"What aircraft carrier in history ever got sunk as a result of being set on fire" got me cracked 🤣 I remember this match, it was pretty intense and it showed that damage is not what you need to win the game, but I don't advise trying it at home with teammates you get nowadays xD Thank you for featuring another one of my replays old...son 😝
I don't ever remember seeing anyone totally play the map and the Yorktown excursion came from the Force (you watching that map). Sit down and rest awhile.
To be fair, not until recent did russians have much, if any, experience with their ships catching fire during war. The Pacific losses aren't discussed and the Western fleets were perfect able to float in harbor during WW2.
Well done. Wish WG would skew the rewards so that players were forced to support map/cap control instead of hoping to avoid the initial exchanges and farm later in the game. I realize subs have changed the dynamic but even you were left to your own devices when fighting for the most important zones of the map. At least your CV pitched in.
My wot nickname is martinelli17, because my last name is martinelli and i was 17 when i started playing the game and by consequence watch jingles and quickybabe. I'm turning 29 this year...
Hello, Mr. Jingles. In the year of our Lord 2020, I met, on a trip to Wyoming, a US Navy Veteran who served on the Mahan during the American, Korean conflict. He called it the, "Ma-Hawn" F.Y.I. for future reference. He is in his 90s now, hunts Elk annually, and was a neat person. We floated down the famous Plattes River , me in a Kayak and him in an inner-tube. Cheers
I just warmed up dinner after pulling a 10 hr shift and setting the Monday sales record at the bar where I work - a challenging and tiring day. A little Jingles is just what I needed. Cheers!
"Mahan", named after Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan, has 2 common pronunciations: The arguably correct way to say it in English is "May-en/May-han", however, American dialects are as diverse as the people, so English loses "compatibility" as you cross county lines, let alone state lines... So, "Muh-hawn/Ma-hawn" are also common, yet moreso in Southern states or traditionally more rural ones, i.e. the central Mountain states (Wyoming, Dakotas, Montana, etc).
I've never understood why Benson gets so much stick. I love it. Sure, it HP pool is quite weak, but the guns are pretty good, especially once you get used to the ballistics, the torps are slow but are fairly stealthy and the ships concealment is superb. It's even pretty fast. It's a really good balance of guns and torps. The first time I played the US DDs, Benson was the moment the line clicked with me. In fact, in terms of Tech Line US DDs, only Fletcher and the Clemson (Which is SO over powered for T4!!) are more fun. Of course Flambass gave us a masterclass in DD play. Always on the objective, always aware.
i play the mahan quite regularly in operations and in that she's quite good as her torps mean that you always torps available as she has one midline and one torp tubes either side for three and with the benson torps is good for setting up torp runs.
For me having grinded every dd line to at least Tier 8. Most of the dd lines see a decent jump going into T8. Benson seems more a slight upgrade. But I think it is because you can finally stealth torp so you feel like you can be more impactful but since it's torps are so trash and then the Fletcher's torps are so much better it feels like a massive let down. But personally I think the US DD line is the ideal DD line to learn DD play.
I think it's because people still try to play Benson et al as gunboats, when realistically they've been pushed into more of a torpedo boat role. I gave up building for guns on Benson, Fletcher and Gearing and built for torpedoes instead, and had much more success with each of them.
I would say that MM was great for DD's especially Benson. No radar means easy approach and opposing CV spotting was rather ... not efficient in disabling Flam activities anyway.
I give props to that CV, he outplayed the red CV by a fair margin - particularly early play that permitted the double-cap at the start. I think you're also selling the Mahan short - I mean, if you want to call it terrible, take a look at the detectability difference between, say, the Jervis and the Lightning. That's like night and day.
I mean, the problem with most T7 DDs is they don't have access to the 5th equipment slot and that concealment system upgrade. The Mahan's base detection is only 250m more than the Benson. But it lacks that slot, so ends up a lot worse. Destroyer concealment tends to climb up to 7, then drop again from 8. Which makes T7 DDs in general the worst concealed for their line. Then they go up against stealthy T8 DDs, and T8 &9 radar.
I love seeing good play like this. Where jingles extols the good play and clever tactics and not some multi platoon players in obviously over power ships
Flambass has also noted on several occasions that CV's were supposedly modified so that they could no longer "cross drop" torpedoes... which you can clearly see happening here.
Small quibble about the Mahan's stealth: its base stealth is exactly the same as Benson's. The problem is that it doesn't get access to the stealth module that Benson can mount at tier 8. Also, its torpedo launchers feature one fewer tube apiece, and the upgraded torpedoes don't do nearly as much damage. The Benson's torpedoes are the same speed and have the same range, but they do something like 5k more damage when upgraded, which makes them slow but relatively lethal.
Play the objective. Damn, what, pay attention to the game and what you're supposed to do? Madness. Why would you play the objective? I'm new to Tanks [Jingles' other videos] but I try to apply what I've watched over the last several years. So, I play the objectives and promptly get my ass handed to me as the rest of the team "Lemming Trains" off into the sunset and dies. Then I'm stuck knowing there are 8 unspotted tanks hunting me so I kiss my ass goodbye. Here is a great, instructive video, a master class, and yet, no-one seems to bring that to the actual game. Thanks "son", and I am old enough to say that, for the lesson. I'll keep playing the objectives in the forlorn hope that in one game will pay off.
I don't claim to be well versed in WarGames lore, but I was reminded of Mr. T. when I heard the working and the tempo of the Captain comments. Of course the voice is wrong.
5:57 Well, the Saipan/Sanzang are probably the only exceptions to that. Pretty easy to run out of aircraft with them if there’s more than a couple strong AA ships in the match.
53 Jingles? Like me you belong in a museum “Son” 😂 turning 60 this year. Equipment I maintained whilst in the Navy is now on display at the Australian War Memorial museum 😳
There's always a sense of surprise when I open up on the enemy with my Shima guns. Especially DDs. I come in blazing and they freeze trying to digest the need to evade my guns as well as my soon to arrive torp wall of skill. lol
I have been watching you nearly half my life but I only now realize you are actually younger than my dad. This is funny because at exactly your age my dad had another kid.
Akatsuki, Kagero, Yugumo, Shimakaze… Jingles oh Jingles. I’ve sent you a number of replays with those ships utilizing my guns to prove that we’re not all obligate torpedovores. 😂
The Mahan does have pretty bad stealth, but it has a monstrous DPM advantage over other destroyers in its tier. That alone makes it pretty good in my eyes.
Speaking of captains, my disappointment knows no bounds that I can't have a jingles captain on any other ships but for the Royal Navy. They need to have multi-national jingles captains like john maclain.
"Worlds Most Annoying Ship Captain"...hmm. there's another one, that when you sink a battleship, says "We sank a friendly destroyer!" and identifies incoming torpedoes as "Enemy Submarine spotted!" That one is the most annoying to me! (I jest, I love my Jingles captain!)
Honestly, The Mahan is a good ship. She has been power-crept by newer ships and the other destroyers in the line are more popular. The Clemson is OP, the Nicholas is decent, the Farragut is loved for some unknown reason, the Benson is really good, the Fletcher is the crown jewel of the line and the Gearing is Ok. I don't know why people crap on the Mahan, learn to play that ship well and you will have the skills to make the following ships terrors of the seven seas. #StopMahanHate
Yet- I still prefer to do battle in my Mahann with it's 3 torpedo launchers over the Bensons 2. I seem to score way more kills in the enemies I get put against, but as always- your mileage may vary!
Hey Jingles. Have you ever thought about featuring WOWS Legends videos on the channel? Some of us have some pretty astounding videos for you that would make great material
"What aircraft carrier in history ever got sunk as a result of being set on fire" got me cracked 🤣
I remember this match, it was pretty intense and it showed that damage is not what you need to win the game, but I don't advise trying it at home with teammates you get nowadays xD
Thank you for featuring another one of my replays old...son 😝
I don't ever remember seeing anyone totally play the map and the Yorktown excursion came from the Force (you watching that map). Sit down and rest awhile.
Old man Flambass and Jingles the Kid
To be fair, not until recent did russians have much, if any, experience with their ships catching fire during war. The Pacific losses aren't discussed and the Western fleets were perfect able to float in harbor during WW2.
Well done. Wish WG would skew the rewards so that players were forced to support map/cap control instead of hoping to avoid the initial exchanges and farm later in the game. I realize subs have changed the dynamic but even you were left to your own devices when fighting for the most important zones of the map. At least your CV pitched in.
The joke about being called son made me realize I’ve been watching jingles since I was about 12, im going on 22 now…
Same :D
Lol I'm 55 in April but probably the same length of time 'son' 😂
Bro same I remember the Bohemian Eagle days
Happen
My wot nickname is martinelli17, because my last name is martinelli and i was 17 when i started playing the game and by consequence watch jingles and quickybabe. I'm turning 29 this year...
0:45 _The world's most annoying ship captain_
You give up your position _that_ easily? I'd expected more of you, sir!
The Vtuber commanders in question:
Hello, Mr. Jingles. In the year of our Lord 2020, I met, on a trip to Wyoming, a US Navy Veteran who served on the Mahan during the American, Korean conflict. He called it the, "Ma-Hawn" F.Y.I. for future reference. He is in his 90s now, hunts Elk annually, and was a neat person. We floated down the famous Plattes River , me in a Kayak and him in an inner-tube. Cheers
The difference between playing the objective vs playing to farm damage. Great game
Indeed! Playing to win and not for the points! o7
Love to watch Jingles while I am "working" at the office doing absolutely nothing
hahah love it as well.
same here 🤣
"The boss is coming. Look busy!" lol
@@barrown1275 just pretending, it's easy to get away with it XD
arguably you are learning experience from a Combat Veteran, just don't tell your boss which type of experience. 🤣
Morning y'all, to a good shift in the mines we go.
I just finished my shift, it was a hard day. Now I am alowed to watch Jingles.
Currently on my unapproved lunch break. 🤫 Don't lead them to me!
Brothers of the mine rejoice
Hi ho hi ho hi ho off to work we go hi ho hi ho😊😊😊😊
I just warmed up dinner after pulling a 10 hr shift and setting the Monday sales record at the bar where I work - a challenging and tiring day. A little Jingles is just what I needed. Cheers!
I've won games in destroyers where the only thing I did was run around taking caps and recapping. Little to no damage but won the game for it.
Flambass in a DD?
Ohhh boy, here we go.
There should be an achievement for torps dodged.
His torpedobeats game is on point.
“Took a hit from something” while being able to visibly see the Yorktown torps land XD, ah jingles stay classic
Jingles, you say this commander is the most annoying, but we have Cappy in game; a voiceover who speaks only in various grunts and screams!
add to that the japanese cat who only grunts lol
"Mahan", named after Admiral Alfred Thayer Mahan, has 2 common pronunciations: The arguably correct way to say it in English is "May-en/May-han", however, American dialects are as diverse as the people, so English loses "compatibility" as you cross county lines, let alone state lines... So, "Muh-hawn/Ma-hawn" are also common, yet moreso in Southern states or traditionally more rural ones, i.e. the central Mountain states (Wyoming, Dakotas, Montana, etc).
Geeeeeez sounds like the Captain is a former drill sergeant!
Nah. a wannabe former drill sergeant, an actual current a-hole
A ship captain but it's a marine sargeant.
I've never understood why Benson gets so much stick. I love it. Sure, it HP pool is quite weak, but the guns are pretty good, especially once you get used to the ballistics, the torps are slow but are fairly stealthy and the ships concealment is superb. It's even pretty fast. It's a really good balance of guns and torps. The first time I played the US DDs, Benson was the moment the line clicked with me. In fact, in terms of Tech Line US DDs, only Fletcher and the Clemson (Which is SO over powered for T4!!) are more fun.
Of course Flambass gave us a masterclass in DD play. Always on the objective, always aware.
i play the mahan quite regularly in operations and in that she's quite good as her torps mean that you always torps available as she has one midline and one torp tubes either side for three and with the benson torps is good for setting up torp runs.
For me having grinded every dd line to at least Tier 8. Most of the dd lines see a decent jump going into T8. Benson seems more a slight upgrade. But I think it is because you can finally stealth torp so you feel like you can be more impactful but since it's torps are so trash and then the Fletcher's torps are so much better it feels like a massive let down. But personally I think the US DD line is the ideal DD line to learn DD play.
I think it's because people still try to play Benson et al as gunboats, when realistically they've been pushed into more of a torpedo boat role. I gave up building for guns on Benson, Fletcher and Gearing and built for torpedoes instead, and had much more success with each of them.
I love hearing Akatsuki in the background adding some voice lines to the video
I seem to have missed any and all INTENDED references, but now I've got a Joy Division song stuck in my head. Thanks, fellow Old Man!
A morning dump and jingles, all is right with the world.
Not all right until coffee gets chugged down my friend :)
@@Bushcraft-xz6xd done and done brother🤟
Early is relative when you have insomnia.
104 aircraft kills in total by Flambass' team!!! I'll let that sink in for a minute xD
Historically Kaga carried 90 aircraft... so that means... I got nothing.
@@Julius_Hardwareit had atleast another 20 or more in the air. It had 2 squadrons around plus a fighter squadron.
I would say that MM was great for DD's especially Benson. No radar means easy approach and opposing CV spotting was rather ... not efficient in disabling Flam activities anyway.
When was the last time you saw someone play the map. Totally.
I think I am speechless. GG
The Board approves of your title/gimmick.
Flambass: "Are you not entertained?!"
I give props to that CV, he outplayed the red CV by a fair margin - particularly early play that permitted the double-cap at the start. I think you're also selling the Mahan short - I mean, if you want to call it terrible, take a look at the detectability difference between, say, the Jervis and the Lightning. That's like night and day.
Good Morning all you Daves out there!
Love Jingles narration of the great Flambino 😂
The Mahan, just like the Benson... are both very, VERY good DDs!
More than half my kills with Japanese torp boats are gun kills. I've had DD drivers panic when an IJN DD goes brawly guns.
especially the 100mm after they god the buff.
5:09 - "The Kaga never runs out of aircraft" implied that other CVs do run out of aircraft. As Ron Burgandy says, "I don't believe you."
I mean, the problem with most T7 DDs is they don't have access to the 5th equipment slot and that concealment system upgrade. The Mahan's base detection is only 250m more than the Benson. But it lacks that slot, so ends up a lot worse.
Destroyer concealment tends to climb up to 7, then drop again from 8. Which makes T7 DDs in general the worst concealed for their line. Then they go up against stealthy T8 DDs, and T8 &9 radar.
I love seeing good play like this. Where jingles extols the good play and clever tactics and not some multi platoon players in obviously over power ships
Map control - most important in Chess and World of Warships!
The old man is 53???
I thought he had to be at least 150 years old...
That ballet of torpedo dodging…
Flambass has also noted on several occasions that CV's were supposedly modified so that they could no longer "cross drop" torpedoes... which you can clearly see happening here.
Small quibble about the Mahan's stealth: its base stealth is exactly the same as Benson's. The problem is that it doesn't get access to the stealth module that Benson can mount at tier 8. Also, its torpedo launchers feature one fewer tube apiece, and the upgraded torpedoes don't do nearly as much damage. The Benson's torpedoes are the same speed and have the same range, but they do something like 5k more damage when upgraded, which makes them slow but relatively lethal.
Thank you Mr. J for sharing and thank you Flambass for sending it in! 😂 Master manipulator! 😊
i enjoy your videos they keep me wanting to play world of warships
I agree, Jingles - it always grinds my gears when some people call me 'son' & I'm slightly older than you - btw another great commentary 'old man' 😅
Love your vids
Ah Jingles, youngin as always. 53 is basically a young adult
Fantsque took the central caps, left and put up her hands and yelled: "I dont want to win this!"
Play the objective. Damn, what, pay attention to the game and what you're supposed to do? Madness. Why would you play the objective? I'm new to Tanks [Jingles' other videos] but I try to apply what I've watched over the last several years. So, I play the objectives and promptly get my ass handed to me as the rest of the team "Lemming Trains" off into the sunset and dies. Then I'm stuck knowing there are 8 unspotted tanks hunting me so I kiss my ass goodbye. Here is a great, instructive video, a master class, and yet, no-one seems to bring that to the actual game. Thanks "son", and I am old enough to say that, for the lesson. I'll keep playing the objectives in the forlorn hope that in one game will pay off.
The captain sounds like Gunny Hartman, played by real life drill instructor and actor R Lee Ermey, in the movie Full Metal Jacket.
I don't claim to be well versed in WarGames lore, but I was reminded of Mr. T. when I heard the working and the tempo of the Captain comments. Of course the voice is wrong.
Jingles I didnt even see the thumbnail before seeing that Jingles had posted another warships vid
5:57 Well, the Saipan/Sanzang are probably the only exceptions to that. Pretty easy to run out of aircraft with them if there’s more than a couple strong AA ships in the match.
Those torpedo beats though!! GG Flambino GG
15:00 hey Jingles, look, a depleted torpedo plane squadron from the Kaga...
Brilliant Play!!!!
Anyone else notice the 104 planes downed god damn Kaga really doesn’t run out of planes ever
The most annoying captain is the American Santa Clause from a couple years ago.
53 Jingles? Like me you belong in a museum “Son” 😂 turning 60 this year. Equipment I maintained whilst in the Navy is now on display at the Australian War Memorial museum 😳
Speaking of control, you should absolutely play the game Control. It’s a great game and would fit pretty well on the channel.
Great video, thanks!
There's always a sense of surprise when I open up on the enemy with my Shima guns. Especially DDs. I come in blazing and they freeze trying to digest the need to evade my guns as well as my soon to arrive torp wall of skill. lol
I have been watching you nearly half my life but I only now realize you are actually younger than my dad. This is funny because at exactly your age my dad had another kid.
You’re a spring chicken Jingles 😂😂😂
Most annoying captain...
Uh... Jingles, that would be you.
lol, I find it funny that the Kaga was bottom of the board cause he only got one hit off the entire game
How many torpedos did he avoid? And no reward for that skill.
The Kaga lost 104 aircraft and had atleast another 20 in the air. Thats what 1.5x to 2.0x its historical capacity
Great Game Flambass as always a joy to watch. Now if only I could use what I see to better my game!
Morning Gnome Overlord
We dwarfs approve off to work we go
A new video yay, oh I saw this on Flambass YT earlier. Still nice to get Jingles point of view.
Akatsuki, Kagero, Yugumo, Shimakaze… Jingles oh Jingles. I’ve sent you a number of replays with those ships utilizing my guns to prove that we’re not all obligate torpedovores. 😂
That is a lot of scratches to the paintwork.
Howdy
, hope you’re all having a .
This annoying commander would be Greenwood.
The Mahan does have pretty bad stealth, but it has a monstrous DPM advantage over other destroyers in its tier. That alone makes it pretty good in my eyes.
It is not a Teenager, that is the 50 plus General Greenwood. Jingles has swapped Ship identification errors for Captain ID errors!!
Speaking of captains, my disappointment knows no bounds that I can't have a jingles captain on any other ships but for the Royal Navy. They need to have multi-national jingles captains like john maclain.
I remember when the Benson was 'good.' Of course that was before they wrecked everything.
Good morning all...From the Salt Mines night shift. On another note I actually liked the Benson.
"Worlds Most Annoying Ship Captain"...hmm. there's another one, that when you sink a battleship, says "We sank a friendly destroyer!" and identifies incoming torpedoes as "Enemy Submarine spotted!" That one is the most annoying to me! (I jest, I love my Jingles captain!)
Never been this early to a jingles video!
Always Flambass, lets see Potato Quality next!
Jingles is only 53? Christ I'm old :(
Yep - I have given him crap about it since I am older than him by a few years as well
When did they give the Marines a whole ship lol That captain voiceover sounds like a marine NCO
Approximately yes torpedoes
torpedoes spotted woud have been fun to se
Kaga gets around 150 strike planes per match...which is about 50 more than most CVs.
and 60 more than the Kaga ACTUALLY HAD 🤣
Well played!
Honestly, The Mahan is a good ship. She has been power-crept by newer ships and the other destroyers in the line are more popular. The Clemson is OP, the Nicholas is decent, the Farragut is loved for some unknown reason, the Benson is really good, the Fletcher is the crown jewel of the line and the Gearing is Ok. I don't know why people crap on the Mahan, learn to play that ship well and you will have the skills to make the following ships terrors of the seven seas. #StopMahanHate
Interesting captain voice
Is that ollie williams the family guy weatherman?
Actually the worst captin is the one call Jingles 😂
Popeye is easily the most annoying Capt. I regret assigning him
Impressing dodging
Yet- I still prefer to do battle in my Mahann with it's 3 torpedo launchers over the Bensons 2. I seem to score way more kills in the enemies I get put against, but as always- your mileage may vary!
I submit that "Bumble Bee" is the most annoying captian
Nice
Sounds like one of the voice actors from Armored Warfare.
Clickbait worked, old man! I clicked....
Wdym?
@@Kidtoucher-wg9gg Read the video description
Sir Jingles…
In your opinion… What is the best fire starting ship in the game.. 😃
I like the Benson. I didn't very well with it.
In all, 98 planes from the Kaga were shot down...
If you do it like Flambass you have the most change of success. in these small groups...
Hey Jingles. Have you ever thought about featuring WOWS Legends videos on the channel? Some of us have some pretty astounding videos for you that would make great material
Whatever captains voice that is is still a million times less annoying than every Japanese anime characters voice that's in the game
I've never heard that commanders voiceover before, who the heck is that?