Cheap Copy? OR Was DeTomaso's Pantera A Ferrari Slayer…

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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @Number27
    @Number27  8 месяцев назад +2

    Love these cars so much i went and bought a project one in Oaklahoma USA - check the video out! ruclips.net/video/-3eCUufZzX4/видео.htmlsi=p8r7YYF9UBt_iAkc

  • @Yorkyscott
    @Yorkyscott 2 года назад +198

    I think the styling of the early Pantera is about as good as it gets. Beautiful car.

    • @ronniewall492
      @ronniewall492 2 года назад +11

      WOULD MAKE GOOD NAME FOR ROCK BAND

    • @briansharp4388
      @briansharp4388 2 года назад +5

      There are some designs that are just classic....

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 2 года назад

      Athefumen

    • @bfboobie
      @bfboobie 2 года назад +2

      Have always agreed with this, ever since I saw one as a little boy in the 80s. Pantera is the most badass car design ever. It is icing on the cake the awesome rock band shares the name.

    • @jimlee4583
      @jimlee4583 2 года назад +4

      100% agree, how anyone can think any Ferrari ever looks as good/badass as the Pantera is mind blowing to me.

  • @richardwollocombe6793
    @richardwollocombe6793 2 года назад +134

    Thanks for the great video, Jack. As a narrow bodied Pantera owner myself, it’s really nice to see one reviewed by a British RUclips channel. Another positive was your open minded approach to the car, as too many journalists in this country look down on the Pantera because it’s a hybrid, most having probably never even driven one. Good work and thank you 😊

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 2 года назад +15

      The Cobras were hybrids, not too much sneering at those. Panteras are beautiful cars without the fussy Italian engines.

    • @stephenscholes4758
      @stephenscholes4758 2 года назад +2

      @@3ducs You sound so American...those new-fangled OHC Euro engines!! Hilarious

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 2 года назад +16

      @@stephenscholes4758 My first car, back in 1967, was an Alfa Romeo Sprint. Many Alfas came after. Also an XK-E, XJ-S, Maserati Ghibli 4.7, BMW 535is, various Audis, and currently a '16 Mazda MX-5. So.... But at one time I lusted after a Cobra kit car so I guess I'm a hilarious American. And the 3Ducs name? The Ducatis I used to ride. Oh, and a MGB and a MG 1100. And a Rickman Metisse with a Royal Enfield 750 engine. Again, hilarious.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад

      @@3ducs the AC´s you meant ,model cobra

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад +1

      @@3ducs giulia sprint veloce?i had the real GTV from 76 a giulia sprint veloce, also a GT2000 veloce(as it said on the instruction manual only )from 72 ,was my everyday car till 96 ,the money i spent in gasoline would have been better invested in a testarossa

  • @bobmcl2406
    @bobmcl2406 2 года назад +22

    Now THAT is a great looking Pantera! They looked so good before they started adding geegaws.

    • @igordewit7357
      @igordewit7357 Год назад

      Totally agree...Thats why i think the eighties were mostly horrible.They certainly managed to f up this model.Luckily..this one is still beautiful.

    • @italianduded1161
      @italianduded1161 6 месяцев назад +1

      I think all Pantera look awesome.
      The GT5 is also beautiful but I get what ye mean

  • @stevesteve1965
    @stevesteve1965 2 года назад +112

    I would absolutely have one of these (pre body kit) over a Ferrari.

    • @MarcSob22
      @MarcSob22 2 года назад +3

      NEVER

    • @richardsellers8671
      @richardsellers8671 2 года назад +7

      @@MarcSob22 Are you broken?

    • @bobmcl2406
      @bobmcl2406 2 года назад +12

      I quite agree. To me, these should be compared to V12 Ferraris, not to a 308.

    • @tkreitler
      @tkreitler 2 года назад +12

      Agree 100%. Ferrari, as a company, is not appealing at all. This particular Pantera is beautiful and it looks much better in my eye than the later version.

    • @stephenscholes4758
      @stephenscholes4758 2 года назад +1

      @@tkreitlerYou probably prefer McDonald's over a Michelin Star accredited ? That's a good thing, the world is made up of many and varied 👏

  • @lesbrook
    @lesbrook 2 года назад +20

    So glad you tested this car, I think the earlier Pantera along with the original Ferrari Boxer is one of the most beautiful cars ever.

  • @m7dgz
    @m7dgz 2 года назад +11

    Just like with the early LP400 Countach, there is a beautiful purity and simplicity to these that the later versions lost by adding aggressive spoilers and wheel arch extensions.

    • @Assimilator1
      @Assimilator1 Год назад

      Nah, later Countachs looked much better, IMO of course! I was more of an 80s kid, so the wide arches etc appeal to me.

  • @SportsandGT
    @SportsandGT 2 года назад +41

    The early purer design beats the later body-kitted variants every time. A lovely noise too. Nice video Jack.

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад +1

      off course, the original always better and not noise but music

    • @georgescott632
      @georgescott632 2 года назад +2

      Bought my 1972 Pantera in June of 1998, best thing I ever did/ when I was single it was worth a hookup every week if I wanted to pursue it. also not many cars could keep up with it if any corners were involved! Will be back on the road by middle of December after 25 years! having a hard time waiting for the restoration! thanks to my great friend David Dodeck!

    • @georgescott632
      @georgescott632 2 года назад +2

      Most fun car I have ever driven! Barr none! also have a 1969 Boss 302 Mustang. Can't compare to the Pantera!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад

      @@georgescott632i also had a boss , mint condition in 1977 but ,only recentelly by watching discovery channel i knew they were sold under the brand Ford ,i´m a fan of DeTomaso cars, i own only two but none is the pantera ,i also refer seeing on tv the band Cars from Ric Ocasek ,drummer owns a DeTomaso mangusto wich was released as a joke to the AC Cobras with Ford v8 engines by Carol Shelby( cobra means, snake and the mangusto is a litle animal that eats snakes(english) or cobras(spanish or portuguese) ) it was released in 1969 being a cobra killer, and i had a mustang fastback from 70 but with a 69 front grill adapted with a 7.0L engine and two big lights extra in the front ,bigger than those seen on the boss model and i had to choose ,couldn´t keep a lot of U.S. muscle cars and i kept the mercury cougar rx-7 7.0L engine released by Ford and two pontiacs the grandprix convertible, and the coupé Lemans i think both are from 67, regards

    • @italianduded1161
      @italianduded1161 2 месяца назад

      Agreed, I love every version, even the GT5 … but the first ones are just better.

  • @klubstompers
    @klubstompers 2 года назад +1

    The best view of that Pantera, is underneath in the rear end looking up at the control arms, sway bar, and shocks, rear cradle, which is just incredible. The one i saw, was all polished billet, lust like the engine and tranny.

  • @aussieausdeutschland4245
    @aussieausdeutschland4245 2 года назад +18

    The 351 that De Tomaso sourced from Ford was the Australian cast and assembled Cleveland right up until the boys in the Geelong foundry stopped casting them approximately 1989/90 and that was exclusively for De Tomaso as the Falcon stopped getting the V8 option in 1984 and the Brisbane assembled F trucks got Windsor's direct from the states.

    • @boddysurfer
      @boddysurfer 2 месяца назад +1

      To my knowledge the Windsor was built in Windsor, Ontario, Canada.

  • @TheManFrayBentos
    @TheManFrayBentos 2 года назад +11

    I was lucky enough to get a drive in a Pantera when I worked at a Ford dealership in 1977. The car was in for replacement big end and main bearings, as it seemed to be fitted with a lemon engine made on a bad Monday at the Ford plant. Given that this was the second time the car had been in, the garage owner insisted on myself and one other running it in carefully before handing it back to the owner.
    I couldn't give it any welly, of course. God, I was dying to, but it was marvellous anyway.

  • @davebarron5939
    @davebarron5939 2 года назад +11

    Always loved the Pantera, and that glorious V8 sound! Heavy Growl, not a scream!

  • @hmr171
    @hmr171 2 года назад +7

    Thanks for this video. It brings back some good memories of my childhood in the 70's. I played ice hockey as a kid in the 🇺🇸 and our coach had one of these he had bought new. It was an early car and I used to drool over it when visiting his house. One day, my father wasn't able to take me to a game, so I got a ride from our coach. I still remember my father telling him that he had made my day when he pulled into our driveway in that red Pantera. I remember we went over 100 mph on the way. I was probably about 11 years old at the time.

  • @chriswalford9228
    @chriswalford9228 2 года назад +11

    1974 boss I worked for drove stags he had 3 in as many months all different colours. Anyway he had a young entrepreneur friend in London who had a DeTomaso . Sometimes the guy would fly his helicopter down to visit and land it between two cars on the car park. But sometimes he would drive the car down. It's a long time ago and I could be wrong but I seem to recall being told the tyres were about £250 each ( I bought a Yamaha RD250 in 1975 new about £350) so a tyre and a half .

  • @rieskorin2027
    @rieskorin2027 2 года назад +13

    Yes there is no glass in the deck lid port but there should be a panel that joins the two small side panels and covers over the air filter. Once the deck lid is shut, none of the engine is exposed. We are able to do left hand drive, dropped floor conversions as well as moving pedal boxes and shifting alternators and AC pump positions on the engine to allow reworking of the firewall centre bulge for the tall driver. All the above was done to a group four replica as well as powered steering. So glad you like the Panteras, they are a real statement 👍

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith9509 2 года назад +10

    What a beautiful car: fast, gorgeous and yet totally the delightful car it was intended to be. Gorgeous restoration too

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 2 года назад +57

    I really like the early Panteras. As with many cars the first are often the purest, and you can see how this, Bora, gt4 and Urraco all reflect the style of their time. Bring the detailing up to date and it would look fresh if you launched it tomorrow.

    • @zloychechen5150
      @zloychechen5150 2 года назад

      i don't like it when they start putting skirts, moldings, spoilers and all sorts of other plastic shit on cars to make them more modern. i find that things like the w124 and w126 mercs are most attractive in their earliest guises. also, the original diablo is the prettiest, in my mind. not true for any car of course.

    • @Assimilator1
      @Assimilator1 Год назад

      Personally I prefer the look of the later wide bodied cars, they look more purposeful and aggressive, but each to their own.🙂

  • @TaiChiWithRon
    @TaiChiWithRon Год назад +1

    I love the Pantera!! When I was ten years old I used to ride my bike over to the Lincoln dealership and walk around the Pantera’s and dream.

  • @russellhammond4373
    @russellhammond4373 2 года назад +9

    Love a tickled Ford V8 (I'm used to them living in Australia throughout the Pantera's life). Keep up the great work Jack.

  • @danmoreton1788
    @danmoreton1788 2 года назад +24

    When the Pantera first came out I was in the market for a new car. I knew every fact and feature of this car. On a daily basis I tried to sell the the idea of this car to my wife. The price was $9,999. A bargain I told my wife. Just when I thought I had convinced her, she turn her head toward me and said where will the new baby fit in this car? We bought a Chevy Nova!!! Whenever I think of a Pantera I feel just a little bit sad

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 2 года назад +1

      $9,999 plus $20,000 to keep it running every year...that could buy a lots of Chevy...

    • @gavinvalentino1313
      @gavinvalentino1313 2 года назад +1

      Chad, you're a dork.
      Make up a ridiculous figure and then use ellipsis incorrectly, searching for validation and approval.
      Wow.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 2 года назад

      @Fat Albert Okay fatty

    • @Pantdino
      @Pantdino 2 года назад +8

      @@chadhaire1711 Totally not true. Ford engine, solid German transaxle. Dirt cheap to keep running.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 2 года назад

      @@Pantdino You have zero idea what you are talking about Gomer.....the first year these came out at $10,000 retail, many owners had to put another $10,000 to keep them running.....suspension, electrics, body parts....there were and still are money pits that were never made to be driven, just a kit car made to be shown. They sell today for $80,000++ because most of them had that much spent keeping them in one piece. Stick to your airplane videos Gomer, you don't know crap about the Pantera.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas 2 года назад +7

    You can almost feel the torque through the video. If I got the money I would love to have a DeTomaso in my garage. They're unique, and not many people knew DeTomaso.

  • @todd2386
    @todd2386 2 года назад +6

    The pantera is superior in maintanance costs alone! And is a beautiful car overall

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 2 года назад

      hahaha wrong.....first year was $10K to buy , and many owners spent $20K the next year keeping them running and doing mods to keep them running longer.......

  • @commonasmuck1234
    @commonasmuck1234 2 года назад +9

    Your camera work and editing have gone up several notches with this video. Great stuff! Wonderful car.

  • @douglorimer5985
    @douglorimer5985 2 года назад +3

    Bill Eliot, at talladega in 85 set an unbelievable record with the 351 Cleveland. A record that will never be beat.anyone thats had 1 of these engine's loves them. Detomoso made a wise choice, love these cars.

  • @stankygeorge
    @stankygeorge 2 года назад +3

    The reason DeTomaso made the rear look so goood, is because, that is all any other driver is ever going to see of the Pantera!
    People talk horsepower, but it is torque they love!
    The Ford GT40 kicked Ferrari's a*s at LeMans and elsewhere, the Pantera kicked Ferrari's a*s on the street because the Pantera is the Ford GT40 in street form.
    You know it is American when you can hot rod it in your backyard and its value goes up!
    Great review!~

  • @otsef1946
    @otsef1946 2 года назад +8

    I've always been a fan of these car's. They look great in black, however any colour would do 😁

  • @floatingonairandwater
    @floatingonairandwater 2 года назад +9

    For me both of the Panteras you’ve covered are beautiful.

  • @lightinabox6931
    @lightinabox6931 2 года назад +2

    I have a vintage RC De Tomaso Mangusta that belonged to my dad, it says it's from 1976 under it. Made me obsessed with the cars since I played with that when I was very young.

  • @strat0871
    @strat0871 2 года назад +5

    I've always loved these narrow bodies Panteras, thanks.

  • @ilovebutterstuff
    @ilovebutterstuff 2 года назад +3

    I've wanted a Pantera since I was 12.
    I'd describe it as if a supercar and a muscle car had a baby that grew up to be a star wide receiver for the NFL.

  • @512bb
    @512bb 2 года назад +4

    As I stated on your GT5 video I've owned my Pantera for 37 years. At the same time I have had or spent a fair amount of time with it's contemporaries. As I have always had an on going battle between my heart vs my head, the truth is torque is what moves you on the street. My heart loves the hi reving race track inspired engine but torque is king on the street, a manual Porsche GT3, pure magic but the turbo rules for every day street work. It's hard to compare a Pantera to any Ferrari, a Bora, Jalpa or Countach would be closer but you can pound all day long on the Pantera without worry. Although not as comfortable as the lounge seating of a Bora, you don't have to deal with the complex Citron hydraulic system of the Bora. The Countach, iconic but a real workout to drive. I absolutely love the 512 BB but Ferraris are just to finicky to live with. With the exception of a modern day computer super car there is nearly no limit on the performance potential of a Pantera. They only produced the 351C for 5 years so a real lack of development work than a chevy sb, The 4V heads were just too big for the street which is the reason the ZF came with a 4:22 final drive ( literally no 1st gear) So much head development has been done over the years for the Cleveland, so many ring & pinion options available that the sky is the limit. I am currently building an all aluminum Cleveland stroked to 427 ci producing a very drivable 625 HP, ( plenty more depending on how much drivability you are willing to sacrifice) . Replacing the 4:22's with 3:30"s & it will operate smoothly from 1500-6500 rpm without the headaches & expense of an exotic. In the end, the Pantera is capable of true super car performance without the extreme expense of it's exotic brethren's. Terrific comments from the viewers, hope some found this helpful if the Pantera is on your short list.

    • @georgescott632
      @georgescott632 2 года назад

      Why not put twin turbo's on the Clevland? Horsepower is unlimited! Would even scare the devil!

    • @512bb
      @512bb 2 года назад

      @@georgescott632 Well, I much prefer a naturally aspirated motor to turbochargers. It seems the young guys are obsessed with hugh HP figures, again torque is what you want on the street. As I have no issues with over heating, it really dosen't make sense to pack a mid engine compartment with something that produces so much extra heat.

    • @nickpetty3035
      @nickpetty3035 3 месяца назад

      There is quite a lot different on the later cars built after 1980, the floor is slightly lower, and the inner wings that encase the engine compartment are fabricated out of flat sheet steel, unlike the early cars pressed panels, they also appear to stand up to rust a lot better, I had a 1982 GTS (without the flared arches), it is without dought the one car I regret selling, everything that Jack says about them is spot on, they are a pleasure to live with!!!!

  • @federicomalignani4957
    @federicomalignani4957 2 года назад +31

    Third De Tomaso in a few months on your channel....And for the third time I am telling you that Alejandro De Tomaso was a genius. Maybe with a bad character but with an immense knowledge of cars. He made this masterpiece,that was a piece of pure craftmanship,hand made and with a simple big american engine. Every time that somebody used american engines on european sports cars had sensational results: think to Jensen,Iso Rivolta,Bizzarrini,Intermeccanica,Monteverdi and De Tomaso of course. They are the right cars for that engines,and even if probably an Aston Martin,a Jaguar,a Ferrari,a Maserati or a Lamborghini are more intriguing with their home made engines,they are nothing less,they are simple and their sound is great. Bigger capacity,more torque,for cars that were easier to drive and with european standards in agility,road holding and brakes. I don't know if this thing is better than a contemporary Ferrari 308,or BB,or Maserati Bora,but certainly is not worse and cheaper to mantain. This is a car to buy before is too late. They are growing up in price but they are still a bargain if we compare them to Ferrari,Lamborghini and Maserati values. This Pantera is beautiful,but if it is an early Pantera L I think it should have a different interior trim,with plain leather on the door panels and without wood trim,that was adopted when De Tomaso aquired Maserati (infact the wood was the same,Saturday I was driving my Biturbo S and the veneer is identical).But this is a gem and I also prefer this interior than the basic one of the first Panteras (that also had an horrible american style steering wheel). Bravissimo Giacomo,ci fai sognare!!

    • @RUfromthe40s
      @RUfromthe40s 2 года назад

      already too late ,today old cars are sold by prices that one feels sick because one sold them for 1/10 of the price some years ago. But DeTomaso as other models ,like the mangusto (the cobra or snake eater,because of the AC´s bought by carrol shelby )also coupés ,sedan type and litle cars very good looking and Powerfull. It is rare and expensive to buy today a DeTomaso

    • @kingalfred3902
      @kingalfred3902 2 года назад +1

      All those european cars with their massive american v8 engines....??.
      Where are they today..???..all of them dissapeared from the motoring scene...!!!!....nowhere to be found...gone...!!!.where are Ferrari today ..??..
      We all know that answer right..???
      ON TOP.....!!!!!.....Forza. FERRARI.!!!!!

    • @federicomalignani4957
      @federicomalignani4957 2 года назад +5

      @@kingalfred3902 Dear King Alfred,I agree with you because I own two old Ferraris,a V8 and a V12,but honestly I must admit that those american V8 cars were very good and really were an alternative to Ferraris.Obviously not with the same appeal,not with the same history,but they were much easier to mantain and to drive.Where are they today? Try to buy an Iso Rivolta Grifo or a Bizzarrini 5300 Gt Strada,or even a De Tomaso Mangusta and see the prices. There they are,more or less with the values of a Ferrari.

    • @williamwilliam5066
      @williamwilliam5066 2 года назад +1

      I think you told us five times.

    • @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
      @pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 2 года назад

      Genius!? He designed the pedal box to only be operable by a professional ballerina. Toes together, knees out! And Dance! LoL! Jk....I love his designs, the guy didn't even need a wind tunnel to figure out drag coefficient... genius indeed.

  • @imaweerascal
    @imaweerascal 2 года назад +4

    I don't know what it is about the styling of the Pantera that I love so much - it doesn't have the beauty or balance of the 308, but for me, there is something just so *right* about those proportions. In many ways it's a much more modern-looking car: it wouldn't look out of place as a design from a future Mad Max movie. It's brutal but also delicate :)

  • @KindredAutomotive
    @KindredAutomotive 2 года назад +4

    Years ago I was instructing for a Ferrari Club track day here in the states and my student had a Pantera he received as a graduation gift 30 years ago. I absolutely loved hearing the story of the car and some of his adventures through the years.
    He let me take it out for a session and it certainly was an experience. Anything over 10% throttle exiting a low speed turn was nearly instant spin but over 40mph it was really planted and lots of fun to drive.
    I think the best part though was the fact that he was a true car enthusiast and loved sharing that with others.
    That’s been my experience with the handful of other owners I’ve met, something that I can’t always say about other brands. 🙃

  • @NigelMarston
    @NigelMarston Год назад +1

    One of the best looking cars ever, especially sat on higher profile tyres. Looks just right.

  • @beatglauser9444
    @beatglauser9444 2 года назад +3

    I was never really a fan of the De Tomaso Pantera, but the older models were actually good looking! Like a good wine they get better with age.

  • @roadie3124
    @roadie3124 2 года назад +2

    I really like the early Panteras. I first saw one in a UK car magazine around 1972, I think. Then I saw one badged as a Ford Pantera in a car dealership in Detroit.

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 2 года назад +1

    These were common enough when I was a teen in the 80s. Car shows and working in the auto industry made these a neat thing to see pop up and listen to the owners tell their story.

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074 2 года назад +1

    I’m a big Corvette guy I’ve owned 8 but I would love to have a Pantera with an LS V8 and a manual 6 speed.

  • @zahemi914
    @zahemi914 2 года назад +1

    I used to dream of this car as a kid in the early 80s, so astonishing even now

  • @PortugalCarp
    @PortugalCarp 2 года назад +4

    What a car! I've always liked DeTomasos, they always seemed to be left fielders compared to the rest of the Italian cars. Mind you, those Panteras do look as if someone has slapped the front end of a Ferrari and the rear end of a Lamborghini together lol. Thanks for posting.

  • @tallstrom
    @tallstrom 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for the great review(s)! Such a beautiful Pantera which would IMO look even better with 225/50r15 and 285/50r15 Pirellis :)

  • @butterfliesandtape
    @butterfliesandtape 2 года назад +5

    Always seemed to me that the appeal of the de Tomasos was that tuning was definitely not frowned upon and positively encouraged amongst the owners club here in the UK, at least in the 90s. Nowadays with originality being key that attitude may have changed. Great vid. 3 days with a Pantera. You lucky lucky chap!

  • @dadcars
    @dadcars 2 года назад +4

    I’ve started to love the early, no bells and whistles car designs. The early esprit, countach etc, same can be said with this although the later ones are awesome fun looking things, I never realised their values though! 🤯

  • @canucklehead0
    @canucklehead0 2 года назад +4

    Fantastic video, Jack!!! I think I already commented about seeing a Pantera for the first time in your previous episode, but truly they are my favourite car of that era. The cars from 71-73 did suffer a bit from assembly issues but most were sorted under the Ford Warranty. The DeTomaso club is very good and you can get tips on repairs, upgrades, parts and history. I have always fancied the first cars from 71-73 the narrow bodied cars, there is just something in the Ghia design that I find very alluring. Living in Canada, if I were to seriously wish to put an exotic car in my garage it would be the Pantera. The reliability of the Ford lump, the cost of fixing, parts and of course insurance compared to the Ferrari 308 (Which I still think is possibly the best looking car ever designed after the E-Type Jaguar) is noticeably less expensive. I have had the opportunity to drive a 1973 Pantera and then a year later a hard top Ferrari Mondial and if I'm honest the Ferrari rode better, but in terms of handling the Pantera hands down was far more willing in the corners to stick and grip through the bend than the Mondial was. The DeTomaso was much quicker, or at least felt faster than the Ferrari, and if you wanted to use the cars as GT cars the Pantera had more luggage room with the rear liner in and the frunk than the Ferrari, even though the Mondial has a back seat. Yes I'm a big DeTomaso fan, but I still love Ferrari, the 308 based 288 GTO has to be my favourite car of the 80's and the ultimate version of the 308 platform, and Jack I would love to see you get your mitts on one of those cars!! Cheers - Dave

  • @judih.8754
    @judih.8754 2 года назад +1

    Even with lower HP you still have the torque of that Ford V-8! What a wonderful exotic!

  • @patrickhostler5939
    @patrickhostler5939 2 года назад +21

    One of the (many) things I love about the Pantera, is the American sourced engine. They are brutal, largely bulletproof BUT relatively simple to maintain. Ferrari’s on the other hand seem to be fragile and pedantic with high maintenance costs. As much as I like the look of the Ferrari’s watching yours and especially JM’s films I could never contemplate ownership…

    • @stephenscholes4758
      @stephenscholes4758 2 года назад +2

      Absolute rubbish. Ferrari V12's were designed to last 24 hours of LeMans....which they did with regularity, stretching back to the late-1940s. When pushrod pickup truck v8 's went there ...THEY were the fragile ones...it took a massive and understressed 7 litre Ford to finally win anything. (Ferrari owners don't have to worry about maintenance costs...)

    • @tkreitler
      @tkreitler 2 года назад +5

      @@stephenscholes4758 "Ferrari owners don't have to worry about maintenance costs" Really?

    • @stephenscholes4758
      @stephenscholes4758 2 года назад

      @@tkreitler High income earners 👍

    • @kingalfred3902
      @kingalfred3902 2 года назад +1

      To own a Ferrari....you must first be able to AFFORD one..!!!..ok..??

    • @kingalfred3902
      @kingalfred3902 2 года назад

      @@tkreitler yes..!!!..because they can afford it.....please stick to your pre historic 10 ton cast iron.....engined....American engines.....the rest of us will savour the technical marvels of the european car manufacturers
      .
      American

  • @martinhogg5337
    @martinhogg5337 2 года назад +3

    Another great review, really interesting stuff! Great looking car which has been nicely restored. Can’t get enough of these videos!

  • @williamwidhelm2136
    @williamwidhelm2136 2 года назад +1

    I worked for Ford in 1972-75 in Product Planning. My company car was a '73L followed by a '74. This was when the speed limit was 55 mph. Frankly they were not that much fun to drive at 55 in the city. The controls were kind of heavy and mine struggled to hit 145 mph., my previous car was an E Type which hit 150 easily. Lots of noise and vibration but all that was part of the fun. I gave Farrah Fawcett a ride to her hotel after an ad shoot. She didn't seem that impressed.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 2 года назад

    This gem came from the pen of Tom Tjaarda. In the metal, they look simply lovely. Those if us born in the early '60s knew the de Tomaso name from our Matchbox Mangustas. This was an almost-perfect fusion of Italian style and cheap, effective US muscle. I saw an early car on the road about a year ago. Far, far more visually arresting than the odd, bulbous kit-car wannabe monstrosities that wore the same name in later years. This is the one to covet. I've never driven one, but it has brightened my day whenever I've seen or heard one. Sadly even rarer now than they once were. Good video, thank you.

  • @johnireland1629
    @johnireland1629 2 года назад +2

    Great impression of the car. More interesting than I imagined. I have heard that they have overheating issues, but apparently not in the UK, compared to Texas or Arizona. Keep driving all these different cars.

  • @Niex_Knox
    @Niex_Knox 2 года назад +8

    Gorgeous design. I like it much better than the 308. I thought so as a kid so I know its true 😉

  • @jeandibb4111
    @jeandibb4111 2 года назад +1

    Beautifully restored and modded example. Sounds fab too. Thanks Jack

  • @marcmitchellswingsgrooves
    @marcmitchellswingsgrooves Год назад

    My apologies, I'm a new subscriber and was caught up in your recent Ferrari 308 experience and decision to liquidate the Peugeot, Bentley and Ferrari. I assumed this was the new to you Pantera mentioned and was blown away by it's tasteful mods and it's performance you enjoyed. Can't wait to see you get your car from Texas and share what we all hope is a rewarding experience with it. Thank you for your reply my friend.

  • @charleskeisler716
    @charleskeisler716 2 года назад +1

    The detassimo Pantera has a design that does not grow old and the only problem they had when they came out with overheating problems because of the long radiator hoses, it's just a very light car with a lot of horsepower in the back end, a car that was ahead of its time when it was made.

  • @spartanp2064
    @spartanp2064 2 года назад +2

    I owned both a 308QV and Pantera until last year. I sold the 308 and kept the Pantera. While I enjoyed the 308 I always felt it couldn’t handle turns with confidence due tot he high center of gravity with the engine. The Ferrari is a pretty car but the Pantera is a handsome car if that make sense. Totally agree the front looks unfinished. Interestingly people I meet love the Pantera as I think it has grown in popularity. Thanks for the great video.

  • @chir0pter
    @chir0pter 2 года назад +4

    Love those Campagnolo wheels. Overall the Pantera looks way better than the 308, which along with the 328 honestly always looked kinda frumpy to me unless dressed up in an aero kit

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool 2 года назад +4

    The early models is so much better looking than the wide bodied cars. They are just too in your face for me. You could really have fun with the mods for the engine too. Nice.

  • @matslundstrom7763
    @matslundstrom7763 2 года назад +1

    Me and my girlfried, at that time, were considering buying a Panthera in the late eighties. We were in our early twenties and a decent Panthra were 10000 pounds here in Sweden.
    Panteras are designed by Tom Tjaarda. One of my favorite designers, who has also done the original 124 Spider, Ferrari 330 GT 2+2 and the first Ford Fiesta.

  • @italianduded1161
    @italianduded1161 2 года назад +1

    Another Italian masterpiece !!! 🇮🇹

  • @siriannacortanesca238
    @siriannacortanesca238 Год назад

    The Pantera seems like Ferrari BB had a love child with a Mustang Mach 1, born in Italy but grew up in Detroit. I love the Pantera.
    Thanks for you review.

  • @gordonkachuk5457
    @gordonkachuk5457 2 года назад +2

    In 1973 while living in Toronto I was at the De Tomaso/Ferrari dealership and I recall very clearly the pricing of the Pantera at C$9,999.00 and that of the Ferrari Dino 246 at C$16,500.00. The 308 was't out yet. Sadly I had to settle for an Alfa Romeo 2000GTV for C$6,950.00. But in the end one of the most exciting driver cars, great manners and pretty quick.

  • @MrCarrera28
    @MrCarrera28 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic video of one of my all time favourite cars!!

  • @patrickhemmen
    @patrickhemmen 2 года назад

    Thanks for getting this car on the channel!

  • @TheHomeExpert5
    @TheHomeExpert5 2 года назад +4

    You know, I love the Ferrari gt4. The wedge shape is one of my favorites of all time and the echo in the c-pillar of the window is spectacular.

  • @Bob-nu3xe
    @Bob-nu3xe 2 дня назад

    Saw a Pantera at the 1982 motor show and was hooked!

  • @johangenade9314
    @johangenade9314 2 года назад +1

    did not realize they look so close to a Maserati Merak, good review, thanks Jack !

  • @gregkillick4261
    @gregkillick4261 2 года назад

    Jack your in my territory I sold the first Pantera Calif Red hand built I worked with Bill Stroppe of Bronco fame in Longbeach Signal Hill to get the problems sorted EG changing the radiator return and exit water lines which run through the cockpit The heat was unbelievable the York AC could not cool the cabin so we rerouted them under the car many other delivery rust removal on disc brakes Etc The early cars had radials changed latter to Arriva belted tires Bob Bonburant taught me to drive this car increasing the tire pressure
    on the font tires at Riverside raceway with banking Ford paid for my Modena visit too.
    If the Pantera had a Italian engine the price would have increased way higher but the 351 is such a good engine , the pedals are at an angle to the right which takes some getting use too .
    Thanks for the video much appreciated bring back great memory

  • @malcolmhardwick4258
    @malcolmhardwick4258 2 года назад +1

    You are really spoiling us with these cool cars. Yeah I would have one of these over the 308 !

  • @lensman5762
    @lensman5762 2 года назад

    I used to see one of these, in and around Manchester in 1975 and 1976. I was in a Tech College doing my A-levels then, and I was into cars ( car magazines rather). It looked menacing and sounded awesome. The only other one that I knew about ' belonged ' to a character called Gavin Rumsey, played by the late Lewis Collins, He was the lodger at the home of a couple. The wife character was palyed by the beautiful Diane Keen. I think it was called Cukoo Waltz which was made by Granada TV in Manchester. This brought back memories. Thank you.

  • @zahimiibrahim3602
    @zahimiibrahim3602 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, I really enjoyed that. The early Pantera was my ultimate fantasy car as a schoolboy, American muscle car with Italian style and handling all rolled into one, muscular and modern even today while the Ferrari looked dainty and dated to me even then. Not a fan of the later widebody versions though.

  • @bombakdik
    @bombakdik 2 года назад

    What a lovely review.
    Just a very small tip that I would love a lot is that when you give an overview of the interior and its instruments, to do it a bit slower. I am always fascinate by the fonts and types of dials that are being used in classic cars.
    Very nice video, I truly enjoyed it.
    Cheers from Belgium!

  • @thomasr.6807
    @thomasr.6807 6 месяцев назад

    I love all the chrome being blacked. I know it is not origianal, but I love that look. Styling-wise, DeTomaso is like a cross between Magnum PI's car and The General Lee.

  • @rudolfabelin383
    @rudolfabelin383 Год назад

    A big thanks to Marc!
    Greetings from Sweden.

  • @nealkeith299
    @nealkeith299 2 года назад

    Dear Jack, I really enjoy your videos. You have similar tastes as myself, very eclectic. I've owned over 200 different vehicles including the obligatory Alfas, a V12 Ferrari, multiple Porsches, BMWs, Lotus, Corvette, lots of American muscle cars and trucks. Keep up the good work! Thanks.

  • @shmac96
    @shmac96 2 года назад

    I'm new here. Wow! Great review on such a underdog brand! I remember seeing one in a Dupont Registry magazine as a kid and I was blown away by their looks. Like you said they have something the Ferraris dont. I enjoyed your presentation and style! Thank you!

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 2 года назад

    Awesome video. Thank you for covering cars I've only seen in books and Gran Turismo. Keep up the good work.

  • @dentes1185
    @dentes1185 2 года назад

    The Pantera is a masterpiece. The styling is so simple, you’re sitting on the engine.
    I love that car, especially the early ones.

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 2 года назад

    Glorious car, great review Jack. Nearest I got to that car was one in my Matchbox set which I have recently found after hiding away for 40 years...

  • @maxhugen
    @maxhugen 2 года назад +1

    I bought one of the first Datsun 240z cars, and had a bit of a run against a Pantera, though a windy stretch of a Sydney road. On any reasonably straight section the Pantera totally left me for dead. But I caught it up each time on the corners, where the Pantera looked quite uncomfortable. We finished at Watson's Bay, which is at the South Head of Sydney Harbour. The driver wanted to know if the 240z had been tricked up, but it was stock standard - even the tires.

    • @georgescott632
      @georgescott632 2 года назад

      -Guy obviously had no balls going thru corners. Owner since June 1976.

    • @maxhugen
      @maxhugen 2 года назад

      @@georgescott632 Maybe. Looked to me like the Pantera's weight distribution wasn't helping though.

  • @kevinp3550
    @kevinp3550 2 года назад +1

    This car came out when I was in high school, hooking me on sports cars for life. I knew two fellows who owned them, they faced all kinds of cars, and both claimed that these cars wanted to lift off at high speed. Now I'm referring to American cars, so....
    Thanks for your reviews, I've enjoyed every one! A few requests: Bora, Merak, Daytona, and last but not least, the gorgeous Dino 246. Grazie!

  • @EliteRock
    @EliteRock 2 года назад +1

    The front end is interesting in that the bevelled off nose needed practically no modification at all for the big US bumpers mandated later in the 70's, almost as if the designer had fore-knowledge that they were coming.

  • @markcollins457
    @markcollins457 Год назад

    The Pantera was always a show stopper. The word "GRUNT" is a good word to use when talking about a Pantera, a 308 will never see or hear that word in its description. Thank you again.

  • @MichaelKirbyMusic86
    @MichaelKirbyMusic86 2 года назад

    My gosh that sounds great! Love the wood on the dash too! Didn't know the Pantera had a gated shifter, all looks great!

  • @dantheman7357
    @dantheman7357 2 года назад +6

    Hello Jack, I was not a fan of the Pantera before. I thought it was crude and all about the big V/8 engine with vibrations and noise etc. But...........thanks to the level headed and fair review by Jack I now have a more balanced opinion of the Pantera. Thats one of the reasons I love your channel, it brings me fair comments about some great and not-so-great cars. Please keep the content coming. Thanks once again.

  • @chedhead3278
    @chedhead3278 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Jack, that looks and sounds fantastic.

  • @1sostatic
    @1sostatic Год назад

    I absolutely love this version of the Pantera - Tom Tjaada is a complete genius. The unmistable sound of a 351 Cleve that exists in my Mustangs.

  • @barry7608
    @barry7608 Год назад

    It fits all that I would like, and as you said a little ‘personalising’ may not be deemed a sin. I think it’s a beautiful looking car even today, thanks I remember these well when I was a young fella, ah if only.

  • @scottjohnson4319
    @scottjohnson4319 2 года назад +2

    Great work Jack and thanks for working so hard to bring us these different cars. As for looks I'd have the 308 every time but to live with the choice isn't so simple.

  • @baasbowing
    @baasbowing 2 года назад +1

    Great video Jack!
    But I really miss your DIY content, where you tackle multiple problems on ‘ordinary’ every day cars, or your 308, or Lotus etc. Hope to see more of that in the future.

  • @danven1256
    @danven1256 2 года назад

    In my early days in the automotive field I can remember the Mercury store that I worked at in downtown Portland. Every upper end new car that received a PDI was taken to a car wash across downtown Portland by one of our new car technicians. So one of my co-workers took a brand new Pantera to the car wash and on the way back someone challenged him to a race. He stepped on the throttle and the aluminum pedal broken in half. He had to limp it back to the shop at idle. Unfortunately when I started working at the dealership I just caught the tail end and there weren't very many new panteras coming in till they ended production.

  • @sportfuryman
    @sportfuryman 2 года назад +1

    truly one of the most beautiful cars ever made

  • @RCPowerbusByProxy
    @RCPowerbusByProxy 2 года назад

    It was developed in cooperation with Ford! With a serious engine! How cool is that!
    Ferrari is alway's benchmarked. The awsome Mangusta predecessor, the Pantera the better build. Both incredible.
    Again, very entertainingly brought. Thanks!

  • @randymiles904
    @randymiles904 2 года назад

    Awsome video.. the Pantera and the gt40 are two of my favorite cars of all time.

  • @christophertaylor9100
    @christophertaylor9100 2 года назад

    Someone in my home town had a Pantera and it was so gorgeous to see driving around.

  • @psircos
    @psircos 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Jack...

  • @goldbeachsurfer
    @goldbeachsurfer 2 года назад

    My neighbor down the street from me has a black one, definitely a unique unmistakable sound when he drives by.

  • @Gk2003m
    @Gk2003m Год назад

    Both the Pantera and the Ferrari are beautiful cars. In different ways. The 308 has sumptuous, sexy lines, while the Pantera has a higher aggressiveness (while still having classic lines). I had the good fortune of driving a Pantera back in 1977. Handling was touchy as power was delivered to the wheels far more quickly and forcefully than I (then still a teen) was accustomed to in the mere handful of other cars I’d driven. But I didn’t wreck it, and got to take it to near 140mph. Just awesome.

  • @waynefontaine5533
    @waynefontaine5533 2 года назад +6

    Beautiful car, one of my dream cars actually, and with that Ford 351 Cleveland, arguably the most tunable small block ever built, I'd have too much fun beatin up on camaros and firechickens with this badass little rig...🤘🏻🇺🇸

    • @georgescott632
      @georgescott632 2 года назад

      @@robbiddlecombe8392 Ford guy and Pantera owner from the 60"s, you don't know what you are talking about!

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 2 года назад +2

    All Panteras look good, admit it Jack, you're tempted! 🙏🙏