We Had A Talk With JUST A ROBOT *Alleged* Victim w/

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @GivenAnt
    @GivenAnt  2 месяца назад +21

    I have heard some criticisms of the interview. Most are fair and I will learn from them. It was my first interview so It was bound to not be perfect.
    We live and learn.
    Anyway, video tomorrow. =)

    • @KENNYLEE0204
      @KENNYLEE0204 2 месяца назад

      This dude called out Camila Cuevas, a RUclipsr who defended a predator, and now he's doing the same thing she did.

  • @jordonthecookie
    @jordonthecookie 2 месяца назад +281

    With him saying " we all have been inappropriate with minors " can we really be surprised he was. I dont think hes a groomer but he was very irresponsible and used this as a opportunity to get free porn, even if they were an adult, its very questionable that he's just asking people to make him rape porn for a damn art role on the server.

    • @skullsNhorror
      @skullsNhorror 2 месяца назад +27

      Take the "we" of his claim and replace it with "I" bc what the fuck do you mean with "we"

    • @jordonthecookie
      @jordonthecookie 2 месяца назад

      @@skullsNhorror nigga better be talking about the Nintendo wii

    • @commandobigladyofficer5953
      @commandobigladyofficer5953 2 месяца назад +21

      " we all have been inappropriate with minors "
      wow that statement has age wonderfully now...bravo JAR bravo

    • @mysryuza
      @mysryuza 2 месяца назад +6

      I understand that he wanna be honest or something, but why did he think it was a good idea to say 💀

    • @beholdenbeholder1937
      @beholdenbeholder1937 2 месяца назад

      ​@@mysryuzaI think making the statement as "we've all been irresponsible on the internet and either didn't think to check everyone's ages in every single situation or didn't think about it all the time, especially as young adults ourselves" would have been a much better statement that much fewer people would disagree with. But JAR is autistic and I realize that makes them less likely to word things as eloquently since they don't really think about it as they say it. Unless it's in a video this quote is from, then that's not really an excuse either.

  • @lulubelle0318
    @lulubelle0318 2 месяца назад +56

    As an adult on the spectrum. I go out of my way to make sure I don't talk inappropriately around minors. This behavior is outrageous.

  • @rabbiteatzx
    @rabbiteatzx 2 месяца назад +237

    Its sickening how almost everyone viewing this situation is blaming the 17 year old and not the 30 year old man

    • @infinitecurlie
      @infinitecurlie 2 месяца назад +29

      Right? Like it doesn't matter if someone is 17 and about to turn 18 in an hour, for that hour they're still a minor and it's on the adult to not be weird with minors. The people blaming the 17 year old are honestly just self reporting.

    • @mynameisambertoo7379
      @mynameisambertoo7379 2 месяца назад +7

      @@infinitecurlie It's VERY important to continuously praise using the block button and saying no though. YES adults should NOT do these things, but minors also need to have a confidence to say no and block when bad adults show up. How on earth people misconstrue that into victim blaming is insane. We are talking about an online exchange, *not* an in person one.

    • @Leafitt
      @Leafitt 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@mynameisambertoo7379 there is no difference between an online exchange with a minor and a irl one.

    • @FinnLeFish
      @FinnLeFish 2 месяца назад +20

      I don't really think legality even matters with age, 18 year olds still act like teenagers, hell they still go to highschool depending on when their birthday is. I'm 22 but I can't help but still see an 18 year old as a kid even though I'm not even that much older. I always find it alarming when grown ass people say shit like "well it's ok for me to be horny with them now cus it's legal now" like, yeah? Ok? I don't really care, I still have morals.

    • @Kaylee-vr6nj
      @Kaylee-vr6nj 2 месяца назад +2

      @@infinitecurliethat’s just dumb. You aren’t able to consent more within an hour lol. Also you know 16/17 is the most common age of consent, right?

  • @that1apple
    @that1apple 2 месяца назад +108

    Honestly glad this interview was done. She explains things so much better than she does in the doc

    • @_Unpleasant_
      @_Unpleasant_ 2 месяца назад +4

      I feel like since it was the first time she made a doc like that it was hard to write, so I think her explaining it outloud was easier for her.
      I helped people on a doc before and its a lot harder to do then people think ngl.

  • @GodzillaJr1998
    @GodzillaJr1998 2 месяца назад +81

    bruh why Jaiden?
    why did he still ask the 17 y/o?
    is he dumb?

    • @Idkhelpidk
      @Idkhelpidk 2 месяца назад +7

      yeah, he is dumb

    • @dibby1724
      @dibby1724 2 месяца назад +31

      And the fact that jaiden has stated that she doesn't like nfsw of her avatar, and is aroace as well. Just gross this whole situation 🤮

    • @N3rdzgummyclusterz
      @N3rdzgummyclusterz 2 месяца назад +1

      in the general chat too wtf man

  • @Skinnybalto
    @Skinnybalto 2 месяца назад +77

    Why are these creeps always so weird about Jaiden Animations?

    • @unfollowtheinstructions6360
      @unfollowtheinstructions6360 2 месяца назад +24

      I'm assuming it's because she's aroace

    • @lunebadru5997
      @lunebadru5997 2 месяца назад +32

      Pretty much all the points, simple design, she is aroace which I think isn't recognized as real to some people, and they are bored and need goon material.
      Not justifying it just looking at the mindset. It's shitty and creepy

    • @JewelWildmoon
      @JewelWildmoon 2 месяца назад +11

      Cuz she said no

    • @pantherspots
      @pantherspots 2 месяца назад +8

      because she's said the nsfw art makes her uncomfortable, so they have to do it because they know she doesn't like it. Same thing happened with the make a wish foundation kids who made mlp characters that went into the show. They asked that the fans not be disgusting about those ponies because they were of make a wish kids and they went insane making as much nsfw art as possible of those kids' ponies.

    • @yomommah6866
      @yomommah6866 2 месяца назад

      Because asshole men like him just love to barge over the boundaries of women. "No" or "this makes me uncomfortable" just makes it all the more fun for those cavemen.

  • @madamefluffy4788
    @madamefluffy4788 2 месяца назад +113

    Bad enough Jar asked for raunchy art from a minor; what makes it that much worse is that the art was of a fellow RUclipsr (doesn't matter if it's the RUclipsr's avatar and not the person behind the avatar; it's still gross because the avatar is that recognizable).
    Reading the comments, folks seem to think that being 17, she should have known better and could have easily backed out if she felt uncomfortable. Unfortunately, it's not that easy when fanatacism is involved. She may have known what she was doing was wrong; but she couldn't say no because the idea of JAR being upset with her for any reason bothered her more. It's only when a person grows out of that fanatacism that they can look back and acknowledge how stupid they were acting (but, by then, it's too late).

    • @HyperScepterOfficial
      @HyperScepterOfficial 2 месяца назад +1

      JAR never asked her to obsess over him. In fact, he probably found it extremely creepy, which is why he doesn’t respond to her DMs as much.
      And why did she talk about this situation now? This is a classic ACC attack on JAR. He just had to fuck up once, and now everyone swarms him with allegations and making shit about themselves. Just like with PML. Just like with CSA. It’s childish and pathetic.

    • @madamefluffy4788
      @madamefluffy4788 2 месяца назад +16

      @@HyperScepterOfficial No celebrity of any sort wants obsessive fans - but you can't tell me that JAR (as the adult) didn't know he was crossing a line by asking a minor to draw him raunchy content. As for why he cut back on the DMs, more sensible people likely got on his case and told him to cut back/cease contact altogether because, once again, she was a minor.
      And why does she bring up her experience now instead of when it happened? Would you have believed her if she came out about it when it happened? Now that JAR has been caught on video (his own that he had deleted and in various calls he had with others) defending another person who groomed a minor and made some really weak excuses for his thoughts/actions (which also paints him in a very bad light), folks may be more willing to listen to her instead of just writing her off as a jaded fan making crap up (especially if she has evidence to back up her claims).

    • @HyperScepterOfficial
      @HyperScepterOfficial 2 месяца назад +1

      @@madamefluffy4788 there is absolutely zero evidence JAR knew about her age until she opened up about it ages afterward. The rest of the conversation in DMs, she is “freshly 18” lmao.
      Also, she was being pressured into doing things by people “she won’t mention?” Something isn’t adding up at all. We’ve had something like this with the inquisitor situations and the pentagrin situation as well. I’m hesitant to just blindly take her word.

    • @Kaylee-vr6nj
      @Kaylee-vr6nj 2 месяца назад +1

      @@HyperScepterOfficialthe same people that complain that she’s 17 completely ignore the fact that most of the world recognizes 16 as being capable to consent to sex.

    • @madamefluffy4788
      @madamefluffy4788 2 месяца назад

      @@Kaylee-vr6nj When did that change? Last I checked, the age of consent in North America is 18.

  • @Marta_OuO
    @Marta_OuO 2 месяца назад +34

    So everyone freaked out due to him not asking for age but but because he asked for a grape art? What 💀

  • @KitKat_293
    @KitKat_293 2 месяца назад +43

    yea i agree with the take that it was s*xual exploitation, but not pedo stuff or an attempt to groom. i don't think JAR got off on the idea that it was a kid or teen drawing it for him. I think he just wanted his jack off material and didn't care about the ethics of who or how he got it.
    but i'm sure he was aware that a teen fan would be eager to please and so would probably deliver. again it's not an attraction to the young person it's just awareness that they will make art for you in a heartbeat, and he didn't care if it would be damaging or unethical to ask a teen fan to create spank bank material for him. JAR didn't give a crap that it's wrong and exploitative, potentially harmful to this teens well-being for all you'd know, crossing a lot of boundaries you should have when in a position of power, and really just kind dickish and selfish
    but yea i do agree i don't think JAR was attracted to this artist by any means. he was just using them knowing a young fan would do anything, even art free of charge. even nsfw art free of charge. which is by definition exploitation.

    • @haroldasusus4684
      @haroldasusus4684 2 месяца назад

      Just because he doesn’t care if he’s exploiting a minor or not doesn’t make it better.
      Like if you are trying really really hard to convince someone to make rape porn of another persons avatar for free you are still trying to exploit them.
      The only difference is the exploitation becomes illegal when they’re a minor not that it become more or less moral

  • @ava-lc8gd
    @ava-lc8gd 2 месяца назад +76

    regardless of her being 17, you can still be influenced into doing any kinds of tasks for someone who you look up to and idolize. she wanted an art role while she was in his server and said she’d draw anything bc she had an established relationship with one of her favorite creators. JAR was the adult in this situation, HE should’ve know better as the adult NOT to ask someone to make a drawing of a person’s OC being raped after he found out her age. there are grown adults who would 10000% be influenced by their favorite celebrity because that is someone who they idolize. we need to stop forgetting that as an ADULT you have the responsibility to treat minors as that. minors. ik a lot of people who were taken advantage of at 17 because 17 year olds aren’t insanely mature. this perception about 17 year olds being functional adults needs to stop, because they’re nowhere near being functional adults. if there is other ppl who can back up her story they should definitely come forward

    • @mysryuza
      @mysryuza 2 месяца назад +11

      THANK YOU. I’m tired of adults and teens saying that being a 16 or 17 is “practically an adult.” Like no, it’s not, that’s weird medieval shit.

    • @ava-lc8gd
      @ava-lc8gd 2 месяца назад +5

      @@mysryuza especially when we now know the brain doesn’t fully develop until the age of 25. 16 and 17 year olds aren’t adults, they’re minors and society needs to treat them as such

    • @weirddd469
      @weirddd469 2 месяца назад +5

      I always found it so weird when people think we're on the same level as full gown adults. They also use this as an excuse for adults dating 17 yrs olds too

    • @ava-lc8gd
      @ava-lc8gd 2 месяца назад

      @@weirddd469 YEP and as a newly turned 18 year old…i’m still at the same maturity lvl as i was at age 17…and let me tell you i am NOT mature at ALL

    • @coffinboy556
      @coffinboy556 21 день назад

      @@ava-lc8gd but still whenever you hear an immature 18 year old it usually goes to some bad things

  • @BloodMarket
    @BloodMarket 2 месяца назад +26

    Honestly asking someone to draw that kinda stuff for an art role is weird no matter their age 😭
    It makes it more wild that he asked it while they were 17 while he is close to being his 30s (idk his exact age)
    This whole situation feels weird overall from all angles.
    Edit: ok now im confused. Did he know that the person was 17 when he asked for the suggestive art or not?

  • @JamiPurple
    @JamiPurple 2 месяца назад +15

    no wonder JAR sided with synny bruh

  • @doghugs6840
    @doghugs6840 2 месяца назад +22

    whoever blames the 17 y/o becuz theyre "old enough to kno its wrong" need to be introduced to the concept of power dynamics and the dynamic between a celeb nd a fan of the celeb nd the influence the celeb has on the fan

    • @weirddd469
      @weirddd469 2 месяца назад +3

      Mf is practically 30 why are we minimizing his role in this anyways? Why are we giving too much to the teenaged fan
      If anything HE should know it's wrong to even ask for that stuff from a minor anyways.

  • @KahRyez
    @KahRyez 2 месяца назад +27

    Good interview, you got a lot more straight answers than what was in that doc.
    I have one question for Choco, if y'all could ask them at some point.
    What was that group chat 'So ya like Diddling Kids?' that was in their DMs, was that the group chat for the doc?

    • @GivenAnt
      @GivenAnt  2 месяца назад +13

      She said when I asked her - That is some jokes from a couple of friends I met on the VR game. And we started making jokes about the P Diddy memes we were seeing. And we decided to create a friend group and we made up the title just about P Diddy. (All of my friends are grown adults just to be aware)
      Same thing with the Porn Spam. That is also a joke title.

  • @sterlingdavis8244
    @sterlingdavis8244 2 месяца назад +17

    This is like night and day compared to JAR's interview with Synnibear.

  • @blackbattles1747
    @blackbattles1747 2 месяца назад +24

    she seems really sweet, she didn’t deserve this

  • @moreisallyouneed4175
    @moreisallyouneed4175 2 месяца назад +12

    Discord with under 18 particpants should require a permit, the owner should pay a member of a third party oversight to moderate all channels and incoming DMs to said minors. If you think this is excessive - it would deter, if not prevent, such instances from happening, let alone being debated. Content creators DO NOT NEED TO TALK TO KIDS

  • @IQofananchovy
    @IQofananchovy 2 месяца назад +5

    to those who think shes an attention seeker
    in her defense, he was the adult at the end of the day, and sexual stuff that arent fully consensual or recognizable (ie if she was genuinely aware and intrested into the nsfw and what she was drawing) can destroy people, it can make them feel gross and traumatized no matter how small it could be (it depends on each person but it can affect people badly sometimes)
    she didnt see things clearly because he was an idol, it makes sense if you forget the "fact" that "17 is old enough to know"
    even if this happened to another adult, theyd have every right to feel at least uncomfortable. 17 is above 16, 17 is one before 18, 18 is literally when someone becomes an adult, 17 is below that and below is below and no other arguments because even then, a 19 year olds brain isnt fully developed. to me this seems wrong because:
    - she was at an impressionable age
    -she idolized him
    -this was NSFW of a youtuber who hated that, was aroace, and is innocent, which can lead to guilt and disgust
    -realizing you did something sexual under any "heart shaped glasses" type, can make someone feel wrong, gross, disturbed
    -she has immense paranoia, which can go extremely far, emotions arent logical, and isnt her fault in any way
    and one thing i say is, anything sexual that someone does, and doesnt fully even know the extent or what theyre doing, it can really hurt them

  • @Oblivion1-q3y
    @Oblivion1-q3y 2 месяца назад +15

    The fact he asked for art of Jaiden is especially bad cause she has been drawn in sexual ways for years and she has been vocal about how much she does not like it.

  • @loutheghost1667
    @loutheghost1667 2 месяца назад +17

    If there is more proof of this allegation i'm going to be terrified,because i used to watch him so long ago and was a fan, and with all that he already got into,its to the point where he might just be 7 feet under metaphorically.

    • @table2.0
      @table2.0 2 месяца назад +5

      Honestly, JAR was iffy regardless of the allegations and things he’s messed up lately.. he was (maybe still is) an anti SJW type and anti-feminist, and looking back at his less political videos, a lot of them just weren’t great..
      I’m sorry you’re watching this star fall, but it was a long time coming I think

    • @loutheghost1667
      @loutheghost1667 2 месяца назад

      @@table2.0 yeah.....your right

  • @pantherspots
    @pantherspots 2 месяца назад +2

    People out here are really still blaming a 17yo for drawing art for a 25 yo when they should be asking why that 25yo sent a whole doc of nsfw art to a minor and requested they draw nsfw for an art role. JAR is the adult in the situation and shouldn't have asked that of a minor to begin with, but he's such a gooner he had to have that art made of an aroace woman who's been sexually harassed for years. He's not a pedo, but he sure is a freak who needs a grippy sock vacation.

  • @TheRealSuperKirby
    @TheRealSuperKirby 2 месяца назад +4

    Ain't no party like a JARty

  • @Kret-o
    @Kret-o 2 месяца назад +5

    Oh it's so robover for him

  • @shogun1x
    @shogun1x 2 месяца назад +4

    Bro JAR is cooked.

  • @LanaK83
    @LanaK83 2 месяца назад +12

    She said “I got more motivated, by the people that I won’t mention….”
    Jars opps at work trying to get him exposed. I hate to say this seems like a pathetic attempt.

  • @redtheawesomeguy
    @redtheawesomeguy 2 месяца назад +6

    bro after i started up the video, i accidentally pressed 5 on my keyboard and was so flabbergasted 😭

  • @yemmypng
    @yemmypng 2 месяца назад +7

    WHAT.
    LEAVE JAIDEN ALONE D:

  • @mewsocoolxd
    @mewsocoolxd 2 месяца назад +4

    jaiden animations cant catch a break

  • @JustCallMeCeles
    @JustCallMeCeles 2 месяца назад +10

    What the dog doin?...

  • @hellyzenthedestroyer2783
    @hellyzenthedestroyer2783 2 месяца назад +1

    Just a robot? More like Just a RoboCREEP

  • @sp3chatesu6669
    @sp3chatesu6669 2 месяца назад +4

    I hope Choco is okay and heals from this 🙏🙏

  • @XxAkiXx42
    @XxAkiXx42 2 месяца назад +7

    this the craziest commentary arc i have ever seen.
    personally the thing that disturbs me the most is the non-con things JAR is into. r*** should NOT be fantasized about or normalized in ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM.

  • @my-nostalgia-is-horror
    @my-nostalgia-is-horror 2 месяца назад +1

    There is MORE DRAMA?!

  • @figmentcocktail3607
    @figmentcocktail3607 2 месяца назад +2

    Just a Gooner

  • @Chirality101
    @Chirality101 2 месяца назад +2

    JAR should delete system 32

  • @hellyzenthedestroyer2783
    @hellyzenthedestroyer2783 2 месяца назад

    Its so horrible to ask porn art of REAL HUMAN BEING

    • @Alizamk1
      @Alizamk1 2 месяца назад

      where's the proof

  • @LinkiePup
    @LinkiePup 2 месяца назад +3

    I am not calling her a lier, but until more evidence comes out I am going to remain skeptical.
    More or less due to the fact the doc was vague, and yet over dramatic.
    Also the way she trips over herself at times. I understand being traumatized, and trying to cope with the reality of things, (we all cope in different ways). But there should’ve been something else. A shakiness in her voice, getting chocked up during the more serious points.
    Now JAR is already in the hole, and I am not trying to defend him. It’s more- Let the dude dig his own grave.
    We don’t need people making shit up to pile on to thing as stuff that’ll never get answered.
    You get me?
    Awful if it happened- but I need more evidence than just one persons story.

    • @pantherspots
      @pantherspots 2 месяца назад +2

      being skeptical of victims is why they get scared to speak out. JAR still asked a minor to draw nsfw if they wanted a role in their server and she did as he asked to get that role. He had a position of power over her and if you think that doesn't play a role for why she did it, and why she's nervous speaking out, i don't know what to tell you. she showed the evidence in the video of his sending the doc of nsfw jaidenanimation art, that's more than enough evidence.

    • @LinkiePup
      @LinkiePup 2 месяца назад +2

      @@pantherspots people just believing victims is why we ended up with the Projerad incident, and the Pyrocynical incident, and even CallMeCarson (though with him it’s a grey area.)
      I am not saying that the victim is lying. I am just saying I need to hear more before we go slinging shit and making ourselves look like idiots.
      Again, awful if it happened. But I need more evidence.

    • @Caught_You200
      @Caught_You200 Месяц назад

      He defended a pedophile publicly and at the very least he fetishizes grape

  • @TarkTheWild
    @TarkTheWild 2 месяца назад +1

    Sack boy sonic making that D8
    I'm so tired bros.

  • @pastorcodymitchell1456
    @pastorcodymitchell1456 2 месяца назад

    i don't listen to him a lot and honestly i just found this out so i kinda dunno what to think or say but the safest bet would be I'm sorry

  • @Chthonic_0
    @Chthonic_0 2 месяца назад +4

    W

  • @AbbyBlackbird
    @AbbyBlackbird 2 месяца назад +3

    ROAST TCR

  • @Alizamk1
    @Alizamk1 2 месяца назад +3

    where's the evidence?

    • @JUSTAROBOTDEFENDER
      @JUSTAROBOTDEFENDER 2 месяца назад

      you dont need that

    • @ponikoTV
      @ponikoTV 2 месяца назад

      No! We need it, i'm not saying jar is innocent and that she's lying, we need proof to exposed him. ​@@JUSTAROBOTDEFENDER

  • @Quintapion
    @Quintapion 2 месяца назад +11

    Sounds fishy

  • @sarahanne__
    @sarahanne__ 2 месяца назад

    Yikes this guy is a weirdo

  • @zucchiniwolf1723
    @zucchiniwolf1723 2 месяца назад

    jesus

  • @DoGTripwire
    @DoGTripwire 2 месяца назад +6

    As much as I would love to see JAR get taken down for something like this, this one just falls too far onto the fishy side of the scale for me to believe.

    • @pantherspots
      @pantherspots 2 месяца назад

      The video literally shows the doc of the nsfw art JAR send to them... Like, how much more evidence do you need.

  • @sliver7993
    @sliver7993 2 месяца назад +4

    I do not see how a 17 year old could be "traumatized" by drawing a lewd for a small youtuber. This seems like a women who wanted to be signal boosted by JAR and is now just trying to bury him while the public is calling him a freak. Talking like you got gRaped is wild victimization.

  • @ToMaSsS10
    @ToMaSsS10 2 месяца назад +9

    >oooh it was agonizing
    who believes this shit

  • @piayqz
    @piayqz 2 месяца назад +27

    She was 17, she could’ve asked if she can draw something else if she felt uncomfortable drawing what she was asked. Not victim shaming but ion believe this crap.

    • @CÜ3IE.89
      @CÜ3IE.89 2 месяца назад +18

      That's what confuses me the most about the situation. You were uncomfortable and didn't want to disappoint your idol, but you were 17. You at least had some knowledge of what you were doing
      Like I would get if she were younger, but your like an almost full-grown adult. I hope I'm not the only one who feels the same....

    • @piayqz
      @piayqz 2 месяца назад

      @@CÜ3IE.89 !

    • @HeatherQuinn-Psykhae
      @HeatherQuinn-Psykhae 2 месяца назад

      I get it not victim blaming but victim being asked why they didn't want to say no to someone they admired and who had social power over them

    • @Comanche8726
      @Comanche8726 2 месяца назад +11

      Bruh

    • @HyperScepterOfficial
      @HyperScepterOfficial 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Comanche8726 “believe all victims” “I stand by Amber Heard” lookin aah