanotheruser7885 Not kill for someone else, but kill for the sake of everyone else. Joker has and still could potentially mass murder countless people, the severity is different from a street robber who reluctantly murdered because of resistance from the victim while the other just wants to see the world burn
@@Renaissance464 The point is he should in this case. Plus stubbornly refusing to kill 1 person who totally deserves it because he fears he might get addicted to it just tells us that he's mentally weak when Batman is considered one of the strongest mentally in the entire DC universe It is also selfish, he's the kind of guy that would most likely not kill a villain holding a remote to detonate a bomb to an entire city while choosing to disarm him instead except in this case it would be too late if he chooses the latter yet he'd still do it either way
Joker really wins in this situation. Batman can't kill the Joker due to his moral compass. Jason is hurt and pissed off at Batman for not avenging his death. Joker gets to keep pushing Batman's buttons until he breaks and Jason's tragedy is salt and lemon juice in the VERY open wound.
At this point it looks like batman was using his "moral code" as an excuse to keep to a promise he made long ago. Im all for keeping true to your promises but sometimes these things need to be revisited cause they're more detrimental than they are helpful. What started out as noble, became questionable... every single time joker escapes a few more people die... death row still exists in some places for a reason there are entities in society that refuse or cannot integrate back into it.
Morally speaking, ending the existence of a single life after all the lives that one has taken and knowing given the chance he’d commit genocide for a giggle on a rainy day,…. My moral compass wouldn’t even tick. Situational awareness would insist you remove him from any future possibilities. It’s not about promises or morals or being a hero, it’s about fear of his own demons and weaknesses.
Also batman finally let joker died by chosen save jason at the end, but..... Will joker finally died by that explosive? Highly doubt joker can survived by fall at chopper explosive and next event he still return as same person not another gas infection joker
It's all wargames, victim is inexistent. Murder is irrelevant. Children dying is unimportant. All that matters is noone messing with my secret gae crush -orphan in a black full body latex
Blame the justice system. Killing someone out of rage is never good, and that's what it would be with batman. That's his point in the movie. It'd be too easy because it's what he wants. He hates joker and wants nothing more than to choke the life out of him for everything he's done, but he can't do it without going into the darkest part of his mind.
@precisemerc The only excuse he needs is the fact that the Joker has proven that he cannot be contained and will continue to kill unless he is killed. You don't get that with regular street thugs.
@sans the skeleton again, blame the justice system. Batman isn't judge, jury, and executioner. He's no more or less responsible than the people who don't give joker the death penalty. He catches him, joker escapes, batman gets him again. The right way. Every time because that's what good men do.
Exactly he had the right to be mad at Batman, but also even if Batman had killed joker Batman would have become the new joker and the cycle would continue so growing up is going and watching the show to see the main context of this because while in persuit to kill joker he ends up destroying a bridge and ending many lives it’s a lose lose situation that the criminal justice system should fix ending the lives of public threats should not be Batman’s job it should be dealt with by the court
@@Dr_popo_ Batman wouldn’t become the new joker, there are stories where joker dies or is killed by Batman and Batman doesn’t become joker at all. Joker is a major part of Batman’s story, but there are bigger things than him. Also, to say it’s the courts job to judge the criminals and not Batman’s is kinda ridiculous bc the guy literally dresses up as a bat and beats up criminals and that’s not his job that’s the police’s job yet he still does it.
@@scoobsshrooms109 No, he wouldn't 'become the joker'. But he'd lose his sanity and would be filling graveyards with even jaywalkers because 'just in case'.
He didn’t even TRY to kill him. I just re-read Batman Hush and he only decided to try to kill the Joker when he thought Tommy Elliot died, Jim had to talk him out of it. He cared more for a dude that wanted his parents to die than a child he took in and treated like a son.
Yeah in the movie in hush he though that the joker killed Tommy Elliot and tried to killer joker , but this movie makes me feel he doesn’t care for someone who sees him as a farther , like he cares more of a friend he barely saw than the kid who he’s been with him since he was a young child
I don’t remember what series or issue it was, but during the time between Jason’s death and Tim taking over the mantle of Robin, there was a moment where Batman was ambushed by Joker and Scarecrow. Scarecrow hits Batman with his fear toxins, reminding Bruce of Jason’s death. After that, he immediately tries to strangle Joker. Batman absolutely wanted to kill Joker, and he even said so in this movie. Batman also said after, “But if I go down that path, I’ll never come back.” What I always interpreted this line was Bruce saying that he knows he’s not mentally capable of handling killing someone. That afterwards, he’ll never stop killing.
"If he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this evil pile of death worshipping garbage" One of the best lines I've heard from an animated movie
@@wc3362 which is bullshit btw. Hes an objective bad thats killed thousands upon thousands and injured god knows how many. Batmans a monster for letting him live. Not for killing him.
@@Linkophere yeah exactly - that cartoon where batman dies / snaps joker neck i forgot the name, says it well every life joker ever takes after escaping, while planning, and so on, is all because batman choose to let him live he could have saved thousands, yet his reluctance to kill made so many people die by not killing he was a monster, he knowingly let someone who would invariably escape & kill free, just to follow a code? i know batman is also a bit crazy, but i dont think killing those that truly have no hope as joker would've turned batman evil
@@brunobruno-c1d The Batman Who Laughs huh, yeah yeah pretty fucked up timeline. But damn, Joker don't have to be killed by batman in the first place. He doesn't even belong in Arkham, just send him onto an electric chair already. Yeah sure he is a psychopath and definitely antisocial. But no, he ain't really got mental illness which in this case "don't know what he was doing" since hell he sure does, he sure know he was doing crimes and enjoyed it. Nah, that ain't a case of mental illness preventing him from getting a death sentence. You see this kind of scum all over those severe prison. Hell, if Joker don't get a death sentence, Peter Kurten or John Wayne Gacy Jr. should get the same treatment am I right?
The proper more righteous version would be “i would rather bury strangers over my own people”. In wars your ‘enemies’ are just people with same circumstances as you but in a different country or group. the so called enemy was set by your government or theirs.
Jason did exactly what he said he would too in the alternate ending, he did nothing but look for the joker and when he found him he put a knife in his eye
Essentially he's asking " you didn't save me, but you continually save HIM" and it's true, cause Batman knows the only thing stopping him from becoming like the Joker, is not killing. But it also makes him complacent and an accessory to all Jokers murders
Why is killing wrong? He has killed too so that's the ultimate justice if someone did bad thing we do the same with him even a child would realize that
I love how they explain what would become of batman if he did kill the joker. Joker would look like a child's party clown with bad yelp reviews if batman went mad. .
batman being worse than joker when he starts killing is just some bs they pulled to stop people on shiting on batman for not killing. and its still not a reasonable excuse even now. his father did a good job as batman killing and jason did it even more brilliantly! punisher is awesome too! the entire thing is just a bs excuse
BS..so he have enough willpower to do not kill him (or anybody) no matter what but he do not have enough to STOP after killing once? Compared to Joker the rest of the bad boys is next to nothing.....
Which is exactly what it is for batman. He doesnt avoid killing because its against his morals, he does it because he's terrified of what he'd do next. Because at his core, the dude's an unstable maniac and he knows it. No rational person inducts young orphan kids into fighting serial killers, arms dealers, and rapists. Thats what crazy people do.
Batman cannot kill Joker really. He will be the very thing Joker wanted him to be. At the expense 14million lives the cost is too great. He really lost this one. There was an alternate ending where he kills joker so maybe in this multiverse the 14million live were fated to die.
Almost every city in the DC Universe carries out laws death sentences. Gotham is the only city that lets extremely dangerous sinners keep on taking more innocent lives. No wonder people leave Gotham due to its corrupt criminal justice system.
He doesn't kill because it leads heroes closer to becoming the villian. Thinking they know better when it comes to life and death. Mix that with power and you have a tyrant. Batman knows that crossing that line will also make him a villian. So he kills the Joker, and inevitably becomes something like the Joker. It doesn't solve the issue. Like in Injustice, when Superman finally kills the Joker. He ends up becoming a terrible tyrant.
@@ThatGuyNebula that’s only true if the writers deem it so. You could easily write a hero who killed a horrible person like joker and not turn into a tyrant. There is literally nothing you can do to stop joker besides killing him. What’s worse? Letting a murderous psychopath live knowing he will always escape from prison easily and murder millions, or kill him and spare those millions?
@@Keopholora Unfortunately, it is true because the writers did deem it that way. And because conceptually, it makes sense. This already happened when Superman killed the Joker. He ended up replacing the Joker and killed a ton of people, turned on his friends, etc. So the question really is: Do I kill the Joker and end up replacing him except this time there is no Batmam to stop him, or continue being Batman? The point is, we should not be the ones who decide life or death; tyrants do that. Batman is a detective first and foremost, so obviously he's going to follow as much of the law insofar as it doesn't hinder his investigation
Damian was lowkey right too. Joker killed 10,000,000 citizens along with Batman’s friends wife and unborn child. Mind you Joker has been killing before this. Batman’s no kill policy is just stupid. He would actually go to war with superman instead of just ending the joker. In fact had he dealt with the joker earlier the injustice timeline would’ve been way different.
Oga your talking about injustice universe where joker gets help to acquire a nuke and fear toxin and kryptonite to trick superman to kill his wife and unborn baby which nuked metropolis (many different universes for batman and only very few he goes crazy killing joker very very very few with contrived bullshite but tons many more where he be fine if did kill joker)
@@THEONLYOBA damian has no say, he was an assasin and okay with it okay with taking lives left and right, he was always a disgrace to the bat family and will always be remembered as the accident bruce never wanted
@@kelpyg9804 but we still need to take in the fact of what Damian said was true. Joker needed to die along time ago. All these issues would’ve been avoided had Batman killed joker
@@neilraymondtia2401that’s what makes it a cringy children’s show. If he gave up his idealistic morals to put an end to people’s suffering and then had to go through the trauma to recover, that would’ve been a worthwhile show to watch
Such a difficult road. Batman knows why he cant kill, even someone like joker, but no one else fully understands. Everytime batman has gotten powers or killed someone he's tweaked out and destroyed planets or even multi verses
In the case of a mass murderer on the level of the Joker, his no killing rule is selfish at best. He’s basically saying that his code is more valuable to him than the lives of the innumerable victims the Joker has killed.
It’s actually not selfish, we are at one point showed a timeline where he did kill the Joker after Jason’s death and let’s just say Batman was better off not killing him. In fact the whole DC universe is. It appears it’s either Batman crosses the line and becomes a murderous psychopath himself or Joker stays alive. Which do you prefer?
This is why I prefer Batman in series where Bruce is the lead. Far too often the world around Batman is too grim and it's Bruce and the Bat family that see the good in it and want to protect it. You don't get the Bruce moments when he's standing next to the Boy Scout or is being told off for decisions he made as Batman acting like it's a competition of who's more emotionally f#cked up.
In the same movie Batman also scolds Jason for shattering a guys collar bone in defence while the guy was unloading an smg on Jason. As if Batman hasn’t kicked people down flights of stairs possibly crippling or killing them
@@cheeseburger5325 Batman himself is violent, it would mean more coming from someone who doesn’t beat the living shit outta people. I don’t need the series explained to me I just like making jokes
Batman’s absolutely wrong for not killing the joker.. but just pointing out that the smg scene, Batman was mad bc the guy couldn’t talk and give them a lead anymore
I don’t understand when they say “if you kill the villain you’re just as bad as they are”. Because when you get to the extent of things that joker has done I dont think a single person wouldn’t be happy he was killed.
Look at injustice, Superman took 1 life, look what happened. Batman is crazier than the joker. One bad day made him the batman. Imagine if he had another.
To be fair it’s not Batman or any heroes job to really kill a villain until court. Like this whole thing is pinpointing Batman to be oblivious when it’s not his judge to execute any villain. It’s the justice systems job to do the execution.
@@HowToEatChihuahua One thing is spiderman is much better at saving civilians, which isnt batmans fault but true. At the least batman could have the blood of evil on his hands than the blood of innocents.
@@HowToEatChihuahuaThe difference is that Spiderman has shown that he is willing to kill his villains if necessary as we saw when kingpin had aunt may shot. I know he didn’t kill him but he said that if his aunt died he would come back to murder him, batman wouldn’t kill the joker even if he murdered his entire bloodline.
Poor Jason. Doesn't realize Bruce is a severely deranged psychopath. If Bruce kills and loses his sanity, graveyards would be littered with jaywalkers.
Some random dude robbing a store: Batman literally beats them to the point of being a vegetable. The Joker literally killing your entire city with a nuke: Batman slaps his wrist and tells him he's wrong. Like really, dude.
Batman wants the joker dead more than anybody else, that's why he doesn't kill him. He know that if he lets go even a little bit he will snap, because what he wants is for everyone to feel his pain from the void inside him. He forces himself to stand by set rules and his code even though he doesn't want to. He doesn't truly believe in the goodness in people and in justice, he just forces himself to believe in it.
Seriously imagine one of the enemies of your dad kills you and then you come back to life and see that your dad just lets him off with a small beating before sending them to the revolving door that is Arkham
The last sentence where he said that he would do nothing but search the entire earth to hunt down Joker really tells us about how much Jason cares and loves batman and sees him as a father figure.
No he isn't. Neither Batman or Jason are the heroes Gotham needs. They are the ones it deserves. Gotham needs a hero to look up to that isn't morally ambiguous like Batman stalking his victims and beating them into an inch of their life or Jason straight up gunslinging and executing petty crooks. Gotham deserves to have a protector that isn't afraid to get their hands dirty and is able to strike fear into the hearts of the wicked because Gotham's criminals deserve to be punished. But what Gotham really needs is something to believe in, a beacon of hope for the citizens, just like how metropolis has a Superman.
@@divineshrek3307 same bro. That pissed me tf off to no. End. That’s why I hate batman for that. That’s your fucking family… atp Im convinced joker and Batman are gay for each other
Batman is broken he is driven by his madness he is as mad as joker if u think about it because he enjoys the game he loves the chase it gives him purpose in someways he shows u he is just a man in some ways he shows u he is a hero this is why I love the story and the stories connected with Batman it gives u a true taste of human nature
Batman is no hero. He is not human either. Most people at a point would kill joker long before. Especially the things he has done to close friends and family. Even spider man who is ultimately a better person than batman, would kill if anyone ever touch his friends and family.
Although it’s a good interpretation it’s not exactly true. Batman or Bruce would LOVE to give up the cape and cowl if he knew Gotham was in good hands. You can see this in BTAS in the episode where mad hatter gives Batman his literal “dream” where he isn’t Batman anymore and someone else is. He even says he is fine with it and finally gets to rest. Though to be fair his parents are alive in his dream which could be a factor. Still though Bruce has his memories of being Batman and will give up it in a heartbeat if Gotham was safe.
@Politically Corrupted yeee boiii I loved him in SPN. His voice is too distinct not to recognize for me. I just watched Under the Red Hood last night, it's a good movie.
@@ThePokemon11 if you've ever watched anime I'll tell you in fairy tell elfman I thought had a super recognizable voice and I thought his voice was like all might mixed with Zoro and I looked it up and the same guy voiced all 3 of them
This makes me remember what avatar yang Chen said to Aang Yang Chen : " i know you're a gentle spirit and the monks taught you well but this isn't about you it's about the world" Aang: " but the monks taught me to detach myself from the world" Yang Chen: " many did and reached enlightenment but the avatar could never do it because your sole duty is to the world this is my wisdom for you aang, selfless duty requires you to sacrifice your own spiritual needs and do whatever it takes " Batman has moral values he doesn't kill and i respect his devotion for it but what he's doing isn't to help the world and the innocent it's to spare his own soul from commiting murder which is something most of us would like to avoid but if you're going so far to save people but stop there it feels half assed, some people can redeem themselves giving second chances is great but sometimes it's not worth it some people are so dangerous that their possible redemption isn't worth the damage they can cause because this isn't an ideal world some good intentions can lead to catastrophic results
Yep. And luckily Aang didn't listen to Chens "advice" and was loyal to his moral values and determined to find another way hence the reason he tried to find an answer to that question which eventually lead him to an ancient lion turtle that taught him how to bend the energy within humans who he never would have met if he didn't have that inner struggle when it came to killing somebody( which for sure would have stained his pure soul and probably would have changed him for worse) . There is always the easy way and the right way. But when we talk about joker, batmans unconcern is just dumb and wrong on so many levels, after the 2nd or 3rd escape you should understand that an average asylum is just not enough to imprison this mf for long and good
The fact that there’re laws irl that allowed to kill criminal, that’s nowhere near as dangerous as the Joker, just shows how stupid Batman’s moral code is.
Its not a lawful code its a MORAL code. You don't understand Batman. He doesn't kill because he truly believes in redemption because he redeemed himself. If he does kill, he no longer stands for redemption. He doesn't believe he is the person who can dictate who lives and who dies, because if he does then who's going to stop him from killing simple thiefs.
No. Because of insanity. Joker cons people into thinking he doesn't premeditate. Is why he always pays his taxes on time. Insanity plea doesn't work on tax evasion.
Considering the amount of times he brought Joker to either Arkham or the GCPD he was technically arrested. The fact that he did not get the death penalty after so many crimes shows how fucked up the legal system is
Joker never gets the Death Sentence because State Law in that universe mandates that he be considered insane and insanity laws in that state are so lax that Joker can never be given the death penalty, leading to him always breaking out and killing more people. The system can’t give the people justice. Only Batman can. But he refuses to do it or to let anyone else do it (he openly tries stopping others from killing Joker) because he has the idiotic notion that killing one remorseless murderer will somehow set him loose on every petty thief in Gotham. Batman either needs to get past his childhood trauma or stop being a hero, because he’s just goading the Joker on. The Joker has openly admitted that he wouldn’t be doing half of what he does if it wasn’t so fun getting Batman to come and stop him.
Batman is justice to the citizens of Gotham but to the criminal world he is truly vengeance. He lurks in the shadows while they aren't looking and makes them pay for what they have done and there is nothing they can do. That doesn't mean that Jason isn't vengeance either but I think retribution is a more fitting word for Jason.
@@gaspenpayne6755 no batman doesnt kill joker but he will likely to see joker die if its the law. Batman kills joker in one comic (dont remember the name) then goes to jail by himself..cause thats the law
@@mr.lunatic3157 that was an illusion in the injustice universe. Long story short Joker got caught and stopped before the bomb detonated and Superman killed Louis, and when on the way to Arkhram, he snaps the Jokers neck.
Batman sees the abyss all the time and has to deal with it in the back of his head 24/7/365. Jason came back with vengeance and barely needed anything to justify his killings.
@@hernanmanalo9906 which other dark hero? Batman lost his parents at an extremely young age, had to grow up with a single friend who tried to kill him because of jealousy, had to run one of the biggest companies in the entire world by himself, was known as a weak person that had his life handed to him meaning he had no sympathy from literally anyone besides the robins who were more like children to him (and even then, Jason is perpetually pissed at bruce and Damien really wants to kill bruce), he had to raise other orphans while he was still fighting crime, was constantly worried about losing his robins and he had to deal with the horrible guilt of jason's death which he entirely blamed himself for, barbara got shot in the spine by the joker which bruce also blamed himself for, he had the whole city hate and fear him because he is less of a hero and more of a vigilante, he is also not willing to kill people meaning he is constantly trying to save the people attempting to murder him. Also his best friend goes evil every second comic which means that he is constantly fighting his best bud and Gordon tends to turn on Batman a lot. The only people he truly has is Alfred, Dick and Tim. And Tim has died in a few comics or sometimes doesn't even exist in the first place.
@ItsSquark I stop reading after you said he has to manage his own company which is funny considering he didn't deserve that money yes his parent are billionaires but Bruce never did anything for his company heck after coming back from his training he just take the company with no effort unlike Tony stark who invent weapon for the company and there's alot of dark hero whose back story are sadder that him like ghost rider were he got trick by a devil because he want to save his dad.bruce banner where his dad keep on experimenting his body and the government keep targeting him and the hulk who always destroy everything he can't even commit suicide because the hulk won't allow it and many heroes whose not rich and have to actually work for a living like spiderman while still being a hero.
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No he ain't he is a dick grayson copy and if he didn't get voted to die he was just another random robin.
Jason Todd was not the best robin fact. The best robb was dick period
What a joke. Many fans hates jason being robin.
Ooo... Jason amd the Lauging Gas.. from the heart..
Not Laughing Batman..
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"I forgive you for not saving me" that hit.
Facts
Yeah
Because he knew from the get-go that Bruce did everything he could to save him. He never doubted that.
If he killed joker years ago, Jason original would not have died
It comes to the point where we must leave batman behind, as his morals have a limit to where it may hold us back from the REAL world we actually face! A man must never allow someone else to hurt the ones he does/doesnt know!
"You'll be as quiet as possible or I'll put one in your lap first." Jensen Ackles delivered this so well. I can honestly see Dean saying this too.
It’s so subtle, I didn’t catch his meaning initially.
Is this really Jensen Ackles? We should give him another role at Jason tbh
@@Zyuusouken if you've watched Supernatural and you know Dean's voice and how his character is, that quote that I said in my comment is how I knew.
@@Zyuusouken ..Watch the Long Halloween cartoon. Parts 1&2. He voices Batman. Good movie.
Thats why soldier boy is so good.
Damn, Jensen Ackles is the perfect voice for Jason. He could even play him if he was younger.
Fun fact... he's the new Batman for the 'Tomorrow-verse'
Jensen ackles? Soldier boy?
DEAN WINCHESTER??????
After hearing this, having seen Supernatural, and The Boys, i really hope he gets a lot more mainstream work. He's such a good actor, voice and live action.
@@SaltyGinger23 damn I didn't know that
This was delivered SO well. Props to the VA playing Jason. That last line “I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic piece of evil death worshipping garbage!” Had so much emotion behind it it felt real.
Well bro I don't know if you know this or not, but it is true that it is a story. Hits deep bro.
That's Jensen Ackles. He is also the actor of Dean in Supernatural and Soldier Boy in The Boys.
@@pureityXXX oh wow i hear it now
The VA’s name is Dean Winchester. He has the coolest car and the coolest job: hunting monsters.
jensen ackles is peak
you can feel from his voice acting that Jensen Ackles really loves Batman
Yessss DEAN!!!
I literally had to watch it again just to hear Jensen omg now I love this show more
I was like “this guy sounds hella familiar” it’s DEAN WINCHESTER!
It's so amazing
whatttttt I knew that was a familiar voice
Batman letting 14 million people die instead of killing a crackhead psychopathic clown:
I mean DC makes a lot of money from joker so he can't do anything
also batman I AM VENGEANCE I AM THE NIGHT I AM BATMAN
everyone else who's sick of Bruce's bullshit 😒yeah sure whatever
like seriously joker is just a normal guy what's stopping either green lantern superman or someone else who can fly and survive space from just flying into Gotham knocking out joker and throwing him into the sun
@@shadowslayer2929DC and money
“I thought I’d be the last person you let him hurt” 🤕🤕
He literally don't want anyone to get hurt by Joker anymore❤
@@jasonvince2435then kill him?
@@templarforever5491all that would do is create the cycle again , awnsering violence with violence isn’t the Awnser
@@Starkman1992ok but if that guy keeps doing what he is doing then what is the answer?
@@Starkman1992that is not necessarily true
“killing a murderer won’t change the amount of murderers, but it will change the amount of people who died because of them.”
"Then kill 2." - Raiden from a meme.
That makes zero sense because either way the joker is still going to kill many thousands, his death is more than justified by his intent to kill again
@@acasualphysicist something tells me you don’t have any reading comprehension
@@acasualphysicistthat is what is being said, if Batman had killed him yes the number of murderers in the world wouldn’t change but the amount of people murdered would. He’d be saving tons by killing the joker.
@@Noddy-Gaming I think it’s interpretable either way, the fact that you kill a murderer because of that fact does change the number of people that died because of them; in this case that number increases by 1 when they die. Although I do agree with you now I think that was the intended idea which in hindsight makes my comment unnecessary
Jason: Why didn't you kill the Joker?
Batman: Because DC makes a lot of money with him... I mean, because I don't want to become what I hate...
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Batman: I wanted to but he was made an Ambassador to Iran and then he faked his death after trying to kill the EU but failed thanks to Superman intervening.
THANK YOU! The only reason Bats haven't iced that clown is cause DC forces him to not and let him take the blame even though there is multiple times he is shown to desperately want to and has actually tried to but got retconned.
@@liamfitzgerald7217 terrorist
@@shadowofdakness gotta love elseworld, and one off multiverse stories.
There is nothing batman could possibly say to justify jokers actions
He’s never once tried to “justify” Jokers actions. He just truly doesn’t believe that he or anyone deserves the power to say who lives or dies and Batman knows himself if he were to kill Joker it’d be easy to kill again and again until he can’t help it. That or he’ll become even worst than the Joker. Take the Batman Who Laughs.
Edit: Since you all think you’re so smart, I wasn’t trying to justify Batman’s actions either. I was literally stating the canon reasons given to us by DC and using that to prove the original point of “Batman doesn’t justify joker killing millions of people”
Ya but instead of putting him somewhere else more secure he puts him in the same place he keeps escaping again and again and again
@@ronniecarter9732 u forgot nowhere in there world is safe or secure enough to stop any metahuman or above . Arkham is supposed to be their most secure prison and even ramps up security every time. It’s just the way of their world, no death sentence for joker ever only “rehabilitation “ that’s gets u a hot loving ride or die disposable girlfriend.
@@keythekidd bro what? I think batman born for justice not the justice in the law the Real justice. Of course not every criminal deserve the death but the Joker is the exception. It's call a necessary evil. The batman who laughs become in what he is by breathing a stupid gas. Your argument is not valid
Is not about joker
Batman do everything for the mission the only thing he doesn't is killing
If he break that he is going to be the judge and executioner like a anti hero
You got to agree with Jason on this one, some criminals do not deserve to stay alive
And who guarantees the right to life? Killing a criminal like the Joker can be a dangerous trap, it turns out, one mass murderer dies and another is potentially born.
Exactly. Jason Todd and Marvel's Venom are two of my favorite heroes because they know some people aren't redeemable, unlike others.
And batman keeps saying its not that simple IT IS
What if that criminal stole money to put food in the table for his family
@@Mj32216That's the difference between petty theft and flat-out murdering people just to cause chaos
The fact that he was brought back with the Lazarus pit and still had humanity showes the integrity of his character
True and sad at the same time 😢
Did not actually follow the story huh?
@@OhNoTheFace well he though he had anger issues he still held onto his humanity
@@OhNoTheFaceI get it though....Jason has a darkness that most of the Batfam doesn't even Bruce but the thing is...the was brought back with the Lazarus pit...he would a whole lot worse considering the after effects of the pit but he still fights for justice even though as an antihero
Once you hear Jason Ackles voice you never can unhear it. Still the best voice actor for this character to date.
*Jensen Ackles
And I agree
One of
You might just say it has a supernatural quality to it
@@black-redpill3 😎
Dude seriously it sounds so dean
“I thought I’d be the last person you’d ever let him hurt”
Honestly that line gave me chills
Edit:Honestly I never thought I’d get this many likes
Batman don't kill for his own parents, so why does he going to kill for anyone else?
@@justanotheruser7885 Batman actually originally intended on killing his parents’ murderer
@@justanotheruser7885 Not kill for someone else, but kill for the sake of everyone else. Joker has and still could potentially mass murder countless people, the severity is different from a street robber who reluctantly murdered because of resistance from the victim while the other just wants to see the world burn
@@feelcollins4358 Yeah, if you didn't know Batman does NOT kill.
@@Renaissance464 The point is he should in this case. Plus stubbornly refusing to kill 1 person who totally deserves it because he fears he might get addicted to it just tells us that he's mentally weak when Batman is considered one of the strongest mentally in the entire DC universe
It is also selfish, he's the kind of guy that would most likely not kill a villain holding a remote to detonate a bomb to an entire city while choosing to disarm him instead except in this case it would be too late if he chooses the latter yet he'd still do it either way
Joker really wins in this situation. Batman can't kill the Joker due to his moral compass. Jason is hurt and pissed off at Batman for not avenging his death. Joker gets to keep pushing Batman's buttons until he breaks and Jason's tragedy is salt and lemon juice in the VERY open wound.
At this point it looks like batman was using his "moral code" as an excuse to keep to a promise he made long ago. Im all for keeping true to your promises but sometimes these things need to be revisited cause they're more detrimental than they are helpful. What started out as noble, became questionable... every single time joker escapes a few more people die... death row still exists in some places for a reason there are entities in society that refuse or cannot integrate back into it.
Morally speaking, ending the existence of a single life after all the lives that one has taken and knowing given the chance he’d commit genocide for a giggle on a rainy day,…. My moral compass wouldn’t even tick. Situational awareness would insist you remove him from any future possibilities.
It’s not about promises or morals or being a hero, it’s about fear of his own demons and weaknesses.
Also batman finally let joker died by chosen save jason at the end, but..... Will joker finally died by that explosive? Highly doubt joker can survived by fall at chopper explosive and next event he still return as same person not another gas infection joker
It's all wargames, victim is inexistent. Murder is irrelevant. Children dying is unimportant. All that matters is noone messing with my secret gae crush
-orphan in a black full body latex
Jason also never saw Batman’s believes in redemption
"I thought that I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt" you can hear the hurt in his words when he said that
Batman: “I don’t kill”
*proceeds to indirectly kill thousands*
Blame the justice system. Killing someone out of rage is never good, and that's what it would be with batman. That's his point in the movie. It'd be too easy because it's what he wants. He hates joker and wants nothing more than to choke the life out of him for everything he's done, but he can't do it without going into the darkest part of his mind.
@@KhairoAetosSo what I'm hearing is that Batman has no self control
@sans the skeleton if he didn't he would've already killed joker. You make an excuse for one, you can make excuses for more and more.
@precisemerc The only excuse he needs is the fact that the Joker has proven that he cannot be contained and will continue to kill unless he is killed. You don't get that with regular street thugs.
@sans the skeleton again, blame the justice system. Batman isn't judge, jury, and executioner. He's no more or less responsible than the people who don't give joker the death penalty. He catches him, joker escapes, batman gets him again. The right way. Every time because that's what good men do.
bro he's not a failure he's the realist Robin there is
Fr man
He’s not a failure. But Batman letting joker get him is Batman’s greatest failure.
He’s great but Dick Grayson is a better Robin
@@nicholassanchez9171dick: the perfect robin
Jason: Batman if he killed
Tim: the stealthy robin
Damien: Assassin robin
The title isn't calling Jason a failure, it's saying that Batman failed him
This is Peak DC right here boys. If only they would make the live actions with this much grace and passion.
its long gone now my friend
dark night?
@@1st_President 16 years ago...
@@jlmurph2that’s absurd
@@jlmurph2 no shot are you serious
Felt the pain when he said "You know i thought... i thought I'd be the last person you would ever let him hurt"
Growing up is realizing Jason was completely right and justified in being pissed at Batman for never killing joker
Exactly he had the right to be mad at Batman, but also even if Batman had killed joker Batman would have become the new joker and the cycle would continue so growing up is going and watching the show to see the main context of this because while in persuit to kill joker he ends up destroying a bridge and ending many lives it’s a lose lose situation that the criminal justice system should fix ending the lives of public threats should not be Batman’s job it should be dealt with by the court
bro, batman has no killing rule
@@Dr_popo_ and Batman didn't want to be like is killers
@@Dr_popo_ Batman wouldn’t become the new joker, there are stories where joker dies or is killed by Batman and Batman doesn’t become joker at all. Joker is a major part of Batman’s story, but there are bigger things than him. Also, to say it’s the courts job to judge the criminals and not Batman’s is kinda ridiculous bc the guy literally dresses up as a bat and beats up criminals and that’s not his job that’s the police’s job yet he still does it.
@@scoobsshrooms109 No, he wouldn't 'become the joker'. But he'd lose his sanity and would be filling graveyards with even jaywalkers because 'just in case'.
“You and that giggling psycho deserve each other.”
- Frank Castle, The Punisher
Punisher is best❤
He was 100 percent right too
Punisher is a glorified murderer that belongs in Blackgate.
A Batman/punisher crossover sounds fire. I need to look up where that’s from.
@@mango_sheikh786 it does exists in comics
He didn’t even TRY to kill him. I just re-read Batman Hush and he only decided to try to kill the Joker when he thought Tommy Elliot died, Jim had to talk him out of it. He cared more for a dude that wanted his parents to die than a child he took in and treated like a son.
Yeah in the movie in hush he though that the joker killed Tommy Elliot and tried to killer joker , but this movie makes me feel he doesn’t care for someone who sees him as a farther , like he cares more of a friend he barely saw than the kid who he’s been with him since he was a young child
@@moviemayhem93 Yup.
@@moviemayhem93 not the same story you need to take account many authors vision and many story they are not all related
Their different universes tho
I don’t remember what series or issue it was, but during the time between Jason’s death and Tim taking over the mantle of Robin, there was a moment where Batman was ambushed by Joker and Scarecrow. Scarecrow hits Batman with his fear toxins, reminding Bruce of Jason’s death. After that, he immediately tries to strangle Joker. Batman absolutely wanted to kill Joker, and he even said so in this movie. Batman also said after, “But if I go down that path, I’ll never come back.” What I always interpreted this line was Bruce saying that he knows he’s not mentally capable of handling killing someone. That afterwards, he’ll never stop killing.
"Why on earth is he still alive" That hits hard
"If he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this evil pile of death worshipping garbage"
One of the best lines I've heard from an animated movie
Nah it sounds like something a cringe teenager would say, "pathetic pile of evil death worshipping garbage" doesn't flow and is way too long.
he right though
And he did
And if it were the other way around batman would have carried on as he were,carrying on his little feud with the joker
"...and sent him off to Hell!"
Jason’s one of the only DC characters/hero’s who can kill people without turning into a world ending lunatic.
But Jason also never saw his parents murdered in front of him either. If Batman kills the Joker , then he will become him as well
red hood?
@@wc3362 which is bullshit btw. Hes an objective bad thats killed thousands upon thousands and injured god knows how many. Batmans a monster for letting him live. Not for killing him.
@@Linkophere yeah exactly - that cartoon where batman dies / snaps joker neck i forgot the name, says it well
every life joker ever takes after escaping, while planning, and so on, is all because batman choose to let him live
he could have saved thousands, yet his reluctance to kill made so many people die
by not killing he was a monster, he knowingly let someone who would invariably escape & kill free, just to follow a code?
i know batman is also a bit crazy, but i dont think killing those that truly have no hope as joker would've turned batman evil
@@brunobruno-c1d The Batman Who Laughs huh, yeah yeah pretty fucked up timeline. But damn, Joker don't have to be killed by batman in the first place. He doesn't even belong in Arkham, just send him onto an electric chair already. Yeah sure he is a psychopath and definitely antisocial. But no, he ain't really got mental illness which in this case "don't know what he was doing" since hell he sure does, he sure know he was doing crimes and enjoyed it. Nah, that ain't a case of mental illness preventing him from getting a death sentence. You see this kind of scum all over those severe prison. Hell, if Joker don't get a death sentence, Peter Kurten or John Wayne Gacy Jr. should get the same treatment am I right?
Writing is beautiful, and voice actors CRUSHED their roles
"A rabid dog is better put down rather than letting it live, doing more harm than good". I side with Red Hood here.
A Single Bullet Can Solved A Lots Of Problems
- Vinnie (From Sift Heads Series)
@@mikejefferson779nostalgia
@@soverxigniv8850
Well Some Flash Games Are Too Fun To Playing Soo Many Times
Yeah, but nobody wants to be the one to shoot the dog.
@@cameronhodgetts920 Exactly.
“Thought I’d be the last person you let him(Joker)hurt..”
That one hits hard😞✊🏽
thanks for pointing out he meant joker there. i didn't quite fucking understand who he(Jason) meant there
@@tbgtabias I thought the same thing 💀
@@UuSeR710 people are hilarious
@@tbgtabiasNah this response was my(Hanzo) exact thought 😂😂
@@destinedhero1726 this added to the laughs thanks for that (the joke you (Hanzo) made).
Considering that Joker has probably taken many children's parents away from them, Bruce must realize he's not keeping his promise to his.
Holy fuck,Batman I never thought of it that way!
His promise also was not to take a life
Truly felt where Jason was coming from. Man, that’s some great writing!
"I thought I'd be the last person you let him hurt..." genuine makes me want to cry my eyes out
Yeah, that line really makes his argument so emotionally compelling.
"I'd rather bury my enemy than my comrades"
The proper more righteous version would be “i would rather bury strangers over my own people”. In wars your ‘enemies’ are just people with same circumstances as you but in a different country or group. the so called enemy was set by your government or theirs.
@@killuazoldyck169 Common Killua W
@@killuazoldyck169 damn. Facts
I would rather bury the snakes, then the sheep.
@@stormzy-_-4238 is there any particular reason why you would bury snakes before sheeps?
“Why on gods earth, is he still alive!”
“Because he’s the main villain, duh.”
Lol
He doesn't know that tho
@@Blank.......... r/ woosh
@@aiden4549 ?
Injustice Superman’s calling. He says he doesn’t care.
Voice actor definitely deserved that batman role. Rip Kevin Conroy
Let's not overlook the fact that Todd caught the Joker straight up. That's legit!!
Look, 600 likes and congrats cuz i just liked, now it's 600. I hate to be that person but 600 likes and no comments? Let me fix that.
@@jstOndres appreciate u my man. 😃
my dumbass thought you said "That's illegal!!" lmao
Jason did exactly what he said he would too in the alternate ending, he did nothing but look for the joker and when he found him he put a knife in his eye
literally hunted him down out of costume too
Batman death in the family is what that movie is called
But didn't he start enjoying killing or brutally beating up villains after that? Especially after being arrested?
dude became deranged after he killed the joker.
@@Zack_Zander He let himself get arrested on the scene and spend rest of his days beating the living crap out of prisoners in prison as "Jail bird".
What grabs me is that beautiful melody that young ghost is singing
Essentially he's asking " you didn't save me, but you continually save HIM" and it's true, cause Batman knows the only thing stopping him from becoming like the Joker, is not killing. But it also makes him complacent and an accessory to all Jokers murders
It doesn’t. He’s bringing him to justice. It’s those who keep letting him out who are at fault.
Why is killing wrong? He has killed too so that's the ultimate justice if someone did bad thing we do the same with him even a child would realize that
So batman should kill the joker then himself. Solved.
Batman and the Joker are much further apart than Batman simply not being willing to kill.
@@abdallaazzam907he's not judge, jury, and executioner
I love how they explain what would become of batman if he did kill the joker. Joker would look like a child's party clown with bad yelp reviews if batman went mad. .
I’m not sure what u mean? Are u saying Batman wouldn’t stop killing? Like he’d become a worse killer than Joker?
@@themaskedman757 that's exactly what they are saying. Think about if Batman became addicted to killing, how easy it would be to kill on mass.
Batman who laughs would y'all rather have thousands or billions?
batman being worse than joker when he starts killing is just some bs they pulled to stop people on shiting on batman for not killing. and its still not a reasonable excuse even now.
his father did a good job as batman killing and jason did it even more brilliantly! punisher is awesome too! the entire thing is just a bs excuse
BS..so he have enough willpower to do not kill him (or anybody) no matter what but he do not have enough to STOP after killing once? Compared to Joker the rest of the bad boys is next to nothing.....
After a certain point the "no kill" rule loses its meaning and becomes nothing more than cowardice.
Which is exactly what it is for batman. He doesnt avoid killing because its against his morals, he does it because he's terrified of what he'd do next. Because at his core, the dude's an unstable maniac and he knows it.
No rational person inducts young orphan kids into fighting serial killers, arms dealers, and rapists. Thats what crazy people do.
Batman cannot kill Joker really. He will be the very thing Joker wanted him to be.
At the expense 14million lives the cost is too great. He really lost this one. There was an alternate ending where he kills joker so maybe in this multiverse the 14million live were fated to die.
You know there’s a version of Batman in the comics that killed to the point he enjoyed it, it was so bad that it freaked Jason out.
@@FordoAtonal Sure but we are not talking about ramdom mooks or even normal criminals but the Joker who prison only holds him until he gets bored
@@FordoAtonalhe could at least NOT stop Jason and let him kill the joker or not go out of his way to save the joker
God I wish they still made animations like this with the amazing voice acting
"I thought I'd be the last person you'd ever let him hurt"
Holy shit, that hit different
WHAT MOVIE IS THIS
@@alanstrigo865 Batman Under The Red Hood
Almost every city in the DC Universe carries out laws death sentences. Gotham is the only city that lets extremely dangerous sinners keep on taking more innocent lives. No wonder people leave Gotham due to its corrupt criminal justice system.
"Death worshiping gargbage" is such a better line than "shit." Give the writer a reward.
No just cause he came up with a better way of saying shit doesn't mean he needs an award, no one with a single braincell doesn't know that
And that's one of the reasons I don't use curse words, regular words are much more powerful when used right.
@@d1relock.0 theres a difference between award and reward
@@SurgeProtector1236 I meant reward
I admire batman for everything other than his moral sense of justice
the real reason he doesn't kill is because he will turn evil
Robot Chicken batman did it best honestly.
The last line from Jason hits everytime, cause we all have that someone if not someone’s we’d all do that for
For Batman, keeping his hands clean is more important than saving hundreds of lives.
Pretty epically selfish if you ask me.
He doesn't kill because it leads heroes closer to becoming the villian. Thinking they know better when it comes to life and death. Mix that with power and you have a tyrant. Batman knows that crossing that line will also make him a villian. So he kills the Joker, and inevitably becomes something like the Joker. It doesn't solve the issue.
Like in Injustice, when Superman finally kills the Joker. He ends up becoming a terrible tyrant.
@@ThatGuyNebula that’s only true if the writers deem it so. You could easily write a hero who killed a horrible person like joker and not turn into a tyrant. There is literally nothing you can do to stop joker besides killing him. What’s worse? Letting a murderous psychopath live knowing he will always escape from prison easily and murder millions, or kill him and spare those millions?
@@Keopholora Unfortunately, it is true because the writers did deem it that way. And because conceptually, it makes sense.
This already happened when Superman killed the Joker. He ended up replacing the Joker and killed a ton of people, turned on his friends, etc. So the question really is: Do I kill the Joker and end up replacing him except this time there is no Batmam to stop him, or continue being Batman? The point is, we should not be the ones who decide life or death; tyrants do that. Batman is a detective first and foremost, so obviously he's going to follow as much of the law insofar as it doesn't hinder his investigation
He killed him in "Batman who laughs"...
Spoiler: it was even worst
"You would rather fight your own friends than the real problem"
Damian was lowkey right too. Joker killed 10,000,000 citizens along with Batman’s friends wife and unborn child. Mind you Joker has been killing before this. Batman’s no kill policy is just stupid. He would actually go to war with superman instead of just ending the joker. In fact had he dealt with the joker earlier the injustice timeline would’ve been way different.
Oga your talking about injustice universe where joker gets help to acquire a nuke and fear toxin and kryptonite to trick superman to kill his wife and unborn baby which nuked metropolis (many different universes for batman and only very few he goes crazy killing joker very very very few with contrived bullshite but tons many more where he be fine if did kill joker)
@@THEONLYOBA damian has no say, he was an assasin and okay with it okay with taking lives left and right, he was always a disgrace to the bat family and will always be remembered as the accident bruce never wanted
@@kelpyg9804 but we still need to take in the fact of what Damian said was true. Joker needed to die along time ago. All these issues would’ve been avoided had Batman killed joker
@@THEONLYOBA then Batman would’ve been fine with killing many. he knows if he lets one slip, he’ll never return.
Jason was spittin straight facts
But the death sentence never existed in the DC 😢
@@neilraymondtia2401that’s what makes it a cringy children’s show. If he gave up his idealistic morals to put an end to people’s suffering and then had to go through the trauma to recover, that would’ve been a worthwhile show to watch
@@Jdog-tt8qeanime pfp throwing the word cringey around very fuckin willy nilly.
Such a difficult road. Batman knows why he cant kill, even someone like joker, but no one else fully understands. Everytime batman has gotten powers or killed someone he's tweaked out and destroyed planets or even multi verses
In the case of a mass murderer on the level of the Joker, his no killing rule is selfish at best. He’s basically saying that his code is more valuable to him than the lives of the innumerable victims the Joker has killed.
Fr, but you gotta think, without joker theres no batman, without batman, theres no plot. But i agree with your point.
He’s following the categorical imperative! Fucking utilitarians…
Totally true
It’s actually not selfish, we are at one point showed a timeline where he did kill the Joker after Jason’s death and let’s just say Batman was better off not killing him. In fact the whole DC universe is. It appears it’s either Batman crosses the line and becomes a murderous psychopath himself or Joker stays alive. Which do you prefer?
@@UncleRuckus-v1heasy fix you kill the joker retire the Batman mantle and become someone the criminals fear even more than Batman
“It’s not about vengeance…it’s about justice”
Justice is blind NOT HEARTLESS
his justice does a better job at keeping villains alive than keeping victims alive
Justice is just us
This is why I prefer Batman in series where Bruce is the lead. Far too often the world around Batman is too grim and it's Bruce and the Bat family that see the good in it and want to protect it. You don't get the Bruce moments when he's standing next to the Boy Scout or is being told off for decisions he made as Batman acting like it's a competition of who's more emotionally f#cked up.
Green Arrow enters the chat: Joker you have failed this city lol
In the same movie Batman also scolds Jason for shattering a guys collar bone in defence while the guy was unloading an smg on Jason. As if Batman hasn’t kicked people down flights of stairs possibly crippling or killing them
Difference is Batman didn't want Jason to be extremely violent especially at a young age and Jason had other ways of subduing the assailant
@@cheeseburger5325 as if Batman hasn’t shattered bones or delivered the same kind of kicks 😭 Batman’s hypocritical is what he is
@@Chromemecha It's not about that he doesn't want Jason's life to revolve around extreme violence like his
@@cheeseburger5325 Batman himself is violent, it would mean more coming from someone who doesn’t beat the living shit outta people. I don’t need the series explained to me I just like making jokes
Batman’s absolutely wrong for not killing the joker.. but just pointing out that the smg scene, Batman was mad bc the guy couldn’t talk and give them a lead anymore
Years later and I still get chills watching this
Jensen Ackles was amazing in voicing this fr
He's awesome
Hes Batman right
@@BklynSpider42toohe was voicing jason todd
Check out his cosplay after he voiced Jason Todd. He is Red Hood
@@IMLLAMALIFE how'd you find me
When Jason realized and accepted his fate in the warehouse, hit harder than my divorce.
That’s depressing 😰
It's still hard to see this man. I remember when I was a child watching this. It really affected me.
Is it the red hood movie?
I don’t understand when they say “if you kill the villain you’re just as bad as they are”. Because when you get to the extent of things that joker has done I dont think a single person wouldn’t be happy he was killed.
And the thing is, he WOULDN'T be as bad as them. Because it's 1 murder in comparison to hundreds.
Look at injustice, Superman took 1 life, look what happened. Batman is crazier than the joker. One bad day made him the batman. Imagine if he had another.
@@a_person_is_on_this_account I would be absolutely sh**ing myself if Batman snapped.
@@Kiwi_King-of-the-FruitsIt wouldn’t stop with 1, he would kill them all if he started..
To be fair it’s not Batman or any heroes job to really kill a villain until court. Like this whole thing is pinpointing Batman to be oblivious when it’s not his judge to execute any villain. It’s the justice systems job to do the execution.
Jason Todd was taught by Batman how not to be like Batman.
And he learned pretty well.
This is where Batman becomes more of a villain, he allowed the deaths. This just makes me like Jasons Robin. Hes a real hero.
Yeah. He cares so much about all the people he tries to protect from people like Joker.
He doesn't want to look in the mirror and know that he killed someone, Wich in this extend makes him a egoist, spiderman has a similar problem
@@HowToEatChihuahua One thing is spiderman is much better at saving civilians, which isnt batmans fault but true. At the least batman could have the blood of evil on his hands than the blood of innocents.
@@HowToEatChihuahuaThe difference is that Spiderman has shown that he is willing to kill his villains if necessary as we saw when kingpin had aunt may shot. I know he didn’t kill him but he said that if his aunt died he would come back to murder him, batman wouldn’t kill the joker even if he murdered his entire bloodline.
Voice actors are great😢
Jason Todd's story is a billion times sadder when you realize almost everyone voted to kill him.
I thought it was a close poll -- a margin of less than 80 votes
he was voted to die first or second time
I mean his character did suck at that time
@tlst94 nothing hshahahahha
Poor Jason. Doesn't realize Bruce is a severely deranged psychopath. If Bruce kills and loses his sanity, graveyards would be littered with jaywalkers.
That's only if we suspend disbelief and pretend that Batman's mental gymnastics is valid.
In this cartoon, sure.
In real life? No.
Then kill Batman and problem solved.
@@SkyLegendOfficialkilling your adoptive father is a lot harder than it sounds
Yea it’s called the Grimm knight 💀💀
Deadass 😂 bro fucks everyone up for no reason. If he was allowed to kill, he’d kill for no reason too.
Some random dude robbing a store: Batman literally beats them to the point of being a vegetable.
The Joker literally killing your entire city with a nuke: Batman slaps his wrist and tells him he's wrong.
Like really, dude.
Those two have some weird shit going on and no one can tell me otherwise
Batman wants the joker dead more than anybody else, that's why he doesn't kill him. He know that if he lets go even a little bit he will snap, because what he wants is for everyone to feel his pain from the void inside him. He forces himself to stand by set rules and his code even though he doesn't want to. He doesn't truly believe in the goodness in people and in justice, he just forces himself to believe in it.
@@JJ-ur2lf then let someone else kill him, problem solved 🤷
Someone like Red Hood here or Damian the Assassin 🤷
After putting Joker in a full body cast.
I’m not crying, you are 😢
Seriously imagine one of the enemies of your dad kills you and then you come back to life and see that your dad just lets him off with a small beating before sending them to the revolving door that is Arkham
“Thought I’d be the last one you would let him hurt” Damn😔
Voice actor for Jason has done his job convincingly. Earned every single penny.
jensen ackles (plays soldier boy in the boys amazon show), he is a big batman fan. He wants to play as a live action batman from what I've heard.
@@victorlara7637+ Dean Winchester
@@victorlara7637Dean Winchester before soldier boy
@@KirasleepswithsirensWho? Ohh the dude from the beginning moments of the critically panned drama, The Winchesters?
@@thepixel024 you tried.
Seen the movie a ton of times, this clip even more times… and my brain still tingles at this monologue
The last sentence where he said that he would do nothing but search the entire earth to hunt down Joker really tells us about how much Jason cares and loves batman and sees him as a father figure.
name of the show?
@@aodiy9994I think it's a movie. I'm pretty sure it's called Batman: under the red hood. If I'm mistaken then I'm sorry.
@@MelanieMartinezAndTTSfan thx anyway :)
Jensen ackles going hard in voice acting
Dean Winchester Son!!. He lost his birth name.
Yo he just recently voice acted Batman in the dc universe
Jason Todd is the savior Gotham really needs.
Dose that make him good ?
@@emeraldworld209 yes
@@johnnystanley8513 so if he takes another life dose that make himself a hero
@@emeraldworld209based on how deep of an evil the criminal commited. Like how killing nazis is always justified
No he isn't. Neither Batman or Jason are the heroes Gotham needs. They are the ones it deserves. Gotham needs a hero to look up to that isn't morally ambiguous like Batman stalking his victims and beating them into an inch of their life or Jason straight up gunslinging and executing petty crooks. Gotham deserves to have a protector that isn't afraid to get their hands dirty and is able to strike fear into the hearts of the wicked because Gotham's criminals deserve to be punished. But what Gotham really needs is something to believe in, a beacon of hope for the citizens, just like how metropolis has a Superman.
Honestly John Dimaggio’s joker was so good. I really enjoyed his portrayal of him in this movie
Ngl, Batman even going as far as to kill Jason instead of the Joker in the comic actually pissed me off so fucking much.
This is straight up not Batman. Batman would never consider killing anyone his code is flawed but it is still his code
@gerstein03 I know, that's what made me mad. He litteraly threw a batarang at Jason's neck once he was about to kill the joker himself in the comic.
@@divineshrek3307 same bro. That pissed me tf off to no. End. That’s why I hate batman for that. That’s your fucking family… atp Im convinced joker and Batman are gay for each other
This sounds like a speech Dean would give. A+ casting
On god.
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Batman is broken he is driven by his madness he is as mad as joker if u think about it because he enjoys the game he loves the chase it gives him purpose in someways he shows u he is just a man in some ways he shows u he is a hero this is why I love the story and the stories connected with Batman it gives u a true taste of human nature
Its Explain why he always mad if Superman help him in his battle, like in *_Superson_*
And Joker recognised that straight away. That's why he says He and Batman are the same.
Batman is no hero. He is not human either. Most people at a point would kill joker long before. Especially the things he has done to close friends and family. Even spider man who is ultimately a better person than batman, would kill if anyone ever touch his friends and family.
Although it’s a good interpretation it’s not exactly true. Batman or Bruce would LOVE to give up the cape and cowl if he knew Gotham was in good hands.
You can see this in BTAS in the episode where mad hatter gives Batman his literal “dream” where he isn’t Batman anymore and someone else is. He even says he is fine with it and finally gets to rest.
Though to be fair his parents are alive in his dream which could be a factor. Still though Bruce has his memories of being Batman and will give up it in a heartbeat if Gotham was safe.
Tbh this is some of the best voice acting ever
Ohhh god Jensen's acting is so fucking good here
I didn't realize it was Jensen until you said that, he's such a good actor I loved him on supernatural
@Politically Corrupted yeee boiii
I loved him in SPN. His voice is too distinct not to recognize for me. I just watched Under the Red Hood last night, it's a good movie.
@@ThePokemon11 if you've ever watched anime I'll tell you in fairy tell elfman I thought had a super recognizable voice and I thought his voice was like all might mixed with Zoro and I looked it up and the same guy voiced all 3 of them
@@ThePokemon11 same, watched it last night
Oh god no wonder the voice was so familiar 😭
This makes me remember what avatar yang Chen said to Aang
Yang Chen : " i know you're a gentle spirit and the monks taught you well but this isn't about you it's about the world"
Aang: " but the monks taught me to detach myself from the world"
Yang Chen:
" many did and reached enlightenment but the avatar could never do it because your sole duty is to the world
this is my wisdom for you aang, selfless duty requires you to sacrifice your own spiritual needs and do whatever it takes "
Batman has moral values he doesn't kill and i respect his devotion for it but what he's doing isn't to help the world and the innocent it's to spare his own soul from commiting murder which is something most of us would like to avoid but if you're going so far to save people but stop there it feels half assed, some people can redeem themselves giving second chances is great but sometimes it's not worth it some people are so dangerous that their possible redemption isn't worth the damage they can cause because this isn't an ideal world some good intentions can lead to catastrophic results
And so..the joker is a monster. Nota human anymore
+micow 99 This is an AMAZING crossover. At some point, pacifism becomes counter-productive.
Yep. And luckily Aang didn't listen to Chens "advice" and was loyal to his moral values and determined to find another way hence the reason he tried to find an answer to that question which eventually lead him to an ancient lion turtle that taught him how to bend the energy within humans who he never would have met if he didn't have that inner struggle when it came to killing somebody( which for sure would have stained his pure soul and probably would have changed him for worse) . There is always the easy way and the right way. But when we talk about joker, batmans unconcern is just dumb and wrong on so many levels, after the 2nd or 3rd escape you should understand that an average asylum is just not enough to imprison this mf for long and good
Man in some universe Aang maybe didn’t get to meet the lion turtle since he was the very last one I wonder how the story went there
Alfred once said “some men just wanna watch the world burn”
The fact that there’re laws irl that allowed to kill criminal, that’s nowhere near as dangerous as the Joker, just shows how stupid Batman’s moral code is.
I love batman he's one of my favourite characters in all of fiction, but yeah, I have to agree with you.
Its not a lawful code its a MORAL code. You don't understand Batman. He doesn't kill because he truly believes in redemption because he redeemed himself. If he does kill, he no longer stands for redemption. He doesn't believe he is the person who can dictate who lives and who dies, because if he does then who's going to stop him from killing simple thiefs.
Thats his job? And btw the comment said "Moral" not lawful@@ascarmen42
@@ascarmen42They said moral lol
@ascarmen42 Batman has bad judges of character then if he looks at Joker and somehow still considers redemption.
Damn Jensen Ackles has been absolutely killing the game lately
this isn’t lately this move is over a decade old
Watching shorts years later and I just realized it was Jensen Ackles lol
@Jack Moua you should check jensen out dressed like Jason todd. He looks amazing.
@Amanda Aument or Jensen Ackles in Smallville season 4 as Jason Teague which is Smallvilles version of Jason Todd
@@nwwink I’m mostly talking about his recent role as Soldier Boy in general
Man, this story was sad even in the games.
"If I killed him, I wont be able to stop 🤓"
Batman, just arrest him and he'll get the death sentence, the police will handle him 💀
No. Because of insanity. Joker cons people into thinking he doesn't premeditate. Is why he always pays his taxes on time. Insanity plea doesn't work on tax evasion.
I'd say that's the best treatment for psychotic clowns like him after all he's still human after all
Considering the amount of times he brought Joker to either Arkham or the GCPD he was technically arrested. The fact that he did not get the death penalty after so many crimes shows how fucked up the legal system is
@@shawnngnosse2070 exactly
Joker never gets the Death Sentence because State Law in that universe mandates that he be considered insane and insanity laws in that state are so lax that Joker can never be given the death penalty, leading to him always breaking out and killing more people.
The system can’t give the people justice. Only Batman can. But he refuses to do it or to let anyone else do it (he openly tries stopping others from killing Joker) because he has the idiotic notion that killing one remorseless murderer will somehow set him loose on every petty thief in Gotham.
Batman either needs to get past his childhood trauma or stop being a hero, because he’s just goading the Joker on. The Joker has openly admitted that he wouldn’t be doing half of what he does if it wasn’t so fun getting Batman to come and stop him.
The voice actor for jason here is brilliant.
ever seen Supernatural, or The Boys?
Jason Todd's VA is Jensen Ackles. Can recognize that voice anywhere. Such a great actor.
oh sht soldier boy
Im genuinely surprised, sounds nothimg like the usual him. He has a pretty deep voice
@@nappa1413 It sounded just like Dean when Dean is pissed off a Sam.
Those words hurt😢
Jason is one hundred percent right. Think of how many people are dead because batman and the authorities kept trying to "rehabilitate" him
What I like about this interaction is he isn’t mad for Bruce not saving him he’s mad that Bruce let it continue to happen over and over
Joker really woke up in the closet like, “Oh boy, my favorite show!”
This scene is so real. Right to the heart
Batman says" I am vengeance! I am the night!", but in reality, Jason Todd is vengeance.
Batman is justice to the citizens of Gotham but to the criminal world he is truly vengeance. He lurks in the shadows while they aren't looking and makes them pay for what they have done and there is nothing they can do. That doesn't mean that Jason isn't vengeance either but I think retribution is a more fitting word for Jason.
@@itssquark they mean pretty much the same thing. And Batman is not truly vengeance. Justice? Sure. But vengeance? Nah, bruh.
Batman has proven time and time again he cares more about the Joker than anyone else......he was the one that created him ...his guilt
Biggest issue is why cant the system kill a psychopathic murderer
@@mr.lunatic3157 because Batman would probably save him from execution lmao 😂
@@gaspenpayne6755 no batman doesnt kill joker but he will likely to see joker die if its the law. Batman kills joker in one comic (dont remember the name) then goes to jail by himself..cause thats the law
@@mr.lunatic3157 that was an illusion in the injustice universe. Long story short Joker got caught and stopped before the bomb detonated and Superman killed Louis, and when on the way to Arkhram, he snaps the Jokers neck.
@@UnlimitedIvory well, batman killed him in couple of other timelines/versions too
No matter how dark the night is, Batman will only ever be a warning
That's a good ass line bro
Lol I wonder if the frank castle was raised by the Wayne's would that be different?
Best animation voice performance! You can feel every word he speaks thru out the whole movie
Batman knows about the phantom zone...Batman secretly loves catching the joker and pulls the strings to keep him alive to keep the game going.
“Death worshipping garbage” damn I felt that
This pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage☠️
I love watching people admire how much people love Jason as a character.
Same
He deserves the love
This 1 scene was better than Folly A DooDoo
Jason seen the abyss far more darker than Batman did, that's why he was so pissed off and Batman couldn't even give a good reason why.
Batman sees the abyss all the time and has to deal with it in the back of his head 24/7/365. Jason came back with vengeance and barely needed anything to justify his killings.
@@itssquark alot of people have better reasons then batman, hes just weak minded
@ItsSquark batman sad back story is pretty mid compare to others like the other dark super hero
@@hernanmanalo9906 which other dark hero? Batman lost his parents at an extremely young age, had to grow up with a single friend who tried to kill him because of jealousy, had to run one of the biggest companies in the entire world by himself, was known as a weak person that had his life handed to him meaning he had no sympathy from literally anyone besides the robins who were more like children to him (and even then, Jason is perpetually pissed at bruce and Damien really wants to kill bruce), he had to raise other orphans while he was still fighting crime, was constantly worried about losing his robins and he had to deal with the horrible guilt of jason's death which he entirely blamed himself for, barbara got shot in the spine by the joker which bruce also blamed himself for, he had the whole city hate and fear him because he is less of a hero and more of a vigilante, he is also not willing to kill people meaning he is constantly trying to save the people attempting to murder him. Also his best friend goes evil every second comic which means that he is constantly fighting his best bud and Gordon tends to turn on Batman a lot. The only people he truly has is Alfred, Dick and Tim. And Tim has died in a few comics or sometimes doesn't even exist in the first place.
@ItsSquark I stop reading after you said he has to manage his own company which is funny considering he didn't deserve that money yes his parent are billionaires but Bruce never did anything for his company heck after coming back from his training he just take the company with no effort unlike Tony stark who invent weapon for the company and there's alot of dark hero whose back story are sadder that him like ghost rider were he got trick by a devil because he want to save his dad.bruce banner where his dad keep on experimenting his body and the government keep targeting him and the hulk who always destroy everything he can't even commit suicide because the hulk won't allow it and many heroes whose not rich and have to actually work for a living like spiderman while still being a hero.