This is also one of the ways Pika wins so many 1v1 situations on stream as well. He'll get a stun off and los for long enough to get stealth, then he'll just hide to recover health and cooldowns. Great vid, man. Would love to see more analysis videos on arena.
Everybody here comparing whaazz or pshero or what not but they’re all at insanely high levels of gameplay and if any of you faced them in arena, you’d lose just the same ;) wouldn’t know the difference even. The top several rogues are all indistinguishably high skill cap compared to even decent players. Just splitting hairs at that point. Give them all credit for their dedication to their craft! Pal is now up there with them at the time of this comment. Well done sir, you’ve come a long way! Earned your slice of infamy as one of the best rogues to play the game! Cheers
Did this constantly as rogue ret priest in Wotlk, most people played it as an all in zerg comp (which worked too). But abusing double dispel and just constantly resetting we'd be way more consistent.
Pikaboo knows the rogue and every other class, listening to him commentate was incredible. was like he was saying what will happen before it actually happened on every class. was impressive.
well yea... arena is cooldown trade, and it's about experience, I started playing pvp in bfa season 4 and when I was around 200 arenas played I sucked at observing my surroundings and I was punished for that I was around 1.7k rating but by the time I got to 2000 arenas played I already started to observe the important stuff and even predict future enemy movements being able to counter some by just good positioning which got me to 2.5k rating... It took me 2000 arenas to get good and pikaboo has like 50000 arenas played... so the secret beside the obvious Macro/Addons for cc whatever good UI is to play arenas like mad!
This is partially true. However there are players that have over 100 thousand games played at around 2k or higher rating for several expansions in a row. Yet still a handful of them are able to achieve their milestones while the vast majority still seem to be either "stuck" or in a position where they are just unable to progress. A lot of it has to do with perception, reaction time, solid muscle memory etc... Not every rogue which has been playing since TBC consistently (and who has achieved multiple glads/r1s) is guaranteed to become a Whaazz, Pikaboo, or Reckful in the future. Some players tendencies to understand the game quickly and grasp and important mechanics while having such a flexible adaptibility through proficient class-knowledge as well as decision making is what starts to separate players like Pikaboo to other multi r1 rogues.
@@johnlappa5447 well yea some people are more slow in the mind :)) and will stay at 2k mmr even with a ton of arenas played, the quicknes of the mind defenetly separates the good from the best
@@bcristian4014 Yeah sometimes it can also be differentiated by how well your learning acquisition skills are too. Generally smart players who have a decent aptitude to understand the depth of a game are more likely to succeed in games that require positional and mechanical awareness like WoW in the tourney scene.
B Cristian i don’t want to be toxic or idk what buuut... u know... the s4 of bfa was a real sand box and trash season PvP... I mean when u check the xp of any player ur facing in arena, everybody have 2k4 because of this season so..
@@rody7669 haha you can't be toxic saying BFA pvp was trash it really was, and with the new pve trinkets introduced we may have another one :)) hope not
Not sure fully what you mean! As in the other team? I guess if you play against a team like this, your best bet is to adapt to to going for win conditions off the other teammates.
Hey man I'm actually going to be starting off on Rogue in Shadowlands but i'm sure i'll eventually get around to playing many classes. Going to try to make lots of videos for each
@@flextime6349 I couldn't tell you who is mechanically the small percentile difference better lmao, but for my personal favorite of the 2 is for sure Pika.
Pickaboo is a genius kid and an insane rogue. I don't know if he's the best in the WoW but he's definately at the top. Another great rogue player imo is Pshero.
I mean comparing Pikaboo too Whazz is like comparing a 1500 days experience player to a 1501 player. They're both so insanely good you won't be able to straight up see differences in gameplay. I agree though that Whazz and Pika are top 2.
its rather like comparing 2 marathon runners running different types of roads with different obstacles but finishing at the same time. theyre both the best rogues just with different playstyles
@@HellPraq That's why Whazz won blizzcon and has been higher rated than Pika and plays on EU leaderboard than US and pika even admitted Whazz is better. Keep riding that Pikadick bud.
I agree but your forgetting to talk about how good his 2 other players are.. the amount of time he runs to get a re stealth just to survive while his teammate dies. Seen him do this so much. So don't talk about pikaboo running from a fight talk about how good his healer and other partners are period!!! Ya trying to take WAYYYYYY TOOO MUCH CREDIT playing a rogue.. your crimson vial must heal other players...
I understand what you’re saying but that’s not really what I want to get across with this concept. It’s more about the proactive mindset than just “getting restealths.” Cheers though!
He is not a champ because of his lack of skill but his choice in class he plays. At no point ever has a rogue won blizz con and never will. This is because all the casters and plate wearers cry if rogues are on the power level as them and they get nurfed in the first season in every expansion.
You sneaky rogue! You got mad with pika better comments in chat and tried to destroy him! Besides jokes he is like Lebron of wow. and you compare him vs Kobe and we all know who MJ is. Whaazz RMP was like GSW on prime. When we go for "best" we need more than just gameplay. Best priest : hydra (you can see mehhx domination in general) cdew- sterge similar. if we just go for stats we have freaky level multiclasser snutz or fabss if u go for rings. or my fav : the guy who can be called pve noob and pvp noob at the same time "Trill".
Idk dude, i can't stand his face OR his voice. I can't disagree with the statement that heis an amazing player, but i literally can't watch him for more than 10 seconds without my blood pressure rising, same thing with xaryu.
@@adamlouw9575 Ok douche. So? Do you think your opinion of me matters to me in any way? You think i'm "cringe" why? Because i stated i heavily disslike someone's face and voice? I didn't insult him, didn't call him names, on the contrary, i stated that he's an amazing player, i just find him very annoying, what's the problem? People can't be honest anymore? You're all too damn busy being politically correct and social butterflies all the time. I have no problem telling someone i don't like them, i'm honest and open, so if you have a problem with me or my comment, that's perfectly fine.
The owl gave me epilepsy
2:23 LMFAO bruh
This is also one of the ways Pika wins so many 1v1 situations on stream as well. He'll get a stun off and los for long enough to get stealth, then he'll just hide to recover health and cooldowns. Great vid, man. Would love to see more analysis videos on arena.
this is the most basic principle of rogue tho. Hiding when you're vulnerable and waiting. Pikaboo is one of the best but he didn't invent the wheel
@@foxmulder8955 yeah, Reckful did
Thx 4 your Guides and Videos. Really good stuff pls continue Like this
that owl thing broke me haha :'D
my knees hurt from just watching this video.
Everybody here comparing whaazz or pshero or what not but they’re all at insanely high levels of gameplay and if any of you faced them in arena, you’d lose just the same ;) wouldn’t know the difference even. The top several rogues are all indistinguishably high skill cap compared to even decent players. Just splitting hairs at that point. Give them all credit for their dedication to their craft! Pal is now up there with them at the time of this comment. Well done sir, you’ve come a long way! Earned your slice of infamy as one of the best rogues to play the game! Cheers
I did Exactly that Back in Wotlk... I miss those days
Did this constantly as rogue ret priest in Wotlk, most people played it as an all in zerg comp (which worked too). But abusing double dispel and just constantly resetting we'd be way more consistent.
So good. :) Juicy stuff.
Pikaboo knows the rogue and every other class, listening to him commentate was incredible. was like he was saying what will happen before it actually happened on every class. was impressive.
well yea... arena is cooldown trade, and it's about experience, I started playing pvp in bfa season 4 and when I was around 200 arenas played I sucked at observing my surroundings and I was punished for that I was around 1.7k rating but by the time I got to 2000 arenas played I already started to observe the important stuff and even predict future enemy movements being able to counter some by just good positioning which got me to 2.5k rating... It took me 2000 arenas to get good and pikaboo has like 50000 arenas played... so the secret beside the obvious Macro/Addons for cc whatever good UI is to play arenas like mad!
This is partially true. However there are players that have over 100 thousand games played at around 2k or higher rating for several expansions in a row. Yet still a handful of them are able to achieve their milestones while the vast majority still seem to be either "stuck" or in a position where they are just unable to progress.
A lot of it has to do with perception, reaction time, solid muscle memory etc... Not every rogue which has been playing since TBC consistently (and who has achieved multiple glads/r1s) is guaranteed to become a Whaazz, Pikaboo, or Reckful in the future. Some players tendencies to understand the game quickly and grasp and important mechanics while having such a flexible adaptibility through proficient class-knowledge as well as decision making is what starts to separate players like Pikaboo to other multi r1 rogues.
@@johnlappa5447 well yea some people are more slow in the mind :)) and will stay at 2k mmr even with a ton of arenas played, the quicknes of the mind defenetly separates the good from the best
@@bcristian4014 Yeah sometimes it can also be differentiated by how well your learning acquisition skills are too. Generally smart players who have a decent aptitude to understand the depth of a game are more likely to succeed in games that require positional and mechanical awareness like WoW in the tourney scene.
B Cristian i don’t want to be toxic or idk what buuut... u know... the s4 of bfa was a real sand box and trash season PvP... I mean when u check the xp of any player ur facing in arena, everybody have 2k4 because of this season so..
@@rody7669 haha you can't be toxic saying BFA pvp was trash it really was, and with the new pve trinkets introduced we may have another one :)) hope not
Love this! Thank you 😍
Look at this guy hes come so far
No face cam and now hes a bald old man :D
ok but how u do this vs dot specs like locks, sp, boomy
Same thing, play around your healer, move around the map together.
The owl killed me so hard 😂
Who did?
Do u know he is Timpahooo not Pikaboo like previously?
Haha what?
what addon is that hes using that displays the enemies skills and when they use them to display a CD
Called Omnibar! I might make an entire video on this and how to set it up soon!
Pleaseee make that video!!
@@Palumor I'd be happy to see it :)
I thought the owl was my imagination LMAO
But how do you counter this? Them taking control of who you can burst
Not sure fully what you mean! As in the other team? I guess if you play against a team like this, your best bet is to adapt to to going for win conditions off the other teammates.
@@Palumor not sure i understand but alright, yeah that's what i meant tough
Nice informative video!
Thanks Andrew!
Sheesh my man best rogue in the game?
Woah. But srsly this title - it's multiple r1s and glad in every season. (And btw my man is epic memer)
I'd like to have omnibar configured this way. Doi you know if there are some profiles to DL to do so? Thanks
I may actually do an omnibar setup guide in the future soon!
@@Palumor yes please!
Hiding and name is Pikaboo, Epic .
Did that all the time in cata. My ret was in full blues and we took him to 2400 running wps.
That's the move!
great video Pikaboo is arguably the best rogue ever but can we get some love for Reckful, his videos in cata changed the game RIP
the 4 horsemen of rogue: Reckful, Pikaboo, Whaazz and Pshero
@@bollekwow daaamn i forgot about pshero that man is a computer
Whaazz is the best hands down
makes a mage fire rotation and brust guide in the shadowlands
Hey man I'm actually going to be starting off on Rogue in Shadowlands but i'm sure i'll eventually get around to playing many classes. Going to try to make lots of videos for each
I thought whazzz was the best? Which would you say is better, unbiased?
I think they're both incredibly good, probably just biased bc i'm from NA lol.
@@Palumor if you had to pick tho haha
@@flextime6349 I couldn't tell you who is mechanically the small percentile difference better lmao, but for my personal favorite of the 2 is for sure Pika.
@@Palumor ah okay I’m just new to the game and scene and was wondering which one I should base my rouge off of
I’d say best Rogue all time internationally prime Reckful he was just raw and too good ..
Pickaboo is a genius kid and an insane rogue. I don't know if he's the best in the WoW but he's definately at the top. Another great rogue player imo is Pshero.
yeah but lets be real the reason it works so good is cuz poison knife procs gushing which is alrdy an insane spell w/o gushing
Pikaboo vs sphero please that's one fight I like to pay for. Best out of 10 duals..
lets take a peek 😂😂😂
dont want to be rude or something but u just break down 2.6+ mmr tactics and playstyle :D
That's sort of the point. :) Not everyone is 2.6+ haha.
dont be so down on yourself bro, youre actually better than pikaboo
Lol that’s super kind of you, but Pikaboo is a beast!
As a EU player I’d pick Whaazz as the best rogue player any day
I mean comparing Pikaboo too Whazz is like comparing a 1500 days experience player to a 1501 player. They're both so insanely good you won't be able to straight up see differences in gameplay. I agree though that Whazz and Pika are top 2.
its rather like comparing 2 marathon runners running different types of roads with different obstacles but finishing at the same time. theyre both the best rogues just with different playstyles
Pshero
@@BuscoAlmas lmao not even compareable bro
@@W4lkst4r why u say that?
Whaaz be like : ok ^^
Nahj wants to know your location
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, and while pikaboo is definitely one of the best at it this is kind of arena 101.
Punctuation is your friend.
nice vid man. u should def check out pshero hes my top pick both great players :)
I know pshero! He's quite on OG in the scene haha.
real
"best wrong" entirely wrong, he is one of the top 3 rogues world wide but the best rogue in the world is Whazz no doubt.
Thanks for your insight. :)
@@Palumor Facts*
@@HellPraq That's why Whazz won blizzcon and has been higher rated than Pika and plays on EU leaderboard than US and pika even admitted Whazz is better. Keep riding that Pikadick bud.
@@Malphaze Haha, how much do you get paid for promoting whaazz?
@@gamerknown $300
I agree but your forgetting to talk about how good his 2 other players are.. the amount of time he runs to get a re stealth just to survive while his teammate dies. Seen him do this so much. So don't talk about pikaboo running from a fight talk about how good his healer and other partners are period!!! Ya trying to take WAYYYYYY TOOO MUCH CREDIT playing a rogue.. your crimson vial must heal other players...
I understand what you’re saying but that’s not really what I want to get across with this concept. It’s more about the proactive mindset than just “getting restealths.” Cheers though!
I guess you missed some of the games where pikaboo gets popped
Lol it happens
I'm telling Nahj
Thats the reason he is blizzcon champ ..... oh wait no
Damn, savage guy right here.
He is not a champ because of his lack of skill but his choice in class he plays. At no point ever has a rogue won blizz con and never will. This is because all the casters and plate wearers cry if rogues are on the power level as them and they get nurfed in the first season in every expansion.
@@hibob2903 u called it
@@hibob2903 whaazz is rogue main an blizzcon champ so gg
@@awrj whaazz is blizzcon champ as rogue main so gg
Acrololz best
So the reason he is the best, is because he cares about imaginary numbers on a screen. Got it
What did this even mean? Five months and nobody has said a thing about this comment Lmao
do be a banger
You sneaky rogue! You got mad with pika better comments in chat and tried to destroy him! Besides jokes he is like Lebron of wow. and you compare him vs Kobe and we all know who MJ is. Whaazz RMP was like GSW on prime. When we go for "best" we need more than just gameplay. Best priest : hydra (you can see mehhx domination in general) cdew- sterge similar. if we just go for stats we have freaky level multiclasser snutz or fabss if u go for rings. or my fav : the guy who can be called pve noob and pvp noob at the same time "Trill".
Whaaz is waaaay ahead of pikaboo.
Pika just abusing sub rogue nothing more
Haha.
Nahj better
Nahj, Whazz and Pika are all nuts!
@@Palumor what about pshero xD
first comment pog
Only classic is good anyways TBC and everything else is trash
retail pvp is so trash
Idk dude, i can't stand his face OR his voice. I can't disagree with the statement that heis an amazing player, but i literally can't watch him for more than 10 seconds without my blood pressure rising, same thing with xaryu.
Haha it is what it is!
that sucks man
@@beermademesmart shut up fanboy 😂😂
Look at you defending against random comments on the internet
*slow clap*
@@Dragunov0511 its not cringe what he's doing, you're being cringe. A total non-Black Swan for the internet but we defer...
@@adamlouw9575 Ok douche.
So? Do you think your opinion of me matters to me in any way? You think i'm "cringe" why? Because i stated i heavily disslike someone's face and voice? I didn't insult him, didn't call him names, on the contrary, i stated that he's an amazing player, i just find him very annoying, what's the problem? People can't be honest anymore? You're all too damn busy being politically correct and social butterflies all the time.
I have no problem telling someone i don't like them, i'm honest and open, so if you have a problem with me or my comment, that's perfectly fine.