I know Synnibear is clearly in the wrong here but I can't help getting irritated with how Kumo and Goblin acted in this whole situation acting all smug and betrayed like they weren't accomplices in this mess
The first part when they say shit like “aren’t you supposed to be autistic” kinda weirds me out (as an autistic person..) Like are you implying all autistic people are meant to be stupid???
And using her disabilities (Like saying "I'm Autistic" as an excuse to assaulting Jack) to seem more vulnerable and innocent and stupid is a huge red flag that's like 101 of manipulation.
It's that meek, almost sleepy sounding voice where if she put the mic a little further from her face and enunciated properly, we would hear her better. It's the same shit Peaches tried doing except with less whining. These sick ass fucks love whimpering for the mic as if they *know* it's going to become clipped and posted everywhere
there is so much "im autistic, thats autistic, you're autistic" being thrown around in this drama its really... Gross to hear personally, so much of "i did/said it because im autistic!", Either using it as an excuse OR using it as a talking point about why someone was stupid/wrong for what they did, either used as an excuse or used as a bad thing- Its so uncomfortable to hear. Jar and Synni using it over and over to say that they should be let off easier because they're "autistic" or what they did was really "autistic" OR Synni blaming jack BECAUSE hes Autistic and Disabled leaves a nasty taste in my mouth
@dammit_larry Yeah, that's what self-diagnosis is, I don't like Synni, and I don't know how much research she put in the topic, but that is just what a portion of people with autism in America do. Since the cost to get a medical diagnosis is so high, and when you do you get like no benefits, plus being afab often ends up with you getting misdiagnosed which is another whole bag of worms. Usually when someone does self-diagnosis it's usually done with a large amount of research and outside opinions, and only really done to understand one's self better.
@@anerdyrat No yeah I totally agree with this, I myself am an AFAB self diagnosed autistic person, but considering her manipulative nature it’s entirely plausible that she’s just actually deliberately mislabeling herself in an attempt to get sympathy points.
As a criminal interrogator, I just wanna say the way this situation is handled is dogshit. Synni's confession in that call would be thrown out as a confession under duress. It just feels like nobody in this situation actually cares about justice and just wants a epic clip owning the bad person. The way its supposed to go is building rapport to get an actual willing confession. Tormenting someone until they confess just to make it stop will always be thrown out in a real case, regardless of whether or not the confession is true. The fact alone that she was scared of physical assault would be enough to completely disregard this entire interrogation if it was an actual case.
YES! you can't flood and torment someone like that, it's not the right way to handle things. it sounds like they just wanted to get revenge for themselves, not justice for the victims. she is still guilty and such but this was Not It.
god fr also the way they treat her like shes stupid or a child is so weirdly albeist 😬 "do you even trust yourself 🥺" its so funny the second autistinc person does sth problematic its suddenly okay to bully them and be albeist ??? fucking weird 🙂
That’s the sad thing about these art commentary communities. These people are just *larping* as vigilante forces of justice under personas to boost their egos. They could never be cops in real life, they just want to yell at other nerds on Discord making it look like they’re protecting the children. I’ve seen this end in disaster every drama, that’s why grooming cases should be handled by the families and authorities.
Honestly kumo acting so hurt really pisses me off because almost everyone was telling that man synni was a manipulator and a groomer but it was his dumb ass, who wanted to “go against the sheeple” contacted and spoke to her again when people were actively telling him not to and saying that she’s manipulative, LIKE BRO WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED SHE MANIPULATED YOU????
@@sillycookie didn't he like make a girl commit s/h or smt or is that false info, I know hes just childish all around but didn't he actually do something
“Are you gonna hurt me 🥺🥺🥺🥺” I’m so TIRED of her bs OH MY GODDDD. “I feel like Jack wants to hurt me 🥺 Someone is gonna break in and hurt me🥺” LIKE HOMEGIRL. YOU CREEPED ON A CHILD AND THREATENED YOUR ROOMMATE. NOBODY INVOLVED WITH YOU HAS HURT YOU AS MUCH AS YOU’VE HURT THEM
its cringe that synni is still playing the victim, i remember in like 2018 there was a birdie livestream where birdie was yelling at his parents (the stream where he threatened to kill himself if they turned off the internet) and synni tried to make it about herself by saying "im freaking out!!" every 2 seconds.. but to be fair, jack has a history of being a violent person + has groomed a 14 year old himself, so im not surprised synni is worried about her own safety.. but ig thats what u get for bunking with a completely unstable person who should be in hospice care
@@lemont3a He literally didn’t groom anyone, this has been debunked multiple times, even the supposed victim themself keeps saying he didn’t groom them while still not forgiving him for acting in awful ways💀 even if this was the case he wasn’t a GROWN ADULT, IN A STABLE LIVING SITUATION WITH NO PLAUSIBLE PSYCHOLOGICAL REASON TO HAVE UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR, like synni was when she decided to do what she did to a kid. Bringing up his psychological issues as well and insinuating he’s some sort of rabid bloodthirsty maniac is also rich considering synni legit tried to drive them both off of a bridge like 3 weeks ago
@@dammit_larry yes.. essentially saying "im neurodivergent and a minor" is certainly a "debunk". i never said synni wasn't totally batshit, you should have seen her in 2020, but jack isn't exactly the squeaky clean victim that he's rebranded himself to be either :P
@@lemont3a Yeah, he’s no saint, pretty dang problematic in fact, but bringing up his drama while Synni is literally trying to redirect the attention from herself to him meanwhile literally having attempted to off him and herself until he begged her not to is ridiculously unhelpful and unnecessary
@@lemont3a The big difference here isn’t that he was neurodivergent and a minor, the difference is that he literally was in a state where he could not tell right from wrong and Synni ABSOLUTELY could. That doesn’t make what he did 100% forgivable, but Synni was completely lucid, and also a grown woman, in her decision to repeatedly engage in misconduct with a kid and Jack wasn’t. TL;DR Jack kinda bad, Synni way worse.
In this call and the vid where Jack are confronting her, the way she talks and tone of voice is like a helpless victim anime-ish tone 😭 but in JAR’s vid where she feels comfortable cos she’s not being confronted she sounds perfectly fine
Yo, as someone who's voice goes light when anxious, that might be an anxiety thing. Just saying, stop assuming. I'm not defending her FYI, she's a degen and belongs in prison to be frank imo /srs, I'm just tired of people ALL those years later, making people like me with squeaky voices look like we do this crap on purpose. It was already annoying when people accused Wolfychu of pitching her voice up, and it's STILL somehow a talking point, when we long solved, that some people's pitch and voices change.
@@FainthedCherry I also have this quirk and never in my life do I put the mic close to my mouth and whimper on mic. If I am struggling to talk, I mute. If I need a breather, I ask for it. It's clear that while this may had began as a natural emotional reaction, she 100% used it knowing it was going to be clipped and released. It's fully an attempt to at the VERY least get Kumo to sympathize (though he is so bad at doing this I'm not sure why she is doing this) Stop making people like *me* with squeaky voices look pathetic and defensive on purpose.
Kumo and Goblin are really close to re-create a Rosa Call 2.0 here Rememeber guys, Kumo also down player everything. He is not a good guy. He never was
In the call Kumo kept talking about how JAR was gonna SA her and that she’d “let it happen as long as it meant she’d get her RUclips career back” and that’s just, a really gross thing to say to someone?? Not defending Synni but that was completely out of left field
They were being so abliest and misogynistic. They're the kind of guys that wait for nd person or woman to fuck up to gang up on her while having all the wrong intentions (synni deserved to be called out for grooming, not for being a girl and autistic.)
Was this call productive? No, not really. Other than adding one bit of more proof, no. I mean, as a victim of childhood SA idk if id want every single detail of my grooming and SA to be aired online for people’s entertainment. I hope the victim/s get support for their trauma, and I hope synni recovers from her paraphilia. I hope she goes offline and focuses on recovering from her paraphilia. Enough was a vulnerable 14 year old. Jack was a vulnerable disabled person who was threatened by synni and was then shamed for his disability and accommodations.
This whole situation is fucking crazy, keeps getting worse, like Synni you threatened to kill jack, you flirted with a man who has/had a gf (not sure atp I keep seeing stuff), you groomed a minor, AND you lost some of the only people defending you… embarrassing 😭
God, everyone in this situation is just so immature. Synni is very clearly in the wrong here but 5:50 just really pisses me off. These people act like they weren't accomplices in this entire thing. Justice for the victim seems to have just been entirely forgotten in favour of taunting the groomer THEY defended originally.
Of course it was. This is all premeditated for different outcomes. They want to muddy the legal waters so bad that figuring out the real truth and having reasonable doubt is near impossible in the court. If Synni can't be tried then neither can they as accomplices. This whole "confession" and questioning by these two sounds pre-scripted and I've seen others take that same impression from it.
JAR watching Synnibear admit to actual awful inexcusable stuff on call after literally tossing his remaining credibility into a wood chipper for her: 😦
@@greencat3800 Synni's actions are horrible, but Jar's actions are on a whole nother level of "What the fuck was he thinking???" when you remember the dude HAS a girlfriend 💀💀💀 Bro tossed his credibility and potentially strained his relationship over someone he's never even seen irl before 😭
@@potato_the_chip Man the art community/commentary channels are just wild…. I always fantasized making art and posting it on RUclips, but knowing how much of a dumpster fire the RUclips art community really is, I completely shy away. I tip my hat to the good folks in the art community who are still even standing. 😬
I hate how kumo used autism the way he did,not okay and puts a bad rap on it,not to mention the other things,i think hes just trying to make him look like the good guy when he already showed that he was pretty awful himself.
@@whatisthatsupposedtobe he said that to make her mad? thats why he said "wanna know whats specifically is wrong with me will it make you feel better?" he said it to trap her in a corner
I'm only 2 minutes in and I'm absolutely baffled. Synni finding JAR's flirting to be "strange" and "not something you say" but she did the exact same thing to Jack and called it harmless jokes???
@@C4TALYST_CHEMIC4Lyea he really acts like, “people were right for the wrong the reasons” no bro we were just right and weren’t the “hive mind” you thought we were dumbass..
Kumo defending Synnibear reads like Pkrussl defending Kero the Wolf. Nobody asked for his opinion, he had a poor take that he retracted, and it was more about wanting to be smarter than everyone else and turning out to be a complete dipshit with no knowledge of the situation or the monster they were defending because "EvErYoNe GeTs CaLlEd A gRoOmEr!!"
I know he retracted his defense of Kero, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth in retrospect. I’m glad I haven’t watched his stuff in years because of weird stuff he did years back unrelated to the situation
Dude I KNOW I was like trying to remember what this shit fest reminded me of and it's definitely Pkrussl's situation. This was just a mess. Kumo should've avoided Synni and just went for Birdie if that was the end goal.
this call honestly reminds me of the rosa ramsy call. obviously they’re different, rosa was innocent(for the most part) and synni isn’t. but the interrogation and the way they put synni on the spot feels like the rosa call all over again. again it isn’t the same and they’re on different levels of severity but still. kumo handled this very immaturely and so did goblin
They’re both dogpiling ableist voice calls, I’d say the difference is Rosa was actually disabled enough to where she couldn’t be held responsible let alone even defend herself, while Synthia just wishes she could blame her behavior on her disorders and is bad at defending herself because she’s trying to find excuses for inexcusable behavior. It doesn’t help that kumo and goblin only vindicate her with their cruelty, allowing her to cling onto her perceived victimhood even more.
@@kairos9360 yeah, i completely agree. synni is a grown, capable adult, while rosa is still a grown adult, but she has disabilities which hinder her ability to defend herself. and, kumo and goblin were pretty bad too. they defended a groomer then played the victim card when it didn’t work out. absolutely disgusting from all parties in this situation(minus the victims)
This is why teaching "consent" is important. Easiest example. Boxing. A sport that can be viewed as Fun. But it needs consent, or else its just assault. Even the excuse of "I've done it since I was a child" can not hold water. It's a terrible thing to punch another child without consent, but even more terrible punching a child without consent as an adult. Time and place. A boxing class. But children should not talk about sex to an adult, unless it's about "proper education/therapy". An example of therapy, during a criminal case. "I heard screaming, and saw blood." That's when a trusted adult, like a doctor, therapist, and so on, can talk to a child, to explain the trama. BUT an adult ahould never traumatize a child with a stupid fetish.
Were Kumo and Goblin part of that 'Senate' server where they bullied and tortured a mentally disabled woman? Because this call reminds me of that. These people are deranged, just in different ways. Synni's obsessive gooning. Kumo and Goblin are clearly some kind of sadists who gets off on degrading people. JAR is a damned weirdo and insufferable, but he's the least offensive of this lot.
@@Jan-cc7wb That's ironic, because him and Goblin here are extremely similar sounding and acting to Lio and Peaches before they were exposed. These people are all awful and deserve each other.
@@GHOSTWRITERL It just feels like cycle of projection. Kumo was one of the most vocal critics of LioConvoy, that brought attention to his conduct in calls. Without him, Akumu and Gilded Poo Senate drama would not catch attention of the larger community, and LioConvoy would not be cancelled and Hopeless Peaches would still stay in ACC.
@@Jan-cc7wb Projection sounds right. Still terrible people all around. I'd watch a livestream of all of them stuck in a room with Creepshow Art just to see what they turn into when they cannibalize each other and merge into an amalgate.
Kumo was in the senate and admitted on Stardust's stream he would've taken part in the rosa call if he was awake for it. He has literally never had a problem with how the old senate ran when it was bloodsports and uses multiple servers the same way as the old senate.
This is just a whole mess atp. She needs help from someone who can acknowledge her actions. She needs to get off the internet she's hurt so many people and she's digging her own grave atp. I can't imagine what the victims feel, this is genuinely gonna stick for life. Edit: Oh nah this is ridiculous she knew wtf she was doing by not mentioning that she had Eno read the comic that is sick.
the thing wrong wit her is her personality, but she says shit that shes scared someone online is gonna hurt her to manipulate everyone nd pretend she has such mental damage/illness that she truly believes they can hurt her. she knows they cant. shes jus saying pitiful anime shit to strangers.
I can’t believe people will look at this entire situation and still somehow come at Jack for doing things in his past and raising money to move out. This literal groomer is out here playing victim and just denying everything, and does not believe anything she did was wrong at all. Jack owned up to his mistakes, Synni will never do that. She’s genuinely unbelievable.
@@welcometofardio yea it’s kumo just ranting about his relationship with synni like a fucking child when that literally does not fucking matter, and then goblin doesn’t even say shit until at least almost hour in about Synni admitting to having eno read a rape comic to her, and then the rest of it is just practically bullying her for her autism while kumo acts like some sort of victim in this It’s such a dogshit call
@@welcometofardio I have sadly been in calls like these on both ends of being the accused and being the accuser when I was younger and all of it and I mean ALL of it is just degenerate behavior. I’m glad I deleted discord because by god my life has been so much more better.
This whole thing is just utterly insane. Synnj is not and never will be the victim here, JAR wedging himself in is just utterly PATHETIC. And very weird he’s apparently done this before. Dude needs therapy. Synni in particular. This stuff happened to me when I was a kid, one who’s also autistic. But as soon as I turned 18 (now ib my mid 20s). I’ve never once felt the need to do what Synni (and other freaks) have done, Synni did it because she’s just point blank a freak. Eveb If the cycle of (unfortunate) abuse rhat never should happen is there, the way she switches up the story each time basically is just. Horrible. I hope those she hurt are safe and can heal.
This is so hard to watch. Synni is the WORSE in this situation, but the way kumo speaks to her really puts me off??? Like its making me uncomfortable as hell. Bro is not a anime protagonist (I do NOT support synni in anyways)
Y'know. I feel bad for synni. Like she's fucked up really damn bad. But we already know kumo played a hand in her "response part 1" video. I think he's taking advantage of her situation to try and control her. Cuz her initial response was fine. Upsetting, but not bad. But all of a sudden she's surrounding herself with people who literally wouldn't be defending her if she wasn't a straight white woman. Like kumo and jar are both bigoted scum. That's no secret! And she's not stupid, she knows they're scum, but at this point I think she's just desperate for someone to be on her side and she's settling for the worst of the worst cuz Ig she thinks being alone would be even worst than that. But honestly I think some alone time is what this girl needs. Even if the label groomer is a bit iffy. What synni did was undoubtedly sexual abuse. And yet, she's so caught up in disproving the label "groomer" that she's shooting herself in the foot by trying to downplay what she actually did. Which was sexual abuse. She can recognize the harm she's done and still reject the label but she won't do that and it's just kinda sad to watch.
It kinda reminds me of the Chris Chan situations, Chris is a very dangerous and disgusting individual but was still manipulated my others. Kumo for the entire situation have been extremely gross honestly everyone except like birdie and eno the victim have.
@@Actualbowlofsoup honestly I'm even sorta iffy with birdie. I know they arent a malicious person, but I don't think they behaved very fairly with how they rushed out a video while clearly very emotional. They could barely decide for themselves if what Synni did to them was considered assault of any kind and they did not take the proper steps to find out. A therapist should have heard Jack's concerns LONG before the internet did. I get they were scared and probably having flashbacks, but they did not handle this well and the way they've begun to just pretend it's all hunky dory on their channel isn't helping their case in my eyes. The only person I put zero blame on is eno. Cuz they're a child. But jack and synni, as mentally unwell as they are, they are adults. They both need to learn some restraint. But I'm well aware that's easier said than done.
@@SilkMoth-w1cyeah i can completely agree to that honestly, i guess its different as I’ve seen almost ever debacle surrounding birdie and I’ve learned to kinda get why he acts a certain way. I do think a lot of the ways he went about the situation was pretty inappropriate, especially since he words things very (idk cutesy? I get this is how he types but doing stuff like “im going 2 werk on a video” when referring to grooming is so odd imo) poorly. Eno 100% deserves better though, that poor fucking kid man
6:00 what the hell is wrong with this guy? he’s just using this call as an excuse to be an asshole to her, this is so far from professional it seems like a high school interaction. everyone in this call seems terrible jesus christ.
"Are you gonna hurt me 🥺" OMFG THE WAY SHE TRIES TO BE SEEN AS THE VICTIM ON THIS CALL AND ON JACKS CALL 😭😭 Also, as an autistic person I absolutly despise they use the whole "autism" excuse to literally fucking grooming. Having autism does not excuse her actions
This situation feels so eery. I remember hearing back to the first dramas of Synni and Birdie back when they were like 13 or 15 and now years later she’s really not learning from her mistakes and instead putting a 14yr old in the same positions that she had most likely faced. Her saying things like “stuff like that happened to me as a kid” is so sickening cause it feels like she’s trying to guilt trip people because of her past and try to play the victim. She’s in her 20’s now, she can’t hide behind a silly username when actual harm is being caused to someone. And saying “are you gonna hurt me 🥺” with a sad spongebob pick took me out bro 💀
"Are you gonna hurt me?" Yes, by pushing your drawn avatar into a paper shredder. Honestly though Synni is more likely to harm others and blame them for getting shot when it was a small argument over doing the dishes or something.
5:49 Man... I despise her actions so much but i kind of feel bad for her in this part Not knowing who to trust or even if you can trust yourself is absolutely terrifying. And kumo mocking her is just making it worse.
Now I wanna make it clear I don't not defend synni for any of her actions they are absolutely disgusting. But at the same time, the way she's being treated here is absolutely disgusting
she's a groomer, her anime ass dialog doesn't deserve any sympathy 💀💀💀💀 plus I think she's just acting to gain pity, all that she's been doing this entire time is manipulate others and you're falling right into her trap
@@Brolylomaniac i dunno man, i think being gross with a 14 year old is also absolutely disgusting behavior. just because a pred starts to whine and cry doesnt mean they should expect to be babied
i want to remind everyone that the thing about the rape comic was included in the doc (im not going to double check since its undeniable rn) unless im somehow misremembering learning about it when the doc was released-which i doubt since i learnt about it shortly after the doc dropped
11:58 Nah, in my opinion it's even worse. I think she was trying to guilt trip there, attempting to make up the narrative that she isn't a *predator*, but a *victim of predators* who now acts out due to her trauma. "I've done this since I was a kid, I didn't (know)", possibly trying to bring up the question of who taught her these when she was young. Her begging for sympathy for most of the call also confirms this to me. But I could be wrong, idk
The thing that gets me upset is the fact that kumo started going against Synni not because she groomed minors, but because JAR tried to flirt with her (or in his mind he tried to 'sleep' with her) as he kept referring to JAR as a rap**st
Oh hey Zeph didn’t expect, to see you in this comment section. But yeah I agree! It’s odd for him to be mad over the fact JAR was flirting with Synni, but not over the fact she talks inappropriately with kids? Like I feel like Kumo should’ve been against Synni, for other things than just because of that.
the way this was handled is really weird. not defending Synni, but the way it seems like Kumo and Goblin are like tormenting her to forcefully get answers is just really unprofessional and pretty disturbing. wasn't Kumo literally defending Synni not too long ago? everyone's so in the wrong here, dear lord.
6:10-Kumo seriously sounds like the Joker when he said "Alot is wrong with me." and started laughing. Of course Synni still aint innocent; far from it. But that laugh sounded really fucking creepy.
It still absolutely shocks me JAR defended her, I had to find out earlier today through other RUclipsrs I follow because he nuked it when it was on my notifications. Dude thinking with the wrong head actually upsets me. Also fuck Kumo. I rolled my eyes to the back of my head when he said he's a compassion and empathetic person. He made a girl cut his name into her thigh and when he was in a friend's server he excused that with "she was going to do it anyways". Then made a whole scene taking the discussion to RUclips smearing the people in the VC as pedophiles just for pointing out how fucked that was. So imagine my shock he defends an actual groomer and ONLY flips the script when he's lied to when he was at my friend's throats for far less. Actual dog shit person, never trust the shit that comes out his mouth. I actually think he's so much worse than this groomer because he showed gore to a minor in the same server so as far as I know he's just as bad as this groomer. So tired of hearing about him.
After Lio and Hopeless Peaches, I didn’t think even more dumber people would find each other but I’ve been proven wrong. 💀 What did Kumo, Goblin, and JAR honestly expect out of this? Synni is spineless and is not worth any effort, but none of them wanted to listen.
Synni is so in the wrong but-- Kumo and Goblin could've and should've gone about this differently.... Like everyone in that call made me feel physically ill and just Uncomfortable in my own bones
As an autistic person what really disappoints me about all this is that I really respected her a lot during the Lioconvoy ( Or however you spell his name ) and Hopeless peaches controversy, even though I didn't watch her video's all that much it meant a lot to see an autistic person like her way to call out such horrible people for dogpiling and bullying another autistic person just for mishandling a situation. Such a shame that it had to come to this, hope the victim is doing well.
Reminds me of the hopeless peaches situation and the rosa call where they dug deep on her and bullied her to no end. The intentions were good, but everything else was horrible. Alongside that, the ableism and backtracking was way too prominent for this to not be dismissed as just two bullies drilling in on a pedophile for all the wrong reasons. I, also, could not stand listening to Kumo's voice. I genuinely considered turning on subtitles for the rest of the video, no offense. I don't know these guys (aside from a little about synnibear, damn her to hell), but in this call they sound like horrible people, and occasionally brought up things that had NOTHING to do with the conversation just because. Synnibear also carried herself horribly, and used her own emotions to play around with the actual truth and downplay it to make it seem less important to the story than it actually is. I don't want to start on Synnibear, because I have enough information on her from the few weeks I've been researching this story to determine she is sucky disgusting human being. But anyone who sees this video can tell that a. Kumo and the other person have no idea what they're doing b. Kumo and the other person just wanted to bully and make fun of a very serious situation and c. Kumo knows more than he lets on. Excuse the yapfest.
kinda sucks people are starting to feel bad/more forgiving for a groomer, especially with PATTERNS of being weird towards others, just because she starts to mope and cry. this situation/call was handled poorly and the way kumo used the 'arent you supposed to have autism' thing sucked but synni also used/said the 'im autistic, im stupid!' card in her (now deleted/private) horrible response video, which is disgusting to use when responding to allegations of grooming a child. she needs to stay off the internet.
everything has happened in the past 4 weeks. with the more things that get leaked, the more Sinny digs her own grave, because she is not coming back from this
Now this "leaked" call stuff by these three is.. Like- why does it exist? It didn't do much but make Synn look more bad. We already know what she did :/ she could confess or not. It wouldn't matter. We have proof. And the way this uh, Kumo dude spoke about autism was just. Ew. He and his pal handled this horribly. And I also hate that no one in this vid is worried about the 'actual' victim in this situation 😭 I'm glad for the people who do, and have an actual brain cell.
not to defend synni but this feels like the rosa ramsey call 2.0, just with someone who actually did something wrong and it makes me super uncomfortable
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I know Synnibear is clearly in the wrong here but I can't help getting irritated with how Kumo and Goblin acted in this whole situation acting all smug and betrayed like they weren't accomplices in this mess
Thank you so much for saying this. Because the whole interrogation made me feel uncomfortable lol
The first part when they say shit like “aren’t you supposed to be autistic” kinda weirds me out (as an autistic person..)
Like are you implying all autistic people are meant to be stupid???
@@Germmillionsyeh the random ableism is SO annoying, but it's obvious Kumo himself is a shitty person
@@Germmillions Exactly! Im so glad someone brought this up
they are acting like anime characters it's so embarrassing and i'm glad other people are talking about it
Won't catch me shedding tears for Kumo, Goblin, or JAR. They were warned, yet defended a gr00mer anyway. Stupid games, stupid prizes!!
Preach.
based!!
Facts!
Finally you see the light.
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She's 100% smarter then she lets on, she puts on the fake tears, lies through her teeth, and only hopes and prays that no one fact checks her
And using her disabilities (Like saying "I'm Autistic" as an excuse to assaulting Jack) to seem more vulnerable and innocent and stupid is a huge red flag that's like 101 of manipulation.
It's that meek, almost sleepy sounding voice where if she put the mic a little further from her face and enunciated properly, we would hear her better. It's the same shit Peaches tried doing except with less whining. These sick ass fucks love whimpering for the mic as if they *know* it's going to become clipped and posted everywhere
there is so much "im autistic, thats autistic, you're autistic" being thrown around in this drama
its really... Gross to hear personally, so much of "i did/said it because im autistic!", Either using it as an excuse OR using it as a talking point about why someone was stupid/wrong for what they did, either used as an excuse or used as a bad thing- Its so uncomfortable to hear. Jar and Synni using it over and over to say that they should be let off easier because they're "autistic" or what they did was really "autistic" OR Synni blaming jack BECAUSE hes Autistic and Disabled
leaves a nasty taste in my mouth
Allegedly, she isn’t even autistic and just labeled herself that because someone said she has autistic traits
As an autistic person myself, absolutely agree
@dammit_larry Yeah, that's what self-diagnosis is, I don't like Synni, and I don't know how much research she put in the topic, but that is just what a portion of people with autism in America do. Since the cost to get a medical diagnosis is so high, and when you do you get like no benefits, plus being afab often ends up with you getting misdiagnosed which is another whole bag of worms. Usually when someone does self-diagnosis it's usually done with a large amount of research and outside opinions, and only really done to understand one's self better.
@@anerdyrat No yeah I totally agree with this, I myself am an AFAB self diagnosed autistic person, but considering her manipulative nature it’s entirely plausible that she’s just actually deliberately mislabeling herself in an attempt to get sympathy points.
@@dammit_larry yeah I could totally see that, considering she's been super abliest herself.
Kumo is such a cornball bro he talks like an anime villain
"im a very empathetic person... BUUT i have my limits 😈"
Fr. I hate all of them. Look how far we’ve come in this entire thing surrounding the poor underaged victims. What a bunch of pathetic low-lives.
"What's wrong with you?"
"A lot is wrong with me."
🎶 CRAAAWLING IN MY CRAAAAAWL,
THESE CRAAAWLS THEY WILL NOT CRAAAWL🎶
As a criminal interrogator, I just wanna say the way this situation is handled is dogshit. Synni's confession in that call would be thrown out as a confession under duress. It just feels like nobody in this situation actually cares about justice and just wants a epic clip owning the bad person. The way its supposed to go is building rapport to get an actual willing confession. Tormenting someone until they confess just to make it stop will always be thrown out in a real case, regardless of whether or not the confession is true. The fact alone that she was scared of physical assault would be enough to completely disregard this entire interrogation if it was an actual case.
Finally someone said it.
agreed and it’s actually nice hearing it from someone who’s experienced in the field 💗
YES! you can't flood and torment someone like that, it's not the right way to handle things. it sounds like they just wanted to get revenge for themselves, not justice for the victims.
she is still guilty and such but this was Not It.
god fr also the way they treat her like shes stupid or a child is so weirdly albeist 😬 "do you even trust yourself 🥺" its so funny the second autistinc person does sth problematic its suddenly okay to bully them and be albeist ??? fucking weird 🙂
That’s the sad thing about these art commentary communities. These people are just *larping* as vigilante forces of justice under personas to boost their egos. They could never be cops in real life, they just want to yell at other nerds on Discord making it look like they’re protecting the children. I’ve seen this end in disaster every drama, that’s why grooming cases should be handled by the families and authorities.
Honestly kumo acting so hurt really pisses me off because almost everyone was telling that man synni was a manipulator and a groomer but it was his dumb ass, who wanted to “go against the sheeple” contacted and spoke to her again when people were actively telling him not to and saying that she’s manipulative, LIKE BRO WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED SHE MANIPULATED YOU????
Remember she confidently told people kumo said it was girl room locker talk now he is back tracking because of the backlash
Kumo is a crybaby edgelord who touched the stove even though he was warned it was hot. This was totally deserved.
I think what makes it worse is he has a girlfriend. Much like just a robot. I think they were both trying to get something out of her.
@@sillycookie right and he's made fun of people for the same thing
@@sillycookie didn't he like make a girl commit s/h or smt or is that false info, I know hes just childish all around but didn't he actually do something
“Are you gonna hurt me 🥺🥺🥺🥺” I’m so TIRED of her bs OH MY GODDDD. “I feel like Jack wants to hurt me 🥺 Someone is gonna break in and hurt me🥺” LIKE HOMEGIRL. YOU CREEPED ON A CHILD AND THREATENED YOUR ROOMMATE. NOBODY INVOLVED WITH YOU HAS HURT YOU AS MUCH AS YOU’VE HURT THEM
its cringe that synni is still playing the victim, i remember in like 2018 there was a birdie livestream where birdie was yelling at his parents (the stream where he threatened to kill himself if they turned off the internet) and synni tried to make it about herself by saying "im freaking out!!" every 2 seconds.. but to be fair, jack has a history of being a violent person + has groomed a 14 year old himself, so im not surprised synni is worried about her own safety.. but ig thats what u get for bunking with a completely unstable person who should be in hospice care
@@lemont3a He literally didn’t groom anyone, this has been debunked multiple times, even the supposed victim themself keeps saying he didn’t groom them while still not forgiving him for acting in awful ways💀 even if this was the case he wasn’t a GROWN ADULT, IN A STABLE LIVING SITUATION WITH NO PLAUSIBLE PSYCHOLOGICAL REASON TO HAVE UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR, like synni was when she decided to do what she did to a kid. Bringing up his psychological issues as well and insinuating he’s some sort of rabid bloodthirsty maniac is also rich considering synni legit tried to drive them both off of a bridge like 3 weeks ago
@@dammit_larry yes.. essentially saying "im neurodivergent and a minor" is certainly a "debunk". i never said synni wasn't totally batshit, you should have seen her in 2020, but jack isn't exactly the squeaky clean victim that he's rebranded himself to be either :P
@@lemont3a Yeah, he’s no saint, pretty dang problematic in fact, but bringing up his drama while Synni is literally trying to redirect the attention from herself to him meanwhile literally having attempted to off him and herself until he begged her not to is ridiculously unhelpful and unnecessary
@@lemont3a The big difference here isn’t that he was neurodivergent and a minor, the difference is that he literally was in a state where he could not tell right from wrong and Synni ABSOLUTELY could. That doesn’t make what he did 100% forgivable, but Synni was completely lucid, and also a grown woman, in her decision to repeatedly engage in misconduct with a kid and Jack wasn’t. TL;DR Jack kinda bad, Synni way worse.
Kumo saying that everyone was “right for the wrong reason” is such cope. He can’t handle the fact he was wrong the entire time
Bro can’t accept the fact that he was wrong… so he dug himself a deeper grave.
“everyone was right for the wrong reason” common kumo L
“Are you gonna hurt me” IS WILD 😭
Yeah, when I heard that I busted out laughing
What are they supposed to even do thru the screen 😭
@@Chiptastic500 fr 😭
Bro thinks she’s rebzyyx 💀
@@dammit_larry HELPPPP?
In this call and the vid where Jack are confronting her, the way she talks and tone of voice is like a helpless victim anime-ish tone 😭 but in JAR’s vid where she feels comfortable cos she’s not being confronted she sounds perfectly fine
Yeah especially that part where she started to Breath funny. She sound like a bunch of mating turtles 💀
@@Marta_OuOyeah the “eh..whe- eh…” honestly made me laugh like crazy it’s so wild
this is just a dumb point to make that's how emotions work?
Yo, as someone who's voice goes light when anxious, that might be an anxiety thing. Just saying, stop assuming.
I'm not defending her FYI, she's a degen and belongs in prison to be frank imo /srs, I'm just tired of people ALL those years later, making people like me with squeaky voices look like we do this crap on purpose. It was already annoying when people accused Wolfychu of pitching her voice up, and it's STILL somehow a talking point, when we long solved, that some people's pitch and voices change.
@@FainthedCherry I also have this quirk and never in my life do I put the mic close to my mouth and whimper on mic. If I am struggling to talk, I mute. If I need a breather, I ask for it. It's clear that while this may had began as a natural emotional reaction, she 100% used it knowing it was going to be clipped and released. It's fully an attempt to at the VERY least get Kumo to sympathize (though he is so bad at doing this I'm not sure why she is doing this)
Stop making people like *me* with squeaky voices look pathetic and defensive on purpose.
"I don't appreciate being lied to" What in the Lio convoy ass line was that!
Bros expecting a child pred to tell the truth
Kumo and Goblin are really close to re-create a Rosa Call 2.0 here
Rememeber guys, Kumo also down player everything. He is not a good guy. He never was
In the call Kumo kept talking about how JAR was gonna SA her and that she’d “let it happen as long as it meant she’d get her RUclips career back” and that’s just, a really gross thing to say to someone?? Not defending Synni but that was completely out of left field
I agree, this way the guy talks is uncomfortable, he weirds me out, synni aint right but like Harping on her like that is weird
They were being so abliest and misogynistic. They're the kind of guys that wait for nd person or woman to fuck up to gang up on her while having all the wrong intentions (synni deserved to be called out for grooming, not for being a girl and autistic.)
Defending yourself while rocking a SpongeBob pfp 💀
spongebob would NOT like her 😭
@@strawberrywafflef ”Ugh! Who put you on the planet??”
@@Buuutchhhhhelp me this sounds like those characters that say it like that
I think it's funny how she tries to make herself a "victim" 😭 like the 14 yr old was the whole "mastermind!"
It must be the smartest 14-year-old ever! 😂
Reminds me of the YandereDev situation “you’re manipulating me” “I’m 16”
She's treating the poor minor like he's an anime antagonist or some shit 😭💀🙏
God it reminds me of the White Bowser situation. Well except it was way worse with hik showing loli hentai to minors in a discord server
@@sketchpen777"I GWOPED AN 18 YEAW OLD, NOT A MINUW! YOU LIED TO EVERYONE SMOKEY!"
6:40
Kumo: I'm actually a very forgiving empathetic person...
Me: EEEHHHHHHH🛑🚨
One of the instances where i heard the line after reading the comment.
Yeah no, that's a red flag if I've ever heard one.
nooo you dont get it he’s actually like an Empath hes like Super in tune with other peoples emotions thats why hes so kind towards minorities oh wait
"what the fuck is wrong with you??"
"a lot is wrong with me"
HAS ME DYING ON THE FLOOR
Was this call productive? No, not really. Other than adding one bit of more proof, no. I mean, as a victim of childhood SA idk if id want every single detail of my grooming and SA to be aired online for people’s entertainment. I hope the victim/s get support for their trauma, and I hope synni recovers from her paraphilia. I hope she goes offline and focuses on recovering from her paraphilia. Enough was a vulnerable 14 year old. Jack was a vulnerable disabled person who was threatened by synni and was then shamed for his disability and accommodations.
Kumo and Gremlin are really Lioconvoy's senate part 2
This whole situation does not feel real, and yet here we are
oh hey, pmseymour in the comments of a video about synni
waIT PMSEYMOUR IN THE COMMENTS OF A VIDEO ABOUT SYNNI???
PMSeymour???? What're you doing in my falafel?
12:46 girl tf is he gonna do? Type /e punch?? 💀
REALL
This whole situation is fucking crazy, keeps getting worse, like Synni you threatened to kill jack, you flirted with a man who has/had a gf (not sure atp I keep seeing stuff), you groomed a minor, AND you lost some of the only people defending you… embarrassing 😭
The spongebob crying image is really icing on the cake lmao
God, everyone in this situation is just so immature. Synni is very clearly in the wrong here but 5:50 just really pisses me off. These people act like they weren't accomplices in this entire thing. Justice for the victim seems to have just been entirely forgotten in favour of taunting the groomer THEY defended originally.
Of course it was. This is all premeditated for different outcomes. They want to muddy the legal waters so bad that figuring out the real truth and having reasonable doubt is near impossible in the court. If Synni can't be tried then neither can they as accomplices. This whole "confession" and questioning by these two sounds pre-scripted and I've seen others take that same impression from it.
JAR watching Synnibear admit to actual awful inexcusable stuff on call after literally tossing his remaining credibility into a wood chipper for her: 😦
Definitely a surprised Pikachu face moment. :/
@@greencat3800 Just an example to think with you head, not your.... other "head" 💀
@@potato_the_chip NAAAAH STOOOP-💀
(Honestly, both JAR and P3dobear are very disturbing and disgusting…)
@@greencat3800 Synni's actions are horrible, but Jar's actions are on a whole nother level of "What the fuck was he thinking???" when you remember the dude HAS a girlfriend 💀💀💀
Bro tossed his credibility and potentially strained his relationship over someone he's never even seen irl before 😭
@@potato_the_chip Man the art community/commentary channels are just wild….
I always fantasized making art and posting it on RUclips, but knowing how much of a dumpster fire the RUclips art community really is, I completely shy away. I tip my hat to the good folks in the art community who are still even standing. 😬
I hate how kumo used autism the way he did,not okay and puts a bad rap on it,not to mention the other things,i think hes just trying to make him look like the good guy when he already showed that he was pretty awful himself.
Everyone in this call sucks, they treated this situation so nonchalantly. "Hahahaha! A lot is wrong with me." Okay, edgelord 😭
LMFAO THANK YOU😭 this is the most discord-esc conversation ever
THIS! i cringed so damn bad Hearing all that, who's unironically trying to be this edgy? 😮
@@whatisthatsupposedtobe he said that to make her mad? thats why he said "wanna know whats specifically is wrong with me will it make you feel better?" he said it to trap her in a corner
“Are you gonna hurt me?”
THE WAY MY JAW DROPPED
THE AUDACITY OF THIS WOMAN MADE ME DO A DOUBLE TAKE 😭
“Wahhh wahhhh look at me I’m so vulnerable 🥺🥺🥺” Kinda like the kid you groomed and your ex-roommate when you abused them, Pedobear03.
Yeah honestly same, i couldn't believe what i heard.
This was definitely a calculated move by synni
@@sarahisjustmyvessel noooooo she’s just such a victim and everyone is out to get herrrr 🥺🥺🥺
I'm only 2 minutes in and I'm absolutely baffled. Synni finding JAR's flirting to be "strange" and "not something you say" but she did the exact same thing to Jack and called it harmless jokes???
"Are you gonna hurt me?" Girl what the hell are they supposed to do behind the screen punch you with with a emoji?😭
This whole fucking clip reminds me of a role-play? This is a fucking role-play?
It's like a bad script
YES, this comment describes it perfectly.
It feels so oddly intimate? Like I'm laying on my bed and listening to a couple argue in the apartment next to me. Like what the fuck man
Justice for eno and jack and many other victims
I never imagined Kumo would have his own Rosa call. Following in Lios footsteps I see.
Considering how Kumo talks similar to Lio here too, it’s ironic how this emulates him. It’s embarrassing. 😭
It’s funny bc at least Lio took the L on that, I can’t imagine Kumo having any of the decency to admit he’d be in the wrong for this
@@C4TALYST_CHEMIC4Lyea he really acts like, “people were right for the wrong the reasons” no bro we were just right and weren’t the “hive mind” you thought we were dumbass..
It just repeated cycle of projection.
Hearing this call and jacks call, proves she puts on this victim type voice / mentality when held accountable.
When did Jack have a call? Was it leaked somewhere?
@@Inootakounddcheck jacks video about the whole situation on his channel at the end of the video.
Kumo defending Synnibear reads like Pkrussl defending Kero the Wolf.
Nobody asked for his opinion, he had a poor take that he retracted, and it was more about wanting to be smarter than everyone else and turning out to be a complete dipshit with no knowledge of the situation or the monster they were defending because "EvErYoNe GeTs CaLlEd A gRoOmEr!!"
I know he retracted his defense of Kero, but it still left a bad taste in my mouth in retrospect.
I’m glad I haven’t watched his stuff in years because of weird stuff he did years back unrelated to the situation
Dude I KNOW I was like trying to remember what this shit fest reminded me of and it's definitely Pkrussl's situation. This was just a mess. Kumo should've avoided Synni and just went for Birdie if that was the end goal.
this call honestly reminds me of the rosa ramsy call. obviously they’re different, rosa was innocent(for the most part) and synni isn’t. but the interrogation and the way they put synni on the spot feels like the rosa call all over again. again it isn’t the same and they’re on different levels of severity but still. kumo handled this very immaturely and so did goblin
bump
They’re both dogpiling ableist voice calls, I’d say the difference is Rosa was actually disabled enough to where she couldn’t be held responsible let alone even defend herself, while Synthia just wishes she could blame her behavior on her disorders and is bad at defending herself because she’s trying to find excuses for inexcusable behavior. It doesn’t help that kumo and goblin only vindicate her with their cruelty, allowing her to cling onto her perceived victimhood even more.
Ugh yes this
@@kairos9360 yeah, i completely agree. synni is a grown, capable adult, while rosa is still a grown adult, but she has disabilities which hinder her ability to defend herself. and, kumo and goblin were pretty bad too. they defended a groomer then played the victim card when it didn’t work out. absolutely disgusting from all parties in this situation(minus the victims)
that’s exactly what I was thinking it feels so gross
This is why teaching "consent" is important.
Easiest example. Boxing. A sport that can be viewed as Fun. But it needs consent, or else its just assault. Even the excuse of "I've done it since I was a child" can not hold water. It's a terrible thing to punch another child without consent, but even more terrible punching a child without consent as an adult.
Time and place. A boxing class.
But children should not talk about sex to an adult, unless it's about "proper education/therapy".
An example of therapy, during a criminal case. "I heard screaming, and saw blood." That's when a trusted adult, like a doctor, therapist, and so on, can talk to a child, to explain the trama.
BUT an adult ahould never traumatize a child with a stupid fetish.
Were Kumo and Goblin part of that 'Senate' server where they bullied and tortured a mentally disabled woman? Because this call reminds me of that.
These people are deranged, just in different ways. Synni's obsessive gooning. Kumo and Goblin are clearly some kind of sadists who gets off on degrading people.
JAR is a damned weirdo and insufferable, but he's the least offensive of this lot.
No,they were not on Senate call. Kumo has a long beef with LioConvoy.
@@Jan-cc7wb That's ironic, because him and Goblin here are extremely similar sounding and acting to Lio and Peaches before they were exposed.
These people are all awful and deserve each other.
@@GHOSTWRITERL It just feels like cycle of projection. Kumo was one of the most vocal critics of LioConvoy, that brought attention to his conduct in calls. Without him, Akumu and Gilded Poo Senate drama would not catch attention of the larger community, and LioConvoy would not be cancelled and Hopeless Peaches would still stay in ACC.
@@Jan-cc7wb Projection sounds right.
Still terrible people all around. I'd watch a livestream of all of them stuck in a room with Creepshow Art just to see what they turn into when they cannibalize each other and merge into an amalgate.
Kumo was in the senate and admitted on Stardust's stream he would've taken part in the rosa call if he was awake for it. He has literally never had a problem with how the old senate ran when it was bloodsports and uses multiple servers the same way as the old senate.
The clip of JAR moaning from last video fucking scarred me 💀
The hell?
what
This is just a whole mess atp. She needs help from someone who can acknowledge her actions. She needs to get off the internet she's hurt so many people and she's digging her own grave atp. I can't imagine what the victims feel, this is genuinely gonna stick for life.
Edit: Oh nah this is ridiculous she knew wtf she was doing by not mentioning that she had Eno read the comic that is sick.
“Just the dialogue!” I can only IMAGINE what was read out loud and seen whilst reading it
"Are you gonna hurt me?" Ay yo wtf is wrong with this girl?
the thing wrong wit her is her personality, but she says shit that shes scared someone online is gonna hurt her to manipulate everyone nd pretend she has such mental damage/illness that she truly believes they can hurt her. she knows they cant. shes jus saying pitiful anime shit to strangers.
She ain't beating the victim blaming allegations.
Which, if you see her old videos with Jack, is soooo ironic it's not even funny anymore
A fourth plane has hit the tower
I can’t believe people will look at this entire situation and still somehow come at Jack for doing things in his past and raising money to move out. This literal groomer is out here playing victim and just denying everything, and does not believe anything she did was wrong at all. Jack owned up to his mistakes, Synni will never do that. She’s genuinely unbelievable.
This whole fucking call is cringe from all three of these guys.
Fr. I really don't like Cynnibear and her actions, but this whole call in general just feels very immature. I can't put my finger on it though
@@welcometofardio yea it’s kumo just ranting about his relationship with synni like a fucking child when that literally does not fucking matter, and then goblin doesn’t even say shit until at least almost hour in about Synni admitting to having eno read a rape comic to her, and then the rest of it is just practically bullying her for her autism while kumo acts like some sort of victim in this It’s such a dogshit call
@@welcometofardiomaybe it’s the ‘anime protagonist’ behavior / the fact this whole thing feels like a self centered larp
@@welcometofardio I have sadly been in calls like these on both ends of being the accused and being the accuser when I was younger and all of it and I mean ALL of it is just degenerate behavior. I’m glad I deleted discord because by god my life has been so much more better.
@@sociallyineptsnapper pretty much yeah
This whole thing is just utterly insane. Synnj is not and never will be the victim here, JAR wedging himself in is just utterly PATHETIC. And very weird he’s apparently done this before. Dude needs therapy.
Synni in particular. This stuff happened to me when I was a kid, one who’s also autistic. But as soon as I turned 18 (now ib my mid 20s). I’ve never once felt the need to do what Synni (and other freaks) have done,
Synni did it because she’s just point blank a freak. Eveb If the cycle of (unfortunate) abuse rhat never should happen is there, the way she switches up the story each time basically is just. Horrible.
I hope those she hurt are safe and can heal.
the crying spongebob pfp ties it together 💀💀
Theres always something new with GroomerBear 03. Shes still acting like a victim. Its cringe as fuck.
This is so hard to watch. Synni is the WORSE in this situation, but the way kumo speaks to her really puts me off??? Like its making me uncomfortable as hell. Bro is not a anime protagonist
(I do NOT support synni in anyways)
Y'know. I feel bad for synni. Like she's fucked up really damn bad. But we already know kumo played a hand in her "response part 1" video. I think he's taking advantage of her situation to try and control her. Cuz her initial response was fine. Upsetting, but not bad. But all of a sudden she's surrounding herself with people who literally wouldn't be defending her if she wasn't a straight white woman. Like kumo and jar are both bigoted scum. That's no secret! And she's not stupid, she knows they're scum, but at this point I think she's just desperate for someone to be on her side and she's settling for the worst of the worst cuz Ig she thinks being alone would be even worst than that. But honestly I think some alone time is what this girl needs.
Even if the label groomer is a bit iffy. What synni did was undoubtedly sexual abuse. And yet, she's so caught up in disproving the label "groomer" that she's shooting herself in the foot by trying to downplay what she actually did. Which was sexual abuse. She can recognize the harm she's done and still reject the label but she won't do that and it's just kinda sad to watch.
It kinda reminds me of the Chris Chan situations, Chris is a very dangerous and disgusting individual but was still manipulated my others. Kumo for the entire situation have been extremely gross honestly everyone except like birdie and eno the victim have.
@@Actualbowlofsoup honestly I'm even sorta iffy with birdie. I know they arent a malicious person, but I don't think they behaved very fairly with how they rushed out a video while clearly very emotional. They could barely decide for themselves if what Synni did to them was considered assault of any kind and they did not take the proper steps to find out. A therapist should have heard Jack's concerns LONG before the internet did.
I get they were scared and probably having flashbacks, but they did not handle this well and the way they've begun to just pretend it's all hunky dory on their channel isn't helping their case in my eyes.
The only person I put zero blame on is eno. Cuz they're a child. But jack and synni, as mentally unwell as they are, they are adults. They both need to learn some restraint. But I'm well aware that's easier said than done.
@@SilkMoth-w1cyeah i can completely agree to that honestly, i guess its different as I’ve seen almost ever debacle surrounding birdie and I’ve learned to kinda get why he acts a certain way. I do think a lot of the ways he went about the situation was pretty inappropriate, especially since he words things very (idk cutesy? I get this is how he types but doing stuff like “im going 2 werk on a video” when referring to grooming is so odd imo) poorly.
Eno 100% deserves better though, that poor fucking kid man
Bruh Jack Frost and a furry integrates SpongeBob for being a nonce
6:00 what the hell is wrong with this guy? he’s just using this call as an excuse to be an asshole to her, this is so far from professional it seems like a high school interaction. everyone in this call seems terrible jesus christ.
He told a girl to carve his name into her thigh. Hes a psycho.
@@s.m5576 not even shocking. why is this guy being allowed to interview people he sounds just as bad as synni if not worse
How does she think anyone wants to hurt her when she's the one who admitted wanted to buy a damn gun? 😭
"are you gonna hurt me?" after she literally threatened hers and her roommates life multiple times
If anybodys curious, the artist who made the picture in the thumbnail is Streamline Workshop
"Are you gonna hurt me 🥺" OMFG THE WAY SHE TRIES TO BE SEEN AS THE VICTIM ON THIS CALL AND ON JACKS CALL 😭😭
Also, as an autistic person I absolutly despise they use the whole "autism" excuse to literally fucking grooming. Having autism does not excuse her actions
This situation feels so eery. I remember hearing back to the first dramas of Synni and Birdie back when they were like 13 or 15 and now years later she’s really not learning from her mistakes and instead putting a 14yr old in the same positions that she had most likely faced. Her saying things like “stuff like that happened to me as a kid” is so sickening cause it feels like she’s trying to guilt trip people because of her past and try to play the victim. She’s in her 20’s now, she can’t hide behind a silly username when actual harm is being caused to someone. And saying “are you gonna hurt me 🥺” with a sad spongebob pick took me out bro 💀
Can we get an actual authority or lawyer to talk to her not some random opportunistic people that were closely associated with Synnibear?
"Are you gonna hurt me?"
Yes, by pushing your drawn avatar into a paper shredder. Honestly though Synni is more likely to harm others and blame them for getting shot when it was a small argument over doing the dishes or something.
5:49
Man... I despise her actions so much but i kind of feel bad for her in this part
Not knowing who to trust or even if you can trust yourself is absolutely terrifying. And kumo mocking her is just making it worse.
Now I wanna make it clear I don't not defend synni for any of her actions they are absolutely disgusting.
But at the same time, the way she's being treated here is absolutely disgusting
All these people seem terrible
she's a groomer, her anime ass dialog doesn't deserve any sympathy 💀💀💀💀
plus I think she's just acting to gain pity, all that she's been doing this entire time is manipulate others and you're falling right into her trap
@@Brolylomaniac i dunno man, i think being gross with a 14 year old is also absolutely disgusting behavior. just because a pred starts to whine and cry doesnt mean they should expect to be babied
@@shabadoobalikeameeboo1364 nobody said to baby her or give her a pass
i want to remind everyone that the thing about the rape comic was included in the doc (im not going to double check since its undeniable rn) unless im somehow misremembering learning about it when the doc was released-which i doubt since i learnt about it shortly after the doc dropped
11:58 Nah, in my opinion it's even worse. I think she was trying to guilt trip there, attempting to make up the narrative that she isn't a *predator*, but a *victim of predators* who now acts out due to her trauma. "I've done this since I was a kid, I didn't (know)", possibly trying to bring up the question of who taught her these when she was young. Her begging for sympathy for most of the call also confirms this to me.
But I could be wrong, idk
The least thing I expected was Not a Robot to end up in AMC drama 😭😭😭
Can synni not have a victim complex for 2 seconds 😭💀
The thing that gets me upset is the fact that kumo started going against Synni not because she groomed minors, but because JAR tried to flirt with her (or in his mind he tried to 'sleep' with her) as he kept referring to JAR as a rap**st
Oh hey Zeph didn’t expect, to see you in this comment section. But yeah I agree! It’s odd for him to be mad over the fact JAR was flirting with Synni, but not over the fact she talks inappropriately with kids? Like I feel like Kumo should’ve been against Synni, for other things than just because of that.
Isn’t Kumo the guy who told a girl to cut his name into her leg?
@@TheBigJayAgenda Yep that’s him.
@@parasiticals oh hello^^
Yup! The whole voice call from kumo just comes off as jealousy about Synni then actual seriousness of the issue
@@ArtzZephyr Yeah which is just eugh?? I don’t even know why, Kumo is trying to switch up. Cause imo it’s already, too late for him to do that.
the way this was handled is really weird. not defending Synni, but the way it seems like Kumo and Goblin are like tormenting her to forcefully get answers is just really unprofessional and pretty disturbing. wasn't Kumo literally defending Synni not too long ago?
everyone's so in the wrong here, dear lord.
"are you gonna hurt me"
YES AND I WILL ENJOY EVERY SECOND OF IT.
homestuck!!!!!!!!1!
With the way Synnibear speaks, you can just always tell that she's thinking very carefully before she speaks
6:10-Kumo seriously sounds like the Joker when he said "Alot is wrong with me." and started laughing.
Of course Synni still aint innocent; far from it. But that laugh sounded really fucking creepy.
He is a creep.. the dude told a girl to carve his name into her thigh. Hes a psycho.
All three of them gave me creeper vibes in that call if im honest
It still absolutely shocks me JAR defended her, I had to find out earlier today through other RUclipsrs I follow because he nuked it when it was on my notifications. Dude thinking with the wrong head actually upsets me.
Also fuck Kumo. I rolled my eyes to the back of my head when he said he's a compassion and empathetic person. He made a girl cut his name into her thigh and when he was in a friend's server he excused that with "she was going to do it anyways". Then made a whole scene taking the discussion to RUclips smearing the people in the VC as pedophiles just for pointing out how fucked that was. So imagine my shock he defends an actual groomer and ONLY flips the script when he's lied to when he was at my friend's throats for far less. Actual dog shit person, never trust the shit that comes out his mouth. I actually think he's so much worse than this groomer because he showed gore to a minor in the same server so as far as I know he's just as bad as this groomer. So tired of hearing about him.
This synnibear stuff is getting deeper and deeper like wtf bruh! This is scary.
"Are you gunna hurt me" yeah by /e punch you
really appreciate your editing, super straight to the point and simple !
Of course!! Thanks!
"R u gonna hurt me🥺" tf he gonna do?? Jump through the screen and kill u???
After Lio and Hopeless Peaches, I didn’t think even more dumber people would find each other but I’ve been proven wrong. 💀 What did Kumo, Goblin, and JAR honestly expect out of this? Synni is spineless and is not worth any effort, but none of them wanted to listen.
6:03 not to defend cynni but why is he acting like this, thats actually so cringe why is he talking like that
if i had a nickel everytime someone got called out for being a groomer i would be rich
As someone who has Autism… we do do not claim her AT ALL. Autism does not mean that you have the excuse to be a groomer and SA someone…. Period.
Im still surprised that he is surprised at the backstab.
kumo and gremlin acting like nobody warned them about Synni
This is what happens when you ask kumo to defend you.
You know who kumo sounds like, he sounds just like lio in this call. He feels so superior to her and does that “ohhhh” to everything she says
Synni is so in the wrong but-- Kumo and Goblin could've and should've gone about this differently.... Like everyone in that call made me feel physically ill and just Uncomfortable in my own bones
The SpongeBob begging for change is so funny as a talking sprite
“Are you gonna hurt me” is something I’m gonna quote constantly from now on 😭 why tf is she acting like a victim
As an autistic person what really disappoints me about all this is that I really respected her a lot during the Lioconvoy ( Or however you spell his name ) and Hopeless peaches controversy, even though I didn't watch her video's all that much it meant a lot to see an autistic person like her way to call out such horrible people for dogpiling and bullying another autistic person just for mishandling a situation. Such a shame that it had to come to this, hope the victim is doing well.
These people are all insane. 💀
5:54 had me giggling tbh
Reminds me of the hopeless peaches situation and the rosa call where they dug deep on her and bullied her to no end. The intentions were good, but everything else was horrible. Alongside that, the ableism and backtracking was way too prominent for this to not be dismissed as just two bullies drilling in on a pedophile for all the wrong reasons. I, also, could not stand listening to Kumo's voice. I genuinely considered turning on subtitles for the rest of the video, no offense. I don't know these guys (aside from a little about synnibear, damn her to hell), but in this call they sound like horrible people, and occasionally brought up things that had NOTHING to do with the conversation just because. Synnibear also carried herself horribly, and used her own emotions to play around with the actual truth and downplay it to make it seem less important to the story than it actually is. I don't want to start on Synnibear, because I have enough information on her from the few weeks I've been researching this story to determine she is sucky disgusting human being. But anyone who sees this video can tell that a. Kumo and the other person have no idea what they're doing b. Kumo and the other person just wanted to bully and make fun of a very serious situation and c. Kumo knows more than he lets on. Excuse the yapfest.
Are you gonna hurt me? 🥺
“Are you gonna hurt me” Girl, you’re not Rosa… “I’ve done this when I was a kid,” THAT DOESN’T MAKE IT OKAY, DIPSHIET
kinda sucks people are starting to feel bad/more forgiving for a groomer, especially with PATTERNS of being weird towards others, just because she starts to mope and cry. this situation/call was handled poorly and the way kumo used the 'arent you supposed to have autism' thing sucked but synni also used/said the 'im autistic, im stupid!' card in her (now deleted/private) horrible response video, which is disgusting to use when responding to allegations of grooming a child. she needs to stay off the internet.
she deleted her response video cause she thought "it was bad" lmao
everything has happened in the past 4 weeks. with the more things that get leaked, the more Sinny digs her own grave, because she is not coming back from this
Now this "leaked" call stuff by these three is.. Like- why does it exist? It didn't do much but make Synn look more bad. We already know what she did :/ she could confess or not. It wouldn't matter. We have proof. And the way this uh, Kumo dude spoke about autism was just. Ew. He and his pal handled this horribly. And I also hate that no one in this vid is worried about the 'actual' victim in this situation 😭 I'm glad for the people who do, and have an actual brain cell.
I need to know how she had 2 guys lusting after she got outed?
not to defend synni but this feels like the rosa ramsey call 2.0, just with someone who actually did something wrong and it makes me super uncomfortable
"Are you gonna hurt me?"
I'm making that my notification sound. 😂