Enemy should be assaulting you immediatly after you blow missiles and stay on you with the zimmers. Instead he lets you run away for free allowing you to spam charge attacks
Part of the problem is that he's running quad leg shotgun for some reason, which is probably the worst leg option for that build because it has the worst horizontal mobility and ability to stick on targets. Wheelchair, fast RJ or fast bipedal are way more effective for this playstyle.
@@azzazin404I've been seeing this build pop up more often. The reason why he uses Quad legs is bc of the kick hitbox+tracking unfortunately for him, he still needs to be glued to the opponent but if done correctly they can stunlock very well
Definitely don't sleep on the first charge with the new Karasawa. It gets most of the benefit from an EN weapon boosting generator and charges so quick
bro why are there so many people hating, he crafted a build and played to its strengths and won, fun is subjective so this is as good as it gets objectively speaking
I think the plasma guns are a bit broken, especially the AOE charge up counteracts its weakness (slow projectile, leading to poor tracking) a bit too much. my most succesful build uses two plasma guns, laser shoulders on the speedy tracked legs, works like a charm.
@@Cmaximus7 My original reply got nuked somehow. Here's my build, for early game you won't have the Shade Eye, use the Nachtreiher head instead. i.imgur.com/qOcCtU0.png
As a person who ran into Missile boat 3 times. I would say the build is indeed very powerful. Especially if you don’t know how to approach them correctly. Now my feelings? This is the most disgustingly miserable and annoying build I’ve ever seen. If you’re having trouble with climbing altitude to get to the boat, use Assault Boost to gain vertical altitude then smash them son of a gun.
The opponent not know how to dodge? Love your use of assault boost too to keep distance from him. Been hard looking for actual good medium range players vs all the shotty/gatling spam.
@@liambowers9489he is, that's something in armored core that's called effective weapon range. There's no i-frame in this game so the best way to avoid damage is to keep out from enemies'effective range. Assault boost make it way easier for close range built to get close. That's why the current "meta" are shotgun or gatling gun. Mostly because nobody seems to use assault boost to run and keep distance. This guy seems to be the only one that i have watched to figure this out, so i say he's good lol.
@@liambowers9489it’s called playing to your strengths dude. What is he supposed to just let the other guy win? 😂 The other mech should have been on him the whole time with those shottys, otherwise they are useless.
I accidentally made a similar build to yous just to counter the Zimmers as well.... Dual Kurosawa, those fat legs, but instead i had shield on the left shouler while my right changes depending on the mood (Gatling/Plasma missile/10x missile) I play a bit more aggressively (but keep it mid range) by spamming the dual kurosawa (this usually takes out 50% of a lightweight heatlh ) than pop out the shield and keep the pressure with my right shoulder (Soup missile or gats) until my Kurosawa finish overheating then give em the good ole blue/purple death. Works 7/10 times from all 1v1 testing against zimmers, 3v3 is even better since pumping Kurosawa on a distracted AC does soo much damage.
these are the type of videos where people think that it is possible to backpeddal shotguns like that and the #1 advice they give is just kite them and shoot. The reality is you can do that if your against the person in the video, no disrespect but they are not using the zimms to the full potential and are not pressuring properly. If done so properly, there is very little you can do. The tetrapod frame is more than fine in playing dual or even quad shotguns. but they probably lack a good booster/gen setup to apply that pressure properly.
Guy used double zimmy a quad and idk what their back weapons are but man looking at their build they're aiming to do a double zimmy on the face to a quad kick combo, and guy whiffed a hell lot, didn't even see them tried to AB you constantly. Anyways, glad to see some mid range build coupled with some pretty smart play! edit: nvm they do AB'd kinda aggressively but got sawa'd right at the face and opted to play safely, or they just had a slow AB booster..
@@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532 Yeah, quad legs are just too slow for a shotgun build. Only way I could see it working would be using them as close defense while your mid/long range shoulder weapons do the work.
I knew it man, there was gonna be a fuckin meta to plague the game. I'm so glad that people are posting videos like this. Fuck a meta in AC, play something unique or fun.
@@CsStrezNo not even the SPRING CHICKEN legs can carry them unless you make some sacrifices with back weapons or your other frame parts. The lightest biped build I could manage with decent back weapons without using holding bay was with the TIAN QIANG legs, which is the lightest "heavy" weight biped legs.
wow this play style is extremely boring. might as well be a meta slave with double shotguns when that is atleast a fun style instead of running away till you win.
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Enemy should be assaulting you immediatly after you blow missiles and stay on you with the zimmers. Instead he lets you run away for free allowing you to spam charge attacks
Part of the problem is that he's running quad leg shotgun for some reason, which is probably the worst leg option for that build because it has the worst horizontal mobility and ability to stick on targets. Wheelchair, fast RJ or fast bipedal are way more effective for this playstyle.
It's harder when you're playing
@@azzazin404maybe fashion
@@azzazin404I've been seeing this build pop up more often. The reason why he uses Quad legs is bc of the kick hitbox+tracking unfortunately for him, he still needs to be glued to the opponent but if done correctly they can stunlock very well
Definitely don't sleep on the first charge with the new Karasawa. It gets most of the benefit from an EN weapon boosting generator and charges so quick
bro why are there so many people hating, he crafted a build and played to its strengths and won, fun is subjective so this is as good as it gets objectively speaking
Zimmer apes when they lose to a non zimmer build (it's clearly a boring build that takes no skill)
I think the plasma guns are a bit broken, especially the AOE charge up counteracts its weakness (slow projectile, leading to poor tracking) a bit too much.
my most succesful build uses two plasma guns, laser shoulders on the speedy tracked legs, works like a charm.
Plasma guns are strong but lose hard if you take to the air since there they *have* to actually hit you instead of just near you to get anything.
@@remigusker6024 charge them up
Here comes the Reddit shotgun users crying after saying it’s the most broken thing on earth.
@@Pittigpiertje eve with you extra beams it'll still miss in the air unless they're point blank or you're using a particularly slow build.
@@remigusker6024
Wrong
A gladiator like match wold be fun, only shields and swords
Ac4 had pvp with just dual swords. It was so hard to watch...... I love it
Need more of this. So the smooth brain Reddit users can stop saying the game doesn’t have varied pvp
I've been loving the shot/gatling match ups with my high speed missile boat set up. They can't hit me and I just orbit and rain nonstop missiles.
What parts you using? Im goin thru story with a lightweight missleboat rn but with prob basic parts.
@@Cmaximus7
My original reply got nuked somehow. Here's my build, for early game you won't have the Shade Eye, use the Nachtreiher head instead. i.imgur.com/qOcCtU0.png
As a person who ran into Missile boat 3 times. I would say the build is indeed very powerful. Especially if you don’t know how to approach them correctly.
Now my feelings? This is the most disgustingly miserable and annoying build I’ve ever seen. If you’re having trouble with climbing altitude to get to the boat, use Assault Boost to gain vertical altitude then smash them son of a gun.
The opponent not know how to dodge? Love your use of assault boost too to keep distance from him. Been hard looking for actual good medium range players vs all the shotty/gatling spam.
You really just watched that and think this guy is good for holding a charged weapon and backpedaling for 3 minutes?
@@liambowers9489he is, that's something in armored core that's called effective weapon range. There's no i-frame in this game so the best way to avoid damage is to keep out from enemies'effective range. Assault boost make it way easier for close range built to get close. That's why the current "meta" are shotgun or gatling gun. Mostly because nobody seems to use assault boost to run and keep distance. This guy seems to be the only one that i have watched to figure this out, so i say he's good lol.
It looks like the enemy is dodging, just that the shots are spaced out to "rollcatch" as soon as they come out of the qb
@@liambowers9489it’s called playing to your strengths dude. What is he supposed to just let the other guy win? 😂
The other mech should have been on him the whole time with those shottys, otherwise they are useless.
@@liambowers9489 he is doing something that every other player isn't. Playing defensively.
i'm surprised other guy didn't try to hover to avoid the plasma rifles and QB to dodge the missiles
I actually find that plasma tracking is really good at hitting hovering quad legs, not so much the other legs though
Exactly, he sucked.
I accidentally made a similar build to yous just to counter the Zimmers as well....
Dual Kurosawa, those fat legs, but instead i had shield on the left shouler while my right changes depending on the mood (Gatling/Plasma missile/10x missile)
I play a bit more aggressively (but keep it mid range) by spamming the dual kurosawa (this usually takes out 50% of a lightweight heatlh ) than pop out the shield and keep the pressure with my right shoulder (Soup missile or gats) until my Kurosawa finish overheating then give em the good ole blue/purple death.
Works 7/10 times from all 1v1 testing against zimmers, 3v3 is even better since pumping Kurosawa on a distracted AC does soo much damage.
The big legs crack me up. Looks like a toddler in huge sketchers 😂
these are the type of videos where people think that it is possible to backpeddal shotguns like that and the #1 advice they give is just kite them and shoot.
The reality is you can do that if your against the person in the video, no disrespect but they are not using the zimms to the full potential and are not pressuring properly. If done so properly, there is very little you can do.
The tetrapod frame is more than fine in playing dual or even quad shotguns. but they probably lack a good booster/gen setup to apply that pressure properly.
the only question i have after viewing this vid: w8 how you tea bag?
Move the control stick forward slightly and rapidly. It only really works with these legs since they hover instead of having a walk animation.
Guy used double zimmy a quad and idk what their back weapons are but man looking at their build they're aiming to do a double zimmy on the face to a quad kick combo, and guy whiffed a hell lot, didn't even see them tried to AB you constantly. Anyways, glad to see some mid range build coupled with some pretty smart play!
edit: nvm they do AB'd kinda aggressively but got sawa'd right at the face and opted to play safely, or they just had a slow AB booster..
Nice blue reverb emblem 👍
Really? Playing ranged with one of the strongest guns in the game? Come on man, at least give the other guy a CHANCE.
Nigga this ain't dark souls. We have guns for a reason
28 LASER WOUNDS, you didn't want to give him a chance, did you!?
Doesn't help homie wasn't even trying to close distance or dodge, or use a fast build with a close range weapon lmao
@@dr.richarddicknificentm.d.5532 Yeah, quad legs are just too slow for a shotgun build. Only way I could see it working would be using them as close defense while your mid/long range shoulder weapons do the work.
that ought to be annoying to fight
This type of player is why i run tank with dual stun needles and miniguns. Makes pvp ez
Shotgun quad should have been more aggro, keeping on the player with barrages of buckshot while switching back and forth between reloading shottys
I knew it man, there was gonna be a fuckin meta to plague the game. I'm so glad that people are posting videos like this. Fuck a meta in AC, play something unique or fun.
W plasma build
What FCS system are you using?
Quad legs with shotgun isn't very ideal as it is so slow. But props to using something different to take him on!
i tried an all EN shotgun , shotgun cannon on a tetra owO
very high comeback once you get close to your enemy Owo
My brother and I cant wait to duel each other :) you smoked em
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Wouldn't reverse joint be better for this playstyle
Karasawas weigh about 10k each, I simply can't use RJs
@@le-furioso Damn, even the heavy reverse joints can't carry them?
@@CsStrezNo not even the SPRING CHICKEN legs can carry them unless you make some sacrifices with back weapons or your other frame parts. The lightest biped build I could manage with decent back weapons without using holding bay was with the TIAN QIANG legs, which is the lightest "heavy" weight biped legs.
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I’d be so mad
That is difficult to do in a controller. Lol
whats the build on this
Karasawa😅...wait what, Karasawa's... 😢💀
tetrapod leg + shotgun 😅
What’s the shotgun?
Zimmerman
Meta counter.
Ook ook
wait
Why flexing this? Did you know laser shots are impossible to dodge due to ping being so high?
Im sorry but these rifles are such a nobrainer, that i wouldnt call a shotgun build ape.
he's the karasawa user
Zimmerman players are apes, they only have 2 brain cells left spinning around in their skull like a particle accelerator 😅
wow this play style is extremely boring. might as well be a meta slave with double shotguns when that is atleast a fun style instead of running away till you win.
Running away till he wins vs he stager combo you to death in 3 seconds
I don't know man, same thing to me.
zimmerman ape LMAO
but with this you get to use the karasawaaaaaaaa
Sure sounds like somebody is upset they get outranged lmao