MR BONES 40K On Primarch Pros & Cons | Astartes Anonymous Podcast #22
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00:00 Intro
04:17 Horus Lupercal
18:57 Leman Russ
30:35 Ferrus Manus
42:50 Fulgrim
54:14 Vulkan
01:02:22 Rogal Dorn
01:14:50 Roboute Guilliman
01:27:40 Magnus
01:37:11 Sanguinius
01:44:42 The Lion
01:58:25 Perturabo
02:16:01 Lorgar
02:33:34 The Khan
02:56:34 Konrad Curze
03:09:07 Angron
03:16:23 Corvus Corax
03:26:26 Alpharius Omegon
03:39:18 Mortarion
03:44:20 Outro
03:46:42 A Message From Tom
Intro/Outro Music By georgeNrat 
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I love how arthur literally broke them on magnus
All with a lion jpg and iron warrior grade hate
As a Canadian should....
I like Magnus because he’s cool and leader of one of my favorite legions, but he’s right lol
I hope that they post that entire rant at some point, it is gold and 100% correct.
"LET ME RECITE TO YOU ONE OF MY *FAVORITE* POEMS!" has been in my head rent free ever since I heard it.
Perturabo chilling with Vulcan crafting amazing tech and building cities for a time would have 100% fixed Perturabo
He just needed recreation time with his bros....
Most of them needed to spend more time with Vulkan & Corvis for the love and common sense respectively. There would be a few less traitors and the galaxy would be held together better without the emperor because you'd have primarchs who actually love each other and want to cooperate...except Curze he should be kept away from anyone nice like Vulkan otherwise he tries to stir crap because he hates goodness.
Whilst that's nice, Perty really needed serious therapy more than anything else. The guy was horribly traumatised by his upbringing, and just about everyone in his life failed him. No amount of kind words or supporting his interests would have set him right in the way experienced, professional help would have.
True, Vulcan is the cure for most pains
Peterturbo just needed to learn when it is time to bend. He was inflexible and stoic. He broke. Iron is metal, it is flexible. He was not Iron. He was flesh and blood and neurochemicals. He needed to show weakness to his father, he needed to ask for something different, something he wanted to do. He needed enrichment and room to utilize his capacity for creativity and understanding and was given none.
When Arthur said "baby Sigismund" I immediately imagined Dorn with one of those chest baby carriers over his armor. With a chibi Sigismund(yes he has his helmet on) waving his sword like a rattle.
Plot twist abadons top knot is a hair squig
The squig with a bite force so strong even Abadon can't pry it off😂
please let this be. He fought alongside the emperor with Horus against orks.
Holy shit. His name is CONNOR!? Who the FUCK is Arthur?!
The colab we've all been waiting for
Oh hey, I just stumbled onto this…. Sounds like a good quality of audio, podcast, humor, and a nice chemistry too!
You guys almost had me break down listening to the Magnus bit at work today. The sheer unprofessionalism of it all is precisely the reason this is my favorite podcast. Keep up the good work you glorious beasts
You were the one who made that Vulcan art of him hugging his brothers!? I love that artwork so much! Thank you for gracing the salamanders fanbase with that masterpiece lmao
20 percenters represent
The "stupidity" of Leman Russ is probably an homage to Thor, which was known to be pretty daft as well.
That Magnus tirade was OUTSTANDING, I've never heard Arthur's voice get that intense. That was a 1st degree roast, the violence was CLEARLY premeditated.
You obviously never heard him rant about the 11th legion. He went crazy.also Magnus does suck. Look at if the emperor could talk.
I actually got the opposite vibe from Perturabo’s powers. It’s not that he can look at something and see where he can make it better, but it’s that he can look at something and see how it comes apart. He sees the weaknesses, which is both why he was such an effective siege master, and the eternal pessimist
The Primarch Blunt rotation is Jagathai Khan, Magnus, Russ, and maybe Vulkan
Magnus would hit you with some seriously deep concepts while you’re stoned, and then give you a warm hug when you inevitably start having a freak out
The Magnus rant is genuinely legendary. I will be clipping it to listen to whenever I am sad. 100% one of the best moments of 40k discussion I've witnessed.
One con to Magnus and pro to leman was that when leman rocked up to prospero he called Magnus first and begged him to not make him do what he did and Magnus didn’t answer the phone because he was so stuck up his own ass
Holy crap Arthur is so fricken funny 😂😂 i wanna hang out with these guys so bad 😆
"astartes anonymous"
> says everyone's name within a minute of the episode's start
I think its more that we are addicted to space marines and here together to share and talk about our addiction lol.
The blood angels miss there dad so much they started to name everything after him
Arthur’s magnus tangent was the best part of the video no doubt
I loved that short story of Honsou playing a fatherly Regicide game with Perturabo. The death threat just gave the lesson the gravity it needed. He let Honsou win in the end.
The Primarch literally could smell his geneseed and noted the resemblance to the Honourable Soulkas.
I do want to say that a great thing about Conrad Kurze is whenever he speaks to another primark he always challenges their deepest held beliefs and flaws whether its the lion, dorn, sanguinius. He always has a snarky observation.
Nasir Amit was actually an artist as well. Amit’s Reliquary is a beautifully crafted stasis capsule holding one of the last pure sources of Sanguinius’s blood left in the universe, a feather they collected before it fell to the deck of the Vengeful Spirit. Dante gives it to Gabriel Seth as a reminder that the Flesh Tearers are just as much a inheritor of Sanguinius’s beauty and love for the art as his oceans deep bloodlust and rage. They use it to fight off falling to the Red Thirst and Black Rage during the battles on Baalind.
You guys say Loeken only cared about his job, but half of the first two books are him hanging out with regular humans and hearing about their lives and their studies. His best friend is an ancient orator who tells him stories of old terra and recommends books, he even defended a poet printing and handing out literature *AGAINST* the legion when they trampled a crowd of mourners to rush Horus into the apothecary.
I've rewatched the Magnus section multiple times. It's fucking priceless.
Bones is an amazing voice actor
" Oh nooo it's the spaaace wooolves!"
Having so many Night Lords friends makes me realize how correct that assessment of Night Lords fans was.
Uh oh, what do u mean?
I would love to see a third primarch come to the surface for the Alpha Legion. The hydra has three heads, so let's sow some real confusion.
The Alpha Legion, I want to say as someone who has kept up with their lore, is probably my favorite because their bullshit memery is canonized. The reason why nobody can tell what side the Alpha Legion is on? Because they fractured into different contingency plans, covert ops, psy ops, special operations, and counter intelligence cadre's to the point that they can no longer tell whom is even in the Alpha Legion anymore. The way it was described in Harrowmaster is you could have 2 alpah legion marines pass each other in the street, who utilize entirely different call signs and signals that have diverged so much, that neither could even recognize the other. They're doing their spy thing but because there is nobody to take the helm of the legion, they're basically all flying blind.
Additionally, the Alpha Legion are aware of how stupid the "I am Alpharius" bit is. They all scream at someone when they step up and say "I am alpharius" in harrowmaster. The Horus Heresy fucked these guys up because their own Primarchs had plans none of them knew, and has left them all completely directionless to fall to chaos, become heretics, or stay loyalists. They also use this to their advantage greatly, because the Alpha Legion are just good at lying and manipulating. They use the dogmatic stance of the Imperiums culture to get them to turn on each other by pulling rank as a loyalist chapter. A group of 8 marines in a rhino manage to destabilize the planet by giving the fake report that the governer has been declared a heretic and that they're there to purge them as membhers of the Iron Snakes chapter.
And they say after their mission that it doesn't matter if their mission succeeded or failed. The moment the imperium realized the Alpha Legion was invovled, they will dedicate decades of manpower and resoruces combing over every transmission, every document, every second of the events, trying to parse out what the alpha legions true purpose or motivation or actions in this conflict were, even when it's as simple as "We need to get some supplies. Lets take it from this planet." They chase ghosts and conspiracies and waste precious time, manpower, and resources to do so, and meanwhile the small alpha legion warband has long since moved on to doing something else.
Perty in the heresy was that one kid in a group project who did the whole thing himself because he knew his teammates were gonna fuck it up.
Imagine how them and adeptus ridiculous would be in a video
THE GOD OF LOGISTICS
THE SAINT OF SPECIFICS
THE ONE AND ONLY, ROBUTE GUILLIMAAAANNNNNNN!
Mozart Intensifies
Autism and Headcannon, the shaking foundation of all 40k
That big about Leman teaching his sons to enjoy life is why i believe the space wolves to be the most human of the space marines. They laugh, they sing, they party, they mourn, possibly loved, they have pets, they embrace life in a way only humans can. The salamanders are by far the most humane, and like my 2nd favorite factions so dont hate this Vulkan fans 😂
I just realized that Mr. bones sometimes sound like Norm Macdonald when he raises his voice a bit.
This was was hilarious haven’t laughed this hard in awhile. Glad I found this channel during the night shift , it’s now my favorite Warhammer podcast.
Arthur Bones: I think we’d all love an elaboration on the Twin Primarchs Theory, if you please. 😁
Alpharius once went on a mission where he murked Alpharius. He then reported back to Alpharius about killing Alpharius who was mad Alpharius killed Alpharius. And this whole time nobody in this meme story is Alpharius
I would argue that there still is some personality to the Alpha Legion twins. I would highly recommend taking a look at Rogal Dorn’s meeting with Alpharius in the book “Praetorian of Dorn”. Alpharius (whichever twin it really was) argued that results were all that mattered. The death of 500 world leaders and their relatives through assassination was preferable over far more deaths of soldiers through ordinary warfare. He also argued that his nature is no accident and is what the Emperor had intended him to be. The Emperor is aware of him and his methods and has taken no issue with them or make any corrections. Taking issue with his methods would be akin to taking issue with what the Emperor intended him to be.
Arthur is one of those people who even when he likes something he hates them lmao
“This year I’ll do it” has to be one of the most menacing line I’ve heard 😭
Chaotic voices has reached 40k subs, celebrate his coronation with 40.000 warhammers
Well deserved! Love that beautiful mans work!
1:25:20 if the emperor had 20 Khans they would have all betrayed him and wouldn’t even use chaos
Aside from Stormseers but yeah no overt chaos gods/corruption
Since the boys didn't do a good job on giving an idea of what and who the Alpha legion / Alpharius is (and I don't blame 'em) here's an "everything you need to know about the Alpha legion" comment:
~ If you're interested in exploring them, read Alpharius: Head of the Hydra and avoid this comment (contains spoilers)
- **Why are they 2 primarchs?**
It is implied that, somehow, both of them share a bond where they only feel _complete_ when they are together. One theory is that his "soul" split when his pod traversed the warp when the primarchs were scattered, explaining the phrase _"One soul, two bodies"_ used when describing them.
- **Why is everyone Alpharius?**
Alpharius was keen on listening and taking into account the opinion of his legionaries as they provide other perspectives that could be useful in battle and operations. Basically he didn't put himself above (nor below) his legionaries, so being Alpharius serves two purposes: it's confusing to everyone, providing a tactical advantage, and it further unites the legionaries as equals under the same name and purpose.
- **Why does the Alpha legion claim themselves as being a massive faction?**
As long as you show a skill that the Alpha legion perceives as impressive or useful, you can be recruited by this faction (Psykers are a great example since they are treated as equals here); hence, their big number of _operatives_ .
- **Who is the real Alpharius?**
It is implied that, during the whole heresy, real Alpharius is posing as Omegon. So anytime you read an interaction where a "primarch Alpharius" is in the center stage and Omegon is in the background, "Omegon" is real Alpharius and "Alpharius" is Omegon.
- **What makes Alpharius especial in comparison to Omegon?**
Real Alpharius landed on Terra and was found by the Emperor himself, he then was raised in secret under the wing of Malcador who taught him how to hide his presence (even from Malcador) while Omegon landed elsewhere eventually ending up on a xenos planet, fighting to survive. After that, Real Alpharius infiltrated a lot of his brother's factions to gather information on them, even posing as a Custodes and taking part on the Blood Games on Terra. Alpharius was described by the Emperor as _"his shield"_ .
- **Isn't Alpharius dead?**
_"Alpharius"_ was killed by Rogal Dorn, and from that point on _"Omegon"_ became Alpharius. There's a lot of debate on the way "Alpharius" acted throught this whole ordeal with Rogal, labeling it as _"out of character"_ . Now, however, we can say that there's a big probability that the one who died was the real Omegon, and now Alpharius is not posing as "Omegon" anymore.
- **What's the "big plan" they have then, what's with the 4D chess?**
We don't know lol. But we can especulate with enough certanty (compared to most information regarding this legion at least) that the Alpha legion (at it's core) is a loyalist faction where Alpharius's objective is to act as the Emperor's secret hand to "protect" or achieve something, a vision that the Emperor had regarding the world perhaps. We must also remember that the Alpha legion's gene seed is described as one of the most stable and pure since it was one of the lasts to be created
*_Pros_* : Provides Intelligence-based warfare (incognito mode) reads but also, knowing the rule of thumb that Omegon is Alpharius really gives you new perspectives on most of their appearances.
*_Cons_* : Secrecy. Most of the information that I provided here comes from his Primarch book, released in 2021. Without this information they literally feel like loose canons on any read you find them. That's why I can't blame people for not knowing about them or having strong preconcieved opinions on them, and at the same time that's why reading his primarch book is *MANDATORY* if you want to get into them.
Hope this helped anyone understand the XXth legion and its primarch(s) better
Hydra Dominatus!
One correction, alpharius wasn't found after infiltrating the other legions and disguising himself as a custodes, he was found first and then did all of those things after being tutored by malcador
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Alpha Legion are Chaotic Loyalists or Loyal Traitors
This is a great episode. Some people from the outside think that dudes that are into Warhammer are just about this hyper masculine violent setting… but over the years is the lore has addressed so many complex emotional issues. It’s amazing that something can be so silly yet so profound at the same time.
"And this year I'm really gunna do it" 😂 thank you, I'm gunna start using that when I introduce myself.
This episode is actually amazing
I definitely need that Primarch pairs theory explained!
With Alpha Legion disguising themselves as base humans, I really like to think of it as the Alpha Legion not being that good at their job, I like to think that everyone else is just too stupid to notice that John from accounting suddenly put on 350lbs of muscle and grew a foot and a half overnight when I think of it like that it makes me chuckle a little bit every time I paint a new Alpha Legion mini.
I like wolfes and Leman, because they blunt as fuck and know what others think about them and just roll with it. Whithin their walls they are honest dudes, sing sagas shit, but outside they turn "savagery" up to 11 and dicking around.
Very real
Hope to see Arthur on this podcast more often!
I’ve listened to this 4 times and I laugh my a$$ off every time
2:30:29 Corvus Corax is cool as shit, Arthur. You take that back! If Fulgrim can be a pervy snek, my boy can be an angry bird.
I would love Lorgar having full redemption arc. His haunting by Corax and locked away in meditation, he goes full circle and returns as the Penitent. Fully surrendering to Gulliman and offering his services to the Imperium, obviously no one trusts Lorgar and all he did so he is imprisoned in the vaults beneath Terra. However they could wither go with the full imperial Creed and is seen as a neccessary evil as he boosts miracles and seems to display the ability to allow posession of Corax hence Gulliman is like oh shit thats definately him, we need him right now OR he becomes a direct parralel to the Emperor and his full rejection of religion recognised in Lorgar by Valdor. He "Joins" the Custodes as a special unit where he ALWAYS takes the field with his captors/allies as the vanguard of the Imperium. The flopside being that it warps Corax's conflicted spirit.
It would be so cool if a thew primarchs traded places, so going chaos and some becoming loyal. It'll never happen but it'd be so cool
Just found y'all, started listening to your vids, but that Magnus rant is what convinced me to subscribe, holy crap.
Konrad Kurze
Pro: Crime rate is zero
Con: Fear only works if your presence is felt
Angron
Pro: kills you quickly
Con: Possiblity he feels your pain when he kills you? So he makes it quick
This episode is incredible. I've been rewatching it weekly since release.
3:07:23 EVOLUTIONARY DEAD END IS THE WILDEST SHIT I'VE HEARD THIS YEAR
Arthur has some *feelings* about top knots
White Scar fanboy here, and I need to interject (like a fken nerd. My apologies in advance):
Not only does Jaghatai have a character arc, it is also quite relatable, as per his theme, and it is - ironically, because he is a big manly man - the stoory of becoming a REAL man.
The WS motto always has been 'Withdraw, but then return', which pretty much encompasses their battle doctrine and life philosophy.
So throught the three books on them, JK is convinced he and his legion can outrun any threat, sort of feeding into the flighty, non-engaging perception the rest of the Emperium has of them. And it is true - they do not want to engage with the rest of the Emperium, sort of doing their own thing. This serves them well at the start of the Heresy, but it also costs them half their legion in a revolt but the warrior lodge attendants, those having adopted a new motto - 'No backwards step', popularised by the philosophy of Horus prevalent in the lodges.
This discrepancy rears its head again Path of Heaven, where we see the WS at an impass, where their philosophy of maintaining distance - both literally and figuratively- has failed them, them slowly getting boxed in by Death Guard and Emperor's Children over a period of 3-4 years on their way to Terra. Their tactics aren't working, the enemy is no longer allowing themselves to be caught by surprise. And so the WS and Jaghatai are getting into the mood for a final stand, with their understanding of a warriorss way of life having been found lacking. They do make a getaway in the end, but at the cost of many sacrifices.
Finally, in Warhawk, JK fully accepts the notion that he has been one of the lucky primarchs, having had
the chance to do whatever he pleases, and the time has come when it's time to make the hard choices. He even notes that they have been too indulgent all this time, making a nod to Rogal? Who, accoeding to Jaghatai, has denied himself all his life. It's a bit of a 'if he can do it, so can we' moment. There is also emphasis on him coming to if not accept, at least understand the reasons behind the lies of the Emperial truth
The whole thing culminates in an the epic attack on the Lion's Gate Space port, where the WS pull out all the stops, finally accept the fact that they have to diversify their thinking and tactics, and charge the port with a full armada of tanks besides them and a friggin orbital plate covering their advance from traitor forces bombardments. Finally, Jaghatai confronts Mortarion, takes insane amounts of punishment. Perhaps to punish himself in one go and to test his own endurance, since he never has before. And, finally, at the end, having been forced by the world to withdraw from what he thought himself to be, going into this live experience contemplation about his own nature, he can fully accept himself again, this time not as a distant presence, but as a protector, right in the thick of things, enagaged and present in the world, he finally 'dances' (how his swordplay is described many times) again, beheading and banishing Mortarion. Then he does fall, but he is, luckily, reconstituted, as we know. So he does three whidrawl-returns - once at the start of the Heresy to know where he stands, once during it to know who he is, and once more in the end, so the GW can fuck it up and make us wait for him for another decade or so.
'Nobody talks bad about Roguel Dorne' then theres me, who came over from Adeptus Ridiculus where they troll Dorne for being 'a dude trying to fit a square peg in a round hole who cant read' lol
Imagine The Emperor's face when Magnus shows up lol
"Thank you for doing everything last thing that was required for me not to have become the Black King."
Since no one else has done it... Uuuuuuh Hi!
Good seeing Mr Bones
calling the horus heresy a " little incident" is wild
Its all relative lol
Ferrus Manus is the Tutankhamun of Warhammer, the most notable thing he ever did was die - I regret nothing about this take 💀
keep regretting nothing, it's completely true
ive just found this podcast and im glad i did im gonna binge watch all the episodes now
I would argue Konrad and Sanguinius are the twin because of seeing into the future abilities and cannibalism that both chapters (and primarch as eating people) practice
You can tell I typed this comment before 3:04:10
I feel tts influenced Arthur’s impression on Magnus a tiny bit…
Don’t get me wrong, I HATE magic men, but still…
I mean normally tts makes people like Magnus better in my experience but well…
@@12ratsinatrenchcoat he sounded to high and mighty to me
Honestly, Saturnine sold me on Dorn and the fists. Partially on the White Scars, too, but mostly the fists. Between Dorn just dunking on Fulgrim and his surprising wit, i couldnt help but love the guy
I was showering when listening to this and the fire alarm make me literly jump out of the shower and check upstairs.. the floor was very wet lol
"We may have a slightly longer episode thean usual"
Almost four hours later
Fun fact about the white paint: while lead is obviously poisonous, titanium dioxide is practically inert, meaning it is used everywhere in the food industry as an artificial colouring. Most famously, in chicken nuggets, since they chicken really should look a lot darker and messier, and that is seen as too unappetising vs adding white pigment that the body simply does not digest because it can't do anything with it
40k, 41k, 42k Lorgar is sometimes written so wonderful and nobody talks about it.
If Magnus did anything different, the Black King would have manifested.
Nah, new comment, still wrong tho
2:29:31 I think the way they should do it is make Corvus look more threatening and evil and make lorgar look more like a good guy, it would be an interesting subversion
14:12 Not only The Emperor's leaving fucked him up, but answering to the Lords of Terra (comprised of bureaucratic humans who've never fought or bled like the countless astartes Horus fought with) telling him what to do was a tipping point as well.
Also, Horus definitely saw astartes as being above human, and Horus Rising and False Gods touched on the idea of "What happens for the war machines when there is no more war?" He felt like humans would just step on the backs of the astartes who died reclaiming the galaxy, and the astartes would be forgotten after they're no longer needed.
Honestly, a whole episode could be done dissecting Horus Rising and False Gods for all the things that were itching at Horus and made it easier for him to snap.
This.
Hope you get 10k soon, my guy.
@gregtso7505 Thanks a million, G 🙌🏾
Long form Mr. Bones?! Yes!
"oh my god, that's my kid" lol
o my god emperor that whole Magnus bit had me unable to breath.
Arthur needs to be a permanent member hes so good with you guys.
Im sorry, Sexiest Servoskull in the 40k community is Baldermort
Man this was better than I thought that it was going to be. This is awesome.
we lost second kindest primarch to messed up brain surgery
I run Emperors Children. I have some bada$$ painted sonic marines.
And i have a lot of figures where i use white. Not in my army, just to collect and paint.
I use paint pigment powder and mix it myself.
I can make white that looks white as snow. And if you weather it, it dosnt come out looking yellow or what not.
The weathering looks really good on white.
And if your going to mix some white powder pigment into your white, i highly suggest getting a tiny paint shaker. Like the same one finger nail techs use.
You just strap it in and let it shake for a minute or 2. Am
I think i paid 20 for my paint shaker.
It also dosnt hurt as long as your not using glass to mix the paint in, buying some time ball bearings and putting 2-3 of them and then put them in the shaking machine.
"Even Mortarion, pales in comparison"
I mean one of Mortarion monikers being "pale king" afterall
And also knowing Horus' failed inter-legionary rebellion, there's theoretical ways to make Primarchs more powerful than physically-free Emperor of Mankind and it's not always have to be tied to chaos too
Something about lion el Johnson that is forgotten is Inspiration is partially from the Poet Lionel Johnson and his poem "dark angel"
There is good alpharius stuff in "Head of the Hydra" if you want a look inside his head. I think alpharius is in the running for most humble primarch: He listens to outside opinions, he sees value in working with regular people, and he doesn't care in the slightest about his reputation. His one blind spot is that he is extremely jealous of his siblings that get to storm in, take names, and get called heroes while he does all the vital but frustrating political bullshit in secret and because his job is to be secretive, nobody knows or cares.
In the modern setting, the alpha legion is lost. They KNOW their primarchs had a plan, but they didn't slip into the warp and skip the passage of time: they don't have anyone left who remembers or understands what the plan was, so without a primarch they've fallen apart. Some of their warbands are trying to improve the imperium by prodding it in the right places, some are trying to tear it down because it sucks, and some have gone full self-interested mercenary. I think it's funny that in the end, the alpha legion are just as confused as the audience about what they're supposed to do.
36:55 Now I want to see Art of Baki / Ferrus Manus XD
Alpha Legion have some great recent 40K content - Sons of the Hydra, Shroud of Night, and Harrowmaster, all excellent and move away from the memes
4h of listening to schizo meltdowns of Arthur and rest of you. That's time well spent.
1:28:58 that is the lions Literal reaction to when he has to deal with leman russ!
The picture if you don't understand what I'm talking about
Should have called this prose and khans and started with lorgar and jagatai
Oh this is fun.
We’re reaching levels of pun-age that shouldn’t even be possible.
Wait is Arthur just a head?... Sorry I just didn't expect that... I thought his avatar had a full body
it did but I guess they decided that a servo skull worked better than a full skeleton. Y'know full skeletons aren't often seen in 40k, but a flying mechanized skull is a more common sight. I'm also guessing that they just didn't want to try drawing the complex anatomy of a skeleton
I hope they release Lorgar and corvus together and logar looks like the emperor and corvus looks like a demon
Yes, it’s the kind of irony that reminds me of guts and Griffith and how one looks angelic but is evil and the other looks evil but is a good guy
This was absolutely awesome to listen to, its great to hear y’all have so much fun
Arthur. Connor? Cameron?! This man. He plays with my heart and emotions.
I thought that the Speartip tactic of combat became basically the standard combat doctrine of the Astartes. Shock troops in front, break the line with a wedge, then put pressure with the rest of the forces.
Please please please have Arthur on more episodes
I need Arthur's Alex the lion image
Primarch's who'd try to save the civilians in Curze's maze would be Vulkan, Corvis, Magnus and Sanguinius.
You forgot the Khan but incanon forgetting him is also correct
If it's pre discovery, Mortarion would too.
@@Pragabond Depends on how much he thinks he can make out of the civilians to be fair. Khan would save them but drop them if he sees them as unhelpful afterwards. Khan makes you earn your keep.
Forgot to add Corvis would actually be successful in saving the civilians from the maze because Corvis is just a 100% better version of Curze.
There are so many great lines in this, and I'm not even an hour in yet. The number of hot takes being thrown around are fantastic 👌