Muhammad Ali vs. Mike Tyson: Fantasy fight predicted by the Mayweather Boxing Club
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2018
- Jeff Mayweather asks some of the guys inside the Mayweather Boxing Club who would have won a fight between Mike Tyson and Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali in their prime.
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First of all, say "Muhammad Ali" (Did you forget he also fought for his "name"). I personally think Ali would would win.
Ali is the greatest
Love Mike.,but Ali in his prime was something else jst look what happened to Liston cassius was unbeatable his spirit was undeniable. Mike didn't have the reach and conditioning Ali's footwork was superior too
MÍKE TYSON WINS
Ali wins 10/10...
Ali wins
I love Ali even did a biography on him in school Mike Tyson was no slouch when it came to footwork tho and his head movement is the craziest I’ve seen from boxers those slips I’m sorry to say would get him on the inside of Ali jab and you know what mike does when he gets in the inside imagine if George Forman could move like mike he would of lost thriller in manilla
@@ceedaplug7449 Ali beat Foreman when he was out of his prime. 98% of all the experts, trainers, historians and fighters pick preban Ali. Ali wasn't textbook anything, boxed wrong, never held his hands up never went to the body slipped punches with his head but always found a way to win. He would confuse mike, tie him up, stick and move and by the late rounds it would be target practice, not to mention he had the fastest hands and best chin of any hw. Mike is awesome but Ali on another level✌️
Ali in his prime, 60's would humiliate that boy! Hands down y'all!
Cassius Clay wins 99 of 100 times. Too much of everything what Ali brings to the table. I think Cassius movement, the psychological factor and his tremendous heart give Mike most trouble. Ali always had a tough chin (see Earnie Shavers fight of a 35 year old Ali) and never lost a fight by real knockout. By the way Cassius/ Ali fought punchers like Liston, Foreman and Shavers in his career.
His name was Muhammad Ali. Not Cassius Clay. You can't even respect a legend.
I think you're missing the point. They were referring to his name in his younger years WHEN he was known as Cassius Clay which they consider his prime.
Hey "Slowness" you don't know the first thing about Ali. I was joking about an actual quote from Floyd Patterson before there bout, now wake-up, (and go back to sleep).
His parents gave him that name I guess they don't respect him either lol
why you calling him his slave name
Because talking about his prime... For example, Tyson name is now Malik Abdullaziz
His mama named him Cassius, I'm going to call him Cassius...
@@emilyrugburn9167 and he called himself ali so I’ll call him that. Also talking about names, I find it very disturbing that your name is Emily with a profile picture like that.
@@user-yw5pl6pj9y emily was referring to the coming to America barbershop scene
Huh - what the fuck you talking about ?? Am I missin summ fnk here my G.
There is literally no way Mike could beat ali. I don't think Mike could catch him and even if he did ali had a chin. No way even in 100 fights would Tyson even get a single win on the greatest
prime ali would blitz tyson
Ali would win
15 round fight. Ali would run for his life for 7 rounds and talk shit the whole time. By the 8th Mike would be tired and completely frustrated. That's when the fight would REALLY start. Except by that point, Ali has already won the crowd and the judges with his antics and is super confident. The more he lands, the more confused and embarrassed Mike becomes, and as Mike gets sloppy, Ali starts lighting him up. By the 11th round the corner stops the fight. Mike could beat anybody in their prime EXCEPT Ali. (and maybe Foreman because of his style)
Ur dumb
Bro Cassius Clay was super natural interms of speed
@stringtheoryguitars4952 ...Ali would have stopped Tyson before the twelfth round by a technical knockout or unanimously. There weren't any fifteen rounds in Tyson's era. Michael Gerard Tyson only went the distance six throughout his career.
Jeff is the BEST. He always raises my mood, he is hilarious. Jeff u legend
Ali at his best stares down two monsters in Liston and Foreman who were arguably even more intimidating than Mike... how can you go against Ali ---at his best, forget about it!
I'd chose Cassius Clay over Tyson. Clay moved all of the time. He would be hard for Tyson to hit. And he would've talked Tyson to death and got inside of his head. Tyson even got frustrated when he couldn't land a knockout blow on Holyfield. Clay had a great jab and way more endurance too.
Don't understand this Ali won't knock him out, that's exactly what he'd do, everytime Tyson came up against someone he couldn't blitz, he struggled.
Ali had too much weaponry and advantages, I firmly believe Ali KOs Tyson by round 9th heck, I see it a shock 4th round KO
Tyson, in his prime, was given a boxing lesson by Buster Douglas, and we're asking whether he would beat a prime Ali? 😂😂😂 Give me a break.
young 23 year old Tyson was given talkin lessons, boxin lessons, and What he need more which was fallin down lesson lol 😂
I don't think ali would able to work against Tyson long enough to go the distance without Tyson getting him, and I don't think ali would've KO'd him either. It's harder to call than most of these guys think imo. And it's important to know who D'amato would've been coaching leading up to the fight.
You know nothing about boxing stfu
Ali beats Tyson. Tyson would be similar to Joe Frazier the style but the difference is that Joe starts off slow in the early rounds Tyson goes for KO’s early but that wouldn’t effect Ali due to his footwork Tyson won’t catch him but I don’t think Ali would KO Tyson it would be a unanimous decision then
Think too when Ali fought Joe he didn't have his footwork. Only way Tyson could win is keep landing more shots, you couldn't KO Ali. Joe used cross guard so was hard to tie up, when guys tied up Tyson he fell apart
Frazier and Tyson aren't similar, that's a huge misconception. Tyson was a Boxer puncher, Frazier was a pure brawler and pressure fighter. Ali had trouble with him because it didn't matter how much ali Punished him, Frazier just kept coming. Tyson relied on out landing his opponents, making them miss and countering. Ali could answer all that, as he did with before. Tyson was a mid range, not a close range puncher. Ali excelled against mid to long range punchers but struggled against close range fighters such as Frazier and Norton.
MÍKE TYSON WÍNNER
@@dwaynemorrissey3524 MÍKE TYSON WÍNNER
@@cormacmcquillan828 joe fought in a straight line
moved head to much and up and down
threw jabs and straight hooks
did 2 punch combos
Tyson fought in a straight line bkut once close punched from angles
moved head around not just simple like joe
didnt throw much jabs
threw wide hooks
jumped into punches when he was a distance from the person
mike did this
tyson would dodge while doin combos joe didnt do that ether
did 4 or 5 punch combos mike did this
joe fought from close range
mike was mid range
mike was a counter puncher
joe wasnt a counter puncher he was a ducking and then punch take 1 and give one
Ali all the way. His footwork. His speed. Hits hard. And would get in Tyson head.
True
David Ortiz ...Absolutely!!!
And stamina going 15rds
Superior ring i.q
No contest !!!!!
Tyrell was an Ali type; he added punching while keeping range smoothly.
Punching quick midrange, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell
Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right
I'm able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return back smoothly. I can name more, but I don't have to.
Ali clinched a lot, bounced too much, which Joe or Cooper began to be able to read, and countered him easily. He had hands down low often and used head movement, but not the way moderns used it, which was head blocking with hands.
Even if Ali was as advanced as Tyrell, he would still be outdated because he would be in the 80s.
Liston vs Floyd Patterson is a good example to work out what could happen in a fantasy fight Liston vs Tyson
I'm a major fan of Tyson but there is no way Mike beats Ali
Dallas tx ...Honesty is the best policy. Thanks-a-million!
Eddie is point on. Tyson has to get set to punch, Evander new that, Douglas new that, Lewis new that and Ali the better boxer then all of them. Ali frustrates Tyson, stick and move, tie him up and Everytime Tyson gets set Ali is gone, not to mention the conditioning, speed and chin of Ali. No doubt Tyson is great but Ali..another level.
No tyson is not great
Not the gladiator who gets of the canvas to ever win a fight
@@earth7551 slow follower had to be hit mutiple times just to be on the mat
if a non-prime ali can beat a prime George foreman then prime ali destroys prime tyson, although i love tyson
ABC logic doesn't work in boxing airhead. Foreman beat frazier and frazier beat Ali but foreman lost to Ali. Styles makes fights
@@naeemislam1105 Frazier beat Ali, wen Ali was in past he's prime, but ant way Ali beat Frazier twice. So Ali beat Frazier 2-1. Formen did't just beat Frazier, he beat him in first round like a child ! So prime Ali will beat Frazier, Forman, Tyson and any boxer !
@@idghchjvbh7889p we call that fanboy talk here in reality. He was only human.
george and tyson are 2 different beasts...but ali would've won against tyson IMO
Bro seriously I couldn't have said it better my self
No one could beat Cassisus Ali
Mike’s only chance of beating Ali would be to get him outta there by 5 rounds. I can’t see that happening. Ali’s been in there with some guys that may have actually hit harder than Mike (Sonny Liston, Ernie Shavers, George Foreman, etc) so Mike wouldn’t likely be able to pull that off, plus Ali was a master at psychologically wrecking dudes. Then there’s that legendary footwork. Ali on points. Maybe late stoppage cause Mike’s been known to lose steam late in fights. This could mean trouble for Mike. Lots of trouble.
Ultimate fantasy boxing match of all time...if Tyson doesn't get him by round 3,then Ali...everyone seems sure that Tyson can't get an early KO, his only way of beating a prime Ali...I am not so sure...could go either way
The sad part is Ali never had a prime, he was stripped of his title for 3.5 years the best years of his career. With that said Ali still beats Tyson.
Michael Spinks was an extremely quick light heavyweight, and Tyson chased him down and trapped him. People forget how incredibly quick Tyson was, and he would have swarmed Ali and would have knocked out Ali in less the four rounds. Mike Tyson 🐐 GOAT
Do you mean the same way that he blitzed Buster Douglas or Evander Holyfield?!?! Whenever someone truly challenged Tyson he folded just like any typical bully would. To compare Spinks to 1964-1968 Ali is insanity.
We aren't talking about the old Tyson, were talking about in his prime.
You're delusional
@@bytraper he was in his prime when he fought buster
@@bytraper the same tyson that struggled with tillis and tucker who both went the distance on him?
Ali him self answered this in a interview. If he hits me, he acts like his is knocked out, then in Ali fashion smiles and says, but only if he could catch me...and we know he could not catch me
Yh but Mike Tyson said after I know im great but Muhammad ali is greatest, so wht u saying
Ali say that about everyone literally. He wasn’t really sure he could beat Liston either but decided to stay positive and stick to his strategy of shit talkin. Honestly tyson would underestimate Ali which is all Ali needed. Sonny Liston underestimated him, Ernie Terrel did, and George did. Every fight ali took the logic was against him which is something we all choose not to remember.
Ali wins... Respect from İstanbul turkey
People forget Tysons chin was like steel and he had stamina so u can’t pick that one easily. If you wasn’t twice his size then you were gonna be in for a rough 12 rounds. Ali definitely had more courage in terms of his confidence and determination. So both on equal levels or near enough.
I go with Ali by decision 12 or 15 rounds. He has beaten Liston, Frazier, & Foreman. Ali wouldn't fold under Tyson's pressure although he might get dropped by a Tyson hook at some point.
I go with ali, but you know what they say!, liston thru the fight!, but not frazier,nor forman. when tyson was interviewed by arsenio, tyson, said no one beats ali, he said, ali would take you out to deep water, and drown you, tyson said. so there you have it.tyson loved ali, he was tysons mentor. he would not want to fight him. much respect for him. rest in peace ali, you are loved.Louie Vaccaro,las vegas.
@jevon1007 ...Tyson wouldn't have dropped Ali. The latter would have dropped the former, instead. Ali would have defeated Tyson by a technical knockout.
@@brucescott4261 Ali was dropped by Frazier, Cooper, Wepner, he was succeptable to a hook, although he got right back up.
This question reminds me of the Ali-Ron Lyle match.
I enjoyed this. Real and funny.
In his prime tyson
“He stood straight up with his hands down all day. No one recognized it.” I won’t disagree that he often did that, but he had the athleticism, foot work, and speed to get away with it. Like Roy jones with better technique. I’m sure if someone could exploit it sonny Liston or George Forman would have been able to.
Ali
Ali would outbox mike.
@Mynne140 tyson has to beat ali in first 3 rounds. If this fight goes full 15. Ali drowns him
@Mynne140 ...Tyson would have never defeated Ali in a fantasy or real fight, PERIOD!!!
@Mynne140 in Tyson's later career? 74 Ali would shit literally on the face of 96 Tyson.
@Mynne Buster bust him up,!
@Mynne Tyson D:
Come on guys ,clay did not knock out Liston, he took a dive for the mob,it's common knowledge..look at the phantom punch,
I have to favor Ali but Cooper had him Down Frazier had him down Mike could defintely hurt him.
Also Ali did not have a hard punch if you can't get Mike to back up he is gonna be in your face.
On the other hand I could see Ali getting in his head and If Bone Crusher and Mitch Green can go the distance Ali sure can too and that would favor Ali.
Bro when Ali fought Cooper you could clearly see he was clowning around the first time around then in the 5 round he had Cooper on the run.
Soon after the Liston fight, Clay changed his name to Cassius X, and then later to Muhammad Ali upon converting to Islam and affiliating with the Nation of Islam.
Tell um Jeff Cassius is the man because of making liston quit on his stool second fight phantom punched his ass liston went canvas.
That's what made Casius Clay the liston fights showed his greatness
Ali hands down
Ali would stop Mike
The way the reporter talks reminds me of Samuel L Jackson ln the Movie Django :)
that isnt a reporter
It would be three fight series with Ali winning two out of three fights.
Prime Tyson was a lot like prime Joe Frazier but faster with more power and the type that gave Ali trouble Henry Cooper knocked Ali on his butt and let’s face it Cooper wasn’t in the same league as Mike Tyson . I say that with a heavy heart because I love Muhammad Ali ❤.
I think Tyson will say, Ali! Just hand the belt.
joe skitch ...Explain!
Ali was most distinguished and loved boxer , top man
Lol they are both very dangerous men Ali had better footwork but I think Tyson had more power I'm not sure who I pick lol
Oh man...I'd pick Ali,though I love Mike too
Remember, ali had no prime 3.5 beat years was stolen. Imagine still the greatest
Pound for pound, Cassius Clay was the greatest fighter to ever live. Muhammad Ali was the second greatest fighter of all time.
MÍKE THE BEST OF THE BEST WÍNNER
Ali 100%
Tyson's weakness was conditioning? Really? That's not true. Ali might have beaten him, but even Holyfield spoke to Tyson's conditioning.
clay 67 beat all of them
Ali is just to much of a dominant man. He would get into Tysons head and beat him with his presence
"The Greatest"Muhammad Ali by sixth round disqualification.
Ali all day
His name is Muhammad Ali.
His name is Muhammad Ali.
His name is Muhammad Ali.
His name is Muhammad Ali.
His name is Muhammad Ali.
His name is Muhammad Ali.
Ali will won !
Tell this CLOWN who does the questions that the mans name is ALI.
The fans will win
21 year old tyson would beat an 21 year old Ali.
@@ebellkwontol6332 everybody can lost can a fight. So what’s your point
Prime Mike Tyson hard to pick anyone over him but Ali but still hard
Ali is too smart but the only advantage of Tyson is his head movement , Ali always faced problem with fighters with good head movement
Not really Ali would jab and cut tysons eyes
@@earth7551 Tyrell was an Ali type; he added punching while keeping range smoothly.
Punching quick midrange, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell
Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right
I'm able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return back smoothly. I can name more, but I don't have to.
Ali clinched a lot, bounced too much, which Joe or Cooper began to be able to read, and countered him easily. He had hands down low often and used head movement, but not the way moderns used it, which was head blocking with hands.
Even if Ali was as advanced as Tyrell, he would still be outdated because he would be in the 80s.
@@ascendediam are you staking me ??
@@earth7551 Tyrell was an Ali type; he added punching while keeping range smoothly.
Punching quick midrange, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell
Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right
I'm able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return back smoothly.
I can name more, but I don't have to.
Ali clinched a lot, bounced too much, which Joe or Cooper began to be able to read, and countered him easily. He had hands down low often and used head movement, but not the way moderns used it, which was head blocking with hands.
Even if Ali was as advanced as Tyrell, he would still be outdated because he would be in the 80s
If his mama calls him clay, then i'm calling him clay.
U wouldn't call him clay to his face
True
@@ascendantking2178 Muhammad Ali is boxer in a ring but outside he was just wrestler
Gregory Tyse ...Muhammad Ali had legalized his name, PERIOD!!!
@@brucescott4261hey Sruce Bcott, it was a joke genius from the the mouth of Floyd Paterson before they fought. I apologize for my joke going over your head, but it was attended for us that truly knew Ali.
ali big strong fast defense great chin adatabb
ali the best in all areas ten cross the board
Ali clqy knock out the punchers sonny foreman shavers
I don't need to listen to everybody's predictions! because I am the best fight predictor of all times! I study these Fighters I know they're good habits bad habits the wins and losses weaknesses and strengths! Now if Ali could weather the storm the first four rounds by holding Tyson's head back and down and putting weight on him and tying him up then Ali would have it in the bag from the fifth round on and put the beating on Tyson maybe knock KO him the same token Ali might get knocked out within the first four rounds Tyson tires out after 4 but I am going with Ali gets the win Ali was the greatest boxer of all times not real heavy-handed but enough to destroy you speed brains footwork! ex pro boxer foundered of Boxing VS UFC and best fight predictor of all times Rocky the Eastern Assassin Esterline
@rockyesterline7942 ...Tyson wouldn't have knocked out Ali, PERIOD!!!
A prime Ali would take mike out within 7 round hands down!
Wrong mike beat mutiple knockoffs of people more advanced with ali style it was no one ali beat with Mike's style
@@ascendediam You sure buddy?, What about Floyd patterson 🤪🤪🥴🥴
@@Estehmanistawar nope I'm not just made it up yet it's mutiple videos that can watch troll somebody else, what about Floyd a lhw who fought nothing like Mike who fought in a basic flawed era compared to the '80s
Jake Paul , destroys both fighters
How the hell did Mike lack the conditioning? There's a difference between lacking something and simply not having to tap into the shit! Mike was a soul crusher. Your 🥴 if you think Mike wasn't going to be able to hit Ali. This kid was taking down Giants at will.
Non of those giants Tyson faced had a single ounce of speed sorry lol 😆 😂
Tyson was faster and Ali had trouble with fighters like Frazier that came in close to fight and there's no doubt that Tyson would have absolutely smoked Frazier. Frazier and Tyson had similar styles but Tysons was far more evolved as well as him being much faster. He was extremely fast for a heavyweight.
On the flip side, Ali could take a hit better than most boxers, but I think Tysons speed as well as power in both hands would win.
bytraper ...Tyson wasn't faster than Ali, PERIOD!!!
@@brucescott4261 how would George beat mike If he wouldnt land you crazy idiot
You know nothing about boxing stfu don't ever disrespect the greatest with your stupidity
@@brucescott4261, Agreed, bytraper is a moron.
Ali's prime was 1966-1977 not 1964. Mike would have a chance of beating an 1964 Ali imo (when Ali was Cassius)
I don’t think he had a prime tbh
@@thegreatestproductions1880 Neither did Tyson.
@@ascendancy4900 nah he did before Cus D’Mato passed away and Kevin Rooney getting fired by Don King man King fucking ruined him
@@thegreatestproductions1880 No, fighters' physical prime start at between the age of 27-30. Cus and Rooney were long gone by then, stop stating your thoughts as facts.
@@ascendancy4900 tysons prime was 88 wdym
Ali all day, every day---Love Mike but a 1966-67 Ali's speed/skill combined with his chin (Only ko'd once in 2nd to last fight against Holmes--even then it was a tko no a straight KO) and boxing intel make it his fight. Will be a war but Ali/Cassius' fight
Mike Tyson’s only weakness was himself. He lost the fight outside of the ring and the one in his head. That’s the only reason he has blemishes on his record. We can’t change anything that already happened, and all the shit in his personal life drew out all that tenacity & relentlessness, but if Mike was to get control of himself like he does now days, he would’ve walked through every fighter in his era and climbed the ranks to 🐐 status. Should coulda woulda, still Top 15, my personal Top 10, ever.
Ali exposed the peak a boo on cus .. that jab is a problem for that technique.. buster douglas did exactly that
Prime Tyson would have lost to Lewis but nobody wants to talk about that...
time to go to the hospital person who isn't sane, and clearly has health problems, you must've known my name was true you told me you're health problems on top of you're not sane
Mike fought a man named lorenzo he moved around lateral but had a basic come forward slow jab he was destroyed cause of it don't believe me watch the match
now watch son who was slower at hand and more easy to read and was more sloppy and had that same basic come forward jab, There's no way you can really see him and lorenzo, and can't, see lorenz was more advanced and acted like you see son was more advanced than him and think you see son able to survive its obvious son would be destroyed
See how you shouldn't repeat followers' quotes?
No one ever got anywhere coming to mike nonstop, one one ever mike fought beat him who was slow and easy to read and basic why would son?
Which match did son face who fought like mike? it wasn't floyd he also was a lhw
What great fighters did Tyson beat? Holmes? That's about it. Ali fought and beat all-time great heavyweights. Liston, Frazier, Foreman.
Muhammad win
Tyson by ko late rounds i say this cuz Frazier whooped his ass n Tyson was superb
What do u mean by late rounds? 12 or 15? 😂 Ali could dance all night up until the 15th. Tyson wouldn’t last
@@user-ku5hs3ji8k
Agreed and tyson just doesn't have ring i.q to adjust either
@@earth7551 Tyrell was an Ali type; he added punching while keeping range smoothly.
Punching quick midrange, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell
Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right
I'm able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return back smoothly. I can name more, but I don't have to.
Ali clinched a lot, bounced too much, which Joe or Cooper began to be able to read, and countered him easily. He had hands down low often and used head movement, but not the way moderns used it, which was head blocking with hands.
Even if Ali was as advanced as Tyrell, he would still be outdated because he would be in the 80s.
cassus ali all day
Wrong mike already beat the advanced ver known as tyrell
Why would mike lose to a
Ali was like Joe Louis, fought bums of the month for years. Tyson in his prime would beat any heavyweight.
Prime ali was no joke you cant be serious. He did fight bums but he was the greatest and the fastest especially when he was in his 20’s. Ali would beat a prime tyson. He beat liston and foreman.
@@Djuane Ali wasn't faster than Tyson in his prime
@@iankelly5797 then clearly you’re too young or havent seen ali in his prime on video if think tyson was faster. Fastest hands for a heavyweight no one moved like ali at his size. I suggest you check out his career on vincents channel who has plenty of footage that will change your mind
@@Djuane it won't change my mind at all. Tyson in his prime would get under Ali's guard no problem. He had problems with shorter people. And Tyson was faster than all those shorter people and hit a lot harder. And I love Ali and have watched all his fights many times. My favourite Heavyweight of all time is Lennox Lewis and even though he beat Tyson he wouldn't have stood a chance against Tyson in his prime. I'm not an Ali hater.
@@iankelly5797 Ali is tooo much of a boxer , too fast too confident and he isnt a stationary target. his style especially would be very hard for guys that lack reach ''peek a boo'' boxers such as the legendary mike tyson !
i expect it to look a like floyd vs manny
ali was a dancer.....tyson had way more power
Ali had the chin for it👍
Ali had superior ring i.q
@@user-ku5hs3ji8k Tyrell was an Ali type; he added punching while keeping range smoothly.
Punching quick midrange, then using a shoulder to block with a semi-Philly shell
Able to punch to the body fast from a counter left to right
I'm able to come in with a quick combo, back up, get punches landed on, then return back smoothly. I can name more, but I don't have to.
Ali clinched a lot, bounced too much, which Joe or Cooper began to be able to read, and countered him easily. He had hands down low often and used head movement, but not the way moderns used it, which was head blocking with hands.
Even if Ali was as advanced as Tyrell, he would still be outdated because he would be in the 80s.
@@ascendediam
Listen man it doesn't matter what you say Ali's reach with his jab and cut tyson eyes up and will mentally break tyson down
tyson can't go 15rds
Not mention Ali's superior ring i.q will see tyson getting ready to load up just like how
Douglas, Holyfield, Lewis catch tyson first
tyson was overhyped fighter
@@ascendediam
Tyrrell is not Ali so your facts are incorrect
Tyson was knocked out by Douglas and twice by holyfied 😢☝️
way more advanced fighters than the whole 70s you're point follower?
Follower
Lunatic
Looney
You can take the five best fighters from the 90 and match them with the 70 in all the divisions and see which era's comes out in top☝️😀
Ali in 9 rounds by TKO or KO.
tyson kill Ali in prime easy
lmao - Ali will just screw Mike up with his words!
Antoine Shark bodybuilding ...Explain.
cassus ali all day
Tyson dominates the moment he realises Ali can’t hurt him
Steve Lott said this and I agree with it a lot,
He said Ali would win the first fight, and Tyson in the rematch would realise Ali can’t hurt him and it would be a massacre
Pre Draft Ali got hurt by guys like 190lb Henry Cooper, needed smelling salts, dropped by Sonny banks, hurt by Doug Jones, chased out the ring by Karl Mildenberger, thats Prime Ali at his worst.
Prime Tyson at his worst was getting decisions over fighters, not hurt or anything, it was bad if Tyson didn’t knock them out.
Ali said Patterson was the most skilled guy Ali ever fought, Tyson was everything Patterson but even better.
Not true, patterson was better skillwise, tyson just had more power
@@jayembrown5395 tyson had better head movement, quicker footwork, better angles, better jab
Delusional. Ali played with the most feared boxer of all time (Sonny Liston). Ali had better jab, better mindgames, better footwork, better stamina, better chin, was faster than Tyson, had bigger reach than Tyson (just like Douglas, Lewis and Holyfield), and most of all, had more heart than Tyson.
Tyson gets knocked and he does not get up.
You mentioned Ali fight against Cooper right? Cooper knocked down Ali and in the next round Ali destroyed him, and knocked him out in that same round.
You can say whatever you want , but Prime Ali (1966-67) beats any version of Tyson.
Don’t forget, your hands can’t hit what your eyes can’t see!
@@Gerbildo123456789 Tyson can clearly see Ali if Doug Jones and Henry cooper could, Tyson had faster footwork more explosive more power, Tyson had a good chin, Ali’s not a big puncher so doesn’t matter much, Tysons losses were from guys who brang the action to him, Ali didn’t do that
@@imadeyoureadthis1500 tell me one fighter who was able to hit Champion Ali clean before the suspension.
Mike would beat the living hell of ali
And I love ali to dead
Looney
frazier was slipping ali's jabs and mike was way faster than him.
Heres how it is:
Ali vs Tyson on their BEST DAY I think Tyson beats him. Tyson was imo at one point in time the greatest example of a heavyweight we've ever seen. Lightening speed, ferocious power, incredible defence and head movement and the ability to slip punches like a welterweight.
However, when talking about p4p status and overall legacy of course Ali is higher up that list. Ali achieved much more and Tyson's peak was very short lived.
legacy Ali.
Fantasy Fight in their prime, Tyson.
Nope on there beat day meaning ali who fought Cleveland Williams, the ali who fought Sonny Liston, the ali who fought Ernie Terrell, or the ali who fought Zora foley. Get this Sonny and Ernie Terrell had longer reach than Ali. I think ali wins. Farrr too evasive, farrrr tooo agile, farrr tooo quick interns of reaction speed and reflexes. Young Cassius was built for speed. He could literally react to something just as fast as he can punch. When people hear Cassius Clay especially when I hear the name, first thing I think of is speed speed and more speed
@@RahimmacDonald don’t mention Cleveland Williams, the guy was no long after being shot and had a large part of his stomach removed, he was a shell of his former self. Liston and Terrell don’t beat Tyson either.
You talk about speed…..you think Tyson didn’t have any? He was incredibly quick. Ali was not getting away from him and he certainly wasn’t going to rope a dope him either that would have been a disaster for him.
@@KristianH1986 Ali is far quicker than Tyson sorry
@@KristianH1986 no excuses for Tyson. Tyson was cry baby who always needed love and support instead of having thicker skin. When someone who wasn’t blood died, Tyson folded. Tyson is highly overrated all the guys Tyson beat, a young 22 year old Ali could beat them too so.
@@KristianH1986 I you have your opinion and I have my opinion nothing wrong with that. I believe young Ali or Cassius clay version was so fast that he could escape Tyson. You choose to believe otherwise. At the end of the day bright one of us is right or wrong while Mike was good at cornering people, he cornered people who were no where near the same speed as Ali. Ali was an escape specialist. You watch highlights and footage of Tyson throwing flurries at the bag in training and doing that jump rope trick and automatically assume he is the best ever. I choose to go off how he performed against buster when he was only 23 years old which is considered a prime year