1-5 km I wish... Sadly I might have issues with my Goggles X, no matter what antennas I put, the range is awful. I bought antennas for few hundred euros already, I try flying at 1w, nothing helps. 1-1.5km max.
Under 1km, limited by penetration, especially as I spend most of my time below tree top height. Also want to have situational awareness as we do have a reasonable amount of low level general aviation around - I fly “safely and responsibly”.
100meters. NB style in the back yard only. But I did get a Fractal wingman 1s li-ion 18650 kit and added walksnail. Unfortuantely I broke it. Now I want a Rekon35 frame kit for 2s 18650. I forgot how much fun crusing can be.
@@solongbattlestar If you let me give you a good recommendation for the rekon35 build: use happymodel 1204 6500kv motors with HQ 3.5x2.2 bi blade props on 2S 18650. This setup on a toothpick frame gets me 27 min of flight at 50kph average.
1 of those 3 analog pilots here )) Analog is still unbeatable in terms of LR if you have no intention to capture HQ flight video, just to fly to the horizon and back. With some decent equipment on the ground you can easily double your flight distance without breaking the bank ))) But recently i also started to think about buying walksnail for one of my drones (+VRX) just to have some good time in the air with high quality digital video! Happy fliyng!
It is a massive VTX and only really needed for LR, so i dont think thats unreasonable. BUT this is the first time ive seen that mentioned about it also lol..
I get strange stuttering on fast rolls with Walksnail. I also get issues with the higher power settings but do not have this VTX. As for overheating before takeoff, I have become picky about what flight controllers I use and pick ones that have on board pit mode switches compatible with digital whenever possible. This allows me to turn off the VTX until ready to take off. Better option than fan as fan uses more battery.
@@timon72489It s not the antenna connections. This occurs consistently on multiple units and occurred on them when they were brand new. The issues are worse if I use 1080p streaming. It seems more like it’s a bandwidth issue with how the software handles the image changing rapidly and requiring mote compression.
@TechnicallyTom Never heard of that problem before. So with fast movements inter frame prediction is more difficult. This could cause the encoder taking longer to make good motion prediction. Or as you said it consumes more bitrate that is takes to long to transmit but there is also time for retransmission... Or does data get lost (but why?) that causes retransmission. Is there a lot of interference at the places you fly?
@@timon72489One of the places I fly does have more interference and I can see the difference even in different control links. I use dynamic power on my control links and can see that higher power levels are required to maintain the link. I have DJI as well and it does not have the same issue at the same location. One of the things I look for when I watch these review type videos is whether this issue happens however I find that in many of them, fast snap rolls are not done.
4:47 - that is the range I'd normally get with Walksnail Avatar or Moonlight so its not that far. This new CADDX release is a bit of step backwards since it only records 1080p maximum.
3 huh? The longer I do this, the more I see and feel the judgment in this hobby. Personally, I'm thankful to be airborne when I'm lucky enough to have any drone to fly
Analog is still great. They will never stop improving it as well. They just came out with a great vtx that goes much more distance than any HD system. I do both but always prefer analog in doors and also feel my tricks look better when i fly with my analog quads.
Walk snail avatar is one watt of amplifier power the rest is the antennas. Thats how it is equal 2 watts . It is the Effective isotropic energy radiation . aka ERIP.
Great video as usual. I’m going to jump on the Walksnail system. But can’t decide on the L or the X goggle. I really want the easy Headtracking for my Plow tank for this winter. So I was leaning to the L. But are the X really that much better?
Yeah, I fly mostly O3 on my quads and I have no idea what he's talking about "falling out of the sky". Maybe the Goggles 3 issue that has now been resolved, but if you were using V1, V2, G2 or Integra, there has never been any issue with O3. I like walksnail for my fixed wing stuff, basically because of the pretty OSD in inav, but DJI has always had (and probably always will have) better image quality and a more reliable link.
Hi Stew, Great video and review of the Caddx Walksnail GT VTX. I have not used it yet but I'm still interested in getting one for my 7in lr quad. Unfortunately I have not been able to find my only walksnail quad that I lost last week.
I still fly Analog even though I have DJI air unit and O3's, but i also have some i specifically built for lightweight and simple analog setups. Plus, it's easier to fly at night with the analog and get good range even on low VTX output powers. I do wonder sometimes how good the Walksnail VRX would look, using the 1080p60 HDMI input on my Fat Shark HDO FPV Goggles...? The OLEDs have a resolution of 960x720p, so it does use the 1080p input to downscale it to the native resolution which can help with the video quality, VS if it had just a 720P HDMI Input. I have connected it to my PC and played GTA V on them and it looked perfectly good actually lol.. I was very surprised at how good it looked. I think it wouldn't be that bad actually, but it is limited to 60fps.
With how good the transmitters and receivers are, it's just a shame they don't do anything that can take the HDMI in from a DSLR or Camcorder. The real advantage of a system that will do 40+Km, is that it's sub 1Km performance is spectacularly reliable and interference resistant.
You mean for cinematography, yeah the DJI cinema wireless system is pretty pricey for the independent film makers. Would think caddx could just make an adapter for mipi to hdmi
@@ugpfpv361 Well, shoot,.. I forgot that "Mipi", is "CSI-2",.. and I got three CSI-2 input boards for Raspberry Pi 4B. Looks like I don't just need Moonlight Kit for my Opterra, but a second Walksnail Tx to experiment! :)
It’s obviously gotten better, and for the first time possible looking at trying it, but it doesn’t have built in stabilization, so it’s still not better than DJI in that regard. Most of the time I would definitely HATE to have to use Gyroflow, to have any kind of stable footage. The whole “dropping out of the sky” issue, is only with the newest goggles/firmware, which I don’t use. I prefer the larger screens on the V2’s(and V1’s), and not wasting more money.
Warming up to buy my first FPV and your reports are really informative and this video confirms that digital is getting the range for nice flights. Kudos!
Something I've never understood about drones and Transmitter and Receivers. A CB Radio can legally broadcast using 5 watts. These are no different as a CB Radio is a transmitter and a receiver. You can pull signals in better by using the RF Gain. There should be NO reason why someone couldn't broadcast 5 watts from the transmitter (Radio Controller) as well as pull in a better signal from the receiver using some type of RF Gain dial. Your range would be A LOT better than anything around today, and if you were able to use upper or lower sideband, your range would be even further.
HDZero is just doing its own thing. They don't directly compete with the other digital systems on purpose, really. They're mostly focused on flight feel and performance for the racing and micro worlds where considerations like weight and precision flight matter more than resolution and range. Super smooth 540p 90 Hz non-compressed video with extremely low fixed latency is in a different universe from Caddx, DJI, and Walksnail.
Stew....im not sure but you didnt look that far out with your flying...maybe 1km or 2km at most...and i heard you say u Normally get digital breakup with DJI in that spot .. if thats the case i will stick with my analog vtxs as i can achieve further that😮
Yeah some spots have interference with all sorts of video transmission, just depends, some environments like a professional race track are a headache I've heard
there arent a lot of comparison videos where they test the range and penetration. The ones that I've seen dji o3 still has better range and penetration, which means the gt has shit firmware or hardware or somethin, it's just shit in its current state- not shit in a vacuum, but shit in the sense that it's falling way short of what it should be able to do
DJI 03 and the G2 have the lowest latency for the best image with no issues ,, fly 6s full speed and no lag hmmmmmmm I believe in the updated firmware DJI is slowly cutting range and so is ELRS for consumers ,, lower latency means low range ,, but when flying bando you do not need range ,, Analog is still king for distance ,, the DJI Goggles V2 have more lag but far more distance m buying the 03 while on sale
Yep you almost have to have multiple systems if you want the best of everything, most of us just pick our compromises. I have walksnail ft for long range, walksnail regular for cinewhoop, analog for bashing... I have nothing against DJI but their goggles won't fit me
I've never dropped out of the sky using dji and id happily fly that far on dji m8 wow you just feed out some false information there m8 but i would really love to see it chucked on a wing and see how far you can get it is over 10 miles and ill sell up and swop over
Dont see the point in this video you barely went half a km away. Can easily do that on any digital system. I fly dji v1 with vista. I can easily hit the hard limit.
cool but no dice. this is not even as good as dji goggles 3 with my o3 i can go 2miles behind my back and have 50% signal. idk whats up with people dropping signal but i cant lose signal even flying in low power lolol dji system and my max distance was 8miles with v2 goggles and crystal patches. you wont do that with that my man.
This guys tongue waggles 200 miles per hour! Blablablablablsblablabla lol. Non stop man! Even as a native English person I found it difficult to keep up. The footage was choppy, stutter, with white wash blow out and looked like a 1980’s vhs. Can never compare or compete with dji Avata 2
What? You normally can't "push" your digital systems past a few hundred yards?? How in the hell you have 200K subs is not a good sign for society. p.s. you should change your channel name to, "Game Show host plays with fpv". "UAVfutures"?? I was expecting an engineer, not a Disney World tour guide.
DJI is for filming high quality film. Everyone else just wants to fly for the sake of flying. So they dont compare to the plug and play DJI offers for people that want to film cinematic shots.
This guys videos are unwatchable. The constant leaning on the table and awkward bent over shots just to get a side cam cut are ridiculous. Just stand there FFS.
What range do you normally fly in? under 1km, 1-5km, 5K +???
1-5 km I wish... Sadly I might have issues with my Goggles X, no matter what antennas I put, the range is awful. I bought antennas for few hundred euros already, I try flying at 1w, nothing helps. 1-1.5km max.
10-30km my pr is 30km on hdzero, recently got the GT kit but couldn't go further than 500m. Probably a defective vtx so had to send it back.
Under 1km, limited by penetration, especially as I spend most of my time below tree top height. Also want to have situational awareness as we do have a reasonable amount of low level general aviation around - I fly “safely and responsibly”.
100meters. NB style in the back yard only. But I did get a Fractal wingman 1s li-ion 18650 kit and added walksnail. Unfortuantely I broke it. Now I want a Rekon35 frame kit for 2s 18650. I forgot how much fun crusing can be.
@@solongbattlestar If you let me give you a good recommendation for the rekon35 build: use happymodel 1204 6500kv motors with HQ 3.5x2.2 bi blade props on 2S 18650. This setup on a toothpick frame gets me 27 min of flight at 50kph average.
I feel honored to he one of three analog pilots jeyjeyjey
Analog will never die. 🔥
It is us, the three
Analog gang!
This digital will never beat our 1.3 setups. If you want range, you go analog
@@LeVsTerFpv Sorry guys I bought this VTX and the Goggles L :I
1 of those 3 analog pilots here ))
Analog is still unbeatable in terms of LR if you have no intention to capture HQ flight video, just to fly to the horizon and back. With some decent equipment on the ground you can easily double your flight distance without breaking the bank )))
But recently i also started to think about buying walksnail for one of my drones (+VRX) just to have some good time in the air with high quality digital video!
Happy fliyng!
If you want to never be happy with analog again, then go ahead and buy walksnail.
@@JasonParham83 I tried DJI recently )))
And still enjoy my analog woop and 7-inch LR build. But i will by walksnail for sure, i already know it )))
Interesting review. One thing that IMHO should have been mentioned, is that the GT requires min 11.1V!
It is a massive VTX and only really needed for LR, so i dont think thats unreasonable. BUT this is the first time ive seen that mentioned about it also lol..
obv pushing 2 watts out of any 5 v will kill the becs and those components need the voltage
Wow you are going all the way out to the front stage of the art of VTX.
I get strange stuttering on fast rolls with Walksnail. I also get issues with the higher power settings but do not have this VTX. As for overheating before takeoff, I have become picky about what flight controllers I use and pick ones that have on board pit mode switches compatible with digital whenever possible. This allows me to turn off the VTX until ready to take off. Better option than fan as fan uses more battery.
Are the antenna connectors still good? Loose connectors could cause those problems
@@timon72489It s not the antenna connections. This occurs consistently on multiple units and occurred on them when they were brand new. The issues are worse if I use 1080p streaming. It seems more like it’s a bandwidth issue with how the software handles the image changing rapidly and requiring mote compression.
@@TechnicallyTommaybe the Rx side ..?
@TechnicallyTom Never heard of that problem before. So with fast movements inter frame prediction is more difficult. This could cause the encoder taking longer to make good motion prediction. Or as you said it consumes more bitrate that is takes to long to transmit but there is also time for retransmission... Or does data get lost (but why?) that causes retransmission. Is there a lot of interference at the places you fly?
@@timon72489One of the places I fly does have more interference and I can see the difference even in different control links. I use dynamic power on my control links and can see that higher power levels are required to maintain the link. I have DJI as well and it does not have the same issue at the same location. One of the things I look for when I watch these review type videos is whether this issue happens however I find that in many of them, fast snap rolls are not done.
How did that prop on the wall move multiple times??and 3 analog guys ... That have been here since the beginning 😂
I was ready to be unimpressed. I was way wrong. Zero compression . Holy crap
and remember you are watching a video, streamed on youtube that i encoded in editing on my pc that I then uploaded...
you could grab an inexpensive lav mic and connect to a phone for recording field audio. you might be impressed with the quality
4:47 - that is the range I'd normally get with Walksnail Avatar or Moonlight so its not that far. This new CADDX release is a bit of step backwards since it only records 1080p maximum.
3 huh? The longer I do this, the more I see and feel the judgment in this hobby. Personally, I'm thankful to be airborne when I'm lucky enough to have any drone to fly
Analog is still great. They will never stop improving it as well. They just came out with a great vtx that goes much more distance than any HD system. I do both but always prefer analog in doors and also feel my tricks look better when i fly with my analog quads.
@@Sylo2Nice what vtx would that be?
@@levitatedfpv9742 its a akk 10 watt vtx. I forgot who did the test on it but it was high.
@@Sylo2NiceHdzero 90hz with their goggles feels more locked in than analog to me. VERY close, but I have more confidence using HDZERO
@DustinLKimble nice. I never tried HD Zero, but i believe it. I just don't like the break up.
I saw a video that showed output power of the 2w model...its actually identical to dji o3
He test a 2W vtx in open area in short distance. 3:35 . It's not identical WS have more lag.
As long as it's better than the 1200w walksnail, all good
@@jmcjmc5587yeah long range it doesn't really make that big a difference.
Walk snail avatar is one watt of amplifier power the rest is the antennas. Thats how it is equal 2 watts . It is the Effective isotropic energy radiation . aka ERIP.
An FPV vehicle was mentioned, but I don't see it on your site page. Do you have videos and/ or info?
Hello Mr. Stu, do you know if this is compatilbe with the moonlight camera?
what part of aus is this, what a beatiful country
Great video as usual. I’m going to jump on the Walksnail system. But can’t decide on the L or the X goggle. I really want the easy Headtracking for my Plow tank for this winter. So I was leaning to the L. But are the X really that much better?
Both! Having the L for a companion set that has headtracker would be awesome!
Would love this, but as a side by side comparison with the DJI O3 air unit
It can’t. His head still stuck on the vista era
@@APS-yo8oy😂😂😂😂
Great video, what would that house be worth UDS? Absolutely stunning!!!
What camera are you planning to buy?
what about the old hardware? has there been some major firmware revision in the last year that improves range?
Can i connect the moonlight camera to the gt kit? Did you ever tested that?
awesome video Stew .. im stuck with my Vista polar and hero 13... also got Avata2 so id like to do a comparison
O3 works perfectly
Yeah, I fly mostly O3 on my quads and I have no idea what he's talking about "falling out of the sky". Maybe the Goggles 3 issue that has now been resolved, but if you were using V1, V2, G2 or Integra, there has never been any issue with O3. I like walksnail for my fixed wing stuff, basically because of the pretty OSD in inav, but DJI has always had (and probably always will have) better image quality and a more reliable link.
Can you re-upload this at 60fps? Or is the 50fps a result of 100 fps feed?
Are you getting a new gopro or DJI action ? 😅
Hi Stew, Great video and review of the Caddx Walksnail GT VTX. I have not used it yet but I'm still interested in getting one for my 7in lr quad. Unfortunately I have not been able to find my only walksnail quad that I lost last week.
from your goggle drop out?
@@UAVfutures video froze, then went black.
How do you even come up with a name like walksnail?
Its great but the fpv video stream from walksnail always seems jerky. Is there a way to smooth it out?
Maybe you got a bad unit...
@ugpfpv361 I'm going off all the videos posted. Seem jerky compared to dji. I don't own either. Trying to decide. Maybe it's a frame rate thing?
@@engizmo in the living feed it's fine, maybe it's just the dvr... I don't use the dvr so not sure
Jeebus it looks like GoPro footage, but it’s transmitted?
Greetings from Ex-Perther. Good work mate
I still fly Analog even though I have DJI air unit and O3's, but i also have some i specifically built for lightweight and simple analog setups. Plus, it's easier to fly at night with the analog and get good range even on low VTX output powers.
I do wonder sometimes how good the Walksnail VRX would look, using the 1080p60 HDMI input on my Fat Shark HDO FPV Goggles...?
The OLEDs have a resolution of 960x720p, so it does use the 1080p input to downscale it to the native resolution which can help with the video quality, VS if it had just a 720P HDMI Input.
I have connected it to my PC and played GTA V on them and it looked perfectly good actually lol.. I was very surprised at how good it looked. I think it wouldn't be that bad actually, but it is limited to 60fps.
With how good the transmitters and receivers are, it's just a shame they don't do anything that can take the HDMI in from a DSLR or Camcorder.
The real advantage of a system that will do 40+Km, is that it's sub 1Km performance is spectacularly reliable and interference resistant.
You mean for cinematography, yeah the DJI cinema wireless system is pretty pricey for the independent film makers. Would think caddx could just make an adapter for mipi to hdmi
@@ugpfpv361 Well, shoot,.. I forgot that "Mipi", is "CSI-2",.. and I got three CSI-2 input boards for Raspberry Pi 4B. Looks like I don't just need Moonlight Kit for my Opterra, but a second Walksnail Tx to experiment! :)
Do you run low power on until first arm Stew?
The low power for this is REALLY low, I can't be more than 10' away before starting to get breakup, I don't see why they had to go THAT low
HOW DID THAT PROP SPIN IN THE BACKGROUND....wtf happened there lol
So happy I bought into walksnail instead of DJI
Walksnail Avatar or moonlight?
It’s obviously gotten better, and for the first time possible looking at trying it, but it doesn’t have built in stabilization, so it’s still not better than DJI in that regard. Most of the time I would definitely HATE to have to use Gyroflow, to have any kind of stable footage. The whole “dropping out of the sky” issue, is only with the newest goggles/firmware, which I don’t use. I prefer the larger screens on the V2’s(and V1’s), and not wasting more money.
Warming up to buy my first FPV and your reports are really informative and this video confirms that digital is getting the range for nice flights. Kudos!
Bro should have witnessed the peak UAVFutures Era :)
@@mcsova29365 years ago that was the peak too at that moment. Think about what you replied… 😂 at any given moment in the future that’s the peak
CASA got you nervous boy, the distance you did here is nothing compared to what I have seen from DJO AIR unit 1 let alone 03 or 04.
Something I've never understood about drones and Transmitter and Receivers. A CB Radio can legally broadcast using 5 watts. These are no different as a CB Radio is a transmitter and a receiver. You can pull signals in better by using the RF Gain. There should be NO reason why someone couldn't broadcast 5 watts from the transmitter (Radio Controller) as well as pull in a better signal from the receiver using some type of RF Gain dial. Your range would be A LOT better than anything around today, and if you were able to use upper or lower sideband, your range would be even further.
HD zero is gonna have to do something to respond
it is only designed for low latency racing cam ☹️
hdzero is trash
HDZero is just doing its own thing. They don't directly compete with the other digital systems on purpose, really. They're mostly focused on flight feel and performance for the racing and micro worlds where considerations like weight and precision flight matter more than resolution and range. Super smooth 540p 90 Hz non-compressed video with extremely low fixed latency is in a different universe from Caddx, DJI, and Walksnail.
Are those the Avatar HD goggles L?
What if u found a pilot that would strap it on the wind of an airplane to test long range.
Great video man ur house is awesome, your audio is pretty dog tho you should try a DJI mic one of the most reliable in the business
Stew....im not sure but you didnt look that far out with your flying...maybe 1km or 2km at most...and i heard you say u Normally get digital breakup with DJI in that spot .. if thats the case i will stick with my analog vtxs as i can achieve further that😮
Yeah some spots have interference with all sorts of video transmission, just depends, some environments like a professional race track are a headache I've heard
I feal targeted by that arrow. Also, please change that prop 😂😂😂 ❤
there arent a lot of comparison videos where they test the range and penetration. The ones that I've seen dji o3 still has better range and penetration, which means the gt has shit firmware or hardware or somethin, it's just shit in its current state- not shit in a vacuum, but shit in the sense that it's falling way short of what it should be able to do
Nice, informative video. It helped me, thx! Thumbed up and subbed.
You must have great eyes, doesn't look like visual line of sight to me !!!
Hi, really good video. Can you please give me a simulator key? 🙏😢
What o3 problems did you mention several time? Never had issues with o3
It’s subjective… I’ve never had issues either. I don’t listen to reviewers. If I had I’d have just experienced half to cool stuff I had in the hobby.
I have also no issue with my G2 integra. I think he don't know himself.
hes talking about the issues with the new goggles 3
Interesting I get terrible range, nothing compares to the 03
“You 3 analog ppl” Realy?
Who here has issues with 03… thaught that was just with the goggles 3
Damn it man, im gonna have to buy more stuff lol
Man, fix the cam you run for your videos man it’s been like a year it does that random zoom in thing
DJI 03 and the G2 have the lowest latency for the best image with no issues ,, fly 6s full speed and no lag hmmmmmmm I believe in the updated firmware DJI is slowly cutting range and so is ELRS for consumers ,, lower latency means low range ,, but when flying bando you do not need range ,, Analog is still king for distance ,, the DJI Goggles V2 have more lag but far more distance m buying the 03 while on sale
Yep you almost have to have multiple systems if you want the best of everything, most of us just pick our compromises. I have walksnail ft for long range, walksnail regular for cinewhoop, analog for bashing... I have nothing against DJI but their goggles won't fit me
I've never dropped out of the sky using dji and id happily fly that far on dji m8 wow you just feed out some false information there m8 but i would really love to see it chucked on a wing and see how far you can get it is over 10 miles and ill sell up and swop over
It's the fast dropoff of signal, which he did mention, that maked DJI unsafe for long range.
Mate, just sell one or two of those drones hanging behind you and get a new camera, or low and behold, a Bluetooth mic O_o....
WOW GREAT ❤❤❤
Obviously hasn't tried 04 ocusync 😂
Just lost my $650 drone yesterday because DJI goggles 3 lost signal
sorry mate. its terrible DJI wont talk about this more or at least warn their users.
Dont see the point in this video you barely went half a km away. Can easily do that on any digital system.
I fly dji v1 with vista. I can easily hit the hard limit.
cool but no dice. this is not even as good as dji goggles 3 with my o3 i can go 2miles behind my back and have 50% signal. idk whats up with people dropping signal but i cant lose signal even flying in low power lolol dji system and my max distance was 8miles with v2 goggles and crystal patches. you wont do that with that my man.
Nice
This guys tongue waggles 200 miles per hour! Blablablablablsblablabla lol. Non stop man! Even as a native English person I found it difficult to keep up. The footage was choppy, stutter, with white wash blow out and looked like a 1980’s vhs. Can never compare or compete with dji Avata 2
Moaning like that, you'd give an aspirin a headache..
What? You normally can't "push" your digital systems past a few hundred yards?? How in the hell you have 200K subs is not a good sign for society.
p.s. you should change your channel name to, "Game Show host plays with fpv". "UAVfutures"?? I was expecting an engineer, not a Disney World tour guide.
Sorry for your frustration. this might help www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/the-art-of-kindness
@@UAVfutures Endorphins? Is that why you seem drunk? Okay, you're right - sorry.
@@uzer12387 only momentarily
ZERO useful info. LOTS of unbased claims.
3 nah analog th shit
Please stop bending over and looking at your bench cam its just weird.
DJI is for filming high quality film. Everyone else just wants to fly for the sake of flying. So they dont compare to the plug and play DJI offers for people that want to film cinematic shots.
that bent over shot is awful. you are trying to do too much
Ye stood out. Id leave it out in the future.
I really like the different shots👍 I was just thinking that and then I read this..👎 just keep doing what you’re doing Stew!
This guys videos are unwatchable. The constant leaning on the table and awkward bent over shots just to get a side cam cut are ridiculous. Just stand there FFS.