They would not have killed vegeta because he didn’t kill everyone like before. The only reason Krillin wanted to kill him so bad was because he killed all the other Z fighters.
Leo Bruno he did the dr gero we see isn’t human he’s Android 20 an attempt to keep geros intelligence immortalized and his hate for goku stronger than ever human gero is dead and he’s been dead for a long time Android gero however is also dead but he likely survived past the age of 130
1) the z fighters would be alive 2) goku would quickly defeat nappa 3) goku would had a hard time against vegeta......but the z fighters would probably help on order to take him out quickly!!
@@QaamansLand well in that case i can think of 2 scenarios 1: the z fighters fight them by dodging and then find their weakness ......you know cut the tails....and continue the fight!! 2: the ozarus quickly destroy them (kicks,punches, blasts, strikes in general)..... find the dragonballs and leave!!.......and then vegeta destroys the earth with 2 fingers!!
The odds are too stacked towards the Z fighters. Whenever goku is confident he always lets his opponent get a leg up. I think that goku would hold back against nappa with the hopes of letting him live to fight another day and this is where any kind of shenanigans can take place.
It's been a fat minute since I've watched myself a Qaaman video. Being that they brought me into the Dragon Ball fanbase as a whole over 5 years ago, It's great to come back. Great memories.
Because Gohan had more potential than Goku. If you're talking about when Gohan was fighting "Buutenks" then the Elder Kai ritual has been shown to take several hours. If Elder Kai tried to do that then Buu would most likely have blown up the Earth already.
As Freeza learned about dragonballs from a conversation involving Piccolo, he would probably have an expeditionary force sent to Earth and Namek at the same time. Which he'd decide to be a part of, who knows. Likely the Namekian one, since Earth is considered a backwater, out of the way planet. If Earth, they're probably doomed. If Namek, they may get forewarned by Kaio, while the password prevents Freeza from succeeding. They probably still wouldn't be able to prepare successfully, unless a lot of time passes, given Vegeta's trip took a year, and the Namek trip was a long one. Capsule tech may help, but likely not. As long as someone who has been brought back dies in the Vegeta fight though, things go as planned. And THAT is likely.
Why aren't you verified? LOL In terms of your comment, I felt it was unnecessary to discuss as the ultimate outcome would be Frieza or the Androids killing everyone.
@@PlagueOfGripes Awesome seeing your comment here on Qaaman's channel. I've never knew you watch his videos. Btw, what's your opinion of DBS Superheroes & the Granolah saga in the manga?
I'm not really liking the new Arc that's a prelude to Superheroes really much, but I'm glad other changes besides Goku & Vegeta are given attention now.
You forgot one thing... Vegeta and Nappa talked about the Dragon Balls before being beaten on Earth. Frieza already knows, and would already know about them since they talked about Piccolo before fighting, and Frieza would always want immortality. And it was shown that they know already that Namekians can do this stuff. So Frieza, would instead, possibly come to either Earth or Namek. So essentially, this what if is ruined by that fact. And the thing is, with no Frieza in Cell, he probably wouldn't be the kind of guy to go and kill everyone after taking the androids. Once he absorbs them by "surprise" and gets them, he won't feel the same need to conquer everything like Frieza. So he may as well just become a defender of Earth from otherworldly threats. Frieza is the big reason he wanted to do half of the shit he wanted to do. Dr Gero only programmed him into believing himself to be destined for greatness, and to kill Goku possibly. Though only 16 seemed to be that hell bent on it.
Unless Frieza convinced Kami it's time to fuse, since Nail said "you'd be able to beat him if you fused" and Piccolo isn't one to let him transform. So it might work out assuming that Nail didn't offer that much to Piccolo, and that he was already kind of on the Android's level, at least Android 20, with Kami.
I mean that assuming Kami is enough to put him on at least Android 20's level. It took the androids to get him to fuse, so he might at least do that for Androids 20 and 19.
@Chepe Chepe because Frieza would kill Guru directly for not telling him how to use the Dragon Balls or indirectly like he did before ( Guru died due to stress caused by Frieza killing his children on Namak ). With nameks dragon balls now stone Frieza would make a beeline for Earth. King Kai would warn Kami and the Z fighters.
The biggest change I see is instead of Frieza going to Namek he comes straight to Earth for the Dragonballs. That would be an awesome WHAT IF campaign to explore in a video game.
Just saw it and replied (mostly...). I'm usually viewing on mobile, so I don't always see responses to comments on YT. Wish you were still on Twitter bro! Looking forward to more insightful content. ~_~
I agree, except I think Bulma herself would go back in time to save Goku because she has always believed in Goku. The problem is still without knowledge of Super Saiyan, the training and boosts they received on Namek, and short two Saiyans (Vegeta and Future Trunks) they would end up dying to the Androids or eventually Cell if somehow they miraculously defeated the Androids. So besides that one thing, I see everything panning out as you stated. Nice what-if. I'm glad to see you're back and hopefully everything continues to improve for you here on out.
unless, by the time that the androids (17 and 18) showed up (or a bit earlier), Goku suggets that they can train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (HTC) so maybe they can beat the androids, but I'm not sure if they can beat Cell
@@QaamansLand IMO it depends on what Vegeta says. In Z after learning about the Namek balls he goes there for immortality, so if the Z-Fighters considered the fact that Vegeta may come back except immortal, then they would go to Namek to stop him before learning about Frieza and what not. The same basic story except Tien can probably take on someone like Jeice with a Tri Beam.
DaSaiyanTV Why would Guru Unlock Tien be OP, the potential unlocks themselves amounted to nothing in there VERY next fight against the Ginyu Force, I mean unless you mean OP compared to the other humans
wait why wouldn't Bulma travel back in time to after the saiyan attack after she failed one or twice to get the Z-warriors to train to kill the androids? They would probably even ask Kami if he could help and he could tell them about the time chamber.
She could but the point of the video is that these Z fighters would have an INSANE gap to catch without the battles on namek. Not to mention everyone else wouldn't have trained with King Kai.
Yeah your not wrong. However as long as Gohan survives like in the HOT timeline Gohan might end up going back in time when Bulma gives him the idea. She knows where Roshi and Popo are, so she could go to them in plane of some kind and tell them to take her to Gohan since they can sense energy. So then she can tell the time travel idea to Gohan and get him to play it safer for a while. If this second Gohan who had the first Bulma and maybe Gohan show up in his timeline originally might be a super saiyan. If he goes in the time chamber for two years he'd definitely be able to kill 17, 18, and 16 with some help from Goku of course.
Let’s be honest even if Goku arrived early Yamcha would’ve still been blown up by a saibaman. Either that or he would get blown up by Vegeta with his finger technique that he used on a saibaman. No matter what would happen Yamcha would still be a running joke in the dragon ball franchise.
Qaaman I’m only cruel to people I don’t like, or fictional characters I don’t like. I really don’t like Yamcha. If it’s my friends I may roast them sometimes, but mostly I’m just really nice to them.
a problem I saw in this video is concerning trunks dude you're a big dragonball fan don't you know it runs on multiverse theory? so vegeta being dead doesn't affect trunks coming or not
This scenario is actually present in Super Goku den 2 for the SNES, but in that game Piccolo jr and Tenshinhan sacrifised their lives for Gohan and Chaoz
Hey qaaman had a question for ya. Why did trunks come back to kill frieza? To my memory he said that the androids killed everyone and Goku died to a heart disease. Was it the first time to meet Goku after he went super saiyan or to stop frieza because Goku wouldn’t get there in time? I guess what I’m saying is: if the androids killed everyone it would imply that the others could hold off/beat frieza without trunks. It’s been a little while since I watched but just something that I wanted you opinion on. Thanks
Completely off topic, but I would love to see a video about what ever came about with Dragonball Online.. it's almost like when the "Dragonball Renaissance" started DBO just faded out of existence.
It would have been Yamcha's kid going back in time lmao. I'd actually like to see how that would play out. I also think the androids would be weaker here though. They're designs are based on research regarding the strongest fighters on Earth, that's not just a cell thing. I also think they'd win the initial fight with nappa and Vegeta regardless. Vegeta was panicked when he thought of the remain 3 fighters joining up with Goku. Add to the fact that Nappa was almost taken out through Piccolo's planning (if Gohan didn't bitch up) and that nappa was almost taken out again by Krillian's destructo disc... I think the 6 on one scenario would end with Nappa losing. Most of the z fighters had techniques that caught nappa off guard. A one handed tri beam got his full attention and he struggled to move under Chiaotzu's telekinesis. It wasn't the wreck fest I remembered as a kid after I watched this fight recently. And after Goku pretty much saved everyone, i think even with the inclusion of piccolo, he'd be able to convince them to let vegeta leave. Goku would probably be on his feet and not laid out and crippled by the end of the fight. And I don't see the other fighters convincing a 100% capable goku of anything.
actually they could still go to namek. Piccolo could want to go see his birth place run into friezes men, Kami then ask goku and friends to go save him, they take dr briefs ship since piccolo would have taken kamis ship. And they all train in high gravity making them all (including choizu) stronger than the gynu force.
Goku could still get super saiyan from just training like goten did bit that's very iffy cause heart virus I'm wondering what would happen if Goku Never got the heart virus could anybody win
Honestly, you could've imputed World Strongest and Tree if Might due to it fitting into this situation Also, I disagree is Nappa not using the Saibermans as well as Begeta be curious of Goku's Power. I also want to make note that Vegeta will get done kills on the Earth Defenders
Not really as I see it take place further deep into the Nsnek Saga Everybody is alive, Everybody is stronger, and the biggest fact is that Goku is strain by Kaioken x4, like World Strongest, as he can go Kaioken x10 like he did against Final Form Frieza
They don't need to go to Nanek for that event to happen. Lord Slug can't fit because it mention Namek and fits the theme of Super Saiyan Tree of Might can just fit in fine as it focus more of Goku deny his heritage theme. Also, Chichi could've just cut Gohan hair
Universe 7 and the other low-power universes would've been wiped out: - Goku is the one who thought of the Tournament of Power, but Grand Priest said that Zeno had been planning on getting rid of low-power universes anyway - In the case that the tournament still happened, Universe 7 would have lost, Jiren would have won and made a selfish wish, and all 8 universes would have been erased
Hm, Qaaman could there be a possibility with Gohans hidden power if he was to see everyone die in front of him to maybe go berserk almost like a brolly type of situation? I mean it's a stretch.. He didn't go ss2 in future trunks timeline..but, maybe because trunks was still alive, it kept him somewhat sane?
You know I was just thinking how could Goku have gotten there on time the past couple of days it seems that had Goku made it in time would that usually mean that Vegeta and Nappa arrived late ? There was talk of it not being a full year yet by Roshi DBZ Kai to Goku so they wished Goku back to life. Another theory is what if Goku intentionally fell off snake way to get out from King yemmas desk like he did earlier in the past year that would put him at the entrance to snake way like teleporting Goku could win the foot race extra faster this time in Hell. I believe the dbz films World's Strongest Tree OF Might Lord Slug are in the continiuty where Goku arrived on Time beat Nappa then Vegeta then Kills him the Z warriors help Goku kill Vegeta maybe by Krillin killing Vegeta chopping his head off or Piccolo killed him. Fascinating video. Also it is possible Bulma would still help Goku becoming healthy from the virus and train to become stronger since time travel is possible in a future timeline just not with Trunks to beat the Androids and it may not be impossible for Goku to become a Super Saiyan in the Androids arc.
He could’ve mr Popo had that magic carpet that took him(Popo) and bulma to yunzabit mountains where Kami space ship was on the other side of the planet in seconds
Funny part is the poll before this video where I voted for negative outcome. The results of the poll before the video was opposite where negative outcome had less votes than positive outcome. Thnx for the video now ppl just suddenly jump from positive to negative effect 😒. I'm not saying it's bad but, I'm just saying....😁
I'd love to see a what if, if cell had won the cell games, Wasn't his plan to go around destroying everything, just because it is weaker than him? What happens when he runs into someone stronger than him tho like the gods? Or might he get bored of destroying everything and start a Frieza like empire, seeing as he is a tool for the Red Ribbon army, conquering should be programmed into him right?
lol no one is going to read this but I decided to wrote my own "what if" for this scenario before watching the video for an unbiased opinion and it's a little different so have fun reading: Trigger event: there are two possible ways I can see this going. A: King Kai realizes he can use the Instant Transmission (even though this is filler I think) and uses it to IT Goku to Earth after being brought back. OR B: King Kai calculates the time it takes to go back through Snake Way and Goku starts running two days earlier. Goku will be very slightly weaker, but this is insignificant. Goku arrives at the battlefield and all Saibamen are easily killed. Goku would likely fight Vegeta but intervene with Nappa if he gets bad against the others, Nappa dies by Vegeta and Vegeta is later defeated. No ZFighter dies. Vegeta doesn’t come back and they do not have a reason to go to planet Namek, while Freeza and Vegeta go there. No one gets to have a wish due to not being able to speak Namekian. The Namekian race goes instinct aside from Piccolo, Vegeta would probably die against Freeza too. The earth is safe until the Androids. Whether Goku gets the heart virus or not, this doesn’t matter because the Androids will kill them all anyway because they are significantly weaker. In the assumption Goku didn’t die (whether because he didn’t get the heart virus OR because of the medicine), Goku might turn Super Saiyan when he sees his friends die, however he is still far too weak to be a threat to the Androids and he would die anyway. If, by SOME miracle, Goku and maybe Gohan, Piccolo or someone else escapes the fight against the Androids, they will very likely go to the Room of Spirit and Time (Rosat). They would all likely train two years, and in the first year Gohan probably learns Super Saiyan too. They would train a second year and end up about as strong as the Cell Arc and they would kill the Androids. Gohan would never learn Super Saiyan 2 if there was no Cell (in the case of no heart virus), nor would Cell ever be a threat if he was there (in the case of medicine: future timeline). If Piccolo died, then that means there are no Dragon Balls anymore. If he didn’t die, then the Dragon Balls would still be there and they would wish everyone back. 7 years later: events play as normal, probably. Gohan meets Videl, gets blackmailed into going into the tournament, Goku would go too, along with Piccolo and Kaioshin. Goten would be born but no Trunks, leading into Goten effortlessly winning the Juniors Division. Gohan would probably still get his energy absorbed, however he does not go Super Saiyan 2, so less energy is absorbed. Goku, Gohan and Piccolo follow Shin who follows Spopovich & Yamu, Goku manages to kill Yakon and Dabura. No Vegeta means no Majin Vegeta, so Majin Buu would never get hatched. Battle of Gods would likely never have happened because the Oracle fish(?) wouldn’t talk of the Super Saiyan God to Beerus (logically), Freeza wouldn’t come back because he never died to begin with, no Universe 6 Saga because of the lack of connection with Beerrus, Future Trunks saga can’t happen(?) and the Tournament of Power will never happen. Either Zeno destroys the 8 universes or he forgets. OUTCOME: Very likely NEGATIVE in the Androids saga, but with a miracle: POSITIVE!
I agree with the negative outcome however you overlooked the fact that regardless of vegeta's dead or alive outcome the moment freeza learned about the dragon balls he went to retrieve them to wish for immortality. The only thing having piccolo around would give freeza more options such as using namek's dragon balls or earth's. Also Vegeta's death doesn't matter in future trunk's existence to the story because future trunks came from universe 10 so if Vegeta from universe 7 dies that again doesn't really mean much to trunks other than him maybe being a little wary of working with a bunch of people that he learned killed his father in a different universe. Everything else though is pretty on point.
Cuz my dude Vegeta and Trunks arent there 😂😂 i was joking AROUND 😂😂 But tbh i would kinda find it bad because of the and Anroids, if Trunks doesnt give him the medicine its more likely (atleast to me) Bulma would be dead knowing Trunks cant protect her. I know theres more to take in but im tired and writing this at 12:47 lmao
There is also the plot point that the Androids of the Android Saga were stronger than in Trunks' timeline. Moot, but they might be *weaker* in this instance. Probably more than enough for the Vegeta-less Z-Fighters.
I don’t think the earthlings would hold out against great ape vegeta all that well Also it’d seem to be a massive oversight in the frieza force if there’s a planet where 3 warriors died and they just ignore it Frieza or friezas force had to know earth was there Bc Goku was there So I think someone would be sent to investigate
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Bulma not being a Z-Fighter should not be taken seriously. I don't care what the show tells us. They were planning on making Bulma a Z-Fighter. But they cancelled it. There's actually a picture of Bulma as a Z-Fighter. The concept art shows Bulma wearing Goku's fighting clothes.
Everything goes awry when something good happens before Goku and Frieza fights...that's pretty depressing really I hate that people say Yamcha cheated on Bulma. The only canon source is Future Trunks, who's very biased and Future Bulma was already lying about what Vegeta was like. They could've just broken up. They certainly don't act like there was an affair in the Android Saga, so I'm inclined to think they just broke up
I think if the 6 other Z fighters survived the fight with the Saibamen (likely with help from Goku) I think they could take Nappa, if they actually fought in unison like Piccolo and Krillen did.
Good vid, but the one thing I don't like about these kinds of videos is how things end up Ultimately things happen because toriyama wanted them to. Any future threat would have just been written closer to the z teams level.
You also have to consider the fact that Piccolo could use his giant form to fight the Saiyan Oozaru transformations of Vegeta and Nappa. That alone could cause a big enough distraction for the Goku and the others to cut off their tails.
And since Zeno never met Goku he would have wiped the entire universes away expect those who Gods were doing their job correctly. Berrus would've been dead and Whis deactivated, unless the Gran Priest convinces Zeno to break the chain between God and Angel.
What if chi chi still had goten in the future timeline? That means future gohan would teach future goten and trunks then both goten and trunks would have a better chance against 18 awhile gohan is fighting 17.
there's no reason to assume freeza would not have herd of the dragon balls, and there's no reason to assume some of gokus friends would not be torn apart by napa whilst he is fighting vageta, so there for they still go to namic and the timeline is sum what fixed except future trunks. there's also still no reason to assume guku dose not let vagta survive ether witch means it possible nothing changes
you stated before on other videos that without the z-fighters majin buu cannot the resurrected. to babidi minions like and pui pui and dabura are disposable. he only needs them now because he doesn't have majin buu so in a scenario with cell on earth, perfect cell + dabura and pui pui wouldn'd he be close to actually resurrecting buu. also he can travel multiple planets looking for more fighters, babidi isn't restricted to a short life span so he can gathering more energy over time if he has to.
Awesome. I miss your old What if videos. It’s what made me starting following you back in 2013
Thanks bud!
You’re what if goku and gohan fuses was the first of your video I watched
Agreed!
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They would not have killed vegeta because he didn’t kill everyone like before. The only reason Krillin wanted to kill him so bad was because he killed all the other Z fighters.
Hmmm, interesting point. It isn't bad to take this into consideration. There is a huge difference between killing one person and killing many persons.
Two uploads in two days? It must be freeza day.
Damn Krillen dies a virgin, that's just cruel.
Not true. He could have still dated Maron before the android threat.
He already did, remember when he died in the original series.
He was only a virgin because he was a monk for a long time
Leo Bruno he did the dr gero we see isn’t human he’s Android 20 an attempt to keep geros intelligence immortalized and his hate for goku stronger than ever human gero is dead and he’s been dead for a long time Android gero however is also dead but he likely survived past the age of 130
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LOL! REALLY?
@@QaamansLand *and then all the subscribers stand up*
After whis says 'yes' background music starts 😂
1) the z fighters would be alive
2) goku would quickly defeat nappa
3) goku would had a hard time against vegeta......but the z fighters would probably help on order to take him out quickly!!
@@QaamansLand well in that case i can think of 2 scenarios
1: the z fighters fight them by dodging and then find their weakness ......you know cut the tails....and continue the fight!!
2: the ozarus quickly destroy them (kicks,punches, blasts, strikes in general)..... find the dragonballs and leave!!.......and then vegeta destroys the earth with 2 fingers!!
So one is good one is bad LOL
@@QaamansLand exactly!!
Hey i also have an idea for new video
"What if raditz fought goku and piccolo at night"
The odds are too stacked towards the Z fighters. Whenever goku is confident he always lets his opponent get a leg up. I think that goku would hold back against nappa with the hopes of letting him live to fight another day and this is where any kind of shenanigans can take place.
so is more or less what happen in xenoverse
It's been a fat minute since I've watched myself a Qaaman video. Being that they brought me into the Dragon Ball fanbase as a whole over 5 years ago, It's great to come back. Great memories.
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COULDN'T ELDER KIA JUST MAKE MYSTIC GOKU EARLY WHY ? UP TO YOU
Because Gohan had more potential than Goku.
If you're talking about when Gohan was fighting "Buutenks" then the Elder Kai ritual has been shown to take several hours. If Elder Kai tried to do that then Buu would most likely have blown up the Earth already.
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As Freeza learned about dragonballs from a conversation involving Piccolo, he would probably have an expeditionary force sent to Earth and Namek at the same time. Which he'd decide to be a part of, who knows. Likely the Namekian one, since Earth is considered a backwater, out of the way planet. If Earth, they're probably doomed. If Namek, they may get forewarned by Kaio, while the password prevents Freeza from succeeding. They probably still wouldn't be able to prepare successfully, unless a lot of time passes, given Vegeta's trip took a year, and the Namek trip was a long one. Capsule tech may help, but likely not. As long as someone who has been brought back dies in the Vegeta fight though, things go as planned. And THAT is likely.
Why aren't you verified? LOL
In terms of your comment, I felt it was unnecessary to discuss as the ultimate outcome would be Frieza or the Androids killing everyone.
Oh yeah, they're totally dead either way. And being unverified just makes me more mysterious.
@@PlagueOfGripes Awesome seeing your comment here on Qaaman's channel. I've never knew you watch his videos. Btw, what's your opinion of DBS Superheroes & the Granolah saga in the manga?
I'm not really liking the new Arc that's a prelude to Superheroes really much, but I'm glad other changes besides Goku & Vegeta are given attention now.
Nice "what if"! I have missed these
Goku could of been their early if he would of jump down to hell and came out off king yemma desk
Now the heck did I miss this, you’re right!! 🤯🤯
You forgot one thing... Vegeta and Nappa talked about the Dragon Balls before being beaten on Earth. Frieza already knows, and would already know about them since they talked about Piccolo before fighting, and Frieza would always want immortality. And it was shown that they know already that Namekians can do this stuff.
So Frieza, would instead, possibly come to either Earth or Namek. So essentially, this what if is ruined by that fact.
And the thing is, with no Frieza in Cell, he probably wouldn't be the kind of guy to go and kill everyone after taking the androids. Once he absorbs them by "surprise" and gets them, he won't feel the same need to conquer everything like Frieza.
So he may as well just become a defender of Earth from otherworldly threats. Frieza is the big reason he wanted to do half of the shit he wanted to do. Dr Gero only programmed him into believing himself to be destined for greatness, and to kill Goku possibly. Though only 16 seemed to be that hell bent on it.
True but EVEN IF Frieza came to Earth, killing Piccolo or kami would automatically ruin his plans. So the overall outcome would be the same.
Unless Frieza convinced Kami it's time to fuse, since Nail said "you'd be able to beat him if you fused" and Piccolo isn't one to let him transform.
So it might work out assuming that Nail didn't offer that much to Piccolo, and that he was already kind of on the Android's level, at least Android 20, with Kami.
Yeah but he wouldn't have fused with Nail in this scenario because he would have never went to namek.
I mean that assuming Kami is enough to put him on at least Android 20's level. It took the androids to get him to fuse, so he might at least do that for Androids 20 and 19.
@Chepe Chepe because Frieza would kill Guru directly for not telling him how to use the Dragon Balls or indirectly like he did before ( Guru died due to stress caused by Frieza killing his children on Namak ). With nameks dragon balls now stone Frieza would make a beeline for Earth. King Kai would warn Kami and the Z fighters.
The biggest change I see is instead of Frieza going to Namek he comes straight to Earth for the Dragonballs. That would be an awesome WHAT IF campaign to explore in a video game.
Step-by-step logic in theoretical application; that’s why I love this man’s “What if...” videos. Great to have you around again, Q.
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Thanks bud! Did you see my comment on the trunks video?
Just saw it and replied (mostly...). I'm usually viewing on mobile, so I don't always see responses to comments on YT. Wish you were still on Twitter bro! Looking forward to more insightful content.
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I agree, except I think Bulma herself would go back in time to save Goku because she has always believed in Goku. The problem is still without knowledge of Super Saiyan, the training and boosts they received on Namek, and short two Saiyans (Vegeta and Future Trunks) they would end up dying to the Androids or eventually Cell if somehow they miraculously defeated the Androids. So besides that one thing, I see everything panning out as you stated. Nice what-if. I'm glad to see you're back and hopefully everything continues to improve for you here on out.
unless, by the time that the androids (17 and 18) showed up (or a bit earlier), Goku suggets that they can train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber (HTC) so maybe they can beat the androids, but I'm not sure if they can beat Cell
Felix Martinez Cell could be z-fighter in that timeline because Cell doesn't have frieza which made him evil
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I mean, nobody really cares if Yamcha died or not, but if they go to Namek anyways then *Guru Unlock Tien* would be OP
Would they need to go to namek though?
@@QaamansLand IMO it depends on what Vegeta says. In Z after learning about the Namek balls he goes there for immortality, so if the Z-Fighters considered the fact that Vegeta may come back except immortal, then they would go to Namek to stop him before learning about Frieza and what not. The same basic story except Tien can probably take on someone like Jeice with a Tri Beam.
DaSaiyanTV Why would Guru Unlock Tien be OP, the potential unlocks themselves amounted to nothing in there VERY next fight against the Ginyu Force, I mean unless you mean OP compared to the other humans
Anthony Garner yeah he would probably be a little weaker than Krillin so no difference
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vegeta would be dead(piccolo wouldn't allow vegeta to be left alive) so there is no reason to go to namek.
Man nothing beats a good what if video from qaaman
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wait why wouldn't Bulma travel back in time to after the saiyan attack after she failed one or twice to get the Z-warriors to train to kill the androids? They would probably even ask Kami if he could help and he could tell them about the time chamber.
She could but the point of the video is that these Z fighters would have an INSANE gap to catch without the battles on namek. Not to mention everyone else wouldn't have trained with King Kai.
Yeah your not wrong. However as long as Gohan survives like in the HOT timeline Gohan might end up going back in time when Bulma gives him the idea. She knows where Roshi and Popo are, so she could go to them in plane of some kind and tell them to take her to Gohan since they can sense energy. So then she can tell the time travel idea to Gohan and get him to play it safer for a while. If this second Gohan who had the first Bulma and maybe Gohan show up in his timeline originally might be a super saiyan. If he goes in the time chamber for two years he'd definitely be able to kill 17, 18, and 16 with some help from Goku of course.
a lot of people were unsure about the outcome.
That's fair
I'm glad super is over so we can get back to talking about the hard hitting dragon ball questions
These are more “what wouldn’t happen” as opposed to “what would.”
I'm being realistic though.
Naw I know, no diss at all my friend. I love these joints. To be fair you did label it "What If" so I'm actually out of bounds and apologize.
No, shut up
@@phlyghstaff9965 yeah biotch
It's been too long since I've seen a new Qaaman what if
This has the feel of your old videos Quinn, the music and editing.
Keep your head up, thank you for these vids.
I'm trying bud!
Qaaman I can tell, don’t do these for us. Do them for you.
Let’s be honest even if Goku arrived early Yamcha would’ve still been blown up by a saibaman. Either that or he would get blown up by Vegeta with his finger technique that he used on a saibaman. No matter what would happen Yamcha would still be a running joke in the dragon ball franchise.
You're cruel LOL
Qaaman I’m only cruel to people I don’t like, or fictional characters I don’t like. I really don’t like Yamcha. If it’s my friends I may roast them sometimes, but mostly I’m just really nice to them.
Well he easily can defeat a saibamen......but if gets cocky he will lose if the saibamen use self destruct!!
Johny Kakakakaroooto True
The guy who got fingered to death by Vegeta
Also it's good to see you back. These what-ifs take me back to when I first discovered your channel.
Back to the good old stuff welcome back.
Good what if and it's great to see you back.
a problem I saw in this video is concerning trunks
dude you're a big dragonball fan don't you know it runs on multiverse theory?
so vegeta being dead doesn't affect trunks coming or not
I'm basing it on the original timeline. In all universes no trunks could ever exist with vegeta dead.
That’s what I going to with my what if’s
Was gonna day that future trunks is from that timeline so he what if would be accurate.
@@QaamansLand Hey yo what's the soundtrack at the beginning of the video, I've been looking for it for ages
One What-If I usually wonder about is 'What if SOMEBODY, most likely Gohan, saved the Z-Gang from getting Eaten by Buu on the Lookout'?
there's the potential for Gohan to go Super Sayian after seeing an unprepared Goku get killed by the Androids.
The Great Master Of What Ifs Himself Came Back, Bitches, And With A Voice MANLIER Than Ever Before!!!
My voice? I guess I am older LOL
@@QaamansLand Uh... Ur Welcome, But I Didnt Mean By AGE... Also, Have U Watched EP60 Part 3/3 Of DBZA?
This scenario is actually present in Super Goku den 2 for the SNES, but in that game Piccolo jr and Tenshinhan sacrifised their lives for Gohan and Chaoz
Be careful with using these manga panels. Shueisha is giving copyright strikes rn for anyone using Shueisha owned manga.
That's why I use lots of other stuff in it. Thanks for watching out!
Your welcome.
Awesome to see you back
Hey qaaman had a question for ya. Why did trunks come back to kill frieza? To my memory he said that the androids killed everyone and Goku died to a heart disease. Was it the first time to meet Goku after he went super saiyan or to stop frieza because Goku wouldn’t get there in time? I guess what I’m saying is: if the androids killed everyone it would imply that the others could hold off/beat frieza without trunks.
It’s been a little while since I watched but just something that I wanted you opinion on.
Thanks
No problem. Trunks didn't know Goku could help fast enough.
Completely off topic, but I would love to see a video about what ever came about with Dragonball Online.. it's almost like when the "Dragonball Renaissance" started DBO just faded out of existence.
It would have been Yamcha's kid going back in time lmao. I'd actually like to see how that would play out. I also think the androids would be weaker here though. They're designs are based on research regarding the strongest fighters on Earth, that's not just a cell thing. I also think they'd win the initial fight with nappa and Vegeta regardless. Vegeta was panicked when he thought of the remain 3 fighters joining up with Goku. Add to the fact that Nappa was almost taken out through Piccolo's planning (if Gohan didn't bitch up) and that nappa was almost taken out again by Krillian's destructo disc... I think the 6 on one scenario would end with Nappa losing. Most of the z fighters had techniques that caught nappa off guard. A one handed tri beam got his full attention and he struggled to move under Chiaotzu's telekinesis. It wasn't the wreck fest I remembered as a kid after I watched this fight recently. And after Goku pretty much saved everyone, i think even with the inclusion of piccolo, he'd be able to convince them to let vegeta leave. Goku would probably be on his feet and not laid out and crippled by the end of the fight. And I don't see the other fighters convincing a 100% capable goku of anything.
I liked this what if, makes you think, good job!
Haven't seen you in A LONG TIME lol
Where the hell did this guy go for a while
LOOOOONG STORY.
tell usssss in a video
It's too negative bud. I want all positivity.
oh SHIT, fuck that then
@@QaamansLand It's alright. We will support you no matter what! 😁👍🏾
Crazy how I was in 6th grade when u made ur first what if vid and now I’m a senior in high school
THAT'S CRAZY!
so we can also say goku made the best call in his life letting vegeta say sorry
My favorite Dragon Ball RUclipsr is back!!! No offense Geekdom101
This is a very good what if thank you.
actually they could still go to namek.
Piccolo could want to go see his birth place run into friezes men, Kami then ask goku and friends to go save him, they take dr briefs ship since piccolo would have taken kamis ship. And they all train in high gravity making them all (including choizu) stronger than the gynu force.
and let's not forget the fact, that Piccolo has a Giant form as well.
Goku could still get super saiyan from just training like goten did bit that's very iffy cause heart virus I'm wondering what would happen if Goku Never got the heart virus could anybody win
Honestly, you could've imputed World Strongest and Tree if Might due to it fitting into this situation
Also, I disagree is Nappa not using the Saibermans as well as Begeta be curious of Goku's Power. I also want to make note that Vegeta will get done kills on the Earth Defenders
Why Tree of Might? I understand world's strongest but Tree of Might is weird.
Not really as I see it take place further deep into the Nsnek Saga
Everybody is alive, Everybody is stronger, and the biggest fact is that Goku is strain by Kaioken x4, like World Strongest, as he can go Kaioken x10 like he did against Final Form Frieza
True but they wouldn't need to go to namek yet.
They don't need to go to Nanek for that event to happen. Lord Slug can't fit because it mention Namek and fits the theme of Super Saiyan
Tree of Might can just fit in fine as it focus more of Goku deny his heritage theme. Also, Chichi could've just cut Gohan hair
Tree of might can't fit in, because between Raditz and Vegeta/Nappa Goku was dead. Then he was restoring while Gohan, Krillin and Bulma go to Namek
Damn man it feels great to be getting Qaaman vids.
Thanks
Thanks for staying around for so long!
I don't comment much but great to have you back man... Maybe another video tomorrow..?
Yep!
@@QaamansLand Thanks for the reply brother one love from San Antonio love the content always ...
Universe 7 and the other low-power universes would've been wiped out:
- Goku is the one who thought of the Tournament of Power, but Grand Priest said that Zeno had been planning on getting rid of low-power universes anyway
- In the case that the tournament still happened, Universe 7 would have lost, Jiren would have won and made a selfish wish, and all 8 universes would have been erased
I feel like the only way Goku would get there early would be if king kai taught him the instant transmission
Hm, Qaaman could there be a possibility with Gohans hidden power if he was to see everyone die in front of him to maybe go berserk almost like a brolly type of situation? I mean it's a stretch.. He didn't go ss2 in future trunks timeline..but, maybe because trunks was still alive, it kept him somewhat sane?
You know I was just thinking how could Goku have gotten there on time the past couple of days it seems that had Goku made it in time would that usually mean that Vegeta and Nappa arrived late ? There was talk of it not being a full year yet by Roshi DBZ Kai to Goku so they wished Goku back to life. Another theory is what if Goku intentionally fell off snake way to get out from King yemmas desk like he did earlier in the past year that would put him at the entrance to snake way like teleporting Goku could win the foot race extra faster this time in Hell. I believe the dbz films World's Strongest Tree OF Might Lord Slug are in the continiuty where Goku arrived on Time beat Nappa then Vegeta then Kills him the Z warriors help Goku kill Vegeta maybe by Krillin killing Vegeta chopping his head off or Piccolo killed him. Fascinating video. Also it is possible Bulma would still help Goku becoming healthy from the virus and train to become stronger since time travel is possible in a future timeline just not with Trunks to beat the Androids and it may not be impossible for Goku to become a Super Saiyan in the Androids arc.
He could’ve mr Popo had that magic carpet that took him(Popo) and bulma to yunzabit mountains where Kami space ship was on the other side of the planet in seconds
Funny part is the poll before this video where I voted for negative outcome. The results of the poll before the video was opposite where negative outcome had less votes than positive outcome. Thnx for the video now ppl just suddenly jump from positive to negative effect 😒. I'm not saying it's bad but, I'm just saying....😁
I'd love to see a what if, if cell had won the cell games, Wasn't his plan to go around destroying everything, just because it is weaker than him? What happens when he runs into someone stronger than him tho like the gods? Or might he get bored of destroying everything and start a Frieza like empire, seeing as he is a tool for the Red Ribbon army, conquering should be programmed into him right?
All this would happen just because he was on time, so crazy how one small thing can change everything.
lol no one is going to read this but I decided to wrote my own "what if" for this scenario before watching the video for an unbiased opinion and it's a little different so have fun reading:
Trigger event: there are two possible ways I can see this going.
A: King Kai realizes he can use the Instant Transmission (even though this is filler I think) and uses it to IT Goku to Earth after being brought back.
OR
B: King Kai calculates the time it takes to go back through Snake Way and Goku starts running two days earlier. Goku will be very slightly weaker, but this is insignificant.
Goku arrives at the battlefield and all Saibamen are easily killed. Goku would likely fight Vegeta but intervene with Nappa if he gets bad against the others, Nappa dies by Vegeta and Vegeta is later defeated. No ZFighter dies.
Vegeta doesn’t come back and they do not have a reason to go to planet Namek, while Freeza and Vegeta go there. No one gets to have a wish due to not being able to speak Namekian. The Namekian race goes instinct aside from Piccolo, Vegeta would probably die against Freeza too.
The earth is safe until the Androids. Whether Goku gets the heart virus or not, this doesn’t matter because the Androids will kill them all anyway because they are significantly weaker. In the assumption Goku didn’t die (whether because he didn’t get the heart virus OR because of the medicine), Goku might turn Super Saiyan when he sees his friends die, however he is still far too weak to be a threat to the Androids and he would die anyway. If, by SOME miracle, Goku and maybe Gohan, Piccolo or someone else escapes the fight against the Androids, they will very likely go to the Room of Spirit and Time (Rosat).
They would all likely train two years, and in the first year Gohan probably learns Super Saiyan too. They would train a second year and end up about as strong as the Cell Arc and they would kill the Androids. Gohan would never learn Super Saiyan 2 if there was no Cell (in the case of no heart virus), nor would Cell ever be a threat if he was there (in the case of medicine: future timeline). If Piccolo died, then that means there are no Dragon Balls anymore. If he didn’t die, then the Dragon Balls would still be there and they would wish everyone back.
7 years later: events play as normal, probably. Gohan meets Videl, gets blackmailed into going into the tournament, Goku would go too, along with Piccolo and Kaioshin. Goten would be born but no Trunks, leading into Goten effortlessly winning the Juniors Division. Gohan would probably still get his energy absorbed, however he does not go Super Saiyan 2, so less energy is absorbed. Goku, Gohan and Piccolo follow Shin who follows Spopovich & Yamu, Goku manages to kill Yakon and Dabura. No Vegeta means no Majin Vegeta, so Majin Buu would never get hatched.
Battle of Gods would likely never have happened because the Oracle fish(?) wouldn’t talk of the Super Saiyan God to Beerus (logically), Freeza wouldn’t come back because he never died to begin with, no Universe 6 Saga because of the lack of connection with Beerrus, Future Trunks saga can’t happen(?) and the Tournament of Power will never happen. Either Zeno destroys the 8 universes or he forgets.
OUTCOME: Very likely NEGATIVE in the Androids saga, but with a miracle: POSITIVE!
I agree with the negative outcome however you overlooked the fact that regardless of vegeta's dead or alive outcome the moment freeza learned about the dragon balls he went to retrieve them to wish for immortality. The only thing having piccolo around would give freeza more options such as using namek's dragon balls or earth's. Also Vegeta's death doesn't matter in future trunk's existence to the story because future trunks came from universe 10 so if Vegeta from universe 7 dies that again doesn't really mean much to trunks other than him maybe being a little wary of working with a bunch of people that he learned killed his father in a different universe. Everything else though is pretty on point.
I KNEW IT WAS NEGATIVE
Curious. How so? What were your key reasons?
Cuz my dude Vegeta and Trunks arent there 😂😂 i was joking AROUND 😂😂
But tbh i would kinda find it bad because of the and
Anroids, if Trunks doesnt give him the medicine its more likely (atleast to me) Bulma would be dead knowing Trunks cant protect her.
I know theres more to take in but im tired and writing this at 12:47 lmao
Brah I requested this video many years ago lol
I haven't seen you in awhile lol
your channel is so fun
earths balls ???I DINT KNOW THAT EARTH HAS BALLS IM TELLING MY TEACHER THAT
You and blackenfist is still the greatest u two started this all keep it going and u always have nice videos as always
Thanks bud!
There is also the plot point that the Androids of the Android Saga were stronger than in Trunks' timeline.
Moot, but they might be *weaker* in this instance. Probably more than enough for the Vegeta-less Z-Fighters.
Another upload?! He’s back baby!
I don’t think the earthlings would hold out against great ape vegeta all that well
Also it’d seem to be a massive oversight in the frieza force if there’s a planet where 3 warriors died and they just ignore it
Frieza or friezas force had to know earth was there Bc Goku was there
So I think someone would be sent to investigate
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What if the sayians listened to Bardock and an army of Sayians transformed into their Ozaru form and blasted Freeza’s ship in a surprise attack?
Bulma not being a Z-Fighter should not be taken seriously. I don't care what the show tells us. They were planning on making Bulma a Z-Fighter. But they cancelled it. There's actually a picture of Bulma as a Z-Fighter. The concept art shows Bulma wearing Goku's fighting clothes.
Holy crap two awesome theories in two days? Awesome! Keep up the great work.
What if Goku still had his power pole?
Make it happen.
Point is,
Vegeta is fucked.
Along with the world.
Everything goes awry when something good happens before Goku and Frieza fights...that's pretty depressing really
I hate that people say Yamcha cheated on Bulma. The only canon source is Future Trunks, who's very biased and Future Bulma was already lying about what Vegeta was like. They could've just broken up. They certainly don't act like there was an affair in the Android Saga, so I'm inclined to think they just broke up
Hey Qaaman's Back I've missed you man and I've missed What If's too.
Do a video on what if Goku never got the heart virus or what if Goku killed gero back in dragon ball
I think if the 6 other Z fighters survived the fight with the Saibamen (likely with help from Goku) I think they could take Nappa, if they actually fought in unison like Piccolo and Krillen did.
Qaaman. Hows life bro haven’t heard of u since
I love your what ifs
Nice Q
I think they’ll still train no matter what even if there’s no threat cause there saiyans just saying but good video
Good vid, but the one thing I don't like about these kinds of videos is how things end up
Ultimately things happen because toriyama wanted them to.
Any future threat would have just been written closer to the z teams level.
True but it's all fun
Qaaman
I know.
I'm not hating or anything.
I enjoyed the video despite my oppinion.
Just saying.
Qaaman, the type of dude that won’t upload in a while, but when he does he produces masterpieces. So all in all it’s all worth the wait in the end. 🤗
4:57 that picture tho
If only old qaaman knew the other timelines don’t change💀
Huh?
Cell would have been weaker because they're weaker because he has their cells
You also have to consider the fact that Piccolo could use his giant form to fight the Saiyan Oozaru transformations of Vegeta and Nappa. That alone could cause a big enough distraction for the Goku and the others to cut off their tails.
But why would they kill vegeta when none of their friends are dead?
Because he is evil and tried to kill all of them?
Then the tree of might movie could feasibly happen
Nobody could have assited goku against vegeta and he would have lost
Also wrong because trunks was from a different time line. Like, the androids in trunks time were much weaker
Nope. Impossible. This event takes place early so none of the alternate timelines could happen as this would be the ORIGINAL timeline.
My guy was resurrected with the Dragon Balls! Glad to see you here again!
And since Zeno never met Goku he would have wiped the entire universes away expect those who Gods were doing their job correctly. Berrus would've been dead and Whis deactivated, unless the Gran Priest convinces Zeno to break the chain between God and Angel.
What if chi chi still had goten in the future timeline? That means future gohan would teach future goten and trunks then both goten and trunks would have a better chance against 18 awhile gohan is fighting 17.
What if qaamansland uploaded videos every week?
there's no reason to assume freeza would not have herd of the dragon balls, and there's no reason to assume some of gokus friends would not be torn apart by napa whilst he is fighting vageta, so there for they still go to namic and the timeline is sum what fixed except future trunks. there's also still no reason to assume guku dose not let vagta survive ether witch means it possible nothing changes
What if Goten was born before Gohan
you stated before on other videos that without the z-fighters majin buu cannot the resurrected. to babidi minions like and pui pui and dabura are disposable. he only needs them now because he doesn't have majin buu
so in a scenario with cell on earth, perfect cell + dabura and pui pui wouldn'd he be close to actually resurrecting buu. also he can travel multiple planets looking for more fighters, babidi isn't restricted to a short life span so he can gathering more energy over time if he has to.