What's interesting to me is that obviously this is only a power boost on one end of 2 way system but because the majority of the data is from the VTX to the VRX that this does seem to have a bigger impact on range than expected by just boosting the power on one end.
@MrStevegibb Actually the goggles do increase output too, and it doesn't matter if you're using the V1 goggles, Goggles X or VRX etc. It's true that the tx upstream from the goggles doesn't need anything like as much bandwidth as the video downstream.
Looking really good and this distance at this altitude is very impressive. Any issues with the temp on the vtx? I know it has a fan, just wondered how bad the max power can heat the vtx up.
Sorry if this is a silly question but how are you getting the VTX power and link quality to show in the OSD? I can only ever see it in the goggles display and it's very hard to see in the corner. nearly impossible.
@MasterYota1 The 25mw is showing the transmit power from the eLRS module. I've got it set on dynamic so it will increase the output as needed. You can see sometimes it jumps up a bit. 25mw can travel much further than many realise.
@Crunklefloop Nice! Your video helped me finally make my mind up . Instead of Dji 03, I got Avatr Gt. Thanks a bunch for your good video explaining everything.
I'm using the goggles x v2 and the walksnail Avatar GT Kit but before I arm I have to be almost on top of the drone or I lose video signal, thought it was a factory defect,got a replacement and it does the same. Have you had any issues like this?
@HowardPhillips46 this is normal for the GT. When not armed it goes into a low power mode (which is much lower than the othwr VTXs due tonl the GT having internal ceramic antennas). When armed you'll have full power and excellent performance.
@Crunklefloop I appreciate the information I've been afraid to use it,my moonlight Kit doesn't do that so yeah I was worried. Thanks I feel better knowing that it's normal
try max mbps mode , full range one way with good altitude !! would have been nice to know what this system can do with goggles only. my dji 03 unit can do easy 23.4 km ONE way with single crosshair true rc antennas , and i guess this 03 is 1,2W . in theory this gt system should do easy 40 km with goggles only. great flight btw.
@christianmong-hansen1835 Yes, I've already flown this 40km with goggles on a different plane, but I had to climb higher. In this test flight, I wanted to see what it was like at lower altitudes, though. The O3 system is rated at 33dBm which is the same as this Walksnail VTX. Sadly DJI put a hard limit into their software though so they'll never manage the range of Walksnail. Already this system has been flown 55km on stock VTX antennas.
@@Crunklefloop are you serious ? so you did 40 km with goggles on your face ? NO ground station ?? thats awesome ! , yes your 10 km low altitude flight was also great, signal was super stable, yeah but the 55 km was on a "light" ground station with huge antennas.
Is this video from goggles or from vtx recording and was there any post processing involved? The picture is so clear. I never get such an image with my dji v2 and caddx vista nebula pro set up.
This is DVR from the goggles. If I use the VTX recording I normally run it though Gyroflow. In terms of footage in the field The DJI V2's are 810p IIRC so slightly lower res than the 1080p OLED's of Walksnail Goggles. I think the nebula pro also runs at 720p against 1080p of Walksnail too.
@@src2920 If you're not needing HDMI in/out I would go with the Goggles L as they're nicely made and considerably cheaper than the Goggles X. The stock foam is so-so however you can use aftermarket foam for other Goggles which improves the fit greatly.
I see that the Avatar GT has a rated input voltage of at least 11.1v. I assume you sometimes run you battery pack below that. Do you have any experience with how it behaves? Brownout? Degraded signal strength? Can it be damaged by it?
@frumargo I'm using 4S and powering the VTX off Vbat. So it doesn't dip below 11.1V You won't damage it, however it's likely to just shut down below 11.1v
I have never been able to turn on the 2w setting. That setting is not available in my goggles menu, and I can't find any information on his to make it happen. And walksnail customer service is just plain non-existent. I'll never buy another walksnail product again.
@WeTrudgeOn you need to flash firmware version 38.43.4 or higher on the Goggles/VRX to display the 2W power. You'll also need to have performed the FCC power unlock if you haven't already.
@Crunklefloop Is that firmware available on the walksnail site? I have no idea how to do the power unlock. The application is a surface vehicle in the middle of nowhere, so there will be no bleed over issues.
@WeTrudgeOn there's a newer version out now, it's available here. caddxfpv.com/pages/download-center Note that there's also the FCC unlock procedure instructions there too. It just includes saving a file named avatar_pwr.txt onto the SD card.
Excellent eyesight sir! (wink wink) 😛
@@xjet Call me Pete Townshend :-D
Outstanding demonstration 😊
Good video, great video quality and performance! Thanks for sharing w us!
Amazing setup! I always wanted this plane, one day! 🎉
My gt arrived today ,great vid keep em coming👍
Awesome 👏🏼 10,5km @50mts altitude . 👌🏻
thanks, been waiting for someone to showcase this vtx
Great test. Enjoyed the commentary as well. Seems like a great result on that vtx!
I got better performance with my antennas poking out the bottom of my wing.
Absolutely awesome
What's interesting to me is that obviously this is only a power boost on one end of 2 way system but because the majority of the data is from the VTX to the VRX that this does seem to have a bigger impact on range than expected by just boosting the power on one end.
@MrStevegibb Actually the goggles do increase output too, and it doesn't matter if you're using the V1 goggles, Goggles X or VRX etc.
It's true that the tx upstream from the goggles doesn't need anything like as much bandwidth as the video downstream.
Glad she got sent rather than sat in my loft lol.. Great vid…
Hehe - Thanks for selling up 😀
Was it 50 meters or 30 meters at 10km🤔 either way still amazing. Will have to buy one and test the range in my area.
I don't know exactly as the altitude shown from above my take off point. Either way, it was pretty low. lol
Looking really good and this distance at this altitude is very impressive. Any issues with the temp on the vtx? I know it has a fan, just wondered how bad the max power can heat the vtx up.
No issues with overheating whatsoever. It has good ventilation though.
Sorry if this is a silly question but how are you getting the VTX power and link quality to show in the OSD? I can only ever see it in the goggles display and it's very hard to see in the corner. nearly impossible.
that's the ELRS transmitter power and link quality
So you are at 8000 meters and you tx says 25 mw? Why is it not showing more?
@MasterYota1 The 25mw is showing the transmit power from the eLRS module. I've got it set on dynamic so it will increase the output as needed. You can see sometimes it jumps up a bit.
25mw can travel much further than many realise.
@Crunklefloop Nice! Your video helped me finally make my mind up . Instead of Dji 03, I got Avatr Gt. Thanks a bunch for your good video explaining everything.
@@MasterYota1 Thank you for your kind words. I hope you enjoying the Avatar GT as much as I do!
I'm using the goggles x v2 and the walksnail Avatar GT Kit but before I arm I have to be almost on top of the drone or I lose video signal, thought it was a factory defect,got a replacement and it does the same. Have you had any issues like this?
@HowardPhillips46 this is normal for the GT. When not armed it goes into a low power mode (which is much lower than the othwr VTXs due tonl the GT having internal ceramic antennas). When armed you'll have full power and excellent performance.
@Crunklefloop I appreciate the information I've been afraid to use it,my moonlight Kit doesn't do that so yeah I was worried. Thanks I feel better knowing that it's normal
@HowardPhillips46 I understand, I was a bit surprised at first too.
But yes, completely normal. I hope you enjoy the GT VTX as much as I do :-)
@Crunklefloop thanks
Whereabouts in the UK are you Crunkle?
I'm in the South West.
@@Crunklefloop Ahh ok - I've just emailed.
try max mbps mode , full range one way with good altitude !! would have been nice to know what this system can do with goggles only.
my dji 03 unit can do easy 23.4 km ONE way with single crosshair true rc antennas , and i guess this 03 is 1,2W . in theory this gt system should do easy 40 km with goggles only.
great flight btw.
@christianmong-hansen1835 Yes, I've already flown this 40km with goggles on a different plane, but I had to climb higher.
In this test flight, I wanted to see what it was like at lower altitudes, though.
The O3 system is rated at 33dBm which is the same as this Walksnail VTX. Sadly DJI put a hard limit into their software though so they'll never manage the range of Walksnail. Already this system has been flown 55km on stock VTX antennas.
@@Crunklefloop are you serious ? so you did 40 km with goggles on your face ? NO ground station ?? thats awesome ! , yes your 10 km low altitude flight was also great, signal was super stable, yeah but the 55 km was on a "light" ground station with huge antennas.
@christianmong-hansen1835 Hehe, yes indeed. I use the V1 Goggles with TrueRC X2-air antennas.
I will build a ground station at some point though.
@@Crunklefloop How many? two X2-air or four X2-air on your Goggles?
@@dongyunlee9185 I'm using 4
Is this video from goggles or from vtx recording and was there any post processing involved? The picture is so clear. I never get such an image with my dji v2 and caddx vista nebula pro set up.
This is DVR from the goggles. If I use the VTX recording I normally run it though Gyroflow.
In terms of footage in the field The DJI V2's are 810p IIRC so slightly lower res than the 1080p OLED's of Walksnail Goggles. I think the nebula pro also runs at 720p against 1080p of Walksnail too.
Thank you. For quite sometime considering to try the WS system. Would you recommend going directly to the avatar X or perhaps try the goggles L?
@@src2920 If you're not needing HDMI in/out I would go with the Goggles L as they're nicely made and considerably cheaper than the Goggles X. The stock foam is so-so however you can use aftermarket foam for other Goggles which improves the fit greatly.
I see that the Avatar GT has a rated input voltage of at least 11.1v. I assume you sometimes run you battery pack below that. Do you have any experience with how it behaves? Brownout? Degraded signal strength? Can it be damaged by it?
@frumargo I'm using 4S and powering the VTX off Vbat. So it doesn't dip below 11.1V
You won't damage it, however it's likely to just shut down below 11.1v
@@CrunklefloopGood to know! Thanks a lot. 😊
I have never been able to turn on the 2w setting. That setting is not available in my goggles menu, and I can't find any information on his to make it happen. And walksnail customer service is just plain non-existent. I'll never buy another walksnail product again.
@WeTrudgeOn you need to flash firmware version 38.43.4 or higher on the Goggles/VRX to display the 2W power. You'll also need to have performed the FCC power unlock if you haven't already.
@Crunklefloop Is that firmware available on the walksnail site? I have no idea how to do the power unlock. The application is a surface vehicle in the middle of nowhere, so there will be no bleed over issues.
@WeTrudgeOn there's a newer version out now, it's available here.
caddxfpv.com/pages/download-center
Note that there's also the FCC unlock procedure instructions there too. It just includes saving a file named avatar_pwr.txt onto the SD card.