Thanks for outlining it super clearly! I've seen the anguish and struggles my colleagues have gone through with the IStructE trying to prepare for that monstrous exam! I will go down the ICE route so any more tips and advice is greatly welcome! Thanks, Sam
As an experienced professional engineer I would suggest to consider for the ice as it would give better chance in advancing your career later however if you are very interested in engineering and techniques the iStructE would be better choice it would take a whole career devotions into the engineering subjects. Thanks for sharing and best of luck for everyone into the engineering.
Hi, at 4:30 you mentioned that you would choose the iStructE route if you could choose again, is that because Structural Engineers around the world regard it with higher esteem... or is it another reason?
Thanks for the video with all the information. Just generally from my experience I can say that I.C.E. is much bigger than I.Struct.E. In my opinion I.C.E. has much better support systems for members, such as a much bigger Ben.fund. scheme. Also it is useful to know that the use of the title C.Eng. is governed by the Engineering Council not I.C.E. nor I.Struct.E., and you have to pay to stay registered with the Engineering Council to use the C.Eng. title whether you are chartered with I.C.E. or I.Struct.E. Well in the UK, I am not sure how it works in any other country.
I did both mine 35 years ago. I did Ice first - it’s all in the solid and prep. You can’t wing it - you have to be strategic and be aware of big picture. Site and design exp. IStructE second - it’s all experience. Bes is doing design & build bids for contractors because speed and intuition counts. Which is best? I have both now Fellow status and not sure it’s been an advantage to have one over the other. Those that get on are more the political communicators. However, when I review a design, if it was done by an IStructE, I am far more confident because I know nobody passes the exam unless they are good. You don’t find many IStructE bridge engineers though. Most have worked in commercial consultancy space as emphasis is on speed and VfM and they have designed everything and anything before they go for the exam. One more thing - you are respected abroad much more. The U.K. just don’t respect engineers and most in top jobs seem to apologise for being one. 😊
Instead I personally think IStructE is purely about thinking of a working structural scheme that works. ICE is about the theories and thinkings of organizing a site... etc.
Bro in kingston university london there is a course msc structural design and construction management with sustainability. It is accredited by institution of structural engineers. So it possible to to join istruct from this course as it is having both design and management together. Plz answer my question
I am currently finishing my BEng in Civil and Structural engineering and am not sure whether to get into more debt for a postgraduate master's in order to make becoming chartered easier, or whether to just go straight into industry.
Not an easy decision to make. I think there are methods of reducing the time it takes to get chartered now even if you don’t have a master as I think institutions are realising that a masters degree isn’t the be and end all. Have a look on the ICE and iStructe websites and see what they say about it.
Is it possible to go down the ice route nd then go down the istructe route as ideally I'd like to become chartered with both. I have graduated with a masters and have started working in procurement branch of roads and rivers. I have been told I'll need design and site experience before I go for either but have previously worked in sites as a labourer and my degree was tailored towards structures as well as doing the usual civil engineering subjects. I have been given both supervising civil engineer and delegated engineer although I haven't had much contact with either. I've been filling out my cpd and am up to 90 hours. Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated.
Yes you can go down both routes. If you get chartered with the ICE first, you will only need to sit the written exam for the istructe. You won’t need to do your ipd again or have the interview.
@@EverydayDazz what is the best way to prepare for both of the institutions examinations and is there a way to fast track it or is it just a case of biding your time till you have enough experience?
I would concentrate on one first. There’s no real need to get chartered with both, just bragging rights. Fill out your ipd regularly and get it signed off periodically too. If you rush your chartership, you might get torn apart in the interview. So make sure you know your stuff and don’t try and blag your way through. The istructe exam is hard so you want to prepare for that after you’ve done your ice exam. There are training courses that help you prepare for it so I suggest going to them. The exam is about time management and you should have a lot of experience of designing and scheming structures before you attempt it.
@@EverydayDazz so is there no benefit to having both charterships? I would have thought it would increase your chances of getting work and your salary potential. Thing is I'm more interested in structures than any other area of civil engineering but my company only does training agreements with ice. Ive been put into the department for infrastructure for roads and rivers and am unsure whether this will help me towards this goal. Eventually I want to be able to design stadiums and other structures like this. Is it possible to do that with just the ice chartership? Main issue I have is due to covid the company don't have much work for me and I'm struggling to get experience. I got into engineering late and this is my first engineering job at the age of 33 however I have watched loads of ice lectures and got as much learning experience as I can but am struggling to get the practical side done due to lack of work.
I mean it looks good to have both and it might boost your chances of landing a new job but I don’t think it’ll have a big impact on your salary vs having one. You can still design structures with ice chartership. Ice or istructe, it’s just a badge and letters after your name. Your project experience is way more important. If you want to do structures, it’s better to transition out of what you’re doing sooner rather than later. Covid has hit some companies hard, you can either stick it out and hope it improves or move on to a company that has the structural design projects and work you want to do.
@@EverydayDazz to be honest I think you made the right decision to become chartered with ice as it looks slightly easier but seems to take longer. And IStructE have MRA which means you don't need to take another professional review you only need to take the exam if you're already chartered with ice. So you wouldn't have to do the portfolio, ipd or the istructe interview as your already ice chartered.
Thanks for outlining it super clearly! I've seen the anguish and struggles my colleagues have gone through with the IStructE trying to prepare for that monstrous exam! I will go down the ICE route so any more tips and advice is greatly welcome! Thanks, Sam
Appreciate the comment! I do have some more ICE videos lined up but not prioritised them since I didn’t think many people watched it 😂
@@EverydayDazz Ah I know that struggle all too well! I for one would really appreciate it though :D
As an experienced professional engineer I would suggest to consider for the ice as it would give better chance in advancing your career later however if you are very interested in engineering and techniques the iStructE would be better choice it would take a whole career devotions into the engineering subjects. Thanks for sharing and best of luck for everyone into the engineering.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS INFO FROM VIDEO AND FROM YOUR REPLIES ON COMMENTS REALLY HELPFUL
IStructE is the ‘special forces’ of engineering institutions with an exam pass rate about the same as that of SAS selection! 😵💫😊
Get yourself a good mentor to get through whichever you do. Except for my first year, I never had one and that was 22 years ago!
Hii I have question 🙋♀️. I am from India looking for a job in overseas especially UK. Will this be useful for to get a job there?
Thanks for outlining,
Does Anyone have a sample of Initial Professional Development (IPD) report for istructe please?
I am a chartered engineer in Ghana , can I convert it to UK ICE ?
Hi, at 4:30 you mentioned that you would choose the iStructE route if you could choose again, is that because Structural Engineers around the world regard it with higher esteem... or is it another reason?
Just because istructe is more focused towards structural engineering
Thanks for the video with all the information. Just generally from my experience I can say that I.C.E. is much bigger than I.Struct.E. In my opinion I.C.E. has much better support systems for members, such as a much bigger Ben.fund. scheme. Also it is useful to know that the use of the title C.Eng. is governed by the Engineering Council not I.C.E. nor I.Struct.E., and you have to pay to stay registered with the Engineering Council to use the C.Eng. title whether you are chartered with I.C.E. or I.Struct.E. Well in the UK, I am not sure how it works in any other country.
I did both mine 35 years ago.
I did Ice first - it’s all in the solid and prep. You can’t wing it - you have to be strategic and be aware of big picture. Site and design exp.
IStructE second - it’s all experience. Bes is doing design & build bids for contractors because speed and intuition counts.
Which is best? I have both now Fellow status and not sure it’s been an advantage to have one over the other. Those that get on are more the political communicators.
However, when I review a design, if it was done by an IStructE, I am far more confident because I know nobody passes the exam unless they are good.
You don’t find many IStructE bridge engineers though. Most have worked in commercial consultancy space as emphasis is on speed and VfM and they have designed everything and anything before they go for the exam. One more thing - you are respected abroad much more. The U.K. just don’t respect engineers and most in top jobs seem to apologise for being one. 😊
Instead I personally think IStructE is purely about thinking of a working structural scheme that works. ICE is about the theories and thinkings of organizing a site... etc.
Thanks man
Bro in kingston university london there is a course msc structural design and construction management with sustainability. It is accredited by institution of structural engineers. So it possible to to join istruct from this course as it is having both design and management together. Plz answer my question
Thank you very clear and concise
Thanks for the information, really helped, please I'll like for you to mentor me for the Istructe route 🙏🏾
Hi, Does the DE need to be chartered?
Preferable but doesn’t have to be
@@EverydayDazz thank you, thanks for your videos too, they are very helpful.
I am a temporary work engineer.
I am wondering if I should go Ice or Istructe.
Probably ICE. Not 100% on this
@@EverydayDazz that's what I was thinking thank you for ur opinion
I am currently finishing my BEng in Civil and Structural engineering and am not sure whether to get into more debt for a postgraduate master's in order to make becoming chartered easier, or whether to just go straight into industry.
Not an easy decision to make. I think there are methods of reducing the time it takes to get chartered now even if you don’t have a master as I think institutions are realising that a masters degree isn’t the be and end all. Have a look on the ICE and iStructe websites and see what they say about it.
Get your MEng then ICE and then IStructE if you want to do design.
Is it possible to go down the ice route nd then go down the istructe route as ideally I'd like to become chartered with both. I have graduated with a masters and have started working in procurement branch of roads and rivers. I have been told I'll need design and site experience before I go for either but have previously worked in sites as a labourer and my degree was tailored towards structures as well as doing the usual civil engineering subjects. I have been given both supervising civil engineer and delegated engineer although I haven't had much contact with either. I've been filling out my cpd and am up to 90 hours. Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated.
Yes you can go down both routes. If you get chartered with the ICE first, you will only need to sit the written exam for the istructe. You won’t need to do your ipd again or have the interview.
@@EverydayDazz what is the best way to prepare for both of the institutions examinations and is there a way to fast track it or is it just a case of biding your time till you have enough experience?
I would concentrate on one first. There’s no real need to get chartered with both, just bragging rights.
Fill out your ipd regularly and get it signed off periodically too. If you rush your chartership, you might get torn apart in the interview. So make sure you know your stuff and don’t try and blag your way through.
The istructe exam is hard so you want to prepare for that after you’ve done your ice exam. There are training courses that help you prepare for it so I suggest going to them. The exam is about time management and you should have a lot of experience of designing and scheming structures before you attempt it.
@@EverydayDazz so is there no benefit to having both charterships? I would have thought it would increase your chances of getting work and your salary potential. Thing is I'm more interested in structures than any other area of civil engineering but my company only does training agreements with ice. Ive been put into the department for infrastructure for roads and rivers and am unsure whether this will help me towards this goal. Eventually I want to be able to design stadiums and other structures like this. Is it possible to do that with just the ice chartership? Main issue I have is due to covid the company don't have much work for me and I'm struggling to get experience. I got into engineering late and this is my first engineering job at the age of 33 however I have watched loads of ice lectures and got as much learning experience as I can but am struggling to get the practical side done due to lack of work.
I mean it looks good to have both and it might boost your chances of landing a new job but I don’t think it’ll have a big impact on your salary vs having one.
You can still design structures with ice chartership.
Ice or istructe, it’s just a badge and letters after your name. Your project experience is way more important.
If you want to do structures, it’s better to transition out of what you’re doing sooner rather than later.
Covid has hit some companies hard, you can either stick it out and hope it improves or move on to a company that has the structural design projects and work you want to do.
Also, I have seen engineers claim they are chartered from both institutions, is this possible?
You can be chartered with both
@@EverydayDazz to be honest I think you made the right decision to become chartered with ice as it looks slightly easier but seems to take longer. And IStructE have MRA which means you don't need to take another professional review you only need to take the exam if you're already chartered with ice. So you wouldn't have to do the portfolio, ipd or the istructe interview as your already ice chartered.
Thanks Alot
Doesn’t matter
I meet lot of “charted” engineers from ice / istructe which doesn’t have basic knowledge.
IStructE all the way. They are barely comparable in terms of difficulty.
ICE chartership takes forever and is utterly boring!