That may have been the best description of how a firearm fits in the hand that I have heard. She did a great job articulating exactly what I wanted to know regarding the difference between the S C, and the micro. Perfect.
That's exactly why I switched from the TP9SFX to the Mete SFX. Its soooooooo much easier to grip and have better control over. Can't wait to pick up this MC9
I had an SC and liked it a lot, but wasn't the best carry option for me. I now carry a Shield Plus and it's very comfortable, but the new micro has certainly got my attention. Thanks, guys.
The Shield Plus is fantastic. It's my EDC. I liked it better than all the other micros I've shot (sig, Springfield, Ruger, Taurus). And I shoot it fairly well, all things considered. I love it.
@@Chrishuncho-nb8un nah Glocks are 20 years beyond in pistol technology, and you have to replace everything on it to get to the point of where all other pistols are out of the box. The ergos are crap, and they are beyond ugly. Reliability and mags being cheap were it's only saving grace but in 2024 you practically have to go out of your way to buy unreliable guns, and magazines for guns over a year old are pretty much everywhere now.
I was really looking forward to picking up the new psa micro dagger but then the mete mc came out during shot show n totally change my plans . I think the 2 firearms I will definitely try n get this year will be the canik mc and Beretta A300 patrol
Wow. I thought the TP9 Elite SC would be better, starting with a 3.6" barrel, which I found more favorable regarding ballistics and accuracy than a 3" micro. I just don't like micro guns that much, but maybe the METE MC9 could win my heart. We'll see.
My friend has a mete full size and it’s very accurate. I love that gun and I own a Canik rival and it’s my favorite from my sigs, berettas, Springfield, etc. I’m waiting until I can get my hands on the rival S
The squareness of the "beaver tail" area is why I sold my Canik TP9 DA. Loved everything else about the gun but the corner dug into my hand while shooting. I'm anxious to handle the MC9 to see if it will fit my hand better.
I bought the Elite SC when it first came out. I have the older V2 model from years back and wanted something for conceal carry. I don't like the SC. It's not a bad gun but it just doesn't feel comfortable. I have big hands and it just wants to jump out of my grip every time I shoot it. I have since upgraded to a Steyr C9-A2 MF and I love it.
Very interesting comparison, both your observations are a great help, I own a TP9 SFX and a MC9 and was contemplating a TP9 Elite SC, now I'll stay with what I have
Hey man, I bought a SC, do you agree that the m9 fits better in hand? the SC isnt a uncomfortable firearm but as stated in the video (perfectly in my opinion) it just kind of feels like something i am holding.
I love when smaller/thinner guns make you happier than larger ones. Kind of like cheating when it comes to conceal carry. That was how I was with the original Shield. I was one of the few who liked the thin, oval grip and shot it almost as well as my full size M&P. Carrying the Shield Plus these days, but might have to check out this little Canik. Thanks for the review, take care.
Great video and content. I've been wanting to get the TP9 SC Elite for my first Canik, for a very long time. I've hesitated in purchasing it due to the short, blocked grip. I could only get a full grip on the gun using the extended magazine. And the grip circumference felt like a more boxed off version of a glock. I didn't like the idea of re-training myself to break my grip to do reloads for that gun. But i was willing to try. I know the MC9 will probably have the same problem of having a short grip. But I was hoping the new grip module design on the MC9 eliminated that blocky feel of the grip. Again, thanks for the great info
I’m nervous. My wife got me a Taurus GX4 a few years back for my birthday. But seeing all these reviews for this Mete MC9, I’m really debating on switching. I no lie never even heard of this until 4 days ago when a coworker was telling me about a different Canik pistol and when I got him I opened RUclips to be blown up by Canik videos. Undercover blessing.
You two do a great job with your videos I appreciate both of you doing your videos the way you do I really learn alot about each firearm watching you all thank you I think you two are the best 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I Carry an elite SC for my everyday carry .... Well I did before my wife stole it and she now carries in wich I can't complain about but with that said I will get her this one
This was VERY helpful! I was just looking at both these at Scheels locally and the Mete felt so much better in my hand then the TP9. This video helped with my decision to go with the Mete. Thx
I'm newer to Pistols I went with a Canik rival for my first one and got a shield plus performance center for carry. Im not sure it's what I want to keep or not. I haven't got to shoot a hellcat,p365, or caniks carry guns. My shield is the 4" barrel but weighs about the same idk if that's a real negative or positive yet. Ideally I could buy like 2 more but money is a thing lol. I got a pretty good deal on the shield plus performance center for $600 with an optic which is like $200-250 less than they try scamming people on lol. None of these comparable carry guns should realistically be a solid $500 and less after tax. There's just not much to them and it's not like top notch material
That was a great day at the range I'm sure. I've gone to the field many times to do the fine tuning only to come home with more questions. We hopefully have all done this( mag selections, grain decisions, etc) nice to see a fast and simple solution to a classic vs battle. However guns and accessories are like a Harry Potter short on wand selection, that all mods are only based on personal improvement on a certain day, with a certain round, in a certain mindset
Canik makes a really fine pistol especially when factoring in cost. I would love to see more pistols chambered in 40cal. Not 9mm converted to 40 but an actual gun made for the 40cal round.
@@jlm8246 Well in real world data from ballistic gel tests, the difference between 9mm and .40S&W is greater than the difference between .40S&W and 10mm. .40S&W also is on par with .45ACP in terminal effect while having more capacity, greater velocity, and cheaper ammo.
@@jlm8246 I think you should read more real world performance stats over the RUclips tactitards. People seem to forget that just as 9mm ammo tech has evolved so has 40cal and every other round. A true loaded 40cal outperforms and outweighs 9mm at the same time. Maybe outclassed is the better term thanks for the regurgitated info lol
How I would describe the shooting difference between a G26 and a G43. I do own the TP9 Elite SC and would compare the grip to a slightly bigger 26. Looking forward to the full release of the METE MC9.
I'm probably going to buy one as long as this trigger isn't under 4 pounds. I'm honestly worried that they put a hair trigger in this thing. I wish he would have tested the trigger weight.
cant wait to get my hands on one of the MC9s! i have owned the TP9 elite didnt really care for it that much and sold it but that MC9 seems alot better of a gun in my opinion!
I watched this and tabletop review (thank you!) and am waiting for the 'big' what's-for-dinner shooting breakdown for the MC9. So far you are first English review I have found - GREAT JOB! Was hoping you could confirm a couple things for me from the table top? On the official Canik website on the Product Listing page, it states that the MC9 uses 'Canik Sub-Compact Size Magazine'. You said the 12 rd SC mag with finger rest would NOT seat properly because of the baseplate? Do any of the SC mags seat? 12 round flat, 15 rd, 17 rd? Seems like a BIG problem if they don't. Also, +P ammo? My other Caniks say +P ammo is fine, weird that it does NOT say that in MC9 manual. I feel for a carry/defensive use gun, +P ammo is a MUST, especially out of a shorter barrel. More speed = more expansion. I have a SC with a smattering of 12, 15 and 17 round mags and was super happy to see that those mags would work in the MC9. (At least that is how I read the product listing.) I plan on getting a MC9 on release day or ASAP as long as they are at MSRP. I have a Hellcat OSP and a Tarus GX4 Toro already but plan to move to the Canik MC9 because....CANIK! I love the Caniks but they are chunky fat and I have small hands and prefer the grips of my micro 9s or my Arex Delta L. The MC9 seems like what I have been waiting for. At $400 MSRP with the Canik trigger and Optic Cut - it straight out embarrasses SO many of the other micro 9s! (I am looking at you $520 Ruger MAX-9 with your awful Hi-Point level trigger 'no +P ammo' and 'no dry fire' warnings in the manual!) Ruger should just quit trying to make semi-autos, but all others Micro 9s may need to drop prices by $130 JUST TO BE CLOSE to the better Canik. Hellcat trigger is barely ok, upgraded to APEX trigger, better but still not very good. GX-4 trigger pretty good, just has weak reset. I know the MC9 will be more the size of the Smith Shield Plus and Kimber Mako (another awful trigger) and the 365/Hellcat/GX4 will still be small size champ. Could maybe you give a size comparison to these others? I am very excited for the MC9 but the mag compatibility with the SC AND the +P ammo thing is kind of a bummer for me. I have been holster hunting already and I even have some more 17 round SC mags in a shopping cart... but....
Size comparisons in video are too easy to skew with camera angle of lens focal length. The only truly believable size comparison when you're looking at differences this small is to look at the numbers. As far as running +p ammunition I understand your feelings, but check out this test we did: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/defensive-pistol-barrel-length-ammo-selection depending on ammunition it may not be as necessary as you think.
Mag compatibility is a big deal. +P ammo is somewhat more of a fetish. Quality ammo (Federal HST for example) will perform more than adequately out of a short barrel. There may be a slight measurable difference between a +P and a standard pressure HST, but it would make zero difference to whatever threat it was being used on.
I just got the TP9SF Elite and the first day shooting it at the range, I heard someone say Canik and I had to talk to them! They had the Mete MC9, so we swapped, my shots were all within 2 inches on the first mag, I was able to shoot it intuitively.
Now waiting for the shooting impressions video. Apparently nobody else has an MC9 yet. 2 weeks until they hit the stores. I figured there would be a lot more channels doing videos on it by now. You guys must "know somebody". lol
We're trusted by several companies to be among the first to review something. Thanks to our print and web articles we also sometimes get stuff in weeks or months before it's public so we have a chance to get some time with it before they're announced.
I have these old Ky Farm hands and love the mete mc9 even with large back straps I just need more grip or structure!!! Love the MC 9 but will buy the Elite in stainless and Black
Great video and it does look like the MC9 had less recoil than the Elite SC and it might just be what she said in that she could get more of a grip on it. I don't have big hands so I shoot my Sig P320c, Sig P365, and Glock 42 really well and was actually surprised how well I shot the P365 after getting used to the P320c but I think it is just that, being able to really get a good hold on the smaller guns. I am really looking forward to checking out the Canik Mete MC9.
Never thought I would say this but canik is out walthering Walther lately. That says a lot from a die hard Walther fan like me. I’m trying to wait on Walther to do a new updated micro compact to compete with all these newer high capacity micro guns.
I was looking at these two at the shop and ended up picking up the sc because it looked concealable enough and I’m all for carrying the biggest you can COMFORTABLY. That said, I’ve carried a g2c for years and the sc seemed similar in size so it gives confidence. I should have at least picked up the mc9 and felt it since the capacity is literally the same.
@@GBGuns only briefly in a gun shop, but nothing like the original, SF, or SF Elite. Are the other two sizes of slides also lighter than their TP9 SF counterparts?
@@GBGuns damnit Graham! This channel is getting expensive. Thanks for the info. I was impressed with the Mete trigger an ergos, but I guess I wasn’t paying that much attention. I will definitely be taking another look.
fantastic but all i got was that one is for a girls hand (meaning they tend to have smaller and slimmer hands than guys) and the other is for a bigger manlier hands. BUT what about the guns themselves? pros n cons?
@@GBGuns I agree with you. I have a living Tp9 elite s weapon. I think it makes Turkish guns the best quality guns. In Turkey, glock 19 gen 4, gen 5 = 4,000-5,000 dollars. I'm telling the truth. Canik Tp9 elite 300 dollars in Turkey. People dream of glock in Turkey. That's a ridiculous price and fantasy. We love the Glock system safe action. It is unshakable and stoeger, but it is very poor quality in my opinion. I wish canik would produce safe action weapons.I want canık safe action,.
Never been a fan of that lower grip with the support hand. Mine sits pretty high and squeezes the crap outta the frame. That's what works for me as I seem to control the muzzle rise much better with a higher grip doing multiple shots in a row.
Graham, did you find the trigger weights to be discernably different in live fire versus the dry-fire during the tabletop video? I know you had mentioned it did feel a bit heavier of a pull. I cannot imagine that the feel is too drastically different and even if it was it did not seem to hinder either you or Teya's ability to shoot it better than the SC Elite. I am thoroughly impressed and even more intrigued by your commentary regarding the advanced ergonomics of the Mete. I have quite a few hours of range time with the SC as my range buddy has one that I shoot very often, however it is as Teya said a bit of a chubby and blocky rascal with a bit of somewhat cumbersome heft. Not that it is terrible but enough that it wasn't my first choice for carry.
As you know, I'm largely trigger-blind unless it's over 12 or under 3 pounds. When we filmed this demo I didn't feel one was particularly lighter or heavier than the other. We also shot a few other pistols that day and still it didn't stand out as too light or heavy for carry.
Does the mc have a lot of pre-travel before the wall? I noticed on a sc canik quite a bit of pre-travel, perhaps leading to the user slamming into the wall upsetting trigger control?
Yes, because I've been on a continuous journey of finding a carry gun that is right sized for my body to conceal well, that holds more rounds, And is pleasant enough to shoot that I would endure 1000 rds in four days with and I think this is it!
I have a METE SFT and I’m not gonna lie I don’t like how it grips, I’m a 6ft male but I don’t have the largest hands to maybe someone else may favor it but something feels weird about it, looks like I’m getting myself an mete MC9
According to Canik folks at SHOT Show, beginning of March. They are starting to have 'notify me when available' placeholders on some sites, the ass-hats at Impact guns has them as backorder but will 'let' you get on the list for $530!
@@mattlauck6521 Ass-hats is right. I will buy an MC9 ASAP, but $439 MSRP is the absolute highest I will pay. For $530 I know the perfect place they can holster it...
😂 well come on I already gave the humble marksman a hard time about the MC9 asking why I would need one and videos like this are not helping me pretend I don’t want it.
I put an extend barrel on my SC ( 4.2 treaded) as my pistol is used as a Woods Gun too. I have larger hands and Mirco Guns get lossed in my hands. The SC is perfect for me. I bought the METE SFT and for reason didn't like it. It is on consignment lol. My ( V2) can do everything the METE SFT can and at half the cost. I hope Canik doesn't get too gimmicky driven. Glock ( my EDC) has kept their pistol lines pretty simple an effective. Maybe the price of the SC's will dip with the New attention on the MC9. Might be a great time to pickup another SC at a cheaper price. Semper Fi
Does this ergonomic difference exist between the new METE and original TP9 series _in general_ or just for the MC9 specifically? Also, commenting on every MC9 video until Canik acknowledges me: We need an update to the TP9DA with these new features! I am _begging_ you. I would sell my soul for a METE DA with an Elite-length grip, 4" barrel, MC9 ergos/thickness, ambi controls, and optics cut.
I really appreciate it this previous review by the two of you and have since seen other reviews online talking about issues with the gun. I am now looking for your present opinion of if this is yet unacceptable micro compact as you folks previously indicated.
How much smaller does it actually feel though? On camera they look so similar. I’ve got the SC now but being a smaller person it’s harder to carry with most outfits. Was just going to get a 365, but being a Canik fanboy this goes to the top of the list
I love using Handgun Hero to check size comparisons! The Mete is the same size as the Ruger Max 9 where as the SC is about 1/2" shorter than the M&P Shield Plus 4" (I'm considering a swap because I loved my TP9 SF Elite but can't conceal that)
This insight does absolutely help. Thank You. I would have absolutely incorrectly assumed that the old but larger TP9SC would have been the better shooter. That's not something I think I would have picked up on at the counter. That's impressive they managed to make their smaller gun an even better shooter. I was also considering the Mete SF but it's a little too large for me to everyday carry I think. Anyway, thanks again for the comparison. I love the channel!
Thank you Graham. Been waiting for a side by side on these two 🙏🏻 can you throw the 15rd mete sf in there too if you have one? I’m looking for something smaller than my rival darkside
@@GBGuns am I crazy or just blind? Lol I don’t see it in the shooting impressions video. That’s the mc9 and the elite sc if I’m not mistaken, just like the video says, right? I was wondering about the mc9, vs the elite sc, vs the mete sf. Not the sft or sfx, I think the mete sf has a 4.1 or 4.2 inch barrel and a flush fit 15 round magazine. The elite sc has 15 round as well but it’s not flush with the grip.
@user-ev6ll2yq1b sorry, I misread your comment and thought you were asking about magazines. The METE SF is a full-size, that would be an apples and oranges comparison. The only reason we did the SC to MC is because a lot of people (myself included originally) think the MC is just a reboot of the SC when in reality there are quite a few differences.
@@GBGuns I understand, and I totally agree. The mc9 feels like a completely different gun in the hand and to shoot. I just have larger hands like yourself and I guess the a better question would’ve been, what would you prefer to carry on you, the Glock 19-ish sized mete sf, or the new mc9? Sorry for the confusion, my fault.
Both are good, l think the Mete is easier to conceal and still accurate despite having a smaller barrel. However the tp 9 c is feels more comfortable to shoot being a bit heavier. But both are great guns in my opinion you can’t go wrong with either.
Is the Mete Mc9 snappy or does that back-strap help with that? I’m really weighing between the two. Comfortability and concealment with the MC9. Or Smooth shooting but bulky grip and slight bulge with concealment… choices choices.
@Graham Baates ok, but I Think people considering this would have appreciated a more concrete evaluation... Hopefully, you do another video that gives us more feedback.
@Graham Baates I did see it. I guess I was expecting a little more of a detailed review. I am not knocking you. just giving what I feel is just constructive feedback...Thanks
Hello Graham ... love the Grand Power reviews. I’am getting ready to buy a fun range gun for accuracy shooting . Looking for best hammer fired 4.5 minimum but prefer 5 inches . Thinking about the GP Excalibur. Any better option ?. Needs to be hammer fired... unless you think in any new striker gun that would be a better choice than the hammer . Thanks, love the 45 GP Review... interesting !
Awesome ... Grand Power XCal in real good price now. Love those guns. Have been looking for long time for the K100 D ...to carry can’t find one . Will have to set for K 100 gen 2 or the K100 xtream ... is beautiful. Canik Rival cough my attention for the price and quality but already have WALTHER PDP 5 inches in that area and Springfield Elite 5.25 only non WALTHER gun for long range shoots that work for me . Thanks again for your immediate help and advice . Highly appreciated.
Mr. Graham, (please guide me) l’m new to your channel and already a big fan of yours. I hope you see my comment and reply to it because I have a quick question (or anyone that has experience with what I’m about to explain). So for a very long time I’ve been wanting to buy a gun for carry and home defense. I finally bought a house where I can put my future gun in a safe place. But I’ve been trying to get a lot of knowledge off of people on RUclips and friends. I finally have the full approval from my wife to purchase a gun this year 😂. One thing she did say is she wants to be able to shoot and carry this gun as well. Reason being because she works late at a hospital in downtown, where her shift can end at 11:30PM or 3AM or 7:30AM sometimes on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. There’s been numerous of times where she’s felt really unsafe on her walk to her car and has made me very worried as well. Some of those times even being escorted by 1 or 2 security’s. Because of special guidelines she would have to keep this gun in the car. This is where I have my question, she is a very petite woman and I don’t ever see her shooting a Glock or anything like that 🤣. Seeing how the lady handle this gun I was fully convinced that this could be a very good first time shooter gun for my wife. My only concern is, I’ve always debated if she should have a 9mm or a 22 as a first time shooter experience. Do you think this canik will be fine for a first time shooter? The 22 I’ve always wanted to get and think would be good for her to warm up in is a Smith & Wesson M&P compact 22. I’ve tried to ask this question about a 9mm or 22 for a first time shooter but no one ever reply’s. I would appreciate if you or anyone reading this could help me. Thank you
There are arguments on both sides of which caliber should be first. Regardless of what you get the important thing is to get you and her training. As far asguns to learn on, believe it or not bigger guns (of same caliber) are easier and more comfortable to shoot than smaller ones. Teya makes it look easy, but she's also had A LOT of professional training (see our bios on the channel "about" tab). If budget is a concern this may be your do-all gun, but generally small guns are a compromise in shootability in the name of being easier to conceal. A full answer is much longer than this, but I hope this gives you some direction.
@@GBGuns thank you so much. It really means a lot to me. Yes, it does help a lot. I will be considering going to a shooting range before making a final decision with her. Have a blessed day 🙏
I was pretty much set on the tp9 elite sc for my first handgun. Now you have me second guessing myself and leaning towards the Mete mc9 now...do you agree?
Interesting. I have an SC and medium sized hands and I would say it fits like a glove. Now I’m not saying the MC9 wouldn’t fit even better, but I think people need to be aware that of course RUclipsrs are going to say the next Gen feels better….even if it may be VERY similar or possibly not even better…. Just something to think about folks.
That's one of the reasons we have two shooters with two different hand sizes. In the tabletop video you can see closer up how the shape is different. It'll be great for some, maybe not for others.
Full Review and Specs: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/canik-mete-mc9-1
A comparison video between the TP9 SF Elite and its successor METE SF would be great.
@@poppinc8145 Results would be about the same as the upgrades of the METE line are universal across the line.
That may have been the best description of how a firearm fits in the hand that I have heard. She did a great job articulating exactly what I wanted to know regarding the difference between the S C, and the micro. Perfect.
Thank you
RUclipsrs said the same thing about the sigp365 and it ended up feeling like a small squirt gun 😂.
@@Shenmue06 thank you! That is exactly the description I need for my own 365 :-)
Its a woman
Agreed! Great analysis on them both. Definitely going to get a Mete.
That's exactly why I switched from the TP9SFX to the Mete SFX. Its soooooooo much easier to grip and have better control over. Can't wait to pick up this MC9
March 1st
I put a aluminum back strap on mine and stippled the grip a little more more and it made a world of difference and now I like my TP9SFX better.
On my list to get when it officially comes out.
Both pistols are available now.
@@carlhansen8672where at please?
@@carlhansen8672 The MC9 isn't released yet.
@carlhansen8672 the video that I saw from shot show said March 1st. Good to know. Thanks
@@carlhansen8672the MC9 isn’t.
I had an SC and liked it a lot, but wasn't the best carry option for me. I now carry a Shield Plus and it's very comfortable, but the new micro has certainly got my attention. Thanks, guys.
Try MC9 it is amazing. I used to have shield plus also but I couldn't shoot well but I love my mc9.
The Shield Plus is fantastic. It's my EDC. I liked it better than all the other micros I've shot (sig, Springfield, Ruger, Taurus). And I shoot it fairly well, all things considered. I love it.
@@srm158you said everything but Glock 😁😉get a Glock
@@Chrishuncho-nb8un nah Glocks are 20 years beyond in pistol technology, and you have to replace everything on it to get to the point of where all other pistols are out of the box. The ergos are crap, and they are beyond ugly. Reliability and mags being cheap were it's only saving grace but in 2024 you practically have to go out of your way to buy unreliable guns, and magazines for guns over a year old are pretty much everywhere now.
Wow I’m surprised! Can’t wait for your next video.
Thanks for taking time to make this comparison.
I was really looking forward to picking up the new psa micro dagger but then the mete mc came out during shot show n totally change my plans . I think the 2 firearms I will definitely try n get this year will be the canik mc and Beretta A300 patrol
Unfortunately, with PSA, we never know when the gun will actually come out and if it'll be in stock
@@GBGuns is there going to be a full shooting impressions video for mete mc ?
Yes, our Patrons have it now, we'll release it in an article, then to RUclips.
My wife carries the Elite SC for the last two years. It’s been perfect for her. We are both super interested in the MC.
I carry the Elite SC, and it’s an awesome pistol. Mine has the Shield SMS2 and it’s a tack driver. I can’t wait for the MC9
@@luckymanham302 my wife has the RMSC on hers. It is indeed a tack driver.
This is the perfect review. I’m up in the air and finally found a range that has both. Thanks!!
I like this side by side comparison.
Wow. I thought the TP9 Elite SC would be better, starting with a 3.6" barrel, which I found more favorable regarding ballistics and accuracy than a 3" micro. I just don't like micro guns that much, but maybe the METE MC9 could win my heart. We'll see.
We were really impressed.
@@GBGuns I noticed so.
My friend has a mete full size and it’s very accurate. I love that gun and I own a Canik rival and it’s my favorite from my sigs, berettas, Springfield, etc. I’m waiting until I can get my hands on the rival S
@@reekz8089 I own 6 different Canik models. I am a Canik-fanatik. I am not just too crazy about micro guns.
@Average GIJoe Outdoors that's another great choice 👌🏼
Definitely on my must get List.
The squareness of the "beaver tail" area is why I sold my Canik TP9 DA. Loved everything else about the gun but the corner dug into my hand while shooting. I'm anxious to handle the MC9 to see if it will fit my hand better.
You didn’t just file and sand it? Come on man
@@Rigatonispaghettiolywhat a dumb idea
You both are so wholesome. Im excited for more comparison tests of the MC9 vs P365 and Shield Plus.
I will absolutely be getting one of the two tone MC9 pistols when they’re available. I really enjoy shooting my TP9SF and Mete SFX.
Found The Mete MC9 was my favorite after going to shop and holding both!!! Ordered the FDE color!
Thx
I bought the Elite SC when it first came out. I have the older V2 model from years back and wanted something for conceal carry. I don't like the SC. It's not a bad gun but it just doesn't feel comfortable. I have big hands and it just wants to jump out of my grip every time I shoot it. I have since upgraded to a Steyr C9-A2 MF and I love it.
Very interesting comparison, both your observations are a great help, I own a TP9 SFX and a MC9 and was contemplating a TP9 Elite SC, now I'll stay with what I have
Hey man, I bought a SC, do you agree that the m9 fits better in hand? the SC isnt a uncomfortable firearm but as stated in the video (perfectly in my opinion) it just kind of feels like something i am holding.
I love when smaller/thinner guns make you happier than larger ones. Kind of like cheating when it comes to conceal carry. That was how I was with the original Shield. I was one of the few who liked the thin, oval grip and shot it almost as well as my full size M&P. Carrying the Shield Plus these days, but might have to check out this little Canik. Thanks for the review, take care.
I really like my TP9SFX. I really need to tryout one of these newer Caniks.
Fantastic comparison. I really like your informative review. Cudos ! Great job. I’m adding the MC9 to my collection.
Regardless of cost, this is high on my list. Great video
Thanks for the comparison of these two pistols.
Canik is the only way to go I hope they keep up the good work
Great video and content. I've been wanting to get the TP9 SC Elite for my first Canik, for a very long time. I've hesitated in purchasing it due to the short, blocked grip. I could only get a full grip on the gun using the extended magazine. And the grip circumference felt like a more boxed off version of a glock. I didn't like the idea of re-training myself to break my grip to do reloads for that gun. But i was willing to try. I know the MC9 will probably have the same problem of having a short grip. But I was hoping the new grip module design on the MC9 eliminated that blocky feel of the grip. Again, thanks for the great info
It's much less blocky and my XXL-glove hand fits with the pinky rest.
I find it amazing that given the size difference between the two of you. You had the same shooting experience. Excellent video
I’m nervous. My wife got me a Taurus GX4 a few years back for my birthday. But seeing all these reviews for this Mete MC9, I’m really debating on switching. I no lie never even heard of this until 4 days ago when a coworker was telling me about a different Canik pistol and when I got him I opened RUclips to be blown up by Canik videos. Undercover blessing.
You two do a great job with your videos I appreciate both of you doing your videos the way you do I really learn alot about each firearm watching you all thank you I think you two are the best 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you
Exactly what I was looking for as an owner of the SC
Our tabletop video of the MC9 also has a section showing you clearly the physical differences.
I Carry an elite SC for my everyday carry .... Well I did before my wife stole it and she now carries in wich I can't complain about but with that said I will get her this one
You'll want 2 😉
This was VERY helpful! I was just looking at both these at Scheels locally and the Mete felt so much better in my hand then the TP9. This video helped with my decision to go with the Mete. Thx
Thanks again for your great videos. My husband and I, enjoy your reviews. 😁
I'm newer to Pistols I went with a Canik rival for my first one and got a shield plus performance center for carry. Im not sure it's what I want to keep or not. I haven't got to shoot a hellcat,p365, or caniks carry guns. My shield is the 4" barrel but weighs about the same idk if that's a real negative or positive yet. Ideally I could buy like 2 more but money is a thing lol. I got a pretty good deal on the shield plus performance center for $600 with an optic which is like $200-250 less than they try scamming people on lol. None of these comparable carry guns should realistically be a solid $500 and less after tax. There's just not much to them and it's not like top notch material
Looking forward to getting my MC9 more than before thank you
That was a great day at the range I'm sure. I've gone to the field many times to do the fine tuning only to come home with more questions. We hopefully have all done this( mag selections, grain decisions, etc) nice to see a fast and simple solution to a classic vs battle. However guns and accessories are like a Harry Potter short on wand selection, that all mods are only based on personal improvement on a certain day, with a certain round, in a certain mindset
Canik makes a really fine pistol especially when factoring in cost. I would love to see more pistols chambered in 40cal. Not 9mm converted to 40 but an actual gun made for the 40cal round.
Why? 40 is heavier, more expensive to shot and not any more effective than a 9 mm.
@@jlm8246 Well in real world data from ballistic gel tests, the difference between 9mm and .40S&W is greater than the difference between .40S&W and 10mm. .40S&W also is on par with .45ACP in terminal effect while having more capacity, greater velocity, and cheaper ammo.
@@jlm8246 I think you should read more real world performance stats over the RUclips tactitards. People seem to forget that just as 9mm ammo tech has evolved so has 40cal and every other round. A true loaded 40cal outperforms and outweighs 9mm at the same time. Maybe outclassed is the better term thanks for the regurgitated info lol
How I would describe the shooting difference between a G26 and a G43. I do own the TP9 Elite SC and would compare the grip to a slightly bigger 26. Looking forward to the full release of the METE MC9.
I'm probably going to buy one as long as this trigger isn't under 4 pounds. I'm honestly worried that they put a hair trigger in this thing. I wish he would have tested the trigger weight.
cant wait to get my hands on one of the MC9s! i have owned the TP9 elite didnt really care for it that much and sold it but that MC9 seems alot better of a gun in my opinion!
I got a sc and it shoots very well never had a issue
I watched this and tabletop review (thank you!) and am waiting for the 'big' what's-for-dinner shooting breakdown for the MC9.
So far you are first English review I have found - GREAT JOB!
Was hoping you could confirm a couple things for me from the table top?
On the official Canik website on the Product Listing page, it states that the MC9 uses 'Canik Sub-Compact Size Magazine'.
You said the 12 rd SC mag with finger rest would NOT seat properly because of the baseplate?
Do any of the SC mags seat?
12 round flat, 15 rd, 17 rd?
Seems like a BIG problem if they don't.
Also, +P ammo? My other Caniks say +P ammo is fine, weird that it does NOT say that in MC9 manual.
I feel for a carry/defensive use gun, +P ammo is a MUST, especially out of a shorter barrel. More speed = more expansion.
I have a SC with a smattering of 12, 15 and 17 round mags and was super happy to see that those mags would work in the MC9.
(At least that is how I read the product listing.)
I plan on getting a MC9 on release day or ASAP as long as they are at MSRP.
I have a Hellcat OSP and a Tarus GX4 Toro already but plan to move to the Canik MC9 because....CANIK!
I love the Caniks but they are chunky fat and I have small hands and prefer the grips of my micro 9s or my Arex Delta L.
The MC9 seems like what I have been waiting for.
At $400 MSRP with the Canik trigger and Optic Cut - it straight out embarrasses SO many of the other micro 9s!
(I am looking at you $520 Ruger MAX-9 with your awful Hi-Point level trigger 'no +P ammo' and 'no dry fire' warnings in the manual!)
Ruger should just quit trying to make semi-autos, but all others Micro 9s may need to drop prices by $130 JUST TO BE CLOSE to the better Canik.
Hellcat trigger is barely ok, upgraded to APEX trigger, better but still not very good.
GX-4 trigger pretty good, just has weak reset.
I know the MC9 will be more the size of the Smith Shield Plus and Kimber Mako (another awful trigger) and the 365/Hellcat/GX4 will still be small size champ.
Could maybe you give a size comparison to these others?
I am very excited for the MC9 but the mag compatibility with the SC AND the +P ammo thing is kind of a bummer for me.
I have been holster hunting already and I even have some more 17 round SC mags in a shopping cart... but....
Size comparisons in video are too easy to skew with camera angle of lens focal length. The only truly believable size comparison when you're looking at differences this small is to look at the numbers. As far as running +p ammunition I understand your feelings, but check out this test we did: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/defensive-pistol-barrel-length-ammo-selection depending on ammunition it may not be as necessary as you think.
Mag compatibility is a big deal. +P ammo is somewhat more of a fetish. Quality ammo (Federal HST for example) will perform more than adequately out of a short barrel. There may be a slight measurable difference between a +P and a standard pressure HST, but it would make zero difference to whatever threat it was being used on.
Thank you for the detailed response, I will look into the info you posted and will check it out.
I appreciate your insight on the matter.
I just got the TP9SF Elite and the first day shooting it at the range, I heard someone say Canik and I had to talk to them! They had the Mete MC9, so we swapped, my shots were all within 2 inches on the first mag, I was able to shoot it intuitively.
Now waiting for the shooting impressions video. Apparently nobody else has an MC9 yet. 2 weeks until they hit the stores. I figured there would be a lot more channels doing videos on it by now. You guys must "know somebody". lol
We're trusted by several companies to be among the first to review something. Thanks to our print and web articles we also sometimes get stuff in weeks or months before it's public so we have a chance to get some time with it before they're announced.
Great comparison video. It never gets old.
Just got the elite sc about month ago now wish I waited guess this will be next on the list when it drops
bro i said the SAME THING ...
I got my elite sc in early jan then days later they announced the this MC9 ... i was a bit upset as well.
@@ACommenterOnRUclips yea I wish I knew ahead of time. But 2 is better than 1.
I have these old Ky Farm hands and love the mete mc9 even with large back straps I just need more grip or structure!!! Love the MC 9 but will buy the Elite in stainless and Black
Great video and it does look like the MC9 had less recoil than the Elite SC and it might just be what she said in that she could get more of a grip on it. I don't have big hands so I shoot my Sig P320c, Sig P365, and Glock 42 really well and was actually surprised how well I shot the P365 after getting used to the P320c but I think it is just that, being able to really get a good hold on the smaller guns. I am really looking forward to checking out the Canik Mete MC9.
I think it's a better hand fitment permitting better recoil control.
@@GBGuns Gotcha, thanks. Pretty sure I will be picking one of these up as soon as I can find one next month.
Thanks
Do you do this just to attract more viewers to your channel ? 😂
simple for CCW , MC9 for the range or home defesne, get the TP9 SA or SF elite.
Never thought I would say this but canik is out walthering Walther lately. That says a lot from a die hard Walther fan like me. I’m trying to wait on Walther to do a new updated micro compact to compete with all these newer high capacity micro guns.
You guys just helped me make a decision between the 2… thanks
I was looking at these two at the shop and ended up picking up the sc because it looked concealable enough and I’m all for carrying the biggest you can COMFORTABLY. That said, I’ve carried a g2c for years and the sc seemed similar in size so it gives confidence. I should have at least picked up the mc9 and felt it since the capacity is literally the same.
Want to compare canik mc9 vs hellcat
Good to know for men with small framed partners👍🏻
I have always liked caniks but thought they were heavy in the wrong areas. Maybe I’ll need to look at the MC9.
Have you experienced any of the METE line?
@@GBGuns only briefly in a gun shop, but nothing like the original, SF, or SF Elite. Are the other two sizes of slides also lighter than their TP9 SF counterparts?
@@twrol yes, a lot changed with the METE line.
@@GBGuns damnit Graham! This channel is getting expensive. Thanks for the info. I was impressed with the Mete trigger an ergos, but I guess I wasn’t paying that much attention. I will definitely be taking another look.
fantastic but all i got was that one is for a girls hand (meaning they tend to have smaller and slimmer hands than guys) and the other is for a bigger manlier hands. BUT what about the guns themselves? pros n cons?
Top notch as always
Thank you.
I think I said on the last video but I'll say it again. Canik MC9 is a day one buy. Its got a whole lot going for it.
We found some available now, check the pinned comment.
I have the MC9 I do like the gun its just my problem with it is the grip. I need a little larger grip
Very informative review and surprising results.
March 1st!! Such a great deal and gun.
Very interesting video.. Seemed to please you both with the differences they have made ..👍👍
Yes, we were very impressed.
interesting that the lighter and smaller gun works better for both of your hand sizes
We think it's because the MC9 has a more ergonomic shape.
Hi thanks for video,, I from turkey,, what is your favorite series CANİK Or STOEGER? THANK YOU,
We've only tried two Stoeger guns, but I think Canik makes a nicer firearm.
@@GBGuns I agree with you. I have a living Tp9 elite s weapon. I think it makes Turkish guns the best quality guns. In Turkey, glock 19 gen 4, gen 5 = 4,000-5,000 dollars. I'm telling the truth. Canik Tp9 elite 300 dollars in Turkey. People dream of glock in Turkey. That's a ridiculous price and fantasy. We love the Glock system safe action. It is unshakable and stoeger, but it is very poor quality in my opinion. I wish canik would produce safe action weapons.I want canık safe action,.
Never been a fan of that lower grip with the support hand. Mine sits pretty high and squeezes the crap outta the frame. That's what works for me as I seem to control the muzzle rise much better with a higher grip doing multiple shots in a row.
I Love Both but appreciate Her thoughts!!!
Graham, did you find the trigger weights to be discernably different in live fire versus the dry-fire during the tabletop video? I know you had mentioned it did feel a bit heavier of a pull. I cannot imagine that the feel is too drastically different and even if it was it did not seem to hinder either you or Teya's ability to shoot it better than the SC Elite. I am thoroughly impressed and even more intrigued by your commentary regarding the advanced ergonomics of the Mete. I have quite a few hours of range time with the SC as my range buddy has one that I shoot very often, however it is as Teya said a bit of a chubby and blocky rascal with a bit of somewhat cumbersome heft. Not that it is terrible but enough that it wasn't my first choice for carry.
As you know, I'm largely trigger-blind unless it's over 12 or under 3 pounds. When we filmed this demo I didn't feel one was particularly lighter or heavier than the other. We also shot a few other pistols that day and still it didn't stand out as too light or heavy for carry.
Can’t wait to get my hands on that mc9
Have you try WALTHER PDP pro ?
the tp9 elite sc is super top heavy.
looking forward to the mete mc9
Does the mc have a lot of pre-travel before the wall? I noticed on a sc canik quite a bit of pre-travel, perhaps leading to the user slamming into the wall upsetting trigger control?
Check our the "Trigger Talk" segment of our Tabletop video.
Teya, this gun makes you a little giddy! Pretty sure that's a good sign!☺️
I noticed that as well. She had a very interesting reaction to it...
Yes, because I've been on a continuous journey of finding a carry gun that is right sized for my body to conceal well, that holds more rounds, And is pleasant enough to shoot that I would endure 1000 rds in four days with and I think this is it!
@@ms_freemant I hear ya! I'm hoping this will take over as my carry gun also!
I have a METE SFT and I’m not gonna lie I don’t like how it grips, I’m a 6ft male but I don’t have the largest hands to maybe someone else may favor it but something feels weird about it, looks like I’m getting myself an mete MC9
Great content! May I ask what ammo you were running?
I believe by this point we were using Freedom Munitions 115gr.
When is the MC9 hitting the market?
Not soon enough!
According to Canik folks at SHOT Show, beginning of March.
They are starting to have 'notify me when available' placeholders on some sites, the ass-hats at Impact guns has them as backorder but will 'let' you get on the list for $530!
@@mattlauck6521 Ass-hats is right. I will buy an MC9 ASAP, but $439 MSRP is the absolute highest I will pay. For $530 I know the perfect place they can holster it...
😂 well come on I already gave the humble marksman a hard time about the MC9 asking why I would need one and videos like this are not helping me pretend I don’t want it.
I put an extend barrel on my SC ( 4.2 treaded) as my pistol is used as a Woods Gun too. I have larger hands and Mirco Guns get lossed in my hands. The SC is perfect for me. I bought the METE SFT and for reason didn't like it. It is on consignment lol.
My ( V2) can do everything the METE SFT can and at half the cost.
I hope Canik doesn't get too gimmicky driven. Glock ( my EDC) has kept their pistol lines pretty simple an effective.
Maybe the price of the SC's will dip with the New attention on the MC9. Might be a great time to pickup another SC at a cheaper price.
Semper Fi
Does this ergonomic difference exist between the new METE and original TP9 series _in general_ or just for the MC9 specifically?
Also, commenting on every MC9 video until Canik acknowledges me: We need an update to the TP9DA with these new features! I am _begging_ you. I would sell my soul for a METE DA with an Elite-length grip, 4" barrel, MC9 ergos/thickness, ambi controls, and optics cut.
I outlined some of the changes with the METE line in this video: ruclips.net/video/NLhQKQCLiMQ/видео.html and even more in the METE SFX Video.
I really appreciate it this previous review by the two of you and have since seen other reviews online talking about issues with the gun. I am now looking for your present opinion of if this is yet unacceptable micro compact as you folks previously indicated.
Teya carries one if that counts. She's run it through courses and aside from a magazine issue the gun was flawless
@@GBGuns the MC9, correct?
@@murrayjimm yes
How much smaller does it actually feel though? On camera they look so similar. I’ve got the SC now but being a smaller person it’s harder to carry with most outfits. Was just going to get a 365, but being a Canik fanboy this goes to the top of the list
The newer shape from the METE line really fits the hand better, more naturally. On paper it's not a lot smaller, but in the hand it fits better.
@@GBGuns awesome I think I’ll probably just buy both 😂
@Todd Matheson really your smallest options for the Canik in comparison to the XL is the TP9 SC Elite. I love it but it is a tad on the heavy side.
I love using Handgun Hero to check size comparisons! The Mete is the same size as the Ruger Max 9 where as the SC is about 1/2" shorter than the M&P Shield Plus 4" (I'm considering a swap because I loved my TP9 SF Elite but can't conceal that)
This insight does absolutely help. Thank You. I would have absolutely incorrectly assumed that the old but larger TP9SC would have been the better shooter. That's not something I think I would have picked up on at the counter. That's impressive they managed to make their smaller gun an even better shooter. I was also considering the Mete SF but it's a little too large for me to everyday carry I think. Anyway, thanks again for the comparison. I love the channel!
Thank you. I think the trick that makes the MC9 perform better for us is in the ergonomics. The METE line really stepped up.
Thank you Graham. Been waiting for a side by side on these two 🙏🏻 can you throw the 15rd mete sf in there too if you have one? I’m looking for something smaller than my rival darkside
We did in the Shooting Impressions video.
@@GBGuns ok thank you, I’ll look for that video
@@GBGuns am I crazy or just blind? Lol I don’t see it in the shooting impressions video. That’s the mc9 and the elite sc if I’m not mistaken, just like the video says, right? I was wondering about the mc9, vs the elite sc, vs the mete sf. Not the sft or sfx, I think the mete sf has a 4.1 or 4.2 inch barrel and a flush fit 15 round magazine. The elite sc has 15 round as well but it’s not flush with the grip.
@user-ev6ll2yq1b sorry, I misread your comment and thought you were asking about magazines. The METE SF is a full-size, that would be an apples and oranges comparison. The only reason we did the SC to MC is because a lot of people (myself included originally) think the MC is just a reboot of the SC when in reality there are quite a few differences.
@@GBGuns I understand, and I totally agree. The mc9 feels like a completely different gun in the hand and to shoot. I just have larger hands like yourself and I guess the a better question would’ve been, what would you prefer to carry on you, the Glock 19-ish sized mete sf, or the new mc9? Sorry for the confusion, my fault.
Both are good, l think the Mete is easier to conceal and still accurate despite having a smaller barrel.
However the tp 9 c is feels more comfortable to shoot being a bit heavier.
But both are great guns in my opinion you can’t go wrong with either.
Great review
Thank you, this is just a short clip, the full review will be out soon
Is the Mete Mc9 snappy or does that back-strap help with that? I’m really weighing between the two. Comfortability and concealment with the MC9. Or Smooth shooting but bulky grip and slight bulge with concealment… choices choices.
I like the mc9, I have both. My tp9 is like the size of a glock 19. The mc9 is the perfect size for me
Height of the MC9 is 4.52". Any idea what the height is with the 15rd mag??
Would have liked too know how it compares to others in The category such as the hellcat, 365 glock 43X as far as felt recoil and shootability.. .etc
We don't do comparisons across brands, but comment on that in the Shooting Impressions video.
@Graham Baates ok, but I Think people considering this would have appreciated a more concrete evaluation... Hopefully, you do another video that gives us more feedback.
@@scottstinger6548 did you miss the pre-roll?
@Graham Baates I did see it. I guess I was expecting a little more of a detailed review. I am not knocking you. just giving what I feel is just constructive feedback...Thanks
No offense taken. This isn't the review, this is an excerpt from the review.
Hello Graham ... love the Grand Power reviews. I’am getting ready to buy a fun range gun for accuracy shooting . Looking for best hammer fired 4.5 minimum but prefer 5 inches . Thinking about the GP Excalibur. Any better option ?. Needs to be hammer fired... unless you think in any new striker gun that would be a better choice than the hammer . Thanks, love the 45 GP Review... interesting !
For range fun long-slide the XCal is hard to beat. Canik Rival is a good option for striker-fired
Awesome ... Grand Power XCal in real good price now. Love those guns. Have been looking for long time for the K100 D ...to carry can’t find one . Will have to set for K 100 gen 2 or the K100 xtream ... is beautiful. Canik Rival cough my attention for the price and quality but already have WALTHER PDP 5 inches in that area and Springfield Elite 5.25 only non WALTHER gun for long range shoots that work for me . Thanks again for your immediate help and advice . Highly appreciated.
Thanks for making this video!
thanks..
Türk silahlarını tanıttığınız için çok teşekkür ederiz. Sar 9 sc incelemesini de yaparmısınız rica etsem.
Is the MC9 good enough to say it would be like a 1.5 stack PPS?
Got 3k rounds through a mete sfx.... dying to try this! Love the sfx btw!
So I Loved the elite SC!! So Guessing the MeteMC9 is more compact like my G3c or Gx4?? Help me here
I guess thstmakes for a good comparison. Slightly smaller, but also more contoured.
Mr. Graham, (please guide me)
l’m new to your channel and already a big fan of yours. I hope you see my comment and reply to it because I have a quick question (or anyone that has experience with what I’m about to explain).
So for a very long time I’ve been wanting to buy a gun for carry and home defense. I finally bought a house where I can put my future gun in a safe place. But I’ve been trying to get a lot of knowledge off of people on RUclips and friends. I finally have the full approval from my wife to purchase a gun this year 😂. One thing she did say is she wants to be able to shoot and carry this gun as well. Reason being because she works late at a hospital in downtown, where her shift can end at 11:30PM or 3AM or 7:30AM sometimes on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. There’s been numerous of times where she’s felt really unsafe on her walk to her car and has made me very worried as well. Some of those times even being escorted by 1 or 2 security’s. Because of special guidelines she would have to keep this gun in the car.
This is where I have my question, she is a very petite woman and I don’t ever see her shooting a Glock or anything like that 🤣. Seeing how the lady handle this gun I was fully convinced that this could be a very good first time shooter gun for my wife. My only concern is, I’ve always debated if she should have a 9mm or a 22 as a first time shooter experience. Do you think this canik will be fine for a first time shooter? The 22 I’ve always wanted to get and think would be good for her to warm up in is a Smith & Wesson M&P compact 22.
I’ve tried to ask this question about a 9mm or 22 for a first time shooter but no one ever reply’s. I would appreciate if you or anyone reading this could help me.
Thank you
There are arguments on both sides of which caliber should be first. Regardless of what you get the important thing is to get you and her training. As far asguns to learn on, believe it or not bigger guns (of same caliber) are easier and more comfortable to shoot than smaller ones. Teya makes it look easy, but she's also had A LOT of professional training (see our bios on the channel "about" tab). If budget is a concern this may be your do-all gun, but generally small guns are a compromise in shootability in the name of being easier to conceal. A full answer is much longer than this, but I hope this gives you some direction.
@@GBGuns thank you so much. It really means a lot to me. Yes, it does help a lot. I will be considering going to a shooting range before making a final decision with her. Have a blessed day 🙏
Did she try the different back straps on the elite sc?
I was pretty much set on the tp9 elite sc for my first handgun. Now you have me second guessing myself and leaning towards the Mete mc9 now...do you agree?
They're both great guns, I think it comes down to personal preference and hand fitment.
Geeze man, I thought y’all were gonna say that it was too snappy and not worth getting.😂
We honestly expected it to be snappy
@@GBGunsThe review was positive. I was kind of hoping for it to be a let down but yeah, Canik’s getting my 💸.
So dose anyone know if the METE MC9 will fit in the TP9 Elite TP9 holsters?
Interesting. I have an SC and medium sized hands and I would say it fits like a glove. Now I’m not saying the MC9 wouldn’t fit even better, but I think people need to be aware that of course RUclipsrs are going to say the next Gen feels better….even if it may be VERY similar or possibly not even better…. Just something to think about folks.
That's one of the reasons we have two shooters with two different hand sizes. In the tabletop video you can see closer up how the shape is different. It'll be great for some, maybe not for others.