Great video. I’m in the same profession and have made similar mistakes. Great video and good advice. Got to keep Learning and continuing developing within the Structures world. Hope the ICE exam went well second time. Passed mine 7 years ago and you still can’t be expected to know everything even when Chartered.
Thanks! Currently studying mechanical engineering and getting my masters in structural engineering. Your videos help me get to know about real life work problems and experiences as a structural engineer :)
I’m always surprised how “big” problems to me are always easy fixes to my manager. Any chance of a video on timber framed housing and racking resistance in the future? Maybe sliding and overturning too.
Unfortunately in-house checking system is a joke in most of the companies in this industry. Amazing that managers and directors don't care about it considering that most of them expect engineers to do overtime which obviously increases chance of mistake exponentially.
I think you and the contractor handled the problem very well. As you observe, the contractors can be very experienced. It might have been worth discussing potential remedial options to see if they had any ideas that they wanted you to consider. I think your solution was great - because you were aware of what the architects were trying to acheive you instictively knew what constraints would apply to any remedial solution.You did the right thing telling your manager immediately. This allows them to protect you so that you can work on the remediation wihtout being bothered by less important matters; it also means they are ready to double-check your revised design. When you realise a serious mistake has been made, it is a shock, and you are in shock for a period. There is a risk of making another mistake when you are stressed in this fashion, so using your manager to check work, and if necessary communicate progress to the contractor is a great use of your manager.
Good video, very common problem. Yeah should have been reviewed at stage 3, 3+ and 4. Happens though. Load bearing beam supporting masonry, i'd be looking at least span/20. So 7m span ~ 356 UB or a 305 UC if ceiling heights are an issue.
Great story. I guess this was also not picked up in the peer review. Issue with reviews is that not one knows the building as well as the designer. Load paths can be overlooked. Given that the contractor observed massive deflection, did you check if the beams were overstressed and past yield? Given how quickly you came up with the new solution I assume I didn't have time to check or go on site to inspect. Also, It looks like the wall potentially was on that first floor too but potentially got removed and someone didn't check the beam? Luckily there was enough space in the ceiling for that new transfer beam to be installed. Good save...
Great video. I’m in the same profession and have made similar mistakes. Great video and good advice. Got to keep
Learning and continuing developing within the Structures world. Hope the ICE exam went well second time. Passed mine 7 years ago and you still can’t be expected to know everything even when Chartered.
Thanks! Currently studying mechanical engineering and getting my masters in structural engineering. Your videos help me get to know about real life work problems and experiences as a structural engineer :)
As an engineer, you want to sleep at night.
I’m always surprised how “big” problems to me are always easy fixes to my manager.
Any chance of a video on timber framed housing and racking resistance in the future? Maybe sliding and overturning too.
Unfortunately in-house checking system is a joke in most of the companies in this industry. Amazing that managers and directors don't care about it considering that most of them expect engineers to do overtime which obviously increases chance of mistake exponentially.
Absolutely spot on! Thanks for the insight! Very kind of the contractor willing to absorb the cost for the extra beam :)
I think you and the contractor handled the problem very well. As you observe, the contractors can be very experienced. It might have been worth discussing potential remedial options to see if they had any ideas that they wanted you to consider. I think your solution was great - because you were aware of what the architects were trying to acheive you instictively knew what constraints would apply to any remedial solution.You did the right thing telling your manager immediately. This allows them to protect you so that you can work on the remediation wihtout being bothered by less important matters; it also means they are ready to double-check your revised design. When you realise a serious mistake has been made, it is a shock, and you are in shock for a period. There is a risk of making another mistake when you are stressed in this fashion, so using your manager to check work, and if necessary communicate progress to the contractor is a great use of your manager.
Great story. Would love to have an engineer like you working on some of our sites! It's all about the communication!
Good video, very common problem. Yeah should have been reviewed at stage 3, 3+ and 4. Happens though. Load bearing beam supporting masonry, i'd be looking at least span/20. So 7m span ~ 356 UB or a 305 UC if ceiling heights are an issue.
Thank you for sharing!
Fair play mate 👌👌
Great story. I guess this was also not picked up in the peer review. Issue with reviews is that not one knows the building as well as the designer. Load paths can be overlooked.
Given that the contractor observed massive deflection, did you check if the beams were overstressed and past yield? Given how quickly you came up with the new solution I assume I didn't have time to check or go on site to inspect.
Also, It looks like the wall potentially was on that first floor too but potentially got removed and someone didn't check the beam? Luckily there was enough space in the ceiling for that new transfer beam to be installed. Good save...
Thanks for sharing your story. Maybe you can make a video discussing your process during design to double check your own work.
No double check by a peer? Trust but verify
Every engineer will make numerous mistakes! Trust me.
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