WHAT IF FRIEZA REVIVED KING COLD?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • #Frieza #KingCold #DragonBallSuper
    King Cold has been a huge subject in the dragon ball community. There is a theory floating around that Frieza trained with King Cold. That Frieza somehow brought his father back to life in order to directly train and have him as an ally. But does this theory make sense. What if King Cold fought with frieza? Could King Cold actually return? Would Dragon Ball Super properly use King Cold's character alongside Frieza and his Black Frieza transformation? Dragon Ball Multiverse has had many theories about King Cold. Qaaman discusses this anime and manga related video today.
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  • @nostalgianetwork1225
    @nostalgianetwork1225 Год назад +90

    I just want to know what is Freiza's race called

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +54

      Frieza's Race...

    • @mdxque8393
      @mdxque8393 Год назад +31

      Frost demons get “semi-conical” in Xenoverse. Omega Shenron calls Frezia one… though Frieza also says for Omega to call him “Mama” so make that of what ya will…

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +14

      @@mdxque8393 Which XenoVerse?

    • @riggedgamer2588
      @riggedgamer2588 Год назад +11

      Xenoverse 2 mentions it acouple times briefly

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 Год назад +10

      @@mdxque8393 I think omega is right he seems very intelligent

  • @spritvio639
    @spritvio639 Год назад +85

    Idk if Frieza cares much about Cold at this point. From what we've seen Frieza never mentions him or even tried to revive him, he rather wish to be taller like in Broly. Pretty sad Cold went through all that effort after Namek to fix Frieza and now Frieza doesn't even bat an eye that his father is dead.

    • @_P2M_
      @_P2M_ Год назад +17

      LOL, the effort of scooping him up and telling his cronies to fix him.

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 Год назад +21

      If Cold has as much potential as Frieza then I feel like him and Frieza training should be beneficial for the both of them

    • @invictus6176
      @invictus6176 Год назад +3

      @@lancetheking7524 it would be.

    • @karnage2948
      @karnage2948 Год назад +2

      @@lancetheking7524 that’s the only way I can think they can bring back king cold. Bullshit about a random planet frieza discovers has dragon balls and use those to revive king cold. Then have them train.

    • @paulocuento9949
      @paulocuento9949 Год назад

      @@karnage2948 that would make sense.. or maybe just clone his dad, and raise him as his son.. in a sick twist of fate

  • @reptilian_geneticist
    @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +68

    Frieza was already presented with the proposition to bring back his father and he said no.... Frieza doesn't wanna answer to anyone... King cold was to Frieza as palpatine was to Vader... I have a feeling that King cold was actually stronger and capable of transforming

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +23

      Great point...

    • @R.E.factor
      @R.E.factor Год назад +19

      The suspicion that King Cold is stronger has some evidence. When mecha Freeza and King Cold were traveling to earth the Z fighters mentioned that they felt Freeza and an even stronger power headed their way.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +14

      @@R.E.factor yeah exactly... and theres a good chance that Cold could transform... He was just too arrogant to think that a Saiyan could be stronger than him and Frieza... plus it takes time to power up and transform and Trunks wasn't giving him any...

    • @1BuFo
      @1BuFo Год назад +6

      @@R.E.factor no, they said they felt 2 powers of similar strength on the ship

    • @R.E.factor
      @R.E.factor Год назад +13

      @@1BuFo Vegeta: “but never mind that, who is this guy with Freeza, the one with the Ki so much larger than his?” That was stated in the Anime.

  • @TheKing-kw6mu
    @TheKing-kw6mu Год назад +19

    You've been uploading daily for almost 3 weeks, I don't comment every video. But I for sure watch and like every one of them. Thanks Qaaman!

  • @12227UserName
    @12227UserName Год назад +16

    It's already been stated before that Freeza was born with more power and more cruelty than his father. It's why King Cold handed down control to his son.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +2

      Why is he so strict?

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 Год назад +1

      Don't we have enough characters in this series who were born evil? Frieza always came off as a product of nurture instead; he's the son of a space fascist who if how he acted after his death is any indication, didn't give a damn about him on a personal level.

  • @eslwgpg1226
    @eslwgpg1226 Год назад +8

    King Cold resorted to trying to use Trunks’s own sword against him to gain the upper hand. The fact that he felt he needed a weapon clearly shows that he knew he was outclassed in terms of power. Also given what we know about how toriyama writes, if King Cold had more power in reserve it would’ve been made clear to us, not left up for debate.

    • @dannylopez5976
      @dannylopez5976 Год назад +1

      I agree with this, the fact that even DB Heroes hasn't given a new form says everything you need to know about him not being in his final form.

    • @Sunburst_No
      @Sunburst_No Год назад +1

      King cold is referred to as being much stronger than Frieza when he is first shown. In that scene cold speculates that trunks sword is the REASON trunks could kill his son. He didn't say or believe he needed the blade, just believe that the blade gave the Saiyan his power... Which he then decides to kill the Saiyan with his own blade. An obvious psychological attack. On revival of F Frieza said his father is too superstitious... An obvious reference to his incorrect assumption of trunks and his power.

  • @themachine1679
    @themachine1679 Год назад +7

    Yo qaaman, we may not all comment on every video but trust me we all appreciate your grind and videos.

  • @dumnbuger
    @dumnbuger Год назад +9

    What if trunks spared king cold, and king cold
    Promised to give up his evil ways like he said he would?

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +6

      Lol...

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 Год назад +5

      Someone get MasakoX on the phone!

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 Год назад

      @@RacingSnails64 What if King Cold turned good would be interesting if we had anything concrete about the guy. King Cold should hope Dragonball gets an actual Expanded Universe like Star Wars and not just card games and games that retell the same story

    • @gohanlopez5330
      @gohanlopez5330 Год назад

      If that was the case, he would have not been killed by goku who shows mercy. I assumed he tried to blow up the planet (initial plan) when he was leaving.

  • @N.i.E.M.O
    @N.i.E.M.O Год назад +3

    It's ironic.
    Part of the appeal of the character of King Cold has always been the mystery behind him - his origins, his motivations, his power. And yet, we are all clamoring for more information about him.
    And if we were to ever get all of this backstory and all of this exposition, it would kinda 'ruin' the appeal of the character in the first place.
    Even so, I think the best compromise is perhaps a flashback (either in a 'movie' or the series proper) in which we see the real relationship between King Cold and his son (perhaps even Cooler). After all, King Cold was apparently the **true** person who created the family 'galactic empire', and the one who first found and 'enslaved' the Saiyans.
    It makes sense to assume that Cold would have the same kind of 'transformations' as his offspring (as evidenced by DBS's Frost, who is shown to have the exact same transformation line as Frieza). Therefore, it wouldn't be a stretch to assume that Cold did in fact have more 'forms' than the one we saw him in the main series. And if it is true that even in his 'second form', his power was near equal (or even greater) than a powered-up final form Frieza, it stands to reason that a potential 'final form King Cold' would be astronomically more powerful than even his son(s).
    Of course, there is the question as to why King Cold never bothered to use this supposed full power against Trunks. But we have to consider that King Cold is incredibly old - old enough perhaps to have even witnessed the rampage of the ancient Majin Buu (whom he somehow has full knowledge of). We already know that in our first introduction to Frieza, Frieza proclaims that he uses his repressed transformations because he is unable to control his full overwhelming power. That being said, it wouldn't be out of the question to assume that King Cold would also use 'repressed' forms in order to limit his power, although unlike Frieza (who suppresses his power due to youth and inexperience), Cold suppresses his power due to his advanced age and inability to maintain such incredible strength.
    If we take this scenario into consideration, a theoretical 'full-power King Cold' would probably be in excess of anything lower than 'Super Perfect Cell' - aka; he'd be more powerful than just about every other naturally-born character introduced in DBZ. In fact, he'd likely even be stronger than 'Supreme Kai. After all, Cold never mentioned to Frieza about fearing Kaioshin - only Buu and Beerus. Perhaps in the ancient past, Cold witnessed the universal rampage of Majin Buu (perhaps Buu was even the one who destroyed his species' home planet, explaining the rarity of their species in the series). But after Buu was sealed away, Cold realized his chance to take over the entire universe, as he was now more powerful than even the highest surviving 'god' (Kaioshin) - until Beerus stepped in and put Cold in his place. But instead of killing Cold outright, Beerus saw the potential in Cold and decided to utilize him as a sort of 'ally'. King Cold would take the role of a sort of 'psuedo' God of Destruction - maintaining and destroying planets and galactic order, whilst Beerus could take his extra-long naps, allowing Cold and his empire to do the dirty work for him.
    However, since Cold is not 'immortal', he does eventually age. And in his advanced age, it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain his full power, thus he restricts his power via his transformations. Even in his 'second form', he is still more powerful than almost every other mortal being in the universe, so it isn't a problem for him, though he realizes he will need an eventual successor. Enter Frieza (and/or Cooler), who while not as (initially) as powerful as him, have vastly more potential. Of course, Cold keeps this potential a secret from Frieza because he realizes that Frieza's cruelty would mean his own death if Frieza ever surpassed his own power, and would only ever reveal Frieza's true potential only after Cold himself was on the verge of death from age.
    .....
    Anyway, I think this would be the best way to present and expand upon the character of King Cold. It would continue the character's legacy of being a 'historical' badass without ruining his character with plotholes about why he was or wasn't more powerful than when we first saw him. It proves that Cold was indeed super-powerful in DBZ, greater than Frieza (or even Cooler) in DBZ, though still inferior to (the full potential of Frieza) as seen in DBS. It would also explain why Cold was aware of, and warning Frieza of, the power of Buu and Beerus, whilst also ignoring Kaioshin (or pre-Majin Dabura, etc). It solidifies Cold as being just as menacing as he should of been in the original DBZ series, whilst also avoiding the silliness of him somehow having the same potential of Frieza, being able to surpass literal gods within a few months time, with the only explanation of him not achieving this because he was just 'lazy' or 'stupid'.

    • @selfimprovement5873
      @selfimprovement5873 9 дней назад

      You seem like a true analytical intellectual. Have you ever considered the reason why King Cold didn't transform was because he wouldn't have had time to?
      Remember how long it would take for Frieza to transform back in the day?
      His son just died and he knew he was next.
      The second reason why he didn't transform is maybe because he really did believe that sword held the power. ( my guess is that it is so rare coming across beings stronger than he is he had briefly gone into a stage of denial.)

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 Год назад +8

    Given Frieza has become more pragmatic in his third life, I feel he would consider reviving Cold if only to have a powerful ally. Him calling Cold "bossy" feels like he's exaggerating since Super Broly showed Cold basically retired and gave him the job

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +2

      Are you marathoning my content?

    • @efreq.6465
      @efreq.6465 Год назад +1

      Imagine he brings back king cold and cold ends up getting mad at frieza once he realizes he’s just being used as a tool for frieza to become a god of destruction. Frieza ends up hunting him down until king cold and him end up on another planet that has a race of friezes, except they’re peaceful. In the midst of their figh, cold manages to activate a device sending a message across the planet before his death. This activates a message for cooler who was abandoned by his father since his race did not like this group of friezes who couldn’t transform, his mom was also a poor prostitute that were heavily oppressed by the other faction. Little did he know, that cooler grew up to be the polar opposite of frieza on this cut off world. This would make cooler hate all space empires. Realizing his brother frieza is a fascist ruler, they could fight

    • @efreq.6465
      @efreq.6465 Год назад

      Imagine a frieza movie

    • @efreq.6465
      @efreq.6465 Год назад

      This would be a good way to being both of these characters back. It would be sick to have cooler as a sort of dragon ball version of dr doom where he’s on nobodies side except his empire who’s loyal to him.

  • @riggedgamer2588
    @riggedgamer2588 Год назад +2

    Your just so damn good at this and I get so much gas watching these videos so many theory's

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      What specifically do you like about my videos?

  • @TheRagev3
    @TheRagev3 Год назад +8

    I wonder about Frost, he seems more like a rogue type of Friezan (a stray), but could there be a universe 6 royal line of Friezans and if there are more Friezans why are they not considered strong by Vados and Champa? Do they have their own King Cold? i hope these questions get addressed eventually by Toriyama.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +5

      You know they never will right?

    • @TheRagev3
      @TheRagev3 Год назад +2

      @@QaamansLand Perhaps, just have to wait and see!

    • @R.E.factor
      @R.E.factor Год назад +3

      There is so much great lore and potential that will never be explored nor explained. Take the entire demon realm as an example.

    • @DynastyZwarrior90
      @DynastyZwarrior90 Год назад

      A U6 arc must happen at some point. They teased it more than once in Super. It would be interesting because it would involve familiar characters (Cabba,Caulifla,Kale and maybe Pirina/Saonel) that we don't know if they will live at the end like the main cast.

  • @Thisissirknight
    @Thisissirknight Год назад +13

    Man I always liked king cold even though we only have limited information on him.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +2

      Why?

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 Год назад +1

      Agreed. He's such a cool look. He at least deserved to fight Trunks rather than get oneshot. They made a big deal about Cold being EVEN STRONGER than Frieza yet Trunks killed him even easier.
      His voice in Kai was also amazing. He was voiced by Jason Douglass, who now voices Beerus.

  • @SaturnBlade
    @SaturnBlade Год назад +5

    If King cold did come back and train with Frieza that could explain. Be very beneficial as you can have multiple strong enemies on fronts of the universe. Cooler into the mix that would be awesome. Return of the Frost empire

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +1

      What did you think of this video specifically though?

  • @bonepie
    @bonepie Месяц назад

    I just thought King Cold was just how Final Form Freeza was going to look once he gets old enough.

  • @DJUmi0710
    @DJUmi0710 Год назад +4

    Thank you for posting daily content, Qaaman!
    I hope to see King Cold make a return in any possible way that makes sense!

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +2

      Thanks, what do you enjoy.

    • @DJUmi0710
      @DJUmi0710 Год назад

      @@QaamansLandMaybe Cold gets wished back and gets trained by Frieza. How would he be wished back? Not 100% sure..
      I’ve always liked Multiverse’s interpretation of King Cold and how he could transform, but I want to see an official transformation for the character in Super.
      Better yet, if not that, I want to see a bonus chapter of Future Goku’s fight with Frieza and King Cold. Your video on what could have happened was great, so if that’s how it gets told, I’d love to see it on paper!

  • @AndrewAce.
    @AndrewAce. Год назад +2

    It would be a cold day...

  • @UltimusShadow.
    @UltimusShadow. Год назад +4

    Cold felt like an after thought of Toriyama, I'd change the story. My version would be instead of landing before Goku's return I'd delay it massively. Post 16, 17 & 18 going rouge & before Cell fought Piccolo that down time I'd land them here after showing multiple scenes of the two in Space. They'd serve as a tough mid saga double boss battle I'd make them stronger than they were against Trunks. Not Golden level but with less training & like Cooler they'd transform further to the point of scaling up, now Frieza=17 & Cold=18 plus they've got better techniques & more combat experience so they'd be tough & Goku's still out of action. Piccolo would be the most powerful Z Fighter followed by Vegeta then Trunks.
    They'd start attacking Earth while being stalked by Imperfect Cell who's shadowing them since they are tearing the place up. Then Piccolo, Vegeta & Trunks show up & engage them in a tough 2 episode long battle. Cold would fall in battle first to a Vegeta & Trunks Father-Son Galick Gun then Frieza sensing his impending defeat would fly up & instantly charge a Death Ball to blow up the Planet. However Cell not wanting the Androids to be killed again takes action. Hdden in the shadows he fires off a powerful surprise Kamehameha. Frieza terrified turns around undefended with the Death Ball pointing the wrong way is vaporized by Cell.
    Cell has a badass introduction, Vegeta & Trunks are wounded & Piccolo eats the only senzu bean thus he fully recovers. Vegeta & Trunks retreat then Piccolo has his 1v1 against Cell like canon same result. Minus Vegeta & Trunks getting a Zenkai Boost the rest of the Cell Saga carries on as normal. I prefer my version.

  • @loganjohnson4625
    @loganjohnson4625 Год назад +1

    I just want to see more of King Cold

  • @Mandalore_ultimate
    @Mandalore_ultimate Год назад +3

    Such an underutilized villain

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      How?

    • @Mandalore_ultimate
      @Mandalore_ultimate Год назад +2

      @@QaamansLand He only appeared in like 2 episode and was killed off. He was stated to be stronger than Freeza by Vegeta in the anime but we didn't see much of a difference.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      When did Vegeta say that?

    • @Mandalore_ultimate
      @Mandalore_ultimate Год назад

      @@QaamansLand Vegeta sensed his power when King Cold and Freeza arrived to Earth

  • @JNIGHTification
    @JNIGHTification Год назад +4

    Let’s makes this simple. Cold was always stronger than Frieza. When he came to earth even the z fighters said that theirs a power even greater than Frieza on the ship. Frieza won’t revive his father because he knows how much more powerful he was back in the day and would be terrified if his dad discovered a golden form for himself. Dragon ball multiverse actually got it right as far as power scaling for king Cold.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      By that logic then he would have dusted Future Trunks and Future Goku?

    • @CASHMONEY138
      @CASHMONEY138 Год назад

      Put put it perfect but others are going to make up what they want and say certain things arent cannon. Frost and Cooler made it clear the 4th form is their race birth form.

  • @supersaiyangodvegtio9590
    @supersaiyangodvegtio9590 Год назад +1

    Broskeyyyy, have u checked out dragon ball deliverance yet after I sent the link to u or nahh, good vid tho good details 💜

  • @matthewgreenwood4286
    @matthewgreenwood4286 4 месяца назад

    I would love to see a multi episode arc either a straight out fight or a tournament between freezer, cooler, King, cold, and frost all fighting the z Warriors

  • @mdxque8393
    @mdxque8393 Год назад +3

    #BlackKingCold Weird enough not even Heros has given King Cold any new forms. Something else interesting is King Cold and his boys are said to be “mutants” which means his usual species aren’t as strong as he and his kin are. Again #BlackKingCold ;)

  • @True2ChainzLilWayne
    @True2ChainzLilWayne Год назад +1

    I think some unofficial guide book said Colds final form is near semi perfect cell strength if it existed.

  • @coyotestylepro1150
    @coyotestylepro1150 Год назад +3

    Cold was already at his max
    i believe he only had 2 transfirmations
    N what we saw was his final form.
    You gotta remember Frieza was a prodigy of his clan.
    Cold was more like Lord Chilled.
    Remeber Chied had no transformation.
    So for KC's final form to mimick Friezas 2nd form makes sense.
    Frieza being a prodigy had to downgrade from 4th to 3rd, 2nd and so forth

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +2

      Cooler?

    • @coyotestylepro1150
      @coyotestylepro1150 Год назад

      @@QaamansLand At this point CoolR could work but he'd have to be a genetic clone of Frieza or something, maybe a son, because t/ brother angle is played out.

  • @DaBossMn
    @DaBossMn Год назад +1

    I feel like I’ve seen this thumbnail change three times

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      Twice. The first one has a resolution too low

    • @DaBossMn
      @DaBossMn Год назад

      It happens to the best of us, but it’s all good.

  • @cc31reaper
    @cc31reaper Год назад

    Sometimes I wish qaaman wrote dragon ball

  • @jonathanyancey7901
    @jonathanyancey7901 Год назад +1

    My man, you've been on it of late, keep it coming.

  • @Blujul
    @Blujul Год назад +2

    Sounds interesting

  • @lucidmind9676
    @lucidmind9676 Год назад +2

    I call the “Future Trunks arc” in Super “The Goku Black arc” just because I grew up with the funimation dub calling the Z section before Androids showed up The Trunks arc 😂

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +1

      You really are actively commenting on each video. Appreciate it

    • @lucidmind9676
      @lucidmind9676 Год назад

      @@QaamansLand I’m a man of my word 😂, I appreciate the consistent good content

  • @dankstrikes-thejudge900
    @dankstrikes-thejudge900 Год назад +1

    8:00 woah woah wait wait hold on now...
    WHY and HOW can infant Goku breathe in the water pod?? Vegeta in Namek Saga needed a mask breather, and dont tell me prince vegeta has an inferior water pod than a lowclass saiyan like Bardock. No way.

  • @foxyblaster98
    @foxyblaster98 Год назад

    ik this is a older video but can you do a video on friezas age by the time he goes into his black form please

  • @CJJ5269
    @CJJ5269 Год назад

    Quamman uploading consistently now makes me feel young again 😂😂😂
    The golden age of dragon ball RUclips 2012-2017
    The Diamond age of Dragon Ball 2023-?

  • @greyborg3846
    @greyborg3846 Год назад

    I would actually love to see if there were still an entire race of aliens like Frieza. He could have recruited, or conscripted, any number of them to be his punching bags during his training. It would also be very cool to see them then be Frieza's new elite henchmen.

  • @LordMetalSonic1987
    @LordMetalSonic1987 Год назад +3

    I just thought about something:
    How was Goku able to beat both Frieza (who was said to be more powerful as a cyborg than he was in his 100% Full Power final form in Namek) and his father (who was said to be more powerful than Frieza himself)?
    How did Goku manage to get powerful enough to beat them both in that short amount of time???

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +6

      Zenkai + Training in Yardrat. Or he killed them SUPER FAST before they could utilize their full abilities

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Год назад +1

      @@QaamansLand which knowing Goku he wouldnt do

  • @R.E.factor
    @R.E.factor Год назад +1

    If we get a revived King Cold who trained with Freeza that would be ok. I’d still prefer Cooler, despite an explanation of his existence being poorly contrived. But remember, in a guide book about Captain Ginyu it did say he originally wanted to join the Cooler Force but ended up as Freeza’s right hand. So Cooler might be canon even though his movie story isn’t. Maybe we get the entire family in this next arc? Would make a great 3 vs 3. Goku, Vegeta and Broly vs Freeza, Cold and Cooler.

  • @luis.njr_
    @luis.njr_ Год назад

    Thank you for this!

  • @DebitAdams
    @DebitAdams Год назад

    Frieza and King Cold training together would be cool 😆 😎

  • @SenzuYamcha768
    @SenzuYamcha768 Год назад

    The difference was Cold was much more laid back on most situations and outcomes cold was less determined then Frezia was, Cold actually cared about certain aspects of things but when we look at Frezia he cares for nothing at all meaning he has nothing to loose and allows the evil in his heart access his final form much easier and also mentioning he would be stronger as he is the offspring. King Cold is strong and actually holded back as he was much more civil and intrigued

  • @irvdante
    @irvdante Год назад +3

    I personally believe Freiza is stronger because as the son from a species that reproduces A Sexually it seems he's the evolution.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      I made a mistake with the title

    • @RacingSnails64
      @RacingSnails64 Год назад

      I remember it being said in the show that Cold is "even stronger" than Frieza.
      However, I think Frieza's long surpassed him since unlocking Golden Frieza in Res F, not to mention his Black form.
      However, that also brings to mind the terrifying idea of King Cold training for once in his life just like Frieza. Golden Cold or Black Cold 😱

  • @netanyelrucker
    @netanyelrucker Год назад +1

    "King Coal"

  • @ViltrumiteIsRite99
    @ViltrumiteIsRite99 Год назад

    Mannn, I wish King Cold stayed around longer than a few episodes. It’s Frieza’s DAD, and I feel he could’ve been utilized more.
    Say Trunks kills Frieza, beats down on Cold, but he manages a quick retreat to space somehow.
    He disappears for years, then comes back when HE revives Frieza for Resurrection F.
    Saiyan Blue Goku & Vegeta vs Golden King Cold & Frieza. 🥶

  • @mayojar5264
    @mayojar5264 Год назад +2

    The Japanese dragon ball z dragon box DVD dragon book states, that king cold is in his second transformation and can transform just like Frieza.
    So at least in the anime version he can transform.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      The Future Trunks AND Future Goku would have gotten dusted then?

    • @mayojar5264
      @mayojar5264 Год назад

      @@QaamansLand narratively future trunks is stronger than king cold, since king cold was a plot device to hype up the strength of the androids, as it's supposed to be that because Frieza and king cold are inferior to trunks in power then these androids that are way stronger than trunks must be in a whole new league of power. So it doesn't matter if king cold can transform as trunks is supposed to be stronger than him narratively to hype up the androids. It's not that hard to believe given how trunks can one shot Frieza and king cold then a full power king cold could still be weaker than future trunks but give him a better fight. So yeah narratively trunks is stronger than king cold reguadless of weather he can transform or not since king cold was nothing more than a plot device to hype up the power of the androids.
      As for future Goku it's likely that he let king cold transform and defeated him anyway. But he's stronger than future trunks so what I said above applies to him as well.
      So yeah future Goku and future trunks are stronger than king cold even though he can transform for reasons I've highlighted above.

  • @_P2M_
    @_P2M_ Год назад +23

    Freeza's regular form is his "final" form. The others are downgrades. He shaped his "2nd" form after his father.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +5

      Yes I'm aware of that. Are you saying that for the other viewers?

    • @_P2M_
      @_P2M_ Год назад +5

      @@QaamansLand
      Sure.

    • @sugma69420
      @sugma69420 Месяц назад

      Exactly

  • @johnvipe
    @johnvipe Год назад

    I miss the OG "Allllllllllllllright guys." but otherwise, nice to hear from you Qaa

  • @photojenic2531
    @photojenic2531 Год назад +2

    Accidentally discovered this channel and im definately subscribing

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi Год назад +11

    King Cold vs Frezia the most unexpected family fight. King Cold is such a wasted character he has so much potential.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +1

      The title was a bit misleading. I meant if they fought together

    • @Eric-gp3hi
      @Eric-gp3hi Год назад +1

      @@QaamansLand Oh my bad If King Cold fought together with Frezia they would be a unstoppable team especially if King Cold trained for several months like Frezia and gained his own Ultimate Evolution form. The only people who could beat them would be Goku, Vegeta and Broly.

    • @Flashout3k
      @Flashout3k Год назад

      @@Eric-gp3hi and beast gohan

  • @NeroPiroman
    @NeroPiroman Год назад +1

    now that we have frost as an another example of how frieza transformations work, it is esentialy confirmed that king cold was in his first or second form

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      Then he would have dusted Trunks and Future Goku then?

    • @NeroPiroman
      @NeroPiroman Год назад

      @@QaamansLand yes, he should have easely been able to, only posible explenation is that goku (in the future)finished him off quickly before he had a chance to transform, like future trunks did

    • @dominiquerobinson8888
      @dominiquerobinson8888 Год назад +1

      That's not confirmation in this franchise where Toriyama is known to either forget information or add his own lol.

  • @babinostventertainment3265
    @babinostventertainment3265 Год назад

    I wanna see king cold when Frieza was kid and baby what cold was doing in his prime

  • @prentisscovington8676
    @prentisscovington8676 Год назад

    Qaaman I call the one in dragon ball super the return of future trunks arc or Goku black arc or zamsu arc

  • @drew6145
    @drew6145 Год назад

    Was surprised it was even being brought up lol. He got the Raditz treatment to me, important when introduced and that's it. I also just don't think it'd be good however. To me super needs to use these other universes, pantheon and characters.

  • @dankstrikes-thejudge900
    @dankstrikes-thejudge900 Год назад

    Black King Cold!!! Awesome name Lol love it. Sick City

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Год назад

      Or maybe Cold going to Platinum

  • @ivanthehighman177
    @ivanthehighman177 Год назад

    I say king cold used to have more forms, but the older he got, he was forced to go in his other forms to not risk a stroke or heart attack. This is why he did not try it against trunks, knowing that it would have likely killed him, or hell, maybe he just was so old he could not do it anymore.

  • @Friendly_G
    @Friendly_G Год назад

    Dragon ball is probably the only canon where the past really doesn't matter because of how also wierd it already is. For example, we see in the manga ,zamasu and goku black use magic like shin can use but in the anime they just didn't. _.

  • @shinsmoke
    @shinsmoke Год назад

    Black King Cold also sounds like a weed strain. 😆

  • @TerryB01
    @TerryB01 Год назад +6

    Z Fighters doomed

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +1

      First comment

    • @TerryB01
      @TerryB01 Год назад

      @@QaamansLand Didn't even need to say it myself lol

  • @sigiligus
    @sigiligus Год назад

    It’s pretty clear that Toriyama didn’t think about it. He just made up King Cold because he thought it would be funny for some reason and made him roughly as strong as Freeza. He probably just wanted to get across “a super saiyan can beat two Freeza’s at once.” He was never meant to be able to transform or have the ability to be stronger.

  • @steve810
    @steve810 Год назад +1

    Imagine the strength king cold can possess.

  • @kamahiph
    @kamahiph Год назад

    Black King Cold mixtape out now!

  • @Lightpaladin720
    @Lightpaladin720 Год назад

    Just imagine if shu didn't make the wish for money when Sorbet was gonna make the wish to bring cold back as well since they wished Frieza back then didn't know the Dragonballs can make two wishes

  • @dereckkessler
    @dereckkessler Год назад

    Well frieza does know about fusion now

  • @TheKarlyzz
    @TheKarlyzz Год назад

    0:45 its the Trunks saga.

  • @villainfeatherclover6965
    @villainfeatherclover6965 Год назад

    There is another set of dragon balls. The black star dragon balls created by the un named namekian before he split and became Kami and Piccolo. The black star dragon balls are also the one's we see in GT.

    • @bobowon5450
      @bobowon5450 2 месяца назад

      how dare you mention GT

  • @Desmuu
    @Desmuu Год назад +1

    How strong could a quarter human saiyan be? One parent halfling one parent full-saiyan?

  • @righteousrayyan2078
    @righteousrayyan2078 3 месяца назад

    I want a Dragon Ball Super movie to be made about Cooler, that way, he can become canon just like Broly. I also want for Cooler in the DBS movie to be made into a good guy that was passed over for his younger brother by their dad just because he is not evil. I would also like for him to be as powerful as Broly as well. The reason I want Cooler to be good is because so far, we've only seen evil Arcosians: Frieza, King Cold, Chilled, Frost and even Cooler in the DBZ movies. This may give the impression that Frieza's species are all inherently evil and that just seems unfair to me. We've seen good & evil Saiyans and Nameks that are good & evil. Let's see Arcosians that are good

  • @soularprimestudios5930
    @soularprimestudios5930 Год назад

    Frieza would bring his father back for either knowledge or someone to help him in his grand plan or a training partner.

  • @JackieFuckingChan
    @JackieFuckingChan Год назад +1

    King Cold's design is cool. Looks like the damn devil. That said, I don't think he's coming back. At least, I don't see Frieza wishing him back unless he needs information from him.

  • @brabnoify
    @brabnoify Год назад +1

    Im pretty sure king cold was in final form, freeza only had forms to control his power

  • @XenoFW
    @XenoFW Год назад

    If Frieza was broughting chilled as his ally, how would that go? I mean, Bardock did killed chilled but that was in an alternative timeline, The current one is still alive out there, so i doubt they'd make chilled canon just to be an ally of Frieza.

  • @KuddlesbergTheFirst
    @KuddlesbergTheFirst 6 месяцев назад

    What if there was a Tungsten Cold or Nitrogen Cooler form?

  • @AlucardNoir
    @AlucardNoir Год назад

    Black King Cold doesn't sound like a rapper name? it sound like Nat King Cole, the jazz pianist. Rapper...

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Год назад

    That would be interesting though but it would be a waste of time even though they King cold at the time was a little bit stronger than frieza

  • @ChrisDeVarro
    @ChrisDeVarro Год назад

    Bring King cold back for a movie

  • @skeletonlover3214
    @skeletonlover3214 Год назад

    Cool video

  • @auditect950
    @auditect950 Год назад

    I would be so happy if they brought him back!

  • @primetime2023
    @primetime2023 2 месяца назад

    I like the idea that King cold is not powerful enough to reach the fourth form that Frieza can and not that he can't train to obtain it but more like he's incapable of doing it before he died and so his second form was actually his strongest also he's lazy so he may have grown weaker because of that

  • @glasses685
    @glasses685 Год назад

    My only issue with bringing King Cold back is the same issue I'd have with bringing in Cooler - they need to do something to make him stand out from Frieza.
    If he's just a Frieza clone with the exact same powers and personality as Frieza (which he kind of is so far), it's boring. We don't need another Frieza running around, we already get plenty of Frieza in Super as it is. That if they can do something to differentiate King Cold and make him his own character then I'm all for it.

  • @furiousgamerxz5141
    @furiousgamerxz5141 Год назад +2

    King Cold is said to reproduce asexually meaning any children he has would be genetically identical to him (unless he has a similar ability as Demon King Piccolo where he can manipulate his children's DNA before they are born) so if Cooler and Frieza are capable of transforming than King Cold definitely can as well (it would also mean that Cooler IS a mutant like King Cold and Frieza despite XenoVerse saying otherwise) also Frieza was given the opportunity to revive King Cold (in Ressurection F) but he had denied it which makes me belive that King Cold was stronger than Frieza (before training obviously) and my theory on why King Cold didn't transform when he fought Future Trunks is because he either forgot how (because he had been in his 2nd form for to long because he hadn't met anyone strong enough to push him into transforming) or because it would take to long to transform and King Cold knew Future Trunks wouldn't give him the chance to transform.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      1. Where is your avatar picture from?
      2. The question is, if King Cold really had more forms then he would have not been so scared of Trunks.

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +1

      If Frieza is genetically identical to King Cold and his "final form" is actually his unrestricted true form, then that means that King Cold should look similar to Friezas true form, but he doesn't... that means that king Cold is already in a restrained transformed state and is capable of transformations...

    • @reptilian_geneticist
      @reptilian_geneticist Год назад +2

      We also have to remember that King Cold had no way to gauge how powerful Trunks actually was and he just saw him kill his son without even trying... and powering up to transform takes time and Trunks wasn't giving him any...

    • @furiousgamerxz5141
      @furiousgamerxz5141 Год назад

      @Qaaman if your asking where I found the picture than I can't tell you because I honestly forgot but if your asking who it is than I can tell you that it's supposed to be Ellie from TLOU (The Last of Us) Part 2. King Cold could have known that Future Trunks wouldn't give him the opportunity to transform (not to mention that it takes a while to transform) and he already knew that Future Trunks was more powerful than his 2nd form AND he knew that a 2nd Super Saiyan (Goku) was on their way to Earth so it's possible that he was just trying to buy time to transform by pretending to be scared but Future Trunks killed him before he could.

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Год назад

    I like to think Frieza wants to keep King Cold dead. Freiza is technically now King and besides,The Z Fighters as well as Beerus and Whis,he basically rules unchallanged. Why would he bring back somebody who can potentially rival him?

  • @DrBlick
    @DrBlick Год назад

    heat?

  • @Mojavekight17
    @Mojavekight17 Год назад

    Probably for a tecnique or a training method

  • @Naruku2121
    @Naruku2121 Год назад +3

    Regardless if Frieza is working with someone Cold or not. I'm just happy that there's other characters built up and hopefully get to showcase what they do besides being primarily a Goku and Vegeta duo like most of Super. Gohan and Piccolo can show case their new forms. Broly is on the side. Goten and Trunks seem to just be comic relief unfortunately but maybe towards the end of their mini-arc it could prepare them for Black Frieza.
    Think of it narratively atleast, all the surviving Saiyan remnants have to pull together to face the space tyrant and defeat Frieza once and (hopefully )for all. I'm sure even Piccolo would no doubt be down to assist given his own progression and knowing first hand the danger Frieza was to his own people as well.

  • @usuario15965
    @usuario15965 7 месяцев назад

    Freezer doesnt care about hes father since he was only created to hype up the upcoming battle with goku/trunks,so after hes killed by trunks he had no purpose

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power Год назад

    King Coolio!

  • @akiharuhino
    @akiharuhino Год назад +1

    What if that was king cold's first form and he is just an adult version of Frieza 's first form which

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      That is a beyond Brilliant comment...

    • @akiharuhino
      @akiharuhino Год назад +1

      @@QaamansLand I got a million more ... That I have been thinking about for decades ... Some stupid sounding but makes you think ... Like why doesn't Goku teach the z fighters instant transmission

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      So you are saying he is just a bigger Frieza then?

  • @metal87power
    @metal87power Год назад +1

    I just wanted peas!

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      Huh?

    • @rexcraptor2761
      @rexcraptor2761 Год назад +2

      @@QaamansLand it’s what king cold says in a clip that you show in this video

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад

      Peace lmao... I was confused. Thanks Rex

    • @rexcraptor2761
      @rexcraptor2761 Год назад

      @@QaamansLand no problem

    • @metal87power
      @metal87power Год назад

      @@rexcraptor2761 I mocked mocked King Cold's quote. xD

  • @redactedevents
    @redactedevents Год назад

    what if king cold is in fist first form and hes just fucking massive lol

  • @janodefenua4603
    @janodefenua4603 Год назад

    What about mother of frieza? We never saw her. Maybe she is the one He inherited his insane potential after. As i doubt King Cold was That strong. He was begging Trunks for mercy, If he had hidden form why not use it? That alone means He did not have any hidden transformation Otherwise he would act more confident when beaten.

  • @CJJ5269
    @CJJ5269 Год назад

    This is what Cold gets for being such a tyrant!!! I’ve seen his ruthlessness with my own eyes 👁️👁️

  • @EzBreezy750
    @EzBreezy750 Год назад +1

    I welcome Black King Cold Fifth Form 🎉

  • @jamainegardner4193
    @jamainegardner4193 Год назад

    I recently got the headcanon that Cold was in a form similar to Cooler's 5th form because why would Frieza refer to himself as the strongest in the universe when his father I'd around and most of his soldiers know of him? Frieza considering himself the strongest because he was naturally at the level King Cold maxxed out to reach would make a lot more sense as to why he's the one in charge.
    Then it would also make sense that since the Frieza Race chooses how all their forms look (besides their birth form which looks like Frieza's 4th form), Frieza in his arrogance would make his weakest two forms look like his father in mockery of the fact his son has surpassed him.

    • @furiousgamerxz5141
      @furiousgamerxz5141 Год назад

      Frieza only said he was the strongest because of arrogance despite the fact that he knew about Majin Buu and Beerus.

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 3 месяца назад +1

    if king cold would've been revived then he would've obtained a similar form to final form frieza but die to ultimate gohan, if ultimate gohan is gonna come back anytime soon, I want ultimate gohan not that cheap vegeta clone at the buu saga that they call ultimate gohan.

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 3 месяца назад

    the frost-demons

  • @DynastyZwarrior90
    @DynastyZwarrior90 Год назад +2

    He should be brought back in Resurrection F. It would be cool to see him interact with the dragon team as he didn't have that chance before. The movie would have two main villains and both Vegeta,Goku or someone else might had a chance to kill one. Beating Cold would be more satisfying than the likes of Shisami or Tagoma.

    • @QaamansLand
      @QaamansLand  Год назад +1

      A tag team battle with Goku and Vegeta vs Frieza and King Cold

  • @jasonenglish3713
    @jasonenglish3713 Год назад

    I wouldn't be surprised if he train with Frost

  • @mostcreativename1
    @mostcreativename1 Год назад

    I only want Cooler. Take it or leave it

  • @gavininman6578
    @gavininman6578 Год назад

    No you stay cooler😉

  • @orestistrelos1942
    @orestistrelos1942 Год назад

    what if goku went super saiyan in the saiyan saga

  • @winterburden
    @winterburden Год назад

    Frieza would never bring King Cold back, but Gohan might.