@@kokobopjammer2571what are the odds ppl are hearing this for the first time and feel like they can get some likes if they say “I’m glad to hear you’re improving” lol. We pick on JAR a lot while acting like we’re somehow smart enough to avoid the chopping block. It’s kinda gross when you think about it. 99% chance most of the people here aren’t above JAR in any sense lol.
Lio, you have been someone I disliked because of how you went about things in the community. But after seeing this video, it truly made me understand so much more about you as a person. I’m glad you’ve been taking the right steps to change and move on. I hope you are recovering.
As much as I don’t agree with your past actions. I’m glad you’re improving and taking care of yourself. I’m glad you told JAR what needed to be said. His gf and his roommate didn’t deserve to be dragged into this at all. You have every right to cut JAR off especially if it’s a pattern of his to use people for his personal gain. I hope you’re doing well!
The fact that throughout the entire call jar keeps mentioning "but they were so big" and "but I'm not as big as them" just says all that he really cares about. He DOESNT see people as people, he looks at people and sees sub count, and that tells him how to treat them.
In hindsight, this call was a clear JAR W. Imagine getting "called out" by a canceled geriatric "lion" and coming out with the unconditional respect of the real commentary community...
@@tommycscat I disagree. A common saying goes: "A leopard doesn't change its spots." Although I personally am not subscribed to Lio anymore, Lio's cancellation doesn't mean his word shouldn't hold any worth. He has only proven to be honest in the past, and it's only fair to believe this trait hasn't changed. This call, just like every other call Jar was in, only dunks on him more for his mere incompetence.
As someone who was groomed by someone with a simular age gap to synni and eno, hearing JAR say Eno was "the one who was sexual first" made me VIOLENTLY ill. Eno did not deserve to be called any less of a victim because "Synni is straight" "Synni didn't want to date them" "Synni didn't mean to", Synni still groomed them and deserves to be called out. I feel like this is a mask off moment and I'm glad other people are starting to realize JAR isn't a good person. Holy shit
As a former fan of JAR's, all I can say is this. All of this draws parallels to the story of Icarus, where the end result would see him getting burned by the sun simply for flying too close, and he was told on numerous occasions that he was going to end up getting fried one day. And well... Here we are. And JAR... *_You're Icarus._*
This is the exact metaphor that came to my mind. JAR has admitted multiple times that he's a vindictive person, and now it came back to bite him in the ass.
@@PMbarbieri To be brutally honest, this doesn't come as a shock to me these days since so many so-called "friends" of mine had acted entirely like this and in the end, they got scorned for it for the same reasons. There's a *_very_* select few whom I've given second chances to if they owned up for it. If JAR was one of them, I would not be as forgiving for it.
When I was 14, my best friend who was asexual / straight attempted to rape me and assaulted me. What JAR said actually disgusted me, and I can’t imagine how that must of felt for someone who you considered to be a close friend said that. Im sorry. I’m glad to hear you’re improving, you seem to be genuinely trying and it’s great to see.
@@LaoonCow I feel you. Happened to me when I was 16 from a “straight” adult classmate. Fought like hell and got out of the situation before she could escalate it thankfully. Grooming and assault is often a show of power for people, romantic attraction doesn’t have to apply. It’s simply controlling and harming someone weaker than you for one’s personal fulfillment.
I'm happy to see you doing your very best to improve yourself and moving through the channels despite how hard it's been to get therapy. I have issues where I had trouble with people getting rid of me in my RL, it's hard to trust again but I hope you still can and know not everyone out there is a crappy person who will only be there to use you.
He...he didn't even apologize for what he did to you. He just kept making excuses...And let your reputation dictate his opinion of you. "Like, people know..." omg he's beyond callous. I don't think he understands. I think he knows that people see him as in the wrong, but I don't think he truly *understands*. I've had friends who've been in rough places. I don't just leave them alone or wait to hear what they say to others. Hell, I //especially// don't leave them alone when they feel ideation or unsafe! Take care of yourself, Lio. You deserve so much better. God bless you, man. ❤ EDIT: I just saw some of your art and wtf, it looks downright professional. The hell are they on about??
Its because Lio's art isn't a generic twitter artist style. He's got his own, and it's pretty good! No controversy will ever make me say his art is bad or subpar in anyway, and JAR saying that to get some type of brownie point from Synni was so backstabby.
He didn't even say sorry, it was all about "me, me, me" Fucking selfish as hell. No inner thinking, no self reflecting. JAR really needs to figure his shit out. That, or he should get off his platform. He has no accountability to have one and be a mouth piece for the community. Thank you for being transparent with everything, I send a lot of love and support your way, Lio, in your healing process. You sound a lot better and healthier. You don't need a 'friend' like him.
sorry for the long comment but hey Lio, i hope you’re doing better and i hope you’ll continue to do well. i’ve been previously frustrated with some of your past actions, but i don’t want to hold these against you as you’re someone that wants to change and i’m happy you’re getting help and have a social circle that cares for you. i’m proud of you and your progress, and it’s great you’re still building figures! i’m glad it’s something you’re still doing (also, good on you for leaving out others you felt didn’t need to be mentioned in the call. incredibly considerate!) i want to also extend an apology for JAR using you in this way. this isn’t fair to you regardless of things, and i think the things he said was truly inappropriate and disgusting… my condolences that you’ve lived through those things and i hope you feel support from us in the comments. keep your head up, Lion man
I just wanna say I'm proud of you, dude. Your attitude with stuff like this has changed greatly in the past year, and I'm genuinely glad you're finding yourself in a better situation. You absolutely don't deserve to have dingdongs like JAR. wishing you alll the best. - Debug
1:36 now this is what a genuine apology sounds like. i’m glad you’re doing better lio. the way you carry yourself is completely different from your previous drama videos. i’m proud of you
Has your opinion on Kumo’s intentions changed now that they released their call with Synni? Because he doesn’t take the L at all and honestly acts manipulative as well. He also straight up admits to having ulterior motives in that call as well.
😮💨😔 It's such a shame. I thought JAR had a good head on his shoulders, but it turns out I was wrong. I remember watching some of his old videos when he was doing anti-sjw stuff and I thought he made SOME good points on a few of them. Now, I just feel like an idiot for liking him. Edit: Also, I'm glad that you are taking steps to improve yourself Lio. Anyone who does that after reflecting gets my stamp of approval. 👍
I've been very disappointed with JAR in this whole drama, so I'm glad you gave him a talking to, even if he doesn't listen. As much as I enjoyed your drama content I'm glad you seem to be doing better Lio
I hope this was made before Kumo's call got put out. Kumo is not taking the L or learning for his mistakes. Kumo also believed Synni wasn't a groomer and was fighting with everyone who said she was and called the victim awful names and this was when he had the messages. There is no "JAR was worse" him and Kumo are both scum. Okay no. Even if you had seen the calls, it's borderline disgusting you saying people need to just let Kumo off after all the absolute horrible things he said about the victim and everything he's done in defence of Synni and even the way he acts now while even though he has dropped Synni he still believes he was in the right. I don't give a fuck about the cutting thing considering he's told lie after lie about it, that's just a situation no-one but him will know, he's still fucking scum for what he did and should still be treated the same way JAR should.
the way he talks in subs and “well I made a video in response” is just so separated from reality holy shit…being a youtuber really fucks up some creator’s minds, huh?
Hey so I haven’t watched you in a while, but it breaks my heart to learn what has been going on. I hope things get better for you. Also I wish we could be friends but I’m not good at friendships either. Infact these days I’m distrustful of people online. But again still hope for the best for you. This is “The Purple Artist” by the way! You may not remember me but I’ve appeared in your livestreams a couple of times.
@@Lio_Convoy I’ve been trying to start my own RUclips channel. It’s going to be about me reading my stories and having visuals to them. Visual Audiobooks I guess you can call them.
I’ve been rooting for you to improve but was honestly a bit skeptical about seeing a sort of “drama” video from you, but hearing from your voice this call was a lot more personal than that. I’ve been loving the transformers shorts and am glad you’re moving forward to get the help you need. Hope to see you grow more, excited for other long forms of content you have planned :D
Having witness people like you, Peaches, Doodletones & now JAR, I have learned a valuable lesson: Never ever trust anyone on the internet. Whether good or bad, they will use you for their personal needs or attention. They are not your friends nor your heroes. They are puppet masters & you are their marionette. I'm not saying this to attack you or JAR. That's not the point of this comment. The point I'm trying to make is be careful on what you do or say online. Because consequences can happen even to the most nicest of people. I hope JAR spends some time off the internet & gets the help he needs.
For the record, your art is lovely, Lio. You've made mistakes and you were absolutely wrong for them but I don't think you're evil. I just see a man who's been caught up in a storm FILLED with stupidity and pain, sometimes it becomes too much. People fuck up, but you're at the very least attempting to fix your mistakes. Not many people do that. I'm sorry so many people close to you have betrayed and or hurt you. Nobody deserves that, not even you. Keep your head up, you're flawed but you have a good heart. Just make sure you're keeping the balance of using that heart as well as your head. Do your best man
The sheer sadness in your voice brother..I pray you find your peace Lio. I pray for you and your family that the chains of your past be broken off in Jesus' name. To see you, someone who regardless of what you've done (And I've seen you seek repentance and that's what is important to me.) who is so strong, so obviously hurt..it hurts man. You're in my prayers Lio.
I am so proud of you, Lio! You'd made some big mistakes, but you're clearly taking accountability, took the knowledge of your wrongs to heart, and are really trying to be a better person. Not enough people do that, and that tells me you have a good heart. I've also made huge mistakes, and hurt people dear to me that, 10 years later, the resulting damage is still very clear. We can't change the past, but we can choose what we do in the future. You're a good person at your core, so please remember that about yourself
Hey Lio, its good to see that You have been finding enjoymeant in the toy reviews and Your actively taking care of Yourself, but please don't get pulled back into the Drama it will only hurt You in the long run.
More than happy to see you improving yourself. As someone who was also used as more a weapon than a friend to someone I saw as a sister back in my callout days and has been used for content, you have my deepest sympathies. I wish you the best and look forward to your next transformers review. ❤ Peace and love, Lio.
I am so tired of being disappointed by people, and in people. I'm tired of seeing people I used to admire lose all their friends, hurt other people and/or say downright foul things. I'm sorry JAR didn't act like a friend to you, and I'm sorry that he's making choices that can and might ruin him.
To be honest, to this day you and ponder are the only people i trust in the commentary community Yes, you stepped out of line with rosa. But Rosa is a stalker and allowed ped0s in servers with minors. I still think the anger was justified I wish you the best Lio. I really do
Hey Lio glad to hear you’re doing better, and been trying to improve yourself. I’m really sorry you had to deal with snakes like JAR and Peach’s who used you for their own personal gain. I wish you the best.
As an artist who often visits your chanel for videos to draw to I genuenly couldn't draw to this one. Lio, I am really sorry for what you are going through. I hope you are doing well. Also hearing that snipped from JAR's call with Sinny was so upsetting. There was absolutly no reason to put your art down. I was actualy quite bamboozled (positivley) by how on point your designs were when I first saw them and the fact that you made this offer in the first place is such a kind gesture.
I like Lio's art. It looks like something drawn by a professional artist/animator. I think they were just grasping at straws just so that they don't get caught for the BS they pulled off.
JAR's response shouldnt be "I know" this and "I know" that. It should be, "I am FINALLY starting to realize how MY actions are affecting others and I need to change FAST.
I haven't heard of you until clicking on this video, but you seem genuine, so I'm gonna subscribe to you. I don’t know what mistakes you've made before, but I respect you for everything you've done in this video.
I thought Lio was exaggerating a tad about the call between JAR and Synni being disgusting. I've been trying to watch the call and it is, in fact, unironically disgusting. So many jaw dropping moments. Every time he said "coom" I died a little bit.
Unrelated to the JAR situation, but I like this a lot more where you just have a stern tone at most and are not outright yelling. Looking forward to see you improve further from your drama. Regarding this drama, now we'll just have to see how JAR is going to go forward with all of this and whether he'll actually listen on holding back on posting that finished video he mentioned.
I just listened to this call a few times to absorb all this info all the way and I just feel terrible for what you had to deal with, I know what It's like to put your all in helping someone work on themselves just for them to use you and screw it all up, I went through it with an online friend of mine. I admire the balls you had to confront him about all of this bullshit, I hope everything goes well for you in life.
i just hate how tired you sound talking about this stuff now, but you're a better person for not doing the typical commentary thing of "just make fun of them".
Very glad you've been taking genuine efforts in changing and becoming a better person. Speaking from personal experience, just doing what you love online is SO much easier when you distance yourself from the drama and turmoil. Consider me resubbed. Will check out your reviews shortly. I am so sorry you've been dragged through this repulsive shit, you and your family deserve a thousand times better than this.
It hurts to hear how sad Lio is...I don't even know what to say cuz I'm just so sad for him :[ I just feel so upset for him especially when he was responding to JAR and Synni talking shit about his art and him trying to help the people who got scammed.
God the somber feeling in this video. I’m sorry man. I love you dude, I hope you’re doing well, and I’m happy to see you constantly growing. ❤ this jar stuff hurts man. I’ve watched him for years. To hear him so unhinged, and even the fact he still wants to dig back up TmossBoss is insane. Thank you Lio! You’re awesome man. Again, I hope you’re doing well.
I couldn't even listen to Jar's video as everything was coming out. It made me so mad I had to stop the video and take a break especially his comments on SA. As someone who is a victim of SA it was disgusting. I hope as I was someone that used to watch his content. He gets help. But I hope you Lio you improve from this after everything. I understand what it's like being used as well so I'm sorry you went through that. I can see you're improving and starting to make changed for the better 💜
As a fellow victim of SA/SH myself, that rubbed me the wrong way/sickened me too, especially after everything came out. And as someone also who also used to watch Jar myself, I also hope he gets help as well.
You know whats sad? Prison mate luke pretty much won in getting peaches and jar canceled, im not defending him in any way but he might actually be a prophet, okay jokes aside seeing people i used to watch turning into monsters. I miss the old community
I love that while i was watching this my internet went poo poo, anyway i think JAR had the “Spoctor syndrome” after getting wronged by many he came victorious and sat on the top, ergo his ego skyrocketed. Because what he went through and what he experienced i firmly believe that he seems himself as someone who was in such a mighty status believing he’s able to help those who he deemed in the same situation as he was years ago. But what its infuriating is that he saw the coyote shit, he lived the spoctor and peaches villainous arc, he pointed out how Prison-mate Luke was acting and using the screenshots to twist shit, hell he even was there reading the screenshots that got leaked by Atari, how snaky Pentagone and Stories were behind close doors, he knew that just glazing over the docs/evidence is not enough. And i know he is in the spectrum, i understand that his understanding of social cues is not quite there yet and it might never be if we are honest. But he knows that he should keep some level of professionalism and not joke-flirty to someone who is in hot water, specially if there are allegations AND PROOF of sexual misconduct with minors in repeated occasions. I really don’t believe he didn’t mean ill will, but like i said many times before the method, the everything wasn’t it. He needs to keep in check his ego and open his ears and take in consideration others concern about his future plans.
I generally like to let these sorts of things cook. But I just got to the part where JAR just said he can't afford therapy. If you're in the US there are non profit therapy organizations or counselling, especially if you're in a metropolitan area. True they won't be at the same level of quality that say one you pay through insurance or out of pocket for but if you NEED to talk to someone it's better than nothing. Also most employers are going to have some sort of counseling services or a like care bridge if they don't have a counsellor on hand they can look up non profit in your area. Don't think that just because your financially not well off that you have to suck it up alone. There's help out there it's just a lil tricky to find sometimes. So to you, rando reading this, if you need help please know its out there. You are worth the help and you don't have to be a millionaire to receive it.
I know I shouldn't have been, but I was floored when JAR was basically like oh I watched your video! Instead of...reaching out to you. Or that he consumed videos about you but then he... didn't talk to you and come to his own conclusions of what he would do. And then in the end, that call - as you said in this video multiple times - he has no idea what a friend is. He uses people as stepping stones. I hope he doesn't go through with the apology video either. It's not going to go well. No one is going to believe him even if he grovels and the commentary community is going to JUMP on him because they have their popcorn ready at all times. He needs to get off the internet, self reflect, get a lot of therapy (probably have several therapists with one just being his babysitter), and grow up. And then maybe he can come back (but when he does, all of this is going to come right back up). I am interested to hear what you have to say about Kumo, especially after everything else happened and how he, (IMO) instead of taking his L's, striked a small channel, doubled down on it, and then deleted everything and left. He came off like someone who can dish it out but not take it when it comes back to him, and that he has a massive ego who also needs to grow up. But that's IMO. But honestly though, great job on talking to JAR and walking him through it and just telling him point blank how it is and why. I hope he takes your words to heart.
Lio, being someone who doesn't know you, and is only writing this from the perspective of a viewer of how everything unfolded over the years, your personal growth is commendable and I am super happy to see it. Kudos dude =]
At first, I was going to be disappointed to see one of these types of videos from you again after wanted to change and break away from it, but I wanted to give it a chance and I'm glad I took it. I can tell you're changing and learning better from everything that happened and I'm glad you can finally focus on what you love instead of sacrificing your health over this stuff. While I still have a lot of mixed feelings, I'm not going to ignore that you're definitely different from before. I'm also glad you're on medication, it's a life changer (Finally got on mood stabilizers this year for my Bipolar Type II, absolute God send) Anyways, this was also a good video. I'm sorry you had to dip your feet back into that stress despite it. P.S. Love the Arcee. I have uber Transformers autism and have four different action figures of Starscream, including the one with his crown and cape from the animated movie
@@Lio_Convoy Oh my god, I just saw them- I love that so much! The only disappointing thing for all of us is that we can't get the giant 12,000 dollar transformable Unicron figure 😔
I actually found you from the call where you confronted Fluffy about what she and Chaos55t spread about JAR. I'm still here because I believe that you are working on improving and have always been honest. Also because I like TMNT and Transformers too.
hearing them poke fun at your artwork during that tidbit of the Synni call was awful (the whole situation was awful but Im unaware of the rest of this call) ;w; I thought you offering to do that was sweet. You didn't deserve them laughing at your expense all because Synni wanted to take money and run.
"Who wants art from him...hardly anybody likes him anymore lol." I have no idea how to even...tackle that tidbit myself. Like do those two only care about artwork if there's a popular artist behind it? Last I checked, most people who commission do so because they like somebody's art style. It's really telling of both of their mindsets. Then there's Lio was willing to donate his own time, effort, and skill to give people Synni fucked over at least something for their money out of pure kindness....and she shits on it? Like...he wouldn't have to put the offer out there if it wasn't for the fucking fact she was cutting and running...and she wants to be a catty bitch over it? Where the fuck does she get off with that shit? Fuck me man if that little dig the two of them did didn't piss me right off. Lio wanted to be charitable and they shat on him for being willing to help the people SHE ripped off.
@@Shatterstar exactly like even then wasn't this supposed to be an interview JAR was having with her about her grooming a minor?? I don't understand why it was being used as a gab girl session
@@Umbreelievable I have no idea. Lio came to JAR's defense and cleared his name when fuckwits who cannot let shit go tried to peg him as a groomer with false allegations. And here JAR is shitting on him attempting to do right for strangers who got fucked by the person he's casually chatting with...the same person who used JAR and threw him under the bus the second she could. They're both playing games and fucking around to try and deal with this mess they made at the best angle.
JAR made me more disappointed than ever before. This year has been such a rollercoaster ride, and I’ve been witnessing too many people falling off the rails. Aye Carambá! I hope you feel better soon, Lio. You deserve better than this drama BS.😔
ah this call explaind a lot and broke my heart at the same time. I know understand why Jar's vids got so much worse (and the Suzie vid)... but it broke my heart to hear your sadness about everything. I like your change, lio. It's good the change is good for you, even when there is still a lot to do infront of you. It get's better. And I really do enjoy your shorts! I'm sending random internet stranger hugs.
tbh I'm kinda relieved that I wasn't the only one who didn't like the tone in that video, cause of how much it felt like kicking someone while they were down
This reminds me of that scene from Scarface where Tony Montana gets scolded by his former boss, Frank, for replacing him with a notorious kingpin named Sosa. Reason being is because he would get paid a lot more money and he would rise to power. Frank knew Sosa was bad news and tried to tell Tony that what he was doing was a terrible mistake, but Tony just shrugged it all off. As Tony and his friend, Manny, are leaving the office, Frank says this statement: _Tony, remember what I told you when you started:_ _The ones who succeed in this business are the ones who fly straight - the low-key and quiet ones._ _But the guys who want it all - chicas, champagne, flash............THEY DON'T LAST!_ But once again, Tony rebuffs it and just walks out the door. In the end, his lust for power, control, and money was his tragic downfall. With a touch of white powder on the side, of course. Sadly, JAR has met that same downfall with how he's handled pretty much every situation he's gotten into and refusing to listening to anyone's sound advice. Normally, I would like to see someone rise up again from a fall. But in JAR's case, I honestly don't know. What I *do* know is that he needs to get off the Internet for an extended amount of time to better himself, and to connect with real-life friends and do fun activities with them. That's bound to help him.
JAR is delusional thinking his fans aren't haters. I think a lot of OG-long time fans from the beginning who can think are pissed, and don't support him anymore.
Well, hear it from a fan of JAR since 2016. He was my second favorite RUclipsr because he had conservative views while also being a nerdy guy and not some old Gen type. He royally messed up this time and I mainly attribute this to incompetence. Right now I do not know how I should feel until what JAR does after this, if he takes Lio's advice, then he can redeem himself in my eyes.
@@jeremychicken3339 unless he can change his personality which would take years to do, I think the nature if his character isn't suited for journalism. He didn't find a story, gather evidence, and concluded a truthful narrative. Rather he found his own narrative from the beginning and skewed the evidence to fit the story he wanted to tell. He approached this story possible with the worse take imaginable.
@@Trey_Travis A book titled "Touching Spirit Bear" has a counterpoint on this, a person can change in 2 ways, 1 is a slow push from their line, the other is a big event.
Speaking of his fans, the synni video has a part where he talks about her sending softcore porn to the minor, and he just explains the definition of softcore porn “for those of you who don’t know”. It’s weird and just makes it look like he’s explaining it to his audience because they’re also minors.
@@henrynelson9301 what I find worse is something that Chud didn't bring up to JAR when he should have. JAR didn't take the rape comic in consideration. That slightly more hardcore, but also just over all worse than mundane porn considering the fact that is was well... rape.
I’m praying for you, Lio. I’m so sorry for how JAR treated you and others. I know what one-sided friendships feel like, and they’re painful. I hope you’re doing and will continue to do better, and just remember what Owl City once said; “when the rain falls down, when it all turns around, when the light goes out, this ISN’T the end.” Keep your chin up, sir. I don’t care what your detractors say about you, even if and when they were justified in their criticisms. I believe people do change. We’re rooting for you, and we’ve got your back, man.
Kumo did what he did to get at Birdie. He called Queen Seraphina an autogynephile because he disagreed with her about the database stuff. The kid has shown some major transphobic behavior. Please be careful with trusting him.
@@plateofspaghetti5029Life is good. There's good days and bad days but as a whole, life is more than fulfilling. You don't have to exist is a constant state of grift to maintain meaningful relationships. In the real world, HarleyTBS looks like he's doing some grandmother on chemo cosplay, condemning his parents for not drugging him with amphetamines to "treat" self-diagnosed ADHD. Like, what?!? It's time to stop. Grow up, and if you feel like psychiatric treatment may be of benefit, see a psychiatrist. (Just like any other medical disorder legally diagnosed by an educated, licensed professional.) Lastly, understand that self-diagnosis is not an example to set in a "safe space." Just stop. Bonus: Rather than sit online calling randos racist, go out in the real world and work with people from different races and backgrounds... in person. Learn what the world is before criticizing it
@@BurnBot_TVin one of Kumo’s livestreams, it was one of his “lions and spiders” ones, don’t remember which, he used every transmisogynistic trope in the book against Sera just because she disagreed with him about the Database stuff. There are other videos where he uses anti-trans language against Nil, Susie, and Fuschia, but I think his comments on Sera were the most egregious.
Unfortunately transactional “friendships” are extremely common online. I have basically no real friends, only two really. We talk like once a weeks sometimes. I feel like growing up terminally online (started at 12), I really grew to see these “friendships” as normal, so I can really empathize with yah on this one. Genuinely hope that therapist you been looking for shows up, take care man.
Im glad you are changing for better. I would liked to apologize for the messages i sent to you on Twitter . Even if i lost respect for you, its not right for me to quick you while you are down, and it was petty on my part. I hope you're able to recover from peaches too. Having someone like that in your corner would do damage to even the strongest man. If this means anything i do respect you for being able to move on from all of this and doing the things that make you happy and finding the routes to your problem to keep your temper. I wish you luck on your journey, god bless.
In a very parasocial way: i appreciate you very much, Lio. Hope you're doing alright, despite all the shit that people have been giving you for literal months for what it seems. I wasn't expecting you to get involved in this topic publicly, as you're taking a step back, as you've said, and because of how much the internet has already come down on JAR for his awful behavior in this, but it's very satisfying to know you're taking the trash out today. it's kinda upsetting to hear the sadness in your voice throughout the commentary section, but you should know that your attempts of kindness are very valued. Perhaps not by the right people, but you're an honorable man who has pretty much earned my respect for life after everything you've done for victims so unconditionally and have taken accountability with the intention to actually change.
As much as I’m not a fan of your past actions, along with your methods this is- Honestly with you through and through on this, the way you spoke about your own adverse experiences made me sad. I’m a victim of grooming and other horrible forms of abuse. I’ve never felt so much second-hand anxiety in all of the interviews JARs had. It's painful to see him just dig a bigger hole for himself. Especially because he is defending something quite unforgivable, I can’t see myself being in his position and doing what he did and still shooting myself in the foot. I honestly don't understand how he could have messed up this badly, that video was insane. You would think that all of the past dramas in the community would prove to him that not every accusation is going to require his input, let alone defense, but I guess not.
i do miss time when you still made these type of videos. but i'm glad you decided to take a step back and do things that you actually like doing and take responsibility for your mistakes. hope things will go better for you soon, stay strong Also can i say it's got me baffled that JAR just ditched you because you got cancelled but willing to have his back for an already proven sex offender (because he didnt read the full log but not like he give a shits to begin with). Who he go to to get help comfort him to sleep instead of his girlfriend that he's in relationship for 2 years. Horrible or stupid idk, maybe both
Lio thank you I know said thank way to many times I’m sorry for making community post about you I didn’t know jar wasn’t your friend for four months. I’m happy you chewed out jar I’m glad did it thank you.
I’m very pleased you’re taking care of yourself. I’m glad you didn’t take on Synni’s case. I think you cracked the code with JAR in that he sees friendships as purely transactional. It seems he’s always been that way on RUclips, jumping from community to community and dropping people when he no longer finds them useful. I hope he changes. I hope you continue on your journey of self realization and healing
You know, I had lost respect for you when all that shit came out about you months ago. But this call shows me you're a man who truly wishes to be better. I am not adding anything new, but how you handled this was way better than most of the other calls... Thank you, Lio, for being a man of your word and actually growing to be better. Take care of yourself, Bossman
I said it as much when Jar was letting Zaid/MissAnthroPony in his videos. I literally stated how this isn't a good idea, and if anything were to happen for he does, that should only fall on him. (Reffering to JAR to those who don't get it) I didn't mind much about re-upload his videos. That's one thing. Having him basically make videos is another.
Honestly as someone who has been a fan of his channel since 2019 I am also very disappointed and disgusted to see what Jar has done, seriously what a way to destroy your career by cheating on your girlfriend just so you could simp for a groomer🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ At the very least I am glad to see you doing the very best to improve yourself Lio, hope your doing currently well.
I haven't been to this channel for a long time, and I've grown very critical of you, Lio. However, I am glad that you are working on yourself. As bad as many of your past actions have been, I do hope you find the means to better yourself and that you can stick to doing the content that actually brings your joy. That being said, I believe you gave Kumo too much credit regarding his involvement in this situation. He should not have been involved with this situation at all. Regardless of his intent, which I don't believe was as good as you do, his impact matters more. What happened was that he got played and made an ass of himself. I am normally open to people changing for the better, but skirting around with someone like Synni was the same thing as JAR: He shot his career, or what little there was, in the foot. It would appear he's deleted his channel, and it's probably best he stays away. As a side note, I don't believe JAR was being entirely honest with you in this call. The whole reasoning for Spoctor, I believe, is because JAR doesn't actually stand by what he says or has any convictions of his own. Like you said, he will wait until a winning side presents itself before jumping in to provide his "perspective" and pretend it was correct all along. He's a snake in the grass, plain and simple. It's fortunate that he finally got caught, and people will be looking into him more closely. Maybe then he'll finally learn something. I hope you find the help you need in any case.
I don’t feel I’m giving Kumo credit: only grace. I’d rather give someone grace they don’t deserve than condemnation that they don’t. I think I’ve done enough of that. I know why he deleted his channel, but that’s a private matter. As far as JAR lying to me…..you’re probably right. But at the same time, it’s not my problem anymore, you know?
Bro I hate ppl that can’t take there shit or can’t say sorry, I feel you brother, listen my this is my first full vid love ur shorts, u didn’t deserve that
And that's why I stay over on the homesteading and stationery side of RUclips most of the time. Damnit Jar.... Love ya Lio! I've been loving the transformers content.
Bruh, Jar was the one who hop on the illymation drama, and defended the person that has falsely claimed that poor woman as a Woke, when he had no proof of it, and cut the video out of context, because of his bias, while showing no care for her being doxxed. I'm glad to see you improving and getting the help you get, Lio. The past cannot be removed, but you can still learn from it and surround yourself with people at would care and love you as the person you are, and would help you change as well.
Just to clarify. Yes, I heard the call that JAR had with Doodle ages ago. The reason I heard it was because it was part of a situation that concerned me. So if JAR has a problem with any of that, he can grow a pair and tell me himself
I've been in Akumo's camp since he started his revenge campaign. However, I feel like this one was deserved and you handled it well. This is pretty much how I would react to an old friend who left me for dead too. You handled it better than most people probably expected you to and walked away with a bitter sweet W. I honestly hope you continue to improve as well. Not having people like JAR and Peaches in your life will help with that and I wish you the best of luck with finding a therapist you feel comfortable with, good luck out there.
I hated you before you got "canceled" because I thought you were an asshole, and I watched you because I thought you were lame for yelling at losers online. But you genuinely seem like you are making strides to improve your behavior and your temper. I applaud you for acknowledging that you were going down a bad path and for actively working on it.
There’s a lot I could go into about how I behaved and why: not that it inherently excuses when the behavior was bad. Just that there’s more to it I’ll probably talk about in the future.
I'm glad you're taking responsibility for what you did to Rosa. I hope you get better. Truly.
Respectfully, hes always taken responsibility for the Rosa call. He’s taken responsibility for it for the past year and a half now
@@kokobopjammer2571what are the odds ppl are hearing this for the first time and feel like they can get some likes if they say “I’m glad to hear you’re improving” lol.
We pick on JAR a lot while acting like we’re somehow smart enough to avoid the chopping block. It’s kinda gross when you think about it. 99% chance most of the people here aren’t above JAR in any sense lol.
@@Kaylee-vr6nj none of us are flirting with PDF files, so Id say we are better than JAR 😂
@@kokobopjammer2571 there’s a good chance most people here have probably done something close to that wrong
@@Kaylee-vr6njsnitching on yourself 😭
Lio, you have been someone I disliked because of how you went about things in the community. But after seeing this video, it truly made me understand so much more about you as a person. I’m glad you’ve been taking the right steps to change and move on. I hope you are recovering.
As much as I don’t agree with your past actions. I’m glad you’re improving and taking care of yourself.
I’m glad you told JAR what needed to be said. His gf and his roommate didn’t deserve to be dragged into this at all.
You have every right to cut JAR off especially if it’s a pattern of his to use people for his personal gain. I hope you’re doing well!
I was gonna say, I feel like I can already kind of hear a change in how lio approaches these sort of confrontations I'm glad to see it
What did he do?
What did he do
@@bluefacestan1826 watch full vid
That last part... I guess he was no exception to what he described about the ArtCC.
The fact that throughout the entire call jar keeps mentioning "but they were so big" and "but I'm not as big as them" just says all that he really cares about. He DOESNT see people as people, he looks at people and sees sub count, and that tells him how to treat them.
In hindsight, this call was a clear JAR W. Imagine getting "called out" by a canceled geriatric "lion" and coming out with the unconditional respect of the real commentary community...
@tommycscat Better than being TommyC’s Scat tho. You’re gross.
@@tommycscat I disagree.
A common saying goes: "A leopard doesn't change its spots."
Although I personally am not subscribed to Lio anymore, Lio's cancellation doesn't mean his word shouldn't hold any worth. He has only proven to be honest in the past, and it's only fair to believe this trait hasn't changed. This call, just like every other call Jar was in, only dunks on him more for his mere incompetence.
@@tommycscat”real commentary community” lol who gaf
@@tommycscatwhat are you on about?
As someone who was groomed by someone with a simular age gap to synni and eno, hearing JAR say Eno was "the one who was sexual first" made me VIOLENTLY ill. Eno did not deserve to be called any less of a victim because "Synni is straight" "Synni didn't want to date them" "Synni didn't mean to", Synni still groomed them and deserves to be called out. I feel like this is a mask off moment and I'm glad other people are starting to realize JAR isn't a good person. Holy shit
Do you know how expensive rent is? @@xenostra
I think you can take shots about Jack’s GFM somewhere else, please.
You will, or you will not be posting here. Make your choice.
@xenostra Nope. Just going to ban you from the channel and be amused that you’re so butthurt you have to make alts :)
@@Lio_ConvoyI wonder what it said probably defending jar and sydinnibear7
As a former fan of JAR's, all I can say is this. All of this draws parallels to the story of Icarus, where the end result would see him getting burned by the sun simply for flying too close, and he was told on numerous occasions that he was going to end up getting fried one day. And well... Here we are.
And JAR... *_You're Icarus._*
This is the exact metaphor that came to my mind. JAR has admitted multiple times that he's a vindictive person, and now it came back to bite him in the ass.
@@PMbarbieri To be brutally honest, this doesn't come as a shock to me these days since so many so-called "friends" of mine had acted entirely like this and in the end, they got scorned for it for the same reasons.
There's a *_very_* select few whom I've given second chances to if they owned up for it. If JAR was one of them, I would not be as forgiving for it.
@@BlisteredBloodI remember you use make commentaries I liked your videos by the way.
@@RAC00NFANGIRL I appreciate that.
please don't romanticize this degeneracy; there's really no need for flowery analogies. he's not Icarus, he's just a really pathetic dork, lol
When I was 14, my best friend who was asexual / straight attempted to rape me and assaulted me. What JAR said actually disgusted me, and I can’t imagine how that must of felt for someone who you considered to be a close friend said that. Im sorry. I’m glad to hear you’re improving, you seem to be genuinely trying and it’s great to see.
Sorry if this question is offensive, but if they were Asexual, why would they try to rape you?
@@LaoonCow I feel you. Happened to me when I was 16 from a “straight” adult classmate. Fought like hell and got out of the situation before she could escalate it thankfully. Grooming and assault is often a show of power for people, romantic attraction doesn’t have to apply. It’s simply controlling and harming someone weaker than you for one’s personal fulfillment.
I'm happy to see you doing your very best to improve yourself and moving through the channels despite how hard it's been to get therapy. I have issues where I had trouble with people getting rid of me in my RL, it's hard to trust again but I hope you still can and know not everyone out there is a crappy person who will only be there to use you.
He...he didn't even apologize for what he did to you. He just kept making excuses...And let your reputation dictate his opinion of you. "Like, people know..." omg he's beyond callous.
I don't think he understands. I think he knows that people see him as in the wrong, but I don't think he truly *understands*. I've had friends who've been in rough places. I don't just leave them alone or wait to hear what they say to others. Hell, I //especially// don't leave them alone when they feel ideation or unsafe!
Take care of yourself, Lio. You deserve so much better. God bless you, man. ❤
EDIT: I just saw some of your art and wtf, it looks downright professional. The hell are they on about??
Its because Lio's art isn't a generic twitter artist style. He's got his own, and it's pretty good! No controversy will ever make me say his art is bad or subpar in anyway, and JAR saying that to get some type of brownie point from Synni was so backstabby.
I’m glad to hear you’re working to improve yourself Lio, it’s good to see you working to change yourself. I hope you’re doing well
He didn't even say sorry, it was all about "me, me, me" Fucking selfish as hell. No inner thinking, no self reflecting. JAR really needs to figure his shit out. That, or he should get off his platform. He has no accountability to have one and be a mouth piece for the community. Thank you for being transparent with everything, I send a lot of love and support your way, Lio, in your healing process. You sound a lot better and healthier. You don't need a 'friend' like him.
14:02 "you aren't the farmer, you're just a slightly larger cow" DAMN 🔥🔥🔥
This was a hard listen, not because Im on jars side but because you can hear Lios heart break, the actual despair in him. It hurts
sorry for the long comment but hey Lio, i hope you’re doing better and i hope you’ll continue to do well. i’ve been previously frustrated with some of your past actions, but i don’t want to hold these against you as you’re someone that wants to change and i’m happy you’re getting help and have a social circle that cares for you. i’m proud of you and your progress, and it’s great you’re still building figures! i’m glad it’s something you’re still doing
(also, good on you for leaving out others you felt didn’t need to be mentioned in the call. incredibly considerate!)
i want to also extend an apology for JAR using you in this way. this isn’t fair to you regardless of things, and i think the things he said was truly inappropriate and disgusting… my condolences that you’ve lived through those things and i hope you feel support from us in the comments.
keep your head up, Lion man
I just wanna say I'm proud of you, dude. Your attitude with stuff like this has changed greatly in the past year, and I'm genuinely glad you're finding yourself in a better situation.
You absolutely don't deserve to have dingdongs like JAR. wishing you alll the best.
- Debug
1:36 now this is what a genuine apology sounds like. i’m glad you’re doing better lio. the way you carry yourself is completely different from your previous drama videos. i’m proud of you
Has your opinion on Kumo’s intentions changed now that they released their call with Synni? Because he doesn’t take the L at all and honestly acts manipulative as well. He also straight up admits to having ulterior motives in that call as well.
😮💨😔 It's such a shame. I thought JAR had a good head on his shoulders, but it turns out I was wrong. I remember watching some of his old videos when he was doing anti-sjw stuff and I thought he made SOME good points on a few of them. Now, I just feel like an idiot for liking him.
Edit: Also, I'm glad that you are taking steps to improve yourself Lio. Anyone who does that after reflecting gets my stamp of approval. 👍
I was kind of disappointed with this whole situation because you didn’t do videos like this anymore and I knew JAR was in your social circle. Neat
I've been very disappointed with JAR in this whole drama, so I'm glad you gave him a talking to, even if he doesn't listen. As much as I enjoyed your drama content I'm glad you seem to be doing better Lio
I hope this was made before Kumo's call got put out. Kumo is not taking the L or learning for his mistakes. Kumo also believed Synni wasn't a groomer and was fighting with everyone who said she was and called the victim awful names and this was when he had the messages.
There is no "JAR was worse" him and Kumo are both scum.
Okay no. Even if you had seen the calls, it's borderline disgusting you saying people need to just let Kumo off after all the absolute horrible things he said about the victim and everything he's done in defence of Synni and even the way he acts now while even though he has dropped Synni he still believes he was in the right. I don't give a fuck about the cutting thing considering he's told lie after lie about it, that's just a situation no-one but him will know, he's still fucking scum for what he did and should still be treated the same way JAR should.
Another comment said the same thing. Lio said that this call took place on the 10/15/2024, before the Kumo/Synni call release.
the way he talks in subs and “well I made a video in response” is just so separated from reality holy shit…being a youtuber really fucks up some creator’s minds, huh?
This was the saddest I ever heard about you lio it hurts to hear this.
Hey so I haven’t watched you in a while, but it breaks my heart to learn what has been going on. I hope things get better for you.
Also I wish we could be friends but I’m not good at friendships either. Infact these days I’m distrustful of people online. But again still hope for the best for you.
This is “The Purple Artist” by the way! You may not remember me but I’ve appeared in your livestreams a couple of times.
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN
@@Lio_Convoy I’ve been trying to start my own RUclips channel. It’s going to be about me reading my stories and having visuals to them. Visual Audiobooks I guess you can call them.
I hope your journey to healing is a smooth one. This kind of hurt can be difficult to process. Bless be, Lio.
I’ve been rooting for you to improve but was honestly a bit skeptical about seeing a sort of “drama” video from you, but hearing from your voice this call was a lot more personal than that. I’ve been loving the transformers shorts and am glad you’re moving forward to get the help you need. Hope to see you grow more, excited for other long forms of content you have planned :D
also the arcee model is sick 🔥🔥🔥
Having witness people like you, Peaches, Doodletones & now JAR, I have learned a valuable lesson: Never ever trust anyone on the internet. Whether good or bad, they will use you for their personal needs or attention. They are not your friends nor your heroes. They are puppet masters & you are their marionette.
I'm not saying this to attack you or JAR. That's not the point of this comment. The point I'm trying to make is be careful on what you do or say online. Because consequences can happen even to the most nicest of people. I hope JAR spends some time off the internet & gets the help he needs.
“ For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts.”
For the record, your art is lovely, Lio. You've made mistakes and you were absolutely wrong for them but I don't think you're evil. I just see a man who's been caught up in a storm FILLED with stupidity and pain, sometimes it becomes too much. People fuck up, but you're at the very least attempting to fix your mistakes. Not many people do that.
I'm sorry so many people close to you have betrayed and or hurt you. Nobody deserves that, not even you. Keep your head up, you're flawed but you have a good heart. Just make sure you're keeping the balance of using that heart as well as your head.
Do your best man
You should really release the entire unedited Synni call, since you have access to it.
I might
@@Lio_Convoy
Please do. 🙏
@@Lio_Convoyplease do! We need this.
I don’t know if it’s /needed/, but I’m sure it’s wanted.
@@Lio_Convoy That's fair. That's valid.
All in all, if it's something that you want to do in hindsight.
The sheer sadness in your voice brother..I pray you find your peace Lio. I pray for you and your family that the chains of your past be broken off in Jesus' name. To see you, someone who regardless of what you've done (And I've seen you seek repentance and that's what is important to me.) who is so strong, so obviously hurt..it hurts man. You're in my prayers Lio.
Why does JAR always use the "I haven't eaten anything today" excuse 😭
The stress bolumia excuse afterwards😂 JEEZ IF YOU SUFFER FROM IT THEN DONT MAKE DRAMA BASED VIDEOS. I
Almost like hes looking for any excuse he can to get out of being held accountable for his actions.
Guilt tripping
To give himself enough time to think of another youtube drama to name-drop.
@@D0omCyanWait, JAR has bulimia?
I am so proud of you, Lio! You'd made some big mistakes, but you're clearly taking accountability, took the knowledge of your wrongs to heart, and are really trying to be a better person. Not enough people do that, and that tells me you have a good heart. I've also made huge mistakes, and hurt people dear to me that, 10 years later, the resulting damage is still very clear. We can't change the past, but we can choose what we do in the future. You're a good person at your core, so please remember that about yourself
Hey Lio, its good to see that You have been finding enjoymeant in the toy reviews and Your actively taking care of Yourself, but please don't get pulled back into the Drama it will only hurt You in the long run.
All Robots don't go to Heaven.
B-But.. what about all the good robots? JAR isn't the only one :(
I understood that reference.
Why do I feel like JAR is building up excuses over excuses
More than happy to see you improving yourself.
As someone who was also used as more a weapon than a friend to someone I saw as a sister back in my callout days and has been used for content, you have my deepest sympathies.
I wish you the best and look forward to your next transformers review. ❤
Peace and love, Lio.
I am so tired of being disappointed by people, and in people. I'm tired of seeing people I used to admire lose all their friends, hurt other people and/or say downright foul things. I'm sorry JAR didn't act like a friend to you, and I'm sorry that he's making choices that can and might ruin him.
JAR uses people like there tools,Because sadly JAR a tool himself
Well he is JuSt A RoBoT after all 😂😂😂
Sry about the pun
@@D0omCyan it’s okay I think I need from watching this frustrating sad video
He been a tool from the start
@@Moxx365 Its more like JAR's the whole fucking Tool Box if you ask me
Off topic, but your pfp is my favorite WWW member along with her net Navi besides Mr Match
To be honest, to this day you and ponder are the only people i trust in the commentary community
Yes, you stepped out of line with rosa. But Rosa is a stalker and allowed ped0s in servers with minors. I still think the anger was justified
I wish you the best Lio. I really do
Hey Lio glad to hear you’re doing better, and been trying to improve yourself. I’m really sorry you had to deal with snakes like JAR and Peach’s who used you for their own personal gain. I wish you the best.
As an artist who often visits your chanel for videos to draw to I genuenly couldn't draw to this one.
Lio, I am really sorry for what you are going through. I hope you are doing well.
Also hearing that snipped from JAR's call with Sinny was so upsetting. There was absolutly no reason to put your art down. I was actualy quite bamboozled (positivley) by how on point your designs were when I first saw them and the fact that you made this offer in the first place is such a kind gesture.
I like Lio's art. It looks like something drawn by a professional artist/animator. I think they were just grasping at straws just so that they don't get caught for the BS they pulled off.
JAR's response shouldnt be "I know" this and "I know" that. It should be, "I am FINALLY starting to realize how MY actions are affecting others and I need to change FAST.
I haven't heard of you until clicking on this video, but you seem genuine, so I'm gonna subscribe to you.
I don’t know what mistakes you've made before, but I respect you for everything you've done in this video.
@@DeeRhoe Watch my toy reviews 👀
His mistakes aren't unforgivable, it's a lot to explain but, in a way he was in the wrong place with the right intentions
@@Lio_Convoy Will do
@acearchives6138 I get that, I've made wrong calls before and it's just something I gotta own up to.
Hope You Find Peace Someday Lio Convoy. Nobody Deserves To Go Through That
I thought Lio was exaggerating a tad about the call between JAR and Synni being disgusting. I've been trying to watch the call and it is, in fact, unironically disgusting. So many jaw dropping moments. Every time he said "coom" I died a little bit.
I just got out of the hospital, yesterday and I am now watching this and now I am sad.
If you like Transformers, you should go enjoy the channel’s shorts. Might make you happier.
Unrelated to the JAR situation, but I like this a lot more where you just have a stern tone at most and are not outright yelling. Looking forward to see you improve further from your drama.
Regarding this drama, now we'll just have to see how JAR is going to go forward with all of this and whether he'll actually listen on holding back on posting that finished video he mentioned.
I’m glad to hear you’re working on yourself, and that you’re seeking out support. I’m so sorry all this is going on and you’re doing great
Your not to blame, he did what he did not you.
Why is JAR sounding like Zaid? Like he mentions he gets angry alot like Zaid did.
I just listened to this call a few times to absorb all this info all the way and I just feel terrible for what you had to deal with, I know what It's like to put your all in helping someone work on themselves just for them to use you and screw it all up, I went through it with an online friend of mine.
I admire the balls you had to confront him about all of this bullshit, I hope everything goes well for you in life.
i just hate how tired you sound talking about this stuff now, but you're a better person for not doing the typical commentary thing of "just make fun of them".
Very glad you've been taking genuine efforts in changing and becoming a better person. Speaking from personal experience, just doing what you love online is SO much easier when you distance yourself from the drama and turmoil.
Consider me resubbed. Will check out your reviews shortly. I am so sorry you've been dragged through this repulsive shit, you and your family deserve a thousand times better than this.
i'm glad you have changed so much Lio, you got my watch back my man.
This makes me appreciate my friend circle even harder
It hurts to hear how sad Lio is...I don't even know what to say cuz I'm just so sad for him :[ I just feel so upset for him especially when he was responding to JAR and Synni talking shit about his art and him trying to help the people who got scammed.
God the somber feeling in this video. I’m sorry man. I love you dude, I hope you’re doing well, and I’m happy to see you constantly growing. ❤ this jar stuff hurts man. I’ve watched him for years. To hear him so unhinged, and even the fact he still wants to dig back up TmossBoss is insane. Thank you Lio! You’re awesome man. Again, I hope you’re doing well.
I couldn't even listen to Jar's video as everything was coming out. It made me so mad I had to stop the video and take a break especially his comments on SA. As someone who is a victim of SA it was disgusting. I hope as I was someone that used to watch his content. He gets help.
But I hope you Lio you improve from this after everything. I understand what it's like being used as well so I'm sorry you went through that. I can see you're improving and starting to make changed for the better 💜
As a fellow victim of SA/SH myself, that rubbed me the wrong way/sickened me too, especially after everything came out. And as someone also who also used to watch Jar myself, I also hope he gets help as well.
You know whats sad? Prison mate luke pretty much won in getting peaches and jar canceled, im not defending him in any way but he might actually be a prophet, okay jokes aside seeing people i used to watch turning into monsters. I miss the old community
Just like how Stories and Pentagrin got what they wanted in Spoctor eventually getting cancelled.
@@sparktwochristopher7240 fir better or for worse
@@sparktwochristopher7240 for better or for worse
@@sparktwochristopher7240Stories and Pentagrin won jack shit lol.
@@Andrewtops781jack AND shit. And Jack isn't here.
I love that while i was watching this my internet went poo poo, anyway i think JAR had the “Spoctor syndrome” after getting wronged by many he came victorious and sat on the top, ergo his ego skyrocketed. Because what he went through and what he experienced i firmly believe that he seems himself as someone who was in such a mighty status believing he’s able to help those who he deemed in the same situation as he was years ago. But what its infuriating is that he saw the coyote shit, he lived the spoctor and peaches villainous arc, he pointed out how Prison-mate Luke was acting and using the screenshots to twist shit, hell he even was there reading the screenshots that got leaked by Atari, how snaky Pentagone and Stories were behind close doors, he knew that just glazing over the docs/evidence is not enough.
And i know he is in the spectrum, i understand that his understanding of social cues is not quite there yet and it might never be if we are honest. But he knows that he should keep some level of professionalism and not joke-flirty to someone who is in hot water, specially if there are allegations AND PROOF of sexual misconduct with minors in repeated occasions.
I really don’t believe he didn’t mean ill will, but like i said many times before the method, the everything wasn’t it. He needs to keep in check his ego and open his ears and take in consideration others concern about his future plans.
I generally like to let these sorts of things cook. But I just got to the part where JAR just said he can't afford therapy. If you're in the US there are non profit therapy organizations or counselling, especially if you're in a metropolitan area. True they won't be at the same level of quality that say one you pay through insurance or out of pocket for but if you NEED to talk to someone it's better than nothing. Also most employers are going to have some sort of counseling services or a like care bridge if they don't have a counsellor on hand they can look up non profit in your area. Don't think that just because your financially not well off that you have to suck it up alone. There's help out there it's just a lil tricky to find sometimes.
So to you, rando reading this, if you need help please know its out there. You are worth the help and you don't have to be a millionaire to receive it.
I know I shouldn't have been, but I was floored when JAR was basically like oh I watched your video! Instead of...reaching out to you. Or that he consumed videos about you but then he... didn't talk to you and come to his own conclusions of what he would do.
And then in the end, that call - as you said in this video multiple times - he has no idea what a friend is. He uses people as stepping stones.
I hope he doesn't go through with the apology video either. It's not going to go well. No one is going to believe him even if he grovels and the commentary community is going to JUMP on him because they have their popcorn ready at all times.
He needs to get off the internet, self reflect, get a lot of therapy (probably have several therapists with one just being his babysitter), and grow up. And then maybe he can come back (but when he does, all of this is going to come right back up).
I am interested to hear what you have to say about Kumo, especially after everything else happened and how he, (IMO) instead of taking his L's, striked a small channel, doubled down on it, and then deleted everything and left. He came off like someone who can dish it out but not take it when it comes back to him, and that he has a massive ego who also needs to grow up. But that's IMO.
But honestly though, great job on talking to JAR and walking him through it and just telling him point blank how it is and why. I hope he takes your words to heart.
Lio, being someone who doesn't know you, and is only writing this from the perspective of a viewer of how everything unfolded over the years, your personal growth is commendable and I am super happy to see it. Kudos dude =]
At first, I was going to be disappointed to see one of these types of videos from you again after wanted to change and break away from it, but I wanted to give it a chance and I'm glad I took it. I can tell you're changing and learning better from everything that happened and I'm glad you can finally focus on what you love instead of sacrificing your health over this stuff. While I still have a lot of mixed feelings, I'm not going to ignore that you're definitely different from before. I'm also glad you're on medication, it's a life changer (Finally got on mood stabilizers this year for my Bipolar Type II, absolute God send)
Anyways, this was also a good video. I'm sorry you had to dip your feet back into that stress despite it.
P.S. Love the Arcee. I have uber Transformers autism and have four different action figures of Starscream, including the one with his crown and cape from the animated movie
@@teaforthepoor Loooook at the shoooooorts!
@@Lio_Convoy Oh my god, I just saw them- I love that so much! The only disappointing thing for all of us is that we can't get the giant 12,000 dollar transformable Unicron figure 😔
I actually found you from the call where you confronted Fluffy about what she and Chaos55t spread about JAR.
I'm still here because I believe that you are working on improving and have always been honest. Also because I like TMNT and Transformers too.
You're doing so well Lio, keep it up❤
Im so sorry you had deal with Jar, he doesn’t deserve a friend like you 😔
I know how you feel, lio. I had a friend that i thought was one, but they just used me as well. I hope your doing well though
hearing them poke fun at your artwork during that tidbit of the Synni call was awful (the whole situation was awful but Im unaware of the rest of this call) ;w; I thought you offering to do that was sweet. You didn't deserve them laughing at your expense all because Synni wanted to take money and run.
"Who wants art from him...hardly anybody likes him anymore lol." I have no idea how to even...tackle that tidbit myself. Like do those two only care about artwork if there's a popular artist behind it? Last I checked, most people who commission do so because they like somebody's art style. It's really telling of both of their mindsets.
Then there's Lio was willing to donate his own time, effort, and skill to give people Synni fucked over at least something for their money out of pure kindness....and she shits on it? Like...he wouldn't have to put the offer out there if it wasn't for the fucking fact she was cutting and running...and she wants to be a catty bitch over it? Where the fuck does she get off with that shit? Fuck me man if that little dig the two of them did didn't piss me right off. Lio wanted to be charitable and they shat on him for being willing to help the people SHE ripped off.
@@Shatterstar exactly like even then wasn't this supposed to be an interview JAR was having with her about her grooming a minor?? I don't understand why it was being used as a gab girl session
@@Umbreelievable I have no idea. Lio came to JAR's defense and cleared his name when fuckwits who cannot let shit go tried to peg him as a groomer with false allegations. And here JAR is shitting on him attempting to do right for strangers who got fucked by the person he's casually chatting with...the same person who used JAR and threw him under the bus the second she could. They're both playing games and fucking around to try and deal with this mess they made at the best angle.
@@UmbreelievableWe all know why, JAR was down bad for Synni
JAR made me more disappointed than ever before. This year has been such a rollercoaster ride, and I’ve been witnessing too many people falling off the rails. Aye Carambá! I hope you feel better soon, Lio. You deserve better than this drama BS.😔
ah this call explaind a lot and broke my heart at the same time. I know understand why Jar's vids got so much worse (and the Suzie vid)... but it broke my heart to hear your sadness about everything. I like your change, lio. It's good the change is good for you, even when there is still a lot to do infront of you. It get's better. And I really do enjoy your shorts! I'm sending random internet stranger hugs.
tbh I'm kinda relieved that I wasn't the only one who didn't like the tone in that video, cause of how much it felt like kicking someone while they were down
This reminds me of that scene from Scarface where Tony Montana gets scolded by his former boss, Frank, for replacing him with a notorious kingpin named Sosa. Reason being is because he would get paid a lot more money and he would rise to power. Frank knew Sosa was bad news and tried to tell Tony that what he was doing was a terrible mistake, but Tony just shrugged it all off.
As Tony and his friend, Manny, are leaving the office, Frank says this statement:
_Tony, remember what I told you when you started:_
_The ones who succeed in this business are the ones who fly straight - the low-key and quiet ones._
_But the guys who want it all - chicas, champagne, flash............THEY DON'T LAST!_
But once again, Tony rebuffs it and just walks out the door.
In the end, his lust for power, control, and money was his tragic downfall. With a touch of white powder on the side, of course.
Sadly, JAR has met that same downfall with how he's handled pretty much every situation he's gotten into and refusing to listening to anyone's sound advice.
Normally, I would like to see someone rise up again from a fall. But in JAR's case, I honestly don't know. What I *do* know is that he needs to get off the Internet for an extended amount of time to better himself, and to connect with real-life friends and do fun activities with them. That's bound to help him.
JAR is delusional thinking his fans aren't haters. I think a lot of OG-long time fans from the beginning who can think are pissed, and don't support him anymore.
Well, hear it from a fan of JAR since 2016. He was my second favorite RUclipsr because he had conservative views while also being a nerdy guy and not some old Gen type. He royally messed up this time and I mainly attribute this to incompetence. Right now I do not know how I should feel until what JAR does after this, if he takes Lio's advice, then he can redeem himself in my eyes.
@@jeremychicken3339 unless he can change his personality which would take years to do, I think the nature if his character isn't suited for journalism. He didn't find a story, gather evidence, and concluded a truthful narrative. Rather he found his own narrative from the beginning and skewed the evidence to fit the story he wanted to tell. He approached this story possible with the worse take imaginable.
@@Trey_Travis A book titled "Touching Spirit Bear" has a counterpoint on this, a person can change in 2 ways, 1 is a slow push from their line, the other is a big event.
Speaking of his fans, the synni video has a part where he talks about her sending softcore porn to the minor, and he just explains the definition of softcore porn “for those of you who don’t know”. It’s weird and just makes it look like he’s explaining it to his audience because they’re also minors.
@@henrynelson9301 what I find worse is something that Chud didn't bring up to JAR when he should have. JAR didn't take the rape comic in consideration. That slightly more hardcore, but also just over all worse than mundane porn considering the fact that is was well... rape.
as happy as i was to see you enjoying your hobbies lio im glad you brought back drawing tablet background noise
I’m praying for you, Lio. I’m so sorry for how JAR treated you and others. I know what one-sided friendships feel like, and they’re painful.
I hope you’re doing and will continue to do better, and just remember what Owl City once said; “when the rain falls down, when it all turns around, when the light goes out, this ISN’T the end.” Keep your chin up, sir.
I don’t care what your detractors say about you, even if and when they were justified in their criticisms. I believe people do change. We’re rooting for you, and we’ve got your back, man.
Kumo did what he did to get at Birdie. He called Queen Seraphina an autogynephile because he disagreed with her about the database stuff. The kid has shown some major transphobic behavior. Please be careful with trusting him.
Yeah I was listening to him and Akumu a bit ago and the transphobia I caught from him turned me off and I commented on it a couple times 😐 kinda gross
@@plateofspaghetti5029he deleted his channel I say that’s win in my books
@@plateofspaghetti5029Life is good. There's good days and bad days but as a whole, life is more than fulfilling. You don't have to exist is a constant state of grift to maintain meaningful relationships. In the real world, HarleyTBS looks like he's doing some grandmother on chemo cosplay, condemning his parents for not drugging him with amphetamines to "treat" self-diagnosed ADHD. Like, what?!? It's time to stop. Grow up, and if you feel like psychiatric treatment may be of benefit, see a psychiatrist. (Just like any other medical disorder legally diagnosed by an educated, licensed professional.) Lastly, understand that self-diagnosis is not an example to set in a "safe space." Just stop.
Bonus: Rather than sit online calling randos racist, go out in the real world and work with people from different races and backgrounds... in person. Learn what the world is before criticizing it
@@plateofspaghetti5029 Wait, can I get more context on this please?
@@BurnBot_TVin one of Kumo’s livestreams, it was one of his “lions and spiders” ones, don’t remember which, he used every transmisogynistic trope in the book against Sera just because she disagreed with him about the Database stuff. There are other videos where he uses anti-trans language against Nil, Susie, and Fuschia, but I think his comments on Sera were the most egregious.
Unfortunately transactional “friendships” are extremely common online. I have basically no real friends, only two really. We talk like once a weeks sometimes. I feel like growing up terminally online (started at 12), I really grew to see these “friendships” as normal, so I can really empathize with yah on this one. Genuinely hope that therapist you been looking for shows up, take care man.
Im glad you are changing for better. I would liked to apologize for the messages i sent to you on Twitter . Even if i lost respect for you, its not right for me to quick you while you are down, and it was petty on my part. I hope you're able to recover from peaches too. Having someone like that in your corner would do damage to even the strongest man. If this means anything i do respect you for being able to move on from all of this and doing the things that make you happy and finding the routes to your problem to keep your temper. I wish you luck on your journey, god bless.
In a very parasocial way: i appreciate you very much, Lio. Hope you're doing alright, despite all the shit that people have been giving you for literal months for what it seems. I wasn't expecting you to get involved in this topic publicly, as you're taking a step back, as you've said, and because of how much the internet has already come down on JAR for his awful behavior in this, but it's very satisfying to know you're taking the trash out today. it's kinda upsetting to hear the sadness in your voice throughout the commentary section, but you should know that your attempts of kindness are very valued. Perhaps not by the right people, but you're an honorable man who has pretty much earned my respect for life after everything you've done for victims so unconditionally and have taken accountability with the intention to actually change.
Welcome back ig.
Crazy fucking year.
I never left tho
@@Lio_Convoy 😶🌫
This really hasn't been your year, Lio, I hope things get better as time goes on. It'll be alright
I hope to see you grow in the future lio, truly. Please take care
As much as I’m not a fan of your past actions, along with your methods this is-
Honestly with you through and through on this, the way you spoke about your own adverse experiences made me sad. I’m a victim of grooming and other horrible forms of abuse.
I’ve never felt so much second-hand anxiety in all of the interviews JARs had. It's painful to see him just dig a bigger hole for himself. Especially because he is defending something quite unforgivable, I can’t see myself being in his position and doing what he did and still shooting myself in the foot.
I honestly don't understand how he could have messed up this badly, that video was insane. You would think that all of the past dramas in the community would prove to him that not every accusation is going to require his input, let alone defense, but I guess not.
i do miss time when you still made these type of videos. but i'm glad you decided to take a step back and do things that you actually like doing and take responsibility for your mistakes. hope things will go better for you soon, stay strong
Also can i say it's got me baffled that JAR just ditched you because you got cancelled but willing to have his back for an already proven sex offender (because he didnt read the full log but not like he give a shits to begin with). Who he go to to get help comfort him to sleep instead of his girlfriend that he's in relationship for 2 years. Horrible or stupid idk, maybe both
Lio thank you I know said thank way to many times I’m sorry for making community post about you I didn’t know jar wasn’t your friend for four months.
I’m happy you chewed out jar I’m glad did it thank you.
Well you didn't NEED to know they weren't friends anymore, because that's a private matter.
@@Umbreelievable true lol
I’m very pleased you’re taking care of yourself. I’m glad you didn’t take on Synni’s case.
I think you cracked the code with JAR in that he sees friendships as purely transactional. It seems he’s always been that way on RUclips, jumping from community to community and dropping people when he no longer finds them useful. I hope he changes.
I hope you continue on your journey of self realization and healing
Kumo has deleted his channel.
Wait really
@@redlinrangerstudio5331 Yeah.
@@alanemocab3465damn
@@redlinrangerstudio5331 Yeah it sure is.
Why?.
You know, I had lost respect for you when all that shit came out about you months ago. But this call shows me you're a man who truly wishes to be better. I am not adding anything new, but how you handled this was way better than most of the other calls...
Thank you, Lio, for being a man of your word and actually growing to be better.
Take care of yourself, Bossman
I said it as much when Jar was letting Zaid/MissAnthroPony in his videos. I literally stated how this isn't a good idea, and if anything were to happen for he does, that should only fall on him.
(Reffering to JAR to those who don't get it)
I didn't mind much about re-upload his videos. That's one thing. Having him basically make videos is another.
Wait JAR was letting Zaid into his videos?!
i am not crying, you are-
take a shot every time he says "I know"
I guarentee you, he doesn't.
Honestly as someone who has been a fan of his channel since 2019 I am also very disappointed and disgusted to see what Jar has done, seriously what a way to destroy your career by cheating on your girlfriend just so you could simp for a groomer🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
At the very least I am glad to see you doing the very best to improve yourself Lio, hope your doing currently well.
I haven't been to this channel for a long time, and I've grown very critical of you, Lio. However, I am glad that you are working on yourself. As bad as many of your past actions have been, I do hope you find the means to better yourself and that you can stick to doing the content that actually brings your joy.
That being said, I believe you gave Kumo too much credit regarding his involvement in this situation. He should not have been involved with this situation at all. Regardless of his intent, which I don't believe was as good as you do, his impact matters more. What happened was that he got played and made an ass of himself. I am normally open to people changing for the better, but skirting around with someone like Synni was the same thing as JAR: He shot his career, or what little there was, in the foot. It would appear he's deleted his channel, and it's probably best he stays away.
As a side note, I don't believe JAR was being entirely honest with you in this call. The whole reasoning for Spoctor, I believe, is because JAR doesn't actually stand by what he says or has any convictions of his own. Like you said, he will wait until a winning side presents itself before jumping in to provide his "perspective" and pretend it was correct all along. He's a snake in the grass, plain and simple. It's fortunate that he finally got caught, and people will be looking into him more closely. Maybe then he'll finally learn something.
I hope you find the help you need in any case.
I don’t feel I’m giving Kumo credit: only grace. I’d rather give someone grace they don’t deserve than condemnation that they don’t. I think I’ve done enough of that. I know why he deleted his channel, but that’s a private matter.
As far as JAR lying to me…..you’re probably right. But at the same time, it’s not my problem anymore, you know?
@Lio_Convoy I understand. He's no longer your problem. Best of luck to you.
Bro I hate ppl that can’t take there shit or can’t say sorry, I feel you brother, listen my this is my first full vid love ur shorts, u didn’t deserve that
And that's why I stay over on the homesteading and stationery side of RUclips most of the time. Damnit Jar....
Love ya Lio! I've been loving the transformers content.
Bruh, Jar was the one who hop on the illymation drama, and defended the person that has falsely claimed that poor woman as a Woke, when he had no proof of it, and cut the video out of context, because of his bias, while showing no care for her being doxxed.
I'm glad to see you improving and getting the help you get, Lio. The past cannot be removed, but you can still learn from it and surround yourself with people at would care and love you as the person you are, and would help you change as well.
here we go
Just to clarify. Yes, I heard the call that JAR had with Doodle ages ago.
The reason I heard it was because it was part of a situation that concerned me. So if JAR has a problem with any of that, he can grow a pair and tell me himself
Can you give a TLDR please?
I've been in Akumo's camp since he started his revenge campaign. However, I feel like this one was deserved and you handled it well. This is pretty much how I would react to an old friend who left me for dead too. You handled it better than most people probably expected you to and walked away with a bitter sweet W. I honestly hope you continue to improve as well. Not having people like JAR and Peaches in your life will help with that and I wish you the best of luck with finding a therapist you feel comfortable with, good luck out there.
Take care of yourself Lio.
I hated you before you got "canceled" because I thought you were an asshole, and I watched you because I thought you were lame for yelling at losers online. But you genuinely seem like you are making strides to improve your behavior and your temper. I applaud you for acknowledging that you were going down a bad path and for actively working on it.
There’s a lot I could go into about how I behaved and why: not that it inherently excuses when the behavior was bad. Just that there’s more to it I’ll probably talk about in the future.
I address the Jibz stuff both in a previous video and with Jibz themselves. When it comes to Rin, I don’t think I have anything to address