Turbo E46 What does a stock M54b30 look like after 20psi?
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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I hope you know how much this kind of content is appreciated by us stock E46 guys. Very tempting to start upgrading soon.
Thanks man!
not just the e46 guys but your e39's too!
Amd e30 guys with m54b30 engine 😍
+1 Boii I found a new channel for my e46 subs pool
X3 E83 too :) SUV or not we all dream of more HP @@M54B30EChassis
What fantastic engines bmw make , 20psi on Stock NA engine is a lot ,I don't know any other engine that don't have turbo from stock to can hold so good at that power, and with stock every part this is amazing!!keep the good job
Thanks man!
volvo redblock, honda b k, aand not much more
@@lazarstevanovic3868 honda motors don't stand a chance against 20psi on a stock shortblock
@@danielmoukli4590 my bad, where i live there are 0 hondas only vag/bmw/alfa
Ford Barra is strong NA but not 20 psi strong:)
My opinion is that if you have scorings on your piston rod bearing you would better check the camshaft bearings as well. Replace them and have a peace of mind.
Great stuff!
Thanks!
Well I am a new fan. I'm slowly building my DRY myself and from knowledge a M54 was a good motor for tuning and upgrading but would never have thought it would hold 20 psi holy fuck lol. I want your tuner because I now have a big respect for him
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I subscribed. I have a 2003 BMW 530i and never knew the M54b30 could make so much power! Holy shit!
Yeah they can be pretty solid engines
my m54b30(stock) has 255k on it and ive been itching to pull the motor and disassemble it. after watching this, I have a lot more confidence in my little blu bimmer :)
Send it!
Yo this is a dope video bro… the fact that you were running it all stock and it could handle 20psi+ only shows the capabilities of the m54b30… great video
Just about a week ago I was gonna say you know what it’s time for a new engine but this video changed my mind
Awesome! Thanks a lot!
M54 in general are a brilliant engine and extremely under rated, everyone jokes about BMW always breaking down but the m54b25 and b30 are among some of the most reliable and capable engines out there, and have a beautiful sound and handle a turbo like it was meant to be, as long as you don't overdo the boost or make sure to do some supporting upgrades. In fact the only real downside to them is the sheer size for swapping into other shells or adding turbo can be extremely tight, especially for us right hand drivers the steering and chassis leg get in the way of adding the exhaust but once the work is done, there's nothing quite like it and you never regret it. They are relatively easy to tune on the stock ECU as well. The M54 and the old Volvo t5 2.3 5 cylinder with a td04 (can't remember the engine code off the top of my head) are my favourite engines of all time for similar reasons. They never fail to put a smile on your face when the boost kicks in strong.
Salut, effectivement ce sont des moteurs incroyable et performant si on les règles bien 👍👍, pour ma par la mienne tourne avec 0, 7 /1bar avec ethanol full stock depuis 5ans et aucuns soucies 👍👍
C'est vraiment géniale cette constructeur BMW e46 330ci 👌
Hell yes we like it! I’ve been having nothing but problems with my Jeep for two years and I’ve been looking for a 330i. This content helps all the rest of us trying to do what you’ve done to your car to our cars.
Thanks man! These are the comments I like!
dont cheap out on a crappy example or you'll be chasing down everything the previous owners couldnt afford to fix. be patient for a good 330i and you'll love it
Its amazing just how clean your piston tops are from the E
One hood thing of E85
NOS does the same thing also marval mystery oil too.
Cool video! Sadly for me my engine after 2 years boosted and dozen or so races I have mega blow by, two cylinders with compression out of spec. Still boosts no problem. This video inspires me to rework that engine
Do it!
Broken ringlands
There are so many forums about how you “shouldn’t” push 10+psi & I look here… the motor looks solid after double
I mean I wouldn’t recommend it lol 😂 This head gasket blew twice.
Good video. U should wear a headcam when breaking down the motor..those visuals would be very helpful to user. Keep up the good work bro
Great content man finally someone that come with a real build list THANK YOUU!!!!
Wow, now that is a cool content. Too bad that in my country (Italy) there are no e85 stations..only pump gas 😥
Thanks man!
Keep Going My Friend. 100K soon!
Congratulations to your tuner!
Hes awesome!
M54b30 is great engine
12.9 bolts will do the job nice
Hell yea I’m subscribing brotha. Can’t wait to pull the m54 out my e39 and start rebuilding it.
Get new bearings and mains too but I would of checked them with plastic plastic gauge you lay them across the width of the Bearing and then record them and see what they are to spec and compare them to the paper you can get it at a machine shop. Your con rod bearings are worn. Use marval mystery oil to some your parts it it brakes down all the carbon.
Yeah this was just a plain b30. I have a built iron in the car now. Yeah Im familiar with building engines. Plastigauge is a nice tool.
I know your a Mechanic but It's such a critical step in building a motor I would mention it. It's important to show the people how to do it correctly. Also do a full balance of the pistons and Connecting rods and crank too. Maybe even port and polish the head too... I'm going to be making and built motor for my 2004 E60 530 SMG with similar numbers as your. I'm working on a 3.0L N52 stock 272hp for my 2010 E70 5X. I'm Interested in seeing the progress keep up the videos even if they are small and get some revenue from the channel to sub your projects. Keep up the great work sir the kids are watching ...
Hey man, great video. I got an E46 325xi that im building (slow, funds). Im planning on at least forged rods, pistons, thicker HG, head bolt studs, better cams, and an S54 mod for ITBs. I know its a lot, more of a life build. But just wanted to say that you channel is great helping me learn more about bmws so keep make great stuff man.
You should really consider a 330ci before dropping this much money into a 325, and xi... just my opinion!
@@axel9244 agreed. Just buy a b30 crank
I do agree on just getting a RWD E46 but it doesn’t matter if its a b30 or a b25…. After 10+psi you wont be able to tell the difference. Also b25 cranks don’t fail. Thats not the issue. But b30 cranks have horrible balance issues at high rpm. Thats why I don’t use one.
The xi's are great if you know how to work on them, it really is a good awd system. The whole m54b25 vs m54b30 is old news. Both are straight six, most parts are interchangeable, plus you can build a 54b25 to more reliable power over a m54b30. Id never ever get a CI or an E46 M3 for that matter.......sedan for life!
@@Breckjay08 well that's where you and I differ, I find the 4 wheel drive system nothing but a pain in the ass and never had a need for it, so I go rwd all the way. I have one of each (far from stock) a 325ci and a 330i touring, the ci's just handle a little better in my opinion and my touring is running the same suspension and anti roll bars etc pretty much as the ci, I find the touring a bit more tail happy, if I didn't have large dogs I might've got a saloon instead of the touring (we call sedans saloons here in the UK) but when you need the space you need the space, yes I upgrade my daily wagon as well my smaller track car because that's just what I'm like lol
Man I got so many questions for you.. your a bmw genius!!
New sub here. I have a 01 330i. Planning on boosting for drift. A nice mild 350hp to the wheels and I'll be happy. Doing research for that type of power output. Starting with slg oil pump and installing a oil chain tensioner. Drift Jesus recommends total seal rings so going that route. Love the videos keep em comin
Sounds like a good plan! Hit up Be Racing Tuning on Facebook and he can walk you through everything and tune you
@@hellrotgarage Thank you ! You should also show us hot to do the oil pump chain upgrade since you already have the enigne out! Would be great content even if you did not upgrade or replace the oil pump.
I've contacted total seal for gapless rings, they said "nono" to sum up that reply
@@iljakozlovskis3321 really!? I wonder why
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I would look at our gas ported top rings for that application. The gapless are great but those engines need a bit of blow-by to keep them dry. This is considering the engine using the stock pcv / breather system they can pull oil trough same. The gapless is to say to much of an improvement for them. The gas ported ring will get better ring seal but not so much as to allow it to have oil migration issues. The gapless are generally only an issue with stock breather systems so depending on how extensive the modifications are. Interesting is that you can combine the gapless and gas porting on the same part. But Unless it is a modified vent system I would go gas ported.
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Cool video man! Love to see something like this.
Still running my m54b30 stock tho and didnt plan on changing it xD
Thanks man
Great video, thanks for your time and keep them coming 👌👍 great information
Thanks man, glad to help!
Yo you deserve much more. Its gonna come keep up🙂😎
Thanks a ton man!
So saving up to turbo my E39 after this.
Awesome!
Awesome stuff. Keep it up so these views can pay for your future mods!
That would be sweet!
I've pulled the spare b30 out of my parts car to get the turbo goodies bolted to. Planning to reseal the whole motor and probably throw head studs in while I'm at it. Hearing you talk about the ring lands makes me want to gap the rings as well.
Definitely a good idea to gap rings.
damn that thing is quick!
It moves lol
Nice content bro, only bit of advice I would give you is turning down the music as it's way louder than you speaking
I didn’t realize that until a few people said something lol.
Idk if its his camera, but at 8:28 you can see the 2nd rod has an oval to it. Almost all of them do exept for #1.
Thanks for this video I’m gonna be replacing my head on my b25 if it looks worse cracked open I’ll b30 swap my xi
B30s are great but the oil rings suckk
Not bad at all, She for sure is a trooper! 🔥 Super impressive not going to lie! Was that 20psi on pump gas or E85 also?
Yes e85
@@hellrotgarage So damn nice man 🙌🏽
Strange place for the half shaft to break, it's usually in the middle. Common upgrade is 320d half shafts and cups. You can get 6-10mm spacers too if your car is lowered any.
I have the SLG Spacers and still explode them lol. Even oem axles.
Great vid dude! Ringland failure seems to be a common problem with boosted M54s as you mention it repeatedly. Is the stock ring gap the problem or are the pistons too weak?
The stock ring gap is too small
@@hellrotgarage Alright, thank you :) So you think with adequate ring gap these pistons are suitable for a boosted build? Planning on using them in an old M20 stroker engine with turbo but not sure yet if they are suitable durability wise...
@@peterm3861 m50 non vanos pistons would be the strongest ones i beleive, you can fit n54 pistons too
@@bas0puh Quite possibly, thanks buddy. Unfortunately I need a piston that is very short and only has very tiny valve pockets. I would need to have some cut for the two valve M20 engine anyways.
Every older piston than M54B30 is too tall for the stroke I am planning to run. N54 also has short pistons (and very cheap forged ones available) but they have some really deep valve pockets... It's not easy :(
Maybe I will try and ask one of the manufacturers of cheap forged N54 pistons if they could machine a set without valve pockets...
This content is great
Thanks!
Keep making content! But try to level your audio, can’t hear what you’re saying so i turn it up way loud but then the music comes on super loud on the timelapse. Boost the audio when you’re talking 👍🏻
Thanks man. Im not even going to use music anymore because it was supposed to be non copyright but I still got a claim.
#3 had a chunk of ringland missing @6:30
Soo in theory my stock e39 530i should take 15psi with no problems ? Btw your e46 look awesome :D
Make sure your on e85 and yes!
Then I guess 15 psi it is for now thank you 👍
No problem
Also naming your tool sizes for which bolts. Someone who's breaking down the motor could use this as a tutorial.
Now you have one more new sub ;)
Thanks!
What was you mpg when on e85
Can a m54b30 block with forged internals handle 30 psi? N54 can. Should the m54 being semi closed deck be stronger than the open deck n54????
How much boost would you recommend for a completely stock 330i E46, same motor but 177k miles on it. I’d love to give it some but idk what would be a good starting point without trying to both be either too crazy or risk breaking expensive shit lol
Thank you very much for the video. You didn't use a decompression plate?
No decomposition plate
@@hellrotgarage oh ok. I'm considering k64 stage 2 kit, they supply to fit a decompression plate to achieve roughly 8.5 to 1 compression to achieve 500bhp and 600ft lb torque, stage one has no decompression plate which achieves about 350bhp. I assume its "safer" to boost when you have more room in the combustion chamber with lower compression ratio?
A+
Thanks man
Hope It's all the same with m54b22
Bro i have the m52tub28 daily car, should i boost the car? Is it going to brake? Just 0,5 bar
GERMAN engineering!
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wtf are you talking xD Great content !
Thanks lol
Can you provide links or where you bought the stands too put the engine on and what you used too take it out? I'd like too invest in tools before I start working on my bmw so its a lot easier
They are actually at Harbor Freight. They work fine and affordable
How much power did it make and what turbo?
Yeah if you blow a rod ,,, that’s pretty much game over ,,,, you should forge everything thing first ,,,, but you can do it with just a thicker gasket for lowering compression but eventually everything is gonna blow up up I’m just trying to figure out which will go dirt tranny or engine lol 😂
Hey man, how would you think maybe 5-6 psi would be for stock engine. It’s annoying me so much when I go to the racetrack and pass a fast car in the corners but then they just go right by in the straights.
With a good tune and a healy engine it can safely and relaiably hold 10-12psi no problm
it looks to me that u had water inside the combustion chambers beacause the pistons are really clean. and that might cause the scratches on the rod bearings
No water. I ran e85 which cleans well.
...I bet you have the axles fixed already. I just wanted to mention my M3Touring Wagon snaps axles like potato chips. I went to FCP Euro for their axles with the understanding "only" BMW axles were good. Not true FCP Euro axles are less than manufacturer and have held well with the AWD system. Most guys running 400+ hp use the following axles......ehem. Come on guys tell him the good ones he needs them! #RDM3Touring
My axles have been a pain. I use oem 330xi auto axles currently. But they probably arnt going to make it.
those bearings look wrecked to be honest. you can see where they are starting to "squish" i dont think you would of made it another 10-20k @20 psi.
we won't know but in my experience those bearings were on their way out
Ive got an E36 M52B28 GT3582R Link Ecu setup. im shooting for 600whp very very soon just waiting on weather to clear up so i can throw the new fuel system in. and im changing from a GT3582R to a G30-770.
Do you have any tips about building one of these engines?? Or know the difference between the 2.8 and 3.0 or your personal preference
When it comes to boost 323-330 engine doesn’t really matter. Were talking like 30hp difference. Just make sure you secure the oil pump nut and gap the rings if you are boosting on stock pistons. E85 is key for high power.
What’s the max boost you would run on pump gas in order to have the fastest reliable m54b30 possible?
10psi For reliable. You could do 12 PSI on pump gas but it will not be as reliable as 10 pounds. Lots of people have proven now that 10 pounds is a safe area. I say if you’re trying to keep it safe if you go over 10 pounds to switch to e85
Hey man! I’m currently looking into buying a kit for my m54 but I’m torn between going for a budget eBay kit or going for a better kit. I’ve heard if I go with an eBay kit upgraded oil lines is a must. But is there any pointers you think would be helpful? Im probably going to open her up and do a head gasket so maybe something else I should look at doing while she’s open? Thanks a ton!!
How’s your car going? Still got it?
Hey what injectors and fuel pump did you use to run E85? heheheeeee! (Birdman Hand rub)😎 🙏🏾
1150cc Bosch injectors and you can use a walbro hellcat pump
@@hellrotgarage hell yeah bro, thanks a lot. I have the M54B30 in my Z3 and I can't wait to boost it 💪🏽😎🔥 💯
Awesome content! Keep ‘em going! What tune and kind of turbo and size are you running?
Tuned by BeRacingTuning and turbo is a gt3584 1.06AR
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I'll be running an M56 valve cover on my M54B30 with M50 manifold and going boost
Do it!
Stock ECU still? What supporting mods do you have? Is the AC deleted?
No ac. Yes stock ecu. Check out my first video for more info
Unrelated question. Where did you get those rear arch extensions?
Hard Motorsports
Hey bro what do u think fully built m54b30 8:5:1 or 9:0:1 on pump gas ?
Ideally E85. I wouldn’t go lower than 9:0:1
How much boost do you think the m54 block could hold (with 8.5:1 compression ratio and forged-motor internals)?? Could it hold 25-30 psi???
there are other factors that play into it, like how efficiently your boost is being made and how efficiently the engine is breathing
2 years later, how much hp did you think it was producing?
0 now lol. Id say 500 so at least
@@hellrotgarage whats in it?
Have some peaple going 600whp on stock, and the Record is 800whp on stock internals
Yeah I was definitely making 600 on it. But yeah price could do 800 on studs and a headgasket
@@hellrotgarage nice car Men, im going to buy one here in Brazil, the 330i sedan is Very cheap here compared to e36 kkkk the e36 328i here is like 20k dólar kkkkk
What axles are you running I can’t find any for my 01 330i
I have oem 330xi axles now
how was the coolant lines and all the plastic.
All fine. I keep up on that kind of stuff.
What is the peak timing in your 20 psi ignition map tired of breaking rings
Im not the tunerrrrrr
@@hellrotgarage what's the scanner data say when you drive it
Upgrade your tail lights to working ones
What
i want to turbo charged my e46 on stock block what changes do i have to do 🤔🤔
Look for a kit or piece one together. Look on beracingtuning.com
How much can the bottom end handle
Hey what’s rear archers are you using ?
hardmotorsports
how many miles did you drive with the Turbo on it?
20k but most of it was in the 18psi range.
how much power did it make?
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How many miles were on the engine?
~120k
Subd, because m54
Thanks!
a question how much miles run it with 20psi
Well probably 20k but it had a head gasket replaced in there
Oh okay im Build a m54b25 in germany and no one build it Here i was the First One Then with german TÜV
do you have a good tuner you can recommend??? m54b30??
BeRacingTuning. Message him on Facebook!
What tune were you running with this engine at 20 psi?
Be Racing tuning. Message them on Facebook
what are the rims on the bmw e46?
M parallels
Question do you do your own tuning ? Are you running ms43?
Yes m43 and tuned by Be Racing
Thanks ! One more question. On your stock m54b30 did you ever have heavy smoking from the crankcase ? I’m on my second engine now. First one blew a piston and then started smoking heavy on the catch can. This second one just finished with fresh piston rings / rod bearings took it on a decent drive hit boost cut or clutch is slipping on high rpms anyway it’s smoking heavy again on the catch can and exhaust tool
What kind of oil did you run?
Hi did you use stock m54 pistons and rods ?
This engine was completely stock un touched.
So yes
Don't hate me but is this doable on an auto?
No. They wont live at all
How many miles did you have the car run on that setup?
Put about 15-20k on that engine probably
@@hellrotgarage Thanks. Seems that it held up well
How much horsepower?
Yeah!
is that the stock ms54 dme your using?
Stock ms43 ecu tuned by BeRacingTuning
Stock headbolts or did you use headstuds?
Yes. Stock headbolts.
@@hellrotgarage thanks for your reply, probably also the reason your coolant pressure went upwards. Headlift?
does this mean the n54 has a predecessor that can also take boost?
Look up some M50b25 builds…..
Was bearings new?
Nothing was new
@@hellrotgarage how much km had the engine?
Who tuned the car?
Be Racing Tuning! Let him know I sent you.
14psi the most for me
you're not going to surface the crank or anything prior to build?
Already have a built iron m52 engine in the car. Don’t care enough about these stock b30s to have a machine shop touch them haha. So nope.
@@hellrotgarage oh ok makes sense. Sick build dude!
I'm an easy guy. Ihear bmw i subscribe
Thanks!