That's his half ass writers. Duel Logs can not tell a joke that's rehashed from other people and knows nothing about the anime. These days he just reads a script Also his writers have been caught being 5Ds fan boys as shown in multiple videos.
something that is insane about tea using fire sorcerer. in her duel the card tea banished for the effect was pot of greed, so she not only went -1 to deal 800 burn, she went -2 for not using pot of greed
Its funny cause Tgc anime Just made this duel and i lost my mind went Tea discarded Pot of creed for 800 hundred damages... and later on discarded disgracefull charity... I get we dont know whatsapp pog do but Come on charity too?
TGS anime, funnily enough, just covered the Tea vs Krump duel. Not only did she discard POG for Fire Sorceror, she ALSO drew Graceful Charity and NEVER uses it.
Imagining a flip repeat strategy with creature swap to give an adversary the fire sorcerer and then flip it back down with book of moon so they drop their hand
Way back, I had a guy on a tournament use fire sorcerers with creature swaps and book of moons to decimate my hand. It was such a gimmick but incredibly silly.
I had this thought as soon as he brought up the effect. It would be so easy to wreck a player with it combined with something like Ghostrick cards that let you repeatedly flip cards.
Anyone who legit attempts what I call a "Flying elephant strat" gets respect in my book. It's easy to forget Yugioh doesn't always have to be so serious. Sometimes you just want to run Crazy box or try for that 1 in 100 game where you win with an unreliable burn strategy against a semi-serious player. XD That said the only time I DON"T like that is when the win condition of the game involves litereally NOT playing the game, just flipping a coin and if heads, you win, if tails, you lose, but that's kind of what modern meta decks have turned into, I shouldn't have to be lucky enough to draw Ash to beat Tears just cause my opponent is playing Tears.
I'd rather lose to Tears than Kashtira. At least Tears lets you attempt to play. Kashtira just says "Oh. I went first. You no longer get to use any zones."
So, Fire Sorcerer is about to have an unintended use case with the new Mimighoul cards; with Mimighoul Maker, you could special summon Flip Monsters like Fire Sorcerer or Cyber Jar onto your opponent's field face-down, and then flip them up with your own Mimighouls. Fire Sorcerer's effect of "remove two random cards from your hand, do 800 LP damage" then becomes "HANDRIP TWO CARDS FROM YOUR OPPONENT'S HAND, BANISH THEM, then take 800 burn damage". Granted, that play hinges on your opponent picking Fire Sorcerer to be summoned, but it's marginally more useful than it's been before.
I'm not familiar with the archtype, but you can probably remove the hinge by simply making it so your opponent doesn't have anything else to pick, assuming it is summoned from your GY or banished.
Ultimate Obedient Fiend, during its time, had some niche uses. I used toon decks in the videogames, and I never used Manga Ryu (even in the early days). Blue Eyes is objectively a better toon 99% of the time.
Sometimes seeing the reason your favorite cards aren't good allows you to think extra hard on how to get around your favorite's weaknesses. making for more interesting deckbuilding. It's arguably MORE fun to figure out how to make a terrible card work in a strategy and then actually pulling it off. Just like that tourney player who put Gate Guardian in his deck despite no way to summon it JUST to make a point about how much people forget deck building is more than just reading a deck list online that topped tournaments and copying that.
What’s funny is Fire Sorcerer might be seeing some gimmicky play as a brick in Gimmighoul. As they have a card capable of placing a flip monster on your opponent’s field, and then they can flip her.
I remember seeing a true mad lad way back in the day at my Locals who got "Ultimate Obedient Fiend" to the field with a "Flame Ruler", and equipped him with an "Axe of Fools" to attack for game over a 3600 ATK "Gren Maju". I'd never even heard of UOF before that, but that was crazy!
Yeah more recent, there's also more discussion on how to make the most of a bad card instead of dismissing it because "It won't win top tournaments" as the only reason the card is unplayable. I guess I'm not the only one who didn't like when a card was on a worst of list because "It can't beat Tears" or "Zoodiacs are better" logic.
You hit the nail on the head with the Koitsu, Aitsu, Soitsu, and Doitsu translations. No wonder they never tried to localize them because they're essentially just Japanese puns 😂
Sigh I must ave been the most unluckiest guy to ever open packs of magic ruler coz I only got painful choice invader of the throne and ten manga ryu rans
Correction: Blaze of Destruction was part of the _second_ pair of Structure Decks, alongside Fury of the Deep. Dragon's Roar and Zombie Madness were the first pair.
I remember how fcking bad the SD03 is. One of my friends used it, my other friend used SD04. They fought and of course SD03 was annihilated and we just thought maybe it was due to the element matchup of the deck, Water deck's strategies defeats Fire. At that time I was using SD07 so we dueled and he still got fcking destroyed despite my deck being so defensive. We kept wondering why something that burns Earth could lose to it. In the end we all decided SD03 was trash and he just stuck with his old SD02 instead which for him is a lot stronger and faster.
I usually dislike that you take cards off the list if theyve shown up in other videos, but i totally understand it So i extra like that you include them in the Honorable mentions spot, please continue doing that!
Make a “failed cards, etc.” video on naturia please! Also, how about a “top 10 cards NEVER restricted in any way, but were widely considered to be hit on a banlist” (ex. Dante)
0:26 Idea to make Dicelops better by leaning into the dice angle: _The Destroyer Dicelops_ (FIRE) Level 4 Machine/Tuner/Effect _If an effect that requires a Die Roll is activated, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand or GY). Gains ATK equal to the results of any Die Roll Results X100. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can roll a six-sided die, then apply the result._ _● 1-2: Look at your opponent's hand, also discard 1 card from their hand._ _● 3-4: Both players reveal their hand, then Discard 1 card._ _● 5-6 Reveal your entire hand, then discard 1 card._ ATK/1800 DEF/200
@@ManuelRiccobono Listen, I’m having my fun as I’ve been having it since forever at this point, and either way you can’t tell me this ISN’T a better version of the current Dicelops… It’s a higher level Tuner with above average ATK stats and can be used with “Rekindling”, has a built in non-OPT special summon that another copy of itself (or ANY dice related effect for that matter) can trigger, improved die roll effects that are more beneficial to you and less self-detrimental, and can gain moderate amounts of ATK, either through it’s own dice rolling or other such effects.
@@rikosakurauchi7161 Hmm… I mean wouldn’t that limit the card to such cards that need to be on the field (Monsters, field spells, Pendulum Monsters in the Pendulum Zone and Continuous Spells/Traps)? And also, I WOULD need to put in a hard OPT, or at least a cost like discarding a card or paying LP. The idea with the current effect is to provide you multiple incentives to actually USE those Die rolling effects (The potential for multiple special summons AND an ATK boost that can stack up faster than your opponent can handle), and mitigating the inherent risk/rewards of most such cards by making itself a reward in it’s own right.
As a kid I put fire sorcerer in my deck, and it won me a duel once. Because of that I just kept it in my deck and I even put in Lady assailant of the flames and that also won me a duel once, and I didn't take it out until the 5ds era. Then Cowboy came out and I actually started to run a good burn card.
22:58 Idea to improve this card by playing into the “Incinerator” part: _The Infernal Incinerator_ (FIRE) Level 6 Fiend/Effect _Requires a Tribute with 2000 or more total ATK/DEF to Normal Summon/Set. Can be Special Summoned (From your hand) by discarding all other cards from your hand (Quick Effect). Gains 500 ATK for every card that is sent to the GY or banished. Once per turn Quick Effect), You can decrease this card’s ATK: Decrease the ATK/DEF of 1 monster your opponent controls by an equal amount, and if it’s ATK or DEF has been reduced to 0 as a result, destroy it._ ATK/2800 DEF/1800
16:30 Impressive that you mentioned the anime duel Tea had and not mentioning her effect was used by banishing POT OF GREED AND GRACEFUL CHARITY! That has to be one of the most outrageous 0 IQ plays you can ever do in a duel
Even more annoying is if it were JOEY doing that, other characters would've told him "you idiot! YOu could've played that and got an extra card!" and it'd be a great learning experience, literally the point of Joey's character being so bad at the game, to help teach how to play. There was no reason for the writers to have her banish free advantage like that. they could've made it ANY other card so she'd look more compentent, especially since her winning play was an absolute genius move, summoning the Dark Magician token to close out the game.
14:09 Idea to make this card a better FLIP monster with other effects that supplement your FIRE deck: _Fire Magician_ (FIRE) Level 4 Spellcaster/Flip/Tuner/Effect _FLIP: Set, Add to your hand, send to your GY, or Banish 1 card that mentions “FIRE” in its text from your hand, deck, Field, GY or Banishment._ _You can increase or decrease this card’s level by 1 for each card that is Banished. You can banish 2 other cards from your hand or field (Quick Effect): Apply 1 of the following effects._ _⚪️Inflict 800 damage to your opponent, Then increase the ATK of all FIRE monsters you control by 800._ _⚪️Special Summon 1 Level/Rank/Link 2 or lower FIRE monster form your hand, GY or Banishment, but banish it facedown during the End Phase of this turn._ _⚪️During the Main Phase of this turn, you can Normal Summon 1 FIRE monster (in addition to your Normal Summon/Set if it’s your turn.)_ ATK/1500 DEF/200
Would love to see another characters important cards video I would love to see one with Tyranno Hasselberry since dinosaurs are my favorite archetype in yugioh.
aitsu managed to top a tournament in duel links once...with invoked...back when 12 traps, invoked engine and some fire monster would be called a solid deck
I actually have an Infernal Flame Emperor lying in my basement somewhere, probably from that original structure deck, which is the only physical Yugioh product I own. I've looked at it quite a few times but this is the first time I've ever actually read what it does.
Fire Sorcerer was also used by the duel spirit of the Dark Magician Girl against Jaden in Yugioh GX, she banished her own DMG and a Magician’s Valkyria, which she would later bring back to the field with Dimension Fusion.
I think there might actually be a niche use for Fire Sorcerer in today's metagame. Not necessarily a FIRE strategy, but a strategy that revolves around banishing cards, and retrieving said cards back
The fact that it's random means unless you can specifically get rid of your entire hand other than the 2 cards you want to banish, it's never going to be consistent. I just don't see it working.
🔥This FIRE video reminded me of a FIRE Ritual monster and accompanied Spell I had come up with some time ago… A sort of Religious/Mythology themed monster with a dash of Science Fantasy, that revolved around a sort of “dance” with it’s effects: _Sun-Dance Shiva_ (FIRE) Level 1 Pyro/Ritual/Tuner/Effect _You can Ritual Summon this card with “Sun-Dance Celebration!”. Gains 200 original ATK X its original level, and can make additional attacks per battle phase X half its original level. Your opponent cannot target other monsters you control for attacks or monster effects. Once while this ritual summoned card is face-up on the field (Quick Effect), You can Inflict damage to your opponent equal to this card’s original level X100. Once per turn (Quick Effect), you can discard 1 card: Add 1 “Sun-Dance Celebration!” to your Hand from your Deck or GY. If this card would be banished after you’ve first Ritual Summoned a “Sun-Dance” Ritual Monster this duel: Add it and/or 1 “Sun Dance” Spell/Trap from your field, deck or GY to your hand instead._ ATK/0 DEF/200 _Sun-Dance Celebration!_ Ritual Spell _This card can be used to Ritual Summon (from your hand or GY) any number of “Sun-Dance Shiva” and/or other FIRE Ritual Monsters from your hand or GY. You must also Banish monsters from your hand, field and/or GY whose total Levels/Ranks/Links equal or exceed the Level(s) of those Ritual Monsters you Ritual Summon, and if you do, you can immediately increase and/or decrease the original levels of each of those Ritual Summoned monsters by up to the combined Levels/Ranks/Links of those banished monsters (Max. 15). Monsters Ritual Summoned by this card gain the following effect while on the field._ _⚪️The first time this card would be destroyed by battle or card effect each turn, it is not destroyed._
Please let this be a new series. Would be fun to see the worst for the other attributes. Series of lists for the best for each attribute would be nice too
Wait, how did you manage to say "Gradius" differently - think you said it correctly first time? Jokes aside, I actually liked this video - never knew some of the backstory or facts about em, nicely done Mr Logs!
i like when Mr. Logs shows a bit of personality, it reminds me that he's a human. I always thought he was something like that Sam from windows Micosoft narrative voice thing back in 2004 lol
I was literally just thinking about Dicelops "it doesn't seem too bad, ignoring it's effect you've still got an 1800 level 4 monstet with 200 def that can be a target for rekindling" only for Duel Logs to call out those making that argument. Granted, Duel Logs in general avoids putting normal monsters as otherwise so many of those early ones would fill this list (the non-toon Ryu Ran, Flame Swordsman, etc) and there really isn't much to talk about them as it'd just be "not worth the cost to bring out" so obviously that does narrow down the pool of cards to choose from for worst lists.
Blaze of Destruction was the second pair of structure decks (with its water counterpart). The first pair gave us Vampire Genesis and Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon...
3:04 Idea to retrain Ryu here by making it a living Rekindling: _Toon Ryu-Ran_ (FIRE) Dragon/Toon/Effect _Requires FIRE Tributes to Normal Summon/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand or GY) by Tributing 2 cards you control, while you control "Toon World". Cannot attack the turn it is Special Summoned. While you control this face-up card, All Toon and “Toon” monsters in your GY are also treated as FIRE-attribute, and their DEF while in the GY becomes 200. While you control “Toon World”, You can discard 1 card (Quick-Effect): Special Summon from your GY as many FIRE Toon or “Toon” monsters as possible with 200 DEF, but banish them during the End Phase of this turn. While you control "Toon World" and your opponent controls no Toon monsters, this card can attack directly._ ATK/2600 DEF/200
so fun story about infernal flame emperor: back in college (around 2012 or so) i was having a for funsies match of my fire pile deck against a buddy's water pile. he had gravity bind active and we both had full fields of level 4+ monsters, so we were deadlocked for about 4-5 turns or so until i drew our boy at 4th worst and he couldn't stop my summon so gravity bind obviously ended and i swung for game. he definitely sucks but i just thought i'd share the fact that yes there was in fact one time across all permutations of casual/competitive play throughout the game's entire 26 year history where someone could actually say "infernal flame emperor won the game for me"
I'll admit that I honestly like Ultimate Obedient Fiend, but it could still have some use in a deck where you have options that allow you to choose your opponent's battle targets, especially if you play something that forces your opponent to attack when able with their Attack Position monsters. For decks that like the Battle Phase for one reason or another (like most of what I use in Master Duel), it can be pretty intimidating to enter the Battle Phase staring down the barrel of a 3500 ATK beat stick your opponent can just decide to be the target of your monster's attacks.
Wait, is Tri-headed dust dragon's zone lock effect not once per turn? ...the crazy part of me wants to try using it to setup a full zone lock, considering that this card is 3 zones locked on its own, though I guess that would require putting two cards on the opponent's board somehow.
I could see some funny GOAT format shenanigans with Ultimate Obedient Fiend and final attack order, since it would be a big beatstick and would force your opponent to crash into it
Final Attack Orders only forces all your opponents monsters into attack position. It doesn't force an attack. Maybe you're combining it with Staunch Defender? That forces all your opponents monsters to attack a specific monster if possible.
10:40 I think it would be cool if heroes got a Double Fusion card, where you can fuse twice in a row. Either that or like, a spell that basically lets you use the first piece from the extra deck for a HERO monster specifically
Looking the card over, I think you could have mentioned Tri-Head Dust Dragon's effects are actually pretty unique. None of them have a once per turn at all. You could potentially make it a huge beatstick or even OTK against the right opponent. Similarly, it's board locking effect can be used on both monster or trap zones so even if you can't do a monster lock, maybe you could be cheeky and restrict spell zones enough that they might have to play into an Impermanence. It still isn't good, but I think it's more interesting than Manga Ryu-Ran.
That six makes it a 2/3 but also removes the possibility that a 6 will show up. So you never get the whole hand removal. Its a chance one of you drops a card and you're playing with the higher odds. It actually works really well in my nostalgic feeling decks.
Imagine a field spell that lets you both special summon Aitsu or Soitsu from the hand or deck and add Doitstu or Koitsu to the hand and give them protection from card effects.
I got Aitsu as a kid, and he became a joke between me and my friends, and we would get super hyped whenever someone would get him out. Then my brother got Koitsu and they became an even bigger meme in my friend group. That's Aitsu and Koitsu's claim to fame, they're memes, and they were never meant to be good.
Hi Mr. Logs can you make a video of the hidden meaning of cards? I remember in a video you mentioned that Mai's Mirror Wall was to reflect how she puts an image towards others or something like that. Thanks for considering my request.
@@DarkSymphony777 Yeah, but even then there are better ways to deal comparable or greater burn damage, or otherwise better payoffs for banishing 2 cards. I’m thinking it would be fun to have her be retrained as a Flip/Effect with a FLIP effect AND an on-field effect. Maybe even make her a Flip Tuner or Pendulum so she benefits from a rather unique suite of support cards. Let me come up with something… _Fire Sorceress_ (FIRE) Level 4 Spellcaster/Flip/Tuner/Effect _FLIP: Add 1 Spell/Trap to your hand (From your Deck, GY or Banishment) that mentions “FIRE” in its text._ _Must be Normal Set (Cannot be Normal Summoned). You can banish 2 cards from your hand (Quick Effect): Apply 1 of the following effects, and if you do, inflict 800 Damage to your opponent._ _⚪️Increase the ATK of all Face-up FIRE monsters you control by 800._ _⚪️Special Summon 1 Level 2 or lower FIRE monster from your GY or Banishment, but Banish it Facedown during the end phase of this turn._ ATK/2300 DEF/200 THERE, I gave her a new FLIP effect to search out a FIRE focused Spell/Trap, then remade her old FLIP effect into something a smidge better, retaining her burn damage while also either buffing your FIRE monster’s ATK by 800 OR using her personal diet-“Rekindling” (using single Level 2 or less FIRE monsters instead of swaths of FIRE monsters with 200 DEF.)
These days, I don't find yugioh fun as it used to be, I just play it to use the monsters I like and don't care if it's effects harm me or hurt the enemy.
The elemental lords should have been an extra deck part of the elementsaber archetype. The lords become fusion monsters requiring 5 of their respective attribute but there would be an elementsaber spell card that would summon them ignoring their summoning conditions by having exactly 5 of that attribute in your GY.
In the Good Ol Days, I had Infernal Incinerator and Ultimate Obedient Fiend in my collection. Somehow, I managed to make them work, but it wasn't easy, considering how hard you have to work to make them playable. Ultimately, it's not really worth the effort. But tbh, I liked the cards a lot because they were really cool-looking.
I dont duel duke, but i did give him a diceclops in my cpu tournaments on masterduel, manga ryu does suck, never heard of tri-head, Shining enforcer is meh, fire sorcerer is bad i did not even give it to Tea, Pyro rex and the other elemental lords i do plan to give to people in my tournament. Inferno flame lord i am either giving to axel or his father in my tournaments, but neither have appeared yet. Infernal incinerator is in Evan a npc video game characters deck. i assume he will lose but i wanted to represent that chazz deck but didnt want to give it to him. Ult obedient i do not know how to set up. Okay Last turn works, my tournaments do not fully care about ban list so anything is available. All mentions are in different characters decks and Aitsu i plan to use in a children themed npc in next weeks tournament.
26:58 Idea to make Heat here a better HERO fusion; _Elemental HERO Hyper-Heat_ Level 8 Warrior/Fusion/Effect "Elemental HERO Heat" + "Elemental HERO Lady Heat" _You can also Special Summon this card by tributing the above monsters you control (This is treated as a Fusion Summon). While face-up in the field, this card’s name is also treated as each of the above card’s. “HERO” Monsters you control gain 200 ATK/DEF for each “HERO” monster you control. If a “HERO” monster you control battles an opponent’s monster, it gains 1000 ATK/DEF during the damage step only. During each end phase, inflict 200 damage to your opponent for each Face-Up “HERO” monster you control._ ATK/2900 DEF/2200
I figured Shining Phoenix Enforcer would make this list. I really like this card and its counter part. I find it so stupid how so many OG hero fusions have that annoying can’t be special summoned in other ways lock
Dicelops actually saw use in my Duel Links Dark World deck when they added Grapha. It's actually pretty good there, all of its effects are beneficial to the strategy. Is it good? No. Do I like it? Yes absolutely.
With the mimighouls, fire sorcerer becomes a beast, if you pair with triple talent thrust you can make your opponent play with a hand of 3 in their turn
Yeah, I don’t care for monsters that can’t be special summoned by other means. That’s pretty much saying to you to not let the monster get destroyed by anything. Point blank.
To be fair to Shining Phoenix Enforcer, it doesn't have any restrictions on whether or not you can use substitution monsters. So King of the Swamp can be used in place of Phoenix enforcer, considerably cutting down on the resources need to make it. Also, remember that King of the Swamp is a fairly staple card of fusion decks anyway, since it can double as extra copies of Polymerization too, so particularly back in the day it's not like there's any special deck-building requirements to use it. However I do agree that that the card is kinda self defeating, being both unable to be destroyed by battle and having a lot of attack points, when Shining Flare Wingman does a better job of being a blowout card. I don't think it justifies being in the top 10 worst though.
The duel logs curse puts out a video and one of the cards he talks about becomes "playable". Fire Sorcerer might go crazy in mimighoul, although it probably won't be that good.
I'd like to think that fire sorcerer will see some niece play in the near future thanks the new mimighoul archetype allowing you to summon it to the opponents field
>Is named "Ultimate OBEDIENT Fiend"
>Will only attack when you meet all of his demands
He's not as obedient as he says, truly a fiend.
Also note he isn't immune to be taken control over by card effect.
So a worst Excalibur?
The mistake here is thinking the fiend is obedient. He's the ultimate fiend TO the obedient.
Wasnt he called forbidden?
I really like ths new style of adding jokes, more random information about each card, including anime appearances
The Mr. Logs from DuelLogs Duel Logs is starting to seep in here
That's his half ass writers.
Duel Logs can not tell a joke that's rehashed from other people and knows nothing about the anime.
These days he just reads a script
Also his writers have been caught being 5Ds fan boys as shown in multiple videos.
@@soukenmarufwt5224he has had many script writers for a very long time
@@soukenmarufwt5224 You do know that the 'writers' now are his Patrons, right?
@qty1315 I literally cannot even find a patreon under this name.
something that is insane about tea using fire sorcerer. in her duel the card tea banished for the effect was pot of greed, so she not only went -1 to deal 800 burn, she went -2 for not using pot of greed
In her defense, she had no idea what the card did, so it probably seemed expendable.
Its funny cause Tgc anime Just made this duel and i lost my mind went Tea discarded Pot of creed for 800 hundred damages... and later on discarded disgracefull charity...
I get we dont know whatsapp pog do but Come on charity too?
TGS anime, funnily enough, just covered the Tea vs Krump duel. Not only did she discard POG for Fire Sorceror, she ALSO drew Graceful Charity and NEVER uses it.
@@annemarieangue6727 let´s face it she went undefeated for a reason
Imagining a flip repeat strategy with creature swap to give an adversary the fire sorcerer and then flip it back down with book of moon so they drop their hand
Way back, I had a guy on a tournament use fire sorcerers with creature swaps and book of moons to decimate my hand. It was such a gimmick but incredibly silly.
I had this thought as soon as he brought up the effect. It would be so easy to wreck a player with it combined with something like Ghostrick cards that let you repeatedly flip cards.
Anyone who legit attempts what I call a "Flying elephant strat" gets respect in my book. It's easy to forget Yugioh doesn't always have to be so serious. Sometimes you just want to run Crazy box or try for that 1 in 100 game where you win with an unreliable burn strategy against a semi-serious player. XD
That said the only time I DON"T like that is when the win condition of the game involves litereally NOT playing the game, just flipping a coin and if heads, you win, if tails, you lose, but that's kind of what modern meta decks have turned into, I shouldn't have to be lucky enough to draw Ash to beat Tears just cause my opponent is playing Tears.
I'd rather lose to Tears than Kashtira. At least Tears lets you attempt to play. Kashtira just says "Oh. I went first. You no longer get to use any zones."
10-year-old me: THIS CARD IS SO GOOD!!!
30-year-old me watching this video: Oh, man, how much did my deck SUUUUUUUCK back in the day?!?!
Real😂😂
Damn that was me with Blue Eyes Shining Dragon back in the day 😂😂😂
Me when I had a deck with high level Dragon monsters to use to try and summon Five-Headed Dragon
@@IamJerf same, my deck is blue eyes now
So, Fire Sorcerer is about to have an unintended use case with the new Mimighoul cards; with Mimighoul Maker, you could special summon Flip Monsters like Fire Sorcerer or Cyber Jar onto your opponent's field face-down, and then flip them up with your own Mimighouls. Fire Sorcerer's effect of "remove two random cards from your hand, do 800 LP damage" then becomes "HANDRIP TWO CARDS FROM YOUR OPPONENT'S HAND, BANISH THEM, then take 800 burn damage".
Granted, that play hinges on your opponent picking Fire Sorcerer to be summoned, but it's marginally more useful than it's been before.
I'm not familiar with the archtype, but you can probably remove the hinge by simply making it so your opponent doesn't have anything else to pick, assuming it is summoned from your GY or banished.
Ultimate Obedient Fiend, during its time, had some niche uses. I used toon decks in the videogames, and I never used Manga Ryu (even in the early days). Blue Eyes is objectively a better toon 99% of the time.
Did anyone catch the mention of Skydiving Field (see 29:30):
"While this card is face-up on the field, all players must Duel while skydiving."
😂😂😂
Still better than the handshake spell card
I never realized the A-Team guys where Koitsu and his friends! Damn.
that new Mimighoul archetype might make Fire Princess a wee bit better lmao
Yep Like greenkappa and hiros shadowscout
Just went out a video exactly about that. It's INSANE how a bad card can be turned useful in the right strategy 🎉
WE HAND RIPPING FOR 2 WITH THIS ONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I love these "worst cards" videos, makes me realize how bad I was at this game as a kid
Sometimes seeing the reason your favorite cards aren't good allows you to think extra hard on how to get around your favorite's weaknesses. making for more interesting deckbuilding. It's arguably MORE fun to figure out how to make a terrible card work in a strategy and then actually pulling it off. Just like that tourney player who put Gate Guardian in his deck despite no way to summon it JUST to make a point about how much people forget deck building is more than just reading a deck list online that topped tournaments and copying that.
@@MarioMastar I had a bunch of monsters in my deck I couldn't summon. Trust me, I just sucked at it
I love the silly edits like this on top 10 videos.
Please keep them up Mr. Logs, I love you.
What’s funny is Fire Sorcerer might be seeing some gimmicky play as a brick in Gimmighoul. As they have a card capable of placing a flip monster on your opponent’s field, and then they can flip her.
"End a cartoon faster than 4Kids TV"
Me: Not possible!
I remember seeing a true mad lad way back in the day at my Locals who got "Ultimate Obedient Fiend" to the field with a "Flame Ruler", and equipped him with an "Axe of Fools" to attack for game over a 3600 ATK "Gren Maju".
I'd never even heard of UOF before that, but that was crazy!
Ayo wait were Duel Logs lists always this funny or is this a more recent thing??? Homie got SASSY we love to hear it
A more recent thing definitively. From what I understand, it's because of new Writer(s?) that make the Scripts for him.
Yeah more recent, there's also more discussion on how to make the most of a bad card instead of dismissing it because "It won't win top tournaments" as the only reason the card is unplayable. I guess I'm not the only one who didn't like when a card was on a worst of list because "It can't beat Tears" or "Zoodiacs are better" logic.
Fire Sorcerer with Mimighoul will be a great deck.
You hit the nail on the head with the Koitsu, Aitsu, Soitsu, and Doitsu translations. No wonder they never tried to localize them because they're essentially just Japanese puns 😂
Sigh I must ave been the most unluckiest guy to ever open packs of magic ruler coz I only got painful choice invader of the throne and ten manga ryu rans
Correction: Blaze of Destruction was part of the _second_ pair of Structure Decks, alongside Fury of the Deep. Dragon's Roar and Zombie Madness were the first pair.
I remember how fcking bad the SD03 is. One of my friends used it, my other friend used SD04. They fought and of course SD03 was annihilated and we just thought maybe it was due to the element matchup of the deck, Water deck's strategies defeats Fire. At that time I was using SD07 so we dueled and he still got fcking destroyed despite my deck being so defensive. We kept wondering why something that burns Earth could lose to it. In the end we all decided SD03 was trash and he just stuck with his old SD02 instead which for him is a lot stronger and faster.
I usually dislike that you take cards off the list if theyve shown up in other videos, but i totally understand it
So i extra like that you include them in the Honorable mentions spot, please continue doing that!
I used Dicelops in my decks DuelLogs :(
I find his effect very funny even if it loses me the duel
Glad Firegrass isnt on the list. Time to put 3 of them in my deck.
Make a “failed cards, etc.” video on naturia please! Also, how about a “top 10 cards NEVER restricted in any way, but were widely considered to be hit on a banlist” (ex. Dante)
0:26 Idea to make Dicelops better by leaning into the dice angle:
_The Destroyer Dicelops_ (FIRE)
Level 4
Machine/Tuner/Effect
_If an effect that requires a Die Roll is activated, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand or GY). Gains ATK equal to the results of any Die Roll Results X100. Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can roll a six-sided die, then apply the result._
_● 1-2: Look at your opponent's hand, also discard 1 card from their hand._
_● 3-4: Both players reveal their hand, then Discard 1 card._
_● 5-6 Reveal your entire hand, then discard 1 card._
ATK/1800 DEF/200
"Thank you for your suggestion, but we do not care" - konamy designers
@@ManuelRiccobono
Listen, I’m having my fun as I’ve been having it since forever at this point, and either way you can’t tell me this ISN’T a better version of the current Dicelops… It’s a higher level Tuner with above average ATK stats and can be used with “Rekindling”, has a built in non-OPT special summon that another copy of itself (or ANY dice related effect for that matter) can trigger, improved die roll effects that are more beneficial to you and less self-detrimental, and can gain moderate amounts of ATK, either through it’s own dice rolling or other such effects.
I think make it special summonable if you control gamble card like effect that roll dice much better.., i mean not by activating effect
@@rikosakurauchi7161
Hmm… I mean wouldn’t that limit the card to such cards that need to be on the field (Monsters, field spells, Pendulum Monsters in the Pendulum Zone and Continuous Spells/Traps)? And also, I WOULD need to put in a hard OPT, or at least a cost like discarding a card or paying LP. The idea with the current effect is to provide you multiple incentives to actually USE those Die rolling effects (The potential for multiple special summons AND an ATK boost that can stack up faster than your opponent can handle), and mitigating the inherent risk/rewards of most such cards by making itself a reward in it’s own right.
As a kid I put fire sorcerer in my deck, and it won me a duel once. Because of that I just kept it in my deck and I even put in Lady assailant of the flames and that also won me a duel once, and I didn't take it out until the 5ds era. Then Cowboy came out and I actually started to run a good burn card.
22:58 Idea to improve this card by playing into the “Incinerator” part:
_The Infernal Incinerator_ (FIRE)
Level 6
Fiend/Effect
_Requires a Tribute with 2000 or more total ATK/DEF to Normal Summon/Set. Can be Special Summoned (From your hand) by discarding all other cards from your hand (Quick Effect). Gains 500 ATK for every card that is sent to the GY or banished. Once per turn Quick Effect), You can decrease this card’s ATK: Decrease the ATK/DEF of 1 monster your opponent controls by an equal amount, and if it’s ATK or DEF has been reduced to 0 as a result, destroy it._
ATK/2800 DEF/1800
16:30 Impressive that you mentioned the anime duel Tea had and not mentioning her effect was used by banishing POT OF GREED AND GRACEFUL CHARITY!
That has to be one of the most outrageous 0 IQ plays you can ever do in a duel
Maybe she didn't knew what it does?
Even more annoying is if it were JOEY doing that, other characters would've told him "you idiot! YOu could've played that and got an extra card!" and it'd be a great learning experience, literally the point of Joey's character being so bad at the game, to help teach how to play. There was no reason for the writers to have her banish free advantage like that. they could've made it ANY other card so she'd look more compentent, especially since her winning play was an absolute genius move, summoning the Dark Magician token to close out the game.
"But Mr. Logs! you might say..." I don't know why, but that line had me cracking up lol
14:09 Idea to make this card a better FLIP monster with other effects that supplement your FIRE deck:
_Fire Magician_ (FIRE)
Level 4
Spellcaster/Flip/Tuner/Effect
_FLIP: Set, Add to your hand, send to your GY, or Banish 1 card that mentions “FIRE” in its text from your hand, deck, Field, GY or Banishment._
_You can increase or decrease this card’s level by 1 for each card that is Banished. You can banish 2 other cards from your hand or field (Quick Effect): Apply 1 of the following effects._
_⚪️Inflict 800 damage to your opponent, Then increase the ATK of all FIRE monsters you control by 800._
_⚪️Special Summon 1 Level/Rank/Link 2 or lower FIRE monster form your hand, GY or Banishment, but banish it facedown during the End Phase of this turn._
_⚪️During the Main Phase of this turn, you can Normal Summon 1 FIRE monster (in addition to your Normal Summon/Set if it’s your turn.)_
ATK/1500 DEF/200
With an Atk/Def stat like that, this would be an interesting tech for Charmers with their field spell and a more Fire based strategy
reminder: they just turned Allure queen into a archetype.
It already was one no?
It was only like 2-3 Lv monsters before Konami just recently revealed to us 2 more monsters and a field spell
This new content has been fire! Really enjoy the fun facts thrown in
Alternative name: "Top 10 FIRE monsters that you should try to make work in your gimmick deck".
Would love to see another characters important cards video I would love to see one with Tyranno Hasselberry since dinosaurs are my favorite archetype in yugioh.
Awesome new format Mr Logs. Keep up the good work
BuT mR. LoGs! I spit my drink from laughing. I love your videos.
aitsu managed to top a tournament in duel links once...with invoked...back when 12 traps, invoked engine and some fire monster would be called a solid deck
Regardless of the speaking mistakes, great video as usual.
I'm not sure why Grandsoil isn't a Rock, but a Beast-Warrior, hence it's name.
Love seeing DuelLogs Duel Logs leak into the main channel
I actually have an Infernal Flame Emperor lying in my basement somewhere, probably from that original structure deck, which is the only physical Yugioh product I own. I've looked at it quite a few times but this is the first time I've ever actually read what it does.
Fire Sorcerer was also used by the duel spirit of the Dark Magician Girl against Jaden in Yugioh GX, she banished her own DMG and a Magician’s Valkyria, which she would later bring back to the field with Dimension Fusion.
5:00 Great thing there's a card that will inflict summoning sickness to everyone. Making great synergy with those toon cards. :D
OMG! I've had Aitsu since I was a teenager and I never realized he's the red guy from the Fossil Dig card artwork
I think there might actually be a niche use for Fire Sorcerer in today's metagame. Not necessarily a FIRE strategy, but a strategy that revolves around banishing cards, and retrieving said cards back
The fact that it's random means unless you can specifically get rid of your entire hand other than the 2 cards you want to banish, it's never going to be consistent. I just don't see it working.
🔥This FIRE video reminded me of a FIRE Ritual monster and accompanied Spell I had come up with some time ago… A sort of Religious/Mythology themed monster with a dash of Science Fantasy, that revolved around a sort of “dance” with it’s effects:
_Sun-Dance Shiva_ (FIRE)
Level 1
Pyro/Ritual/Tuner/Effect
_You can Ritual Summon this card with “Sun-Dance Celebration!”. Gains 200 original ATK X its original level, and can make additional attacks per battle phase X half its original level. Your opponent cannot target other monsters you control for attacks or monster effects. Once while this ritual summoned card is face-up on the field (Quick Effect), You can Inflict damage to your opponent equal to this card’s original level X100. Once per turn (Quick Effect), you can discard 1 card: Add 1 “Sun-Dance Celebration!” to your Hand from your Deck or GY. If this card would be banished after you’ve first Ritual Summoned a “Sun-Dance” Ritual Monster this duel: Add it and/or 1 “Sun Dance” Spell/Trap from your field, deck or GY to your hand instead._
ATK/0 DEF/200
_Sun-Dance Celebration!_
Ritual Spell
_This card can be used to Ritual Summon (from your hand or GY) any number of “Sun-Dance Shiva” and/or other FIRE Ritual Monsters from your hand or GY. You must also Banish monsters from your hand, field and/or GY whose total Levels/Ranks/Links equal or exceed the Level(s) of those Ritual Monsters you Ritual Summon, and if you do, you can immediately increase and/or decrease the original levels of each of those Ritual Summoned monsters by up to the combined Levels/Ranks/Links of those banished monsters (Max. 15). Monsters Ritual Summoned by this card gain the following effect while on the field._
_⚪️The first time this card would be destroyed by battle or card effect each turn, it is not destroyed._
Please let this be a new series. Would be fun to see the worst for the other attributes. Series of lists for the best for each attribute would be nice too
Wait, how did you manage to say "Gradius" differently - think you said it correctly first time?
Jokes aside, I actually liked this video - never knew some of the backstory or facts about em, nicely done Mr Logs!
11:04 Shiny Feenith Enforcer
i like when Mr. Logs shows a bit of personality, it reminds me that he's a human. I always thought he was something like that Sam from windows Micosoft narrative voice thing back in 2004 lol
I was literally just thinking about Dicelops "it doesn't seem too bad, ignoring it's effect you've still got an 1800 level 4 monstet with 200 def that can be a target for rekindling" only for Duel Logs to call out those making that argument.
Granted, Duel Logs in general avoids putting normal monsters as otherwise so many of those early ones would fill this list (the non-toon Ryu Ran, Flame Swordsman, etc) and there really isn't much to talk about them as it'd just be "not worth the cost to bring out" so obviously that does narrow down the pool of cards to choose from for worst lists.
Blaze of Destruction was the second pair of structure decks (with its water counterpart). The first pair gave us Vampire Genesis and Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon...
3:04 Idea to retrain Ryu here by making it a living Rekindling:
_Toon Ryu-Ran_ (FIRE)
Dragon/Toon/Effect
_Requires FIRE Tributes to Normal Summon/Set. Must first be Special Summoned (from your hand or GY) by Tributing 2 cards you control, while you control "Toon World". Cannot attack the turn it is Special Summoned. While you control this face-up card, All Toon and “Toon” monsters in your GY are also treated as FIRE-attribute, and their DEF while in the GY becomes 200. While you control “Toon World”, You can discard 1 card (Quick-Effect): Special Summon from your GY as many FIRE Toon or “Toon” monsters as possible with 200 DEF, but banish them during the End Phase of this turn. While you control "Toon World" and your opponent controls no Toon monsters, this card can attack directly._
ATK/2600 DEF/200
so fun story about infernal flame emperor: back in college (around 2012 or so) i was having a for funsies match of my fire pile deck against a buddy's water pile. he had gravity bind active and we both had full fields of level 4+ monsters, so we were deadlocked for about 4-5 turns or so until i drew our boy at 4th worst and he couldn't stop my summon so gravity bind obviously ended and i swung for game. he definitely sucks but i just thought i'd share the fact that yes there was in fact one time across all permutations of casual/competitive play throughout the game's entire 26 year history where someone could actually say "infernal flame emperor won the game for me"
I'll admit that I honestly like Ultimate Obedient Fiend, but it could still have some use in a deck where you have options that allow you to choose your opponent's battle targets, especially if you play something that forces your opponent to attack when able with their Attack Position monsters. For decks that like the Battle Phase for one reason or another (like most of what I use in Master Duel), it can be pretty intimidating to enter the Battle Phase staring down the barrel of a 3500 ATK beat stick your opponent can just decide to be the target of your monster's attacks.
Dude, you're actually so funny. 😂 always love a DuelLogs video
4:54 hey! No fair, we need those life points to survive our opponents battle phase because they blew up our board with basic combo pieces and negates.
Wait, is Tri-headed dust dragon's zone lock effect not once per turn?
...the crazy part of me wants to try using it to setup a full zone lock, considering that this card is 3 zones locked on its own, though I guess that would require putting two cards on the opponent's board somehow.
I could see some funny GOAT format shenanigans with Ultimate Obedient Fiend and final attack order, since it would be a big beatstick and would force your opponent to crash into it
Final Attack Orders only forces all your opponents monsters into attack position. It doesn't force an attack.
Maybe you're combining it with Staunch Defender? That forces all your opponents monsters to attack a specific monster if possible.
I recognized Dicelops. I've spent my spare time the past month and change organizing my bulk. I've got about a half dozen copies of him.
Fire Sorcerer can be set and Creature Swap to the opponent, then force it to flip.
maybe pair it with mimighoul?
10:40 I think it would be cool if heroes got a Double Fusion card, where you can fuse twice in a row. Either that or like, a spell that basically lets you use the first piece from the extra deck for a HERO monster specifically
Is it bad to say I used to unironically run Ultimate Obedient Fiend in a Axe of Fools/Skill Drain centered deck?
Looking the card over, I think you could have mentioned Tri-Head Dust Dragon's effects are actually pretty unique. None of them have a once per turn at all. You could potentially make it a huge beatstick or even OTK against the right opponent. Similarly, it's board locking effect can be used on both monster or trap zones so even if you can't do a monster lock, maybe you could be cheeky and restrict spell zones enough that they might have to play into an Impermanence. It still isn't good, but I think it's more interesting than Manga Ryu-Ran.
He also missed the fact that it isn't restricted to XYZ summon to use its effect to gain attack, it just says Special Summon.
@@trisertricordoh2127 For some reason I thought the attack gain effect was a detach effect, but you make a good point too.
That six makes it a 2/3 but also removes the possibility that a 6 will show up.
So you never get the whole hand removal.
Its a chance one of you drops a card and you're playing with the higher odds.
It actually works really well in my nostalgic feeling decks.
3:03 One thing Dicelops has going for it is its stat of 200 Def, so at least it's a target for Rekindling.
Imagine a field spell that lets you both special summon Aitsu or Soitsu from the hand or deck and add Doitstu or Koitsu to the hand and give them protection from card effects.
I got Aitsu as a kid, and he became a joke between me and my friends, and we would get super hyped whenever someone would get him out. Then my brother got Koitsu and they became an even bigger meme in my friend group. That's Aitsu and Koitsu's claim to fame, they're memes, and they were never meant to be good.
Hi Mr. Logs can you make a video of the hidden meaning of cards? I remember in a video you mentioned that Mai's Mirror Wall was to reflect how she puts an image towards others or something like that. Thanks for considering my request.
Honestly this video might become outdated by virture of mimighoul possibly making fire sorceress playable
@@DarkSymphony777
Yeah, but even then there are better ways to deal comparable or greater burn damage, or otherwise better payoffs for banishing 2 cards.
I’m thinking it would be fun to have her be retrained as a Flip/Effect with a FLIP effect AND an on-field effect. Maybe even make her a Flip Tuner or Pendulum so she benefits from a rather unique suite of support cards.
Let me come up with something…
_Fire Sorceress_ (FIRE)
Level 4
Spellcaster/Flip/Tuner/Effect
_FLIP: Add 1 Spell/Trap to your hand (From your Deck, GY or Banishment) that mentions “FIRE” in its text._
_Must be Normal Set (Cannot be Normal Summoned). You can banish 2 cards from your hand (Quick Effect): Apply 1 of the following effects, and if you do, inflict 800 Damage to your opponent._
_⚪️Increase the ATK of all Face-up FIRE monsters you control by 800._
_⚪️Special Summon 1 Level 2 or lower FIRE monster from your GY or Banishment, but Banish it Facedown during the end phase of this turn._
ATK/2300 DEF/200
THERE, I gave her a new FLIP effect to search out a FIRE focused Spell/Trap, then remade her old FLIP effect into something a smidge better, retaining her burn damage while also either buffing your FIRE monster’s ATK by 800 OR using her personal diet-“Rekindling” (using single Level 2 or less FIRE monsters instead of swaths of FIRE monsters with 200 DEF.)
Manga Ryu Ran is one of those designs that stuck in my head alongside other goofy card designs in DM
These days, I don't find yugioh fun as it used to be, I just play it to use the monsters I like and don't care if it's effects harm me or hurt the enemy.
The elemental lords should have been an extra deck part of the elementsaber archetype.
The lords become fusion monsters requiring 5 of their respective attribute but there would be an elementsaber spell card that would summon them ignoring their summoning conditions by having exactly 5 of that attribute in your GY.
In the Good Ol Days, I had Infernal Incinerator and Ultimate Obedient Fiend in my collection. Somehow, I managed to make them work, but it wasn't easy, considering how hard you have to work to make them playable.
Ultimately, it's not really worth the effort. But tbh, I liked the cards a lot because they were really cool-looking.
I have a group of cards that need a video. Seeing as you covered Video game cards could you go over the 10 Speed Spell cards from the 5ds games
I dont duel duke, but i did give him a diceclops in my cpu tournaments on masterduel, manga ryu does suck, never heard of tri-head, Shining enforcer is meh, fire sorcerer is bad i did not even give it to Tea, Pyro rex and the other elemental lords i do plan to give to people in my tournament. Inferno flame lord i am either giving to axel or his father in my tournaments, but neither have appeared yet. Infernal incinerator is in Evan a npc video game characters deck. i assume he will lose but i wanted to represent that chazz deck but didnt want to give it to him. Ult obedient i do not know how to set up. Okay Last turn works, my tournaments do not fully care about ban list so anything is available. All mentions are in different characters decks and Aitsu i plan to use in a children themed npc in next weeks tournament.
26:58 Idea to make Heat here a better HERO fusion;
_Elemental HERO Hyper-Heat_
Level 8
Warrior/Fusion/Effect
"Elemental HERO Heat" + "Elemental HERO Lady Heat"
_You can also Special Summon this card by tributing the above monsters you control (This is treated as a Fusion Summon). While face-up in the field, this card’s name is also treated as each of the above card’s. “HERO” Monsters you control gain 200 ATK/DEF for each “HERO” monster you control. If a “HERO” monster you control battles an opponent’s monster, it gains 1000 ATK/DEF during the damage step only. During each end phase, inflict 200 damage to your opponent for each Face-Up “HERO” monster you control._
ATK/2900 DEF/2200
Gradius and Parodius mentioned. Major points to that.
I figured Shining Phoenix Enforcer would make this list. I really like this card and its counter part. I find it so stupid how so many OG hero fusions have that annoying can’t be special summoned in other ways lock
Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Necrophades? NecrophadEEZ NU-
Dicelops actually saw use in my Duel Links Dark World deck when they added Grapha. It's actually pretty good there, all of its effects are beneficial to the strategy. Is it good? No. Do I like it? Yes absolutely.
Fire sorcerrer also is used on GX, by a duelist, his strategy is to banish his hand and then use Dimension fusion for a OTK.
one redeeming fact of pyrorex is that it CAN be summoned with double evolution pill since its a dino.
With the mimighouls, fire sorcerer becomes a beast, if you pair with triple talent thrust you can make your opponent play with a hand of 3 in their turn
Infernal flame emperor is one of my favorite cards. It’s so cool
Top 10 Worst Dark Monsters in Yugioh of all time
All the dark scorpions
@@Drakorre Yeah they’re so bad
Cyber Archfiend
Yeah, I don’t care for monsters that can’t be special summoned by other means. That’s pretty much saying to you to not let the monster get destroyed by anything. Point blank.
Absolutely adore the new scripts!!
I really love this channel
Fun fact Vic Viper would go on to be a boss fight and Leo Stenbucks battle frame in zone of the Enders 2nd Runner
Before the recent support, Tri-Head helped Fire Kings get over decks like Blue-Eyes with MAX dragon
To be fair to Shining Phoenix Enforcer, it doesn't have any restrictions on whether or not you can use substitution monsters. So King of the Swamp can be used in place of Phoenix enforcer, considerably cutting down on the resources need to make it. Also, remember that King of the Swamp is a fairly staple card of fusion decks anyway, since it can double as extra copies of Polymerization too, so particularly back in the day it's not like there's any special deck-building requirements to use it.
However I do agree that that the card is kinda self defeating, being both unable to be destroyed by battle and having a lot of attack points, when Shining Flare Wingman does a better job of being a blowout card. I don't think it justifies being in the top 10 worst though.
Yeah it’s other benefit it’s also an E-hero so it could easily benefit with other Hero cards even though it that’s not a staple anymore.
The duel logs curse puts out a video and one of the cards he talks about becomes "playable". Fire Sorcerer might go crazy in mimighoul, although it probably won't be that good.
Top 10 Fusion Monsters with generic materials but cannot be Fusion Summoned with Super Polymerization
dicelops has some serious “one with nothing” energy going for it
DuelLogs gonna sing a different tune about Fire Sorcerer if duelists find a way to make her work with Mimicghouls
I'd like to think that fire sorcerer will see some niece play in the near future thanks the new mimighoul archetype allowing you to summon it to the opponents field
Can we get the other element or the monster types for future videos?
TheDuelLogs: "Fire Sorcerer it's a bad card for anyone playing!"
Mimighoul: 😀😀😀😀😀
If a boss monster doesn’t have any negation effects is it really a boss?