This is the exact content I was looking for! I was looking to see what my iPad could and couldn’t do vs say Logic Pro and you have laid out some quality points that are influencing my decision making process. Thanks Bro. I will pick up the Urban Mix Guide (?) you mentioned and scoop up the mix rack to have a UI for the plugins. Key for me is to maximize where I am before making huge investments in new equipment, gear, tools etc
I made a decision recently to go all-in on the iPad route, with GB and Cubasis being available, and having a lot of AUv3 plugins, and having left desktop production because I found the technical side a chore/bore and ASIO4ALL is a thing I won’t forget in a hurry. I bought a used iPad Pro M1 with everything it can have, at 3/5 the new price, and also a Belkin F4U095 ThunderBolt3 dock, same way. I realised, with only one TB3 port, the priority was i/o for my Anker USB3 hub, thence backup drive (which I never used to have, again bought a recent model used one, 14Gb), this leads to GarageBand…honestly, if it had 64 tracks, and MIDI out, I am not sure I couldn’t simply hack just about anything else with all the help out there. I saw a demo of Logic Pro, the Grandaddy to GB iOS I suppose, and it reminded why I left desktop! But, my M1 iPad would probably run that fine. I just wouldn’t! The issue of migrating a song would rear its head if I moved to Mac OS, whereas if they brought Logic to iPad, they’d probably sort that aspect for me. Like I say, GB with MIDI out and 64 tracks for my iPad Pro, I’d probably say that’s the big things done. FOR FUN, incidentally, I ran my new M1 iPad with 17 tracks of operational material/instruments, and Cubasis with 40 tracks (about 35 had stuff on, mix of MIDI and audio) SIMULTANEOUSLY - yes I was deliberately trying to reach the limits - and with a slightly discernible 100ms pause at the start, the ‘trigger’ line or cursor of GB pulled away and the racket began. So that’s 52 tracks all-in, running, of software MIDI instruments, and many software effects, I mean I didn’t even bother trying to minimise it…it didn’t break therefore I say it can hack 64-track GarageBand. That’s my tuppence/2c worth, just my opinion, but I did plump for the iPad route, when others said ‘hey, a Mac mini is the same internal M1 chip, and is a ‘grown-up’ GB version, I will take that’. This is totally alright and I almost did it, but the iOS ecosystem is an investment, and I have faith Apple will bridge the great divide - or I will hack the heck out of whatever issue I have. I love GB iOS, so there’s my confession. Thanks for your views, be well, take care. [EDIT: My hot tip, or observation/discovery about iPads is something Windows Users get told up-front…you MUST leave a certain minimum amount of SSD space ‘free’, for everything to function properly. Patently, Apple make this a bit of an impossibility - because I have calculated the amount by empirical trial and error, and it’s 55Gb. That’s the ABSOLUTE minimum, in reality 70Gb is the amount I’ll always make free, but as I have a super-duper M1 ipad with literally 1400Gb free space, I know, weep, right, like the ‘me’ of 8 months ago did, it’s not an issue. Then throw in the fact if you copy manually anything to iCloud, it gets mirrored back over the next two hours, taking up space on your ipad exactly as before - it is NOT a drive ‘D’ - and you seem never able to get rid of that ‘mistake’, and we are needing those features told to us up-front really. MicroSoft tell you Windows needs 100Gb free HDD or whatever, and it should be no surprise iOS/iPadOS is the self-same, but it was, even to me, an IT guy. What goes wrong with less than 55Gb free SSD? Plugins stop remembering their state, stop working properly, instruments glitch, GB crashes and give wrongful error messages which cover up what’s wrong. It is so bad, there are many bad reviews on appstore, I know full well, are people who have not realised the ‘55Gb rule’ and the app you mention is a great example, Mixbox. Some awful reviews, but give that person an ipad with 1000Gb on it, and migrate them up, I bet every single issue disappears. Mine did. So did my Moog problems, and many others. There was one issue, genuinely a Mixbox fault, but that was a blip, they did fix it (some upgrade issue wiped purchases out etc). Done.]
I agree with everything you said but I think you missed the biggest issue. That auto normalization of tracks on exports and merging of tracks. That should be an option. And yes, stem exports would be huge. Everything else I can do with all the other apps I have.
Great rundown! GB iOS has come a long way and it’s a super powerful fast, free, on the go drafting tool. But I still want that detailed control you get in Logic for producing finished tracks!
@@clintmusic1 I know I’m dreaming here but: more time signature options? The ability to change meter/key mid-track? The editable parameters for Alchemy and its presets are impressive and they’ve really stepped up the options for drum programming with Beat Sequencer, but there’s some other areas that definitely fall short. The strings are an awesome addition, but pretty rough for anything but shorts. Still, for short simple electronic stuff it can do a solid job.
You make a very good point. You know that they could very easily add this stuff but if they add too much, you know what you’ve got? Logic Lite… And that’s what I think they should do. GarageBand for more beginners, add what you mentioned and do a fuller featured version… Charge a little bit if they want to… call it Logic Lite or something…But at least make use of the power that the iPad has now. Here in my case I bought the M1 iPad and there’s really no reason for it.. You can run garage band on any iPad basically…
Hey Clint I had a PRO question if you don’t mind me asking….I’m registered with BMI ( under my name ) but I have a separate company name ( not registered with any PRO) .. If I copyright my music should I be looking to do everything under my company name or does that even matter
Are these fixed in the latest updates? Please make an update video about it.
Thank you for your knowledge, not trying to dis what you know. Thank you for sharing bro
I was looking for the exact video💟
This is the exact content I was looking for! I was looking to see what my iPad could and couldn’t do vs say Logic Pro and you have laid out some quality points that are influencing my decision making process. Thanks Bro. I will pick up the Urban Mix Guide (?) you mentioned and scoop up the mix rack to have a UI for the plugins. Key for me is to maximize where I am before making huge investments in new equipment, gear, tools etc
I made a decision recently to go all-in on the iPad route, with GB and Cubasis being available, and having a lot of AUv3 plugins, and having left desktop production because I found the technical side a chore/bore and ASIO4ALL is a thing I won’t forget in a hurry. I bought a used iPad Pro M1 with everything it can have, at 3/5 the new price, and also a Belkin F4U095 ThunderBolt3 dock, same way. I realised, with only one TB3 port, the priority was i/o for my Anker USB3 hub, thence backup drive (which I never used to have, again bought a recent model used one, 14Gb), this leads to GarageBand…honestly, if it had 64 tracks, and MIDI out, I am not sure I couldn’t simply hack just about anything else with all the help out there.
I saw a demo of Logic Pro, the Grandaddy to GB iOS I suppose, and it reminded why I left desktop! But, my M1 iPad would probably run that fine. I just wouldn’t! The issue of migrating a song would rear its head if I moved to Mac OS, whereas if they brought Logic to iPad, they’d probably sort that aspect for me. Like I say, GB with MIDI out and 64 tracks for my iPad Pro, I’d probably say that’s the big things done. FOR FUN, incidentally, I ran my new M1 iPad with 17 tracks of operational material/instruments, and Cubasis with 40 tracks (about 35 had stuff on, mix of MIDI and audio) SIMULTANEOUSLY - yes I was deliberately trying to reach the limits - and with a slightly discernible 100ms pause at the start, the ‘trigger’ line or cursor of GB pulled away and the racket began.
So that’s 52 tracks all-in, running, of software MIDI instruments, and many software effects, I mean I didn’t even bother trying to minimise it…it didn’t break therefore I say it can hack 64-track GarageBand. That’s my tuppence/2c worth, just my opinion, but I did plump for the iPad route, when others said ‘hey, a Mac mini is the same internal M1 chip, and is a ‘grown-up’ GB version, I will take that’. This is totally alright and I almost did it, but the iOS ecosystem is an investment, and I have faith Apple will bridge the great divide - or I will hack the heck out of whatever issue I have. I love GB iOS, so there’s my confession. Thanks for your views, be well, take care.
[EDIT: My hot tip, or observation/discovery about iPads is something Windows Users get told up-front…you MUST leave a certain minimum amount of SSD space ‘free’, for everything to function properly. Patently, Apple make this a bit of an impossibility - because I have calculated the amount by empirical trial and error, and it’s 55Gb. That’s the ABSOLUTE minimum, in reality 70Gb is the amount I’ll always make free, but as I have a super-duper M1 ipad with literally 1400Gb free space, I know, weep, right, like the ‘me’ of 8 months ago did, it’s not an issue. Then throw in the fact if you copy manually anything to iCloud, it gets mirrored back over the next two hours, taking up space on your ipad exactly as before - it is NOT a drive ‘D’ - and you seem never able to get rid of that ‘mistake’, and we are needing those features told to us up-front really. MicroSoft tell you Windows needs 100Gb free HDD or whatever, and it should be no surprise iOS/iPadOS is the self-same, but it was, even to me, an IT guy. What goes wrong with less than 55Gb free SSD? Plugins stop remembering their state, stop working properly, instruments glitch, GB crashes and give wrongful error messages which cover up what’s wrong. It is so bad, there are many bad reviews on appstore, I know full well, are people who have not realised the ‘55Gb rule’ and the app you mention is a great example, Mixbox. Some awful reviews, but give that person an ipad with 1000Gb on it, and migrate them up, I bet every single issue disappears. Mine did. So did my Moog problems, and many others. There was one issue, genuinely a Mixbox fault, but that was a blip, they did fix it (some upgrade issue wiped purchases out etc). Done.]
I agree with everything you said but I think you missed the biggest issue. That auto normalization of tracks on exports and merging of tracks. That should be an option. And yes, stem exports would be huge. Everything else I can do with all the other apps I have.
I understand about region muting. I used a workaround, which was automation, lowering the volume for that area, then bring it back when needed.
Very new to this, just picked up my very first iPad Pro , what about voice effects? Are they decent? thx
Great rundown! GB iOS has come a long way and it’s a super powerful fast, free, on the go drafting tool. But I still want that detailed control you get in Logic for producing finished tracks!
Thanks Chris and yes! More detailed control would be so dope.
@@clintmusic1 I know I’m dreaming here but: more time signature options? The ability to change meter/key mid-track? The editable parameters for Alchemy and its presets are impressive and they’ve really stepped up the options for drum programming with Beat Sequencer, but there’s some other areas that definitely fall short. The strings are an awesome addition, but pretty rough for anything but shorts. Still, for short simple electronic stuff it can do a solid job.
Thanks for that information it is really helpful
You make a very good point. You know that they could very easily add this stuff but if they add too much, you know what you’ve got? Logic Lite… And that’s what I think they should do. GarageBand for more beginners, add what you mentioned and do a fuller featured version… Charge a little bit if they want to… call it Logic Lite or something…But at least make use of the power that the iPad has now. Here in my case I bought the M1 iPad and there’s really no reason for it.. You can run garage band on any iPad basically…
GarageBand iOS has Live Loops, whereas GarageBand Mac does not. But, can you go from a GarageBand iOS live loops project to Logic live loops?
Maaaaan all facts !!! Especially trying to export stems omg!!
Bruh the exporting took waaaaay longer than it should 🤣🤣
Hey Clint I had a PRO question if you don’t mind me asking….I’m registered with BMI ( under my name ) but I have a separate company name ( not registered with any PRO) .. If I copyright my music should I be looking to do everything under my company name or does that even matter
I personally usually just copyright stuff under my personal name.
Thank you !!
A big con of GarageBand is definitely adding effects like panning tracks and automating the filter effect
Agreed! 💯
Another con is no side chain compression
Nah, shouldn't have promoted yourself this Way.
instead of showing your face all the time, show the software.