Can't believe he didn't show the best part of the movie. When the kid sees the babysitter getting the business and just runs down the stairs like "oh hell nah" I was dying laughing at that part lol
@@chrispyfriedchicken9648 been a minute since I looked at the official definition but if I remember right, spree killing means no thought out in before hand where as a serial is normality defined by a very tight MO
@@alexpaul4144 oh, based on the term spree I assumed that it meant a killer out on a quick rampage as opposed to someone who killed at entirely separate events
do you have any idea how many kids go trick or treating in that town? literally thousands... so WHAT if a few kids get brutally murdered... you sound like a communist saying we need to cancel halloween. those kids are patriots protecting the freedoms we all know and love... michael meyers loose in a community has over a 99.9% survival rate
This movie wants to have it both ways. They want to treat half a dozen sequels like they don't exist, but they also want to give Michael a weight and gravitas that he wouldn't have without the events of these sequels. They are depending on the audience to know he's a big deal like when Cumbersnatch announces that he is Khan in Into Darkness. That should mean nothing to anybody in that scene except the people watching it and it pisses me off
I think you missed how nobody was even bothered by Ray's death. Like Allison didn't even ask about her father and the wife did nothing. And they just let his dead body burn in the house
Only Laurie knew Michael moved Ray's body into the closet. And she had more important things to focus on, honestly. The trailer for the next movie shows Allison upset about something so I'm guessing that's when she finds out her dad's dead.
Ray deserved to die. He was such an annoying character. The I got peanut butter on my penis line makes me cringe every time I watch it. He was a throw away character, so him dieing and nobody caring doesn't bother me one bit.
I get that thought process but at the same time I’m sure for the average person any one of these events would be enough to cause anyone to be like this version of Laurie Strode, with the mind being a very fragile thing. Also I am kinda glad they didn’t involve Halloween 2 in this because I just hated that whole subplot where of which Laurie is Michael’s sister. It made no sense in my opinion and added nothing to the plot, I think they added it as a means to explain why Michael is after Laurie, but that to me at the time I saw it and even to this day just felt needless and if anything just took away from that factor of fear from what Michael Myers is. To me it’s the less I know about certain characters that makes them more scary, not knowing why they do what they do just makes me think I’m just prey to them. So I can totally understand Laurie’s personality in this film. It would have been nice if they kept H20 as canon to the film but that I think would’ve had more problems than just pulling a full clean slate.
@@eiji862 i’m not gonna say it’s not a proper trauma response bc ppl handle things differently but survivors of actual serial killers don’t even get this intense w it. I think H20 is a more believable reaction to being haunted by a trauma like this
@@moonlily1 Actually he didn't go after her. The doctor took him towards her location and Michael just made his way to the house because he likes to kill just because. He randomly killed people when he was in the town and had no interest in going after her specifically.
@@icantdubs4u98 Alright, I'll defer to the expertise of people who are more hardcore fans than I. He targeted Laurie in the first movie, is what I mean, and she believes he will again, even though I'm given to understand that the other sequels didn't happen in this iteration. I didn't actually see this one, I didn't think another one was necessary.
Hell yeah, that music was epic hehe, I thought for sure Jeremy was gonna remove some sins for John Carpenter's score there. Shocked, he didn't mention it tbh.
Andrew Shepherd go to Hawaii, it’s 2,500 miles away from the nearest part (San Francisco) of the mainland United States. Too far for him to go by boat.
That was stupid beyond belief. You can't fake panic, much less the amount of it you would have if you were trapped in a basement and this nearly-invincible killing machine was standing at the door.
@@skar8009 This is one of the many reasons why her character was annoying af to me. The actress’s penchant for throwing lines away in this movie also had me wondering who thought it was good idea to cast her; 5:16 is one of the many examples.
4:05 I think John Carpenter once said he regretted making Michael and Laurie siblings because it made Micheal Myers less scary. Instead of going after ANYONE, he was going after his sister. People who weren't Laurie, and weren't connected to her, would be 'safe'. In Halloween (2018), this rumor would make people feel better because, again, Michael is going after his sister, not just anyone.
"I mean I get not every town has a Michael Myers, but the dark and evil place is pretty accurate and also, this town DOES ACTUALLY have a Michael Myers, so listen to your mom, maybe?" Love this :D
Best part of this movie is when the mom says “I can’t do ITT!” *sobs* then Michael appears to kill her, and she says, “Gotcha.” ICONIC! I get goosebumps everytime.
I enjoyed that. Let's not forget Laurie was terrified in the first one too, although she was a lot younger than Karen was here. And Karen was doing that, at least partly IMO, to fool Michael or lower his guard before she shot him.
charmedfan7704 I agree with you. Karen definitely did it to deceive Michael. She wanted him to underestimate her abilities and catch him by surprise. It also shows that even though she wouldn’t take her mom seriously over Michael in the past few years, she did learn a lot from her Mom over the years of preparation. Her mom prepared her and that was the kicker for Michael.
marty uribe It could definitely be real. Some people fight, some people flight. When your survivor instinct kicks in you’d do anything to survive too. She tricked Michael by playing to his desires. It was genius and worked.
I highly doubt a hospital for the criminally insane would allow a Podcaster to come in to interview their most notorious inmate , or bring in a mask that he wore during his killing spree.
I just told myself that the doctor's plan all along was to help Michael escape, so he allowed them in somehow as part of his plan. Maybe to get him riled up and determined to escape, maybe to see him interact with strangers in a controlled setting, maybe thinking that he might use them to somehow facilitate an escape directly from the hospital, idk. I kind of just wrote it off like, if the doctor wants him to escape anyway why would he be very concerned with security?
I FIND IT FUCKING TIRESOME THAT MEN CANT EVEN BE MEN ANYMORE WITHOUT IGNORANT PEOPLE CALLING THEM CREEPY.........SO CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U THOUGHT THE GUYS IN THE MOVIE WAS CREEPY
@@cutiepie6796 They give off creepy vibes. Also, you misinterpret what the post meant. This was not a broad generalization, it was just the two boys in this film.
I hate the 2 journalists that taunted Michael Myers and how they died The guy sacrificed himself to buy her time to escape but she literally just stood there patiently waiting for Michael to finish killing him so he can kill her next
@@pleaseshutup7053 Lol the guy hit Michael with a crow bar on the face and he still beat the shit out of him , you think she could have beat Michael up? Lol
"This world is filled with love and understanding": WTF is she talking about? This world is tearing itself apart because of non-understanding and other things. Holy Cow, this is not an opinion, but just objectively wrong. Wow.
That's mine, too. It makes no sense that Lori is obsessed with him. If they hadn't wiped Halloween II from existence, it would make sense. But, no, she's really just crazy in this one even if she is right.
Halloween Timeline 1: ONLY Halloween (1978) exists. Solo Timeline. Halloween Timeline 2: ONLY Halloween & Halloween 2 exist now. I’ll call it the Sister Subplot Timeline. Halloween Timeline 3: Halloween 4, 5, & Curse are apart of Halloween 1 & 2. I’d like to call this the Thorn Timeline. Halloween Timeline 4: ONLY Halloween (1978), Halloween 2, H20, & Resurrection are canon. We can call this the 20-Year Timelime. Halloween Timeline 5: H1 & H2 Rob Zombie Remakes, basically the Inferior Universe. Halloween Timeline 6: ONLY Halloween (1978) & Halloween (2018) are canon, along with Halloween Kills & Halloween Ends coming next years. The Revival Timeline.
@@spencerobrien1233 Understood. I enjoy H20 & the spin it gave to Laurie defeating Michael one & for all. But I will say my favorite timeline is actually the new Revival timeline. I loved the 2018 Halloween so damn much, & I don’t really know why, but it just felt like the actual Michael Myers from 1978, how “The Shape” was meant to be.
"Why would Michael being Laurie's brother make people feel better?" Because Michael having no connection to Laurie or the five people he murdered means that anyone could be a victim. Other people might feel safer if Michael and Laurie were related because if Laurie is his only target they wouldn't be in danger (provided they don't get in between him and his sister). The only thing scarier than someone having a motive to kill five people is someone having no motive and still killing five people.
Counter argument: Why couldn't Michael have been related to any of the other victims and Laurie simply got caught in the cross hairs? Not that you could prove it, but Michael's fixation with Laurie could have been she was the one to go to his home and drop the papers off. That this movie erases all but the first hurts it because it needs that tie in. Otherwise, why does Laurie fixate on him? From an investigatory point of view, Laurie was simply the next person on his list. He saw her. He saw that she saw him. He knew to get away, he'd need to kill her.
Michael Plowman because John Carpenter said himself that Michael had no real motive in the first movie. There wasn’t supposed to be a sequel. Loomis’ explained Michaels character: that he purely and simply evil with no conscience. He was going back to his hometown, saw Laurie first and then began stalking her and her friends. No relationships. No real motive. She just happened to be the one that got away. It’s a simple concept that doesn’t need to be over complicated
@@lucaslarson430 Except it doesn't explain Laurie's obsession with him coming back in this film. I can understand Michael's "fascination" with her in the first movie. The 2018 movie does a horrible job explaining why Laurie is convinced he's coming back.
Maybe the reason why Myers stalks Laurie in the first film, and kind of with this film, is because when he targets someone, he intends to kill them. Since Laurie escaped, he wants to finish what he started. She was the one who escaped. That could be why he has plenty of focus on her. When he sees a random teen, they die shortly thereafter and stalk them like he did Laurie. Just a theory
They basically made Laurie and her retconned daughter into a Sarah and John Conner situation but the actual fail is to follow through on this pretty much at all.
I wish they had a scene in like a graveyard where Laurie hunts Micheal and JUST about manages to hits him while he rounds a corner because remember while Micheal has the mentality of a child he does seems to be really skilled at messing with his victims heads
They turned her into this Ripley/Sarah Connor character and failed miserably. I mean this is a woman who has PTSD of a 40-year incident so she builds this booty camp in her own house and an underground bunker under the kitchen? H20 did a better attempt at portraying Laurie.
I'm more mad at the police officer shooting the stairwell after Mike boi had peaced out down stairs, guy who's literally trained in firearms and suppression can't do what he's literally paid to do
The reason micheal was able to bust his hand through the window without hitting the metal door fence is bc when the dad walked out there he left it open
I'd remove 20 sins for the way Julian nopes the f@#$ out of there, runs back upstairs, sees Vicki says nope again, runs downstairs and tells Dave "You go up there, you gonna get killed Dave." Then leaves the house. Smartest person in any horror movie ever.
Speaking of black horror characters, the dude from Get Out holds the world Heavyweight belt for smartly navigating a horror movie, any race, no question.
Thank you for pointing out the fact that this movie doesn't work if it is just a sequel of Halloween. Both laurie and michael's assumed obsessions with each other only make sense if he IS her brother and she KNOWS that. This just comes off as a crazy lady who wasted years of her life preparing for a dude who would not have even shown up on her doorstep if he wasnt already in a cop car heading that way.
I tend to agree with you. He probably held a ton of resentment inside of himself after all those years knowing she was the one that got away. She did waste her life away worry about him..
@@brandonsavitski it's funny going back seeing all these silly theories. Now we know Michael gave no shits about Laurie and Laurie was the one obsessed with him only
1:16 This. This right here. The whole thing about Michael in this movie is that he's built up to be this monstrous figure, when... all he really did was kill his sister and a couple horny teenagers in the 70's. He'd really only have this level of myth to him if you factor in the sequels, which are getting ignored since this film is meant to be a direct sequel to the original 1978 film.
I'm surprised they commited such an error. They stated nothing after the first Halloween existed but still act as if it did. Maybe it's the only way they could get a plot device to set Michael free, just have two podcasters interested in a guy who killed 5 people in total more than 4 decades ago.
A better way to do it would be for Michael Myers being released from prison on a technicality. Maybe the doctor could have used a plea of insanity, and then said that because Michael Myers had been a model inmate all these years, he deserved to be released into the care of the doctor. But then when he is being transferred to a mental hospital, something happens, and he escapes. Then Michael decides to get revenger on Laurie because she put him in prison. Or maybe during the car accident he hits his head and turns evil again.
It's because it was in a small town that never really experienced horror like Michael Myers. I feel like people are stupid and the movie suffers because of this
@@jaxsonlee10 are you commenting as someone from a small town? Because yes they do remember things like this. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in their school history class
Im surprised you didn’t sin Michael for knowing how to drive since he was initially put in a institution since he was a kid and at no point would have been taught how to drive - anyway thanks for 300 likes on a simple question anyway
@@pipoper101 true it's not that but its definitely not something mentally disabled ppl perfect on the first try. i mena seriously he drove better than ppl who have passed their test.
Huh, I worked as an extra on this film. Was one of the 'dumb teenagers doing dumb teenage sh*t'. And yes, some of those moments with the teenage characters had me scratching my head as to how they were a part of a horror movie (you don't get an idea of the bigger picture from what I was doing). But hey, I was in something CinemaSins did a video on so that's a plus I guess....or a sin? Not sure.
Rumour has it that Jamie Lee Curtis was high on Activia yogurt during the movie Edit : Woah this is the most likes I’ve ever had on RUclips. Look mom, I made it to the big leagues ! Thanks y’all
@@dcap79 okay well apparently people can only have their own opinions and everyone else is objectively wrong. I agree, the 2018 cops were entertaining and the ones in Halloween 5 were particularly obnoxious
I liked 3 scenes. When she shot at MM but it was a mirror, the “long shot” where everyone is trick or treating and he got the knife etc, When she went off the balcony mimicking the first movie but in reverse.
@@karlenmgl no. it makes no sense to how they would fight and he has no chance against a charged up jason. Movie will be 5 min long. Jason cuts his ass in half the end.
They live in a small quiet town where nothing bad happens. So they don't have to worry about things like war lords and drug cartels. Shit I live in a huge city where all kinds of bad things happen. Look up Cincinnati Ohio. It's a shit show and even I don't worry about war lords or the drug cartel. Robberies? yes, senseless murder? yes, sex trafficking? yes, child predators???? uh hell yes. That's just to name a few. However this is a small town and a fictional one at that. Where nobody has to worry about anything. Where Michael is the boogeyman under the bed.
You know I liked the vibe of this flick at first. There was something legitimately bone-chilling about just seeing huge Michael Myers' silhouette in this maximum security prison and knowing he will get out at some point. Unfortunately that foreboding flame of fear was pretty quickly snuffed out by a combination of cheesy gen-z teen humor attempting to lighten everything and Michael getting his ass kicked by an old lady at every turn. I suppose my biggest gripe is that my Halloween movie basically turned into Home Alone with Lori as the kid and Michael as the robbers.
He is not human, he spend 40 years just looking at the sky doing nothing and he is stronger than most men in theri 60s, logic was shot and thrown out of the window to a busy street!
Markus Adam yes most of the Halloween movies are really stupid. Halloween Resurrection is offensively dumb. The Rob Zombie movie are so graphicallyviolent that it becomes an un enjoyable experience
@@karlenmgl I would LITERALLY kill for a Jason vs Michael It won't be as choreographed as Jason vs Freddy but it would be a slugfest just two giants going at it
The granddaughter is going to be the focal character in the last film Halloween Ends. This movie was a character building movie so you could get to know her and have empathy for her.
I love how this movie avoided a lot of clitches where Julien didn't try to do stuff even after she said stop and Michael becomes the unlikely hero I'm happy they avoided that
“Halloween purists can call this plot twist dumb all they want. But do you know the ONLY way this scene works? HE’S HER F*CKING BROTHER AND HALLOWEEN 2 ACTUALLY F*CKING HAPPENED!” THANK YOU!👏 My feelings exactly. That scene, hell this whole movie doesn’t pack much of a punch because they took away the sibling plot line
So true. This series ignoring installments whenever it feels like it has killed fans not just spitting fanboy crap and seriousness. Also the failure to make the thorn storyline work over 3 films when it's barely in the first two of it. But even with H20 they could've went from there or Laurie's bloodless kill in Ressurection even. You can't ignore Halloween II regardless-it means too much no matter what. Least with Jason there's "supernatural strong but hardly invincible guy with messed up face since childhood" and "zombie gothic horror Jason." Fans may be divided but there's really only one world, and if you want to say, two. Not...1...2....3...I lost count on Halloween (not including the remakes). I care more about uncut and/or restored scenes to make Halloween 5 better than sequel to fake loomis, crappy sarah connor rip-off plotting, and disrespecting danielle harris jamie loyd (again!) anyday. And 5 is definitely lower tier in the halloween franchise.
Everytime Laurie did a one-liner or something"cool" I would laugh because she would get immediately attacked. I mean considering she has been training for 51 years, that's bad training
Hopefully those terrible one-liners are excised from the upcoming sequels. Laurie was kind of annoying in this movie (her running to the top of a set of stairs and yelling “Karen” comes to mind immediately as does her doing security checks in her daughter’s house), but that’s most likely due to Jamie Lee Curtis having way more input than she should have had.
Eh. I've actually been kicked in the head and you can still function pretty well after for a bit. I'm sure Laurie had a really nasty headache for a while though. And in Halloween 1 she was attacked repeatedly by Michael, stalked by him, and went around that home finding all her friends' dead bodies, while trying to protect herself and two little kids from the killer. Pretty traumatic, especially for a teenager.
love seeing all the side characters here making reappearances in Halloween Kills. the mental patient from Kills actually appears here, so do the doctor/nurse couple, and some others.
Technically, he WOULD be considered a serial killer in the first movie, since all you'd need to be a serial killer is three different INSTANCES of killing that are separate. - Murdering Judith Myers in his house - Killing that mechanic to get his clothes - The spree in Haddonfield that is 3 different instances, and as such HE would be considered that-
I mean 6 shots didn't kill this man what could fire do plus Michael is supposed to be the embodiment of evil and Not human that is why you don't even see his full face during the starting scene and bathroom scene and that there is no soul just an empty void hence he is mentioned in the end credits as "The Shape"
I said the same thing in the movie theater when I watched this. How did that wounded doctor have the ability to lift heavy ass invincible Michael Audrey Myers into the police car? Wounded or not, I don’t believe that dr could have lifted M&M at all. 🤷🏾♀️
My ex girlfriend passed out drunk on the beach one time on vacation and I attempted to carry her back to my hotel room. At the time I was super fit / ripped. She weighed anywhere from 135-170 lbs and I struggled to pick up her dead weight. No way this 60 plus year old doctor who got shot mind you could have picked Michael Myers up and put him into the vehicle.
14:00 also it is completely absurd to me that Laurie trained for this night for 40 years and didn't realize that hiding behind a door with windows on it was a horrible idea
Thank you for taking this movie down a few pegs. It was so annoying how they took what they wanted from canon to suit their story but insisted it was a direct sequel to the Original.
I don’t even get scared of the Halloween movies anymore, I just laugh because people in these types of horror movies are literally less educated than a preschooler
Yeah alot of directors seem to think shock value = super scary.. Relying primarily on jump scares (or in the case of Saw at least) gore porn.. There's loads of talented folks in the industry from make up artists to costume designers to set piece creators but it takes an incompetent director to put it all to waste smh
@@MattyyyBoiii I think this is a very important comment. And I think the answer lies in the type of people who have been able to put themselves through film school in America. It’s a type of incompetent, rich, industry personality that is destroying America’s cinematic legacy.
I cant understand why after 40 years laurie is so obsessed with Michael Meyers. Without all the other movies, her obsession with him escaping makes no sense. Survivors usually are able to let go long before 4o years pass
What about Dr. Loomis & Dr. Ranbir Sartain being obsessed with Michael Myers and making him their focal point of their lifes work? I'm sure they've had numerous patients kill people so what made him so special for them to devout their entire lifes work solely around him. Or the true crime podcasters studying him for years. Nothing Michael Myers did wasn't exactly that out of the ordinary from what other killers do that would garner so much attention.
Just my opinion if a guy killed my friends and tried to kill me I think I would be obsessed and crazy as Laurie was and I think I would fear him coming back for me at some point and in this case she was right he escaped to haunt Haddanfield again
I can't believe you missed the most insane part of the third act. Michael is supposed to have put together all those mannequins missing two fingers. When Laurie was cutting all the lights off we saw that the mannequins were in boxes not put together. There is blood on them to let the audience know he put them together but how? How did he have the time, and he did this after grabbing the husbands body and stuffing him in the closet. This movie is so stupid and so horribly edited.
@@spongeboymebob771 nitpicky? The movie doesn't make any sense!! One moment his sonic putting mannequins together, putting body in nice position or making a human pumpkin head. Then the other he walks slower than a snail, some how gets behind you and kills you. I can't believe this movie is so popular but its so bad. If you actually enjoyed this movie either you never seen one or you just dumb
@@Hello-vx2fo Dude this is not a history movie lol , not everything has to make sense , it is like getting mad at Spongebob cause they have fire under water 🤦 you must be a sad person
@@Hello-vx2fo Similar things happen in the original. Like stealing a headstone, and putting it on the bed, while also having the time to tie hang the guy in the closet.
They just want the fame. Write a book about it or something. It's not like such cases happen often, so what good does it do to "understand" one extremely specific type of insanity?
12:54 not only does he lift Michael's huge frame into the back seat, he did it with one arm as he's nursing a gunshot wound in his left arm. Movie magic.
I really hope the next two movies bring the familial connection back into continuity. The fact that they just threw it out the window for THIS movie, means this movie makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!
It makes perfect sense, at least if you watch Kills. The gist is that Michael's on a completely random path as he's always been, it's just that Laurie thinks he's after her specifically so she keeps getting in his way.
This movie should’ve been a direct sequel of the original Halloween 2 IMO, it just makes zero sense to me as to why Laurie was so persistent that Michael was still gonna try to go after her
Like some traditional journalists, some podcasters just see the story and don't see the people involved in those stories as people. Plus you have the modern horror trope that most of the victims have to have some serious flaw.
The podcasters were using the situation to their benefit. They were no doubt trying to exploit this story and make money off of it. They were professional podcasters. I'm sure that's how they make a living via their podcasts.
1:41 “I would give every sin back if they had a scene showing the podcasters opening up a 1978 Captain Kirk mask and painting it-“ The original mask was actually made from a 1975 Captain Kirk mask
“Murdilated” I cracked up how you said it. I also can’t understand how the reporter said there was no reaction when he pulled out the mask. So much chaos happened AND michael moved his head to the side in acknowledgement of it! 😂
It would have been a greater movie if Micheal never got caught. 40 years later, after terrorizing little towns all over the country, he comes back in Haddonfield. It's scarier to know he has been free for 40 years instead of "I prayed every night for him to escape".
Can't believe he didn't show the best part of the movie. When the kid sees the babysitter getting the business and just runs down the stairs like "oh hell nah" I was dying laughing at that part lol
I forgot about that part. That kid was awesome.
Does the kid manage to get away?
Kiara Animefan yes he does
He actually said, "OH SHIT!"
The kid sucked
At this point I think I’m the only person who didn’t go to the Prometheus school of running away from things :(
Ajayjenks Same 😭
Stephanie Brown well that’s someone else
You forgot Sally Hardesty
I went but I didn't graduate, couldn't run in a straight line
I wanted to go, but I couldn’t afford tuition!!!
Jus wanna say love that cinemasins knew the difference between a serial killer and a spree killer
Me too lol
Even the movie description says he's a spree killer
So if you are a spree killer, can you have multiple killing sprees or only one?
@@chrispyfriedchicken9648 been a minute since I looked at the official definition but if I remember right, spree killing means no thought out in before hand where as a serial is normality defined by a very tight MO
@@alexpaul4144 oh, based on the term spree I assumed that it meant a killer out on a quick rampage as opposed to someone who killed at entirely separate events
"what are we going to do? cancel halloween?"
me: *laughs in 2020*
I was literally about to type this same comment. Hahaha canceling holidays doesn't seem so laughable these days
We had halloween here and it was one of my best!
Getting ready for Jason Vs Michael movie
Lol
do you have any idea how many kids go trick or treating in that town? literally thousands... so WHAT if a few kids get brutally murdered... you sound like a communist saying we need to cancel halloween. those kids are patriots protecting the freedoms we all know and love... michael meyers loose in a community has over a 99.9% survival rate
This movie wants to have it both ways. They want to treat half a dozen sequels like they don't exist, but they also want to give Michael a weight and gravitas that he wouldn't have without the events of these sequels. They are depending on the audience to know he's a big deal like when Cumbersnatch announces that he is Khan in Into Darkness. That should mean nothing to anybody in that scene except the people watching it and it pisses me off
Thank You!!! hit the nail on the head!
Which is why I will never watch this movie again, or its 2 upcoming sequels. It's ridiculous
For real this shit is dumb
@rob 998 I'm the first liker of the 100th liker!!!!!
Halloween 1,2,4 are the ones I love the most 4 doesn't have the best mask but I love that movie!
I think you missed how nobody was even bothered by Ray's death. Like Allison didn't even ask about her father and the wife did nothing. And they just let his dead body burn in the house
Only Laurie knew Michael moved Ray's body into the closet. And she had more important things to focus on, honestly. The trailer for the next movie shows Allison upset about something so I'm guessing that's when she finds out her dad's dead.
I agree,I thought that it was messed up that the wife didn't seem to care. Did the daughter even ask were her father was?
@@charmingeli1302 I don't think they know he's dead yet. This next movie takes place later the same night, so I'm sure they'll find out then.
Ray deserved to die. He was such an annoying character. The I got peanut butter on my penis line makes me cringe every time I watch it. He was a throw away character, so him dieing and nobody caring doesn't bother me one bit.
They address it in Halloween Kills
Laurie's personality and preparations in this are of someone that lived through H, H2 & H20, just as Michael's actions are.
@@sgillman16 Very true.. Michael's movements and behavior from 78 is totally gone. Still after 40 years he wouldn't have changed his behavior.
@@CREA9TURE I can't find the comment of mine you replied to, lol.
What did it say?
I get that thought process but at the same time I’m sure for the average person any one of these events would be enough to cause anyone to be like this version of Laurie Strode, with the mind being a very fragile thing. Also I am kinda glad they didn’t involve Halloween 2 in this because I just hated that whole subplot where of which Laurie is Michael’s sister. It made no sense in my opinion and added nothing to the plot, I think they added it as a means to explain why Michael is after Laurie, but that to me at the time I saw it and even to this day just felt needless and if anything just took away from that factor of fear from what Michael Myers is. To me it’s the less I know about certain characters that makes them more scary, not knowing why they do what they do just makes me think I’m just prey to them. So I can totally understand Laurie’s personality in this film. It would have been nice if they kept H20 as canon to the film but that I think would’ve had more problems than just pulling a full clean slate.
This movie would have been way better had they not excluded all the movies
@@eiji862 i’m not gonna say it’s not a proper trauma response bc ppl handle things differently but survivors of actual serial killers don’t even get this intense w it. I think H20 is a more believable reaction to being haunted by a trauma like this
Why wouldn't Laurie automatically be assigned police protection when Michael Myers is known to have escaped?
There's no reason for Michael to specifically target Laurie in the new continuity. She had an unrequited obsession with Michael.
@@bjornervig3795 Well, he did go after her, so it seems requited enough.
@@moonlily1 Actually he didn't go after her. The doctor took him towards her location and Michael just made his way to the house because he likes to kill just because. He randomly killed people when he was in the town and had no interest in going after her specifically.
@@icantdubs4u98 Alright, I'll defer to the expertise of people who are more hardcore fans than I. He targeted Laurie in the first movie, is what I mean, and she believes he will again, even though I'm given to understand that the other sequels didn't happen in this iteration. I didn't actually see this one, I didn't think another one was necessary.
They thought she was dead she ran away
God I hope there's a sin for how terrible Laurie's plan was after like, 40 years of prep.
you were right
Good news, there is!
BioYuGi it iz what it iz
There was a lot of room for error lol
There should have been more sins for it.
Two requests: Cats (2019), and The Cat in the Hat (2003)
Howling Burd19 I believe there is a video already for cat in a hat
Cat fetish
Cat in the hat plus 100 sins for exsisting
Michael Davis it’s just, I hate both of those movies so much, and I want to see CinemaSins DESTROY them >:)
Crist no
I would have given a sin back for the awesome music that plays when Allison finds Oscar’s body and Michael chases her.
Yes!!! That score was AMAZING
Hell yeah, that music was epic hehe, I thought for sure Jeremy was gonna remove some sins for John Carpenter's score there. Shocked, he didn't mention it tbh.
Mister WiZeguy IKRR
"Yakety Sax"?
The sound was created by Running a bow across a guitar
Easiest way to escape Michael Myers, move to an island. He can’t exactly fly commercial.
he can steal a boat
or stow away if it's an island like puerto rico or something
Andrew Shepherd go to Hawaii, it’s 2,500 miles away from the nearest part (San Francisco) of the mainland United States. Too far for him to go by boat.
Brilliant 👌
*swimming noises intensify*
I’m so glad you’re returning to the Halloween franchise in the middle of spring!
Judy Greer doing her fake panic shit was the perfect example of why she should get better roles.
That and her role as Kitty in Arrested Development
That was stupid beyond belief. You can't fake panic, much less the amount of it you would have if you were trapped in a basement and this nearly-invincible killing machine was standing at the door.
@@skar8009 This is one of the many reasons why her character was annoying af to me. The actress’s penchant for throwing lines away in this movie also had me wondering who thought it was good idea to cast her; 5:16 is one of the many examples.
I don't get why you say you can't fake panic when the actress is literally faking panic.
Judy Greer in anything is an example of why I dont enjoy anything with Judy Greer in it
"I'm a doctor, lock your doors"
Makes sense in 2020 ;)
Kinky
@markmac Where to put the toilet paper?
Matt Evans no it doesn’t
4:05 I think John Carpenter once said he regretted making Michael and Laurie siblings because it made Micheal Myers less scary. Instead of going after ANYONE, he was going after his sister. People who weren't Laurie, and weren't connected to her, would be 'safe'.
In Halloween (2018), this rumor would make people feel better because, again, Michael is going after his sister, not just anyone.
Michael and Laurie weren't related in this movie.
@@PittsburghSportsFan43 yeah, that's my point. The rumor started to make people feel safer.
They should have kept it as Laurie being the one who escaped. And have that be the connection.
@@tempusername-l5d In the first film Michael DID stalk her.
Yes this is 100% right
"I mean I get not every town has a Michael Myers, but the dark and evil place is pretty accurate and also, this town DOES ACTUALLY have a Michael Myers, so listen to your mom, maybe?"
Love this :D
I love it
@connextro wait, what do you mean?
I don't think our local town has a Michael Myers, but there is a prison just outside the town so it potentally could.
@@LadyOnikara he mean Michael has entered Haddonfield
Say something Michael
Michael :no one cared who I was till I put on the mask
he's a big guy
@@Carlet_S *breathes* For you...
*Laurie kills the lights*
OHHHH YOU THINK DARKNESS IS YOUR ALLYYYYY
People are finally starting to take notice...wait, wrong movie! O_O
Oh shit u right 😮😮
Best part of this movie is when the mom says “I can’t do ITT!” *sobs* then Michael appears to kill her, and she says, “Gotcha.” ICONIC! I get goosebumps everytime.
Predictable is more like it
I enjoyed that. Let's not forget Laurie was terrified in the first one too, although she was a lot younger than Karen was here. And Karen was doing that, at least partly IMO, to fool Michael or lower his guard before she shot him.
charmedfan7704 I agree with you. Karen definitely did it to deceive Michael. She wanted him to underestimate her abilities and catch him by surprise. It also shows that even though she wouldn’t take her mom seriously over Michael in the past few years, she did learn a lot from her Mom over the years of preparation. Her mom prepared her and that was the kicker for Michael.
charmedfan7704 She also knew she could bait Michael because he loves preying on victims who are helpless.
marty uribe It could definitely be real. Some people fight, some people flight. When your survivor instinct kicks in you’d do anything to survive too. She tricked Michael by playing to his desires. It was genius and worked.
I highly doubt a hospital for the criminally insane would allow a Podcaster to come in to interview their most notorious inmate , or bring in a mask that he wore during his killing spree.
I doubt the police would give up some evidence that was part of a murder case to a random podcast.
I just told myself that the doctor's plan all along was to help Michael escape, so he allowed them in somehow as part of his plan. Maybe to get him riled up and determined to escape, maybe to see him interact with strangers in a controlled setting, maybe thinking that he might use them to somehow facilitate an escape directly from the hospital, idk. I kind of just wrote it off like, if the doctor wants him to escape anyway why would he be very concerned with security?
Held on to this one for a while, eh?
I mean I know 2020 has been a horror, but releasing Halloween in May is a sin.
Dick Holbrook well the sequel, “Halloween Kills”, comes out this year.
Dick Holbrook *ding*
*ding*
Dick Holbrook bruh it says you commented 4 hours ago, but i got the notification for this video less than a minute ago
*Ding!*
The teenage boys in this movie are creepier than Michael.
I was gonna like your comment then realized you were at 69 so I’m gonna do the right thing here and leave it be
Spicy Lemons Say no more. 😉
Oh nope 71 now guess I’ll like now
I FIND IT FUCKING TIRESOME THAT MEN CANT EVEN BE MEN ANYMORE WITHOUT IGNORANT PEOPLE CALLING THEM CREEPY.........SO CAN U EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U THOUGHT THE GUYS IN THE MOVIE WAS CREEPY
@@cutiepie6796 They give off creepy vibes. Also, you misinterpret what the post meant. This was not a broad generalization, it was just the two boys in this film.
I hate the 2 journalists that taunted Michael Myers and how they died
The guy sacrificed himself to buy her time to escape but she literally just stood there patiently waiting for Michael to finish killing him so he can kill her next
Ever heard of fear paralysis?
@@bruceelliot1503 literally. It's a valid fear response
She should have attacked Michael when he was beating up his partner
@@pleaseshutup7053 I’d love to see you do the same in this situation
@@pleaseshutup7053 Lol the guy hit Michael with a crow bar on the face and he still beat the shit out of him , you think she could have beat Michael up? Lol
Biggest flaw of this movie is pretending the second movie didn't exist. Halloween itself has like 5 different universes now.
"This world is filled with love and understanding":
WTF is she talking about?
This world is tearing itself apart because of non-understanding and other things.
Holy Cow, this is not an opinion, but just objectively wrong. Wow.
That's mine, too. It makes no sense that Lori is obsessed with him. If they hadn't wiped Halloween II from existence, it would make sense. But, no, she's really just crazy in this one even if she is right.
Halloween Timeline 1: ONLY Halloween (1978) exists. Solo Timeline.
Halloween Timeline 2: ONLY Halloween & Halloween 2 exist now. I’ll call it the Sister Subplot Timeline.
Halloween Timeline 3: Halloween 4, 5, & Curse are apart of Halloween 1 & 2. I’d like to call this the Thorn Timeline.
Halloween Timeline 4: ONLY Halloween (1978), Halloween 2, H20, & Resurrection are canon. We can call this the 20-Year Timelime.
Halloween Timeline 5: H1 & H2 Rob Zombie Remakes, basically the Inferior Universe.
Halloween Timeline 6: ONLY Halloween (1978) & Halloween (2018) are canon, along with Halloween Kills & Halloween Ends coming next years. The Revival Timeline.
@@Durathos I prefer the H20 timeline, but I don't include Resurrection.
Halloween, Halloween II and Halloween H20 make a perfect horror trilogy
@@spencerobrien1233 Understood. I enjoy H20 & the spin it gave to Laurie defeating Michael one & for all. But I will say my favorite timeline is actually the new Revival timeline. I loved the 2018 Halloween so damn much, & I don’t really know why, but it just felt like the actual Michael Myers from 1978, how “The Shape” was meant to be.
I've been saying it since the past two years,
Please do: *Everything Wrong With Final Destination (2000)*
Those movies really are garbage. They could probably make a 30 minute video for each one.
No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination
Mind of a warrior what?
@@The-Almighty-Whitey Ignore him. He's trolling people in the comments section.
Which one is that 1 or 5
"Why would Michael being Laurie's brother make people feel better?"
Because Michael having no connection to Laurie or the five people he murdered means that anyone could be a victim. Other people might feel safer if Michael and Laurie were related because if Laurie is his only target they wouldn't be in danger (provided they don't get in between him and his sister). The only thing scarier than someone having a motive to kill five people is someone having no motive and still killing five people.
Yes yes yes
Counter argument: Why couldn't Michael have been related to any of the other victims and Laurie simply got caught in the cross hairs?
Not that you could prove it, but Michael's fixation with Laurie could have been she was the one to go to his home and drop the papers off. That this movie erases all but the first hurts it because it needs that tie in. Otherwise, why does Laurie fixate on him? From an investigatory point of view, Laurie was simply the next person on his list. He saw her. He saw that she saw him. He knew to get away, he'd need to kill her.
Michael Plowman because John Carpenter said himself that Michael had no real motive in the first movie. There wasn’t supposed to be a sequel. Loomis’ explained Michaels character: that he purely and simply evil with no conscience. He was going back to his hometown, saw Laurie first and then began stalking her and her friends. No relationships. No real motive. She just happened to be the one that got away. It’s a simple concept that doesn’t need to be over complicated
@@lucaslarson430 Except it doesn't explain Laurie's obsession with him coming back in this film. I can understand Michael's "fascination" with her in the first movie. The 2018 movie does a horrible job explaining why Laurie is convinced he's coming back.
Was just thinking this shit
9:16
Me “What is this scene?”
Cinema sins “I’ll do you one better, why Is this scene?”
I'll do you one better. Who is this scene?
@@KRS2000 I'll do YOU one better, how is this scene?
I'll do you one better - "which is this scene?"
I think I can do y'all one more better. Where is this scene?
Maybe the reason why Myers stalks Laurie in the first film, and kind of with this film, is because when he targets someone, he intends to kill them. Since Laurie escaped, he wants to finish what he started. She was the one who escaped. That could be why he has plenty of focus on her. When he sees a random teen, they die shortly thereafter and stalk them like he did Laurie. Just a theory
He didn't stalk Laurie in this movie. The doctor brought Michael there. Michael tried killing Laurie just because she was around.
@Freddie Krueger Great analysis
The fact that Laurie had however many years to prep and practice to become a “badass” was really disappointing when she can’t hit shit with her rifle.
They basically made Laurie and her retconned daughter into a Sarah and John Conner situation but the actual fail is to follow through on this pretty much at all.
@@oneandonlysound99 do you actually understand what u just wrote?...
pointless headshot montage scene gone to waste
I wish they had a scene in like a graveyard where Laurie hunts Micheal and JUST about manages to hits him while he rounds a corner because remember while Micheal has the mentality of a child he does seems to be really skilled at messing with his victims heads
They turned her into this Ripley/Sarah Connor character and failed miserably. I mean this is a woman who has PTSD of a 40-year incident so she builds this booty camp in her own house and an underground bunker under the kitchen?
H20 did a better attempt at portraying Laurie.
She had a rifle with a scope and Michael standing directly in front of her and she still couldn't shoot him in the head?
I'm more mad at the police officer shooting the stairwell after Mike boi had peaced out down stairs, guy who's literally trained in firearms and suppression can't do what he's literally paid to do
Matt .S Apparently, if he had painted the mask black... the cop wouldn’t have missed.
@@kourtneyr.scruggs0988 Holy
At close range, a scope is actually more of a hindrance. Also you've clearly never done any shooting before, headshots are hard.
@@nobudgetcomments2742 Headshot? Not at 5 yards they're not.
"GOTCHA"
Literally one of the most sensible, badass scenes I've ever seen.
Marvie Ed clearly you haven’t watched a lot of movies....
I thought it was super cool too :D
That was one of my favorite scenes in the film, loved it. Did not see it coming and I definitely thought it was badass. :)
@@Menibor1 dude...I meant in THIS movie not in GENERAL 🤦🏽♀️
@Mind of a warrior that's cool...
The reason micheal was able to bust his hand through the window without hitting the metal door fence is bc when the dad walked out there he left it open
Good point!!
Exactly
How did the dad teleport to the closet?
@Freddie Krueger did you not watch this video in how there's no way he would of done it in that time?
"murdilated"
English has never let me down
It's a perfectly fine word. I looked it up in a dictionotomy.
That's American not English
Ammmmahhhrivvvvcabne
@@aaronbradley3232 according to the U.S., they're one and the same
@@jhrushbe2851 I know right? Especially when the word is actually "murdelize", and has been for at least 60+ years!
I see this movie went to the Hollywood school of wasting Judy Greer
Aww, they dragged poor Ant-Man's ex into this?
I loved this movie but I couldn’t stand her character or her for that matter.
Will she EVER get any role that is as awesome as she is?
@@DSMTheEditor someday. We just have to wait and see I guess
@@RaeezTheDeadPoet Archer's success is at least 20% Judy Greer.
I’d remove a sin for Julian screaming Oh Sh*t when Michael Myers jumpscared Vicky
I'd remove 20 sins for the way Julian nopes the f@#$ out of there, runs back upstairs, sees Vicki says nope again, runs downstairs and tells Dave "You go up there, you gonna get killed Dave." Then leaves the house. Smartest person in any horror movie ever.
@@danieldavis5113 he's watched enough movies to know what happens to black people in horror films 🤷♂️
@@jamesquiggins I wanted to bring that up but with the way The climate is in today's world I didn't want somebody to label me a racist
Speaking of black horror characters, the dude from Get Out holds the world Heavyweight belt for smartly navigating a horror movie, any race, no question.
@@danieldavis5113 fuck off
"Aaah! Jamie Lee Curtis!" That was hilarious.
Thank you for pointing out the fact that this movie doesn't work if it is just a sequel of Halloween. Both laurie and michael's assumed obsessions with each other only make sense if he IS her brother and she KNOWS that. This just comes off as a crazy lady who wasted years of her life preparing for a dude who would not have even shown up on her doorstep if he wasnt already in a cop car heading that way.
I tend to agree with you. He probably held a ton of resentment inside of himself after all those years knowing she was the one that got away. She did waste her life away worry about him..
@@brandonsavitski it's funny going back seeing all these silly theories. Now we know Michael gave no shits about Laurie and Laurie was the one obsessed with him only
@@NYC_Goodyhurts the heart
I liked it when they were siblings
"You don't have a security system, Karen"
"YOU AREN'T MY SUPERVISOR!"
I was half expecting her to say OK Micheal say goodbye to these
I kind of feel like that's a reference to Cheryl in Archer who was played by Judie Greer but I also feel like it's just a Karen reference
When the mom tricked Michael into thinking she couldn't do it I was like
"Yes! One good thing from this stupid movie!"
So the goofy “aha, gotcha” fake was the one good thing you took away from this movie?
1:16 This. This right here. The whole thing about Michael in this movie is that he's built up to be this monstrous figure, when... all he really did was kill his sister and a couple horny teenagers in the 70's. He'd really only have this level of myth to him if you factor in the sequels, which are getting ignored since this film is meant to be a direct sequel to the original 1978 film.
I'm surprised they commited such an error. They stated nothing after the first Halloween existed but still act as if it did. Maybe it's the only way they could get a plot device to set Michael free, just have two podcasters interested in a guy who killed 5 people in total more than 4 decades ago.
i mean he survived getting shot and falling off a balcony. That would probably raise some eyebrows
A better way to do it would be for Michael Myers being released from prison on a technicality. Maybe the doctor could have used a plea of insanity, and then said that because Michael Myers had been a model inmate all these years, he deserved to be released into the care of the doctor. But then when he is being transferred to a mental hospital, something happens, and he escapes. Then Michael decides to get revenger on Laurie because she put him in prison. Or maybe during the car accident he hits his head and turns evil again.
It's because it was in a small town that never really experienced horror like Michael Myers. I feel like people are stupid and the movie suffers because of this
@@jaxsonlee10 are you commenting as someone from a small town? Because yes they do remember things like this. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in their school history class
Im surprised you didn’t sin Michael for knowing how to drive since he was initially put in a institution since he was a kid and at no point would have been taught how to drive
- anyway thanks for 300 likes on a simple question anyway
Yeah, but he drove in the first film too, so really can't sin that here
@@John231984 he also did in fact sin that in the first film video
because driving a car is such an impossibly complex task, almost like it's rocket science or something, right?...
@@pipoper101 true it's not that but its definitely not something mentally disabled ppl perfect on the first try. i mena seriously he drove better than ppl who have passed their test.
@@kelltaylor5774 depends on the disability. I got from the original Halloween that Michael's catatonia was faked
This movie is Home Alone, but it's not a kids Christmas movie
k....^^
What?
sure boy
so true.
Holy shit I just explained what this movie was like to my coworker today and said it was like if Michael Myers was tossed into a Home Alone scenario
If there hadn't been a sin off for the “Gotcha” moment I would have been pissed
"what are we gonna do? Cancel Halloween?" Then months after this video was posted we've already started cancelling Halloween due to Corona
I was reading this as he said it so for that you get a 👍 LIKE lol
Just think how much free marketing the beer got outta this
We definitely had Halloween in Louisiana. I feel like that says a whole lot about my state 😂
Huh, I worked as an extra on this film. Was one of the 'dumb teenagers doing dumb teenage sh*t'. And yes, some of those moments with the teenage characters had me scratching my head as to how they were a part of a horror movie (you don't get an idea of the bigger picture from what I was doing). But hey, I was in something CinemaSins did a video on so that's a plus I guess....or a sin? Not sure.
Rumour has it that Jamie Lee Curtis was high on Activia yogurt during the movie
Edit : Woah this is the most likes I’ve ever had on RUclips. Look mom, I made it to the big leagues ! Thanks y’all
At least she was regular on set.
That goopy stuff that makes hermaphrodites poop?
RingaDingDoItToEm He thinks she was born with both sex organs, she wasn’t. He’s a dipshit.
Remington Steele If I was the joke police I’d arrest you for your lame joke.
What?
All i needed today was "Ahhh Jamie Lee Curtis" Dont know why but it broke me
The 2 cops talking about sandwich bread was a nod to the cops in Halloween 5. I never realized that before
Except the 2018 cops were entertaining. LoL
@@dcap79 no they weren't
@@dcap79
Incorrect
@@dcap79 okay well apparently people can only have their own opinions and everyone else is objectively wrong. I agree, the 2018 cops were entertaining and the ones in Halloween 5 were particularly obnoxious
@@dcap79 i agree.!
I liked 3 scenes. When she shot at MM but it was a mirror, the “long shot” where everyone is trick or treating and he got the knife etc, When she went off the balcony mimicking the first movie but in reverse.
Can it really be considered a reverse though
Jack Napier in terms of MM position yea.
Also really dug the opening titles. If the cold open hadn't been a piece of crap the credits would've given me false hope.
Will you we watching Jason vs Michael movie?
@@karlenmgl no. it makes no sense to how they would fight and he has no chance against a charged up jason. Movie will be 5 min long. Jason cuts his ass in half the end.
"The world is full of love."
Yeah okay, all those warlords and drug cartels are just wonderful loving people.
They live in a small quiet town where nothing bad happens. So they don't have to worry about things like war lords and drug cartels. Shit I live in a huge city where all kinds of bad things happen. Look up Cincinnati Ohio. It's a shit show and even I don't worry about war lords or the drug cartel. Robberies? yes, senseless murder? yes, sex trafficking? yes, child predators???? uh hell yes. That's just to name a few. However this is a small town and a fictional one at that. Where nobody has to worry about anything. Where Michael is the boogeyman under the bed.
Cold dark place , world full of love , eh 50/50
The world is not a dark and evil place.I laughed when I heard her say that
“You were born with wings, why prefer to crawl through life?”
― Rumi
build the wall
You know I liked the vibe of this flick at first. There was something legitimately bone-chilling about just seeing huge Michael Myers' silhouette in this maximum security prison and knowing he will get out at some point.
Unfortunately that foreboding flame of fear was pretty quickly snuffed out by a combination of cheesy gen-z teen humor attempting to lighten everything and Michael getting his ass kicked by an old lady at every turn.
I suppose my biggest gripe is that my Halloween movie basically turned into Home Alone with Lori as the kid and Michael as the robbers.
^ This comment right here.
Oh boy wait until you see Halloween Ends 💀
Ahhh Halloween...the most extreme case of sibling rivalry EVER seen!!
Man that Silver Shamrock music still sends shivers down my spine.
just like any serial killer movie, so many things conveniently done by the killer that can't be explained how they did those
He is not human, he spend 40 years just looking at the sky doing nothing and he is stronger than most men in theri 60s, logic was shot and thrown out of the window to a busy street!
Seriously why watch a movie and focus on stupid. I watch for the story that's the point.
@@αδααρκ
The story of an old crazy person who tries to kill a grandma he almost killed 40 YEARS AGO?! Yeah, there is a lot to ignore here.
Markus Adam yes most of the Halloween movies are really stupid. Halloween Resurrection is offensively dumb. The Rob Zombie movie are so graphicallyviolent that it becomes an un enjoyable experience
Michael Myers is NOT a serial killer, it was even one of the sins.
RUclips: there's 39 comments
Me: can I see them?
RUclips: no
No. *Ding*
*Ding*
Ok why is everyone saying *ding*
@@DreadPirateElla *ding* *ding*
@@pianoboi4842 bruh
Going back all the way to Tourist Trap for the mannequin laughter in the audio outtakes. Well played, Cinemasins!
They spent so much time on the granddaughter that at one point I forgot it was a Halloween movie.
Granddaughters are tight!
Are you going to watch Jason Vs Michael movie?
@@karlenmgl I would LITERALLY kill for a Jason vs Michael It won't be as choreographed as Jason vs Freddy but it would be a slugfest just two giants going at it
Why? Michael killing teenagers was the entire premise of the first film.
The granddaughter is going to be the focal character in the last film Halloween Ends. This movie was a character building movie so you could get to know her and have empathy for her.
Dammit CinemaSins, I'm trying to do my homework!
Little Moth haha my semester is done 😎😎
I'm in class, but screw it, I'd rather watch Cinemasins
I’m disappointed a sin wasn’t taken off for Julien whenever he ran waya
I really thought the scene where Michael looks down for Laurie and he doesn't see her but the little theme plays was hilarious and worth a sin off.
that was my favorite part of this movie.
I love how this movie avoided a lot of clitches where Julien didn't try to do stuff even after she said stop and Michael becomes the unlikely hero I'm happy they avoided that
12:30 a retroactive “he survives this” right here.
“Halloween purists can call this plot twist dumb all they want. But do you know the ONLY way this scene works? HE’S HER F*CKING BROTHER AND HALLOWEEN 2 ACTUALLY F*CKING HAPPENED!” THANK YOU!👏 My feelings exactly. That scene, hell this whole movie doesn’t pack much of a punch because they took away the sibling plot line
So I should guess you will ignore Jason vs Michael movie
@@karlenmgl Why are people so convinced that this is happening? Has there been any official acknowledgement from the studios?
So true. This series ignoring installments whenever it feels like it has killed fans not just spitting fanboy crap and seriousness. Also the failure to make the thorn storyline work over 3 films when it's barely in the first two of it. But even with H20 they could've went from there or Laurie's bloodless kill in Ressurection even. You can't ignore Halloween II regardless-it means too much no matter what. Least with Jason there's "supernatural strong but hardly invincible guy with messed up face since childhood" and "zombie gothic horror Jason." Fans may be divided but there's really only one world, and if you want to say, two. Not...1...2....3...I lost count on Halloween (not including the remakes). I care more about uncut and/or restored scenes to make Halloween 5 better than sequel to fake loomis, crappy sarah connor rip-off plotting, and disrespecting danielle harris jamie loyd (again!) anyday. And 5 is definitely lower tier in the halloween franchise.
@@karlenmgl Please. Chucky vs. Freddy would be more likely to happen than that at this point.
@@karlenmgl Myers shouldn't have to verse anyone we already know he's gonna win even non fans of Myers know it but simply won't admit it😂
Everytime Laurie did a one-liner or something"cool" I would laugh because she would get immediately attacked. I mean considering she has been training for 51 years, that's bad training
I like when her head digitally apparated from the darkness and she said Happy Halloween because that’s the name of the movie
Hopefully those terrible one-liners are excised from the upcoming sequels. Laurie was kind of annoying in this movie (her running to the top of a set of stairs and yelling “Karen” comes to mind immediately as does her doing security checks in her daughter’s house), but that’s most likely due to Jamie Lee Curtis having way more input than she should have had.
me: everythings perfect in this movie
cinema sins: this is not perfect
me: this isnt perfect
Eh. I've actually been kicked in the head and you can still function pretty well after for a bit. I'm sure Laurie had a really nasty headache for a while though. And in Halloween 1 she was attacked repeatedly by Michael, stalked by him, and went around that home finding all her friends' dead bodies, while trying to protect herself and two little kids from the killer. Pretty traumatic, especially for a teenager.
I was waiting for this movie sins for 2 years 😅
I love that a woman who is scared of a serial killer is living alone in the wood
🤣
S
love seeing all the side characters here making reappearances in Halloween Kills. the mental patient from Kills actually appears here, so do the doctor/nurse couple, and some others.
Technically, he WOULD be considered a serial killer in the first movie, since all you'd need to be a serial killer is three different INSTANCES of killing that are separate.
- Murdering Judith Myers in his house
- Killing that mechanic to get his clothes
- The spree in Haddonfield
that is 3 different instances, and as such HE would be considered that-
The teens and the mechanic happened all in one day that’s what makes it a spree
no mention of micheal breathing at the end of the credits stillalive somehow xp
He was standing in the fire and then he was nowhere to be seen. A death offscreen is not a death.
I mean 6 shots didn't kill this man what could fire do plus Michael is supposed to be the embodiment of evil and Not human that is why you don't even see his full face during the starting scene and bathroom scene and that there is no soul just an empty void hence he is mentioned in the end credits as "The Shape"
I said the same thing in the movie theater when I watched this. How did that wounded doctor have the ability to lift heavy ass invincible Michael Audrey Myers into the police car? Wounded or not, I don’t believe that dr could have lifted M&M at all. 🤷🏾♀️
My ex girlfriend passed out drunk on the beach one time on vacation and I attempted to carry her back to my hotel room. At the time I was super fit / ripped. She weighed anywhere from 135-170 lbs and I struggled to pick up her dead weight. No way this 60 plus year old doctor who got shot mind you could have picked Michael Myers up and put him into the vehicle.
@@brandonsavitski 135 and 170 are two very different numbers what the hell wrong with u
@Zach Moore Yes his middle name is Audrey. It was confirmed by a lot of directors and producers, etc
Jokes on him he didn’t add a sin for Micheal still surviving being burned alive
It left him a little.. Hot under the collar...
D- licious yea in the moving you hear him breathing
@D- licious edgy
Because, according to this movie, Michael was never burned. Only the 1978 Halloween happened.
D- licious what the fuck is wrong with you
Actually when Laurie went into the room where she fought Michael she didn’t lock down that door so he had no doors to go through
Alright I’ve been waiting long enough...
Where is the Annabelle Comes Home sins
Please please please
Do this movie
Ok well whoever liked this in the span of 1-8 minutes ty :)
Waiting long enough**
Fixed
ty
this series ever existed. ding, 1000 sins.
Conjuring 1-2 are great and hopefully the 3rd will be too but the spin-offs are garbage.
@@spicylemons5230 i did it, the vids not that great but still
14:00 also it is completely absurd to me that Laurie trained for this night for 40 years and didn't realize that hiding behind a door with windows on it was a horrible idea
Thank you for taking this movie down a few pegs. It was so annoying how they took what they wanted from canon to suit their story but insisted it was a direct sequel to the Original.
This movie wants to have it's cake and eat it too, every single step of the way, and not only did fans accept this, but they embraced it.
I like that you removed a sin for Julian and Vicky. Loved them.
You have no security system "KAREN"
Uh Oh....
I don’t even get scared of the Halloween movies anymore, I just laugh because people in these types of horror movies are literally less educated than a preschooler
Yeah alot of directors seem to think shock value = super scary.. Relying primarily on jump scares (or in the case of Saw at least) gore porn.. There's loads of talented folks in the industry from make up artists to costume designers to set piece creators but it takes an incompetent director to put it all to waste smh
@markmac agreed. I haven't seen a Halloween fan film but Never Hike Alone (Friday the 13th) is probably the best fan film I've ever seen!
markmac thanks for the recommendation!
@@MattyyyBoiii I think this is a very important comment. And I think the answer lies in the type of people who have been able to put themselves through film school in America. It’s a type of incompetent, rich, industry personality that is destroying America’s cinematic legacy.
I really thought he would take a sin off for the switcharoo when Michael is looking down at her and she’s not there 😞😂
I know, that scene was actually epic.
As he says, it was actually Loomis who was in that position 40 years ago, so technically not a switcharoo.
I honestly did too, that was a great moment & nod to the original, loved it. :)
I know it’s cinemasins, but he seemed to have a bone to pick with movie because they didn’t like it
@@jogglehead It’s still an awesome scene.
4:28 “Ahhhh! Jamie Lee Curtis!” Same exact reaction i had the first time i saw this movie 😂
“ *H E W A S D O I N G V E R Y W E L L LA S T N I G H T* “
maybe someone around here gave him lessons.
I cant understand why after 40 years laurie is so obsessed with Michael Meyers. Without all the other movies, her obsession with him escaping makes no sense. Survivors usually are able to let go long before 4o years pass
What about Dr. Loomis & Dr. Ranbir Sartain being obsessed with Michael Myers and making him their focal point of their lifes work? I'm sure they've had numerous patients kill people so what made him so special for them to devout their entire lifes work solely around him. Or the true crime podcasters studying him for years. Nothing Michael Myers did wasn't exactly that out of the ordinary from what other killers do that would garner so much attention.
Just my opinion if a guy killed my friends and tried to kill me I think I would be obsessed and crazy as Laurie was and I think I would fear him coming back for me at some point and in this case she was right he escaped to haunt Haddanfield again
@@jaxsonlee10 I think I would if I was obsessed with killing as he was
Please do Everything Wrong With Child's Play (2019)
That movie was awful. I saw it in the theater when it came out 😂
Mind of a warrior You’re *
Be a smart troll.
it exists, just like this one. 1,000 sins.
I can't believe you missed the most insane part of the third act. Michael is supposed to have put together all those mannequins missing two fingers. When Laurie was cutting all the lights off we saw that the mannequins were in boxes not put together. There is blood on them to let the audience know he put them together but how? How did he have the time, and he did this after grabbing the husbands body and stuffing him in the closet.
This movie is so stupid and so horribly edited.
THAT made you hate it? Good lord am I lucky to not have such a nitpicky attitude.
@@spongeboymebob771 nitpicky? The movie doesn't make any sense!! One moment his sonic putting mannequins together, putting body in nice position or making a human pumpkin head. Then the other he walks slower than a snail, some how gets behind you and kills you. I can't believe this movie is so popular but its so bad. If you actually enjoyed this movie either you never seen one or you just dumb
@@Hello-vx2fo Hahaha holy shit you guys focus on the weirdest tiny bits and pieces of a movie to find a reason to hate it, it's psychotic lmao
@@Hello-vx2fo Dude this is not a history movie lol , not everything has to make sense , it is like getting mad at Spongebob cause they have fire under water 🤦 you must be a sad person
@@Hello-vx2fo Similar things happen in the original. Like stealing a headstone, and putting it on the bed, while also having the time to tie hang the guy in the closet.
Doctor: I want to *understand* Michael's evil.
Later: [Michael crushes Doc's head with his boot.]
Me: They never learn. 🙄🤦
They just want the fame. Write a book about it or something. It's not like such cases happen often, so what good does it do to "understand" one extremely specific type of insanity?
12:54 not only does he lift Michael's huge frame into the back seat, he did it with one arm as he's nursing a gunshot wound in his left arm. Movie magic.
I really hope the next two movies bring the familial connection back into continuity. The fact that they just threw it out the window for THIS movie, means this movie makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!
The first movie worked without it pretty well
@@ComicWriter-ml3qt Actually, the first movie DID have the familial connection.....in the TV version.
It makes perfect sense, at least if you watch Kills.
The gist is that Michael's on a completely random path as he's always been, it's just that Laurie thinks he's after her specifically so she keeps getting in his way.
I feel like the CinemaSins guys understand Michael Myers and the first Halloween movie better than the makers of this movie do 🤔
No matter HOW many times you mess up movies , I still love your work. Keep up the good work
13:08
All I could think about the first time I saw that scene was, "A royale with cheese.", and wondered what the damn point of the scene was.
This movie should’ve been a direct sequel of the original Halloween 2 IMO, it just makes zero sense to me as to why Laurie was so persistent that Michael was still gonna try to go after her
I feel like whoever wrote this film HATES podcasting and thinks they are just taking advantage of a situation for their benefit
So It's the same thing as journalists...
Let’s just say, they’re lucky they were even put in the film.
And They are right....
Like some traditional journalists, some podcasters just see the story and don't see the people involved in those stories as people.
Plus you have the modern horror trope that most of the victims have to have some serious flaw.
The podcasters were using the situation to their benefit. They were no doubt trying to exploit this story and make money off of it. They were professional podcasters. I'm sure that's how they make a living via their podcasts.
1:41 “I would give every sin back if they had a scene showing the podcasters opening up a 1978 Captain Kirk mask and painting it-“ The original mask was actually made from a 1975 Captain Kirk mask
That's what he meant lol. He's just saying it's weird for two random podcasters to have the actual mask.
Shout out to anyone else who got the Naked Gun reference in the end clips of the cop car driving
Yep, Naked Gun/Police Squad reference!
@@comedychrises I wouldn't be surprised if Family Guy also referenced it, but I haven't watched that show.
"she just carved 67 pumpkins" lmao
"Do you know how long it takes to hollow out a human head. Uh... I mean I wouldn't know how to do that" lmao
It takes approximately 3 hours 😊.
I don't like how each movie retcons previous movies. Not having them be brother and sister really disappointed me.
“Murdilated” I cracked up how you said it. I also can’t understand how the reporter said there was no reaction when he pulled out the mask. So much chaos happened AND michael moved his head to the side in acknowledgement of it! 😂
Think he meant how Michael gave no vocal response!
i hate the new RUclips update and the comments have moved, ans you have to click and it is just annoying
Me too!
Wait..what update?
@@MutatedPercent just enjoy it while you can
T. Lipscomb
But I'm confused :(
T. Lipscomb they literally did it for no reason
It would have been a greater movie if Micheal never got caught. 40 years later, after terrorizing little towns all over the country, he comes back in Haddonfield. It's scarier to know he has been free for 40 years instead of "I prayed every night for him to escape".