This was the first time in 10 episodes that we didn't include the O**** word in the title 🤯 Ace will be interviewing players at Major 4. Everyone watching live, watching on RUclips, or listening, we appreciate you and leave any comments below! We read all of them 💜
So after a day of thinking… I’ve decided that Ace knows nothing about anything. Unfortunately, one day one of his dumb takes is gonna work out somehow, and then people won’t hear the end of it.
For the league to be viable long term you dont need investment and subsidies, you need profit. You need advertising, tv (stream) deals, ticket sales, merch sales, in game purchases, etc. The NFL doesnt rely on venture capitalists to run its league nor should the CDL
32 is a lot, but i agree that there should be a pipeline for amateur teams to play in tourneys. Like 2-4 teams from online 2K qualifiers or challenger cups
@@LegendaryfredoYour not supposed to care about every match as a viewer if those formats but it’s how players show they are good enough to get picked up by top teams or how they find other good players to team with for future tournaments
Sounds pretty obvious to me. Kenny wants stuff done a certain way with some structure when he is seeing the mistakes in vod. The others are going out doing whatever and leaving Kenny out to dry which is making him angry.
I also think the "quick" and ineffective "fix" is go rogue and go against the game plan and chall gunfights you shouldn't. This fake solution makes the player who does it stats look good and then they don't get blamed. Kenny is rightfully trying to get them to stick to a functioning plan and when they don't they all look stupid except the player who went rogue and stat padded
Why is there a team damage 15 second penalty in league matches it makes no sense. That exists in pubs because people troll and actually try to kill their teammates. No one would ever do that on purpose in league matches so it just shouldnt be there.
I used to like cloud nine back in the day . It will be cool for them to be back . But it's interesting that there taking over the place of new york subs This is also why I wish the league could just expand to like 18 teams or something make it a little more competitive so many talented players not enough teams
What do you mean? Everyones gripe this year with the league is that that bottom 6-8 teams are absolutely dog shit and to top heavy. Where are these great players who aren’t already on teams that would come in and be competitive and not be like LAG, Boston or MIN Rokkr at and why haven’t they already been picked up? I guess it would make the dogshit teams now less dogshit in comparison by adding more teams that aren’t good.
@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb fair enough but I for one think there is hidden talent in challengers and how could we know how good they'd be without giving them a chance? I agree that if we added 6 more teams at least five of them would be your Minnesotas or worse a Boston, but I think at least one would be like a nysl. Haggy always talking about Challenger's talent and as a side note we would have more rookies each year! Which would be massive because I love watching the rookies pop off and think a lot of other people do too.
I don't understand why zero keeps talking about the fact that evil geniuses had a "easy bracket " at world war II champs. If optic would have won one map they would have that exact same bracket and I'm sure no one will talk about how " easy the bracket was for them" also it's not too different from optics infinite warfare champs bracket.
You gotta keep the localization to keep fans you don’t know how many ppl I’ve seen in ranked with a ravens skin and it’s ONLY because their from that region
Only a 2 and a half hour show...I really look forward to these being 3.5-4 hours hours to get me through half my work day. Also you guys talking flops but not even mentioning Lynz is wild to me. Bro has done nothing since Major 1 and had so much hype around him
On Ravens, they have a 2-1 head to head over Legion (LAT has it over them). What happens if the very possible scenario of; Legion lose to Surge Legion win vs Boston Legion lose to NYSL Legion out in elimination rd 2 Ravens win vs LAG Ravens lose to Optic/LAT/Miami Ravens out in elimination rd 2 Don't they both get the same points but Ravens holds the 2-1 head to head over Legion? Ravens in, Legion out?
Boston and priestahh are the biggest flop. During rostermania, they had tons of hype when everyone thought slasher and priestahh were gonna be good and then they didn’t do anything. They dropped slasher and kept priestahh and just started losing losing losing
i bet snoopy wish he said hello to ace now that time.. guys had a hate boner on a kid the whole season cause his ego was bruised... now hes rubbed his insecurities on the other cod scene rejects on the show... Snoops reaction to the hate this year shows he a better man then all these boys!!
Boston as a whole gotta be the biggest flop this season right? I remember everyone in pre-season was saying they gonna be the 5th best team and could contend for championships lmao, going from that to now everyone considering them a free dub gotta be the biggest flop imo
Biggest CDL pro Flop this season has to be Asim unfortunately man fry’s in challengers and flops in CDL (could just be the teams he been in tho) In terms of DopeCheck Flop has to be Ace just for the simple reason Minnesota are ass and he stands by them too much cause of cousin cheese 😅
Optic is the Facebook/Meta of Cod. They made something that was great once a decade ago and have been coasting on that since. They have the money and clout to buy players and companies that are already great and once in a while they get a win like Instagram or Whats App but for the most part they’re too big and entitled to get the most out of the players that were performing on hungrier, scrappier teams and generally underperform their potential. And like Facebook, its fan base is mostly older millennials who want to relive the glory days lmao.
@@BreakingPointGG Exaaactly. They just find players that are already successful and buy them out never taking risks or building anything from scratch. NY took a risk on a young Paco straight from France and built around him with players that nobody thought were great like Skyz and Kis and Toronto started as an incubator with a 10 man roster and academy team and eventually turned into a juggernaut. Faze is Apple for sure because they hit it big with something that worked early on and just release a new slightly different version every year. Simp, Abezy and Cell are basically the iPhone and Arcitys/Slasher/Drazah are the new camera lmao.
@@BreakingPointGG 🤯 😂 Nailed it lmao NY had an insane peak last year and then a really quick fall off after making a change for a big name like Twitter with Elon and theres always a ton of drama at the org, so New York Subtweeters could work too lol.
After zero’s take about not playing other ppls good maps during online take I just can’t trust most of his takes. That is so wrong across all competitives games in the world.
@@OfficialVeKKEvery match would feel like shipment with 12 pros on the map. Each player having like 100 engagements in hard point. 😬 However....SnD 1v6? That'd be REAL NOICE 😏
As an optic fan I really wanna see carolina make it. Clayster is one of my favorite people in the cod scene and it would make me sad if he ain't there❤
Worst stint in the history of optic gaming makes me so sad bring our king back we might need him. I'm joking but for real something is up. Much love to you guys as usual thanks for another good episode and don't be afraid to cook optic harder. Im a fan of optic but they deserve to be criticized at the moment.
Appreciate the love and the comment, Zaine. The boys have always said that this year's OpTic team is the best OpTic team since the dynasty. No glaring weaknesses. I think real fans can see the potential and also feel that way. Still a lot of LAN COD left to play.
@@BreakingPointGG completely agree 👍 those folks calling for people to get dropped are on a stronger strain than I am😊 I still have faith in the boys 🙏
Optic get clowned by us fans cos we get all these promises ( your own fault if you believe them at this point) then we do something good and everything fallls apart and the team goes into denial, yeah it’s never been this bad before but optic have always been a team that wins and then falls off with the a exception of the dynasty,before and since the dynasty when ever they’ve won they always fall off big time
I'll tell you why the Dashy crash out is so lame. Dashy and the young Optic fanboys think that somehow you "own" someone by pointing out their "35 years old with a kid". Huh? Hope they all realize they'll be 35 soon enough as well. Of you think it's an insult to call someone old at 35 and mention they have a kid thrn you probably need you seek help. News flash kids, you're only here because your parents had a kid. Maybe someone should have told Dashys parents to not had him because having kids is lame or something? But here's the real problem with that type of attitude, you want to push about the people that bother to watch your lame esport because they're 30 something or have a kid? That's the play? I have a feeling they don't realize what the esports viewership is prominently made up of. Keep that attitude and watch the viewership really fall off a cliff.
Tbh don't see the big advantage for scrappy to go to Optic. Shotzzy is still very much ghe face of them. I also think that org actually has money issues. Don't see them paying more for another top guy. Scrap is also already getting the attention from Optic fans without going there. I also really don't think his goofy self would work with the Optic "content". Personally think he'd become annoying quick with that over exposer.
Buying out the subliners is insane the one of the few good teams we had in the cdl and now they are gone excited for c9 to be back just wish it could have been for some dogshit team like vegas instead of a good
But like you guys said THE NYSL team isn’t going anywhere so isn’t C9 basically gonna add another team with the c9 branding and logos and shit? Or there’s just gonna change everything in NYSL?
guys, as an optic fan can you please just ignore the faded takes by the extremist Optic fans in the live chat. They are embarrassing, dont give them the satisfaction of letting them annoy you. Just annoying seeing you guys constantly talk about Optic fans, focus on the org not the fans.
This was the first time in 10 episodes that we didn't include the O**** word in the title 🤯
Ace will be interviewing players at Major 4. Everyone watching live, watching on RUclips, or listening, we appreciate you and leave any comments below! We read all of them 💜
And at the point when optic is the biggest talking point🤣
@@ewan503the Lord works in mysterious ways 🙏
@@BreakingPointGG 🤣
New York CloudNiners
Might have a nice ring to it...
holy shit this episode isn’t 3 hours is the world ending??
We told the guys "look, there is currently a global yap shortage. We need to save some yaps for the Major."
@@BreakingPointGG need a 4 hour banger in honor of major 4
Pre-shows every day + watch parties + player interviews from Ace. Let's go!!
Zer0 had the faded take on what a flop is but also had the best shout with snoopy lol gotta love it
TreiBoiCarti giveth, and TreiBoiCarti taketh.
No cheese on this podcast, straight gunny in the predictions
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO C9
Damn this guy was fast with the avi
that’s dope, a true c9 supporter right there
Listening to Mr Yap as I fall asleep… wouldn’t have it any other way
So after a day of thinking… I’ve decided that Ace knows nothing about anything. Unfortunately, one day one of his dumb takes is gonna work out somehow, and then people won’t hear the end of it.
For the league to be viable long term you dont need investment and subsidies, you need profit. You need advertising, tv (stream) deals, ticket sales, merch sales, in game purchases, etc. The NFL doesnt rely on venture capitalists to run its league nor should the CDL
Nah we want the 3 hours son lmaooo
can u guys pls do a dope check awards show? the flank used to do it but stopped, you guys could make some creative awards
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ace is the assumption king for impressions 😂😂
Ace is love, Ace is life
We need 32 team majors, 16 partnered teams and 16x amatuer online qualified teams
Anything close is a good start & stepping in that direction is a W✅
That’s way too many, people wouldn’t care about that many matches. We definitely need more but that’s excessive
32 is a lot, but i agree that there should be a pipeline for amateur teams to play in tourneys. Like 2-4 teams from online 2K qualifiers or challenger cups
@@LegendaryfredoYour not supposed to care about every match as a viewer if those formats but it’s how players show they are good enough to get picked up by top teams or how they find other good players to team with for future tournaments
Damn Ace was really about to mindf××k all audio listeners by doing the bracket in "his mind" lol. Len in the chat.
rip
Big O hands down. He went from predator to prey last year to this year.
1:11:10 Bro was connected to the c9d servers and nearly timed out 😂
Me and zero has a personal connection
everybody does that stair glitch on 6star 😂😂
Sounds pretty obvious to me. Kenny wants stuff done a certain way with some structure when he is seeing the mistakes in vod. The others are going out doing whatever and leaving Kenny out to dry which is making him angry.
I also think the "quick" and ineffective "fix" is go rogue and go against the game plan and chall gunfights you shouldn't. This fake solution makes the player who does it stats look good and then they don't get blamed. Kenny is rightfully trying to get them to stick to a functioning plan and when they don't they all look stupid except the player who went rogue and stat padded
If they keep it a New York team I’m super happy WWW
Why is there a team damage 15 second penalty in league matches it makes no sense. That exists in pubs because people troll and actually try to kill their teammates. No one would ever do that on purpose in league matches so it just shouldnt be there.
Ace is so faded! Who cares about preds kd! Watch the mini map! No rotations! Not pushing with his team! He's never near a teammates!
I used to like cloud nine back in the day .
It will be cool for them to be back .
But it's interesting that there taking over the place of new york subs
This is also why I wish the league could just expand to like 18 teams or something make it a little more competitive so many talented players not enough teams
I couldn't agree more
What do you mean? Everyones gripe this year with the league is that that bottom 6-8 teams are absolutely dog shit and to top heavy. Where are these great players who aren’t already on teams that would come in and be competitive and not be like LAG, Boston or MIN Rokkr at and why haven’t they already been picked up? I guess it would make the dogshit teams now less dogshit in comparison by adding more teams that aren’t good.
@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb fair enough but I for one think there is hidden talent in challengers and how could we know how good they'd be without giving them a chance? I agree that if we added 6 more teams at least five of them would be your Minnesotas or worse a Boston, but I think at least one would be like a nysl. Haggy always talking about Challenger's talent and as a side note we would have more rookies each year! Which would be massive because I love watching the rookies pop off and think a lot of other people do too.
In ranked play all the red barrels are taken off highrise and the propane tanks don’t blow up
They are playing on the old patch so the rant about the cod devs doesn’t really make sense
I don't understand why zero keeps talking about the fact that evil geniuses had a "easy bracket " at world war II champs. If optic would have won one map they would have that exact same bracket and I'm sure no one will talk about how " easy the bracket was for them" also it's not too different from optics infinite warfare champs bracket.
As an optic fan, I’m thinking they go to major 4 and get insta rounded out of the tournament
A hard reset could be the best outcome for them for Champs x.com/GGBreakingPoint/status/1805369826741043305
You gotta keep the localization to keep fans you don’t know how many ppl I’ve seen in ranked with a ravens skin and it’s ONLY because their from that region
i don’t care when players die from the map explosions. they chose to keep high rise in the map pool. they could have voted it out.
Only a 2 and a half hour show...I really look forward to these being 3.5-4 hours hours to get me through half my work day.
Also you guys talking flops but not even mentioning Lynz is wild to me. Bro has done nothing since Major 1 and had so much hype around him
Sureeeeeee....... Rab will be "very annoyed" if Scrap went to optic lmao
Rab would be eatin' good on content, but I think he means in terms of having as many big brands on as many competitive teams as possible.
@@BreakingPointGG that man would be jumping for joy if Scrap went to optic tomorrow lol. That's his team 😂
Where can I find formals reaction to Kenny’s tweet?
Youll eat your words when OpTic win the whole thing.
Bro they better keep New York in the name I been a long term NYSL fan bro don’t screw me over
nah they gotta get rid of the city names models
Zer0 ur honestly my favorite but your take about what defines the biggest flop was a rare faded take from u
Respect to scrap for not wanting to join optic. He can definitely build a better roster under ultra or any other org he wants to be on
Idc if optic was on 100 ping and Boston was on 2 ping optic should have never lost that match. They better fix this bs asap
Wheres the intro soong? It is good
RUclips doesn't like it anymore :(
We'll figure it out for next week
Hundreds of Millions? You okay bro? Ain’t no body spending that type of money. At 7:45 if anyone is interested.
They must be smoking that pine park cause that bracket was dog shit!!! 😂
Lolz something is wrong with the outro ?? 😂
On Ravens, they have a 2-1 head to head over Legion (LAT has it over them). What happens if the very possible scenario of;
Legion lose to Surge
Legion win vs Boston
Legion lose to NYSL
Legion out in elimination rd 2
Ravens win vs LAG
Ravens lose to Optic/LAT/Miami
Ravens out in elimination rd 2
Don't they both get the same points but Ravens holds the 2-1 head to head over Legion? Ravens in, Legion out?
Boston and priestahh are the biggest flop. During rostermania, they had tons of hype when everyone thought slasher and priestahh were gonna be good and then they didn’t do anything. They dropped slasher and kept priestahh and just started losing losing losing
i bet snoopy wish he said hello to ace now that time.. guys had a hate boner on a kid the whole season cause his ego was bruised... now hes rubbed his insecurities on the other cod scene rejects on the show... Snoops reaction to the hate this year shows he a better man then all these boys!!
Ravens are going out with a whimper and no champs with no fans because they bottled hosting the event
Boston as a whole gotta be the biggest flop this season right? I remember everyone in pre-season was saying they gonna be the 5th best team and could contend for championships lmao, going from that to now everyone considering them a free dub gotta be the biggest flop imo
Biggest CDL pro Flop this season has to be Asim unfortunately man fry’s in challengers and flops in CDL (could just be the teams he been in tho)
In terms of DopeCheck Flop has to be Ace just for the simple reason Minnesota are ass and he stands by them too much cause of cousin cheese 😅
Cloud9 buying NYSL just so they can have Skyz on their roster. Galaxy brain play from them
OpTic making Sunday at the least both the last two tourneys. Not worried one bit.
Real fans know we good
Let’s see how this ages
Optic is the Facebook/Meta of Cod. They made something that was great once a decade ago and have been coasting on that since. They have the money and clout to buy players and companies that are already great and once in a while they get a win like Instagram or Whats App but for the most part they’re too big and entitled to get the most out of the players that were performing on hungrier, scrappier teams and generally underperform their potential. And like Facebook, its fan base is mostly older millennials who want to relive the glory days lmao.
Never thought we would see a big tech analogy in the comments. So you're saying Pred is Instagram and Kenny is WhatsApp?
@@BreakingPointGG Exaaactly. They just find players that are already successful and buy them out never taking risks or building anything from scratch. NY took a risk on a young Paco straight from France and built around him with players that nobody thought were great like Skyz and Kis and Toronto started as an incubator with a 10 man roster and academy team and eventually turned into a juggernaut. Faze is Apple for sure because they hit it big with something that worked early on and just release a new slightly different version every year. Simp, Abezy and Cell are basically the iPhone and Arcitys/Slasher/Drazah are the new camera lmao.
New York Snapchat-Liners
The Toronto TikToks
@@BreakingPointGG 🤯 😂 Nailed it lmao
NY had an insane peak last year and then a really quick fall off after making a change for a big name like Twitter with Elon and theres always a ton of drama at the org, so New York Subtweeters could work too lol.
I don’t think and 8s is affecting their snd they were playing that shit when they won the major as well
OpTic hate gets a free dislike click 😂
It wasn't hate... :(
The starting roster for seattle surge this year was a pretty big flop. Glad ti see they've turned it around for hukes sake.
only cause arcitys is trash and they had abuzah on smg 😂😂
@@b3to653 and because illey couldn't help himself from getting absolutely off his nut before a match🤦♂️ abuzah on smg was criminal tho
@@b3to653 and because illey couldn't help himself from getting absolutely off his nut before a match🤦♂️ abuzah on smg was criminal tho
After zero’s take about not playing other ppls good maps during online take I just can’t trust most of his takes. That is so wrong across all competitives games in the world.
Lowkey, I like the NYSL brand more than C9. As an old head C9 is a mid org in my mind.
Not OpTic fan here :)
I liked the 5v5 6v6 eras more spots for more pros I loved to watch it
6v6?!!!
@@mkwsoxfan 😂😂 would be interesting
@@OfficialVeKKEvery match would feel like shipment with 12 pros on the map. Each player having like 100 engagements in hard point. 😬 However....SnD 1v6? That'd be REAL NOICE 😏
Give me the Saudi Fighting Falcons absolutely in the league fuck LAG only thing good about them is the intro
JP: We had one bad week of scrims and then this week was a decent week of scrims.
Trei: hoW ArE tHEy frYinG iN sCRimS iF EveRYoNE elSE iS toO
Incredible how the two teams I decided to support at the start of this season are probably not making champs (Rokkr Ravens) 😂
It's not chalked... yet. 1 more chance on LAN to do the thing!!!
Carolina has a shot, but I truly think Rokkr are chalked 😅 MFs need Slasher
As an optic fan I really wanna see carolina make it. Clayster is one of my favorite people in the cod scene and it would make me sad if he ain't there❤
@@BreakingPointGGyeah go ROKKR WOO BABY
Worst stint in the history of optic gaming makes me so sad bring our king back we might need him. I'm joking but for real something is up. Much love to you guys as usual thanks for another good episode and don't be afraid to cook optic harder. Im a fan of optic but they deserve to be criticized at the moment.
Appreciate the love and the comment, Zaine. The boys have always said that this year's OpTic team is the best OpTic team since the dynasty. No glaring weaknesses. I think real fans can see the potential and also feel that way. Still a lot of LAN COD left to play.
Long live the king
@@BreakingPointGG completely agree 👍 those folks calling for people to get dropped are on a stronger strain than I am😊 I still have faith in the boys 🙏
Snoopy>t12 slasher
Optic get clowned by us fans cos we get all these promises ( your own fault if you believe them at this point) then we do something good and everything fallls apart and the team goes into denial, yeah it’s never been this bad before but optic have always been a team that wins and then falls off with the a exception of the dynasty,before and since the dynasty when ever they’ve won they always fall off big time
No optic in the title less views
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Booooooo the Podcast is 20mins shy of 3 hours this week, not hitting the 3hr mark isn’t good enough booooooo🙅🏻♂️🤷🏼♂️🤣
Manning, you must have heard about the global yap shortage. We need conserve some yaps for Major 4. Peace and love ✌️
I'll tell you why the Dashy crash out is so lame. Dashy and the young Optic fanboys think that somehow you "own" someone by pointing out their "35 years old with a kid". Huh? Hope they all realize they'll be 35 soon enough as well. Of you think it's an insult to call someone old at 35 and mention they have a kid thrn you probably need you seek help. News flash kids, you're only here because your parents had a kid. Maybe someone should have told Dashys parents to not had him because having kids is lame or something? But here's the real problem with that type of attitude, you want to push about the people that bother to watch your lame esport because they're 30 something or have a kid? That's the play? I have a feeling they don't realize what the esports viewership is prominently made up of. Keep that attitude and watch the viewership really fall off a cliff.
No ones cares brother move along
why is the 35 yo old man with a whole child bitching on twitter... go take care of kid 😂😂
Snoopy is the biggest flop we thought he was the next shotzzy
Tbh don't see the big advantage for scrappy to go to Optic. Shotzzy is still very much ghe face of them. I also think that org actually has money issues. Don't see them paying more for another top guy. Scrap is also already getting the attention from Optic fans without going there. I also really don't think his goofy self would work with the Optic "content". Personally think he'd become annoying quick with that over exposer.
ultra is the org with money issues 😂
Goats
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Buying out the subliners is insane the one of the few good teams we had in the cdl and now they are gone excited for c9 to be back just wish it could have been for some dogshit team like vegas instead of a good
Having NYSL stay and C9 take over LAG/Vegas would have been nice
But like you guys said THE NYSL team isn’t going anywhere so isn’t C9 basically gonna add another team with the c9 branding and logos and shit? Or there’s just gonna change everything in NYSL?
Like Rab said, it's likely that both ROKKR and NYSL get replaced by G2 and C9 branding over time.
Biggest flops, Alec, owakening or illey
Illley got benched by his team not by his own accord
Illey definitely not a flop
How are yous not seeing illey as a flop? Dude looked incredible at the start of the year only to get himself benched by his own actions.
@@ewan503 he got benched for out of game shit. Dude was frying
@Dinkdonk436 he was benched because he was absolutely off his nut during a match, that's certainly in game shit bruh.
guys, as an optic fan can you please just ignore the faded takes by the extremist Optic fans in the live chat. They are embarrassing, dont give them the satisfaction of letting them annoy you. Just annoying seeing you guys constantly talk about Optic fans, focus on the org not the fans.
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Ravens are going out with a whimper and no champs with no fans because they bottled hosting the event