Frieza: I'm the strongest being in the Universe! Android 19: Hold my Head Android 17: Hold my Scarf Android 18: Hold my Jacket Android 16: Hold my Bird Cell: Hold my Androids Buu: Hold my Chocolate Golden Frieza: Hold my what now? Beerus: ZzZzZ Jiren: Hold my Gods of Destruction Zeno: Hold my Multiverse Tori-Bot: Hold my Anime
i dont think Freeza will ever be good, but i DO think Freeza has learned the same lesson Vegeta did. Without a rival, he cannot continue to get stronger. and if he doesnt get stronger, someone else even more powerful could always come along. so for the sake of his continued escalation in power, he should tolerate goku and vegeta's existence and use them to better himself via occasional bouts. maybe turn it into a yearly event. go fight, come back, what did we learn? what can i do to improve so next time i can get the upper hand? rine, repeat. the only point where i think freeza would finally do away with the saiyans and earth is if he ever surpassed them so completely and utterly that he always wins their yearly fights by a comfortable enough margin that he can safely say he has nothing left to learn from them. that would be a more complete revenge anyways.
Basically keeping an enemy around to test himself against, and maybe learn some morals/reason in the process (Why blow up a city by fighting inside it, if you could easily enslave the inhabitants later?), rather than being hellbent on wiping them out. And down the line, when their relationship has warmed up after a few years, there comes a moment that goes like this (because if Goku can befriend the literal God of Destruction, why not?): Freeza: "I have returned, Little Monkey! Time to prove your worth!" Goku: "Huh, Hi Freeza! You're early this time. We'll fight in a moment, Chi-Chi just made Dinner. Wanna join?" Freeza: *grumbles, but isn't above a free meal* "Sure, why not..."
Golden Frieza took Frieza 4 months 30+31+30+31=122 days Saiyans took years So Frieza just have to train for a week and he would be the strongest being in the universe besides beerus
Eddy9lives the point is that if Frieza trains even more the sayians won’t be able to keep up with him because Frieza can achieve something that the saiyans cant achieve in years in just 4 months
Then youd get all the "Goten Black" nonsense started back up. And personally I dont find that idea interesting at all. Not sure why that was such a big thing for awhile lol
@@xxka0tikkxx If Goten was born in Future Trunks' timeline I don't see him becoming Goten Black. Future Gohan would have 2 kids to teach and we'd get 2 Super Saiyans, obviously Gohan's death would cause Goten to go SSJ it is his brother. They might even go beyond SSJ into the Grade forms since there would be more saiyans to train together thus rendering going to the past not being a thing.
@@BenFranklin89 Dude, you read my mind. I love the idea of an anime centered around Future Goten and Future Trunks becoming the protectors of Earth, and training a new generation of warriors.
and then maybe Trunks then has to leave behind Goten to fight Black and protect humans. Then when Trunks returns, him and Goten Fight Black (and lose) , then they have would’ve retreated, and learned Fusion
Frieza turning good has actually been done very well twice in fanfictions. Both "Savior Of Demons" and "The Fall of Lord Frieza" are about this. "Savior Of Demons" is about Frieza and King Cold coming to Earth and facing Goku instead of Trunks. After Goku defeats Frieza and kills Cold, he pretty much forces Frieza to stay on Earth and change his ways. In "The Fall of Lord Frieza" Frieza chooses not to attack after being given energy and he survives Namek, gets healed, trains, but he faces a rebellion, his planet gets destroyed, and other stuff happens to him that makes him decide to change his ways and be good. Both stories are great and I highly recommend people read them. They can be found on fanfiction.net
Frieza never goes beyond his 1st form, Ginyu Force won't be needed, King Cold and Frieza kills all the namekians(Guru as well), since Guru is dead, no Namekian Dragon Balls so no Piccolo revived on Namek, Frieza & King Cold kills Goku and co., Namek destroyed, the Saiyan and Namekian races are extinct(except Broly and Paragus).
@@cameronheaton9900 we do, but that's centered around Gine, Gohan is kind of off to the side aside from when Bulma first meets them and when King Piccolo was in the picture. He got hardly any screen time for that What If
Depending on your interpretation, the answer could be "not a lot", or "a pretty fair bit." It all depends on how you'd answer a few key questions. First off, I'm going to assume that he survives by thinking to cut off the tail, already knowing from prior experiences living with Goku that grabbing his tail makes him weak. I'm also going to borrow from the Gine What If, with Gohan's solution being to get a pair of sunglasses that Goku must wear at night at all times. Now, this is where two key questions come in. The first: does Gohan tell Goku that *he* is the "giant monster" that he told him about after he transformed the first time? If you'd say "yes," then Goku would very likely obey Gohan's instruction to always wear the sunglasses at night, and would likely grow up with an innate fear of slipping up and hurting those he cares about by transforming-a pretty significant change to his usual carefree personality. If not, Goku could forget and cause more destruction in that form accidentally. This then leads into the second question: would Gohan allow Goku to keep his tail or not? May not seem like a major change, but remember, his tail has given him an advantage in a few fights, and his transformation while they were held by Pilaf led to the gang's successful escape. Moving on, Gohan being alive in any case would mean that Goku would receive far more instruction in the ways of martial arts than he likely got from Gohan before he died, making him far stronger at the start of the series than he was. As a result, most of their early threats likely wouldn't have been as much trouble, particularly the likes of Yamcha. Like in the Gine What If, Gohan probably wouldn't travel with Goku and Bulma, content with seeing the dragon being summoned for himself once they're done. If Goku transforms or finds another means of escape from Pilaf, Goku will likely still train with Roshi while Gohan comes along to see his old mentor again. His greater innate strength could provoke an upgrade in their training methods that results in a massive power increase, but more likely it'll just give him a slight boost that allows him to narrowly defeat Roshi in the 21st Tournament. That seems like a good stopping point where you can build off from there. These are just my particular thoughts on the subject, anyway.
These would be (imo) great places for Frieza to have his grand second coming: At the Cell Games: Blowing Cell's head off after Satan's "fight" but before Goku's. This time no nucleus in every cell. At the Budokai Tenkaichi: being matched up against Goten in Trunks' place. Torturing him because he resembles Goku. Outside of Babidi's Spaceship: blowing it up when Gohan's fight starts to drag on but before Vegeta loses his cool. And yes, in two of these three scenario's he hiyacks the role of main villain of the arc. I personally like the second scenario the most because you have to wonder: how would the Buu arc have gone if a powerful Frieza was there?
Cell would be hugely weaker without Freeza visiting Earth again with his father. Cell wouldn't have Freeza's DNA. No "I can breathe in space" for Cell!
@@bobjoe4847 Yes and he certainly would rather live alone and train as hard as he can to get payback on Goku for his father. And after that, world domination of Earth. Thankfully Mr. Piccolo became a better person after he became a second dad to Gohan.
If things played out this way, I'd personally want Vegeta to develop. Mecha Freeza vs Vegeta leading to evolution seems fitting. Goku didn't have much connection to his Saiyan roots, but Vegeta on the other hand can't stop going on about Saiyans. I would also like to see Piccolo shine a bit too, maybe even as a good match for King Cold? It wouldn't hurt to have New Ginyu Force equivalent team to face off against the humans and Gohan. Okay, I'm babbling. The thing is... it doesn't always have to be Goku this, Goku that. Let others develop a bit because Goku hardly gets any development as a character from his experiences.
@@tron9683 He did, "What if Future Gohan survived?" In that one, no one ever went back in time. I'm suggesting that during the fight were Gohan loses his arm, Trunks loses his legs. Now that Trunks can't be a fighter, Gohan is forced to wait until the Time machine is ready, because there's no one left to replace him if he dies to the Future Androids.
@@cond.oriano3264 Not nessecarily. A couple of things I've thought of are: 1.) F-Gohan wouldn't have to conceal his identity, because present Gohan is already born. 2.) F-Gohan was much stronger than F-Trunks before they trained in the Hyperbolic Timechamber. So, after leaving the chamber, he could be stronger than Vegeta, or even Goku. 3.) F-Gohan might kill Android 18 and or Semi-Perfect Cell on sight (after leaving the time chamber), since he's lived so long trying to rid his world of them. 4.) Assuming the Cell Games end the same way, F-Gohan might encourage present Gohan to maintain his fighting spirit/skills during the years of peace. 5.) During the Goku Black arc, F-Gohan could play a far more active role since he would be stronger than Trunks. 6.) If Present Gohan maintained his skills over the years, we could have him help during the Goku Black arc. (Maybe even a F-Gohan + P-Gohan fusion help Vegito Blue fight Merged Zamasu!)
Zach Ruggiero YES! That’s the answer because King Cold, Chilled and Frieza lack the genes to go to their next forms. Luckily, all Frost Mutants can turn Golden if they train. Assuming King Cold can transform is like assuming Vegeta can turn SSJ2 in his fight against 18. How is it that no one else know this? Ok yeah it’s a theory but it makes sense if you think about it.
Zach Ruggiero frieza race’s create suppressed forms to keep their power in control. Frieza’s final form is his birth form. Same for Frost, Cooler and King Cold. The other forms (frieza and frost’s first, second and third forms and king colds second form) are not their initial forms meaning that cold dies have at least 2 other transformations after his current state. Cold’s second form was said to be comparable to frieza in his birth/final form which means that colds final form is immensely more powerful than frieza’s and by extension, a super Saiyan
So Frieza finds Goku on Yardrat, Goku starts to lose badly and instant transmissions back to Earth. Frieza will be there in so-and-so many days-months-etc so the Z-Fighters start abusing the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to catch up. Which leads to the most amazing battle ever...right after everyone deals with these two androids that just showed up.
What if Vegeta went Super Saiyan 2 when Cell Killed Trunks? I mean, Gohan went super saiyan 2 when he saw this robot dude who wasn't really a friend, more of an acquaintance to him. So, seeing your own son die in front of you (Even if Vegeta conceals it, he's proud of Trunks and loves him. The fact he lost his cool means he actually cared for him), should have a similar if not more impactful effect on him. I know it might be a 'minor' thing and it could result in an anti-climatic scene in which Vegeta takes away Gohan's moment, but I'm positive if that had happened, the events in the Buu saga would've been different. Hell, maybe even Vegeta would've actually been even with Goku, because since all he does is training, it's not too far fetched to think he would've discovered Super Saiyan 3.
Don't think vegeta would go majin goku and vegeta would probably let buu be awakened and both trun super sayian 3 against him but start fighting themselves leading them both to lose the form before defeating majin buu.
@@devonstidham9234 I think, Vegeta would allow Majin Buu to come to life, just to prove to Goku he achieved a greater power than him (Super Saiyan 3.) But since SSJ3 isn't good enough to take down Majin Buu, and Goku deciding to transform as well, hoping 2 SSJ3 might be enough, Vegeta snaps. Because when he thought he finally was ahead of Goku, when he finally thought he could live up to his saiyan pride, Goku proves him once again, he's not the top dog. This would leave vegeta vulnerable to babidi's mind powers, seeing the chance to have a powerful allie beacuse Babidi knows 2 ssj3 might actually endanger his plans. In the anime he looked terrified when Goku showed him SSJ3, leave alone seeing 2 of them. So he decides the best way to resolve this, is letting vegeta and goku kill each other.
@@devonstidham9234 Perhaps, but consider this. Since Goku and Vegeta would be fighting each other in SSJ3, they both would be too exhausted by the end of the fight. And because Goku fought vegeta as SSJ3, he would be out of time to teach trunks and goten the fusion technique.
Frezia shouldnt be able to get as strong as he did in super. Rember this isn't his real body. His robitic body parts are holding him back because robotic parts dont have as much potential as an real body part.
@@theeshyguy not really, as we've seen technology raise to the level of our main heroes before this and even afterward. Star wars, tech weakens your connection to the Force, so that's not great as a Jedi (though you do get physical stat increases without having to amp your body with the Force), but that sort of thing has never been established in Dragonball to be something that matters or that their bodies are superior or anything and we even have fully cybernetic beings in the form of 16 or cyborgs in the form of 17&18 that quite literally would have torn our protagonists in half if they hadn't gotten a magical year of training. And that was likely even before Trunks's messing with the time stream possibly being responsible for the androids being leagues more powerful. In short there is no reason to believe that a scientist on Earth working in a secret lab would have better technology than a galaxy spanning military empire. Or that said technology would be "holding him back" when it was designed with him in mind and by scientist that understand his physiology.
@@timoylumontad3920 The Androids are not made of robotic parts. They are mostly biological. And even then their power levels did not improve that much between their introduction and Super, while the organic guys almost quadrupled their power levels. Kinda like Genos from One Punch Man really.
This is almost like listening to an audio book, and I love it! I really enjoyed how you got your ideas through in this video. I'm usually not that big of a fan of what if videos, but this one was a lot of fun!
I would go with Frieza finding Goku but not immediately, with Frieza's scouts coming back short of intel after a long search across the universe, he decides to finally visit (not destroy) Earth to see if Goku is there, only to stumble upon it during the later side of the android saga/early cell saga.
Well if this What If ends up being a multiparter, the Cell Saga will sure be interesting. But at the same time, this feels like a very contained story only concerning Goku and Frieza so whatever happens, happens. I'm only surprised that you didn't use Frieza's mechanical enhancements as a reason why he can't go Golden at this time. Seemed like an easy out just saying the enhancements could only handle so much change at once.
5th form would not be the final form, as stated by the maker of Dragon Ball. Freeza's 4th form is actually his True form. As the other forms were to suppress his massive power level, so in actuality. The number is reversed, 4th being the True form and the 1st being the 4th form. Cooler's supposedly 5th form is nothing but a Enhancement form, like a Super Saiyan transforming from Base form to Super Saiyan. The 5th form would be comparable to Kaioken, as it enhances Cooler's powers. Peace.
I say Freiza Finds Goku.....BUT! the time in which he decides to Find Goku is Different. Remember...in the Anime, Freiza After getting patched up decides to Land on Earth, only to be snuffed out by trunks!. WHat if, Freizas Arival was about 3 YEars AFTER instead of right after? Freiza Could Catch the Battle with the Androids, and in a moment of confusion and stubbornness, Sees Goku suffering from a Virus (Which of course an Antidote/Cure was provided by trunks earlyier) and basicly pulls a Vegeta and says.... OH...NO, I dident "Train" come this far, and not get the rematch I so Wanted due to a technicality....and more/less Assists in the Battle aginst Cell, WHich Because Freiza Did NOT go to earth when he did, Cell would not Have Freizas Cells,....but might still yet pose a challenge due to the Sayin cells?
That was actually my next question, how long did Frieza's training take? Goku achieved a form thought to be a legend by training his entire life, nearly dying, training at 100x the gravity he was used to being in WITH weighted clothes, having his body beaten shirtless, Zenkai boosting and then watching his best friend die. How long would it take a genius like Frieza to train to reach a level that it looks like only Cooler reached by just being Cooler
@@kyuubikid7971 your right, Frieza had trained for 4 months to reach a golden form after being revived. It's not entirely clear weather or not Hell/HFIL, allowed villians to Train, furthermore somehow Frieza went from hanging out with Cell and the like to I guess the same treatment as Dabura. Hmm...idk, I suppose we could assume in this What if, he either procrastinated or did Empire things for 3 years.
I think golden Frieza is a result of spiritual (i.e.ki) training along with physical training while the 5th form is a result of pure physical training by itself.
The idea of Frieza and Goku just passing by each other through space, like on complete accident, and doing that shot where both of them look surprised at each other before hastily pressing random buttons in order to stop sends me into a giggle fit.
Freeza: *using the space phone* "That prick better pick up." Cooler: *click* "Freeza? How's it going? I thought you were still recovering from that fiasco on Namek. I'd say you ran with your tail between your legs, but that'd be ironic." Freeza: "Ha ha, very funny. Now listen up, as much as it loathes me to say it, *sigh* I need your help." Cooler: "Freeza, we hate each other's guts. Why should I help you?" Freeza: "The Super Saiyan's real. One beat me on Namek. You can check my ship's black box if you want, but if we don't take care of it, the empire could fall." Cooler: *Silent for a few seconds* "Say I believe you. What do you want me to do?" Freeza: "Teach me how to get the 5th form." *Cue training montage!*
Ooohhhhhh so thats why you don't have any likes, cause the comment was a week ago, I didn't see that at first and I was wondering why such a good comment didn't have any likes, if you commented this when this video first came out you would've had a helluva bigger number of likes
I would like to know what would happen if Tien, Yamcha, Piccolo, and Chiaotzu all learned the Kaio Ken from King Kai. I also would like to know what would happen if Tien used the Mafuba on Cell and if Krillin was more accurate with his Kienzan (Destructo Disk ). Most importantly, though, I would like to know how Dr. Gero managed to make Android 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18 so much more powerful than a Super Saiyan without knowing what a Super Saiyan was, while making Android 19 and himself so much weaker by comparison. That doesn't seem to make much sense to me. If he already has the means to consistently create machines on that scale of power, why would he neglect to use such technology on himself?
Freiza finds Goku first out of pure hate for him years kater while Goku is busy with something else. Ah man why did you have to show up now. My friends and I are busy with...
Hrm... I don't recall... did the other androids have the energy-absorbing hands? I know that 19 and Gero did, but I know for a fact 17 and 18 didn't... Perhaps the reason that he had such weaker designs for the "latest" androids was because this new feature, quite similar to Cell's form of powering up by absorbing people, would allow for a greater potential in power, as opposed to the slower, human-like ability to power up that the others had? Hrm... or maybe, due to implementing the absorption device meant that he had to remove something else (only so much room in a human body, after all), which inadvertently caused the power drop? Also, we don't know what any of the androids were like before they were converted. It's possible that 19 (being fully machine) and 20 (a scientist) were the only ones who weren't actually warriors of some sort, already, and therefore, didn't have much of a power level to enhance... Also, 13,14 and 15 are all from an alternate timeline (possibly Cell's original timeline, but it's unconfirmed), as Gero destroyed them all in the main timeline, so there's no telling how long ago they were created, how long they've been active/training, or any of that... which could explain their massive power difference, as opposed to 17 and 18s, presumably, more negligible ones (when Gero went to them, he was already weakened/cornered, so the two on one was easy pickings). I WOULD point out that Gero managed to turn his own body into an android, and that might be the reason, but 19 was similarly weak, with the only main difference being the Yakon-like ability to absorb energy.
I never got why any of the androids would even be comparable, let alone stronger than a super saiyan to begin with. If Gero could make Androids that strong, he could have easily made Androids strong enough to kil Goku before all the power creep happened. Not even questioning why no inteligent race on any other planet would have succesfully made Androids of any significant power level in an attempt to save themselves from Freeza. The base power level of a human is really low and certain other races have far more advanced tech such as space travel; Thus if humans can make androids of that level, certain alian races can probably do so too.
@@Dragonoid269 I mean, it seems that humans, in general, are pretty unique. Ki sensing is a rare ability, it seems, universally (though some races, such as the Yardrats and the Namekians knew it, as well) and, apparently, human cuisine does not exist anywhere else in either Universe 6 and 7, other than Earth. Combined with people like Bulma (I mean, yeah, she's a genius, but bare with me) who, at the age of 5, had to repair a spaceship for Jaco (and would later go on to remark that the androids' schematics were incredibly advanced), and that Pilaf has an even greater mind for science than even her (according to Super, where he corrected her coding), so we know Bulma isn't even the smartest being on Earth, at all. It quickly becomes clear that Humans are actually incredibly advanced, though tend to not have as much desire to move from planet to planet. This may be due to the fact that there is, likely, little life in their region of the Universe, similar to how our Earth is the only habitable planet in our solar system. Although, past that, it's hard to say, for certain...
I think something thag would be INSANELY interesting is if he doesn't show up until the bui arc, this sounds too far fetched but keep in mind that if he truly wanted to savor it he would train enough to the point where goku wouldn't be able to do anything about freeza destroying earth. This leads to again not golden freeza but more of a perfected 5th form kinda like how goku and gohan made the base ssj form use basically no energy, now the cell saga/android saga plays out the same way but every now and then theres freeza force spies keeping eyes on the z-fighters now i say he wouldn't go and attack when goku gets a heart virus because theres cell and stronger z-fighters who may get in his way but once he sees gohan go ssj2 this gives him flash backs and infuriates him this is where the perfected 5th form comes in but he still feels like hes not strong enough but he notices someone who may be very useful..... babidi, this is because he finds him recruiting warriors to help awaken majin buu and in return they gain power, freeza is intrigued by the power boost only because deep down inside he knows he needs it, but instead of babidi recuiting him he inlist babidi as one of his top henchmen along with pui pui, dabura, etc. As they finish recruiting warriors they head to earth but freeza tells babidi to go on with his plan but to not say a word about the fact that he works for him. Right before majin buu is awakened freeza demands babidi to give him a power boost this happens after vegeta becomes a majin to ensure that he doesn't get in the way of their plan. But again right before majin buu is awakened freeza becomes majin and this catches goku off guard immediately. This power feels extremely familiar to him but he stugles to figure out who's it is but as soon as he figures it out, BAM vegeta knocks him out TO BE CONTINUED(depending on how many likes the comment grys or if masako uses the idea)
I like your headcannon, the only problem that I have with it is that, according to Resurrection of 'F,' Frieza stated that there were 2 peope in the universe that his father told him never to challenge: Majin Buu and Beerus the Destroyer. Sooooo, I don't think that he would be so apropos to the idea of joining forces with Babidi and unleashing Buu
Frieza would beat up Goku then do the same and leave him mangled and defeated, while Frieza laughs. Then Frieza would constantly up his training to make sure that Goku will not catch up to him.
They would make friends with him like they did with 16. Although they would be worried since he is far weaker than them. Unless they find a way to upgrade him with enough power to not be a liability.
Timoy Lumontad while I guess it doesn’t count, there is a what if mission in budikai Tenkaichi( I probably spelled that wrong) where Android 16 went back in time to kill Goku and Eighter was able to go toe to toe with 16 and perhaps even surpassed him in to protect Goku.
@@shard7549 I would guess Bulma had managed to upgrade Eighter enough to go toe to toe with 16 in defense of young Goku. Because realistically, 16 could have easily destroyed Eighter and killed young Goku shortly after that immediately.
Masako: “Freeza will never turn good” Also Masako: **creates a series about Freeza turning good, and then makes it one of his biggest series, possibly soon to be on par with R&R**
If you're being consistent, Cooler has shown that 5th Form Frieza *should* still be weaker than SSJ Goku, given that Cooler's behaviour implies he's at least almost as strong as his brother, and *his* 5th form was still beaten by Goku as well.
Plus, 4th form cooler was only at 50% final form frieza in terms of power. With his final form being about as strong as super saiyan future trunks at that point. The main reason goku had such a hard time against frieza was due to his body being weak from using kkx20 and not healing. Goku was fighting on fumes the entire time.
To me, Frieza is too far gone. He wouldn't, in character, ever consider changing his ways because of his iron stubbornness. It's just his presentation of being a selfish, ruthless dictator that sells this. Sure, Goku defeating him will provide a reality check for Frieza that there are warriors with potential rivaling his among the cosmos. Other than that, what else? He will still be compelled to strike down his vendetta for glory's sake, not be buddy-buddy with them all of a sudden.
That means he would bring the coolers armored squad and you could argue that they are all stronger than ginyu so frieza and cooler get there way way before goku even lands on namek
Honestly, now i just want a story where Freeza limps back to his ship, finds Golue trying to launch it, and is just like... "It's the green button on the left." And then they have to deal with each other while one is on deaths door but desperstely wants to the other dead, and the other just wants to get home and is "kind" enough(he cant fight him again if he dies), to stop the first guy from dying.
Love this video! Also I low key wanted you to say Frieza turns good lol. I agree that Frieza wouldn't go for gold just yet (pun intended) but I don't think he would start training until later. Him training was in response to hearing that Goku beat Majin Buu. I would say that going Fifth Form would be something he already knows how to do but never bothered achieving/using it at that point because why would he. How I see it playing out is like this. Much like in the Trunks saga. Frieza gets his mechanical parts and heads to earth to get his revenge.The difference being that during the fight with Trunks. Instead of using his Supernova on Trunks when he sees him go Super Saiyan. Frieza turns into his Fifth Form. He's able to completely match Trunks and gains the upper hand but in standard Frieza fashion. He didn't try out the form before hand. The size and power increase puts a lot of stress on his new limbs and they ultimately fail before he could kill Trunks. Frieza at this point is a sitting duck and when Trunks is about to finish him off with his sword. Goku arrives. Goku blocks the sword with his finger and lets Frieza go. Frieza leaves the planet in shame. Being spared a second time by Goku. Over the next few years. He pushes his scientists to find a way to bring his legs back. Each failure is met with the head scientist being killed. Now two things could happen. Like in Resurrection F. A new medical machine that can regenerate his limbs is finally made or with the constant yelling that King Cold would be giving Frieza. He would eventually snap and kill King Cold and take his legs for himself. Either way, by that time, Frieza hears that Goku has defeated Majin Buu and begins to train. Not satisfied with just obtaining his Golden Form. He continues to train until he can use the Golden Form while in his Fifth Form.
Wait, wouldn't Frieza grab his severed lower body before he would leave an exploding namek? I think his lower body was next to him when Goku spared him. It could probably be reattached to him with that alien tech. I mean I would've done that if I were Frieza, because that would be my lower body and would want that back attached to me.
Remember too is when frieza fired his final blast being split in half theres a chance it got evaporated in the process of goku blasting him or he was just too weak and couldn't carry it with his one arm and one eye
Problem with "5th form", unlike golden form, Frieza and Coolers forms are Backwards, they Revert to get stronger, and their final forms were their true form, so first form will instead become second, Second to third,and so on,
How about some kind of "What if ____ Never Turned Good?" I'm not entirely sure which character would be best for this, but it could be an interesting subversion on what you've done before.
Goku is too laxed to even bother looking for frieza. Although he yearns for battle, other then for sport like with tournaments or sparing, goku never really actually seeks out a fight. He always is either fighting for fun or letting fights come to him. And even then, he has shown, especially in the Z saga, he doesn't want the need to fight evil. He only hopes for everyone to be good and for fighting to be a means of entertainment, of again, sport. At his dumbest, he hopes frieza to turn good. At his smartest, he just continues his training like he did in the original saga. You forget, even in your timeline of events, goku comes out learning how strong his enemies can get and that drives him to push himself like it always has. He's not gonna waste his time to seek out a fight. He's gonna wait till last minute like he always does as to give both himself and his enemies as much time as possible for them to both get stronger. Frieza on the other hand, he'd be impatient. He'd be angry at his lost, but at the same time, rather excited to see what this new form can do to such a lowly monkey. The taste of revenge is such a sweet taste (or rather, salty, seeing his taste in hell) in our lords mouth. Like with golden frieza, he is confident in his ability and will chase down goku almost immidately after reaching his new form just because that's who he is. However, this begs the question if form 5 Frieza is to play out similarly to how golden frieza turned out, how does effect our favorite evil emperor in the super arc when he's brought back? Just what he learn from what ultimately would be another frieza lost? What choiced would have been altered in super seeing as how he wouldn't want to repeat his mistakes. Also, why are you spelling Frieza wrong in the title and spelling it 2 different ways in the description?
I meant it as actively seeking out and searching for the other to fight them. Sorta like tracking down and hunting a wild animal for sport. Except instead of wild animals, it's rivals and wild monkeys. That's more of a freeza or frieza thing then a goku thing.
Please take a moment to read and think about what I'm about to type out. I believe Goku should find Frieza. Adding in a little flare to the plot. We could assume Vegeta will rush the reunion. Eventually he will begin his voyage into space during his pilgrimage of becoming a ss. Think about it from Frieza's perspective. When consumed with the idea of Frieza must become stronger to assert his role as an emperor to his people. It leads him to train and foucs his mastary of his 5th form. Various ki blasts and changes to his movesets. It also would be a nice flare to the story. During his voyages of exploration through out the cosmos, he stumbles upon Vegeta training. Frieza certainly believes this would make a great opportunity to try out his new found strength. I'm sure the two of them would comply to such a duel and I leave that to you on how that happens 😆 But the sheer amount of ferosity in this battle would definitely trigger Goku to practice his instant transmission. Think about it. We saw him do this in the series when Vegeta was training. So it makes perfect sense if Goku appears this way and meets up with Frieza first.
I wonder. Had Freeza still had that scouter that was given to him, by Captain Ginyu, and when he copied data of the regenerative ability of the Namekians shown to him, by Nail, could he have used that to regenerate himself?
But he can canonically unlock Golden Frieza by getting more powerful, so I think he can create more forms (at any place he wants, so he can chose to create a new 2nd form and the others will just slide of one position) to redestribute the amount of total energy better
Waiting on a part 2, remember masakox we are all looking forward to a what if Broly turned good part 4. Gonna have a lot of what ifs to create with this one added onto all of them.
Been following your channel for a while and was wondering if I could get your thoughts on this. I don't know if it was directly mentioned in Super but lets say Hypothetically Universe 7 loses the ToP. Would the Super Dragonballs disappear as well? Because if the creator of the Dragonballs die, whether it were Kami, Guru, Dende, etc. the Dragonballs become inert. So using that rule as my basis, is it safe to assume that the creator of the Super Dragonballs is still alive in some way, shape or form and if Universe 7 were to be erased would the Super Dragonballs be erased as well? I know they weren't when Universe 6 was erased and the Super Dragonballs were spread between those 2 universes so you can make the educated guess that the creator was native to Universe 7. Would love to get your thoughts on this.
Interesting proposition at the very least. Though it may also have been implied that the creator of the super dragon balls may actually be more powerful than the currently known gods. Another possibility is the super balls are not linked to their creator the same way the normal ones are, this may be due to the fact that the normal ones are actually fragments of the super balls and perhaps the reason the dragon balls become stones upon their "creators" death is that these individuals don't actually create them but their life force sustains them and perhaps in return the balls magic then extends the lives of their creators, not making them truly immortal but undying due to age or disease.
It's never stated or even implied that Zarama exists anywhere in the mortal realm, or if he's still alive at all. For all we know, he could be the Super Dragon Ball Dragon himself living in his own plane of existence. The SDBs themselves can be destroyed, though, as proven by Zamasu, so if Zeno willed it, he could probably outright destroy them if they happen to be in an erased universe at the time. Therefore, it's impossible to determine that even if they did disappear with the universe's erasure.
I am curious if Frieza would regain his lost limbs with his 5th form. After all I kind of remember him regrowing his tail when he went into his final form despite having it hacked off in a previous one. Though it might of just been lazy animators forgetting it was gone.
The portion of the tail that Frieza lost in his second form was actually part of the armor he grows to supress his power, his real tail was never cut by Krillin.
I think both Goku and Vegeta would go find freeza. I'm sure that they'd both have felt Freezas power when he transformed and killed all of his people, since goku was probably still on yardrat and Vegeta was busy crying on the moon about not being super sayian. Maybe that even could be a catalyst for him to obtain it earlier.
What if Cooler was canon to the main story? What if Goku ended up stopping his training, but the others continued? What if Turles turned good? What if Kid Buu / Super Buu become an ally? What if Goku stayed dead in the Majin Saga? What if the Ginyu Force, the entire team, survived? What if Gohan was the first super saiyan? What if Yamcha had kept training? ( I like Yamcha. )
Knowing Freeza, he will most likely want to coax Goku into finding him first. Perhaps hurting his friends or taking them hostage. He did toy them around for a bit in Resurrection F.
I believe goku would probably find freeza first, or at least be aware of him, because of energy sensing, the same reason that he was able to help on earth with teleportation, so if goku knew freeza was alive he could search for freeza's energy, or even look with king kai's help, and easily find where freeza was...
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MasakoX: I'd NEVER turn Freeza good
Also MasakoX: *turns him good a year later in a new what if series*
Masako-San noticed me!😂
Frieza: I'm the strongest being in the Universe!
Android 19: Hold my Head
Android 17: Hold my Scarf
Android 18: Hold my Jacket
Android 16: Hold my Bird
Cell: Hold my Androids
Buu: Hold my Chocolate
Golden Frieza: Hold my what now?
Beerus: ZzZzZ
Jiren: Hold my Gods of Destruction
Zeno: Hold my Multiverse
Tori-Bot: Hold my Anime
C r U n C h
Omni King:Bye Bye!
C r U n C h zeno:hold my tournament of power
Broly: Hold my K A K A R O T
Tori-Bot: Hold my Brush*
Toppo: Hold my Hakai
What if Frieza went to Fake Namek instead?
Wasn't canon in the manga.
@Aaron DeVack
It's a what-if. does it really matter?
Frieza blows the whole planet up. The end.
He would realize it after a while and go to real Namek a bit later than originally.
@ After casually blowing up that stupid fake planet. 😂😂😂
i dont think Freeza will ever be good, but i DO think Freeza has learned the same lesson Vegeta did. Without a rival, he cannot continue to get stronger. and if he doesnt get stronger, someone else even more powerful could always come along. so for the sake of his continued escalation in power, he should tolerate goku and vegeta's existence and use them to better himself via occasional bouts. maybe turn it into a yearly event. go fight, come back, what did we learn? what can i do to improve so next time i can get the upper hand? rine, repeat. the only point where i think freeza would finally do away with the saiyans and earth is if he ever surpassed them so completely and utterly that he always wins their yearly fights by a comfortable enough margin that he can safely say he has nothing left to learn from them. that would be a more complete revenge anyways.
Basically keeping an enemy around to test himself against, and maybe learn some morals/reason in the process (Why blow up a city by fighting inside it, if you could easily enslave the inhabitants later?), rather than being hellbent on wiping them out.
And down the line, when their relationship has warmed up after a few years, there comes a moment that goes like this (because if Goku can befriend the literal God of Destruction, why not?):
Freeza: "I have returned, Little Monkey! Time to prove your worth!"
Goku: "Huh, Hi Freeza! You're early this time. We'll fight in a moment, Chi-Chi just made Dinner. Wanna join?"
Freeza: *grumbles, but isn't above a free meal* "Sure, why not..."
companyoflosers g
I think he figured it out
Golden Frieza took Frieza 4 months
30+31+30+31=122 days
Saiyans took years
So Frieza just have to train for a week and he would be the strongest being in the universe besides beerus
Lol 4488 goku & vegeta are far stronger than golden frieza by now though
obliterator deathcon 4 i don’t think soooo didn’t goku kill him? haha
JacobJewfro no
Golden Frieza was stronger than both of them
Frieza only lost bc he didn’t master the form and lost too much stamina
At the same time tho, blue was relatively new to them too. Plus they always have fusion
Eddy9lives the point is that if Frieza trains even more the sayians won’t be able to keep up with him because Frieza can achieve something that the saiyans cant achieve in years in just 4 months
I think the reason shy freiza's guts never fell out was that the giant purple pizzas cartarized the wound. Much like a hot plasma based weapon would.
ssj4 ViKing smart
Or telekinesis
Maybe whatever race Freiza is just doesn't have organs
nope, it was just to avoid being too graphic.
@@renatoramos8834 Well yeah, but logic dictates cauterization.
Short answer: Everyone would probably be dead
Depends on the Dr.Gero's shitstorm.
16 probably would be able to handle this new freeza.
@@dan_loup Or even Super Android 13.
My Trucker HAT!
@@Unconventional03 Android 13: "Ya plum-done-gone-dad-gum did it now, son!"
Frieza: "Who and what the-Aaaaaaahhhhh!!!"
😂😂😂
Androids don't matter. They die when Freeza blows the planet up. "You can all go to hell without me!"
If Freeza would have listened to Goku he would have gotten...cooler😎
and become and even bigger prick
Steve Flair get em
Kill the bald one.
YEAH!!!!
SHOTS FIRED
Frieza: I'm the strongest ever!
Arale: Hold my Vegeta.
Vegeta: *Groans from other side of wall*
Goku: Gotcha.
EXCUSE ME HAVE YOU STOLE AN ORIGINAL COMMENT?
W H E E Z E
Vegeta can never get a break
"Golden Frieza is loved by the community."
This is literally the first nice thing I have ever heard about Golden Frieza.
What if Goten was born in Future Trunks' timeline?
We gotta make this happen
Then youd get all the "Goten Black" nonsense started back up. And personally I dont find that idea interesting at all. Not sure why that was such a big thing for awhile lol
@@xxka0tikkxx If Goten was born in Future Trunks' timeline I don't see him becoming Goten Black. Future Gohan would have 2 kids to teach and we'd get 2 Super Saiyans, obviously Gohan's death would cause Goten to go SSJ it is his brother. They might even go beyond SSJ into the Grade forms since there would be more saiyans to train together thus rendering going to the past not being a thing.
@@BenFranklin89 Dude, you read my mind. I love the idea of an anime centered around Future Goten and Future Trunks becoming the protectors of Earth, and training a new generation of warriors.
and then maybe Trunks then has to leave behind Goten to fight Black and protect humans.
Then when Trunks returns, him and Goten Fight Black (and lose) , then they have would’ve retreated, and learned Fusion
Later, the Frieza empire made a whole bode regeneration machine.
It will take time.
oh yeah regenerate that bode
Everybode, shake your bode. Yeahhhh
One that brings back the soul to bodies aswell lol
Frieza turning good has actually been done very well twice in fanfictions. Both "Savior Of Demons" and "The Fall of Lord Frieza" are about this. "Savior Of Demons" is about Frieza and King Cold coming to Earth and facing Goku instead of Trunks. After Goku defeats Frieza and kills Cold, he pretty much forces Frieza to stay on Earth and change his ways. In "The Fall of Lord Frieza" Frieza chooses not to attack after being given energy and he survives Namek, gets healed, trains, but he faces a rebellion, his planet gets destroyed, and other stuff happens to him that makes him decide to change his ways and be good. Both stories are great and I highly recommend people read them. They can be found on fanfiction.net
FoLF is a great fanfic
Oh, I know the author of Saviour of Demons
WHAT IF GOKU LISTENED TO FRIEZA?
What if goku listened to chichi
What If you changed your horrifying profile pic?
Buu is suddenly much much more terrifying
@@to2wacze612 this made me laugh.
@@to2wacze612 Realistic super buu
Frieza, inmediately after flying away from Namek: "Dad, Namek exploded and i lost my legs, can you please pick me up?"
Cold: Ok my Little Princess
N O I C E
What if King Cold came to Namek with Frieza
oof
Dead Goku
Death
Frieza never goes beyond his 1st form, Ginyu Force won't be needed, King Cold and Frieza kills all the namekians(Guru as well), since Guru is dead, no Namekian Dragon Balls so no Piccolo revived on Namek, Frieza & King Cold kills Goku and co., Namek destroyed, the Saiyan and Namekian races are extinct(except Broly and Paragus).
SPOILER: Everyone dies.
That would be hilarious seeing them bump into each other like “Gah! It’s Freezer!” and “Gah! It’s the monkey!”
Agreed !
Lol.😆
Frieza not freezer, he’s not a kitchen appliance
@@joeramsay6269 It's a DBZ Abridged reference.
Isaiah Toro I don’t watch that
What if grandpa Gohan didn't die? How would that affect the Dragon Ball story?
We have that in What if Gine went to Earth.
@@cameronheaton9900 we do, but that's centered around Gine, Gohan is kind of off to the side aside from when Bulma first meets them and when King Piccolo was in the picture. He got hardly any screen time for that What If
Depending on your interpretation, the answer could be "not a lot", or "a pretty fair bit." It all depends on how you'd answer a few key questions.
First off, I'm going to assume that he survives by thinking to cut off the tail, already knowing from prior experiences living with Goku that grabbing his tail makes him weak.
I'm also going to borrow from the Gine What If, with Gohan's solution being to get a pair of sunglasses that Goku must wear at night at all times.
Now, this is where two key questions come in. The first: does Gohan tell Goku that *he* is the "giant monster" that he told him about after he transformed the first time? If you'd say "yes," then Goku would very likely obey Gohan's instruction to always wear the sunglasses at night, and would likely grow up with an innate fear of slipping up and hurting those he cares about by transforming-a pretty significant change to his usual carefree personality. If not, Goku could forget and cause more destruction in that form accidentally. This then leads into the second question: would Gohan allow Goku to keep his tail or not? May not seem like a major change, but remember, his tail has given him an advantage in a few fights, and his transformation while they were held by Pilaf led to the gang's successful escape.
Moving on, Gohan being alive in any case would mean that Goku would receive far more instruction in the ways of martial arts than he likely got from Gohan before he died, making him far stronger at the start of the series than he was. As a result, most of their early threats likely wouldn't have been as much trouble, particularly the likes of Yamcha. Like in the Gine What If, Gohan probably wouldn't travel with Goku and Bulma, content with seeing the dragon being summoned for himself once they're done.
If Goku transforms or finds another means of escape from Pilaf, Goku will likely still train with Roshi while Gohan comes along to see his old mentor again. His greater innate strength could provoke an upgrade in their training methods that results in a massive power increase, but more likely it'll just give him a slight boost that allows him to narrowly defeat Roshi in the 21st Tournament.
That seems like a good stopping point where you can build off from there. These are just my particular thoughts on the subject, anyway.
What if Raditz went with Goku to earth
Could see radditz arrive after frandoq gohan died and radditz would enjoy the calm life of the woods until bulma runs over goku.
@@devonstidham9234 Raditz x Bulma
He would probably have just done what the original mission was: Exterminate/Enslave the planet for Frieza
What if Raditz and Nappa went with Goku?
These would be (imo) great places for Frieza to have his grand second coming:
At the Cell Games: Blowing Cell's head off after Satan's "fight" but before Goku's. This time no nucleus in every cell.
At the Budokai Tenkaichi: being matched up against Goten in Trunks' place. Torturing him because he resembles Goku.
Outside of Babidi's Spaceship: blowing it up when Gohan's fight starts to drag on but before Vegeta loses his cool.
And yes, in two of these three scenario's he hiyacks the role of main villain of the arc.
I personally like the second scenario the most because you have to wonder: how would the Buu arc have gone if a powerful Frieza was there?
Cell would be hugely weaker without Freeza visiting Earth again with his father. Cell wouldn't have Freeza's DNA. No "I can breathe in space" for Cell!
I don’t think that Freeza would be matched with Goten in the kids division.
Frieza: I can breathe in space...
Goku: But space is a vacuum
Golu wont say something so smart
@@prithunath4312 watch Dragon Ball Z Abridged
What if kami raised piccolo
Nameless Namekian raising himself? Hopefully not like Mr. Perfect Cell and Cell Jrs. 😂😂😂
Didn’t piccolo jr have some of king piccolo’s memories
@@bobjoe4847 Yes and he certainly would rather live alone and train as hard as he can to get payback on Goku for his father.
And after that, world domination of Earth.
Thankfully Mr. Piccolo became a better person after he became a second dad to Gohan.
@David Ortiz Too busy judging countless souls in the Otherworld for Heaven, Hell, Purgatory and Reincarnation.
What if piccolo raised goku
What if Piccolo had a son?
......DBZ Piccolo I mean.
Surprised this isn't filled with replies just saying "Gohan" yet, lol.
Deathbrewer lol
@@DeathBringer769 I meant a biological son.
Although to answer that question, they'd probably be practically brothers.
One word Gohan
TheRetarded Potato I mean they’re way to close in age to be father and son
I LOVE this concept. It doesnt change Frieza's core character but really develops him more. SO COOL.
Masakox then: Frieza will never be good!
Masakox now: Revelation F
Not good, but good leaning neutral
My profile picture is my reaction to that thumbnail...
Clever way to get some views! 👍
he doesn't have any videos
@@thedumbwaffleman6204 yeah but you had to go and view it before you knew that :p lol
because you said that's a way to get some views. technically 35% of the comments are a "clever way to get views"
Mines is too
If things played out this way, I'd personally want Vegeta to develop. Mecha Freeza vs Vegeta leading to evolution seems fitting. Goku didn't have much connection to his Saiyan roots, but Vegeta on the other hand can't stop going on about Saiyans. I would also like to see Piccolo shine a bit too, maybe even as a good match for King Cold? It wouldn't hurt to have New Ginyu Force equivalent team to face off against the humans and Gohan. Okay, I'm babbling. The thing is... it doesn't always have to be Goku this, Goku that. Let others develop a bit because Goku hardly gets any development as a character from his experiences.
What if Future Gohan went back in time instead of Trunks?
He did this already.
@@tron9683 do it again
@@tron9683 He did, "What if Future Gohan survived?" In that one, no one ever went back in time.
I'm suggesting that during the fight were Gohan loses his arm, Trunks loses his legs. Now that Trunks can't be a fighter, Gohan is forced to wait until the Time machine is ready, because there's no one left to replace him if he dies to the Future Androids.
Well everything would be the same but only with Gohan instead of Trunks
@@cond.oriano3264 Not nessecarily. A couple of things I've thought of are: 1.) F-Gohan wouldn't have to conceal his identity, because present Gohan is already born.
2.) F-Gohan was much stronger than F-Trunks before they trained in the Hyperbolic Timechamber. So, after leaving the chamber, he could be stronger than Vegeta, or even Goku.
3.) F-Gohan might kill Android 18 and or Semi-Perfect Cell on sight (after leaving the time chamber), since he's lived so long trying to rid his world of them.
4.) Assuming the Cell Games end the same way, F-Gohan might encourage present Gohan to maintain his fighting spirit/skills during the years of peace.
5.) During the Goku Black arc, F-Gohan could play a far more active role since he would be stronger than Trunks.
6.) If Present Gohan maintained his skills over the years, we could have him help during the Goku Black arc. (Maybe even a F-Gohan + P-Gohan fusion help Vegito Blue fight Merged Zamasu!)
What if king cold had changed forms against future trunks
He couldn't, because he didn't HAVE different forms!
@Zach Ruggiero He has many forms in the manga, you prob just watch the show and not read the manga. Edit: No hate to anyone who does.
Earth would've been obliterated
Zach Ruggiero YES! That’s the answer because King Cold, Chilled and Frieza lack the genes to go to their next forms. Luckily, all Frost Mutants can turn Golden if they train. Assuming King Cold can transform is like assuming Vegeta can turn SSJ2 in his fight against 18. How is it that no one else know this? Ok yeah it’s a theory but it makes sense if you think about it.
Zach Ruggiero frieza race’s create suppressed forms to keep their power in control. Frieza’s final form is his birth form. Same for Frost, Cooler and King Cold. The other forms (frieza and frost’s first, second and third forms and king colds second form) are not their initial forms meaning that cold dies have at least 2 other transformations after his current state. Cold’s second form was said to be comparable to frieza in his birth/final form which means that colds final form is immensely more powerful than frieza’s and by extension, a super Saiyan
So Frieza finds Goku on Yardrat, Goku starts to lose badly and instant transmissions back to Earth. Frieza will be there in so-and-so many days-months-etc so the Z-Fighters start abusing the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to catch up. Which leads to the most amazing battle ever...right after everyone deals with these two androids that just showed up.
GREAT WHAT IFF PLEASE CONTINUE THE BARDOCK AND GINE WHAT IFS PLEASEEE YOUR WHAT IFS ARE THE BEST!
What if Vegeta went Super Saiyan 2 when Cell Killed Trunks?
I mean, Gohan went super saiyan 2 when he saw this robot dude who wasn't really a friend, more of an acquaintance to him. So, seeing your own son die in front of you (Even if Vegeta conceals it, he's proud of Trunks and loves him. The fact he lost his cool means he actually cared for him), should have a similar if not more impactful effect on him.
I know it might be a 'minor' thing and it could result in an anti-climatic scene in which Vegeta takes away Gohan's moment, but I'm positive if that had happened, the events in the Buu saga would've been different. Hell, maybe even Vegeta would've actually been even with Goku, because since all he does is training, it's not too far fetched to think he would've discovered Super Saiyan 3.
Don't think vegeta would go majin goku and vegeta would probably let buu be awakened and both trun super sayian 3 against him but start fighting themselves leading them both to lose the form before defeating majin buu.
@@devonstidham9234 I think, Vegeta would allow Majin Buu to come to life, just to prove to Goku he achieved a greater power than him (Super Saiyan 3.) But since SSJ3 isn't good enough to take down Majin Buu, and Goku deciding to transform as well, hoping 2 SSJ3 might be enough, Vegeta snaps. Because when he thought he finally was ahead of Goku, when he finally thought he could live up to his saiyan pride, Goku proves him once again, he's not the top dog. This would leave vegeta vulnerable to babidi's mind powers, seeing the chance to have a powerful allie beacuse Babidi knows 2 ssj3 might actually endanger his plans. In the anime he looked terrified when Goku showed him SSJ3, leave alone seeing 2 of them. So he decides the best way to resolve this, is letting vegeta and goku kill each other.
@@RShezmo could be interesting but vegeta sacrifice might actually kill buu in this timeline.
@@devonstidham9234 Perhaps, but consider this. Since Goku and Vegeta would be fighting each other in SSJ3, they both would be too exhausted by the end of the fight. And because Goku fought vegeta as SSJ3, he would be out of time to teach trunks and goten the fusion technique.
@@RShezmo that's true would vegeta have a chance to escape and use the time chamber or train the boys in it? Goku and gohan on supreme kais world ?
Frezia shouldnt be able to get as strong as he did in super. Rember this isn't his real body. His robitic body parts are holding him back because robotic parts dont have as much potential as an real body part.
*coughs*
Androids 17 & 18.
Evans Appiah this isn't starwars, fam.
Some BlackGuy That’s not how it works in Star Wars tho. And it makes sense here.
@@theeshyguy not really, as we've seen technology raise to the level of our main heroes before this and even afterward. Star wars, tech weakens your connection to the Force, so that's not great as a Jedi (though you do get physical stat increases without having to amp your body with the Force), but that sort of thing has never been established in Dragonball to be something that matters or that their bodies are superior or anything and we even have fully cybernetic beings in the form of 16 or cyborgs in the form of 17&18 that quite literally would have torn our protagonists in half if they hadn't gotten a magical year of training.
And that was likely even before Trunks's messing with the time stream possibly being responsible for the androids being leagues more powerful. In short there is no reason to believe that a scientist on Earth working in a secret lab would have better technology than a galaxy spanning military empire. Or that said technology would be "holding him back" when it was designed with him in mind and by scientist that understand his physiology.
@@timoylumontad3920 The Androids are not made of robotic parts. They are mostly biological. And even then their power levels did not improve that much between their introduction and Super, while the organic guys almost quadrupled their power levels.
Kinda like Genos from One Punch Man really.
This is almost like listening to an audio book, and I love it! I really enjoyed how you got your ideas through in this video. I'm usually not that big of a fan of what if videos, but this one was a lot of fun!
What if Goku Failed to get his body and Vegeta ends up in Goku's body after Ginyu's body switch?
Goku would try to use and learn how to do the body change technique and switch back,or just use the dragon balls
What if Fused Zamasu went full corrupted
Jelly zamasu jk
@@owenkorando9595 Zamasu was always jelly
@@emdub9679*jelly confirmed*
He did....
I'm positive that's how we got
The whole universal/dimensional zamasu Came from and the whole zeno thing would have still happened
I would go with Frieza finding Goku but not immediately, with Frieza's scouts coming back short of intel after a long search across the universe, he decides to finally visit (not destroy) Earth to see if Goku is there, only to stumble upon it during the later side of the android saga/early cell saga.
That would be awesome. And discovering another mortal (cell) stronger than him would anger him. But saga will be interesting
Holy mackerel. I like this idea!
Well if this What If ends up being a multiparter, the Cell Saga will sure be interesting. But at the same time, this feels like a very contained story only concerning Goku and Frieza so whatever happens, happens. I'm only surprised that you didn't use Frieza's mechanical enhancements as a reason why he can't go Golden at this time. Seemed like an easy out just saying the enhancements could only handle so much change at once.
Definitely want a Part 2 of this one! This is really interesting.
2:09 That line aged like fine wine
I feel like This is another what if where Freeza kills the heroes and there is no one to stop him.
Depends on when events happen I could see frieza just sittting and waiting imagine if his spies hear about the androids and the heart virus.
5th form would not be the final form, as stated by the maker of Dragon Ball. Freeza's 4th form is actually his True form. As the other forms were to suppress his massive power level, so in actuality. The number is reversed, 4th being the True form and the 1st being the 4th form. Cooler's supposedly 5th form is nothing but a Enhancement form, like a Super Saiyan transforming from Base form to Super Saiyan. The 5th form would be comparable to Kaioken, as it enhances Cooler's powers. Peace.
Im pretty sure that was a fan manga
@@kyros2714 Feels like it. Peace.
@@StarGlazedMuffins Peace? Peace.
StarGlazedMuffins peace peace? PPEEAACCEEE!
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I say Freiza Finds Goku.....BUT! the time in which he decides to Find Goku is Different. Remember...in the Anime, Freiza After getting patched up decides to Land on Earth, only to be snuffed out by trunks!. WHat if, Freizas Arival was about 3 YEars AFTER instead of right after? Freiza Could Catch the Battle with the Androids, and in a moment of confusion and stubbornness, Sees Goku suffering from a Virus (Which of course an Antidote/Cure was provided by trunks earlyier) and basicly pulls a Vegeta and says.... OH...NO, I dident "Train" come this far, and not get the rematch I so Wanted due to a technicality....and more/less Assists in the Battle aginst Cell, WHich Because Freiza Did NOT go to earth when he did, Cell would not Have Freizas Cells,....but might still yet pose a challenge due to the Sayin cells?
If future trunks is the same then future cell would have the dna since future goku killed him and cold on earth.Time travel is fun.
TheVideoPsychic switch the e and the i and you’ll have his name spelt correctly
@@joeramsay6269 people are Still commenting? Sorry, I work nights and I'm not too concerned with spelling errors on social media.
That was actually my next question, how long did Frieza's training take? Goku achieved a form thought to be a legend by training his entire life, nearly dying, training at 100x the gravity he was used to being in WITH weighted clothes, having his body beaten shirtless, Zenkai boosting and then watching his best friend die. How long would it take a genius like Frieza to train to reach a level that it looks like only Cooler reached by just being Cooler
@@kyuubikid7971 your right, Frieza had trained for 4 months to reach a golden form after being revived. It's not entirely clear weather or not Hell/HFIL, allowed villians to Train, furthermore somehow Frieza went from hanging out with Cell and the like to I guess the same treatment as Dabura. Hmm...idk, I suppose we could assume in this What if, he either procrastinated or did Empire things for 3 years.
I think golden Frieza is a result of spiritual (i.e.ki) training along with physical training while the 5th form is a result of pure physical training by itself.
The idea of Frieza and Goku just passing by each other through space, like on complete accident, and doing that shot where both of them look surprised at each other before hastily pressing random buttons in order to stop sends me into a giggle fit.
That thumbnail is something of nightmares
Thumbnail reminds me of Cold’s true form created by TheDevilsCorps
I still prefer DBM’s 5th form Frieza
Still looks badass.
speaking of DBM, the many forms of King Cold are looking nasty.
Nasty in a good or bad way? @@MrGRmask
@@JMandJJ7797 Yes.
It's my headcanon 5th form for Frieza. Whenever he transforms in fanfiction, it's the version I always see in my head.
I love that the captions say “Martha COEX here”
Freeza: *using the space phone* "That prick better pick up."
Cooler: *click* "Freeza? How's it going? I thought you were still recovering from that fiasco on Namek. I'd say you ran with your tail between your legs, but that'd be ironic."
Freeza: "Ha ha, very funny. Now listen up, as much as it loathes me to say it, *sigh* I need your help."
Cooler: "Freeza, we hate each other's guts. Why should I help you?"
Freeza: "The Super Saiyan's real. One beat me on Namek. You can check my ship's black box if you want, but if we don't take care of it, the empire could fall."
Cooler: *Silent for a few seconds* "Say I believe you. What do you want me to do?"
Freeza: "Teach me how to get the 5th form."
*Cue training montage!*
Ooohhhhhh so thats why you don't have any likes, cause the comment was a week ago, I didn't see that at first and I was wondering why such a good comment didn't have any likes, if you commented this when this video first came out you would've had a helluva bigger number of likes
I would like to know what would happen if Tien, Yamcha, Piccolo, and Chiaotzu all learned the Kaio Ken from King Kai. I also would like to know what would happen if Tien used the Mafuba on Cell and if Krillin was more accurate with his Kienzan (Destructo Disk ).
Most importantly, though, I would like to know how Dr. Gero managed to make Android 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18 so much more powerful than a Super Saiyan without knowing what a Super Saiyan was, while making Android 19 and himself so much weaker by comparison. That doesn't seem to make much sense to me. If he already has the means to consistently create machines on that scale of power, why would he neglect to use such technology on himself?
Freiza finds Goku first out of pure hate for him years kater while Goku is busy with something else. Ah man why did you have to show up now. My friends and I are busy with...
Hrm... I don't recall... did the other androids have the energy-absorbing hands? I know that 19 and Gero did, but I know for a fact 17 and 18 didn't...
Perhaps the reason that he had such weaker designs for the "latest" androids was because this new feature, quite similar to Cell's form of powering up by absorbing people, would allow for a greater potential in power, as opposed to the slower, human-like ability to power up that the others had? Hrm... or maybe, due to implementing the absorption device meant that he had to remove something else (only so much room in a human body, after all), which inadvertently caused the power drop?
Also, we don't know what any of the androids were like before they were converted. It's possible that 19 (being fully machine) and 20 (a scientist) were the only ones who weren't actually warriors of some sort, already, and therefore, didn't have much of a power level to enhance...
Also, 13,14 and 15 are all from an alternate timeline (possibly Cell's original timeline, but it's unconfirmed), as Gero destroyed them all in the main timeline, so there's no telling how long ago they were created, how long they've been active/training, or any of that... which could explain their massive power difference, as opposed to 17 and 18s, presumably, more negligible ones (when Gero went to them, he was already weakened/cornered, so the two on one was easy pickings).
I WOULD point out that Gero managed to turn his own body into an android, and that might be the reason, but 19 was similarly weak, with the only main difference being the Yakon-like ability to absorb energy.
I never got why any of the androids would even be comparable, let alone stronger than a super saiyan to begin with. If Gero could make Androids that strong, he could have easily made Androids strong enough to kil Goku before all the power creep happened.
Not even questioning why no inteligent race on any other planet would have succesfully made Androids of any significant power level in an attempt to save themselves from Freeza. The base power level of a human is really low and certain other races have far more advanced tech such as space travel; Thus if humans can make androids of that level, certain alian races can probably do so too.
@@Dragonoid269 I mean, it seems that humans, in general, are pretty unique. Ki sensing is a rare ability, it seems, universally (though some races, such as the Yardrats and the Namekians knew it, as well) and, apparently, human cuisine does not exist anywhere else in either Universe 6 and 7, other than Earth.
Combined with people like Bulma (I mean, yeah, she's a genius, but bare with me) who, at the age of 5, had to repair a spaceship for Jaco (and would later go on to remark that the androids' schematics were incredibly advanced), and that Pilaf has an even greater mind for science than even her (according to Super, where he corrected her coding), so we know Bulma isn't even the smartest being on Earth, at all.
It quickly becomes clear that Humans are actually incredibly advanced, though tend to not have as much desire to move from planet to planet. This may be due to the fact that there is, likely, little life in their region of the Universe, similar to how our Earth is the only habitable planet in our solar system.
Although, past that, it's hard to say, for certain...
Yamcha will still die early
I think something thag would be INSANELY interesting is if he doesn't show up until the bui arc, this sounds too far fetched but keep in mind that if he truly wanted to savor it he would train enough to the point where goku wouldn't be able to do anything about freeza destroying earth. This leads to again not golden freeza but more of a perfected 5th form kinda like how goku and gohan made the base ssj form use basically no energy, now the cell saga/android saga plays out the same way but every now and then theres freeza force spies keeping eyes on the z-fighters now i say he wouldn't go and attack when goku gets a heart virus because theres cell and stronger z-fighters who may get in his way but once he sees gohan go ssj2 this gives him flash backs and infuriates him this is where the perfected 5th form comes in but he still feels like hes not strong enough but he notices someone who may be very useful..... babidi, this is because he finds him recruiting warriors to help awaken majin buu and in return they gain power, freeza is intrigued by the power boost only because deep down inside he knows he needs it, but instead of babidi recuiting him he inlist babidi as one of his top henchmen along with pui pui, dabura, etc. As they finish recruiting warriors they head to earth but freeza tells babidi to go on with his plan but to not say a word about the fact that he works for him. Right before majin buu is awakened freeza demands babidi to give him a power boost this happens after vegeta becomes a majin to ensure that he doesn't get in the way of their plan. But again right before majin buu is awakened freeza becomes majin and this catches goku off guard immediately. This power feels extremely familiar to him but he stugles to figure out who's it is but as soon as he figures it out, BAM vegeta knocks him out
TO BE CONTINUED(depending on how many likes the comment grys or if masako uses the idea)
I like your headcannon, the only problem that I have with it is that, according to Resurrection of 'F,' Frieza stated that there were 2 peope in the universe that his father told him never to challenge: Majin Buu and Beerus the Destroyer. Sooooo, I don't think that he would be so apropos to the idea of joining forces with Babidi and unleashing Buu
Cell kind of needs Frieza’s cells, without them I doubt he would even be a villain
@@sprtsfanatic1 I instantly thought of that reference too !
Frieza would beat up Goku then do the same and leave him mangled and defeated, while Frieza laughs. Then Frieza would constantly up his training to make sure that Goku will not catch up to him.
What if the androids met Eighter?
They would make friends with him like they did with 16.
Although they would be worried since he is far weaker than them.
Unless they find a way to upgrade him with enough power to not be a liability.
Timoy Lumontad while I guess it doesn’t count, there is a what if mission in budikai Tenkaichi( I probably spelled that wrong) where Android 16 went back in time to kill Goku and Eighter was able to go toe to toe with 16 and perhaps even surpassed him in to protect Goku.
@@shard7549 I would guess Bulma had managed to upgrade Eighter enough to go toe to toe with 16 in defense of young Goku.
Because realistically, 16 could have easily destroyed Eighter and killed young Goku shortly after that immediately.
Shard 754 That was really cool but it was also just Budokai Tenkaichi lol
@@timoylumontad3920 yeah I don't think Eighter would befriend those who would try to kill Goku.
aaand shortly after, future trunks, heart virus, androids, SSJ 1.5, CELL. would be interesting to see how Frieza would interact in that mess.
Masako: “Freeza will never turn good”
Also Masako: **creates a series about Freeza turning good, and then makes it one of his biggest series, possibly soon to be on par with R&R**
If you're being consistent, Cooler has shown that 5th Form Frieza *should* still be weaker than SSJ Goku, given that Cooler's behaviour implies he's at least almost as strong as his brother, and *his* 5th form was still beaten by Goku as well.
Technically, Goku probably got a zenkai boost from nearly dying
Plus, 4th form cooler was only at 50% final form frieza in terms of power. With his final form being about as strong as super saiyan future trunks at that point. The main reason goku had such a hard time against frieza was due to his body being weak from using kkx20 and not healing. Goku was fighting on fumes the entire time.
@@omegashinobi fair, except Frieza doesn't just have a new form. He has a new form, is a cyborg, and has been training with that new form as well.
Your a genius
Yo Movies Goku scales different to Anime/Manga Goku.
To me, Frieza is too far gone. He wouldn't, in character, ever consider changing his ways because of his iron stubbornness. It's just his presentation of being a selfish, ruthless dictator that sells this. Sure, Goku defeating him will provide a reality check for Frieza that there are warriors with potential rivaling his among the cosmos. Other than that, what else? He will still be compelled to strike down his vendetta for glory's sake, not be buddy-buddy with them all of a sudden.
What if cooler was with frieza on namek
That means he would bring the coolers armored squad and you could argue that they are all stronger than ginyu so frieza and cooler get there way way before goku even lands on namek
Rip goku and friends. Lol
A time patroller will come
@@iwannabespecial9873 hehe your joking right
thegoodnoob yes I am
Friezas never gonna turn good…
RevalationF: I’m bout to start this mans whole career
Sure thing, Droidy boy. 😏
Honestly, now i just want a story where Freeza limps back to his ship, finds Golue trying to launch it, and is just like... "It's the green button on the left." And then they have to deal with each other while one is on deaths door but desperstely wants to the other dead, and the other just wants to get home and is "kind" enough(he cant fight him again if he dies), to stop the first guy from dying.
Kind of a two-men-lost-at-sea situation where they need each other to survive.
Love this video! Also I low key wanted you to say Frieza turns good lol.
I agree that Frieza wouldn't go for gold just yet (pun intended) but I don't think he would start training until later. Him training was in response to hearing that Goku beat Majin Buu. I would say that going Fifth Form would be something he already knows how to do but never bothered achieving/using it at that point because why would he.
How I see it playing out is like this. Much like in the Trunks saga. Frieza gets his mechanical parts and heads to earth to get his revenge.The difference being that during the fight with Trunks. Instead of using his Supernova on Trunks when he sees him go Super Saiyan. Frieza turns into his Fifth Form. He's able to completely match Trunks and gains the upper hand but in standard Frieza fashion. He didn't try out the form before hand. The size and power increase puts a lot of stress on his new limbs and they ultimately fail before he could kill Trunks.
Frieza at this point is a sitting duck and when Trunks is about to finish him off with his sword. Goku arrives. Goku blocks the sword with his finger and lets Frieza go. Frieza leaves the planet in shame. Being spared a second time by Goku. Over the next few years. He pushes his scientists to find a way to bring his legs back. Each failure is met with the head scientist being killed. Now two things could happen. Like in Resurrection F. A new medical machine that can regenerate his limbs is finally made or with the constant yelling that King Cold would be giving Frieza. He would eventually snap and kill King Cold and take his legs for himself.
Either way, by that time, Frieza hears that Goku has defeated Majin Buu and begins to train. Not satisfied with just obtaining his Golden Form. He continues to train until he can use the Golden Form while in his Fifth Form.
2:11 Lawrence! calm down
Ikr
He did not shout UNSUBSCRIBE!!! in his running gag routine. And that's worrying. 😨😨😨
Wait, wouldn't Frieza grab his severed lower body before he would leave an exploding namek? I think his lower body was next to him when Goku spared him. It could probably be reattached to him with that alien tech. I mean I would've done that if I were Frieza, because that would be my lower body and would want that back attached to me.
he could've picked a least 1.
Remember too is when frieza fired his final blast being split in half theres a chance it got evaporated in the process of goku blasting him or he was just too weak and couldn't carry it with his one arm and one eye
Good point...
King cold when he gets a look at the frieza after the main series namak “MY BABY BOY”
Problem with "5th form", unlike golden form, Frieza and Coolers forms are Backwards, they Revert to get stronger, and their final forms were their true form, so first form will instead become second, Second to third,and so on,
How about some kind of "What if ____ Never Turned Good?" I'm not entirely sure which character would be best for this, but it could be an interesting subversion on what you've done before.
OniMedicham Piccolo
Tien? Or what if bulma was evil?
VEGETA
@@devonstidham9234 We know what happens if Tien doesn't have a change of heart. Hit.
That thumbnail
Goku is too laxed to even bother looking for frieza. Although he yearns for battle, other then for sport like with tournaments or sparing, goku never really actually seeks out a fight. He always is either fighting for fun or letting fights come to him. And even then, he has shown, especially in the Z saga, he doesn't want the need to fight evil. He only hopes for everyone to be good and for fighting to be a means of entertainment, of again, sport. At his dumbest, he hopes frieza to turn good. At his smartest, he just continues his training like he did in the original saga. You forget, even in your timeline of events, goku comes out learning how strong his enemies can get and that drives him to push himself like it always has. He's not gonna waste his time to seek out a fight. He's gonna wait till last minute like he always does as to give both himself and his enemies as much time as possible for them to both get stronger.
Frieza on the other hand, he'd be impatient. He'd be angry at his lost, but at the same time, rather excited to see what this new form can do to such a lowly monkey. The taste of revenge is such a sweet taste (or rather, salty, seeing his taste in hell) in our lords mouth. Like with golden frieza, he is confident in his ability and will chase down goku almost immidately after reaching his new form just because that's who he is.
However, this begs the question if form 5 Frieza is to play out similarly to how golden frieza turned out, how does effect our favorite evil emperor in the super arc when he's brought back? Just what he learn from what ultimately would be another frieza lost? What choiced would have been altered in super seeing as how he wouldn't want to repeat his mistakes.
Also, why are you spelling Frieza wrong in the title and spelling it 2 different ways in the description?
I'm confused as to what exactly he means by "finding". Does he mean the point in the timeline when they first meet on Namek?
Perfect Cell 999 no he meens find Goku and distroy him, ore where hin out mok him, and after that, let him live.
Freeza can be either spelled as Frieza, Freeza or Furiza. I'd rather stick with Freeza
Two words
"Cell games"
I meant it as actively seeking out and searching for the other to fight them. Sorta like tracking down and hunting a wild animal for sport. Except instead of wild animals, it's rivals and wild monkeys. That's more of a freeza or frieza thing then a goku thing.
i'll be waiting for part 2 of this What If, you are making this cenario interesting.
King Cold when he sees Frieza: MY PRETTY LITTLE PRINCESS!!!!!
Please take a moment to read and think about what I'm about to type out.
I believe Goku should find Frieza.
Adding in a little flare to the plot. We could assume Vegeta will rush the reunion. Eventually he will begin his voyage into space during his pilgrimage of becoming a ss.
Think about it from Frieza's perspective.
When consumed with the idea of Frieza must become stronger to assert his role as an emperor to his people. It leads him to train and foucs his mastary of his 5th form. Various ki blasts and changes to his movesets.
It also would be a nice flare to the story.
During his voyages of exploration through out the cosmos, he stumbles upon Vegeta training.
Frieza certainly believes this would make a great opportunity to try out his new found strength. I'm sure the two of them would comply to such a duel and I leave that to you on how that happens 😆
But the sheer amount of ferosity in this battle would definitely trigger Goku to practice his instant transmission.
Think about it. We saw him do this in the series when Vegeta was training. So it makes perfect sense if Goku appears this way and meets up with Frieza first.
Wonderful design
Cooler did it first. 😂😂😂
I wonder. Had Freeza still had that scouter that was given to him, by Captain Ginyu, and when he copied data of the regenerative ability of the Namekians shown to him, by Nail, could he have used that to regenerate himself?
Frieza finds Goku first maybe through his training he's learned to sense Ki
I am really excited to see where this little series goes!
thanks to insomnia, I'm here
superdarkksparda1337 neat
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ugh i hate insomnia ☹️hopefully you’ll get some rest 🙌
Stephanie Smith nope, time to vote blue and save my rights.
Wouldn't this 5th form actually be a 2nd form seeing as he was born in final form and the other ones are downgrades?
Where did you hear/see that?
strifenineteen Resurrection F
@@hatefulgaming1800 you mean when Frieza says he was born with this power? Cause I don't remember seeing him as a baby in his final form
@@strifenineteen its in minus and has been mentioned many times that the other forms were suppressions of his true form
But he can canonically unlock Golden Frieza by getting more powerful, so I think he can create more forms (at any place he wants, so he can chose to create a new 2nd form and the others will just slide of one position) to redestribute the amount of total energy better
What if Cooler turned good. Or what if Radiz and Nappa both lived and joined Goku and Vegeta against Freeza.
Waiting on a part 2, remember masakox we are all looking forward to a what if Broly turned good part 4. Gonna have a lot of what ifs to create with this one added onto all of them.
that was an awesome video man i really enjoyed it..helped me forget about my anxiety for 10 minutes..a god damn record
But Masako!! Why no What if Frieza Turned Good! UnSuBsCrIbE!!!
Doesn’t matter,he’ll still try to get his revenge
DoEsN't MatTeR, He'Ll stIlL TrY To Get hiS ReVEnGe.
Krankkid yo tf?
Thanks Captain Obvious. 😂😂😂
Didn't know I needed this
2:19
I wouldn't be too sure of that
i love his character analysis videos the most, especially when he does these funny imitations of a character
What if goku was raised bt the red ribbon army
Commander Orange.
Early morning squad
Ha its afternoon for me
Been following your channel for a while and was wondering if I could get your thoughts on this. I don't know if it was directly mentioned in Super but lets say Hypothetically Universe 7 loses the ToP. Would the Super Dragonballs disappear as well? Because if the creator of the Dragonballs die, whether it were Kami, Guru, Dende, etc. the Dragonballs become inert. So using that rule as my basis, is it safe to assume that the creator of the Super Dragonballs is still alive in some way, shape or form and if Universe 7 were to be erased would the Super Dragonballs be erased as well? I know they weren't when Universe 6 was erased and the Super Dragonballs were spread between those 2 universes so you can make the educated guess that the creator was native to Universe 7. Would love to get your thoughts on this.
Interesting proposition at the very least. Though it may also have been implied that the creator of the super dragon balls may actually be more powerful than the currently known gods.
Another possibility is the super balls are not linked to their creator the same way the normal ones are, this may be due to the fact that the normal ones are actually fragments of the super balls and perhaps the reason the dragon balls become stones upon their "creators" death is that these individuals don't actually create them but their life force sustains them and perhaps in return the balls magic then extends the lives of their creators, not making them truly immortal but undying due to age or disease.
It's never stated or even implied that Zarama exists anywhere in the mortal realm, or if he's still alive at all. For all we know, he could be the Super Dragon Ball Dragon himself living in his own plane of existence. The SDBs themselves can be destroyed, though, as proven by Zamasu, so if Zeno willed it, he could probably outright destroy them if they happen to be in an erased universe at the time. Therefore, it's impossible to determine that even if they did disappear with the universe's erasure.
Hehehe... When you said "beside himself", my mind produced the vision of Frieza's top part floating next to his legs.
The thumnaile looks awsome 🔥🔥
What if freeza went into the Hyperbolic time chamber!?!
Freiza training for 1 year=stronger than jiren
Now manga official, sort of lol
I am curious if Frieza would regain his lost limbs with his 5th form. After all I kind of remember him regrowing his tail when he went into his final form despite having it hacked off in a previous one. Though it might of just been lazy animators forgetting it was gone.
The portion of the tail that Frieza lost in his second form was actually part of the armor he grows to supress his power, his real tail was never cut by Krillin.
You should do a what if the ginyu force turned good and joined the Z Fighters
This needs to somehow end up with the Great Saiyaman leading them.
They would absolutely work together with Great Saiyaman
@@HaveYouTriedGuillotines That would be awesome. Then in DB Super we could get a showdown between Gohan's Ginyu Force and the Pride Troopers
That would actually make me watch DB Super.
@@CrispyB8con That'd be just....AMAZIIINGGGGGGG OMG
I think both Goku and Vegeta would go find freeza. I'm sure that they'd both have felt Freezas power when he transformed and killed all of his people, since goku was probably still on yardrat and Vegeta was busy crying on the moon about not being super sayian. Maybe that even could be a catalyst for him to obtain it earlier.
Your what ifs never disappoint. Good work
The help is expendable!
I still think Goku, Trunks or a teamup of both could beat Frieza
But what about form 5 king cold he just appeared in form 2 and died in form 2 without powering up
What if Cooler was canon to the main story?
What if Goku ended up stopping his training, but the others continued?
What if Turles turned good?
What if Kid Buu / Super Buu become an ally?
What if Goku stayed dead in the Majin Saga?
What if the Ginyu Force, the entire team, survived?
What if Gohan was the first super saiyan?
What if Yamcha had kept training? ( I like Yamcha. )
Knowing Freeza, he will most likely want to coax Goku into finding him first. Perhaps hurting his friends or taking them hostage. He did toy them around for a bit in Resurrection F.
I believe goku would probably find freeza first, or at least be aware of him, because of energy sensing, the same reason that he was able to help on earth with teleportation, so if goku knew freeza was alive he could search for freeza's energy, or even look with king kai's help, and easily find where freeza was...