hello Kaioshin Curt, been recently watching all your videos and it's great, I like how you part your perspective to us. I do have a favor of "what if" about Yamcha.. like if he had been in Tournament of Power.. or anything related to Yamcha. Thank you in advance if you'll make a video of it. :)
One espert information for you: saiyan not only have zenkai boost but...the sayan power... this makes their power increase when fighting stronger opponents...nappa catches up with goku....must use kaio ken to defeat him. vegeta reaches goku kaio ken x3....broly boosts....bardack overcomes gas...etc etc so nappa zenkai boost to 10K to 14 k ;) one beast.....literally beast with ozaru form
Actually Nappa had a power level of 8,000, possibly over it (like Goku). The misconception of Nappa’s power level being only 5k comes from a guide that had no idea what they’re talking about. They thought Nappa’s power level only caps out at 4k because Suppressed Goku (who had a power level of 5k) blitzed Nappa, but fail to take into account that Nappa proceeds to power up two more times, with both Goku and Vegeta stating that once Nappa focused on the fight completely, he was equal to base Goku, with Goku stating that it could’ve taken forever for him to beat Nappa in base. It also makes no sense for Nappa to only have a power level of 5k when Goku required kaioken to catch up to him.
I rather think it might be interesting to see Nappa and Raditz adjust to being with the Z Fighters. I mean considering Vegeta was almost as evil as Frieza and committed multiple genocides from childhood and became good. It's possible to think Raditz and Nappa could do the same, especially as Nappa originally considered fostering a new Saiyan Empire by siring many half blood saiyans on Earth, though Vegeta insisted they wipe out all life on the planet instead as the offspring might become more powerful than them.
A part to disagree with is the claiming Nappa lacks raw talent, individuality, or intelligence. Proven wrong by the show itself, where if composed, is able to match Goku's own might--with the low-class Saiyan acknowledging those feats. Especially when in _Dragon Ball FighterZ_ this compliment is reinforced by word of Goku's first teacher, Master Roshi! Bandai Namco didn't write a special interaction such as this without context; it just confirms Nappa power is practically unmatched but lacks the guidance to untap it. And... cause Toriyama doesn't know how to write villain reforms all that well save for Piccolo and of course Vegeta.
I mean my thoughts of why Nappa was killed was a good reason. His spine was broken and he was paralyzed if I remember correctly. So I'm pretty sure Vegeta saw it as mercy to some degree
#enders I feel like you powerlevels are a pretty realistic estimate. I was thinking before you got into the numbers that nappa should be close to vegeta by the time he and too I got to namek because of the zenkai boost and all the training he did with too I on the way. I realize that he was way outclassed by vegeta on earth but he would have had that boost from his fight with you plus the intense training that vegeta did not have... So gap closes lol... Also dude your channel blew up congrats on 4.5k man
Yes I tried to be realistic but the numbers aren't perfect and there's lot of room to debate. That's what it's all about. Thanks a lot mate :) this growth came out of nowhere lol
Honestly i feel like if he didn't kill Nappa, he would have played more of a comedy role for the show more then someone who would fight much, or basically just be another piccolo, krillin, tien ETC. Basically a side character but i do believe he would have became a good guy since he respects vegeta
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@@KaioshinCurt i seen other videos about "what if vegeta never killed nappa" and they was all ok but your is perfect story telling and how the story is
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#Enders Good video Kaioshin Curt! While Nappa would not be as strong as Goku or Vegeta, his one ability that could help him make it would be his durability. Despite, his power level it appears he has a very high durability, as he can take a beaten more so than normal. Just me two cents. What do you think?
Thanks my mate! Yes that's something I should have mentioned thanks for bringing up - oh yes Goku commented how he was tough. Dang it! Would have been a great point. Kudos to you mate. This durability would have helped him against Jeice and Burter no doubt.
You would have to take into account nappa actually training with goku, I think Nappa would actually increase his PL more than estimated. Saiyan growth through combat is exponential, and not just through zenkai. Any combat situation where they are being pushed against a wall is one where they can and will get stronger. I don't think Nappa would reach Goku's level in that time, but he would be within 20k - 30k of Goku easily. We really do not know a great deal about Nappa, outside of being a middle class saiyan and Vegeta's Attendant. There's no actual precedent for what Nappa could do with actual dedicated training.
Always happy to see another video from you man. That growth is already insane! Love these what if's videos and I really enjoyed your last one on the subject of nappa
Ikr it's been a crazy week! Thanks, just felt it went along with the last one. Nappa could have been amazing if he did the 100G training with Goku, then got more zenkais too on Namek
@@KaioshinCurt Right? Idk what it is about nappa and raditz but they're always so interesting to think about if they had simply been allowed to live or some back to life! Btw, #Enders, I hadn't quite made it to the end before commenting haha
Nappa is an interesting character, I think if he was spared he would’ve only been killed off in the next arc, it could be a Goku and Merus situation where his death triggers super saiyan, like krillins death did. The trip to namek was 3 months so there would be time for Goku to “work his magic”. He became good friends with Merus and his death helped trigger MUI after only 6 months of training and it wasn’t even the training that got him to that level so it’s a possibility.
I really hope you do a remake of the what if. Because first of all Napa had to at least have a power level of 8,000 in order for any of his attacks to even threatened Goku life because it is stated that if you have a power of a double then your opponent then you're literally able to negate their attacks completely that's not what happened in Canon. So Nappa had to at least have a power level of 8,000 which would explain why he freaked out that Goku had a power level over 8000 which was exactly 8,320 more than enough power to have Nappa lose and panic. And technically speaking is Vegeta still had its tail is power level actually would have been 36,000 but because he lost it lost quite a bit of its power 1.5% of his power wicked why he only had a 24,000 power level.
and if nappa's power level was 7,500 and that doubled it would be 15,000 and then with the training it would be 150,000 and then increased that by 50% so nappa's power level was 225,000 and Goku would still have a power level of 135,000 but because he can use Kaio-ken he can become 270,000
i'm glad that you made a quick, to the point, and reasonable what-if as opposed to the 2 hour long glorified fan-fics other people make. it's a breath of fresh air.
I like the one where nappa stays on earth and heals at the hospital. in my opinion nappa could have been something similar to yajiroobee, like not close to the goku gang and nkt as strong but still around when realy needed. but maybe he could learn more techniques, he was part of the saiyan elite. cool and sneaky way to include jesus here, jesus rewards us with his presence and grace cause we speak of him. great vid.
Good analysis mate! I agree it could have worked out for Nappa. Tori had other ideas, so we're left to imagine. Thanks for encouraging me, I will speak of Jesus, he is worthy of all honour
Think if Nappa would survived become friends with Goku maybe his body guard like he did with Vegeta when he was younger in the movie Bardok the the father of goku movie then Goku teaches Nappa every thing that he was taught by King Kai and most of all Master Roshie.They would both team up against Frieza and Vegeta. Vegeta would of still stay loyal to Frieza.
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Nappa would probably slow Goku down if they did gravity training together. Goku accelerated his gravity training an incredible amount by pushing his body passed its limits. Nappa would not be able to keep up with Goku’s work and the number of zenkais he keeps getting. Goku would either have to leave Nappa behind in the training, or Goku would have to slow down his own training so Nappa doesn’t die under 100x gravity.
I doubt that, given that not was already use to 10gs and like Goku and Piccalo fought with weighted armor. So they would both start at the same level of gravity and with Goku being stronger would aid Nappa in growing stronger himself.
I would love to see this video topic continued! It sounds so awesome. Just think of what would happen if Nappa survived and got redemption 🤔 Maybe even do one like this for Raditz too?#ENDERS
Nappa was dead weight. He was paralyzed and weak. Even if Vegeta didn’t kill him Frieza would have likely had. I believe Vegeta was the only elite of them.
I feel like Nappa would have probably chased after Vegeta instead of fighting with captain ginyu. Maybe looking for revenge. After all vegeta would’ve left him for dead on earth in this scenario. Because Sayains are very prideful I doubt nappa would’ve been buddy buddy with goku either. After all it took Vegeta till the buu saga to accept the mighty kakarrot lol so Nappa would’ve been willing to abandon Goku the first chance he got and maybe would’ve had his own plan for the Dragon Balls
I did some calculations of my own and Vegeta actually became weaker when he lost his tail he became 1.5 times weaker which means he had a power level of 12,000 and then when he recovered he doubled his power if that's the case then Nappa who did not lose his tail would be at a power level 8000 when he healed you also have to remember that Goku had a power level 8,320 when he first fought Nappa and Goku getting a zenkai when he healed giving him a power level of 9,000 and Goku had a power level of 90,000 when he made it to Namek and Goku actually used a Kaio-ken X 2 against Captain Ginyu so Nappa should have a power level of 120,000 and Goku should have a power level of 135,000 and this is only if Nappa's power level was only 4,000 even though supposably his full power is 7,500 when fighting Goku in the second round because he fights Goku two times
@@johndewberryiii9925 Goku only use gravity training on the ship he never used Kaio-Ken on the ship because the ship definitely would have broke otherwise. lol
Nappa would’ve wished back and wished to earth after namek he would’ve trained during the 3 years untill the androids arrived from there anything would’ve been possible
Wait, by the logic of the Kaioken, Goku originally had 90k since he went up to 180k What would be Goku's pl then? Just 132k instead? What about Nappa's since he was training with someone stronger?
idk, I cant see nappa turning good that quickly. Hed could prob stay on earth revaluate his life and become another piccolo or 17 and help when needed. Eventually becoming another z fighter pushed to the side.
i still think if nappa went ssj3 he would get a long mustache or grow a beard and also i believe his tail would grow too along with his hair but thats just my own headcanon it would be cool if a ssj3 is tail grew as it would actually be an extra use in battle
Vegeta takes nappa with him when he leaves earth and when he goes to namek. Vegeta thinks even this dolt maybe useful. Cui shows up and challenges Vegeta. Vegeta responds I don't think you can handle nappa. Nappa then fights cui with cui only slightly stronger. Cui pulls out a couple of dirty moves and beats nappa. Cui proceeds to keep beating the already beaten nappa. Vegeta then blast cui into space dust. And nappa says if you could have done that so easily why did you let him keep beating me? Vegeta replies because it was funny! And it will make you stronger. This second statement was an after thought. The things going on with krillin and Gohan are currently the same with the scouters being destroyed, and them saving dende. The earthlings escape dodoria and dodoria encounters Vegeta and a slightly recovered and stronger nappa. Dodoria then says hand over those scouters and I'll let you go. Vegeta says sure and takes his off. Nappa follows vegeta's lead. Vegeta and nappa stick their hands out like they are going to give him them. As dodoria goes to grab them they drop them on the ground and stomp on them. Dodoria shrikes and vegeta whispers nappa handle this. And nappa yells but I'm still recovering from the other guy! And dodoria turns and yells why did you do that! Vegeta replies because they are worth so much more to you than me. And then reiterates with a much more threatening voice nappa handle this! Nappa charges dodoria and now he is somewhat stronger than dodoria from his fight with Cui. But he is still not fully recovered from the last fight so dodoria gets the upper hand and starts beating nappa severely. After a while Vegeta yells that's enough and dodoria says why you let me do that? Napa yelled why!, From the ground. Vegeta simply laughed and said cause it was funny! And it'll make him stronger. Again like an after thought. Dodoria then smirked and said I doubt you'll do any better than your friend. Vegeta then smirked and said what did your scouter say when Cui died. Dodoria frowned and thought back which was hard for him and the look of horror amused Vegeta. That can't be possible dodoria screamed! Vegeta still smirking said I'm stronger than you and proceeded to break dodoria's arms. Dodoria wailed please don't kill me, I'll tell you what really happened to planet Vegeta. Nappa barely able to get up says it was hit by a meteor. Vegeta says hurry up and speak and dodoria tells him how frieza did it and starts to fly away. Vegeta waits a second so he thinks he'll get away then blasts him out the air. Next they run into zarbon and nappa is as strong as Vegeta from the two zenkais since arriving. But still greatly injured. They were on the way to try to sneak out a healing chambers from frieza's ship for nappa. So Vegeta says nappa I got this. And nappa sighs finally. Vegeta then proceeds to wail on zarbon. Zarbon then goes on to talk about how his true form is hidious. Nappa yells yawn. Vegeta mearly smirks and says let's have it then. Zarbon then transforms and wrecks Vegeta. Nappa yells oh shit as Vegeta is piledrived. Zarbon then knocks nappa out next as well and leaves them both in the water. The conversation between zarbon and frieza goes the same with him telling him to retrieve the now two sayians. Zarbon comes back with both and places them both in healing chambers. Appule says not so tough now to vegeta's tank right as Vegeta wakes up to hear it. Vegeta and nappa blast open their healing chambers and again steal the dragon balls. Nappa takes the time to leave an insulting note to frieza on the way out. Frieza calls the ginyu force and again zarbon finds the two sayians right next to krillin. Krillin was like damn I knew nappa was coming but Vegeta too. Nappa ask if he could handle zarbon and vegeta says make it quick. Zarbon transforms and nappa quickly cuts his arm off with a single strike. Krillin says I thought he beat you a short while ago. Nappa then finishes zarbon with a ki wave the same way Vegeta did. Vegeta tells krillin that sayians get stronger everytime they lose a fight and krillin says that's incredibly unfair. Vegeta then says as I'm in such a good mood I'll spare you if you hand over the dragon ball. He then goes on being the proud owner of all seven makes me very happy. Krillin gives him the ball. Gohan having already sensed nappa which they couldn't Vegeta didn't take his time getting the dragon ball. Instead he rushed and made much better time. He also hid better on the way back. Once Vegeta passed him by he hurried back to krillin which was the plan assuming krillin lived. Gohan got there much faster as a result allowing them to leave swiftly and immediately. Vegeta and nappa so elated thinking they got all seven didn't even notice Gohan flying full speed as they happily told frieza jokes to one another. ( Pick up where we left off last time on dragon ball z!)
Well Nappa would have either survived Namek or been brought back afterwords if he formed a friendship with Goku. And going by the likely power increase he would have had he would not reach Super Saiyan yet, nor would he have reached it by the Android Saga though his power would probably be on par with Piccolo's at the beginning of the Saga. By the time of the Cell games, I can see him reaching regular Super Saiyan and maybe Super Saiyan 2 by Buu if he kept up his training in the seven years. In the end he would probably fill a role similar to Piccolo does as a warrior who still sees action but is behind the two main Saiyans.
I'm not sure plot #2 could start off that way so easily, I find it hard to believe Nappa would ignore the artificial moon Vegeta creates, thus he would transform into an oozaru. The simple solution is that Nappa had fallen unconscious during that time, but it would seem a bit too convenient IMO.
Well, he would be crippled by that point. So, in addition to being recently crippled, a sudden transformation, one as seemingly painful as the Oozaru transformation, might outright kill Nappa, from the shock.
I don’t know where it’s said that Nappa had a power level of 42,000 but I don’t think that’s true. He was as strong as Goku when he wasn’t using the Kaioken so he had to have been the same power level as Goku. And since Goku and Nappa were both badly beaten after the Saiyan Saga then I could imagine that their power levels would still be on par with each other after their Zenkais and they would only continue to be on equal footing since they would be training together, except for when Goku uses the Kaioken. I’m not an expert on power levels though.
I thought the same thing even if he survived nappa wouldnt be around for long however the daishenzuu a dbz guide lists nappa at 7500, a little too close for me but there us no way nappas full power is 4000, if it was base goku would one shit him
Nappa's max power was definitely 7500, it actually shows when Nappa took on Goku in the 2nd round after he regained his focus and powered up he was suddenly a full on challenge to Goku to the point they were both fighting evenly, Goku was then amazed that Nappa was nowhere near as weak as he thought and even said the fight could drag on for a really long time if he doesn't use the kaioken on him, so Nappa at his best was in fact roughly on par with Goku.
i gave up on both spelling and pronunciation of DB names long ago amigo, since I am hispanic latino and translations are tough. lets just focus on DBZ and overlook little details.
and because Nappa still has a tail he can become a great ape and become 10 times stronger so his power would be 2,250,000 and that's when they land on Planet Namek with a Zenkai on Planet Namek Nappa could possibly become 10 or 20 times stronger and his power would be 2,250,000 and his power would be 22,500,000 in his great ape form or his power would be 4,500,000 and his power would be 45,000,000 in his great ape form
Why would nappa die against ginyu goku? When gohan and krillin was whooping ginyu goku for the most part. Even as Ginyu goku was slightly getting used to the body and just slightly turned the tables, Nappa would still be significantly stronger.
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hello Kaioshin Curt, been recently watching all your videos and it's great, I like how you part your perspective to us.
I do have a favor of "what if" about Yamcha.. like if he had been in Tournament of Power.. or anything related to Yamcha.
Thank you in advance if you'll make a video of it. :)
SHUT UP
You forget, Nappa still had his tail, so he could’ve become an Oozaru.
One espert information for you:
saiyan not only have zenkai boost but...the sayan power...
this makes their power increase when fighting stronger opponents...nappa catches up with goku....must use kaio ken to defeat him. vegeta reaches goku kaio ken x3....broly boosts....bardack overcomes gas...etc etc so nappa zenkai boost to 10K to 14 k ;) one beast.....literally beast with ozaru form
Actually Nappa had a power level of 8,000, possibly over it (like Goku). The misconception of Nappa’s power level being only 5k comes from a guide that had no idea what they’re talking about. They thought Nappa’s power level only caps out at 4k because Suppressed Goku (who had a power level of 5k) blitzed Nappa, but fail to take into account that Nappa proceeds to power up two more times, with both Goku and Vegeta stating that once Nappa focused on the fight completely, he was equal to base Goku, with Goku stating that it could’ve taken forever for him to beat Nappa in base. It also makes no sense for Nappa to only have a power level of 5k when Goku required kaioken to catch up to him.
Nappa stays in a hospital on earth... where Launch just so happens to be working as a nurse
3:54 ah yes, prince of all *signs,* what a high bar.
I rather think it might be interesting to see Nappa and Raditz adjust to being with the Z Fighters. I mean considering Vegeta was almost as evil as Frieza and committed multiple genocides from childhood and became good. It's possible to think Raditz and Nappa could do the same, especially as Nappa originally considered fostering a new Saiyan Empire by siring many half blood saiyans on Earth, though Vegeta insisted they wipe out all life on the planet instead as the offspring might become more powerful than them.
Love your neighbor as yourself.
Nappa: Hey Vegeta..... There's something strange in your neighborhood guess who it is?
*Vegeta Rages*
Ghost Nappa!
I love how you apply jesus’ teachings to these videos
And the 12 apostles
I try
I don't. I see it as shoving a religion, that I don't follow down my throat, when in reality, it has no place in dragon ball, DOESN'T NEED TO BE.
@@Dig_Duke_SFM even so its referring to dbz religion type things
Jesus is that important I dont mind him on my DBZ in fact, I prefer it.
You have earned my sub just for statinging the word of God.
Thank you George, God is awesome
@@KaioshinCurt indeed he is
@Kaioshin Curt that's facts it always is cool when you incorporate god into the db stuff
Very interesting video. Always wondered about how Nappa would have influenced the further story.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If so Nappa would've probably be the one to think of reviving Saiyan race after hearing the truth of what truly. Idk🤷♂️ maybe I'm wrong
A part to disagree with is the claiming Nappa lacks raw talent, individuality, or intelligence. Proven wrong by the show itself, where if composed, is able to match Goku's own might--with the low-class Saiyan acknowledging those feats. Especially when in _Dragon Ball FighterZ_ this compliment is reinforced by word of Goku's first teacher, Master Roshi! Bandai Namco didn't write a special interaction such as this without context; it just confirms Nappa power is practically unmatched but lacks the guidance to untap it. And... cause Toriyama doesn't know how to write villain reforms all that well save for Piccolo and of course Vegeta.
And Tien, and Yamcha, and Krillin....
I mean my thoughts of why Nappa was killed was a good reason. His spine was broken and he was paralyzed if I remember correctly. So I'm pretty sure Vegeta saw it as mercy to some degree
when i watched why vegeta killed nappa i thought what would happend if nappa didnt die
hope this helps to get us thinking then, what do you think my friend?
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Thank you for subbing, means a lot :) yes hopefully another video this week, otherwise next Tuesday
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Thanks, will do! welcome
#enders I feel like you powerlevels are a pretty realistic estimate. I was thinking before you got into the numbers that nappa should be close to vegeta by the time he and too I got to namek because of the zenkai boost and all the training he did with too I on the way. I realize that he was way outclassed by vegeta on earth but he would have had that boost from his fight with you plus the intense training that vegeta did not have... So gap closes lol... Also dude your channel blew up congrats on 4.5k man
Yes I tried to be realistic but the numbers aren't perfect and there's lot of room to debate. That's what it's all about. Thanks a lot mate :) this growth came out of nowhere lol
@@KaioshinCurt something I just thought of is that nappa would still have his tail soo... Time for a 10x multiplier?
This is your best series
Interesting theory!🤔🔥
The Sayain heart must be strong to be able to pump blood to the brain in 100g
Honestly i feel like if he didn't kill Nappa, he would have played more of a comedy role for the show more then someone who would fight much, or basically just be another piccolo, krillin, tien ETC. Basically a side character but i do believe he would have became a good guy since he respects vegeta
I’d suggest taking a look at MasakoX for his ‘If Nappa turned good’ video. While not exactly the same, it is the same concept.
Dam amazing story, your better then all the other RUclipsrs, keep it up man
Wow really thanks but, how is that possible?
@@KaioshinCurt its just how you put the story, i imagine your story telling in my head, other RUclipsrs tell storys but they say it in a non interesting way, just keep it up i want to see more videos 👍👍👍👍
@@KaioshinCurt i seen other videos about "what if vegeta never killed nappa" and they was all ok but your is perfect story telling and how the story is
thank you so much Najib!
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Greetings from Battleship RadioTV, my friend. I freaken love this what if, and greatly enjoyed your exquisite delivery throughout. I always wished many of these characters had been fleshed out more. Because their POTENTIAL (BAHAHA!!) to be awesome, is indeed great.
Cheers, and KEEP IT GOIN!!!
Grand holidays unto all
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Thank you kindly!
It’s awesome to see you connect two of my favorite things: dragon ball and my religion
Not a religion it a relationship with our father
Great video bro
Appreciate it
holy- he would’ve died to nail after killing piccolo😭😭
I think raditz would be cooler, I mean he is Goku's brother
Well constructed video, very nice #Enders
Thank you Brent :)
You got my sub for being an entertaining channel and from the looks of it a very religious person. You barely see that anymore on here so it's good to see
thanks, your words mean a lot mate :) God bless you
i would lov 2 c Nap time as a super saiyan, i always thought he would look like Jinpachi from Tekken but with a golden mustache.
hahah yes well I'll try to do a video on it.
@@KaioshinCurt i'd love 2 c it. Also, appreciate the like and reply, just subbed :)
I see this channel going places. Keep up the good work
I appreciate that! thanks mate
Your content is fun to watch. You do your homework.
That kaio-shin outfit looks like my grandma’s pharmacy uniform 😂
Thank you for this!! I love your content, can't wait to watch and share my thoughts
You're so welcome! yes please, looking forward to it
@@KaioshinCurt Congratulations on the 3.73K subscribers and thanks for the amazing content and do you play any Dragon ball games like FighterZ?
Thanks Geraldene! I've only played the old ones. The last one I played was XV1 and I didn't enjoy it. Games aren't my thing anymore
Great vid keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
#Enders Good video Kaioshin Curt! While Nappa would not be as strong as Goku or Vegeta, his one ability that could help him make it would be his durability. Despite, his power level it appears he has a very high durability, as he can take a beaten more so than normal. Just me two cents. What do you think?
Thanks my mate! Yes that's something I should have mentioned thanks for bringing up - oh yes Goku commented how he was tough. Dang it! Would have been a great point. Kudos to you mate. This durability would have helped him against Jeice and Burter no doubt.
You would have to take into account nappa actually training with goku, I think Nappa would actually increase his PL more than estimated. Saiyan growth through combat is exponential, and not just through zenkai. Any combat situation where they are being pushed against a wall is one where they can and will get stronger. I don't think Nappa would reach Goku's level in that time, but he would be within 20k - 30k of Goku easily. We really do not know a great deal about Nappa, outside of being a middle class saiyan and Vegeta's Attendant. There's no actual precedent for what Nappa could do with actual dedicated training.
Always happy to see another video from you man. That growth is already insane! Love these what if's videos and I really enjoyed your last one on the subject of nappa
Ikr it's been a crazy week! Thanks, just felt it went along with the last one. Nappa could have been amazing if he did the 100G training with Goku, then got more zenkais too on Namek
@@KaioshinCurt Right? Idk what it is about nappa and raditz but they're always so interesting to think about if they had simply been allowed to live or some back to life! Btw, #Enders, I hadn't quite made it to the end before commenting haha
First off I love your supreme kai outfit
You’re my new best friend Curt. 🎉
Imagine if raditz nappa and Vegeta went to earth then decided to ask Gohan and Goku to make Vegeta a super Saiyan God to defeat frieza
Nappa is an interesting character, I think if he was spared he would’ve only been killed off in the next arc, it could be a Goku and Merus situation where his death triggers super saiyan, like krillins death did. The trip to namek was 3 months so there would be time for Goku to “work his magic”. He became good friends with Merus and his death helped trigger MUI after only 6 months of training and it wasn’t even the training that got him to that level so it’s a possibility.
Hey my friend, I like this idea! Trigger for super saiyan Goku, wow that would have been almost as impactful as Piccolo
I really hope you do a remake of the what if.
Because first of all Napa had to at least have a power level of 8,000 in order for any of his attacks to even threatened Goku life because it is stated that if you have a power of a double then your opponent then you're literally able to negate their attacks completely that's not what happened in Canon.
So Nappa had to at least have a power level of 8,000 which would explain why he freaked out that Goku had a power level over 8000 which was exactly 8,320 more than enough power to have Nappa lose and panic.
And technically speaking is Vegeta still had its tail is power level actually would have been 36,000 but because he lost it lost quite a bit of its power 1.5% of his power wicked why he only had a 24,000 power level.
and if nappa's power level was 7,500 and that doubled it would be 15,000 and then with the training it would be 150,000 and then increased that by 50%
so nappa's power level was 225,000
and Goku would still have a power level of 135,000 but because he can use Kaio-ken he can become 270,000
i'm glad that you made a quick, to the point, and reasonable what-if as opposed to the 2 hour long glorified fan-fics other people make. it's a breath of fresh air.
It would’ve been interesting to have seen
He be bold super saying 😂
Please make more videos like this 😔
Wow u already at 5k
So close! thank you :)
I like the one where nappa stays on earth and heals at the hospital. in my opinion nappa could have been something similar to yajiroobee, like not close to the goku gang and nkt as strong but still around when realy needed. but maybe he could learn more techniques, he was part of the saiyan elite. cool and sneaky way to include jesus here, jesus rewards us with his presence and grace cause we speak of him. great vid.
Good analysis mate! I agree it could have worked out for Nappa. Tori had other ideas, so we're left to imagine. Thanks for encouraging me, I will speak of Jesus, he is worthy of all honour
Think if Nappa would survived become friends with Goku maybe his body guard like he did with Vegeta when he was younger in the movie Bardok the the father of goku movie then Goku teaches Nappa every thing that he was taught by King Kai and most of all Master Roshie.They would both team up against Frieza and Vegeta. Vegeta would of still stay loyal to Frieza.
I was surprised to see how often you reference the bible and preach God's word in your videos. It is so refreshing to see that as the consensus for most creators nowadays seems to be "Let's not pull the pin on that grenade" unless it is a purely Christian channel. Your channel spreads the good word in a new medium many love which is what we need this day and age. I hope it goes well
Vegeta loves his neighbors
Also vegeta destroyed worlds
Nappa would probably slow Goku down if they did gravity training together. Goku accelerated his gravity training an incredible amount by pushing his body passed its limits. Nappa would not be able to keep up with Goku’s work and the number of zenkais he keeps getting. Goku would either have to leave Nappa behind in the training, or Goku would have to slow down his own training so Nappa doesn’t die under 100x gravity.
Hey mate, thanks for this analysis. I was probably think too casually, and I like the points you've raised, you're probably right :)
I doubt that, given that not was already use to 10gs and like Goku and Piccalo fought with weighted armor. So they would both start at the same level of gravity and with Goku being stronger would aid Nappa in growing stronger himself.
I need more what if’s Court
I would love to see this video topic continued! It sounds so awesome. Just think of what would happen if Nappa survived and got redemption 🤔 Maybe even do one like this for Raditz too?#ENDERS
Okay I'll try to do a continuation mate:) thanks
@@KaioshinCurt No...thank you good sir😊 Really enjoy your content and your lively personality
Nappa was dead weight. He was paralyzed and weak. Even if Vegeta didn’t kill him Frieza would have likely had. I believe Vegeta was the only elite of them.
I feel like Nappa would have probably chased after Vegeta instead of fighting with captain ginyu. Maybe looking for revenge. After all vegeta would’ve left him for dead on earth in this scenario. Because Sayains are very prideful I doubt nappa would’ve been buddy buddy with goku either. After all it took Vegeta till the buu saga to accept the mighty kakarrot lol so Nappa would’ve been willing to abandon Goku the first chance he got and maybe would’ve had his own plan for the Dragon Balls
There's so many potholes I don't even have to explain why this doesn't make any sense why would Vegeta leave Nappa
I did some calculations of my own and Vegeta actually became weaker when he lost his tail
he became 1.5 times weaker which means he had a power level of 12,000 and then when he recovered he doubled his power
if that's the case then Nappa who did not lose his tail would be at a power level 8000 when he healed
you also have to remember that Goku had a power level 8,320 when he first fought Nappa
and Goku getting a zenkai when he healed giving him a power level of 9,000
and Goku had a power level of 90,000 when he made it to Namek and Goku actually used a Kaio-ken X 2 against Captain Ginyu
so Nappa should have a power level of 120,000
and Goku should have a power level of 135,000
and this is only if Nappa's power level was only 4,000 even though supposably his full power is 7,500 when fighting Goku in the second round because he fights Goku two times
Gotta remember that good ol kaioken as well. It’s not just the power levels but the skills they use. Goku’s training on kai’s planet is a huge factor
@@johndewberryiii9925 that might be true but Goku never use kaio-ken well training on the ship that was all just gravity Based training
@@timothyfrasier8218 I don’t think that ship would have survived that training lol
@@johndewberryiii9925 Goku only use gravity training on the ship he never used Kaio-Ken on the ship because the ship definitely would have broke otherwise. lol
it'd be great if you did a video going over vegeta's character arc
Nappa would’ve wished back and wished to earth after namek he would’ve trained during the 3 years untill the androids arrived from there anything would’ve been possible
Wait, by the logic of the Kaioken, Goku originally had 90k since he went up to 180k
What would be Goku's pl then? Just 132k instead? What about Nappa's since he was training with someone stronger?
Kaioshin Curt, could you do (What if Gine want to earth with Goku)?
Thanks Jordan, I'll look into it and see. Sorry your other suggestions haven't been done yet, I'll get to them :)
@@KaioshinCurt won't worry about it, just take your time.
Nappa and raditz would of had had a lot of potential
idk, I cant see nappa turning good that quickly. Hed could prob stay on earth revaluate his life and become another piccolo or 17 and help when needed. Eventually becoming another z fighter pushed to the side.
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i still think if nappa went ssj3 he would get a long mustache or grow a beard
and also i believe his tail would grow too along with his hair
but thats just my own headcanon it would be cool if a ssj3 is tail grew as it would actually be an extra use in battle
Goku had plenty of time to save Nappa. Goku could have flown into the sky and knocked away both the attack and Nappa at the same time.
Yeah but I don’t see why he’d do that.
Vegeta takes nappa with him when he leaves earth and when he goes to namek. Vegeta thinks even this dolt maybe useful. Cui shows up and challenges Vegeta. Vegeta responds I don't think you can handle nappa. Nappa then fights cui with cui only slightly stronger. Cui pulls out a couple of dirty moves and beats nappa. Cui proceeds to keep beating the already beaten nappa. Vegeta then blast cui into space dust. And nappa says if you could have done that so easily why did you let him keep beating me? Vegeta replies because it was funny! And it will make you stronger. This second statement was an after thought. The things going on with krillin and Gohan are currently the same with the scouters being destroyed, and them saving dende. The earthlings escape dodoria and dodoria encounters Vegeta and a slightly recovered and stronger nappa. Dodoria then says hand over those scouters and I'll let you go. Vegeta says sure and takes his off. Nappa follows vegeta's lead. Vegeta and nappa stick their hands out like they are going to give him them. As dodoria goes to grab them they drop them on the ground and stomp on them. Dodoria shrikes and vegeta whispers nappa handle this. And nappa yells but I'm still recovering from the other guy! And dodoria turns and yells why did you do that! Vegeta replies because they are worth so much more to you than me. And then reiterates with a much more threatening voice nappa handle this! Nappa charges dodoria and now he is somewhat stronger than dodoria from his fight with Cui. But he is still not fully recovered from the last fight so dodoria gets the upper hand and starts beating nappa severely. After a while Vegeta yells that's enough and dodoria says why you let me do that? Napa yelled why!, From the ground. Vegeta simply laughed and said cause it was funny! And it'll make him stronger. Again like an after thought. Dodoria then smirked and said I doubt you'll do any better than your friend. Vegeta then smirked and said what did your scouter say when Cui died. Dodoria frowned and thought back which was hard for him and the look of horror amused Vegeta. That can't be possible dodoria screamed! Vegeta still smirking said I'm stronger than you and proceeded to break dodoria's arms. Dodoria wailed please don't kill me, I'll tell you what really happened to planet Vegeta. Nappa barely able to get up says it was hit by a meteor. Vegeta says hurry up and speak and dodoria tells him how frieza did it and starts to fly away. Vegeta waits a second so he thinks he'll get away then blasts him out the air. Next they run into zarbon and nappa is as strong as Vegeta from the two zenkais since arriving. But still greatly injured. They were on the way to try to sneak out a healing chambers from frieza's ship for nappa. So Vegeta says nappa I got this. And nappa sighs finally. Vegeta then proceeds to wail on zarbon. Zarbon then goes on to talk about how his true form is hidious. Nappa yells yawn. Vegeta mearly smirks and says let's have it then. Zarbon then transforms and wrecks Vegeta. Nappa yells oh shit as Vegeta is piledrived. Zarbon then knocks nappa out next as well and leaves them both in the water. The conversation between zarbon and frieza goes the same with him telling him to retrieve the now two sayians. Zarbon comes back with both and places them both in healing chambers. Appule says not so tough now to vegeta's tank right as Vegeta wakes up to hear it. Vegeta and nappa blast open their healing chambers and again steal the dragon balls. Nappa takes the time to leave an insulting note to frieza on the way out. Frieza calls the ginyu force and again zarbon finds the two sayians right next to krillin. Krillin was like damn I knew nappa was coming but Vegeta too. Nappa ask if he could handle zarbon and vegeta says make it quick. Zarbon transforms and nappa quickly cuts his arm off with a single strike. Krillin says I thought he beat you a short while ago. Nappa then finishes zarbon with a ki wave the same way Vegeta did. Vegeta tells krillin that sayians get stronger everytime they lose a fight and krillin says that's incredibly unfair. Vegeta then says as I'm in such a good mood I'll spare you if you hand over the dragon ball. He then goes on being the proud owner of all seven makes me very happy. Krillin gives him the ball. Gohan having already sensed nappa which they couldn't Vegeta didn't take his time getting the dragon ball. Instead he rushed and made much better time. He also hid better on the way back. Once Vegeta passed him by he hurried back to krillin which was the plan assuming krillin lived. Gohan got there much faster as a result allowing them to leave swiftly and immediately. Vegeta and nappa so elated thinking they got all seven didn't even notice Gohan flying full speed as they happily told frieza jokes to one another. ( Pick up where we left off last time on dragon ball z!)
Wow I enjoyed reading this, thanks my friend!
Well Nappa would have either survived Namek or been brought back afterwords if he formed a friendship with Goku. And going by the likely power increase he would have had he would not reach Super Saiyan yet, nor would he have reached it by the Android Saga though his power would probably be on par with Piccolo's at the beginning of the Saga. By the time of the Cell games, I can see him reaching regular Super Saiyan and maybe Super Saiyan 2 by Buu if he kept up his training in the seven years. In the end he would probably fill a role similar to Piccolo does as a warrior who still sees action but is behind the two main Saiyans.
Hey Kaioshin Curt, if you watch the anime do you prefer the sub or the dub?
I prefer Sub for the last five years, but as a child I liked the Dub and couldn't stand Sub haha
I'm not sure plot #2 could start off that way so easily, I find it hard to believe Nappa would ignore the artificial moon Vegeta creates, thus he would transform into an oozaru. The simple solution is that Nappa had fallen unconscious during that time, but it would seem a bit too convenient IMO.
Well, he would be crippled by that point. So, in addition to being recently crippled, a sudden transformation, one as seemingly painful as the Oozaru transformation, might outright kill Nappa, from the shock.
I would love to see raditz as a hero. I truly believe that if raditz had the EXACTLY training as goku, raditz would be superior to goku
I feel the zenkai boost is not a% increase it meets or surpasses power level of active threat all official power levels support this
I appreciate the scripture!
You're welcome :)
Curt-kun
Yes my friend :)
Ive recently watched you'why you quit youtube, please create more vids and olso have a great life may god watch you (:
thank you so much - I will
I don’t know where it’s said that Nappa had a power level of 42,000 but I don’t think that’s true. He was as strong as Goku when he wasn’t using the Kaioken so he had to have been the same power level as Goku. And since Goku and Nappa were both badly beaten after the Saiyan Saga then I could imagine that their power levels would still be on par with each other after their Zenkais and they would only continue to be on equal footing since they would be training together, except for when Goku uses the Kaioken. I’m not an expert on power levels though.
Damn no continuation. How sad
One of these sayian should of been spared .just so they can have kids to add to the half sayian storyline
You can but we all know Goku never teaches that 🤣
I thought the same thing even if he survived nappa wouldnt be around for long however the daishenzuu a dbz guide lists nappa at 7500, a little too close for me but there us no way nappas full power is 4000, if it was base goku would one shit him
Nappa's max power was definitely 7500, it actually shows when Nappa took on Goku in the 2nd round after he regained his focus and powered up he was suddenly a full on challenge to Goku to the point they were both fighting evenly, Goku was then amazed that Nappa was nowhere near as weak as he thought and even said the fight could drag on for a really long time if he doesn't use the kaioken on him, so Nappa at his best was in fact roughly on par with Goku.
great analysis mate - thanks for pointing this out
Bro Nappa's full power is around 6000-7000 not 4000
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE ITS SAYINS NOT SAJENS
hey Sandro, I'm going to make a video explaining why I say it this way
i gave up on both spelling and pronunciation of DB names long ago amigo, since I am hispanic latino and translations are tough. lets just focus on DBZ and overlook little details.
@@KaioshinCurt ik i watched it
@@KaioshinCurt i am nightmare now
Nappa max PL is 7,000
and because Nappa still has a tail he can become a great ape and become 10 times stronger so his power would be 2,250,000 and that's when they land on Planet Namek
with a Zenkai on Planet Namek Nappa could possibly become 10 or 20 times stronger
and his power would be 2,250,000 and his power would be 22,500,000 in his great ape form
or his power would be 4,500,000 and his power would be 45,000,000 in his great ape form
So if Vegeta had the time to read the bible.
What if goku black is goten
I like the second option
cool thanks mate me too!
@@KaioshinCurt yep
hey third comment in 13 minutes. i will never be first again but hope you wont forget who was there sincw the very begining ;)
I cannot forget you Saiya! I hope I stay true to you and I think you will be first again
@@KaioshinCurt This is such a sweet comment :) I'm new to your content but you're definitely one of my favourite DB youtubers right now!
awww thank you - bless you :)
What if Raditz killed Goku?
So nappa is stronger than Jace he went for 4000 to 60000 that's crazy hes only 20 times stronger at age 40
fact you recited scripture so suddenly in your video made me just stop it. secret agenda much thought this was a dbz what if
Why would nappa die against ginyu goku? When gohan and krillin was whooping ginyu goku for the most part. Even as Ginyu goku was slightly getting used to the body and just slightly turned the tables, Nappa would still be significantly stronger.
They should've wished to be stronger than Freeza😂🤦
nah veegta stil labd leaves without nappa nappa ends up bodning with z fighters waiting for vegeta to return
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hahaha got it now! Need to watch some TFS and Abridged some day
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I see
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He should've spared him tl have him to procreate human women to have children to raise them as soldiers to create an army.