World of Warships - A Game of Throws Season Four Episode Two
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- An unusual episode today in which the Throw happens for reasons you probably wouldn't be expecting.
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Tony Hawk would be proud of that wall ride.
Wonder what he's up to these days?
this has to be the EU server its considered such a scummy move on NA that you could be kicked from your clan for blue lining like that.
2:25 'This is the life of someone who volunteers to be a bounty target.' No, this is the life of anyone who has to play against a Nahkimov who are notorious for trolling 'AA Cruisers'.
Yeah.... It doesn't help American or British AA is concentrated in the SHORT and MID range AA guns, so the long range damage is MOSTLY though Flak Bursts. Hell speaking from Experience, fully buffing your AA (which might even be overkill) will only protect you from Japanese planes, which are some of if not thee most Fragile planes in the game.
Oddly enough German AA and Russian AA is surprisingly effective. And of course the "NEWER" ships actually have worth while AA that actually does anything helpful.
Its even worse in ships with no aa... Because the russians needed to be "balanced" around only one attack per squadron, they made them so resilient, that you wont even shoot down one or two planes in a ship with bad aa. So they can just repeat doing it without even weakening their squadrons.
Yeah. As someone who plays ships that actually have AA (De7P), contrary to the meme, AA is certainly a thing that exists and can cause significant problems for carriers. Even multiple carriers. Unless you're fighting a RUSSIAN carrier.
@@domin727 Arn't the Russian planes made of Aluminum foil? which is why they gave them SO MANY PLANES per squad?
@@jaywerner8415 According to the game only getting one attack per flight is supposed to somehow be a downside, but that just means they don't need to stick around aa for long. very Balance.
So the enemy team going seagulls from Finding Nemo to Statsblock... "MINE MINE MINE !"
I thought it was Mike! mike! mike!
They stop being bullshit and i will stop complaining. Brilliant jingles
A perfect Statement to describe the state of Aircraft Carriers in World of Warships at the moment.
As a former pre-rework CV main, i agree with jingles' statement😅
I pick up the game after 3 years, first battle I'm in I end up in a game of throws episode on the throwing team. Serves me right for coming back and expecting to be fun, I guess.
Moskva is a sub, last I heard.
I thought she was a reef
IRL 😂
No... She was never born, she turned into nails before she / he was even born. (The Stalingrad one)
The only same thing they have in common is the name.....
Promoted to submarine, you mean
I also love how as Jingles is looking in the direction of the bot it shots and he just doesn't see it at all lol.. its firing randomly into its own spawn to keep it from being afk.
it also started moving in the last 30 seconds
@@DexteruL Yeah you can only tell via minimap though its reasonable to miss that, missing the shells firing is slightly more of a jingles moment lol
either way those players are why beyond the greed i'd never play WOWS.
They need to publicly ban cheaters imo
So its a slightly advanced bot
As an ex-carrier main in WoW, I strongly believe the old/original version of carriers were much better than this nonsense that we have today. Yes, US CV's fighters were completely OP against JN CV's planes, but at least the attack raids of 2/3 JN torp squads would get wiped out against a strong CA AA fire or multi-ship flotilla's. Ships had a chance if they used teamwork, but back then, no one know how to properly counter CVs. Now, it doesn't matter, there is nothing you can do against a CV attack. *sigh*
Even with the OP US fighters, it was possible to outplay oponent using strafing runs. Typically sacrificing one squad in dogfight as bait, it was good trade. And it also often forced game to start as CV duel, that was for me more interesting then current gameplay. My best time in WoWs was in Hiryu, stopped playing CVs after rework
Sympathises in California😢
I absolutely agree. I watched a cv bringing a flight of planes into 5 ships overlapping aa, and just strike and leave and several ships were american aa ships
I still remember how a Cleveland could create a no fly zone. CVs back than had a bigger impact on the game than other ships. But you needed some skill to use it. Today a monkey on crack can dominate in a CV
Sorry, but CV's pre rework were much more deadly. Pre rework if a CV wanted you dead, you're dead. Cross dropped and bombed, back to port. The only issue with CV's at the moment is the idiotic regen of planes. Remove that, and CV's are then balanced.
16:50 Definitely one confused bot. Firing in the opposite direction from the enemy.
This vid remended me of the meme: "Call an ambulance.... But not for me!" :)
Stats sailing the border. What is new here? ;)
Can't be said enough.
really likes serfing that border huh
Carriers are bullshit but exploiting the border bug is fine 🤷♂
@@CapitalRoach Jingles explicitely said it wasn't all right, didn't you listen? Then again, I agree that turning away would mean getting killed.
I get accidently bouncing off of it, is part of the game, but to actively keep turning into the border is sorry-ass.
@@johnnyenglish583 He's happy enough to make money off this bullshit though, even though he agrees it's a shit-tier move.
@@CapitalRoach who is making money off a player border-surfing? Is that player also a youtuber?
20:12 - Iwami started moving again and there are some things in the air way above the Midway that could be shell traces, but if they are, they were aimed toward the next map over.
I only found out about the Bounty Hunter event by seeing that I got a bounty hunter achievement in the post game results screen. I sunk one by accident while most players hunt for it. I consier myself lucky XD
20:17 we can see a bunch of Japanese AP birds migrating the f knows where to
I remember when I got the Children's Week meta achievement back in 2009 or 2010 (don't remember if it was during Wrath or Cataclysm). I had to actually play the battlegrounds and to the required actions for real...
Same, and I was genuinely playing PvP at the time, (even though I didn't love it) because I had a friend who loved it and was teaching me.
I remember running Arathi Basin with my little Draeni helper running behind me. Some much fun back then.
Ngl watching this dude repeatedly abuse the map border is kinda annoying lol. Still think the map border should just “ground” people that decide to turn into it
Oh fuck, old man. Perfect timing, I just lit a jazz cigarette. Cheers, mate.
Just hit the party trumpet myself.
This smoke screen is lasting veery long, cool...
You know Jingles, maybe people will stop getting at you for your constant CV hate when you sit down and actually explain how you think these CVs are bullshit when you were perfectly fine with the far more powerful RTS CVs, even though you also called out people for taking Hydro back in those days because they *might* see a CV and when you did you "needed" DefAA.
Just saying "CVs are bullshit" says nothing, because by that same token anyone could say any class of ship in the game is bullshit. Personally I find low tier DDs that can stealth torp bullshit, because in the hands of an experienced player they will NEVER be spotted and will wreck house, with the only counter-play being to hope that your teams DDs are equally as skilled, and equally as stealthy as the good DD on the other team. Or you know, having a CV around willing to go spot the DD assuming he can even find the DD.
Now I will admit you may have gone over your issues in a "Mingles with Jingles" but lets be real, only about 1/4th of your audience even watches those, so you'd basically be talking into the void there. A stand alone video actually breaking down your issues with CVs might help to alleviate the people getting at you for constantly complaining about CVs. Or it would just make them louder as I imagine most of your issues with CVs boil down to "Waa my Atlanta isn't a completely unrealistic no fly zone, it was an AA cruiser it should be immune to aircraft!" as if WW2 AA was effective at anything other than dispersing attacks.
Jingles, I love your stories. The care bears + annoyed players finding game-breaking solutions to silly problems made my day. Thank you.
WTF cares about World of warcraft?
@@RobertDavenport-f8t A lot of people do? It's still a popular MMO even if its glory days are behind it, and it's been home to some really interesting online gaming moments.
Factions are just Blizzard's opinion.
@@RobertDavenport-f8tHave you _looked_ at Jingles' profile pic? Where do you think this channel originated from?
@@RobertDavenport-f8t Some people, including people who still play it and people who used to play it. Be it nostalgia or whatever, a great storyteller can make it work.
Stats disgustingly hugging the map boarder TWICE in one game.
Not even a WoWS player but even I could tell it was wrong to see the ship doing this.
pretty scummy move, i get that in the heat of battle you can lose track of where you are and hit the border. its happened to me. but i wont shoot at the enemy until i get off of it. it's really frowned upon on the NA server. you could get kicked from your clan for doing it.
hi Jingles
why you showing that kind of crap play who hugs a border line??? this is not a shit play section
Stats is a known border bumper
Can we avoid Stat’ replay in the future because I have very little respect for people abusing the border hugging bug.
Triple shifts in the salt mine!
wow...borderhump much??
Speaking of added objectives. Perhaps the most frustrating is the player added objective where they play to stay alive the longest and don't play to win.
excellent, another throws of game
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET got here before the video had reached 1k views! That's gotta be a new record for me.
Jingles, could you imagine two silkworm missiles with the same properties as WoW aircraft during Desert Storm? Imagine your pucker factor then! 😂
what makes this even sillier is the bounty targets trying to get the other bounty.
7:34 As soon as you said "children's week" I *immediately* knew where you were going with that thought and said "oh god" out loud just remembering how awful it was on *both* sides - the people gunning for the achievement have to compete with other achievement hunters while hoping their team supports them despite their goal being counterproductive to winning the battle, while the people playing normally have to work around the lemmings chasing the achievement in a desperate attempt to actually play the objective and win the match. The people who want the achievement get mad when they can't complete the very specific objectives, and the normal PvPers get mad at the achievement hunters for playing poorly. Nobody's happy. I was very much not a PvPer and even though the children's week achievement was the last one I needed for the meta achievement I literally gave up out of sheer frustration. Ain't no purple proto-drake worth that amount of suffering.
Statsbloke is a dirty border camper
Another lunch break well spent, thanks Jingles ❤
The game mode is meh. Sometimes no target at all. Sometimes only 1, on your team. If you do sink it, only 2 points(need120 for a skin, gl). You spawn east, bounty spawns west. For the first half of the fight, cant reach the bounty.
It needs a few changes.
to be fair Jingles, this is normal in our days, I don't think he was focused more then your usual DM player, pot dmg is pretty low as well, this is the level of this playerbase nowadays
16:49 Iwami shoots randomly at nothing right as bot question
In WoW the "Care Bear" label was typically used for PVE servers (because without open world PVP, babies could play on them) rather than individual players in BGs; as in "Oh... you don't understand how hard the game is as a lowbie. You're on a Care Bear server." When it was used on a player, it was server relevant instead of Battleground relevant.
can actually list a worse setup than that WoW one. When SW:TOR introduced battlegrounds the rewards for capturing the point far outweighed the penalties. So both sides charged the objective, one side would stand still and let their opponents massacre them, thereby capping the objective, then they'd swap roles. If you turned up not knowing this and actually tried to PVP you'd get shouted at by your own team for interfering with their reward farming.
So what are the rewards for being a bounty target? Slightly more xp, some kind of currency bonus?
I sure do miss Random acts of Violence. 🙂
I don't think that Iwami was a bot, but someone refusing to play, which I actually think is worse. At least a bot yolo's in trying to get a quick kill before dying.
Late in the game you see shells flying across the map, and it was only the friendly CV and Iwami left so the Iwami player was being 'active' to make sure the game didn't realise they'd been AFK, and makes me think that the joke that the Coop AI is probably better and more useful that a good proportion of the actual player base isn't much of a joke and more a depressing reality...
"Lie back and think of Iowa" made me spit my coffee over my keyboard. Fantastic!
20:11 Don't mind the Iwami bot, it's just randomly shooting across the map at nothing.
Jingles, keep laying into CV's. It makes me so happy.
Cant stand that border riding
Query: Is the Battleship Moskva the same ship as the deep-water reef Moskva or just same name?
In-game Moskva was one of the preliminary designs for what would become the Stalingrad class of battlecruisers. They were never actually built. The recently sunk Moskva was a follow-up to the nuclear-powered Kirov class of cruisers (except without the nuclear power).
Only the same name
Just the same name, I think. The Moskva deep water reef was built in 1976.
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throwing themselves and the game away wish i had enemy’s like that. stay safe
I'm sorry but border hugging of that egregious calibre is just too much scumbaggery for me. Otherwise well played, but I really don't have any respect for border hugging.
Who is this guy @StatsBloke statsbSosig statsbSosig statsbSosig statsbSosig statsbDance
oh so THATS why all the bounties play AA cruisers
Jingles, keep going on Carriers
Would have liked to see the Kremlin replay. What a legend.
The notification of jingles and a game of throws. Does it get better
I only have to watch a game with a carrier in it or a submarine....and I remember why I left.
Utter shame on you to feature someone doing scummy things. Sorry jingles, but this hurts to watch
in regards to the childrens week season in WoW, what used to happen back when I played was that everyone just helped them out as fast as possible until everyone had gotten it out of their system. Usually only took a week or so. This was before the whole realm merger thingy they got going today.
Arms race as a game mode you often see play that shows either a large portion, perhaps the majority, do not understand the game mode or simply do not care about playing the objective. Players go wide to both flanks, often chasing a single ship like in this match. This behaviour is not only due to the bounty hunter addition but is typical behaviour in this mode. Bounty hunter takes something that is poor in this game mode and makes it worse. Well done Wargaming.
As a carrier player I can say it’s frustrating to see what I can do with low skill to a group of high AA targets.
I feel like a solution isn’t to remove the carriers abilities to see or do things but to make it easier for players to counter the carrier by focusing AA or maybe buffing AA more on ships that should have it and making AA cruisers hurt carriers…..
used to be that way but CV players cried that it was too hard to dmg enemys so WG made CVs what they are today.
The only thing worse than subs and aircraft carriers is someone who exploits the border aiming bug. I'm surprised you featured a video with that kind of shit.
Well there is a difference between wanting to do that and forced to do that, stats really didnt exploit it, he moved off the border as soon as it was relatively safe for him to do so... As jingles said, if he moved off the border while the monty was looking and shooting at him... Stats would have been deleted, plus if you know how to aim properly, you can compensate and still hit border targets
@@naggarond I think this is a mostly fair assessment, however I cannot help but think he wouldn't have put himself in that position (twice!) in the first place if he didn't think he could abuse the border to get out of it if needed. For someone at his skill level, I doubt it was purely circumstantial.
@@HolyDuckTurtle true, but i see exploiting said border, if he would be constantly on it, purely to gain an advantage, NGL ive run into the border here and there by simply not paying attantion, even statsbloke is only human.... Unlike the iwami on his team 😂
@@naggarond Fair, the Iwami was truly something xD
Playing the objective by making the other team NOT playing the objective.
Fun times indeed.
The DM took 117k in damage from 2 million potential and it took 85k to kill the goliath
....arms race is always interesting
Jingles never stop highlighting how broken carriers are and the ppl who play them, and the devs who made them 😂❤
o my lord, played World of Warcraft for 17 years and have most of the Achievements. "What a long journey, It was...lol"
4:00 The situations with the CVs is the single reason I stopped playing years ago... Such bullshit that you are basically not able to do shit against them.
Average MMO Player in any game when event achievements are to be unlocked: "MINE! MINE! MINE!"
Even the last two brain cells get switched off...
16:45 Iwami is DEFINITELY a bot - the second you said "It might be" it shot a salvo in the opposite direction of everybody else, faking activity. 😑
Like watching the Minions chasing a banana.....
jingles the achievement school of hard knocks has been removed from the meta so thats no longer an issue
A good representation of WoWs in 2024: players who lose sight of the objectives, cruisers that only fire when perfectly broadside or borderhumping, CV planes that don't care what they fly over, a random bot Iwami and you, having to thank the allied CV for capping. The only thing missing is a touch of 'sub'.
WOW CV game play is boring. I really liked the way NAVYFIELD did it. But you really had to multitask between fighters, dive bombers, torpedo bombers, and or scouts. You had auto and manual mode. Manual was harder to use, but you had a better chance to hit your targets. (Once you got good)
It's been years. If they were going to make AA work again they would have. It's ridiculous that they keep this up. I don't mind CVs ruining the day of folks with bad AA. That's what you get when you choose a ship with bad AA. Presumably there are other features that compensate. But if you're got an AA specialized cruiser like a Des Moines or Cleveland you should have some level of protection.
The Salem is kinda my favourite ship, and even tho it is better than the Des Moines he could´ve done SO MUCH BETTER in this battle.
I mean, no higher range Module, not using island cover, he could´ve decimated that entire flank with good positioning and just simply not open water gunboating in much less time, and his team even played aggressive enough.
I´m sorry but i will credit his survival to sheer luck, i know for a fact that as the Montana i would´ve deleted him early on with that poor play.
Nah surfing the map boarder in open water is knowingly cheating, not once but several times. We shouldn't condone this activity. He should've positioned better to avoid that situation or been deleted by the montys salvo.
When i play CV, i get blasted out of the sky if i fly over 3 good ships.. Gone in a instant..If u play tier 8 cv vs tier 9 and 10- forget about it.. It is different than 50 years ago when u tried it. I'l agree Nakimov has a lingering Soviet Bias
I didn't know I was volunteered as a bounty until the other day, I killed the enemy Bounty and took more then 1mil potential plus killed 4 or 5 and then noticed I was a bounty, some patches popped up and I guess I get a hearty handshake and smile at some stage? Events over that's my only bounty either way /shrug, in the Annapolis. The whole event seemed a bit stupid, if you didn't play a hard hitter you had buckles of getting a bounty.
Ah Jingles, I thought that a "throw" was loosing a match that was all but already won. I noticed that Stat's team was up for 5 seconds at 13:50 but focusing on a CC Streamer with a bounty in a game that was not a steamroll is about the best chance of fame that most of us will experience. I do appreciate Stats (I'm a sub) and always like some nice DM play but is this game really a "throw"?
Sorry, but people border hugging shouldn't be featured no matter how interesting their game was. The fact that Wargaming hasn't fixed this issue for years doesn't change the fact that abusing the border is unsportsmanlike. No gentlemen player would ever pull this one.
JING JING.
😂
*A.I WIZARDS*
YOU LIVE ON MY WORLD.
IT'S TIME YOU STARTED PAYING THE TAX.
😂
... I must be playing a different version of this game, or something. Because every time I play as a carrier, mine seems to be made completely of petrol-soaked tissue paper, while the planes rarely survive a single bombing/torpedo run.
By five minutes into a game, I'm all out of planes, and spend the rest of the time trying to stay alive long enough to spawn enough planes to make up a flight.
So it always confuses me severely when I hear how deadly/invulnerable aircraft carriers are in these clips. Maybe the tier ten ones are, but the tier seven ones certainly aren't!
Then I ask myself, is jingles still playing WOWS or does he only use it for replays...
I think at Tier VI carriers there are still no fly zones. That or I'm just really bad at new carriers (Started playing them again to get 250k spot dmg for campaign mission)
CVs are what made me leave this game 4 years ago when cross dropping their torps was a thing and AA meant even less. Do enjoy watching Jingles vids about it though always have. Also never liked the whole border humping play that Stats was doing he was not turning around he was using the old border trick he only started turning when he ate the BB AP he did not have to put himself into the border twice but he did.
Also what kind of mad people will spend a year in a game just to get a mount... that's just insanity.
I assume the Iwami had a disconnect or something and ran into that island. And also: there are definitly worse team mates than this, since (spoiler!):
if Stats and the Midway would have been miraculously killed, the afk Iwami would have carried over the time
Eh, it's not the carriers, Wargaming is bullshit.
If they were not, they would not ruin everyone's fun by reworking carriers.
So you have to register to be a bounty target ? I wouldn't mind, dosent make any difference in something like a radar Mino.
I disagree that Statsblock wasn't playing the objective. The more enemies hunting him the less are playing the objective. It is the perfect strategy.
I must be playing carriers wrong because all of my planes just die in ball of fire. Unfortunately due to all the hate for them there's no real good guides on them. I just wanna fly my planes :(.
At 16:51, it looks like the useless Iwami just fired his guns . . . northward . . . away from the battle . . .
🤦♂️
Border riders are worse than CV mains, IMHO. Riding the border should cost you 1% damage per second.
3:00 Even better ! Send some Awesome Carrier Games in and I , maybe, stop complaining about them 🤣🤣🤣.
In the Seattle player's defense, their gun angles are complete garbage and require a lot of shown broadside to use the rear guns. Doesn't excuse their poor positioning though.
Actually got the achievement done in Warcraft last year. They removed/made easier alot of the pvp related stuff. Good riddance i say.
As a carrier player myself, they are bullshit but fun to play as. And a lot of the time, it’s up to the carrier player to make good plays that usually causes the fall of a player or multiple players if one were to be a victim of running into a destroyer’s torpedos instead of a plane’s
Quite an interesting game you've got here. Are there weather and visibility options? (I think this would be highly entertaining at night or in fog)
Jingles, could you go on MORE about carries? Your rants on how bullshit they are are hilarious! No seriously
Like we're not bounty targets for CV's and subs all year round :D
'SRY' is the same as when players say 'GG' after stomping your team. 100% toxic.
And I thought carriers were Overpowered in the Blitz version (though to be honest its mostly the ones that are tier VII and above)
Map border should automatically turn you around back into the map and start you at zero speed.