How Speedrunners Bypassed the Death of Flash Games

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  • Опубликовано: 4 ноя 2024

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  • @Maximum
    @Maximum  3 года назад +214

    A Couple of Updates:
    1. We found a standalone version of flash that allows for the jump in level 10 to work, which is a very great outcome.
    2. A lot of people continue to be under the impression that flash games will be unplayable after 2020. This is obviously not true. Do whatever you can to spread the word about flashpoint! bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/

    • @steak9738
      @steak9738 3 года назад +6

      How come you never mentioned Ruffle in this video? It's a flash emulator. Is it really not as known about as I thought?

    • @iexist1300
      @iexist1300 3 года назад +5

      I'm using flashpoint while watching this video. It's so much better for mario 63 without all the lag, and full screen mode is cool even though it can be used to cheat some games like duck life.

    • @m3mcat7
      @m3mcat7 3 года назад +4

      old versions of browsers work, like the latest version of chrome supported by windows xp and vista.

    • @Histgyph
      @Histgyph 3 года назад +2

      I tried opening the standalone flash from the swj file using multiple methods, but none of them worked, can you make a tutorial on how to do that now that flash isn’t being supported?

    • @g.s.495
      @g.s.495 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for saving my childhood from dying (Flashpoint is cool, man, even in 2022)!

  • @natlemonyfam4637
    @natlemonyfam4637 3 года назад +242

    Everybody Gangsta till fireboy and watergirl touch the green water.

  • @Grane1234
    @Grane1234 3 года назад +61

    Man, Super Mario 63 was and still is one of my favourite flash games, among many

    • @mimple6497
      @mimple6497 3 года назад +1

      and Rolling Hero

    • @stormy_does_stuff
      @stormy_does_stuff 3 года назад +2

      And Papa's games

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 3 года назад +1

      At the time, it was my favorite with Run 2 and Fireboy and Watergirl as #2 and #3

    • @AustynL
      @AustynL 2 года назад +1

      Snow Tale is so flippin' underrated, man! It's such a good game.

    • @Monkeymario.
      @Monkeymario. 3 месяца назад +1

      i didnt hear about sm63 until recently after flash desth but i really like it! :D

  • @bestberry7332
    @bestberry7332 3 года назад +105

    So Nitrome is slowly transferring their games to the HTML5 part of their website, which basically runs an HTML5 emulator for flash. I assume they'll all end up there eventually. Great video btw!

    • @mariosin3256
      @mariosin3256 2 года назад +5

      The only Nitrome game/s I can remember off the top of my head are the Bad Ice Cream series.

  • @MeesterTweester
    @MeesterTweester 4 года назад +72

    I am a very passionate Flash runner. While the mainstream eye might be turned away after 2020, I hope the speedrunning scene for them lives much longer afterwards. The future in uncertain but I hope we can use some sort of old browser version in the future. I have a lot of the same ideas as said in your video.
    Also I recognize you from us both running Zero Deaths!

    • @BowserStrikesEverywhere
      @BowserStrikesEverywhere 4 года назад +1

      Zero deaths gang

    • @futurama3939
      @futurama3939 3 года назад +3

      oh hey meester, didn't expect to see ya here. Anyways yeah we runnin 5b on d a projectors pog.

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester 3 года назад +1

      Futurama 39 Yeah :)

    • @papaspoon1550
      @papaspoon1550 Год назад +1

      Well its been a little over 2 years and many flash games (especially speedrunning ones) still have a speedrunning scene, some games even got a bigger player base because of flash going away, as it gave attention to flash games again, and us early late 90's - early 2k's wanted to feel nostalgia before it was terminated.
      I almost feel bad for zoomers, they'll never get to experience the joy of flash.

    • @MeesterTweester
      @MeesterTweester Год назад

      @@papaspoon1550 For sure

  • @otherlego
    @otherlego 3 года назад +33

    "Jank Browser" is Opera: HOW DARE Y-
    Bopera: I see nothing wrong with that.

  • @Vertic03
    @Vertic03 4 года назад +27

    That's some high quality content you're producing

  • @SOOWOOGEE
    @SOOWOOGEE 3 года назад +15

    How does this video not get much attention? You earned a subscribe from me, bud!

    • @SOOWOOGEE
      @SOOWOOGEE 3 года назад

      uuuu i think i just became a og??????

  • @Gerbungis_1
    @Gerbungis_1 4 года назад +78

    Finally. A person of class, you showed a clip of blooms td 3

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +27

      wait WTF i didn't do that
      ok maybe i did

    • @sire_kirbz
      @sire_kirbz 3 года назад +2

      @Miloš Đošić why did i find a random learn 2 fly guy?

    • @sire_kirbz
      @sire_kirbz 3 года назад +2

      @Miloš Đošić agree

    • @Xnoob545
      @Xnoob545 3 года назад

      @@Maximum can i play red ball on mobile

  • @harlos_is_cool3641
    @harlos_is_cool3641 4 года назад +35

    2020 has gone to far

  • @kfoley275
    @kfoley275 4 года назад +29

    Just as a sidenote, Newgrounds has a flash player that lets you not only play swf files you have downloaded, but also the files on the site itself.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +9

      Good to know!

    • @crypticpoke6805
      @crypticpoke6805 4 года назад +1

      Thank god I can still play Super Mario 63 after December

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor 4 года назад +4

      @@Maximum And they're planning to make a freeware browser plugin of it as well as possibly releasing it to other flash game sites to implement locally.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 года назад +4

      @@Shalakor That's I think Ruffle, which is completely separate aside from the fact that Newgrounds supports it.

  • @GMPranav
    @GMPranav 3 года назад +8

    I have always used the Flash player projector for playing flash games offline. Its really great.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 года назад

      Newer versions have the same killswitch as browser Flash.

    • @GMPranav
      @GMPranav 3 года назад

      @@cst1229 Use old version then lol.

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 года назад

      @@GMPranav Yeah i know.

  • @owls.
    @owls. 4 года назад +14

    in my opinion,
    it's most likely when people started playing Fortnite, since over 70% of ppl were playing flash in 2017, and only 17% played flash in 2019.

  • @Randomno2
    @Randomno2 4 года назад +14

    I want to point out that Club Penguin speedrunning is still active, but not on the original leaderboards. Since Club Penguin was such a big game no private server can perfectly recreate it which is part of the reason to leave the old leaderboard as it is. As you mention, accurately running games may become an issue in the future. Some alternative Flash players may never be completely reliable.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +6

      I am aware of this, however there wasn't a necessity to include it in this particular video.

  • @wsabcha
    @wsabcha 4 года назад +11

    i like the part where you talked about flash. really epic. nice video.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +10

      hmm i dont really remember that part but thanks anyways

  • @Raylightsen
    @Raylightsen 4 года назад +3

    Amazing intro.
    Like everyone is daily watching news about flash games.

  • @ShellShocked78-g3x
    @ShellShocked78-g3x 2 года назад +4

    One of my favourite and first flash games was Zombotron. Which was made into a proper full on steam game. The only thing bad about it is the ending.

  • @Mr.Carrot
    @Mr.Carrot 3 года назад +5

    apparently y8 has it's own browser that supports flash.
    I don't know how many games it will support but when I searched a random flash game but it said to download it, and it is a way to play flash games on a browser in 2021
    edit: the basilisk browser that flashpoint uses also supports flash.

  • @Dolphin002
    @Dolphin002 3 года назад +12

    Fun fact: You can still play Flash games if you change your PC's date to anything before January 12

    • @Piopollo
      @Piopollo 3 года назад +4

      Until a certain point, since some pages stop running correctly if you change the date too much.

    • @futurama3939
      @futurama3939 3 года назад +1

      while yes there's a time window to this, do it too after some time and you get SSL Certificates expiring and the browser not wanting to connect, however the more pressing thing is that browsers are forcibly disabling flash. Firefox looks to do so in version 85, Jan 26th. And chromium-base (Chrome, Opera, Edge et al.) Look to have disabled flash support now with Chrome 88 being merged into stable on the 19th. Any chromium-based browsers if not now will remove flash support in the next immediate chromium update.

    • @AvoxionYT
      @AvoxionYT 3 года назад +1

      From personal experience, if you had disabled Windows updates beforehand it will work too. And if it's too late, just look up Ruffle, it's an extension that lets you run flash.

    • @TheGaming100
      @TheGaming100 2 года назад +1

      I change the date at all and the entire browser fails to run lol

  • @MatthewGhirardi
    @MatthewGhirardi 3 месяца назад +1

    The nitrome game I’ve played as a kid is Skywire and the sequel

  • @archived1573
    @archived1573 3 года назад +39

    Adobe: Flash speedrunning will become dead
    EazySpeezy: We'll see about that

  • @wsabcha
    @wsabcha 4 года назад +21

    I like the part when you said "editing pee code" haha. pee.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +8

      ITS P-CODE WILLIAM

    • @wsabcha
      @wsabcha 4 года назад +9

      ItsMaximum hehe pee.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +10

      @@wsabcha >:(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( not funy

    • @bnmc
      @bnmc 4 года назад +5

      @@Maximum yes funy very funy maximum its

    • @ckqk
      @ckqk 3 года назад

      stop shaggy hair guy not funni 😠 also you said the letter a that is in among us game so u sayd sus letter 😳

  • @dabasil
    @dabasil 3 года назад +11

    Flash sacrificed itself to end 2020's disaster, F's in the chat bois

  • @cst1229
    @cst1229 3 года назад +3

    That osu sbubby at 3:34 tho

  • @anti79
    @anti79 3 года назад +5

    I still remember when it was called Macromedia Flash..

  • @Motorjam
    @Motorjam 4 года назад +45

    10:08 me irl

    • @bnmc
      @bnmc 4 года назад +4

      same widepeepoSad

  • @Livestreamlurker
    @Livestreamlurker 3 года назад +5

    2:29 why does former world chess champion Anatoly Karpov want my data?

  • @Remyria
    @Remyria 3 года назад

    3:35 osuHOW
    also, I'm so glad I stumbled across your video, I thought I would never be able to play these flash games

  • @singles3rvingjack
    @singles3rvingjack 3 года назад +4

    Dawn of the FINAL DAY (6 Hours Remain)

  • @acid4096
    @acid4096 2 года назад

    THANK YOU. I CAN FINALLY RELIVE MY GOLDEN YEARS.

  • @CirclesnSquares4990
    @CirclesnSquares4990 4 года назад +2

    Who else used to remember other flash game website adds in a flash game website

  • @m_rissspeedruns1231
    @m_rissspeedruns1231 3 года назад +10

    I’ve recently been wondering if runs done on flashpoint would be allowed onto any flash game leaderboard

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 года назад +5

      Probably yes because they're just standalone flash player runs basically.

  • @phantom-chan2940
    @phantom-chan2940 3 года назад +1

    the run this time button on crome makes flash playable

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. 3 месяца назад +1

    1:33 i have that! :D

  • @KoalaBread
    @KoalaBread 3 года назад

    max changed the title and thumbnail thinking we wouldnt notice

  • @ricape7160
    @ricape7160 4 года назад +5

    Good video :)

  • @firname395
    @firname395 4 года назад

    Please do more videos like this it was interesting

  • @uzlkav6218
    @uzlkav6218 Год назад +1

    you have to enable editing in config to see that button

  • @TuxerTuxar
    @TuxerTuxar 4 года назад +2

    No more Riddle School?
    Jonbro:NO. DOWNLOAD IT ON GAMEJOLT

  • @frozenpeak1524
    @frozenpeak1524 3 года назад +3

    you left out my boi run 1

  • @BFDIDavidFan69
    @BFDIDavidFan69 3 года назад +1

    Some of my school laptops have the old Microsoft website and it works

  • @jakemadison207
    @jakemadison207 3 года назад +2

    I've played mobility on cool math and on one level I think I have opimised it so much that my best is 15 seconds flat.

  • @AliceDevil7490
    @AliceDevil7490 4 года назад +2

    The real question is will the games on comdotgames survive this purge

  • @IamnotKarkinos
    @IamnotKarkinos 3 года назад +1

    just doing some kingdom rush speedruns on standalone flash, cause the premium content (which has a massive timesave help) cannot be purchased anymore and flashpoint hasnt added it yet (also Ironhide doesnt care about the flash version anymore, so isnt a issue)

  • @Cerise__
    @Cerise__ 3 года назад +4

    If you dont Miss Flash...
    Dont talk to me

  • @haronka
    @haronka 3 года назад +3

    What can you do with games that are like Red Ball and contain URL-check?

  • @arthurgroll4906
    @arthurgroll4906 10 месяцев назад

    Seeing the code I remember back then when I used to edit Terraria's opcodes in Cheat Engine 💀

  • @kisaragi-hiu
    @kisaragi-hiu 3 года назад +1

    Nitrome could just sell their classics on Steam and bring in a fuck ton of money that way. I don't think they understand how widespread their games were. I don't even remember their name, but their intro was immediately recognizable. (I'm pretty sure being based on Flash does not disqualify a game from being sold on Steam, right?)

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  3 года назад +4

      Similar to Nintendo, Nitrome clearly doesn't like easy money.

    • @macrro
      @macrro 2 года назад

      @@Maximum they like the hard way huh?

  • @unseengamer6464
    @unseengamer6464 3 года назад +1

    When I can't open flashpoint because it isn't suppported on chromeOS
    *cries myself to sleep*

    • @vistaman1
      @vistaman1 3 года назад

      use ruffle

    • @jedecilos322
      @jedecilos322 Год назад

      @@vistaman1 Ruffle is just a worse version of flashpoint because it can’t support actionscript 3.

  • @tekno679
    @tekno679 3 года назад

    flashpoint runs even on linux, it's amazing!

  • @user-fp3mn3dw7x
    @user-fp3mn3dw7x 3 года назад

    There are still some Chinese browsers that are based on chromium supporting flash and some Chinese flash based online game still running

  • @werlesonalencar2330
    @werlesonalencar2330 3 года назад +1

    Dude! I didin't understand the Nitrome part. Do you have a video about this?

  • @littlebigjared
    @littlebigjared 3 года назад +3

    Anyone remember playing Penguin Diner?

  • @divingboardlord
    @divingboardlord 3 года назад +3

    ahh yes. i will not be using this entertainment that i just saw to play nitrome games on flashpoint

  • @krakios3950
    @krakios3950 3 года назад

    When you find the video too late and Flashpoint is too big to have on your computer

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  3 года назад +1

      Flashpoint Infinity takes up less than a gigabyte

  • @fragmister
    @fragmister 3 года назад

    I don't know about you but, flash runs flawlessly on Firefox for me?
    Also @ItsMaximum, where do you think you could find the best version of Red Ball 4 for pc?

  • @Mr.Carrot
    @Mr.Carrot 3 года назад +1

    would it be possible to play nitrome games on flashpoint today?

  • @makemaggaraaagd6820
    @makemaggaraaagd6820 3 года назад +2

    Or just use SuperNova Player. It is safe and on kongregate

  • @st1nkypoofart
    @st1nkypoofart 4 года назад +1

    thanks

  • @fyran6453
    @fyran6453 8 месяцев назад

    I'm glad flash games returned avaible

  • @oakleyblade9400
    @oakleyblade9400 3 года назад +1

    only 5,000 views? jeesh. ur high quality lol

  • @redmax8734
    @redmax8734 Год назад +1

    right

  • @springbertstudios7005
    @springbertstudios7005 3 года назад

    You must not have heard of riffle riffle is a emulator of Flash that's one way it can be played along with the new grounds player

  • @ectongamer
    @ectongamer 3 года назад +1

    Wait If those browser won't open Flash, HOW ABOUT MY BROWSER BRAVE, I Don't want Flash Player to me Gone, God Help us Please :(, Were going to miss you flash

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  3 года назад +2

      Eventually ruffle, a flash emulator, will release, which will allow for web play. Search it up on github.

    • @ectongamer
      @ectongamer 3 года назад +1

      @@Maximum Btw when you download flash games will it still be deleted?

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 года назад +1

      @@ectongamer No because of course, you have the file.

  • @blockyooghofficial
    @blockyooghofficial 3 года назад

    well i mean i saw this guy speedrun redball so i trust him

  • @terraanber5984
    @terraanber5984 3 года назад

    Is double edged nitrome? Cuz it's my favourite flash game

  • @Jommo213
    @Jommo213 Год назад

    The only reason I didn't know about Flash's death is because I didn't know what Flash was lol.

  • @drim3945
    @drim3945 3 года назад +1

    oh no, how i can't get .swf after a blocking flash?

  • @asiancynical4682
    @asiancynical4682 4 года назад +2

    You can speedrun club pengeuin?
    I wanna join

  • @arttukettunen5757
    @arttukettunen5757 3 года назад +2

    It didn't die in 2020
    It died in 2021

  • @marissasalalila4755
    @marissasalalila4755 4 года назад +1

    In asia flash is still available but its much slower than before

  • @tylert528
    @tylert528 3 года назад

    me when i see that the terraria fargo's souls mod (without the dlc because echdeath) is possible: 3:35

  • @biygas
    @biygas 4 года назад +1

    camp lazlo paintcan panic speedrun any% 0:04 seconds

  • @smileguy9527
    @smileguy9527 4 года назад +1

    My opera still has flash...

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  4 года назад +1

      It will likely not be that way for too much longer

    • @smileguy9527
      @smileguy9527 4 года назад +1

      @@Maximum Oh shi-

  • @virtualrealitea
    @virtualrealitea 3 года назад +1

    When you can't open Flashpoint launcher because it's not supported on macOS...
    **cries**

    • @ericlove3109
      @ericlove3109 3 года назад

      you can bluemaxima.org/flashpoint/datahub/Mac_Support

  • @astrofish6163
    @astrofish6163 3 года назад +1

    can someone go through what he did to play that nitrome game? I wanna play final ninja

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  3 года назад +1

      join the nitrome speedrunning discord www.speedrun.com/skywire2/thread/s0ama

    • @astrofish6163
      @astrofish6163 3 года назад +1

      @@Maximum love you man thanks

  • @Afdusrt
    @Afdusrt 3 года назад +2

    flash player roms

  • @bitcoin-investment
    @bitcoin-investment Год назад

    How do you do the HTML method with red ball in google?

  • @IGNACY-fp8zo
    @IGNACY-fp8zo 3 года назад

    Would an old version of a browser still run flash?

  • @darkfox_
    @darkfox_ 4 года назад +2

    gaming

  • @EpochIsEpic
    @EpochIsEpic 3 года назад +1

    Unexpected osu!

  • @blazeroberts6360
    @blazeroberts6360 4 года назад

    Y'all remember primary games

  • @NoobNoobowichanskiy
    @NoobNoobowichanskiy Год назад

    Now we have a Ruffle!

  • @Justanormalperson621
    @Justanormalperson621 7 месяцев назад

    2:28 w a i t w h a -

  • @SAD1F
    @SAD1F 3 года назад +1

    I miss zombotron :/

  • @drippymissouri
    @drippymissouri 3 года назад

    You forgot about coolmath games

  • @Thiscooldude123
    @Thiscooldude123 3 года назад

    imma spend my time playing papa freezeria

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. 3 месяца назад +1

    0:20 but i reinstalled them (well actuaky its ruffle)

  • @jomogaming2
    @jomogaming2 3 года назад

    News Flash! (heh)
    Commenting in May 2021. You can't download the standalone Flash player anymore. I was luckily able to download and play Super Mario 63 by other means, but it still sucks.

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  3 года назад +2

      You can still find the newest one at www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/debug_downloads.html

    • @jomogaming2
      @jomogaming2 3 года назад

      @@Maximum oh, thank you

  • @meditor0181
    @meditor0181 3 года назад +1

    5:46 are you typing a bad word
    ??????????? What the F

    • @punu3675
      @punu3675 3 года назад +1

      Why does it matter unless you're like 4.

  • @ABCARWGFtoC
    @ABCARWGFtoC 3 года назад +1

    3:45

  • @cyan_studio7051
    @cyan_studio7051 3 года назад

    Flash player crashed guys this is so sad

  • @iociveteres
    @iociveteres 3 года назад +1

    Anatoli is not the person who gets your data now, it's Gavrilo. You should get newer information about russian real politics!

  • @danilostahl8178
    @danilostahl8178 Год назад

    im so dumb I literally can't download it

  • @kales901
    @kales901 2 года назад

    i cant open the app

  • @bIahaj._.
    @bIahaj._. 3 года назад

    Flash games are playable

  • @panglyphs2685
    @panglyphs2685 3 года назад

    I didn’t know flash point existed so bye

  • @Bluey
    @Bluey 2 года назад

    not to mention Newgrounds Player

    • @Maximum
      @Maximum  2 года назад

      the newgrounds player is just a worse version of the official flash standalone player

  • @God-qj7jl
    @God-qj7jl 2 года назад

    Thank injectors

  • @AkaObbies
    @AkaObbies 3 года назад

    osu!how