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Podcast recommendation: The Trojan Horse Affair is an incredible true story told in a short series, I think it’s 12 or so episodes. It’s about how a low performing school district in a predominantly Muslim community did a 180 in record time by embracing the culture… only to be sabotaged in a weird series of events. It happened in the UK and the reporting on the story has been minimal, for reasons that are explored throughout the episodes which are incredibly suspicious. I know a story about a school might not sound too interesting, but it is so engrossing and very informative- plus I think it’s an important story that more should know about, but I couldn’t help myself from binging the whole thing in a day or two. It’s told so well!! Behind the Bastards is great too!
"he was not a kid, he was 17". What the actual hell does that mean, it's not ok to murder adults either. If he was 18, 21, 42, it would have been just as atrocious tf
EXACTLY this sentiment. Being mad that Trayvon was humanized by sharing pictures of him when he was younger was also a level of depravity I don’t have the patience for.
Not just that, she said “he wasn’t a CHILD, the KID was 17” like ok so you recognize he was a kid then? But he apparently had to be a child for murder to be unjustified??
especially when the Black teen doesn't even get to be seen, as "just a kid," when he murdered no one. He was murdered. Like. Only Racist or conspiracy logic can make sense of that. Like. That so messed up.
Like. One Kid commited basically terrorism "he's just a kid." Treyvon wasnt even seen as a kid when he WAS murdered. That's bullshit. Like. Even at my most racist and fucked up, that's wrong. That's clearly wrong!
her using the college papers thing as a defense is just so gross because not only did she yeah, say she faked liberal views for grades, but whats worse is thats admission she RESEARCHED AND WROTE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLES STRUGGLES, then CONTINUED HER R@CISM!. ''she didnt knowww any better'' SHE LITERALLY EDUCATED HERSELF TO KNOW BETTER. she was met with it face first and you know what she did? turned the other way.
@@scrimblo5845she herself in her ”apology” videos confessed that she didn’t really change her views until after college, once she had been living in LA for a while. Do with that what you will. But considering her like of maga post with Trump recently & her sitting silently staring ahead, pouting like a child in a bad mood while her co host tried to express support for Palestinians being killed in Gaza recently as well. Extremely zionist social media posts from friends, friends to both of them. And her ”I lthink Kid Rock is hot” that she deleted from her bio. Zero ppl of color as guests on the pod. I’d say her ”not racist anymore” is looking alot like: I make alot of money now in LA as an influencer and podcaster, so I know how to hide what I am to keep that lifestyle. Ppl that has been like that for so long, do they just suddenly become not a racist. Really?
Excellent framing here. If high school kids have a "racist phase" that Black students have to deal with and internalize we're still prioritizing them over the kids who are victims of that trauma. They were making overt lynching "jokes" in group settings to this young woman and everyone treated it like it was normal. That made my blood run cold.
I may say and done bad shit but WHAT?! NO. DUDE. WTF. I feel guilty for my shit and I won't pretend I didn't do or say bad shit, but like. DUDE. NOOOO.
It honestly made me feel sick. Whenever I think of kids being racist I always think it’s like a joke to be “edgy” (like the baptism one) or it being purely out of ignorance and thinking that because some white people have hard lives that must mean racism isn’t real. That poor girl was TERRORIZED. People in her school thought it was funny that she feared for her physical safety…how do you just “grow out of” behaving like a monster?
The most annoying thing about these situations is there's always an unsolicited army of ppl defending the person harder than they're defending themself. Why do ppl feel the need to defend racists and accept apologies that weren't for them ?
because they recoginze that they are the same, and then give the emptahy that they would have wanted if it was them on the chopping block // coming from a white women
Because some white ppl love making everything about themselves and also I think they see themselves in her or people like her. Maybe guilt too? As someone else stated above me.
So that they can use those defenses upon themselves when they exhibit the same behavior is another factor. "Look everybody, she did nothing wrong, so I did nothing wrong!!!"
@@kahlilbtthey shouldn’t but sadly they do. Black children are seen as innocent children for far shorter periods than their white counterparts. Their childhood ends at puberty at which point they are either seen as hyper sexual (black girls) or as violent thugs (black boys). The adultification of black children has to end
@@kahlilbtpreach! adultification of children, especially black children is soooo disgusting. same goes for teenage girls that are more curvy and developed. still children.
so true about being expected to give grace to white women like Brooke. Like people saying she deserves a second chance, meanwhile minority groups often don't even get a first chance from people bc they have racist prejudices against them, the same as Brooke has shown.
@@feltfrog it's important to question how white women use their womanhood to evade responsibility from their mistakes. White women very often position themselves as victims in order to not be accountable for their violent and racist behaviour. White women will use their tears when they are called out for messed up behaviour in order to evade responsibility and position themselves as victims. Why would it be necessary to talk about white people in general when we are discussing the behaviour of a white woman?
@@feltfrog Bc White woman are often not held to the same standard of accountability and frequently their tears often galvanise white supremacist violence, seen as pitiable maidens in contrast to none white woman. Seen as the 'gentle' ideal to protect.
I think the reason her tweets are so jarring is because they're sadistic. She wasn't just ignoring her family's racism, she enjoyed being racist as well. That's not simply ignorance. It's also a bit disturbing that she admitted that after college she still felt the same way, but I mean at least she was honest. I always want to believe people change, but we should never forget that just because someone has changed it doesn't undo the harm they caused.
In her apology video while talking about unlearning racism she said she started realising stuff when she was in college and even wrote her thesis on racial disparity. It seems cool to see her say that on the apology but when that tweet comes up it's just too damning. She was tweeting racist stuff while in college. How being liberal while writing essays have got her more marks. This is a whole other level of sinister racism. People who know the facts and still choose to hate because hating is what comes most natural to racists like that. She's a deep seated racist not like these ppl who were kids and tweeted the n word. She says she thought it was cool to mirror what her grandparents were saying so now that she's in LA it's cool to have the same view as everyone else there. How do we know what's real lol
@@baby_ghoul i hadn’t seen anyone else frame it like this - the sadistic part. it’s interesting to think about. in some ways that is part of the whole cancelled podcast branding. i really empathized with brooke because i do believe she was abused by her ex, but i hope she uses that experience to only intensify her efforts to support reparations and use her platform for good instead of just good PR for a few weeks
Absolutely. And it's always suspicious to me that they are "changed" now that they have a public platform and are getting called out. It's just so exhausting.
This. I grew up in a very white conservative small southern town around a lot of racists, and I am definitely guilty of covert racism like micro-aggressions/fetishization... but even as a young woman, I KNEW overt racism was fucked up and never acted like Brooke by *gleefully* and *publicly* participating in dehumanization by bragging about being racist or using slurs like it was a fun and edgy thing to do. 🙄
The fact that Brooke gets to excuse her racism by saying she was young and knows better now, where Trayvon Martin was the same age and has been adultified so often as if being almost 18 could ever even remotely excuse or explain his murder-this shows so brutally how Black youth are adultified. Citing the fact that he was 17 and almost an adult! or whatever is one of the most thinly veiled BULLSHIT excuses I’ve ever seen for a person being MURDERED. I’ll never forgive the country I live in for allowing such a blatant and DISGUSTING act to slide. This video is so well-ordered and articulate. So grateful you have been on the internet as a creator for as long as you have, Kat Blaque, and that you’re still creating commentaries like this.
Alexis’ testimony is so harrowing, her and her sister were terrorized by her school! None of those kids who terrorized them should ever be allowed to plead ignorance
Her experiences were atrocious but I also hope she knows how incredibly brave and stunning she is. (Honestly, I was thinking to myself "THIS is what the mouse company should've have done for casting their Black princess. Don't change a thing, tell the story and let the 'happy ending' be her the moment we're sharing, empathizing, and *hopefully* some are learning from.") Amazing person. May she have the best life.
As a Muslim that's the same age as Brooke, I had to deal with anti-Muslim bigotry from a majority white school after 9/11. This is back when I didn't even wear a hijab on my head, so they chose to express bias based on my name and skin color. It's not enough for these white teenagers to be 'not racist'. Being 'not racist' doesn't absolve you of the actual harmful shitty behaviors you continued, such as starting rumors, or being unkind, or espousing views that carried actual weight towards other human beings. Being 'anti-racist' is the only way to exist now, no questions or if and buts. I'm completely sideways after learning that she pretended to be liberal in college to get a better grade while writing essays, and she literally was educated on the subject of brutality towards Black folks, only to look the other way. That means she CHOSE to be this way of her own accord, and she decided her views were more precious to her than learning or changing her mind.
She did that because she knew she’d be “cancelled” if she openly supported Israel yet didn’t want to even pretend to support Palestine. She followed the age old advice of “if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all” and hoped she’d skate by
As a white person, I think this is an important message. People are so afraid to be called racist when in reality, so many of us were born into racist families or conditioned to hear racial biases that we become numb to it when BIPOC people don’t have this privilege. I feel like we need to start recognizing that as white people, it’s rare not to be racist to some degree even if we are working on being anti-racist because of the privilege we are born with in a white supremacist society. Of course, nothing is that simple and it’s not just white people who express harmful and racist/prejudiced things but yeah…the more we can recognize this the better.
it's the difference between wanting to avoid racism because you think racism is wrong, and wanting to avoid racism because being seen as racist makes you feel bad. in the latter situation, a person will never accept their culpability, because acknowledging it would be more humiliating than the act itself. they CANNOT stand to be seen as racist, even to apologize for it. in the former situation, one recognizes that their actions have an impact, and prioritizes that over their own ego. they know that you can have every good intention and still say something wrong, so you have to be comfortable with apologizing and changing, because sticking to your guns is more hurtful to others even if it spares your own feelings.
Concur, I know the 'everyone has a racist phase' is a cheap excuse, but the reality is I think the reality is that most places are built on white supremacy and it is ingrained in white people, you aren't born 'better' than racist white people ,you have the same capacity for racism as them and it's something to constantly work on and strive to be better. Without the expectation that you will be 'absolved' or forgiven/that none white people HAVE to feel safe around you after you've worked on yourself
I agree with you. I actually think that most of us, in the Us at least, grow up in social groups that encourage not just racist but sexist, homophobic, queer-phobic, and classist attitudes. I know that when a child in these groups feels uncomfortable they usually don’t speak up because of the social fallacy that friends don’t criticize each other and the desire for belonging. This especially affects the bipoc kids who are in majority white spaces and don’t want to be isolated from longtime friends.
Absolutely. I grew up in racist spaces and even though I knew it was wrong, it took a while to unlearn and I’m still unpacking things I was told as a kid or checking my biases. I can’t say I ever tweeted anything like Brooke or thought these kinds of jokes were funny as I did know better, but I’m still not perfect. Growing up white, you’re often not forced to think critically about stuff and I know I have been racist unintentionally. I’m Jewish (and white) and there is a huge move by some Jews (not all don’t get me wrong) not to acknowledge the racism in our culture because it somehow negates the abuses we’ve suffered…which no it doesn’t. I get really tired of these people, especially when Black Jews are literally yelling at us to do better and other white Jews are like, “We are all Jews of color! Maybe you just had a bad experience!” (Which, no we aren’t.)
Every time I’m like “she’s gonna imply I might be an introspective hot person… she’s gonna do it AAAH SHE’S DOING ITT!!!!” And then mentally and/or physically kick my legs and squeal haha
I will never understand for the life of me after all these years and all these incidents of past tweets coming back to haunt people…why influencers haven’t bothered to scrub their old social media posts. It’s your page, you can control what’s on it. 💀
@@rachael5025 Exactly. I could buy that they’ve changed - we all change over time…I don’t buy that they actually care enough to have remorse unprompted. Her arguing with people in the comments and still being a Trump supporter…she doesn’t actually care.
@@rachael5025i think it’s a mix of this and entitlement and laziness. They assume their fans aren’t bored/invested enough to scrub through years of old tweets to catch them being assholes.
As a young british nigerian woman, I’m slowly realising that there is nothing more I can do to help stop people from being racist. Although it’s never been my duty, the consequences of racism have only ever affected me, whilst my (micro)aggressor gets to walk away satisfied. I bought into the lie that assimilation will offer you some form of protection- a buffer, if you will. I chose to wear leave-outs instead of wigs or braids so people would stop talking about/touching my hair, developed a softer voice and meek personality so people can’t say that I’m “angry all the time”, learned how to be “well spoken”, never brought my country’s food to school/work for lunch in case it “smelled”, always smiled when walking past older white people so they’ll think I’m “one of the good ones”, etc. I get so excited to share my culture with others but, I can’t help but wonder if I do so in part because I want to make people less afraid of me. Not because I am scary, but because the brownness of my skin is a threat to many. I am so exhausted. I don’t feel like smiling anymore.
I hope you can learn that you don't have to reshape yourself or make yourself smaller to make yt people comfortable. They will never be comfortable no matter what you do, they will always shift the goalposts to ensure you keep reshaping yourself for their comfort, and they still won't ever be satisfied. So the thing to do is to make yourself comfortable, and live in your own truth. The ones who appreciate you and your culture will show themselves; the ones who don't aren't worth your time.
I'm really sorry people put you through these experiences. Personally I think exposure is the only thing that can take away this irrational fear people seem to have of cultures that are foreign/unknown to them. I know as a child I would feel this strange fear when seeing women fully veiled in hijabi's, even though I knew back then that there was no logical or justifiable reason to feel this way. That apprehension only fully went away when I went to college, when I started regularly spending time with and making friends with people who have this culture. Also if it could offer you a tiny bit of consolation, I don't think your desire to share your culture has anything to do with wanting to make people less afraid. I was born and raised in the Balkans and my family moved to Belgium while I was still in elementary school, and I will take any chance I can get to share the food, or idioms or stories or practices from my culture with my friends. We all want to share the things we love with the people we love and personally, it makes me feel less alone
I’m so so sorry that you made yourself smaller in order to try and protect yourself from hate, and to “protect” white people from the parts of yourself they would view as “other”. Shame on them and shame on all of us white people who don’t work to make this a safe and equatable world for all people. I hope you can embrace being your authentic self, whatever that looks like for YOU. That’s a radical act of bravery. I’m sorry this word is so sick.
I have those same thoughts and I’ve done those exact things. Especially, the- excitedly introducing other people to my own culture because I know at some level that they’re afraid of it and me due to my Blackness so I act proactively to dispel that.
I recently discussed the strangeness of people suddenly launching headfirst into racist language when say, they're road raging with my (Brown) partner and how disappointing it is when they haven't displayed that mindset anywhere else in life. Dealing with this firsthand with family in the past where I tell them that's not okay gets me ganged up on and yelled at.😕
I am so not the "I'm black and...." person but I discussed this with my husband who happens to be white. My best analogy is what you champion (I appreciate you being a decent person in that regard). If your weird racist uncle tells an off color joke and nobody says anything what does that say about those who are silent? This fits ALL races as well. It's an issue of ignorance. Thank you again
@@lucidasmr6413 Once the cops were called when my family was all having a shouting match and I told them straight up I couldn't deal with the racist shit anymore. It's simply not cute, full stop, and I'll stick up for that opinion to anyone (Maybe shouldn't play along with shouting though 😅). All the best to you both. I want to marry my guy too. 🥰
@@lucidasmr6413 That's why I have nothing but metric tons of respect for my dad for removing himself from his family once he knew how they were, and making sure us kids were no where near his family members who were like that or even that we had/have some until I was much older.
As a white person, it all comes down to this: I was a racist kid, I’m sure I still have internalized racist beliefs to this day. I work on learning about both myself and other people to shake those beliefs that I adopted, willingly or subconsciously. It shouldn’t be hard to admit that most if not all white people grew up racist. Refusing to shake those beliefs, refusing to admit that you are a work in progress unlearning years or decades of crappy politics and opinions and continuing to work on our (my) faults is where I usually draw the line with people I actively refuse to associate with anymore.
My question is, how do you allow yourself to be so closed off and indoctrinated into those "crappy politics and opinions"? I have had immediate family members with some awful views, but even as a child, I maintained empathy. It just seems like a lot of white people who go through "phase" immediately blame their family members for their own actions, and many do it over the internet, which is ironic.
Exactly! He said he was going to follow him on foot and they told him there was no need to do that. They said not to follow him, not to engage 😡 He had no authority to question, harass or bother that boy. He wasn't a police officer, but even if he was, Trayvon was doing nothing wrong or illegal! Trayvon's death still makes me mad, especially because my nephew's name is Tre'von. Such a tragedy smh
The bean dip joke is a perfect example of something that’s funny if it’s said within your own community / family, but not from an outsider with ill intent. Like, I can make fun of my little brother, but no one else can.
@@edvh88yeah. there are a lot of things that people within a community think its pretty funny to say to eachother because its almost always clear that its truly lighthearted with no.. odd undercurrents. like when "acoustic" is used by autistic people to refer to themselves or make a joke that isn't at someones expense, its funny, but its reallyy not very funny when everyone just uses it to say something/someone is stupid, or dumb, or whatever very negative adjective you'd like to conjure up. basically just becoming a stand in for the r word.
And we see conservatives youth TO THIS DAY bragging about how they “had” to pretend they had left leaning views in order to pass, but frame this as “woke” colleges having left wing bias, totally ignoring the fact that maybe THEY could be wrong.
I think Brooke saying she's thankful to the people defending her in her apology is so telling in and of itself. I can't discuss all my feelings in one one comment but it's just something that didn't sit right with me
This is a really tricky one. As much I do believe that people _can_ be forgiven for saying racist/sexist/homophobic/etc things in their youth, this situation does feel very different. It's not like she just said the n-word a few times to be edgy, she was an outright racist. There's a line and she crossed it multiple times. It's very difficult for me to think she is any different now, given the evidence. Personally, I do not accept her apology, I will never accept her apology, and her past will not be forgotten.
It’s never your job to accept her apology, and I think it’s valid to reject it. No matter how much a racist/bigot have “changed their ways”, the damages have been done. No amount of guilt and actions trying to prove that they’re not the same person anymore will be able to undo the trauma that has been put onto their victims.
@@Kalitayyyou may be right. But she refuses to do even that much. Like she asks for an apology but then does the same stuff. I wouldn't know, but probably doesn't help
@@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Whether she did or did not do the same stuff after the apology, it doesn't matter. She had a "racist phase", she was racist. That in itself shows that she's not a good person and she will never be. Maybe she can change and do good things in the future, maybe in the next 20-30 year she would become an ally. But no amount of virtue and contribution will ever undo the damage she had done in the past. Doing good things =/= being a good person.
This was an "apology" from someone who got caught, not from someone who felt genuine remorse for negatively affecting their peers. And her "growth" was only from her growing out of her edgy, racist phase so she never took the time to reflect on anything. I'm general, there's no need to forgive anyone, especially if the scars run deep. But there was no apology here to accept. Just excuses.
@@miriamlevenson9430 the ammount of people who are straight up sadistic and PROCEED TO TAKE UP NURSING OF ALL THINGS fucking terrifies me. it's like how pedos become kindergarden teachers....
@@miriamlevenson9430which is wild because medical racism literally kills people. Like the Black doctor who documented mistreatment on video before she died in the ER from COVID because her attending doctor ignored her.
He was unarmed, doing nothing wrong, besides being a young black man in America. Doesn’t matter if he was 15 or 50. It was WRONG. He was MURDERED. We can’t understand the physical fear that people of color live in.
I’m sorry the mom’s tweet saying that Trayvon wasn’t a child while simultaneously calling him a kid got me heated because like ???? those words are synonyms????? 17 is a child ????? The mental gymnastics these racists cows jump through are insane. great video Kat ❤
This video is so damn good. When you mentioned how Brooke’s apology feels like it’s more for the white people she doesn’t want to feel bad about following her… 🎯 It’s the performance for me. If you’re going to hold bigoted views, don’t be lukewarm about it.
I’m not black but experienced racism during my early years in school (from teachers). The body truly does keep the score & you wear that shame on your face/body. I doubt Brooke is even willing to contend with that, in the same way that she is unwilling to accept that she was/is racist. If you say racist things & trivialise the death of a black child, you are in-fact racist. She has not learned her lesson if she detaches her actions from the word. It’s almost nullifying the concept of ‘racism’ altogether. Black people owe Brooke Schofield nothing, but it doesn’t feel like she knows that.
Exactly none of these people are deserving of forgiveness, nor is anyone who has "matured". You dont get any acknowledge for being a barely decent human being.
Our housing is so segregated though, and I don’t think the internet is the same as KNOWING folks of color as individuals in your life. I grew up with non white friends and that enriched my world. I always saw people of color as PEOPLE. I think that’s because I knew them as individuals and not just some amorphous “group”.
@@edvh88 This is why we have to teach kids to think critically! If they only hear fox news at home, we need to teach them how to spot bias in the media and do their own research. Because access to the research was there for brooke schofield. She just didn't have the sense or care to look and ask questions. According to her she just believed everything she heard.
@@edvh88true but if you ignore something about a community that you never met in person it never has been easier to look them up to not be so ignorant and offensive and be respectful. We have to recognize that racism is not about ignorance anymore but about hatred and mockery. It always was honestly but now it’s just poor excuses
I’ve always questioned why these influencers never think to look back and delete their old tweets after blowing up but now I think it has something to do with white privilege, they either subconsciously or consciously know that they won’t be affected in the long run…
It will forever fascinate me how unsurprising it is when I find out yet another white person had a “racist phase” that was so insignificant to them that they most likely forgot about it even though it affected poc around them so deeply I’m sick and tired
Brooke gives the energy of someone who is not accountable. Its her explaining why she was racist that gets my hackels up. Like I don't need to know about your family situation. If Brooke was actually doing the work she would have apologized, accepted her actions without discusson of her family, hopefully looked into anti racist books and or media to educate herself, and in the best case scenario donate to a charity. She is a comfortable influencer. Put your money where your mouth is get some skin in the game.
As the saying goes, If you’re not mad, you’re not paying attention. It sucks that only POC are forced to reckon with the realities of racism while as a white person, I can choose to engage or not engage with it. I get a choice. Folks of color do not. It’s sickening. It’s bad for all of us, but lethal for folks to color.
Quite insightful, even as a POC I never could quite articulate *why* I don’t think we necessarily need to be kind or patient when discussing racism. The “edgy teens” are having a direct impact on POCs.
Hey guys, stop bullying her, she was just 16 or so when she made those tweets, she was just a chil- Oh wait a damn minute, what's the rule? If you get shot you're an adult but if you're racist you're just a child, is that it?
I still think about something you said in a video from years ago about Shane's then-current burst of goodwill after he apologized (before he was super-mega-cancelled). You said something like, "I do think people can change for the better, but I don't have to be on their journey with them." I know this is tangentially related, but I just wanted you to know that stuck with me.
i’m so glad that ppl stop tolerated the “it was 10 years ago she was in high school!!” bs because pocs who face ppl like that their whole lives (even a long time ago) don’t get to js forgive and forget about it
41 yr old white male (like 80% male). You legit impacted the way i feel about the whole " sorry i used to be racist" shtick. Definitely never like that myself, although my dad was pretty racist it was more "Bill Clinton" white liberal brand racism (i.e., Superpredators, Crackhouses, rap music is toxic b.s.) vs. the outright megabigotry of fox news, but i may have been too forgiving of folks who insisted they were sincerely apologetic when, in reality, they just didn't want the stigma attached to their true feelings.
I had a icky feeling after ressa tessa did her "who tf did I marry" and now making a X part long series became a trend and here's that white lady. You have podcast mam. Popular one a that. No need to piggy back of the trauma of a black lady.
I feel like the way she was brought up is valid.... But she was choosing post hateful and dehumanising statements online.... She was a racist With all of me I believe people have the ability to change. What makes me disbelieve her in her ability to change is she doesn't acknowledge she was racist. She doesn't truly acknowledge the impact and importance of those actions
We also can't forget that there's a ton of White people who are accepting her apology and forgiving her (then tell the affected people that they're horrible people for not forgiving them) when they have no right to do so. This reminds me of when Cr1tikal made a response video of iDubbz's apology saying that he shouldn't have apologized. Like, who asked you in the first place?!?!
Yup. And then even “leftists” will get angry at Kat for not accepting the apology or even reacting to Cr1tikal’s video were he claimed it wasn’t the racism that was bad it was being “cringe”
Ugh. When you're apologizing, pleeeeese don't talk about your feelings/intentions or attempt to explain where you're coming from. If you're doing that, then you're not sorry. I can't listen to that woman's apology video without wanting to interrupt and say, "Stop talking about yourself!" Unfortunately, so many apologies are like this. "I feel bad" is meaningless if you don't change.
If someone isn't racist they do not need to say, "I'm not racist". It is obvious from their words and actions. No denial needed. Feeling the need to say, "I'm not racist" is a pretty good indication that you might be racist.
It is clear that racism was a true bonding exercise for her, her friends, and her family (this is also true for more white people than we talk about). We really don't talk about this being a major problem in the reproduction of whiteness and white supremacy.
Sorry I'm only 1/3 of the way through the video and I am so not surprised how she's throwing her grandparents under the bus and using them as a scapegoat for her racist remarks and behavior. Gotta be somebody else's fault right? She had no choice apparently...Independent thought is not a thing in her household... gimme a break🙄 And if she were truly sorry about her past behavior and thinking, why didn't she address it herself rather than waiting for someone else to call her out on it? At this point she just doing damage control and trying not to hemorrhage money or any sponsorship deals she may have.
Honestly I’m at the point in my life where I’m tired of the phrase “I’m not racist”- we’ve all at some point in our lives said or done racist or biased things whether it be as white people to racial minorities, or as racial minorities to other minorities (stress on that- OTHER MINORITIES. “anti-white” racism doesn’t exist systemically) whether we meant to consciously or not. To think that we’re not or have never done, said, or thought something racist is frankly kind of silly. I don’t mean this in a “we’re all racist, we shouldn’t even try!” kind of way. What I mean by this is that it is on all of us to unlearn racism, to learn the way racism affects different groups on a systemic level, and *listen*. It is on each of us to make an effort to work away from racist thought and be more conscious of our biases. It’s an uncomfortable thought. No one wants to admit to being racist. It’s embarrassing! But I think we need to get comfortable with discomfort, because recognition of that is the first step. You *will* make mistakes. It’s your responsibility to recognize that, grow from it, learn from it, and not anyone else’s responsibility to forgive you for it along the way.
With most apologies, I usually believe the person apologizing technically understands what they did was wrong, even if they’re trying to avoid accountability in any way. This is one where it seems like she actively believes the opposite of what she’s saying.
I just don't know how one turns around fully from a mindset that says that murdering Black kids is fine. I used to listen to the podcast but I'm never afraid to find a new one. I clearly don't have the radar for racism and conservatism that Black creators do because I didn't see this coming but once it was here it made me fewl physically ill.
They don't see Black children as children. They see us as weirdly adultified. That's how Tamir Rice was murdered at age 12 whilst playing with a AirSoft toy gun. An officer identified him as being something like 22 (He was five-foot seven.) Officers off-scene kept asking if he was black or white about three to four times. Then they handcuffed his fourteen year old sister and shouted at his mother that if she didn't calm down they would arrest her.
george zimmerman was half peruvian in peruvian and when the peruvian community found out we were disgusted. idk how in touch he is with his peruvian roots but in Peru we have a large afro peruvian population. We love our afroperuvians and the culture. there is racism every where but we do not claim this man. a lot of people tried to justify that this man wasn’t racist he’s half latino, that doesn’t matter as i said latinos can be racist too.
I'm white and grew up in the UK. My school I went to was majority white, I think out of the 200 students in my year there was 2 black people. When I went to collage it was the first time I was around a lot of people of colour. My class at the time was about 50/50 white and asian and I made friends with the asian students and it did open my eyes. We didn't talk about racism specifically but I remember the first time talking to a friend he asked me what religion I thought he was assuming I would say muslim or hindu because he's asian. I like to believe I'm anti racist but part of that to me is being open to the fact that I hold onto some racist beliefs that I've been socialised into believing and haven't been made aware off and am been blind to. There was one point when I was volunteering at a community centre and met a black guy that was involved in organising BLM actions and he gave me the cold shoulder, I was a little bit offended at the time but understanding that he doesn't know me and that BLM events make him vulnerable, so me being a random white person he's never met why should he be vulnerable around me, I hadn't earned his trust and proved I wasn't racist. I haven't been actively racist to anyone, I haven't harrased anyone over race even being from a rural majority white town and I'm trying to be better such as going out to counter protest against the anti asian race riots going on in the UK right now. I hold myself to the standards of Cis allies on trans issues. If I haven't made a sacrifice to help then I can't be an ally and if I'm centering myself then I'm not an ally. What I do I tend to keep quiet about unless it's about giving a platform to someone more deserving
Honestly as a white person I never had a “racist phase” and grew up with decently progressive family and with parents who had friends from a variety of different backgrounds so I was exposed to a decent amount of different people fairly young. Obviously something isn’t going to always occur to us due to whiteness and etc but something that’s helped me learn to better accept criticism of “that phrase/statement/attitude/what have you is racist” is thinking of racism as an action rather than an immutable trait. It’s something you do and even the most well meaning white person can do racist actions. It’s a metaphor that’s worked for me and helped me deal with that stuff and this seemed like an appropriate comment section to share it in.
Yeah, that's why I don't trip. I've said or thought racist stuff bc I didn't grow up in a vacuum, it's not like emblazoned on my soul forever. Idk if this is an autism thing, maybe it's bc I'm not as dependent on proving myself to other ppl idk. Some people won't even accept that grace if you force it on them though. This girl has been harassing me in my building for three MONTHS because I told her cripple is a slur at a WORK event I was LEADING and legally obligated to ask her not to say that. But bc I'm disabled she thinks this means I've branded her a bigot and am making crazy accusations. I've extensively reassured her that it's not that serious to me (bc tbh it's not, my disability is severe enough that a rando's opinion is the last thing I have time to worry about, like for real get over yrself-- i DO get triggered about ableism like anti opioid hysteria but not shit like name calling lol) and i don't think she's a bigot etc etc but she will NOT let it go unless I retract my claim. I told her we're cool and let's just drop it and agree to disagree, she won't. She's trying to stir up sentiment against me, blasting me on the building message board, acting totally insane. It's genuinely at the level of disability based harassment at this point bc she has singled me out as a disabled person to give her the cripple pass and will not REST unless I give it to her.
@@SpecialBlanketyea thats crazy people cannot handle any ounce of accountability its crazy 😭. the fact u said u didnt take it personally and shes still so butthurt is just.. her ego must be very hurt that shes been called out on literally anything
See I don't buy the "she was young" excuse because I grew up with a racist grandmother, racist aunt and uncle, etc. I knew in elementary school that the things they said about black people weren't right. That it was ridiculous to bag your own groceries because the kid there with the cashier was black. That Rush Limbaugh sounded whiny and if I, age 8, acted like him I'd be punished for it. It's not hard to look at these people and see how miserable they are and how uncomfortable they make the people around them. You either want to be like them or you don't. They assume every white (or white-ish) person thinks the way they do. You don't have to fall in line. You can just be quiet. That's what I did when I was young.
I'm white, British, middle class, male, high-functioning autism and only recently realized I was bisexual in adulthood (with supportive parents), so I have no experience suffering from systemic prejudice. Bullying? Yes. Bureaucratic incompetence? Yes. But prejudice? No. If it's not for you and others who speak so honestly about society, I'd probably take these "apologies" with far less than salt than I should. Redemption is nice, but redemption isn't something gift-wrapped in a striped box with a cute little bow, waiting to be opened with cheers and celebrations.
I’m black, British, middle class, been to private school my whole life only got diagnosed with ADHD and Autism in sixth form + first gen South African, with a professor and paeds sister for parents. I agree with everything you’ve said
Thank you for making this video. I had tears in my eyes listening to the young lady share her experiences of being traumatized by the white ppl in her school. I think many black ppl carry that same trauma but we’re supposed to suppress it and continue to give more and more grace to the racists. I don’t have it in me to do that anymore. I agree with so much that you said. She was constantly minimizing and distancing herself from her actions. Those were the tweets and posts of a monster with no empathy.
I'm ngl i never understood the whole "I didn't know better argument," like i grew up in one of the statistically whitest places in America and I knew not to be racist, what happened with these people? (Granted, my folks were never conservative but by their the environmental factors still should've made racism normal, so it's interesting to me that they didn't)
I watched a couple episodes of Cancelled after the Clinton Kane drama, and while I can't remember what it was, they said something about politics that gave me pause. I don't think either of them takes it very seriously, possibly because they won't be as affected by the outcome as others will be. I definitely get the feeling that anything either says about being more progressive or less racist is just for the camera. Maybe they have changed since they were younger, but it's definitely not as big of a change as they want us to believe.
this video hits incredibly hard, I've told my darling white husband about the racist bullying and terror I was subject to growing up, its so incredibly traumatizing and all I want is for those who have perpetuated that kind of abuse to own it and take accountability !!!! thank you as always for coming at these topics in a level headed and thoughtful way when its so easy for people to get sucked up into the drama cycle ❤ and maybe this is lowkey selfish to ask on such a serious video but where did you get that wig?? you look sooo good I need 😂😭
It annoys me so much that so many people dislike being called racist than they do actual racism. It hurts and is uncomfortable to be faced with the fact that your actions have caused harm, but it is in no way as bad as the harm that your actions have caused but we are so willing to cater towards white peoples tears that we are expected to just sit alongside their harm as they are more concerned with being called racist than the harm of their actions
At the end of the day, I just genuinely think most yt people don't actually care about racism. That's one of the reasons it's hard for me to have yt friends. At some point they say some ish that doesn't seem right with me, and I end up being the "bad guy" as you said for calling it out
Unfortunately, this is true, and these are the good ones. The bad ones want to send us back to Jim Crow. So many of these inequities would be easily solved if the white people claim to be "good" actually give 5% of a damn about racism. Because even the "good ones" enjoy the comforts of white supremacy.
This hits home for me on so many levels as a black creator. I had to step away from RUclips for years because so many yt ppl think it’s fun to be racist and troll and antagonize you. They don’t just say racist things, but do horrible things to black creators for literal entertainment but as soon as you as something about it, it’s flipped on you as playing the race card and you’re dogpiled. Also, a lot of platforms literally do nothing to stop this from happening.
No this situation was crazy because my friend and I had a poignant conversation about "cancel culture", the way society tends to forgive white people more easily, the importance of growth, our experiences dealing with racism, and more while watching a vid on what happened. We paused the vid to talk and were leaning towards giving Brooke grace until we finally continued the vid and learned about her "[b-slur] dip" comment and other things she was still doing. Like literal egg on my face, egg on my friends face, we were like "so much for trying to be nuanced n understanding" lmaooo
Podcast suggestion: In the Dark. It's true crime, but done by a team of real journalists. They are great storytellers who focus on a different crime each season, honing in on the systemic issues. And they aren't afraid to call a prosecutor racist! Their findings from their second season were cited before the supreme court and helped save the life of Curtis Flowers, a black man who had been tried six times for a crime he clearly didn't commit, and sentenced to death. He is now a free man, in part due to their work.
True crime I wouldn't hate. I hate the profiling stuff, this is like reverse that. It remembers the innocent people and reminds folks of the few cautions taken that people start to resent. Like so many people think arrest means guilty
This video is exceptional. You have introduced new perspectives to consider, even as a black person. I hope others can take your points and really let them sink in.
Brings to mind Hulk Hogan when his racist tirade was exposed. Whether his red eyed tearful apology was genuine or not is secondary, and I hate myself for not realizing why it didn't quite sit right with me. Till I realized, he was sorry that people heard it, he was sorry he subjected his daughter to it (and all the while still insisting he wasn't racist) But that whole N word laced meltdown was because he found out his daughter was dating a black guy. WHERE WAS THE APOLOGY TO HIM? Along that same line, where is her apology to Trayvon Martin and his family? If you willingly punch someone in the gut and then laugh at them while their on the ground in pain, you don’t make it right by turning around to the room and going "I'm sorry i supbjected you all to that" and ignore the direct victim of your violence.
Thank you for making this video. Black creators are who SHOULD be talking about this. The amount of ignorance in other videos is appalling. You continuously open my eyes to new perspectives. Keep up the good work!!
you really put to words exactly how i felt about this situation. I'm south asian and i faced a lot of racism growing up in a majority white area. I believe people can grow and change. It's just so annoying that they get to grow and change from being racist while I had to face their cruelty and have to grow from that. That racism is just a mistake for them while it's extremely dehumanizing for me. and then people like brooke get to keep a monetized platform while the victims will probably never get a true direct apology.
Just to possibly correct something: at 9:07 when you talk about Brooke's mother and her saying Trayvon wasn't a child, I actually think it was Brooke that said that. It looks like her mum was quote tweeting (years ago replying to a tweet would be "your comment RT @Username and their quote"). Just that the RT bit was probably deleted by the mum due to character space. Either way, doesn't excuse either of their comments.
I've seen the lifetime of this activity first hand. Had a friend since I was seven. He was white and we used to laugh at racism when it happened. He would defend me, I'd defend him, it felt like we were laughing at the world. Around ages 11-14 is when homie straight up slowly changed into the content he consumed and found funny. He found camaraderie with other "edgy" white kids. Well, we know where they end up mentally, they either adopt the perspective of that of which they cooperate with (white racial paranoia and supremacy), or they come around years later (im 22 now) and realize their faults. As a black queer person here in the south, I get that whole feeling like you need to assimilate and be tolerated, so you allow racism to occur to you and you kinda just freeze up. The sheer "how in the fuck do I even deal with this person, I'm 12 being expected to give grown adults a sociopolitical epiphany". As someone 22 that has stayed in Texas, they don't change. At least not enough in our life for us to be tolerated. I can't fix them. For self preservation I say we have to leave and be self serving or else we get swallowed. Something I've learned over the last four years is that if you don't choose your pain, it chooses you, so do as much as you can and work hard for YOU.
This is kind of irrelevant in the greater conversation, but Zimmerman didn't just auction off the gun, he started selling autographed bags of skittles. Because that was the only thing that Trayvon Martin had in his pockets when he was murdered. By the guy now selling the skittles. I'm actually more upset about the people buying it than the one piece of sh-t who should be rotting in a jail cell. (It's really hard to be anti-carceral when people like that exist lol)
20:59 I relate a lot with this woman's tiktok, growing up as an openly gay neurodivergent kid in a very conservative rural area. Though i've never experienced anything as extreme as what this lady went through; I was only threatened death once and that was for not standing for the pledge. I was harassed by some of the faculty for my beliefs, and periodically a group of boys would approach me and talk shit about how one of their friends has a crush on me, and they did this up until the week before our highschool graduation - and I've been dating my girlfriend for years at that point. Also a friend and I both got in trouble and was called into the office for pretending to be Santa in the girl's locker room, but I was the only one given a lecture about how 'it's different because you're a lesbian' while my friend's just twiddling her thumbs
"... and periodically a group of boys would approach me and talk shit about how one of their friends has a crush on me ..." Ugh, why is this a universal experience for us???
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The Trojan Horse Affair is an incredible true story told in a short series, I think it’s 12 or so episodes. It’s about how a low performing school district in a predominantly Muslim community did a 180 in record time by embracing the culture… only to be sabotaged in a weird series of events. It happened in the UK and the reporting on the story has been minimal, for reasons that are explored throughout the episodes which are incredibly suspicious. I know a story about a school might not sound too interesting, but it is so engrossing and very informative- plus I think it’s an important story that more should know about, but I couldn’t help myself from binging the whole thing in a day or two. It’s told so well!!
Behind the Bastards is great too!
"he was not a kid, he was 17". What the actual hell does that mean, it's not ok to murder adults either. If he was 18, 21, 42, it would have been just as atrocious tf
EXACTLY this sentiment. Being mad that Trayvon was humanized by sharing pictures of him when he was younger was also a level of depravity I don’t have the patience for.
“No you don’t understand, his skin col- I mean height was menacing! So Zimmerman was reasonably in fear for his life”
Not just that, she said “he wasn’t a CHILD, the KID was 17” like ok so you recognize he was a kid then? But he apparently had to be a child for murder to be unjustified??
especially when the Black teen doesn't even get to be seen, as "just a kid," when he murdered no one. He was murdered.
Like. Only Racist or conspiracy logic can make sense of that. Like. That so messed up.
Like. One Kid commited basically terrorism "he's just a kid."
Treyvon wasnt even seen as a kid when he WAS murdered. That's bullshit. Like.
Even at my most racist and fucked up, that's wrong. That's clearly wrong!
Weird how Brooke Schofield's mom tweets that Trayvon Martin is not a child while also saying "The kid was 17 years old"
"he's not a child he's just a 17 year old kid theres a DIFFERENCE" deranged 💀
20-something white girls are just kids, but 17 year old black boys are fully grown, of course. 🙄😒
Whether it was a mistake or type, i think it's very telling of her racism.
I clocked that too. Such a weirdo
I can't help but feel like she typed "boy" first, if you catch my drift.
her using the college papers thing as a defense is just so gross because not only did she yeah, say she faked liberal views for grades, but whats worse is thats admission she RESEARCHED AND WROTE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLES STRUGGLES, then CONTINUED HER R@CISM!. ''she didnt knowww any better'' SHE LITERALLY EDUCATED HERSELF TO KNOW BETTER. she was met with it face first and you know what she did? turned the other way.
she just typed that paper out blindly, her brain can't comprehend struggle
Genuinely insidious 😭
Wait so are there more racist tweets that happened AFTER she did that paper?
@@scrimblo5845she herself in her ”apology” videos confessed that she didn’t really change her views until after college, once she had been living in LA for a while. Do with that what you will. But considering her like of maga post with Trump recently & her sitting silently staring ahead, pouting like a child in a bad mood while her co host tried to express support for Palestinians being killed in Gaza recently as well. Extremely zionist social media posts from friends, friends to both of them. And her ”I lthink Kid Rock is hot” that she deleted from her bio. Zero ppl of color as guests on the pod. I’d say her ”not racist anymore” is looking alot like: I make alot of money now in LA as an influencer and podcaster, so I know how to hide what I am to keep that lifestyle. Ppl that has been like that for so long, do they just suddenly become not a racist. Really?
@@scrimblo5845mhm
Excellent framing here. If high school kids have a "racist phase" that Black students have to deal with and internalize we're still prioritizing them over the kids who are victims of that trauma. They were making overt lynching "jokes" in group settings to this young woman and everyone treated it like it was normal. That made my blood run cold.
I may say and done bad shit but WHAT?! NO. DUDE. WTF.
I feel guilty for my shit and I won't pretend I didn't do or say bad shit, but like.
DUDE. NOOOO.
That was devastating.
It honestly made me feel sick. Whenever I think of kids being racist I always think it’s like a joke to be “edgy” (like the baptism one) or it being purely out of ignorance and thinking that because some white people have hard lives that must mean racism isn’t real.
That poor girl was TERRORIZED. People in her school thought it was funny that she feared for her physical safety…how do you just “grow out of” behaving like a monster?
The most annoying thing about these situations is there's always an unsolicited army of ppl defending the person harder than they're defending themself. Why do ppl feel the need to defend racists and accept apologies that weren't for them ?
Two reasons
1) Their own guilt
2) They don't understand that experiencing racism is a traumatic experience that BIPOC can't opt out of or ignore
yep and because of that army shes already back after less than a week lmao
because they recoginze that they are the same, and then give the emptahy that they would have wanted if it was them on the chopping block // coming from a white women
Because some white ppl love making everything about themselves and also I think they see themselves in her or people like her. Maybe guilt too? As someone else stated above me.
So that they can use those defenses upon themselves when they exhibit the same behavior is another factor. "Look everybody, she did nothing wrong, so I did nothing wrong!!!"
"He was not a CHILD. The kid was 17."
Kid = child
17 years old = child.
classic adultification of blk kids
A CHILD DOES NOT GET THEIR CHILDHOOD REVOKED FOR BEING TALL, HEAVY, OR DARK SKINNED
(Cheers from Kahlil to Khalil lol)
@@kahlilbtthey shouldn’t but sadly they do. Black children are seen as innocent children for far shorter periods than their white counterparts. Their childhood ends at puberty at which point they are either seen as hyper sexual (black girls) or as violent thugs (black boys). The adultification of black children has to end
@@kahlilbtpreach! adultification of children, especially black children is soooo disgusting. same goes for teenage girls that are more curvy and developed. still children.
@kahlilbt I was gonna add that height has nothing to do with age because if that's the case, my small ass is still a child.
"even in her growth black people are dehumanized" absolutely
so true about being expected to give grace to white women like Brooke. Like people saying she deserves a second chance, meanwhile minority groups often don't even get a first chance from people bc they have racist prejudices against them, the same as Brooke has shown.
why do you say ‘women’ and not ‘white *people*’?
@@feltfrog it's important to question how white women use their womanhood to evade responsibility from their mistakes. White women very often position themselves as victims in order to not be accountable for their violent and racist behaviour. White women will use their tears when they are called out for messed up behaviour in order to evade responsibility and position themselves as victims. Why would it be necessary to talk about white people in general when we are discussing the behaviour of a white woman?
@@feltfrog It might be because Brooke is a white woman and we're talking about her rn, it doesn't really matter the sentiment still stands
@@feltfrog probably partially because we're talking about a woman, but also because racism has a distinct character between white men and women.
@@feltfrog Bc White woman are often not held to the same standard of accountability and frequently their tears often galvanise white supremacist violence, seen as pitiable maidens in contrast to none white woman. Seen as the 'gentle' ideal to protect.
The audacity and irony of her saying Trayvon wasnt a child while calling him a kid in the same sentence
The “caucacity” you mean? I love that phrase.
@@edvh88 that too
She's pretty dumb.
I think the reason her tweets are so jarring is because they're sadistic. She wasn't just ignoring her family's racism, she enjoyed being racist as well. That's not simply ignorance. It's also a bit disturbing that she admitted that after college she still felt the same way, but I mean at least she was honest. I always want to believe people change, but we should never forget that just because someone has changed it doesn't undo the harm they caused.
In her apology video while talking about unlearning racism she said she started realising stuff when she was in college and even wrote her thesis on racial disparity. It seems cool to see her say that on the apology but when that tweet comes up it's just too damning. She was tweeting racist stuff while in college. How being liberal while writing essays have got her more marks. This is a whole other level of sinister racism. People who know the facts and still choose to hate because hating is what comes most natural to racists like that. She's a deep seated racist not like these ppl who were kids and tweeted the n word.
She says she thought it was cool to mirror what her grandparents were saying so now that she's in LA it's cool to have the same view as everyone else there. How do we know what's real lol
@@baby_ghoul i hadn’t seen anyone else frame it like this - the sadistic part. it’s interesting to think about. in some ways that is part of the whole cancelled podcast branding. i really empathized with brooke because i do believe she was abused by her ex, but i hope she uses that experience to only intensify her efforts to support reparations and use her platform for good instead of just good PR for a few weeks
she faked her “liberal views” DURING her college experience… what changes after college ??? continuing education??? doubt it
Absolutely. And it's always suspicious to me that they are "changed" now that they have a public platform and are getting called out. It's just so exhausting.
This. I grew up in a very white conservative small southern town around a lot of racists, and I am definitely guilty of covert racism like micro-aggressions/fetishization... but even as a young woman, I KNEW overt racism was fucked up and never acted like Brooke by *gleefully* and *publicly* participating in dehumanization by bragging about being racist or using slurs like it was a fun and edgy thing to do. 🙄
The fact that Brooke gets to excuse her racism by saying she was young and knows better now, where Trayvon Martin was the same age and has been adultified so often as if being almost 18 could ever even remotely excuse or explain his murder-this shows so brutally how Black youth are adultified. Citing the fact that he was 17 and almost an adult! or whatever is one of the most thinly veiled BULLSHIT excuses I’ve ever seen for a person being MURDERED. I’ll never forgive the country I live in for allowing such a blatant and DISGUSTING act to slide.
This video is so well-ordered and articulate. So grateful you have been on the internet as a creator for as long as you have, Kat Blaque, and that you’re still creating commentaries like this.
Its so dehumanizing but she will never get it will she. Willfully so.
Yup. She is given grace that’s not extended to black youth.
Mm, but it's normal when yr a late teenager to think that that's grown.
Alexis’ testimony is so harrowing, her and her sister were terrorized by her school! None of those kids who terrorized them should ever be allowed to plead ignorance
Her experiences were atrocious but I also hope she knows how incredibly brave and stunning she is.
(Honestly, I was thinking to myself "THIS is what the mouse company should've have done for casting their Black princess. Don't change a thing, tell the story and let the 'happy ending' be her the moment we're sharing, empathizing, and *hopefully* some are learning from.")
Amazing person. May she have the best life.
Also, the school did nothing. The other parents did nothing. Now those same people can go around telling everybody they've changed. No accountability.
As a Muslim that's the same age as Brooke, I had to deal with anti-Muslim bigotry from a majority white school after 9/11. This is back when I didn't even wear a hijab on my head, so they chose to express bias based on my name and skin color. It's not enough for these white teenagers to be 'not racist'. Being 'not racist' doesn't absolve you of the actual harmful shitty behaviors you continued, such as starting rumors, or being unkind, or espousing views that carried actual weight towards other human beings. Being 'anti-racist' is the only way to exist now, no questions or if and buts.
I'm completely sideways after learning that she pretended to be liberal in college to get a better grade while writing essays, and she literally was educated on the subject of brutality towards Black folks, only to look the other way. That means she CHOSE to be this way of her own accord, and she decided her views were more precious to her than learning or changing her mind.
she was so silent when her cohost spoke about palestine she just stared at her and then they moved on
She did that because she knew she’d be “cancelled” if she openly supported Israel yet didn’t want to even pretend to support Palestine. She followed the age old advice of “if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all” and hoped she’d skate by
As a white person, I think this is an important message. People are so afraid to be called racist when in reality, so many of us were born into racist families or conditioned to hear racial biases that we become numb to it when BIPOC people don’t have this privilege. I feel like we need to start recognizing that as white people, it’s rare not to be racist to some degree even if we are working on being anti-racist because of the privilege we are born with in a white supremacist society. Of course, nothing is that simple and it’s not just white people who express harmful and racist/prejudiced things but yeah…the more we can recognize this the better.
This, and also not expecting praise or hand-holding for learning and being better.
it's the difference between wanting to avoid racism because you think racism is wrong, and wanting to avoid racism because being seen as racist makes you feel bad. in the latter situation, a person will never accept their culpability, because acknowledging it would be more humiliating than the act itself. they CANNOT stand to be seen as racist, even to apologize for it. in the former situation, one recognizes that their actions have an impact, and prioritizes that over their own ego. they know that you can have every good intention and still say something wrong, so you have to be comfortable with apologizing and changing, because sticking to your guns is more hurtful to others even if it spares your own feelings.
Concur, I know the 'everyone has a racist phase' is a cheap excuse, but the reality is I think the reality is that most places are built on white supremacy and it is ingrained in white people, you aren't born 'better' than racist white people ,you have the same capacity for racism as them and it's something to constantly work on and strive to be better. Without the expectation that you will be 'absolved' or forgiven/that none white people HAVE to feel safe around you after you've worked on yourself
I agree with you. I actually think that most of us, in the Us at least, grow up in social groups that encourage not just racist but sexist, homophobic, queer-phobic, and classist attitudes. I know that when a child in these groups feels uncomfortable they usually don’t speak up because of the social fallacy that friends don’t criticize each other and the desire for belonging. This especially affects the bipoc kids who are in majority white spaces and don’t want to be isolated from longtime friends.
Absolutely. I grew up in racist spaces and even though I knew it was wrong, it took a while to unlearn and I’m still unpacking things I was told as a kid or checking my biases. I can’t say I ever tweeted anything like Brooke or thought these kinds of jokes were funny as I did know better, but I’m still not perfect. Growing up white, you’re often not forced to think critically about stuff and I know I have been racist unintentionally.
I’m Jewish (and white) and there is a huge move by some Jews (not all don’t get me wrong) not to acknowledge the racism in our culture because it somehow negates the abuses we’ve suffered…which no it doesn’t. I get really tired of these people, especially when Black Jews are literally yelling at us to do better and other white Jews are like, “We are all Jews of color! Maybe you just had a bad experience!” (Which, no we aren’t.)
Every time I’m like “she’s gonna imply I might be an introspective hot person… she’s gonna do it AAAH SHE’S DOING ITT!!!!” And then mentally and/or physically kick my legs and squeal haha
I do the saaame!! 🥰
Same! It makes me feel so validated. 🥰
I know it's just a funny tagline, but I can't help feeling kind of good when I hear that too tbh.
Im mentally tucking back a lock of hair and saying, "Who... me?" 🤭
Hot and introspective is my exact aesthetic
I will never understand for the life of me after all these years and all these incidents of past tweets coming back to haunt people…why influencers haven’t bothered to scrub their old social media posts. It’s your page, you can control what’s on it. 💀
they dont think theyve said anything wrong or they would clear it out
Sometimes the fact that you delete the stuff brings attention lol.
@@rachael5025 Exactly. I could buy that they’ve changed - we all change over time…I don’t buy that they actually care enough to have remorse unprompted.
Her arguing with people in the comments and still being a Trump supporter…she doesn’t actually care.
@@MsMarmimanot if it’s just a regular part of maintaining your social media
@@rachael5025i think it’s a mix of this and entitlement and laziness. They assume their fans aren’t bored/invested enough to scrub through years of old tweets to catch them being assholes.
As a young british nigerian woman, I’m slowly realising that there is nothing more I can do to help stop people from being racist.
Although it’s never been my duty, the consequences of racism have only ever affected me, whilst my (micro)aggressor gets to walk away satisfied. I bought into the lie that assimilation will offer you some form of protection- a buffer, if you will. I chose to wear leave-outs instead of wigs or braids so people would stop talking about/touching my hair, developed a softer voice and meek personality so people can’t say that I’m “angry all the time”, learned how to be “well spoken”, never brought my country’s food to school/work for lunch in case it “smelled”, always smiled when walking past older white people so they’ll think I’m “one of the good ones”, etc.
I get so excited to share my culture with others but, I can’t help but wonder if I do so in part because I want to make people less afraid of me. Not because I am scary, but because the brownness of my skin is a threat to many. I am so exhausted. I don’t feel like smiling anymore.
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I hope you can learn that you don't have to reshape yourself or make yourself smaller to make yt people comfortable. They will never be comfortable no matter what you do, they will always shift the goalposts to ensure you keep reshaping yourself for their comfort, and they still won't ever be satisfied. So the thing to do is to make yourself comfortable, and live in your own truth. The ones who appreciate you and your culture will show themselves; the ones who don't aren't worth your time.
I'm really sorry people put you through these experiences. Personally I think exposure is the only thing that can take away this irrational fear people seem to have of cultures that are foreign/unknown to them. I know as a child I would feel this strange fear when seeing women fully veiled in hijabi's, even though I knew back then that there was no logical or justifiable reason to feel this way. That apprehension only fully went away when I went to college, when I started regularly spending time with and making friends with people who have this culture.
Also if it could offer you a tiny bit of consolation, I don't think your desire to share your culture has anything to do with wanting to make people less afraid. I was born and raised in the Balkans and my family moved to Belgium while I was still in elementary school, and I will take any chance I can get to share the food, or idioms or stories or practices from my culture with my friends. We all want to share the things we love with the people we love and personally, it makes me feel less alone
I’m so so sorry that you made yourself smaller in order to try and protect yourself from hate, and to “protect” white people from the parts of yourself they would view as “other”. Shame on them and shame on all of us white people who don’t work to make this a safe and equatable world for all people. I hope you can embrace being your authentic self, whatever that looks like for YOU. That’s a radical act of bravery. I’m sorry this word is so sick.
I have those same thoughts and I’ve done those exact things. Especially, the- excitedly introducing other people to my own culture because I know at some level that they’re afraid of it and me due to my Blackness so I act proactively to dispel that.
I recently discussed the strangeness of people suddenly launching headfirst into racist language when say, they're road raging with my (Brown) partner and how disappointing it is when they haven't displayed that mindset anywhere else in life. Dealing with this firsthand with family in the past where I tell them that's not okay gets me ganged up on and yelled at.😕
Ugh that’s frustrating💔💔
I am so not the "I'm black and...." person but I discussed this with my husband who happens to be white. My best analogy is what you champion (I appreciate you being a decent person in that regard). If your weird racist uncle tells an off color joke and nobody says anything what does that say about those who are silent? This fits ALL races as well. It's an issue of ignorance. Thank you again
@@lucidasmr6413 Once the cops were called when my family was all having a shouting match and I told them straight up I couldn't deal with the racist shit anymore. It's simply not cute, full stop, and I'll stick up for that opinion to anyone (Maybe shouldn't play along with shouting though 😅). All the best to you both. I want to marry my guy too. 🥰
Sounds like an issue of cowardice.@@lucidasmr6413
@@lucidasmr6413 That's why I have nothing but metric tons of respect for my dad for removing himself from his family once he knew how they were, and making sure us kids were no where near his family members who were like that or even that we had/have some until I was much older.
As a white person, it all comes down to this: I was a racist kid, I’m sure I still have internalized racist beliefs to this day. I work on learning about both myself and other people to shake those beliefs that I adopted, willingly or subconsciously. It shouldn’t be hard to admit that most if not all white people grew up racist. Refusing to shake those beliefs, refusing to admit that you are a work in progress unlearning years or decades of crappy politics and opinions and continuing to work on our (my) faults is where I usually draw the line with people I actively refuse to associate with anymore.
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Here's your 🍪 for being bare minimum decent. Wishing for healing for any minority you may have made miserable in your youth for shits and giggles.
@@nostolgiagore why comment this and not give actual feedback?
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My question is, how do you allow yourself to be so closed off and indoctrinated into those "crappy politics and opinions"? I have had immediate family members with some awful views, but even as a child, I maintained empathy. It just seems like a lot of white people who go through "phase" immediately blame their family members for their own actions, and many do it over the internet, which is ironic.
That hair shape and style on your face shape is EVERYTHING Kat!!!!
Literally what I was thinking omg
The 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman not to get out of the car and approach Trayvon Martin because Zimmerman had no cause to do so!
Exactly! He said he was going to follow him on foot and they told him there was no need to do that. They said not to follow him, not to engage 😡 He had no authority to question, harass or bother that boy. He wasn't a police officer, but even if he was, Trayvon was doing nothing wrong or illegal! Trayvon's death still makes me mad, especially because my nephew's name is Tre'von. Such a tragedy smh
@@eternityriley1833 he was a neighborhood watchman with a power trip. The position didn't even necessitate a gun, if I'm not mistaken.
Kat is really stepping up on that camera charisma. So professional.
Thank you!!
I can't get enough! She's so wonderful.
it truuue. i'm here being charmed.
And looking so good! That wolfcut looks incredible! Makes me want to get one but I know i wouldn’t pull it off like that
you going "DON'T LAUGH AT THAT. DON'T LAUGH AT THAT" was 100x funnier than the bean dip joke
DON’T LAUGH AT THAT made me cackle like a cartoon hyena
Her saying not to laugh had the opposite effect. 😂😅
The bean dip joke is a perfect example of something that’s funny if it’s said within your own community / family, but not from an outsider with ill intent. Like, I can make fun of my little brother, but no one else can.
@@edvh88yeah. there are a lot of things that people within a community think its pretty funny to say to eachother because its almost always clear that its truly lighthearted with no.. odd undercurrents. like when "acoustic" is used by autistic people to refer to themselves or make a joke that isn't at someones expense, its funny, but its reallyy not very funny when everyone just uses it to say something/someone is stupid, or dumb, or whatever very negative adjective you'd like to conjure up. basically just becoming a stand in for the r word.
true, i wasn’t even thinking about laughing until she said that, then i couldn’t contain it
scar makers don’t like being in trouble nor want to hear about whom they made bleed
Preach.
Pretending to have left-leaning views is collage sounds kinda like "my racism isn't fun in this space, but wait until I get home" 😓😓😓😓
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💯% accurate
"Racism isn't fun in this space, I thought universities were accepting of everyone. Whatever happened to free speech, yall?" 😩
And we see conservatives youth TO THIS DAY bragging about how they “had” to pretend they had left leaning views in order to pass, but frame this as “woke” colleges having left wing bias, totally ignoring the fact that maybe THEY could be wrong.
its so fucked i know so many white people like this istg 😐
I think Brooke saying she's thankful to the people defending her in her apology is so telling in and of itself. I can't discuss all my feelings in one one comment but it's just something that didn't sit right with me
This is a really tricky one. As much I do believe that people _can_ be forgiven for saying racist/sexist/homophobic/etc things in their youth, this situation does feel very different. It's not like she just said the n-word a few times to be edgy, she was an outright racist. There's a line and she crossed it multiple times. It's very difficult for me to think she is any different now, given the evidence. Personally, I do not accept her apology, I will never accept her apology, and her past will not be forgotten.
It’s never your job to accept her apology, and I think it’s valid to reject it. No matter how much a racist/bigot have “changed their ways”, the damages have been done. No amount of guilt and actions trying to prove that they’re not the same person anymore will be able to undo the trauma that has been put onto their victims.
@@Kalitayy Agreed.
@@Kalitayyyou may be right. But she refuses to do even that much.
Like she asks for an apology but then does the same stuff.
I wouldn't know, but probably doesn't help
@@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 Whether she did or did not do the same stuff after the apology, it doesn't matter. She had a "racist phase", she was racist. That in itself shows that she's not a good person and she will never be. Maybe she can change and do good things in the future, maybe in the next 20-30 year she would become an ally. But no amount of virtue and contribution will ever undo the damage she had done in the past. Doing good things =/= being a good person.
This was an "apology" from someone who got caught, not from someone who felt genuine remorse for negatively affecting their peers. And her "growth" was only from her growing out of her edgy, racist phase so she never took the time to reflect on anything.
I'm general, there's no need to forgive anyone, especially if the scars run deep. But there was no apology here to accept. Just excuses.
The "I'm not racist. I just said/did racist sh-t" part is always some impressive mental gymnastics. Also, Behind the Bastards is my favorite podcast.
It's giving I'm r@cist but want to face no consequences for it.
OHMYGOD LOOOOVE THE HAIR , like you're so beautiful.. I am starstruck.
RIight!!!
That shape on her face is EVERYTHING
@@FindYourBalance5478 Yeessss ✨
I thought the same thing! The shag cut is SO gorgeous on Kat!
I know right??? The lighting, the delicate makeup.. chefs kiss
Agreed
30:47 why am i not shocked that she went to nursing school and had racist tweets resurface.
it’s always the worst people from ur high school who major in nursing 😭😭
And they are the girls there to marry a surgeon & be a SAHM. If they do not they take it out on everybody,
@@miriamlevenson9430 the ammount of people who are straight up sadistic and PROCEED TO TAKE UP NURSING OF ALL THINGS fucking terrifies me. it's like how pedos become kindergarden teachers....
@@miriamlevenson9430which is wild because medical racism literally kills people. Like the Black doctor who documented mistreatment on video before she died in the ER from COVID because her attending doctor ignored her.
No one is racist once it affects their bottom line. Well, no one is 'publicly' racist.
“Quit acting like Zimmerman shot n killed a CHILD, the KID was 17 years old” interesting..
adultification of blk children
This reminds me of my GG saying "do you want to taste that sentence again before spitting it out!"
She definitely did not taste it.
He was unarmed, doing nothing wrong, besides being a young black man in America. Doesn’t matter if he was 15 or 50. It was WRONG. He was MURDERED. We can’t understand the physical fear that people of color live in.
I’m sorry the mom’s tweet saying that Trayvon wasn’t a child while simultaneously calling him a kid got me heated because like ???? those words are synonyms????? 17 is a child ????? The mental gymnastics these racists cows jump through are insane.
great video Kat ❤
Maybe she thought he was a goat
I will never forget what people looked like on the train in Brooklyn after Trayvon Martin was murdered. So grim. And still.
This video is so damn good. When you mentioned how Brooke’s apology feels like it’s more for the white people she doesn’t want to feel bad about following her… 🎯
It’s the performance for me. If you’re going to hold bigoted views, don’t be lukewarm about it.
You comparing Brooke Schofield's like to a shady bf behaviour on instagram is so spot on.
I’m not black but experienced racism during my early years in school (from teachers). The body truly does keep the score & you wear that shame on your face/body. I doubt Brooke is even willing to contend with that, in the same way that she is unwilling to accept that she was/is racist. If you say racist things & trivialise the death of a black child, you are in-fact racist. She has not learned her lesson if she detaches her actions from the word. It’s almost nullifying the concept of ‘racism’ altogether. Black people owe Brooke Schofield nothing, but it doesn’t feel like she knows that.
Alexisdenisew is completely right. Honestly I don't believe in forgiveness anymore, not for stuff like this
Exactly none of these people are deserving of forgiveness, nor is anyone who has "matured". You dont get any acknowledge for being a barely decent human being.
That's how I'm feeling nowadays
With the internet, the whole ignorance enclave thing is a poorer and poorer excuse
Our housing is so segregated though, and I don’t think the internet is the same as KNOWING folks of color as individuals in your life. I grew up with non white friends and that enriched my world. I always saw people of color as PEOPLE. I think that’s because I knew them as individuals and not just some amorphous “group”.
@@edvh88 This is why we have to teach kids to think critically! If they only hear fox news at home, we need to teach them how to spot bias in the media and do their own research. Because access to the research was there for brooke schofield. She just didn't have the sense or care to look and ask questions. According to her she just believed everything she heard.
@@edvh88true but if you ignore something about a community that you never met in person it never has been easier to look them up to not be so ignorant and offensive and be respectful.
We have to recognize that racism is not about ignorance anymore but about hatred and mockery.
It always was honestly but now it’s just poor excuses
I’ve always questioned why these influencers never think to look back and delete their old tweets after blowing up but now I think it has something to do with white privilege, they either subconsciously or consciously know that they won’t be affected in the long run…
And her liking that trump post recently really leaves nothing up for “debate” in my eyes
It will forever fascinate me how unsurprising it is when I find out yet another white person had a “racist phase” that was so insignificant to them that they most likely forgot about it even though it affected poc around them so deeply I’m sick and tired
Brooke gives the energy of someone who is not accountable. Its her explaining why she was racist that gets my hackels up. Like I don't need to know about your family situation. If Brooke was actually doing the work she would have apologized, accepted her actions without discusson of her family, hopefully looked into anti racist books and or media to educate herself, and in the best case scenario donate to a charity. She is a comfortable influencer. Put your money where your mouth is get some skin in the game.
I'm so tired of these people and the excuses. I'm mad all the time.
As the saying goes, If you’re not mad, you’re not paying attention. It sucks that only POC are forced to reckon with the realities of racism while as a white person, I can choose to engage or not engage with it. I get a choice. Folks of color do not. It’s sickening. It’s bad for all of us, but lethal for folks to color.
The wolf cut suits you, the outfit too, u ate this up.
Quite insightful, even as a POC I never could quite articulate *why* I don’t think we necessarily need to be kind or patient when discussing racism.
The “edgy teens” are having a direct impact on POCs.
Hey guys, stop bullying her, she was just 16 or so when she made those tweets, she was just a chil- Oh wait a damn minute, what's the rule? If you get shot you're an adult but if you're racist you're just a child, is that it?
Leaving it up in 2024 counts as saying it in 2024 as far as I'm concerned. If she really changed she woulda deleted it
I still think about something you said in a video from years ago about Shane's then-current burst of goodwill after he apologized (before he was super-mega-cancelled). You said something like, "I do think people can change for the better, but I don't have to be on their journey with them." I know this is tangentially related, but I just wanted you to know that stuck with me.
i’m so glad that ppl stop tolerated the “it was 10 years ago she was in high school!!” bs because pocs who face ppl like that their whole lives (even a long time ago) don’t get to js forgive and forget about it
41 yr old white male (like 80% male). You legit impacted the way i feel about the whole " sorry i used to be racist" shtick. Definitely never like that myself, although my dad was pretty racist it was more "Bill Clinton" white liberal brand racism (i.e., Superpredators, Crackhouses, rap music is toxic b.s.) vs. the outright megabigotry of fox news, but i may have been too forgiving of folks who insisted they were sincerely apologetic when, in reality, they just didn't want the stigma attached to their true feelings.
lol you’re 100% male
love the hair - very demure, very mindful.
It's giving bad bish!!!
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My read is sexy lounge singer. I love this look!
"Her apology was for her audience, not her victims" - so true and profound
I had a icky feeling after ressa tessa did her "who tf did I marry" and now making a X part long series became a trend and here's that white lady. You have podcast mam. Popular one a that. No need to piggy back of the trauma of a black lady.
I feel like the way she was brought up is valid.... But she was choosing post hateful and dehumanising statements online.... She was a racist
With all of me I believe people have the ability to change. What makes me disbelieve her in her ability to change is she doesn't acknowledge she was racist. She doesn't truly acknowledge the impact and importance of those actions
We also can't forget that there's a ton of White people who are accepting her apology and forgiving her (then tell the affected people that they're horrible people for not forgiving them) when they have no right to do so.
This reminds me of when Cr1tikal made a response video of iDubbz's apology saying that he shouldn't have apologized. Like, who asked you in the first place?!?!
Yup. And then even “leftists” will get angry at Kat for not accepting the apology or even reacting to Cr1tikal’s video were he claimed it wasn’t the racism that was bad it was being “cringe”
Ugh. When you're apologizing, pleeeeese don't talk about your feelings/intentions or attempt to explain where you're coming from. If you're doing that, then you're not sorry. I can't listen to that woman's apology video without wanting to interrupt and say, "Stop talking about yourself!" Unfortunately, so many apologies are like this. "I feel bad" is meaningless if you don't change.
So you'd rather have a PR polished apology instead? Do you even actually care about an apology, or is this just a power trip to you?
If someone isn't racist they do not need to say, "I'm not racist". It is obvious from their words and actions. No denial needed. Feeling the need to say, "I'm not racist" is a pretty good indication that you might be racist.
It is clear that racism was a true bonding exercise for her, her friends, and her family (this is also true for more white people than we talk about). We really don't talk about this being a major problem in the reproduction of whiteness and white supremacy.
Bonding exercise is a perfect way to describe it. Disturbing to say the least.
Sorry I'm only 1/3 of the way through the video and I am so not surprised how she's throwing her grandparents under the bus and using them as a scapegoat for her racist remarks and behavior. Gotta be somebody else's fault right? She had no choice apparently...Independent thought is not a thing in her household... gimme a break🙄
And if she were truly sorry about her past behavior and thinking, why didn't she address it herself rather than waiting for someone else to call her out on it? At this point she just doing damage control and trying not to hemorrhage money or any sponsorship deals she may have.
Honestly I’m at the point in my life where I’m tired of the phrase “I’m not racist”- we’ve all at some point in our lives said or done racist or biased things whether it be as white people to racial minorities, or as racial minorities to other minorities (stress on that- OTHER MINORITIES. “anti-white” racism doesn’t exist systemically) whether we meant to consciously or not. To think that we’re not or have never done, said, or thought something racist is frankly kind of silly.
I don’t mean this in a “we’re all racist, we shouldn’t even try!” kind of way. What I mean by this is that it is on all of us to unlearn racism, to learn the way racism affects different groups on a systemic level, and *listen*. It is on each of us to make an effort to work away from racist thought and be more conscious of our biases.
It’s an uncomfortable thought. No one wants to admit to being racist. It’s embarrassing! But I think we need to get comfortable with discomfort, because recognition of that is the first step. You *will* make mistakes. It’s your responsibility to recognize that, grow from it, learn from it, and not anyone else’s responsibility to forgive you for it along the way.
Brilliantly said. You are absolutely correct 👍🏽 ❤
With most apologies, I usually believe the person apologizing technically understands what they did was wrong, even if they’re trying to avoid accountability in any way. This is one where it seems like she actively believes the opposite of what she’s saying.
As for podcasts, I'm loving "A Bit Fruity" with Matt Bernstein (honestly you would make a perfect guest for that podcast 👀)
@@Purplefoxsoul i wish, cause i don't thinknhe's had a POC as a guest before
@@wanwan2180 huh that's true
I generally hate it when people brag about never liking the person anyway but, honestly, she's always given me bad vibes
Literally
Being buddies with Tana Mongeau was defs an indicator
I just don't know how one turns around fully from a mindset that says that murdering Black kids is fine. I used to listen to the podcast but I'm never afraid to find a new one. I clearly don't have the radar for racism and conservatism that Black creators do because I didn't see this coming but once it was here it made me fewl physically ill.
They don't see Black children as children. They see us as weirdly adultified. That's how Tamir Rice was murdered at age 12 whilst playing with a AirSoft toy gun. An officer identified him as being something like 22 (He was five-foot seven.) Officers off-scene kept asking if he was black or white about three to four times. Then they handcuffed his fourteen year old sister and shouted at his mother that if she didn't calm down they would arrest her.
george zimmerman was half peruvian in peruvian and when the peruvian community found out we were disgusted. idk how in touch he is with his peruvian roots but in Peru we have a large afro peruvian population. We love our afroperuvians and the culture. there is racism every where but we do not claim this man. a lot of people tried to justify that this man wasn’t racist he’s half latino, that doesn’t matter as i said latinos can be racist too.
I'm white and grew up in the UK. My school I went to was majority white, I think out of the 200 students in my year there was 2 black people. When I went to collage it was the first time I was around a lot of people of colour. My class at the time was about 50/50 white and asian and I made friends with the asian students and it did open my eyes. We didn't talk about racism specifically but I remember the first time talking to a friend he asked me what religion I thought he was assuming I would say muslim or hindu because he's asian.
I like to believe I'm anti racist but part of that to me is being open to the fact that I hold onto some racist beliefs that I've been socialised into believing and haven't been made aware off and am been blind to. There was one point when I was volunteering at a community centre and met a black guy that was involved in organising BLM actions and he gave me the cold shoulder, I was a little bit offended at the time but understanding that he doesn't know me and that BLM events make him vulnerable, so me being a random white person he's never met why should he be vulnerable around me, I hadn't earned his trust and proved I wasn't racist. I haven't been actively racist to anyone, I haven't harrased anyone over race even being from a rural majority white town and I'm trying to be better such as going out to counter protest against the anti asian race riots going on in the UK right now.
I hold myself to the standards of Cis allies on trans issues. If I haven't made a sacrifice to help then I can't be an ally and if I'm centering myself then I'm not an ally. What I do I tend to keep quiet about unless it's about giving a platform to someone more deserving
Honestly as a white person I never had a “racist phase” and grew up with decently progressive family and with parents who had friends from a variety of different backgrounds so I was exposed to a decent amount of different people fairly young. Obviously something isn’t going to always occur to us due to whiteness and etc but something that’s helped me learn to better accept criticism of “that phrase/statement/attitude/what have you is racist” is thinking of racism as an action rather than an immutable trait. It’s something you do and even the most well meaning white person can do racist actions. It’s a metaphor that’s worked for me and helped me deal with that stuff and this seemed like an appropriate comment section to share it in.
Yeah, that's why I don't trip. I've said or thought racist stuff bc I didn't grow up in a vacuum, it's not like emblazoned on my soul forever. Idk if this is an autism thing, maybe it's bc I'm not as dependent on proving myself to other ppl idk.
Some people won't even accept that grace if you force it on them though. This girl has been harassing me in my building for three MONTHS because I told her cripple is a slur at a WORK event I was LEADING and legally obligated to ask her not to say that. But bc I'm disabled she thinks this means I've branded her a bigot and am making crazy accusations. I've
extensively reassured her that it's not that serious to me (bc tbh it's not, my disability is severe enough that a rando's opinion is the last thing I have time to worry about, like for real get over yrself-- i DO get triggered about ableism like anti opioid hysteria but not shit like name calling lol) and i don't think she's a bigot etc etc but she will NOT let it go unless I retract my claim. I told her we're cool and let's just drop it and agree to disagree, she won't. She's trying to stir up sentiment against me, blasting me on the building message board, acting totally insane. It's genuinely at the level of disability based harassment at this point bc she has singled me out as a disabled person to give her the cripple pass and will not REST unless I give it to her.
@@SpecialBlanketyea thats crazy people cannot handle any ounce of accountability its crazy 😭. the fact u said u didnt take it personally and shes still so butthurt is just.. her ego must be very hurt that shes been called out on literally anything
See I don't buy the "she was young" excuse because I grew up with a racist grandmother, racist aunt and uncle, etc. I knew in elementary school that the things they said about black people weren't right. That it was ridiculous to bag your own groceries because the kid there with the cashier was black. That Rush Limbaugh sounded whiny and if I, age 8, acted like him I'd be punished for it.
It's not hard to look at these people and see how miserable they are and how uncomfortable they make the people around them. You either want to be like them or you don't. They assume every white (or white-ish) person thinks the way they do. You don't have to fall in line. You can just be quiet. That's what I did when I was young.
I'm white, British, middle class, male, high-functioning autism and only recently realized I was bisexual in adulthood (with supportive parents), so I have no experience suffering from systemic prejudice. Bullying? Yes. Bureaucratic incompetence? Yes. But prejudice? No. If it's not for you and others who speak so honestly about society, I'd probably take these "apologies" with far less than salt than I should. Redemption is nice, but redemption isn't something gift-wrapped in a striped box with a cute little bow, waiting to be opened with cheers and celebrations.
I’m black, British, middle class, been to private school my whole life only got diagnosed with ADHD and Autism in sixth form + first gen South African, with a professor and paeds sister for parents. I agree with everything you’ve said
Thank you for making this video.
I had tears in my eyes listening to the young lady share her experiences of being traumatized by the white ppl in her school. I think many black ppl carry that same trauma but we’re supposed to suppress it and continue to give more and more grace to the racists. I don’t have it in me to do that anymore.
I agree with so much that you said. She was constantly minimizing and distancing herself from her actions.
Those were the tweets and posts of a monster with no empathy.
Would Brooke's mother feel the same way about a "17 year old" if it was HER 17 year old kid that got murdered??? Nope.
I'm ngl i never understood the whole "I didn't know better argument," like i grew up in one of the statistically whitest places in America and I knew not to be racist, what happened with these people? (Granted, my folks were never conservative but by their the environmental factors still should've made racism normal, so it's interesting to me that they didn't)
I watched a couple episodes of Cancelled after the Clinton Kane drama, and while I can't remember what it was, they said something about politics that gave me pause. I don't think either of them takes it very seriously, possibly because they won't be as affected by the outcome as others will be. I definitely get the feeling that anything either says about being more progressive or less racist is just for the camera. Maybe they have changed since they were younger, but it's definitely not as big of a change as they want us to believe.
this video hits incredibly hard, I've told my darling white husband about the racist bullying and terror I was subject to growing up, its so incredibly traumatizing and all I want is for those who have perpetuated that kind of abuse to own it and take accountability !!!! thank you as always for coming at these topics in a level headed and thoughtful way when its so easy for people to get sucked up into the drama cycle ❤
and maybe this is lowkey selfish to ask on such a serious video but where did you get that wig?? you look sooo good I need 😂😭
I hope your husband took you seriously and took accountability
"i dont want to blame anybody"
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"its my grandparents fault, yall"
It annoys me so much that so many people dislike being called racist than they do actual racism. It hurts and is uncomfortable to be faced with the fact that your actions have caused harm, but it is in no way as bad as the harm that your actions have caused but we are so willing to cater towards white peoples tears that we are expected to just sit alongside their harm as they are more concerned with being called racist than the harm of their actions
At the end of the day, I just genuinely think most yt people don't actually care about racism. That's one of the reasons it's hard for me to have yt friends. At some point they say some ish that doesn't seem right with me, and I end up being the "bad guy" as you said for calling it out
Unfortunately, this is true, and these are the good ones. The bad ones want to send us back to Jim Crow.
So many of these inequities would be easily solved if the white people claim to be "good" actually give 5% of a damn about racism. Because even the "good ones" enjoy the comforts of white supremacy.
Why can't you just keep them be r@cist in peace. They don't mean anything by it. Don't make them feel bad how dare you 😢
This hits home for me on so many levels as a black creator. I had to step away from RUclips for years because so many yt ppl think it’s fun to be racist and troll and antagonize you. They don’t just say racist things, but do horrible things to black creators for literal entertainment but as soon as you as something about it, it’s flipped on you as playing the race card and you’re dogpiled. Also, a lot of platforms literally do nothing to stop this from happening.
No this situation was crazy because my friend and I had a poignant conversation about "cancel culture", the way society tends to forgive white people more easily, the importance of growth, our experiences dealing with racism, and more while watching a vid on what happened. We paused the vid to talk and were leaning towards giving Brooke grace until we finally continued the vid and learned about her "[b-slur] dip" comment and other things she was still doing. Like literal egg on my face, egg on my friends face, we were like "so much for trying to be nuanced n understanding" lmaooo
GOODNESS you look ESPECIALLY beautiful and radiant in this video!!!
Podcast suggestion: In the Dark.
It's true crime, but done by a team of real journalists. They are great storytellers who focus on a different crime each season, honing in on the systemic issues. And they aren't afraid to call a prosecutor racist!
Their findings from their second season were cited before the supreme court and helped save the life of Curtis Flowers, a black man who had been tried six times for a crime he clearly didn't commit, and sentenced to death. He is now a free man, in part due to their work.
True crime I wouldn't hate. I hate the profiling stuff, this is like reverse that. It remembers the innocent people and reminds folks of the few cautions taken that people start to resent. Like so many people think arrest means guilty
This video is exceptional. You have introduced new perspectives to consider, even as a black person. I hope others can take your points and really let them sink in.
Brings to mind Hulk Hogan when his racist tirade was exposed.
Whether his red eyed tearful apology was genuine or not is secondary, and I hate myself for not realizing why it didn't quite sit right with me.
Till I realized, he was sorry that people heard it, he was sorry he subjected his daughter to it (and all the while still insisting he wasn't racist)
But that whole N word laced meltdown was because he found out his daughter was dating a black guy. WHERE WAS THE APOLOGY TO HIM?
Along that same line, where is her apology to Trayvon Martin and his family?
If you willingly punch someone in the gut and then laugh at them while their on the ground in pain, you don’t make it right by turning around to the room and going "I'm sorry i supbjected you all to that" and ignore the direct victim of your violence.
His apology was he was sorry he was facing backlash. He hasn’t changed
Exactly.
Podcast suggestion : sad boyz, great content and seemingly great guys, as an adhd girl it scratches an itch
Oh I love that podcast, the stream of consciousness energy of it is a lot of fun
you brought up points that i’ve always thought about, but needed to hear for them to really hit me
thank you
Thank you for making this video. Black creators are who SHOULD be talking about this. The amount of ignorance in other videos is appalling. You continuously open my eyes to new perspectives. Keep up the good work!!
It’s somewhat similar to bullies growing out of it only to realize the people they bullied still have to live with it
Thank you, Kat!
- this was the first response to Brooke's behavior I've seen that calmed my social nausea.
you really put to words exactly how i felt about this situation. I'm south asian and i faced a lot of racism growing up in a majority white area. I believe people can grow and change. It's just so annoying that they get to grow and change from being racist while I had to face their cruelty and have to grow from that. That racism is just a mistake for them while it's extremely dehumanizing for me. and then people like brooke get to keep a monetized platform while the victims will probably never get a true direct apology.
Just to possibly correct something: at 9:07 when you talk about Brooke's mother and her saying Trayvon wasn't a child, I actually think it was Brooke that said that. It looks like her mum was quote tweeting (years ago replying to a tweet would be "your comment RT @Username and their quote"). Just that the RT bit was probably deleted by the mum due to character space.
Either way, doesn't excuse either of their comments.
I understand this is a serious subject but I’m hypnotized by your hair! Suits you sooooooo well omg
Wow, someone on a podcast called "Cancelled" is a bigot? Can't say I'm surprised 😂
Your skin is glowing!! 🎉🎉
I've seen the lifetime of this activity first hand. Had a friend since I was seven. He was white and we used to laugh at racism when it happened. He would defend me, I'd defend him, it felt like we were laughing at the world. Around ages 11-14 is when homie straight up slowly changed into the content he consumed and found funny. He found camaraderie with other "edgy" white kids. Well, we know where they end up mentally, they either adopt the perspective of that of which they cooperate with (white racial paranoia and supremacy), or they come around years later (im 22 now) and realize their faults. As a black queer person here in the south, I get that whole feeling like you need to assimilate and be tolerated, so you allow racism to occur to you and you kinda just freeze up. The sheer "how in the fuck do I even deal with this person, I'm 12 being expected to give grown adults a sociopolitical epiphany". As someone 22 that has stayed in Texas, they don't change. At least not enough in our life for us to be tolerated. I can't fix them. For self preservation I say we have to leave and be self serving or else we get swallowed. Something I've learned over the last four years is that if you don't choose your pain, it chooses you, so do as much as you can and work hard for YOU.
This is kind of irrelevant in the greater conversation, but Zimmerman didn't just auction off the gun, he started selling autographed bags of skittles.
Because that was the only thing that Trayvon Martin had in his pockets when he was murdered. By the guy now selling the skittles.
I'm actually more upset about the people buying it than the one piece of sh-t who should be rotting in a jail cell. (It's really hard to be anti-carceral when people like that exist lol)
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"the axe forgets, but the tree remembers"
20:59 I relate a lot with this woman's tiktok, growing up as an openly gay neurodivergent kid in a very conservative rural area. Though i've never experienced anything as extreme as what this lady went through; I was only threatened death once and that was for not standing for the pledge. I was harassed by some of the faculty for my beliefs, and periodically a group of boys would approach me and talk shit about how one of their friends has a crush on me, and they did this up until the week before our highschool graduation - and I've been dating my girlfriend for years at that point. Also a friend and I both got in trouble and was called into the office for pretending to be Santa in the girl's locker room, but I was the only one given a lecture about how 'it's different because you're a lesbian' while my friend's just twiddling her thumbs
"... and periodically a group of boys would approach me and talk shit about how one of their friends has a crush on me ..." Ugh, why is this a universal experience for us???
this was such an enlightening analysis, i'm glad i watched as always
Nice to see you again Kat!!🌸👍🏾