As a owner of 453d gran coupe, the stated figures are well above, my real world Avg is 35mpg. Rapid car though and the torque in launch control is unreal. Glad to see I made a good choice on balance of fuel/power and topped your list JB
Thanks for this vid, I was looking for this nd think that we will be heading this way looking at the price of fuel rocketing up and regulations over fuel powered vehicles, respect for the content bro ur a legend!
If you can stretch to just over £20k, M240i, 340bhp, 500nm of torque and I regularly get over 30mpg out of mine. On a long run I can get well over 40mpg
I had an alfa guiletta . Chipped it which changed the car. Only up to 270hp but what a difference low down. 3 years driving no issues at all.worth a look I say.
I just bought a 2017 435d m sport with professiona media the sound system Is what surprised me the most incredible best I've heard in any car ever they Harmon/kardon speakers are something else
Yes, it is great. With equaliser it will please everybody - tested on a variety of genres. Another great feature is the digital display - a really convenient thing. So far not too many complaints, however my main one is paddle shifters - too small and not enough feedback ('click'). On top of that because they move with the steering wheel, very limited use. Overall it's fair to say that in this department Alfa (with Veloce pack) nailed it. Hope you'll enjoy yours as much as I do mine - although, I can't really give it a proper blast in the UK (especially with all the potholes popping up everywhere).
Don't believe Golf R figures! I was getting around 18-22 round town (having fun of course) and on the motorway only 32 being good. However it was the MK7 with 6 speed DSG and i believe owners with the MK7.5 get slightly better economy due to the 7 speed DSG
That is genuinely shocking- my porker with its 3.4L NA block gets 33 as an overall average and I don't exactly drive slowly! Gets well into the 40s on a run without too much difficulty (but the road noise means I do cruise at
As a 2016 TTS owner, I have to agree. 18-22 is what I see on short journeys. The thermostat housing is a major failing on the EA888 with some failing at under 30k miles. It’s a £700-1200 repair.
I had a 335D 16 plate, so the same engine as that 435D, stage 1 remapped up to around 380 bhp (not dyno'd) and I got a draggy time of 3.2 secs 0-60 🤤🤤🤤 I only got rid as the noise was crappy compared to a petrol and happily traded up for a Mk 7.5 GTI, which wasn't as pokey off the mark, but was definitely a more enjoyable drive with the DSG farts. 🤣 Stage 1 on that took it to where it ought to have been from the factory at 306.5 bhp (from the MAF) and even though it wasn't the Performance model with a diff it was by far the best handling and goning car I've had.
@@RM-gk2ck I was getting around 32 mpg out of my 335d xdrive before a remap around town about 38 on the motorway , I had it mapped at unicorn on their rolling road last week after fitting a CSF intercooler stage 1+ took it to 400bhp 576 ft lb ( 780nm ) torque ,The difference in performance is great 0 to 60 from 4.8 to 3.7 the torque is stunning , I'm getting around 35 around town and 42 motorway now , The torque comes in much earlier now i guess that helps with fuel consumption , Hope this helps
That's not bad. I drove a Peugeot 108 which has a little 1 litre engine and the computer says I'm doing 50mpg which isn't far off your car. I did have a fiesta zetec S TDCI and the computer was around 54mpg
Consider a remapped 225d with filters unblocked. 290hp over 400lbs torque. 60s mpg real world and over 200kg lighter than a 435d. Much less money to buy with rwd fun.
He is spot on with the 435d I bought one 8 months ago with 46000 miles and it's a awesome car but steering rack needed a kit on its MOT to repair it and luckily I guy did me a favour and replaced the egr valve under the recall as it started losing massive amounts of coolant all of a sudden and it was the egr that was causing it. So look out for that folks if you start losing coolant 👍 also a bit of a shock coming from normal cars to this was mine had the m performance brakes and it was a grand for front and rear pads! But my what a delight driving it to work each day. Mpg wise I'm getting the exact same 44mpg in this than I got in my 2.2d Mazda 3 which is insane...mine has also had a stage 1 map 🔥🔥🔥🔥
A very quick car and economical is the Audi A6 3.0 biturbo tdi. 315 bhp / 650 NM torque. O-60 4.9 seconds. Combined mpg 44 (50+ on motorway). Quattro 4 wheel drive. Plenty of 13-15 reg under £20,000. That’s the pick of the bunch for me along with a 335d / 435d. I have to have 4 doors. 2 doors do my head in.
Had the A7 bi turbo 65 plate had it for 3 years brilliant car but was Lucky to get 25 - 30mpg real world driving on motor way.. If you want the claimed mpg by manufacturers you need to be doing around 40 Mph on the motorway... Like I say brilliant car and really miss it but had to sell as was costing me a fortune not just fuel but tyres too being quattro and 21 inch wheels the weight of the car was eating the rubber for breakfast.
maybe you should consider how the current fuel economy cycle is WLTP - which is more realistic than the old one. This means that cars pre 2018 ish might have significantly higher listed fuel economy figues, compared to what they get in reality
I've got a Focus mk3.5 st diesel, stage 3 from Pumaspeed giving 278 bhp and nearly 600nm. 47 mpg 650 miles on a full tank, on a long run I've had 62 mpg.
I just got a 435i after test driving the 435d, the d pulls better and has way better fuel economy but the sound of the i6 petrol makes the fuel worth it. I paid 90 quid for a tank of momentum and it got me 380 miles so isn't too bad
What mpg do you get from the 435i? I drive an older 125i (non turbo i6) and long journeys are great can get near 40mpg but anything stop start in town… closer to 20 😭🤣
The 435d is an animal. I have an Audi A5 3.0TDi Quattro with a stage 1, it’s 300hp with 40mpg. I love it and it’s a great daily 😍😍 it’s only about £5k worth but could probably only replace it with better for over £15k
how does it pull as 0-60 times and 100-200 times over youtube standard and stage 1 have put me off due to it being heavy asf, diesel and quattrro..? also what cars have you pulled against as I'm deciding between your car or 330/335d
@@ASHRZx 0-60 is 5.3 which is 0.6 faster than stock. Could probably do it quicker with more talent! In-gear acceleration is fantastic though. I imagine a 335 would go much quicker with 4.8secs from the factory, if I had £20k to spare I’d get one. But at £5k it’s fantastic and looks better than anything else for the price in my opinion.
Real world from a Golf R mk7.5 using higher octane fuel was 30mpg for me. That's with it mostly being in race mode, in the Aut/winter with PS4 tyres, and a heavy right foot. Funny because the Jaguar XE R-Sport AWD 180 it replaced, was also 30mpg average. Shows how good the R is.
I have a BMW 320d xdrive, I drive mostly around town, M25 and the M11, most of the time on the motorway’s I’m doing 60 mph that’s because there a lot of lorry’s overtaking other lorry’s at 1 mph more and in the fast lane there are van’s limited to 69 mph who won’t more over, not forgetting the average speed cameras, so my car is perfect and I get on the average over 50 mpg
None of these will do the economy claimed which is the old test figure. Reckon on about 10 less than quoted, 30ish for a golf R and 40ish for a 435 diesel which is extremely good for the power on offer. You might get the quoted combined figure on a run. For example my golf 1.5t estate is supposed to do 43 under new system but 52 on old system. It does 42 overall, 37 in town and 53 on a run. I've seen over 60 if I keep my speed down to 65 on motorways. At 150bhp it seems to have plenty of oomph but then my previous car was a Leon ST 1.6tdi with just 115bhp. That was supposed to do 74mpg but really only did about 52 and 58 or so on a run.
As an A45 owner you will never ever see anywhere near 40mpg unless you are doing super long motorway journeys. Driving sensibly day to day more like 30mpg
@@samuraiz3406 How to wreck a no claims, also means insurance will be pricier and the payout is never enough to actually replace the car. Not to mention the inconvenience of legitimately having your car stolen. It's definitely a factor, insurance doesn't just negate the issue...
@@TristanBehrensmost people I know were able to upgrade their car after a write off/thief because they insurance paid out almost the full value or more
@@BIG2hats That's not something I've heard of, but good for them. Insurance companies are usually notoriously difficult to extract money from and generally underestimate the value of the car in payouts, at least in the experiences of most people I know and have spoken to.
I would suggest using Honest John's "real mpg" database when compiling these lists, I have found it to be very accurate. Much more so than manufacturers specs. For example I have just sold my giulietta qv as on my 115mile daily commute in and out of London it achieves only 30mpg, and this is 90% motorway driving. If it could achieve 40mpg as stated I would have kept it, as it is a very entertaining car IMO. I would suggest the Jaguar XE as a great car for fuel economy under £20k, I had one prior to the Giulietta.
Honest John is good, although I feel like people tend to post their stats if they're either pleasantly surprised or disappointed with their MPG. It also doesn't tell you how many submissions it's based on specifically for each version as far as I can spot, just the total per model. For example, a 718 Cayman S is on there as getting 23.8mpg yet the GTS apparently gets 31.5mpg. To be honest for all the cars I've owned, I've found that if I drove them gently they invariably matched or beat the official figures. Of course, not driving cars gently ruins that- especially in anything with a turbo, more so than big NA engines, hence why a 981S has no trouble beating any 718 for economy (which I find just a little bit hilarious 😁).
@@ApothecaryTerry very true. Obviously driving style plays a bit part. It could be argued it would be a complete waste of time buying any car on this list to poodle around though. Given 90% of my daily commute is spent on the motorway, acceleration is almost irrelevant and in the current climate fuel economy takes priority. If driving at 70 on cruise control results in 30mpg then it's a no go for me.
@@owenwestgate1505 It's true that buying a fast car to drive slow doesn't make sense really, but cruising at 65-70 with music on is more fun than doing for me so I tend to value acceleration, handling and also MPG. I also value comfort at speed since my commute is also basically just motorway...I bought my 981CS in lockdown so I could just blast it around the west country instead of commuting 😁 It's (probably) going later this year though, since as of tomorrow I've got to go back 3 days a week. Considering how many seriously fast cars get good economy, 30mpg on a motorway would put me off anything too- I'm disappointed if I can't get 40 on a run, 48.1 was my best over 90 miles - did 60 since I like a bit of prog and the album was longer than the journey otherwise!
I can't walk past the care home down the road without staring at the RCZ-R in the car park. Easily my pick in this one! They apparently actually get the economy too. The 435d probably isn't that economical in terms of cost per mile with the price of diesel now sadly, I reckon that's actually the 4 series version to have. Considering how many people are saying they don't get the figures from most of the cars in this video, I feel it's worth noting that the porker does 😄 Sure it costs a grand to get anything done, but the fuel is cheap 😂
JB fella; love your videos, you’re a great guy. But PLEASE stop with your over use of BMW’s. They feature in nearly every single one of your videos. It’s repetitive.
I've got a BMW 330d e90 touring which averages around 35-40mpg and does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds (stage 2 remap). It cost me less than £4k and I would definetly recommend one!
My 2016 Mini Cooper Auto JCW Convertible (which reluctantly I’m selling) gives me about 35-38mpg in town and around 50mpg on a run. Needless to say say my foot is never to the floor and even less so now with fuel costs, where I’m sure that there’s a permanent vacuum between my sole and the pedal! Hence the great economy!
Manufacturers mpg figures are an Absolute joke. zero chance of 50mpg out of the 335/435d. 35 is realistic. 330/430d non xdrive can return 40mpg all day long.
When I first got my 335d I was averaging around 44mpg. I drive a little less conservatively nowadays and get around 38. Longer journeys on the motorway will see you getting over 50mpg though
@@markmahood2019 I have covered over 60000 in mine and it is a 2014, had it for many years now. I would say that on average since owning it I have had 40mpg so although it is a fair way off what bmw claimed, it is better than I was expecting
Or a 335d for the extra doors....makes getting in and out of the rear so much easier. Just make sure you get one with folding rear seats if you go for used as it was an optional extra on older cars.
What you'll save in fuel economy you'll get ripped off in maintenance on these cars lmao. Sad that you didnt have any japanese cars on this list who are at the top of fuel economy.
A bit of Googling tells me the UK is really not a bad place for car thefts at all. Depending on whose stats you trust, the rate is anything from 90-170 thefts per 100k people. For comparison: Italy, Sweden and France all have around 250 car thefts per 100k people.
Getting a 320d as my first car because university is a 2 hour motorway drive away. Then going to work on the weekends is another 30 minute motorway drive (store transfer) has pretty good fuel economy and will still drive fast without the massive insurance premiums since it's a 2.0 you will pay more than your standard 1 litre corsa shit box. But atleast it won't struggle on the motorways.
"Who doesn't want a fast estate" Me. I don't like estates in general, but even more so the fast ones. Estates to me are "dad cars" meant so people can do ikea shopping and drop off their offspring at school, and having more than 220 bhp in a car like that doesn't seem reasonable to me. I know people have different tastes and many car enthusiasts are into that, but I'm not one of these guys.
There's a lot to be said for having a car that can make you smile while also being capable of dropping off a sofa. If you have kids / dogs / etc and budget for a single car it makes a lot of sense instead of running 2+ cars with different characteristics. Saab 9-5 HOT Aero, Audi RS6 Avant are some perfect examples of sensible monsters.
My 2018 GTI was awesome! Make sure you get the DSG and maybe a Performance model if you can find one for that money. I reluctantly sold as there was £3500 equity in it. Also only get one if you plan to remap it as they're really underwhelming with the standard power. The remap brought it to life in my opinion.
Hey loved the vid! Could you do the same thing but for cheaper price brackets (e.g. £5k, £2k, £1k)
^this, am downgrading to a 5k car to put some £ in the bank, struggling with choices rn
@@justenough2326 Waiting for your choices
What about Skoda Fabia vRS. They did a 1.9tdi diesel engine I think
@@ChrisLitton diesel is very very costly in my country
@@EMENIKEP where you at
As a owner of 453d gran coupe, the stated figures are well above, my real world Avg is 35mpg. Rapid car though and the torque in launch control is unreal. Glad to see I made a good choice on balance of fuel/power and topped your list JB
I'm getting 44mpg so depending on roads... driving etc it could get 50 if you drove sensible....but that impossible in a car like this 😂😂😂 🔥🔥🔥🔥
46-48 in mine with stage 1+.
Wtf is 453 brev
@@thatpersiandude7386 my bad, 435d
@@thatpersiandude7386 what is brev?
Thanks for this vid, I was looking for this nd think that we will be heading this way looking at the price of fuel rocketing up and regulations over fuel powered vehicles, respect for the content bro ur a legend!
If you can stretch to just over £20k, M240i, 340bhp, 500nm of torque and I regularly get over 30mpg out of mine. On a long run I can get well over 40mpg
I had an alfa guiletta . Chipped it which changed the car. Only up to 270hp but what a difference low down. 3 years driving no issues at all.worth a look I say.
Just under a month ago I got myself 67 plate 435d. What a lovely car it is!
I just bought a 2017 435d m sport with professiona media the sound system Is what surprised me the most incredible best I've heard in any car ever they Harmon/kardon speakers are something else
Yes, it is great. With equaliser it will please everybody - tested on a variety of genres. Another great feature is the digital display - a really convenient thing.
So far not too many complaints, however my main one is paddle shifters - too small and not enough feedback ('click'). On top of that because they move with the steering wheel, very limited use. Overall it's fair to say that in this department Alfa (with Veloce pack) nailed it.
Hope you'll enjoy yours as much as I do mine - although, I can't really give it a proper blast in the UK (especially with all the potholes popping up everywhere).
@@markymark1940 word, the speakers in my older 5 are still great
Can you do a video for most reliable, fast cars for under 10k please?
Don't believe Golf R figures! I was getting around 18-22 round town (having fun of course) and on the motorway only 32 being good. However it was the MK7 with 6 speed DSG and i believe owners with the MK7.5 get slightly better economy due to the 7 speed DSG
Sounds similar to my experience with my TT, GTD would be better if you want fuel economy
That is genuinely shocking- my porker with its 3.4L NA block gets 33 as an overall average and I don't exactly drive slowly! Gets well into the 40s on a run without too much difficulty (but the road noise means I do cruise at
As a 2016 TTS owner, I have to agree. 18-22 is what I see on short journeys.
The thermostat housing is a major failing on the EA888 with some failing at under 30k miles. It’s a £700-1200 repair.
I had a 335D 16 plate, so the same engine as that 435D, stage 1 remapped up to around 380 bhp (not dyno'd) and I got a draggy time of 3.2 secs 0-60 🤤🤤🤤 I only got rid as the noise was crappy compared to a petrol and happily traded up for a Mk 7.5 GTI, which wasn't as pokey off the mark, but was definitely a more enjoyable drive with the DSG farts. 🤣 Stage 1 on that took it to where it ought to have been from the factory at 306.5 bhp (from the MAF) and even though it wasn't the Performance model with a diff it was by far the best handling and goning car I've had.
How was the economy on that 335d with/without the remap?
@@RM-gk2ck I was getting around 32 mpg out of my 335d xdrive before a remap around town about 38 on the motorway , I had it mapped at unicorn on their rolling road last week after fitting a CSF intercooler stage 1+ took it to 400bhp 576 ft lb ( 780nm ) torque ,The difference in performance is great 0 to 60 from 4.8 to 3.7 the torque is stunning , I'm getting around 35 around town and 42 motorway now , The torque comes in much earlier now i guess that helps with fuel consumption , Hope this helps
@@williamsteventon6191 nice one mate. How much did that stage 1 setup cost in total? I thought intercooler would only be needed for a stage 2?
I run a Jaguar XFR, 5 litre V8 goodness :) 24mpg on the motorway and eats Golf R's for breakfast.
This video should be renamed - 4 Performance Petrol Cars, with Factory MPG figures no where near their real world figure and a Diesel :)
Still wanted to thank you for recommending me the Volvo C30 R Design D3. Went up in price and the perfect hatchback.
My 2013 tuned (240 bhp) Fiesta ST MK7 sees regular track action, yet on a long trip it does 45 mpg.
That's not bad. I drove a Peugeot 108 which has a little 1 litre engine and the computer says I'm doing 50mpg which isn't far off your car. I did have a fiesta zetec S TDCI and the computer was around 54mpg
Yeah but it’s a fiesta. Who the fuck wants to been seen in a fiesta? 😂
@@Hesus_ What's your "whip" then big bollocks?
Nice choices. The Pug should have been a convertible! Now where's my angle grinder? All the best......
Hi the Skoda Octavia VRS estate and hatch Diesel will do very good mpg,you can get them in all price ranges under 20k,10k,5k&2k
Consider a remapped 225d with filters unblocked. 290hp over 400lbs torque. 60s mpg real world and over 200kg lighter than a 435d. Much less money to buy with rwd fun.
He is spot on with the 435d I bought one 8 months ago with 46000 miles and it's a awesome car but steering rack needed a kit on its MOT to repair it and luckily I guy did me a favour and replaced the egr valve under the recall as it started losing massive amounts of coolant all of a sudden and it was the egr that was causing it. So look out for that folks if you start losing coolant 👍 also a bit of a shock coming from normal cars to this was mine had the m performance brakes and it was a grand for front and rear pads! But my what a delight driving it to work each day. Mpg wise I'm getting the exact same 44mpg in this than I got in my 2.2d Mazda 3 which is insane...mine has also had a stage 1 map 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Videos like these are what all car guys love to see
A very quick car and economical is the Audi A6 3.0 biturbo tdi. 315 bhp / 650 NM torque. O-60 4.9 seconds. Combined mpg 44 (50+ on motorway). Quattro 4 wheel drive. Plenty of 13-15 reg under £20,000. That’s the pick of the bunch for me along with a 335d / 435d. I have to have 4 doors. 2 doors do my head in.
Had the A7 bi turbo 65 plate had it for 3 years brilliant car but was Lucky to get 25 - 30mpg real world driving on motor way.. If you want the claimed mpg by manufacturers you need to be doing around 40 Mph on the motorway... Like I say brilliant car and really miss it but had to sell as was costing me a fortune not just fuel but tyres too being quattro and 21 inch wheels the weight of the car was eating the rubber for breakfast.
@@richardcollie2870what about lunch and dinner?
maybe you should consider how the current fuel economy cycle is WLTP - which is more realistic than the old one. This means that cars pre 2018 ish might have significantly higher listed fuel economy figues, compared to what they get in reality
got 410 miles range off £80 of diesel the other day in my A6 3.0 TDI V6 ... I used to get 600+ 😒
they sound so good with a resonator delete too! sounds like a gtr!
Fuel is fucking disgusting at the minute. Beyond a joke.
@@jarraandyftm got even worse since. Banking on Boris Johnson saving his skin by reducing it by 50p litre lol :D
435d good shout bro. Love the BMW diesels. I'm in a 2009 635d with stage 1 atm. It's a weapon
I've got a Focus mk3.5 st diesel, stage 3 from Pumaspeed giving 278 bhp and nearly 600nm.
47 mpg 650 miles on a full tank, on a long run I've had 62 mpg.
I just got a 435i after test driving the 435d, the d pulls better and has way better fuel economy but the sound of the i6 petrol makes the fuel worth it. I paid 90 quid for a tank of momentum and it got me 380 miles so isn't too bad
What mpg do you get from the 435i? I drive an older 125i (non turbo i6) and long journeys are great can get near 40mpg but anything stop start in town… closer to 20 😭🤣
@@bwdrives 28 average I do about half motorway half town/ragging it
20k £ | Cheap - pick one
The 435d is an animal. I have an Audi A5 3.0TDi Quattro with a stage 1, it’s 300hp with 40mpg. I love it and it’s a great daily 😍😍 it’s only about £5k worth but could probably only replace it with better for over £15k
how does it pull as 0-60 times and 100-200 times over youtube standard and stage 1 have put me off due to it being heavy asf, diesel and quattrro..? also what cars have you pulled against as I'm deciding between your car or 330/335d
@@ASHRZx 0-60 is 5.3 which is 0.6 faster than stock. Could probably do it quicker with more talent!
In-gear acceleration is fantastic though. I imagine a 335 would go much quicker with 4.8secs from the factory, if I had £20k to spare I’d get one. But at £5k it’s fantastic and looks better than anything else for the price in my opinion.
My fav type of vids 😁💯
Real world from a Golf R mk7.5 using higher octane fuel was 30mpg for me. That's with it mostly being in race mode, in the Aut/winter with PS4 tyres, and a heavy right foot. Funny because the Jaguar XE R-Sport AWD 180 it replaced, was also 30mpg average. Shows how good the R is.
I have a BMW 320d xdrive, I drive mostly around town, M25 and the M11, most of the time on the motorway’s I’m doing 60 mph that’s because there a lot of lorry’s overtaking other lorry’s at 1 mph more and in the fast lane there are van’s limited to 69 mph who won’t more over, not forgetting the average speed cameras, so my car is perfect and I get on the average over 50 mpg
It's not perfect it would do better mpg if it wasn't an xdrive that you never use.
Just on time with my search brackets .. thanks xD
Wish they sold the A45 in the US 😫😥 and the alfa romeo hatch 😭
None of these will do the economy claimed which is the old test figure. Reckon on about 10 less than quoted, 30ish for a golf R and 40ish for a 435 diesel which is extremely good for the power on offer. You might get the quoted combined figure on a run.
For example my golf 1.5t estate is supposed to do 43 under new system but 52 on old system. It does 42 overall, 37 in town and 53 on a run. I've seen over 60 if I keep my speed down to 65 on motorways. At 150bhp it seems to have plenty of oomph but then my previous car was a Leon ST 1.6tdi with just 115bhp. That was supposed to do 74mpg but really only did about 52 and 58 or so on a run.
As an A45 owner you will never ever see anywhere near 40mpg unless you are doing super long motorway journeys. Driving sensibly day to day more like 30mpg
Nice video. Could you do one for cars with off road capability for under 10k or another price?
Keep up the great work…👍🏾
Ayyy he listened, now to wait for 10k
Love my 7.5 R tunned
Got the same Golf R fear, JB! Looking to get one but the fact it’s such a target for car thieves has me reconsidering.
Got insurance for a reason mate, buy what you want and enjoy it!
@@samuraiz3406 How to wreck a no claims, also means insurance will be pricier and the payout is never enough to actually replace the car. Not to mention the inconvenience of legitimately having your car stolen.
It's definitely a factor, insurance doesn't just negate the issue...
Get a Ghost Immobiliser £450, no ones getting your car whatsoever then unless they tow it. Even then, they won't be able to start it
@@TristanBehrensmost people I know were able to upgrade their car after a write off/thief because they insurance paid out almost the full value or more
@@BIG2hats That's not something I've heard of, but good for them. Insurance companies are usually notoriously difficult to extract money from and generally underestimate the value of the car in payouts, at least in the experiences of most people I know and have spoken to.
I so nearly bought the 435d, went 640d in the end. They're about the same price and the 640d interior is 👌
I would suggest using Honest John's "real mpg" database when compiling these lists, I have found it to be very accurate. Much more so than manufacturers specs. For example I have just sold my giulietta qv as on my 115mile daily commute in and out of London it achieves only 30mpg, and this is 90% motorway driving. If it could achieve 40mpg as stated I would have kept it, as it is a very entertaining car IMO. I would suggest the Jaguar XE as a great car for fuel economy under £20k, I had one prior to the Giulietta.
Honest John is good, although I feel like people tend to post their stats if they're either pleasantly surprised or disappointed with their MPG. It also doesn't tell you how many submissions it's based on specifically for each version as far as I can spot, just the total per model.
For example, a 718 Cayman S is on there as getting 23.8mpg yet the GTS apparently gets 31.5mpg. To be honest for all the cars I've owned, I've found that if I drove them gently they invariably matched or beat the official figures. Of course, not driving cars gently ruins that- especially in anything with a turbo, more so than big NA engines, hence why a 981S has no trouble beating any 718 for economy (which I find just a little bit hilarious 😁).
@@ApothecaryTerry very true. Obviously driving style plays a bit part. It could be argued it would be a complete waste of time buying any car on this list to poodle around though. Given 90% of my daily commute is spent on the motorway, acceleration is almost irrelevant and in the current climate fuel economy takes priority. If driving at 70 on cruise control results in 30mpg then it's a no go for me.
@@owenwestgate1505 It's true that buying a fast car to drive slow doesn't make sense really, but cruising at 65-70 with music on is more fun than doing for me so I tend to value acceleration, handling and also MPG. I also value comfort at speed since my commute is also basically just motorway...I bought my 981CS in lockdown so I could just blast it around the west country instead of commuting 😁 It's (probably) going later this year though, since as of tomorrow I've got to go back 3 days a week.
Considering how many seriously fast cars get good economy, 30mpg on a motorway would put me off anything too- I'm disappointed if I can't get 40 on a run, 48.1 was my best over 90 miles - did 60 since I like a bit of prog and the album was longer than the journey otherwise!
The Alfa looks like an Astra to me. Is there a connection?
Good video man and idea.. expensive times at mo.. why oh why an unreliable BMW at number one🤔🙄😋
Lit idea 💡
BMW 435D, low mileage well cared for with an M sport pack is a stonker.
I can't walk past the care home down the road without staring at the RCZ-R in the car park. Easily my pick in this one! They apparently actually get the economy too. The 435d probably isn't that economical in terms of cost per mile with the price of diesel now sadly, I reckon that's actually the 4 series version to have.
Considering how many people are saying they don't get the figures from most of the cars in this video, I feel it's worth noting that the porker does 😄 Sure it costs a grand to get anything done, but the fuel is cheap 😂
JB fella; love your videos, you’re a great guy. But PLEASE stop with your over use of BMW’s. They feature in nearly every single one of your videos. It’s repetitive.
Great cas with GOOD fuel economy, but I'd not call that insane; a diesel Mk1 Yaris or 1.2l tdi Polo, there you see insane numbers🤣
How much torque for that 4 series??
I've got a BMW 330d e90 touring which averages around 35-40mpg and does 0-60 in 5.5 seconds (stage 2 remap). It cost me less than £4k and I would definetly recommend one!
What year?
Under 10k pls?
why not the golf 7 but GTD
Honda civic type r all day
Needed this for a while mate. I think you need to switch your focus to combine MPG with all your vids.
I'm lictrally considering A c6 corvette at the worst time, considering I daily a 2017 Camaro ss I pay a bit too much for fuel 😅
US or UK?
I'm sorry to hear that
40k+ here for a 435 where i live lol
Anything with a pd130 is a weapon and 50mpg
Golf R should not have made the list..It consumes so much fuel..There's nothing economical about them 😑😏
My 2016 Mini Cooper Auto JCW Convertible (which reluctantly I’m selling) gives me about 35-38mpg in town and around 50mpg on a run. Needless to say say my foot is never to the floor and even less so now with fuel costs, where I’m sure that there’s a permanent vacuum between my sole and the pedal! Hence the great economy!
Bought a m140i at Christmas it's a fuel money pit
Manufacturers mpg figures are an Absolute joke. zero chance of 50mpg out of the 335/435d. 35 is realistic. 330/430d non xdrive can return 40mpg all day long.
Yeah, I have no idea where they get their figures from, plucked out of thin air it seems. I've always relied on Honest John for more realistic MPG.
When I first got my 335d I was averaging around 44mpg. I drive a little less conservatively nowadays and get around 38. Longer journeys on the motorway will see you getting over 50mpg though
@@DanCro95 never once got over 50 in mine. My 25000 mile average was 34mpg. Was a 2017 335d.
@@markmahood2019 I have covered over 60000 in mine and it is a 2014, had it for many years now. I would say that on average since owning it I have had 40mpg so although it is a fair way off what bmw claimed, it is better than I was expecting
@@markmahood2019 you either have a lead foot, flat tyres, not reset the trip or you just can't drive for toffee.
I'm 23 , does anyone know which one of these would be cheapest to insure?
Get a M4 comp lad👍🏽
435d next family car then
Or a 335d for the extra doors....makes getting in and out of the rear so much easier. Just make sure you get one with folding rear seats if you go for used as it was an optional extra on older cars.
a golf r has horrible mpg when thrashing
What you'll save in fuel economy you'll get ripped off in maintenance on these cars lmao. Sad that you didnt have any japanese cars on this list who are at the top of fuel economy.
There's no way you're finding those cars for the prices you say. Even a quick browse will tell you that.
Link me an A45 for 17 grand
Damn I d be afraid to have a nice car in UK as they get stolen a lot
A bit of Googling tells me the UK is really not a bad place for car thefts at all. Depending on whose stats you trust, the rate is anything from 90-170 thefts per 100k people. For comparison: Italy, Sweden and France all have around 250 car thefts per 100k people.
I’m a man I need sound bro l, I’m tired of driving a diesel bmw 💀
Getting a 320d as my first car because university is a 2 hour motorway drive away. Then going to work on the weekends is another 30 minute motorway drive (store transfer) has pretty good fuel economy and will still drive fast without the massive insurance premiums since it's a 2.0 you will pay more than your standard 1 litre corsa shit box. But atleast it won't struggle on the motorways.
what quote have you manage to get on that?
@@dawudislam2106 2k if not slightly lower but i will have to check it again to make sure.
@@digitalclock That's not bad at all mate!
Im a Mercedes clk guy all day everyday
"Who doesn't want a fast estate"
Me. I don't like estates in general, but even more so the fast ones. Estates to me are "dad cars" meant so people can do ikea shopping and drop off their offspring at school, and having more than 220 bhp in a car like that doesn't seem reasonable to me. I know people have different tastes and many car enthusiasts are into that, but I'm not one of these guys.
I'm a dad of 3, have a R56 JCW mini, shop online and walk the kids to/from school. No estate car required.
There's a lot to be said for having a car that can make you smile while also being capable of dropping off a sofa. If you have kids / dogs / etc and budget for a single car it makes a lot of sense instead of running 2+ cars with different characteristics. Saab 9-5 HOT Aero, Audi RS6 Avant are some perfect examples of sensible monsters.
@@BlackLines. Yep, and you can easily sleep in the back as an alternative to camping/B&B.
Don't like fast estates must be a boring man, how can you not like an RS6? Mindboggling
@@KyleHudsonn I have a GTI mk7 and would go for a 981 after that. Call me boring all you want, I'm not into fast wagons still.
Great vid, my budget is £23k I think I’ll get a 2018 gti can anyone sway me to something better ?
My 2018 GTI was awesome! Make sure you get the DSG and maybe a Performance model if you can find one for that money. I reluctantly sold as there was £3500 equity in it. Also only get one if you plan to remap it as they're really underwhelming with the standard power. The remap brought it to life in my opinion.
140i is something to consider a whole different breed on the gti lol
140i has Shocking mpg lol
@@jamespalmer5209 says who?
INSANE fuel economy?
Now find me something I can build for under 10k
I'd go with...Lego 😂
@@ApothecaryTerry 🤣😂🤣😂
Yeah.. What you save in fuel money, who will lose with the mechanic in these pieces off shit..
Stop wearing that shirt or I will wear my Red Bull one!
Going by factory specifications is the worst thing you can do this video is just pointless
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That list kills, J.B., of course no Peugeot for the U.S. market, so sad. Love that little car, and that's the one BMW I might buy.