I just bought a D4 days ago with only 9000 actions! 2 bateries, charger, manuals etc all in it's original box. I also have a D810. The thing is i'm really happy because just like you said, it gives an awesome file. I paid only a $1000, i mean this is a new camera from 2012 in 2023 but still kicking asses!
The d700, D3, D4 cameras are built so well! With good glass, they are killer!! I wish Nikon made current stuff like them with all button layouts included!!!
Righ ton! I pwn all these cameras and just brought a D200 CCD camera. Built like a tank like the others. I have a D850 but use these older Nikons more frequently. Not interested in the Z system. Great deals now on DSLR gear. The D4 I purchased had only a 914 shutter count and was pristine! It was a great deal.
In my opinion the...D3s is still a great camera in 2021! If they don't think it's good enough for weddings, it's not the camera but the newly married couple who needs an upgrade. I've also purchased a D4 and it's a beautiful monster (too). Everything about the D3s and D4 is great. Interesting video, and totally agree, the upgrades are not worth the price, in most cases. It's much better to learn everything about the camera you've already got. And, it sure does fit like a glove, to me as well. Both the D3s and the D4.
Jesse Newell that is one hell of a jump. I owned a Nikon D80 back in 2008....since then I have owned a Nikon D700, D3s and now I have a D4. All cameras are amazing. D80 is a cropped sensor, all the others are full frame, so be prepared for more expensive glass.
Hi I bought my D4 in 2012 and I'm still in love with it :) I'm not a professional so I don't use it as much as one but it's remains in perfect condition and functioning. I totally agree with you. Thanks for this video and have a very good day.
I just got the D4s a few weeks ago and love the general rendition of the pictures. I also own a D850 and in terms of results the D4s are kind of more natural, better balanced.
@@PunjabiGymBeats Sorry, I didn't get this notification. If it's your one and only camera, I'd get the D850. If it's a second camera option, and you've got a higher resolution tool, the D4s.
I just traded my Z6 for the D4 tank wow. My D4 has 3,127 actuations and not a single scratch. Traded my z lenses and now have 150-600mm 5-6.3, 17-35mm f2.8-4 and a 70-200mm 2.8 on the way. I can’t be happier with this set up wow. Thank you for your information. Just subscribed. Thank you
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@@Stoney-Lawson no I don’t have the D4 anymore. I have Z6ii with S 70-200 2.8; 105 macro 2.8 S lens; 24-70 F4; Nikon 200-500 f5.6 having a blast with it. I do will be looking into the Z9 or D5 or D6 soon
I have to say having both the D4 and D4s the "minor" differences are major from how I've used it. The D4s has the AF mode of Group and the AF is overall noticeably better (a LOT better). Also the low light is noticeably better too. The paper to paper comparison of the two doesn't do the difference justice. That being said I still love my D4 and it is a top performer to this day.
I started my pro by getting a D3x then got a D4 and a week ago got a D5. Love all 3 cameras and look after them like my babies. Must admit the D4 is solid and does hold a special place in my collection.
I have a D4 and I live it. I recently sold my D500 primarily because of I felt the D500 was more difficult to maintain steadiness. I don't miss the D500 and the D4 creates better photos.
Hi Eric. This is a very useful video for those looking at buying older Nikon flagship cameras like the D4, D4s, etc. I have a Nikon D810 and very pleased with its overall performance and IQ. I am wondering what would be your views when comparing the D810 with D4s/D4 purely on the basis of IQ?
I appreciated the overview and your logic. I've been a Canon shooter since the original digital rebel. Recently picked up a nikon D700 and I love shooting it. I will add the D4 to my wish list.
Finally someone who talks about the picture and colors.. that's the way you should look at a picture... I own the d700 has little shutter lag and also like the colors it gives me ...love it
Even in 2024, the D4 and D4s are amazing choices for Landcsapes. It’s not all about megapixels. You can find them So cheap now too. Thanks for commenting!
Just purchased D4s today, 2022, terrific camera and waited some time for one to come onto the market that was low shutter and mint condition. Have D3 and a couple D800/ D850. All good tools to have in the box.
This one of my fave videos cos I just love the old Nikon pro bodies. It's late August 2019 and I'm currently in love with the D3X . I've been using one for the last 6 months and it replaced my D700 for studio portraits and events (in good light). The D3X needs slightly more careful processing to control contrast but the output is awesome. I will eventually get a D4 but I imagine it will take another year of mirrorless releases and hype until used D4's hit my price point.
It's time already. I got mine 20 days ago after going through classifieds for a year! I got it for $1150, With 55000 clicks and in mint condition. I feel very lucky to finally get my hands on it. Get it before they're gone forever.
@@wolfgangaigner You did the right thing. It's so good I'm becoming obsessed about this camera! Interestingly I too had a D700, and a D3 before. But I sold them and bought a D3x before I eventually switched to D4 (I can't afford multiple cameras). If you are curious to know, the D3x was mostly disappointing, unless used under controlled lighting.
@@nostalium Luckily for me I mainly shoot studio portraits with Elinchrom strobes so the D3X suits me extremely well. I now have a D810 too and the D3X is NOT shamed by it in the studio. I briefly had a D4s (which was great) but I decided that was too much money tied up in one body.
Great! No mirrorless for me as well. Don't need the banding, heating and inflated prices. It's that hand that rocks the craddle, not the craddle itself. Kind regards.
Just came across this as I have gone back to shooting sports photography along with weddings with my D700 (I have used this for weddings for 9 years and it is fantastic.) However it is a little slow and does not have the buffer capacity to shoot action sports like football (soccer to you guys,) rugby, etc. Good to hear that it still gets such good comments in comparison to higher spec cameras. As most of my sport pics will be printed in newspapers I would be shooting at Jpeg medium even for heavy cropping. I shoot sports at these settings on the D700 and up to 5000 iso, I can happily crop into half the frame with very little noise. High ISO performance is important to me as I can't afford to splash out £10,000 on a 400mm f2.8 and instead shoot with the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 zoom so the ability to go up to 12,800 means I can keep high shutter speeds even with low light and f5.6.
I've also been shooting with a D700 for years now and the only possible REAL upgrade I see on the market is the D4/D4s. In my opinion, no other low resolution Nikon digital body is really worth investing some money if you already own a D700.
hi, im a "beginning" photographer (i started with a pocket camera at age 11 and now im 20 but i shoot nature for fun) and ive never really understood the point of the d5/4/3, etc when not being used for wildlife or sports. people buy those cameras for portraits, weddings, street, landscapes. why? why not buying a d700/750 that can pretty much do the same in those scenarios? just for the build quality? because i personally dont need 10fps for weddings, street, and landscapes. im not asking this to judge, but honestly to understand if im missing something. anyway, thank you for the video, was very informative.
I had the same thoughts until I started working for a company that shoots events and weddings. Autofocus is crucial there and you need a reliable camera with big battery.
I moved from the D3 to the D4 about five months ago, and with limited time with the D4 I am super satisfied with the move. I didn't do it for the extra Mega Pixels. I made the move to get better ergonomics and low light use. I wanted a DSLR vs a sub par AF on the first gen Z mirrorless bodies. And the S lenses are freaking outrageous right now, so hard pass for Nikon Mirrorless on my budget. D500 Colors go wonky at 6400 ISO and get worst from there up. That to me was a vote for Full Frame since I shoot low light indoor events where color in the picture is a bid deal. If I need a good outdoor large field sports DSLR, the D500 would be first in line over the rest. D4s is still super expensive for the marginal bump in specs. I get it if you shoot sports, you want the best and D4s maybe better AF wise, but for the price to me the D4 was a bargain. D5 I have seen a lot of folks moving to it then moving right on to Mirrorless. I think the D5 improves on the D4/D4s. But sacrifices build quality that Pros demand. So for me in the future I may pass on the D5 after seeing it's the least favorite Pro DSLR in Nikons line up. D6 seems like a great DSLR, but the price for it is still very high. With the Z9 now out for over a year, maybe the price comes down here soon, but I don't see a lot of folks jumping into a D6. Great video, and I second your observations. I plan to keep my D4 till it dies. Just flat out a great camera, makes you want to just hold it and admire the way it fits in your hand. Crazy to think a camera would have such a great feel even at the weight that the D4 is. Still cannot believe I own one finally.
D4 vs d850 today? What would you suggest? I shoot sports and travel primarily. I understand the superiorities of 850 but how would it hold up for sports in terms of AF and buffer?
Hi Eric, first off, thank you so much for making that video and for answering all my questions. You did a great job amigo, and I really enjoyed your vid. I gotta say, you've got that D4 camera for a pretty good/excellent deal! (money-wise) good on ya mate!! I'm right there with you when it comes to the Nikon D750. When it came out, I read a lot about it but when I tried it, I felt like something was missing. I didn't buy it and that was a good thing. I bought an used D600 from a friend of mine and I really like it, but in low light situations I don't find it very good. the AF isn't as fast as I wanna it to be. It's really true what you say about not paying too much attention to how cameras look on paper, it's all about how you feel about a camera, why you need that particular camera and/or what you're planning to do with it. I think it's like hiring someone, you really need to see the person in real life before offering her/him the job, because all candidates look like a perfect fit for the job on paper, but they're not in real life. Somehow, as you know, the D500 has been a controversial camera for many people and it's good to know that in low light situations, yes, the D500 could beat the D4 but like you said; by a hair. Also, I don't know if you agree on this but once you've tried a full frame camera, it's kind of hard to go back and start using a crop sensor camera, right? Hahahaha, Thanks for being honest about the D5! I know I have asked you before about the D810 successor, but I'm kind of falling in love with the D4/D4s. I have used nikon/canon flagship cameras a few years ago but I have never tried the Nikon D4, however, I still remember the feeling of holding a flagship camera in my hands. it's just something else. Anyway, Thanks again Eric for the vid and have a nice weekend with the family! Jesús.
It was my pleasure to make the video as always and I am glad it helped you! And yes, I definitely agree about the D750. As for using a full frame sensor and then going to cropped, that is a tough question because each have their own advantages. However, it would be tough on me to go with a cropped sensor as a main camera because all of my pro lenses were purchased with a 35mm sensor focal length in mind. Thanks for watching as always! -Eric
I was blown away by all the retaining details in my D4 pictures when doing retouching in Capture One 10. And yes, I would not change for a D5 nor an "S" model.
So I've been shooting with the D4 since slightly after it's release. I've been looking into the D5, D500, and D750 to use with the D4 as a second camera to replace my older bodies (D3, D7000, D2x, D2h, D1x, D100, D70ir, and SLR/n) and be able to do high ISO for concerts. My problem with the D4 is that I can't get the auto-focusing to work well at all. It's fine at f/8+, but at f/1.4, f/1.8, f/2.8 the focusing is so miss miss miss. I try the af-fine tuning, but the 24-70 at different focal lengths and distances, it sucks. The only lenses that I get to work well (and by well I mean amazing) are the 35mm f/1.8 DX, 14-24 f/2.8 and the 105mm f/2.8 VR. My 85mm f/1.4D, 70-200 f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8, sigma 24mm f/1.4 and others focus just terribly. All these lenses on my other cameras (besides the D7000 which seems to focus as badly as the D4) work just awesome. I sent it into get the AF adjusted and it didn't get any better. Anyone else?
The D4 is much better at focusing in low light than the D3s, but the noise performance is not that difference between the two. Thanks for watching! -Eric
I have both, the D4 and D4s as well as the D3 and D3s and found the focusing switch from on the camera (3 settings) vs internal switching modes are terrible in very low light. I have lost more shots with the D4 and D4s, I have not had this problem with the D3 and D3s. I am experienced documentary photographer. My work around this problem is to shoot 3 frames and am likely to get one. Or, switch cameras, now taking 6 images to get one. I can't figure out which focusing mode to shoot just two people standing side by side to get them both in focus. I have used the 28mm 1.4, 24-70mm 2.8, 14-24mm 2.8. Help!
Use the Nikon D5 and go back with the Nikon D4. Have now two Nikon D4. 16MP is more than enough for me. The Nikon D6 is the worst camera i use. The best are the D3, D3s, D4 and the D4s.
I own(ed) a D810 and found it lacked any kind of AF speed using continuous shooting for aircraft and sports shots, so now own an immaculate low shutter D4 after seeing this video, the D4 for sports and action is still light years ahead of the D810
Nice video, thanks a lot. What do you think about the Nikon D4S? I actually can get one here with just 20k clicks in great condition at roughly 2000 Euro.
20.9 MP on a crop sensor is equal to a 47MP on a full frame sensor - think of it as if you had a 47MP sensor cut into a cropped sensor. This is why the 16MP of you D4 are more 'spread out' on your sensor and as a result of it the sensor is 'less pixels populated' therefore it has a better capability of gathering light than it would on a 47 MP full frame sensor (or 20.9 MP on the crop sensor mounted on the D500). Re ISO and clean images, if you have nearly 3 times the pixel population on the sensor you need to multiply your noise times 3 when you look at your D500 files - hence the noise. The noise 'per se' is almost identical, but having 1/3 of the pixels you have 1/3 of the visible noise that you'd see on the D500 - if that makes sense. You're absolutely right about the D810 - it's an amazing camera even today! The IQ is stunning and these 36MP the 'sweet spot' in my opinion. So you would also recommend the D4s quality-wise if the D4 weren't to be available?
D4 aquired low shutter count for a low price ,a stunning camera in every respect 16mpx is just fine for me ,the weight and bulk is not an issue ,images are great and easy to handle on the PC and storage is not a problem , a D3 is next on my list
Just got a D4s with 75’000 clics for 650 chf (650 $) the files are great but the raw files need some work especially with the WB (always to warm) I love the ergonomics !
I also love these cameras but am now moving forward. (2) D4 for sale with low actuations and all original packaging. Switched to the D850's and D500's. They fit my style of shooting better. Comment here if interested.
Hello Finding Middle Earth.. Great video. Always enjoyed @ your videos. If you dont mind me asking.. After looking at your video and others, I'm seriously considering now a used / pre-owned D4 for sports, action, low light photography. Where is a reputable, good place to buy a used D4 ? Thanks again for the help.
I have been using a d4 professionally for the last 4 years to shoot motocross, last week i purchased a d500 after all the hype and reviews. One week later im about to return the d500 as i have been very disappointed with it, image quality is JUST NOT even nearly as good as the d4 in any situation, yes the d500 is a step up from the d300 (i have one as well) but its a backward step if going from a d4 to a d500. I found in great light the d500 can produce some good images but as soon as the light is less than great the image quality falls off and the keeper rate is low, when i say less than great im talking dull flat light type winters day outdoors, the image quality then dives when shooting fast action sports and im only talking iso1000 1/1250 this is directly compared to what my d4 does in the same conditions when it would sill produce very good quality images. Its possible i have a duff body but ive used it a lot in the last 7 days shooting what i normally shoot with my d4 for a living and im very disappointed with the overall results even after trying just about every setting and adjustment there is on it. Today i will be returning the d500 and buying a second d4. Ill sum up by saying in pretty much any situation i would have to work in, i would be confident a d4 would get the job done for me and produce the images, if i was using the d500 i would be in trouble, but then the a few years ago d4 was a £5000 pro body and the d500 is currently a much cheaper prosumer body that will work great if your happy to shoot when it suits you in great conditions, and not when you just have to shoot no matter what...
I agree with all your conclusions. I own two D4 bodies. I have made 24" x 36" poster sized prints with this. The prints have zero pixels visible. Its great! I don't know what size of print you need to force the limitations of the sensor to become visible but those were the biggest prints I ever had made and that's as big as I would ever need. In my opinion, if a photographer needs to crop so much out of an image that pixels become evident, I may suggest getting closer to the subject or investing in come more powerful telephoto glass! Otherwise those 16MP are just fine for most applications!
GREAT video of your thoughts, and thank you! Perfect info. I've been thinking recently about adding a D4(s) or D5 to my arsenal for specific uses, and this nails it for me! Cheers!
Hi Joe, if I see a spot on my sensor, I always try to get it out first by using the rocket blower with the camera on mirror lock up, but if I cannot get it out, I take it to a professional Nikon certified tech that cleans it for me. I am fortunate enough to live only 20 minutes from a Nikon authorized service center :-)
It seems a crop sensor has an advantage for wildlife. You have to carry a lot heavier glass to get the same reach. I have 2- D800s. I know the 810 is a little better but not enough better to upgrade. I just got a D500. I am not so sure at 6400 ISO that the D500 is really better . The D500 goes higher than the D800 goes but at 6400 the D800 seems cleaner to me but I haven't tested it extensively like you guys do
I’m a big fan of my D3 in 2022 … if I’m looking to upgrade, I’m thinking Leica SL. Personally, if I’m leaving F mount … I’m really leaving for a whole new system for very specific advantages
I noticed in this video you use the drobo drives for backup storage. If you do not mind, what is your opinion of the drobo storage device? Are there any regrets or other storage devices you would have preferred purchasing?
Hi, Thanks for reaching out. I did a lot of research before deciding on Drobo, and what really made me pull the trigger with Drobo was that any other option in the same price range didn't have the same features as Drobo. The Drobo software is amazing for managing my storage, health of my drives, and notifies me by email and text when one of my drives is within 100GB of filling up. Also, Drobo's customer support is second to none. The only other option I was deciding on after all of my research was the Promise Pegasus servers. I'm sure they are great as well, but I just had a feeling about going with Drobo. Good luck and thanks for watching! -Eric
Good morning. I really liked your video, informing you about the user experience of the Nikon d4s camera. Please allow me to ask you a question: Can the Nikon D4s use a CF Express Type B card, instead of an XQD card? Is there an updated firmware that allows the use of the CF Express Type B card on the Nikon D4s? Thanks.
Wow D850 nice. That's on my super long wish list. Are you worry that you “might” miss the D4 again and buy it for the 3rd time? Hahaha or maybe you can do a video on why you have decided to let go the D4? Can you give some suggestion on lens to married with the D4 body for its fast focus and high FPS? Shooting mainly - Portrait and some sport and action photography, would also like to have a nice lens for the Low lights environment. Love your videos and Thank you for your time much appreciated
Now, 5 years later, the D4 is still my main gun - together with a Z6. I don´t see any reason for an upgrade to a D5 or D6, because i renewed the shutter and the rubbers last year for just € 600,- and hopefully it does her job for the next couple of years . Sometimes, when i´m filming concerts and i film with both bodies, even my D3 cames back of retirement and does the photography-part - up to ISO 3.200 without any problems and up to ISO 6.400 with some tweaks in Lightroom.
Buy it even now if it has low shutter count. Flagships are flagships no matter how old. Some of my colleagues still work with d3... if you don't need it for video that much go for it.
What should one expect to pay for a D4 in “mint” condition as you have described yours. Is that the body only? What base lens should you consider getting for landscape photography for a D4?
@@wolfgangaigner Hey Pat, the new VR one actually has much worse optical quality than the first version. It suffers from worse chromatic aberration as well. It’s heavier and the VR doesn’t even work as good as the OIS on Fuji’s standard 18-55 kit lens. Hope that helped :-)
Ok I am looking to invest no I am not a pro photographer I shoot my daughter at the gym and competitions I have been looking at the D500 for indoor sports All-Star Cheer but looking at this video now I am confused ?????? I know that I need the 10fps and I also know I need a good low light and focusing camera the D500 has 153 focusing points however I don't need all that because on the stage the most a team has is 30 cheer leaders now how is the coverage in the view finder? So what is the difference between the D4/D4s? and the buffering?
Greetings Eric, What would you consider as a good second/backup body? I currently own a D4s and considering a second body. I am considering a D500 or a D4s. I shoot low light sports (Boxing, Football, basketball, swimming, Gymnastics, etc.) and dance theatre. I also shoot landscape and street portraits. I am seeking various opinions and why. Thanks for the informative video.
Hi, thanks for watching the video! Hmm, this is a tough question because you shoot so many different genres. So, it looks like you shoot a lot of low light events with some landscape and street portraits mixed in. I am assuming that sports and low light events is what brings you the most full time money, in which case I would advise you to look at the D500 as a second body. The reason I would recommend the D500 is because the low light AF ability of that camera is spot on amazing. Also, I think it would be a great complimentary body to your D4s because you would have a cropped sensor body for extra reach on your pro lenses instead of having to use teleconverters on your D4s which would decrease your light by a stop or two. The D500 would also be cheaper than getting another D4s. The only way I would suggest for you to get another D4s for your second body would be if you are what I call a "Wide/Long" shooter. What I mean is if you always carry two bodies mounted on yourself at once, one with a wide lens and one with your long lens. With that setup, it would probably be more beneficial for you to have both cameras be full frame so that your focal lengths are exactly what you want them to be. Also, it's easier during dual camera scenarios to have the cameras be identical so that your buttons and settings are in the same exact spot for quick working while you're on location shooting your paid events. Keep in mind, this was all based on my assumption that most of what you do is sports and low light events. Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum... If you shoot equal landscape with sports and portraits, you might actually want to consider a D810 or the D850 if it actually comes out this September. I'm sure you know why I am suggesting this. The D810 has incredible image quality, incredible shadow detail, the best dynamic range I have seen from a DSLR, and of course the megapixels to make all of your portraits and landscapes jump off the bloody screen. It's a rockin camera. It's just all about which genre you shoot most and where your financial priority is at. I hope that helped :-). -Eric
Thank you for such a detailed response. Your points are very valid every scenario. I have previously used a D7000 for a second body for sports which has not been good in low light. In addition, you nailed my reason for the second body because it is for Wide/Long. However a D500 would prevent the use of a teleconverter for more reach with my 300mm F2.8 VRII. However, I can always crop in the body of a D4s. Again, thanks much.
It's my pleasure! I am always more than happy to chat about photography :-). It sounds like you might want to give the D500 a shot then so that you don't have to use the teleconverter. Good luck! -Eric
hi, great video, .... If we have to choose between D3s & D4s ? .... don't know why but somehow i am leaning towards D3s more, .... isn't it better of the two ? ... i would like to think so, but wanted to know your thoughts. Thanks.
Hello, if you have the budget, then I would go with the D4s because it is a better camera than the D3s in every way. However, if you're only going to use it for events and weddings with no printing or landscape work, you might want to save some money and go with a D3s or D4 because they're all great in low light. The biggest thing you will gain from the D4 and D4s is the light up buttons, better dynamic range, more resolution, and better shadow detail. Thanks and good luck! -Eric
thanks a great deal for the answer i was looking for. It really helped, as i searched extensively, but couldn't find the right reply before today. Sorry i forgot to say that i do street photography. I don't print large size. The D3s was the appealing to me due to its most rugged built quality ever found on any Dslr to date (build to last forever), even superior to its successor D4 or D4s. Also, i saw last month, the most accurate review on the net, comparing D3s to D4 & D3 ..... which says that D3s is the best of the lot. I'm sure you must have seen it too. fstoppers.com/gear/nikon-d4-vs-d3s-d3-and-d7000-d3s-wins-updated-6245 Also, Thanks for clearing the misconceptions about D500 as it was touted to be the next big thing.
D4 is terrific.....have 2 of them with a D850. D4 saves lots of shots that would be junk with other cameras. D850 is pretty wicked tho. Just cannot make mistakes....it's a very tough camera to get spot on. Noise on a D4 is acceptable FOR PRINTING large prints all the way to 6400 as long as it's exposed correctly the first time....make prints to 11 x 14.
I got a d4 with 8,400 shutter actuations, coming from a sony a7rii which has the latest firmware and still locks down the e-shutter curtain and bad battery. I moved to nikon again.
Hey, what do you think of the Nikon D6 compared to these Cameras you showed? Is it worth the money to ugrade or is it not a necessary Camera like the D5?
I do mostly portraits and city photography...I am thinking the D850 might be better for me....am I wrong? I dont do sports at all. I dont think I need the buffer speed this provides. My only other option is a Z6. Someone recommended this D4 but Don't know.
I’m discovering the same of my old pair D3S, D300S & wanting a D810 but then D850 came out. I went for it instead & held off on D500 now. But I’m loving the D4S even compared to D850 in those low light clarity u spoke of. So amazing still & even if u want the soft texture of film it’s beautiful at 12,800 easy indoor w/ gently fill flash
I have a d610 as a main camera with a d3200 as a second camera as an intermediate photographer I've been thinking of getting a d4 or d4s to make my main camera as I'm getting more and more work for portraits and smaller events. Would you still recommend the d4 over the d4s in 2017? Is it still worth a buy over the newer d4s? Thanks
Hi Vicente, I would definitely still recommend the D4 in 2017. A lot of event shooters are still shooting with even the D3s. If you can find a D4s for a good deal now that the D5 is out, you will love the D4s as well because the focus acquisition will be a little faster than the D4, but the D4 is still amazing. If you want to see a video I made where I shot all the photos with the D4 is extreme low light, check it out here: ruclips.net/video/l7O-B8fiY-Q/видео.html
I shoot mainly portraiture and weddings. I currently shoot the D700 and I am trying to decide whether to add the D4 or D4s, I can't decide if the minor upgrades are worth an extra thousand dollars or not.
Hi Claire, I have shot with the D700 which is still a good camera, however, buying the D4 for weddings specifically is well worth the upgrade due to the insane low light autofocus capability. It's also easily 2 stops better with noise reduction. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching! -Eric
I don’t see a reason to upgrade unless you’re having trouble focusing. To be honest my D7000 still focuses pretty good at weddings. Colors have more pop than my D3 unless I put D3 in vivid mode.
I use to own the D7000, wasn't impressed with it, as it is well documented that model suffered from focusing problems. I haven't owned the D3, but have the D3s and I can tell you from experience it out shines the D7000 colors which I found to be rather muddy, and my D3s blasts the D7000 in both sharpness and in dynamic range. I traded the D7000 up to a D7100 and what a difference; much better performance. However Full Frame cameras always beat any DX in dynamic range; that's not a opinion that is fact. Small sensors in DX always fall short of bigger sensor in FX.
I don't know if I agree with FME's reasons to take the D4 over the D700. First off the D700 is not a good camera.... it is a OUTSTANDING CAMERA!! The real reason you should consider a camera like the D4 over the D700 is one.... 2 card slots versus 1 for the D700. If in the unlikelihood should card failure happen in the D4, you would have your second card with all the files safe from the shoot. In the D700 case... disaster, you lost the whole shoot and someone's memories and... wave goodbye to your reputation, not to mention a probable lawsuit. Card failure is rare, but it happens. Secondly any of the flag ship pro models can be adjusted on the fly without digging into the menu. Pro's generally don't like pop up flashes being accidently hit and killing a shot Faster shutter counts will make sure you nail the sweet spots and capture the moment. Also noteworthy a camera like the D4 will balance those longer and heavier lenses better than the smaller D700, building confidence and lessening fatigue. And lastly and extremely noteworthy is... the cool factor of using such a camera.
thank god! someone that tells his personal reasons between the cameras by experience vs bullshit specs, this is the reason why Ive held on to my D700 all these years, so a true upgrade to me would also be a d4 or d4s..
You got it! The D700 is still a great camera and so many still use it. Others just look at the year it came out and assume it's a crappy camera. Thanks for watching! -Eric
Hey Eric. Thanks for the video. Since you mentioned you don't mind questions for video suggestions... I would be interested in seeing an update on your feisol tripod and ballhead . Are they working out? Would you recommend them? I need to buy a tripod and ballhead - Im just getting into landscape photography. The setup you have seems very nice. I was also looking at feisols next step down - the CT-3442 for legs and the CB-50dc for ballhead. I was thinking it might save weight if I go for extended hikes into the wilderness. But would I be giving up stability? Any thoughts?
Hi David, thanks for reaching out. I would be glad to do a video on that for you. It's no easy task choosing a tripod so I feel your pain. It took me years to finally settle on this Feisol setup. I will do my best to work on the video this weekend for you. Thanks so much for watching! -Eric
Very informative and engaging presentation. Thanks much for that. Just wondering if you are still using your D4 to this day. I am sure that system will continue to run effortlessly.
hi....i wanted to know about the green tint color on d4 screen as i have read on forums and seen on another video . What's your opinion if you noticed and i wish to know what could be the solution.
I have owned two Nikon D4 cameras and have never had any problems with green tints on the screen. The best solution I can give is to take it to a Nikon authorized repair center and have them replace the display. Typically costs around $450 US dollars. Thanks for watching! -Eric
Just found your channel. Getting back into photography after a couple decades. Last camera was a D300. It’s 2023 in less than a month. I’m looking at D780 D850 D4 and D810. My prints will never be over 30” and not much sports shots but some. Portrait and landscape. Video eh just icing. Which of these would you choose if you could only have one ?
Welcome back to photography! I actually took a break from RUclips to fall in love with it again without social media distraction. If you’re going with full frame Nikon, I’d 100% go with the D850. It has the best at all those cameras you mentioned. However, if you’re willing to try something new, take a look at the Fujifilm system. The 40mp XH2 is amazing and if you want medium format, they have options for that too in the price range of the D850. I shoot on Fujifilm now and love it.
@@FindingMiddleEarth Thank you. Just watched your D850 review. I used to shoot F100 with slide film exclusively. You can’t beat film !!!!! I will buy the D850. Thank you !!
@@FindingMiddleEarth Well after researching further. I have a D4s very low shutter count 27xxx on the way. Post processing on D850 would just be more than needed. To high pixel count. I’m stoked
It is everything about the camera put together but, when you talk about pixels, it is the pixel pitch. That is a major factor in what makes the pro bodies pro.
Hello. I just wanted to ask your opinion and by the way it was a nice review. If I can get a used D4s, would that be okay as per your opinion? You mentioned that the differences are minute, but since it's a matter of personal preference, would it be a good choice if the opportunity arose? Would really appreciate your opinion.
Hello Jose, thanks for reaching. In order for me to give you an honest and accurate opinion, I would like to ask a couple of questions. Is photography your full time career or just a fun hobby? What type of photography do you shoot? Also, do you shoot often in bad weather conditions? Thanks for watching! -Eric
Hi! Thanks for reaching out man! First of all I'm not a professional, but I've been shooting since my teenage years (I'll be 60 in October) but I do enjoy quality products. I've never had a Nikon before; I've owned Olympus OM 4t, Canon F-1, Canon T-90 and my jump to digital was a the old Canon EOS 7D and now I have a Sony A77m2. Shooting with the old film cameras was basically shooting full frame and I've been watching Canon and Nikon cameras for years. I love to shoot street photography, landscapes, architecture and portraits. Living here in tropical Puerto Rico you have lots of scenic views to choose from. I'm still thinking of making the jump to full frame and when I saw your reasons I thought: "this guy really knows what he's talking about". I've seen the D4, D4s on Ebay and wanted to know your opinion. Oh yes.. I sometimes shoot in rainy weather. Thanks again buddy!
You are perfectly right this is marketing and that's all. We sell perfect new machines for a brand new with same specs it's insane! You have a new follower.
How do the files and ISO performance of this camera compare to the X T2? Could you maybe make a video about it? Cause this camera has a lot to offer even now.
Hi Proper, no mirrorless camera can beat the D4 at ISO. If you specifically looking for a low light beast, go with the D4 or D4s. The X-T2 looks really good at high ISO, but the D4 is almost flawless. It's all about what genre you shoot. Thanks! -Eric
It only makes sense it'd be cleaner at ISO values. Larger format *and* fewer megapixels. If the X T2 could compete at all with that it'd be an act of voodoo.
I wish that cameras that were good for birding and wild life were also good for what things like the X T2 is. x.x All it would take, really is for Fuji to *finally* make a 300mm f2.8 but nope. What do you use the Nikon D4 fo and what do you use the X T2 for?
I have a D850 but I'm strongly tempted to acquire a D4s in good conditions (pro body...). I know it sounds crazy, but I'd like to hear about your opinion. Thanks
Eric, Last night I listened to your video about why you bought the Nikon D4. And after the video I ventured onto Ebay to check out the D4's and to my surprise I found a new D4 for only $2500. So now I'm a proud owner of a D4. I've been saving my money to buy the D850 or the D4s, but this camera is even cheaper than a D850. So now I owe you big time, maybe I should buy you a new SUV BMW. Well at least we can say the Marks family loves their D4's. I'm also a "Marks". Cheers
Thanks. This was an awesome video and your facts on the D5 are accurate. I too feel the D5 is not worth the price. I do own a d810. Just got a mint D4 with less than 7000 shutter clicks.
I'm also torn between a 2400euro D500 or a 4500euro D4s both brand new. With this price difference would you still pick the D4s Eric? I also like the bigger batteries in the D4s who would give you a lot more shots.
Hello Ricardo, this is a tough decision because it really depends on what you're going to use it for. Do you shoot mainly sports and action photos or do you shoot a little bit of everything? If you shoot any landscapes or nature, I would say to save your money and wait a couple of months for Nikon to release the successor to the D810 and Photokina in September. If you shoot 100% sports and action as your career then I would try to find a good priced D4s since it has better build, better weather sealing, and longer battery like you said. Thanks for watching! -Eric
I use an 850 love it just ordered a D4- gonna whack my 300mm f4 and tc 1.4 on it hopefully the less pixels will negated by the longer reach and cleaner iso. wish my luck
I just bought a D4 days ago with only 9000 actions! 2 bateries, charger, manuals etc all in it's original box. I also have a D810. The thing is i'm really happy because just like you said, it gives an awesome file. I paid only a $1000, i mean this is a new camera from 2012 in 2023 but still kicking asses!
I love my D4, best all around camera you can buy for $700 lightly used in 2024.
The d700, D3, D4 cameras are built so well! With good glass, they are killer!! I wish Nikon made current stuff like them with all button layouts included!!!
Righ ton! I pwn all these cameras and just brought a D200 CCD camera. Built like a tank like the others. I have a D850 but use these older Nikons more frequently. Not interested in the Z system. Great deals now on DSLR gear. The D4 I purchased had only a 914 shutter count and was pristine! It was a great deal.
In my opinion the...D3s is still a great camera in 2021! If they don't think it's good enough for weddings, it's not the camera but the newly married couple who needs an upgrade. I've also purchased a D4 and it's a beautiful monster (too). Everything about the D3s and D4 is great. Interesting video, and totally agree, the upgrades are not worth the price, in most cases. It's much better to learn everything about the camera you've already got. And, it sure does fit like a glove, to me as well. Both the D3s and the D4.
The Nikon D3s is a great camera. Use now the Nikon D4.
My new to me D4 is on its way with about 100K actuations. I am so excited. Going from a D80.
Jesse Newell that is one hell of a jump. I owned a Nikon D80 back in 2008....since then I have owned a Nikon D700, D3s and now I have a D4. All cameras are amazing. D80 is a cropped sensor, all the others are full frame, so be prepared for more expensive glass.
We can shake hands.
wow tha is a jump!!!
Nikon D4 is amazing camera. I when from
D1, to D300 then d3 & d3s
That huge jump is the hell. It´s like from analog to digital DSLR and ways bigger, than from a D4 to a D6 ;-)
Hi
I bought my D4 in 2012 and I'm still in love with it :)
I'm not a professional so I don't use it as much as one but it's remains in perfect condition and functioning.
I totally agree with you.
Thanks for this video and have a very good day.
I just got the D4s a few weeks ago and love the general rendition of the pictures. I also own a D850 and in terms of results the D4s are kind of more natural, better balanced.
Which one you recommend.? thinking to buy D4s, D850 file size issue.
@@PunjabiGymBeats Sorry, I didn't get this notification. If it's your one and only camera, I'd get the D850. If it's a second camera option, and you've got a higher resolution tool, the D4s.
I just traded my Z6 for the D4 tank wow. My D4 has 3,127 actuations and not a single scratch. Traded my z lenses and now have 150-600mm 5-6.3, 17-35mm f2.8-4 and a 70-200mm 2.8 on the way. I can’t be happier with this set up wow. Thank you for your information. Just subscribed. Thank you
Where did u get your d4?
@@nachohernandez9491 I bought it at a local shop in my town. I paid $2,000.00 on a trade but traded back for a Nikon Z series.
The store name is 256-282-5023 Camera Inn in Anniston Alabama. Reach out to him if you need something he is reasonable and will ship to you if you need anything. He can get anything you would need. Hope all is well
so you didn't keep the D4?
@@Stoney-Lawson no I don’t have the D4 anymore. I have Z6ii with S 70-200 2.8; 105 macro 2.8 S lens; 24-70 F4; Nikon 200-500 f5.6 having a blast with it. I do will be looking into the Z9 or D5 or D6 soon
I have to say having both the D4 and D4s the "minor" differences are major from how I've used it. The D4s has the AF mode of Group and the AF is overall noticeably better (a LOT better). Also the low light is noticeably better too. The paper to paper comparison of the two doesn't do the difference justice. That being said I still love my D4 and it is a top performer to this day.
I started my pro by getting a D3x then got a D4 and a week ago got a D5. Love all 3 cameras and look after them like my babies. Must admit the D4 is solid and does hold a special place in my collection.
I have a D4 and I live it. I recently sold my D500 primarily because of I felt the D500 was more difficult to maintain steadiness. I don't miss the D500 and the D4 creates better photos.
Hi Eric. This is a very useful video for those looking at buying older Nikon flagship cameras like the D4, D4s, etc. I have a Nikon D810 and very pleased with its overall performance and IQ. I am wondering what would be your views when comparing the D810 with D4s/D4 purely on the basis of IQ?
I just bought a D4 yesterday.Its the end of revolution.FANTASTIC.
I appreciated the overview and your logic. I've been a Canon shooter since the original digital rebel. Recently picked up a nikon D700 and I love shooting it. I will add the D4 to my wish list.
Awesome! The D700 is still a very solid camera. Thanks so much for watching! -Eric
Finally someone who talks about the picture and colors.. that's the way you should look at a picture... I own the d700 has little shutter lag and also like the colors it gives me ...love it
It’s now 8 years since you made this excellent video. What’s your view on the D4 today?
Even in 2024, the D4 and D4s are amazing choices for Landcsapes. It’s not all about megapixels. You can find them
So cheap now too. Thanks for commenting!
Então você poderia fazer um novo vídeo, atualizado.
Just purchased D4s today, 2022, terrific camera and waited some time for one to come onto the market that was low shutter and mint condition. Have D3 and a couple D800/ D850. All good tools to have in the box.
This one of my fave videos cos I just love the old Nikon pro bodies. It's late August 2019 and I'm currently in love with the D3X . I've been using one for the last 6 months and it replaced my D700 for studio portraits and events (in good light). The D3X needs slightly more careful processing to control contrast but the output is awesome. I will eventually get a D4 but I imagine it will take another year of mirrorless releases and hype until used D4's hit my price point.
It's time already. I got mine 20 days ago after going through classifieds for a year! I got it for $1150, With 55000 clicks and in mint condition. I feel very lucky to finally get my hands on it. Get it before they're gone forever.
@@wolfgangaigner You did the right thing. It's so good I'm becoming obsessed about this camera! Interestingly I too had a D700, and a D3 before. But I sold them and bought a D3x before I eventually switched to D4 (I can't afford multiple cameras). If you are curious to know, the D3x was mostly disappointing, unless used under controlled lighting.
@@nostalium Luckily for me I mainly shoot studio portraits with Elinchrom strobes so the D3X suits me extremely well. I now have a D810 too and the D3X is NOT shamed by it in the studio. I briefly had a D4s (which was great) but I decided that was too much money tied up in one body.
Great! No mirrorless for me as well. Don't need the banding, heating and inflated prices. It's that hand that rocks the craddle, not the craddle itself.
Kind regards.
Just came across this as I have gone back to shooting sports photography along with weddings with my D700 (I have used this for weddings for 9 years and it is fantastic.) However it is a little slow and does not have the buffer capacity to shoot action sports like football (soccer to you guys,) rugby, etc. Good to hear that it still gets such good comments in comparison to higher spec cameras. As most of my sport pics will be printed in newspapers I would be shooting at Jpeg medium even for heavy cropping. I shoot sports at these settings on the D700 and up to 5000 iso, I can happily crop into half the frame with very little noise. High ISO performance is important to me as I can't afford to splash out £10,000 on a 400mm f2.8 and instead shoot with the Nikon 200-500mm f5.6 zoom so the ability to go up to 12,800 means I can keep high shutter speeds even with low light and f5.6.
When i read al this stuff aboud the D5 wich has shadownoise at 100 ISO then iam stil very happy with my 4 D700 cameras.,
d700 is one of the best Nikons body every...I really love the colors of the images...I am d4s user.
Yeah i still use my d700 everyday
I've also been shooting with a D700 for years now and the only possible REAL upgrade I see on the market is the D4/D4s. In my opinion, no other low resolution Nikon digital body is really worth investing some money if you already own a D700.
Still got mine with only 26K shutter. I’m using my D850 a bit more now, still new. I shoot wildlife and sports. D4, the king of low light and buffer!
hi, im a "beginning" photographer (i started with a pocket camera at age 11 and now im 20 but i shoot nature for fun) and ive never really understood the point of the d5/4/3, etc when not being used for wildlife or sports. people buy those cameras for portraits, weddings, street, landscapes. why? why not buying a d700/750 that can pretty much do the same in those scenarios? just for the build quality? because i personally dont need 10fps for weddings, street, and landscapes. im not asking this to judge, but honestly to understand if im missing something. anyway, thank you for the video, was very informative.
I had the same thoughts until I started working for a company that shoots events and weddings. Autofocus is crucial there and you need a reliable camera with big battery.
Pro body is the way to go. I still use D3 :D
Love the D3 as well! That camera could survive a world war! Thanks for watching! -Eric
3 years later - im still on my lovely d2x.
Gonna switch to d4s/d5 now though :D
@@ITimo182 2020 and I still have my D3
Bought a d3s saturday... Gonna sell my d2x, d1x and d200 now to get another one. Im in love :)
@@ITimo182 Fantastic camera. You're going to love it!
I moved from the D3 to the D4 about five months ago, and with limited time with the D4 I am super satisfied with the move. I didn't do it for the extra Mega Pixels. I made the move to get better ergonomics and low light use. I wanted a DSLR vs a sub par AF on the first gen Z mirrorless bodies. And the S lenses are freaking outrageous right now, so hard pass for Nikon Mirrorless on my budget.
D500 Colors go wonky at 6400 ISO and get worst from there up. That to me was a vote for Full Frame since I shoot low light indoor events where color in the picture is a bid deal. If I need a good outdoor large field sports DSLR, the D500 would be first in line over the rest.
D4s is still super expensive for the marginal bump in specs. I get it if you shoot sports, you want the best and D4s maybe better AF wise, but for the price to me the D4 was a bargain.
D5 I have seen a lot of folks moving to it then moving right on to Mirrorless. I think the D5 improves on the D4/D4s. But sacrifices build quality that Pros demand. So for me in the future I may pass on the D5 after seeing it's the least favorite Pro DSLR in Nikons line up.
D6 seems like a great DSLR, but the price for it is still very high. With the Z9 now out for over a year, maybe the price comes down here soon, but I don't see a lot of folks jumping into a D6.
Great video, and I second your observations. I plan to keep my D4 till it dies. Just flat out a great camera, makes you want to just hold it and admire the way it fits in your hand. Crazy to think a camera would have such a great feel even at the weight that the D4 is. Still cannot believe I own one finally.
November 2020 & still use my Nikon D4, shutter count of 261,387. Just sent it to Nikon NY for repairs & cleaning.
March 2021 and still use my D2x
How do you tell your getting a USA model D4 from the serial number? I’m buying one off eBay. Thanks
It will actually say US or USA on the bottom of the grip where the serial number is
D4 vs d850 today? What would you suggest? I shoot sports and travel primarily. I understand the superiorities of 850 but how would it hold up for sports in terms of AF and buffer?
Yes thanks. I got one and still wasn't sure if I made a wise decision.
What do you think of the D 810 vs the D 850?
Hi Eric, first off, thank you so much for making that video and for answering all my questions. You did a great job amigo, and I really enjoyed your vid. I gotta say, you've got that D4 camera for a pretty good/excellent deal! (money-wise) good on ya mate!!
I'm right there with you when it comes to the Nikon D750. When it came out, I read a lot about it but when I tried it, I felt like something was missing. I didn't buy it and that was a good thing. I bought an used D600 from a friend of mine and I really like it, but in low light situations I don't find it very good. the AF isn't as fast as I wanna it to be.
It's really true what you say about not paying too much attention to how cameras look on paper, it's all about how you feel about a camera, why you need that particular camera and/or what you're planning to do with it. I think it's like hiring someone, you really need to see the person in real life before offering her/him the job, because all candidates look like a perfect fit for the job on paper, but they're not in real life.
Somehow, as you know, the D500 has been a controversial camera for many people and it's good to know that in low light situations, yes, the D500 could beat the D4 but like you said; by a hair. Also, I don't know if you agree on this but once you've tried a full frame camera, it's kind of hard to go back and start using a crop sensor camera, right?
Hahahaha, Thanks for being honest about the D5! I know I have asked you before about the D810 successor, but I'm kind of falling in love with the D4/D4s. I have used nikon/canon flagship cameras a few years ago but I have never tried the Nikon D4, however, I still remember the feeling of holding a flagship camera in my hands. it's just something else.
Anyway, Thanks again Eric for the vid and have a nice weekend with the family!
Jesús.
It was my pleasure to make the video as always and I am glad it helped you! And yes, I definitely agree about the D750. As for using a full frame sensor and then going to cropped, that is a tough question because each have their own advantages. However, it would be tough on me to go with a cropped sensor as a main camera because all of my pro lenses were purchased with a 35mm sensor focal length in mind. Thanks for watching as always! -Eric
I just follow your advice and got a d4 with 140k clicks for 1800 instead of a d750. Cant wait to have it deliver
No question, nor real comparison between the D4 and the D500. Excellent camera.
I was blown away by all the retaining details in my D4 pictures when doing retouching in Capture One 10. And yes, I would not change for a D5 nor an "S" model.
Do you reckon the dynamic range of the D4 is better than the Z9 or Z8?
So I've been shooting with the D4 since slightly after it's release. I've been looking into the D5, D500, and D750 to use with the D4 as a second camera to replace my older bodies (D3, D7000, D2x, D2h, D1x, D100, D70ir, and SLR/n) and be able to do high ISO for concerts. My problem with the D4 is that I can't get the auto-focusing to work well at all. It's fine at f/8+, but at f/1.4, f/1.8, f/2.8 the focusing is so miss miss miss. I try the af-fine tuning, but the 24-70 at different focal lengths and distances, it sucks. The only lenses that I get to work well (and by well I mean amazing) are the 35mm f/1.8 DX, 14-24 f/2.8 and the 105mm f/2.8 VR. My 85mm f/1.4D, 70-200 f/2.8, 24-70mm f/2.8, sigma 24mm f/1.4 and others focus just terribly. All these lenses on my other cameras (besides the D7000 which seems to focus as badly as the D4) work just awesome. I sent it into get the AF adjusted and it didn't get any better. Anyone else?
What do you think of the NIKON D6..???
Hi, A question please: what are your consideration about focus speed between D3s and D4 in low light situation? is D4 a big improvment? thanks
The D4 is much better at focusing in low light than the D3s, but the noise performance is not that difference between the two. Thanks for watching! -Eric
I have both, the D4 and D4s as well as the D3 and D3s and found the focusing switch from on the camera (3 settings) vs internal switching modes are terrible in very low light. I have lost more shots with the D4 and D4s, I have not had this problem with the D3 and D3s. I am experienced documentary photographer. My work around this problem is to shoot 3 frames and am likely to get one. Or, switch cameras, now taking 6 images to get one. I can't figure out which focusing mode to shoot just two people standing side by side to get them both in focus. I have used the 28mm 1.4, 24-70mm 2.8, 14-24mm 2.8. Help!
Backfocus problem?
One the thing I don’t really like is the back button AF-ON button feels mushy ,compared to the D3x and D500 that has a nice tactile click to them .
Use the Nikon D5 and go back with the Nikon D4. Have now two Nikon D4. 16MP is more than enough for me. The Nikon D6 is the worst camera i use. The best are the D3, D3s, D4 and the D4s.
Initially I fell in love with the D3, but the D4 is sounding better and better
I own(ed) a D810 and found it lacked any kind of AF speed using continuous shooting for aircraft and sports shots, so now own an immaculate low shutter D4 after seeing this video, the D4 for sports and action is still light years ahead of the D810
Have you used the D810 in crop mode??
Nice video, thanks a lot. What do you think about the Nikon D4S? I actually can get one here with just 20k clicks in great condition at roughly 2000 Euro.
20.9 MP on a crop sensor is equal to a 47MP on a full frame sensor - think of it as if you had a 47MP sensor cut into a cropped sensor.
This is why the 16MP of you D4 are more 'spread out' on your sensor and as a result of it the sensor is 'less pixels populated' therefore it has a better capability of gathering light than it would on a 47 MP full frame sensor (or 20.9 MP on the crop sensor mounted on the D500).
Re ISO and clean images, if you have nearly 3 times the pixel population on the sensor you need to multiply your noise times 3 when you look at your D500 files - hence the noise. The noise 'per se' is almost identical, but having 1/3 of the pixels you have 1/3 of the visible noise that you'd see on the D500 - if that makes sense.
You're absolutely right about the D810 - it's an amazing camera even today! The IQ is stunning and these 36MP the 'sweet spot' in my opinion.
So you would also recommend the D4s quality-wise if the D4 weren't to be available?
I want to move to nikon from sony should I buy the d4 or d4s ? I love to shoot sport like basketball and soccer and surfing... ?
D4 aquired low shutter count for a low price ,a stunning camera in every respect 16mpx is just fine for me ,the weight and bulk is not an issue ,images are great and easy to handle on the PC and storage is not a problem , a D3 is next on my list
Just got a D4s with 75’000 clics for 650 chf (650 $) the files are great but the raw files need some work especially with the WB (always to warm) I love the ergonomics !
I use a D3 :) use it all the time, had a chance to go modern but I bought some new glass instead :)
very good thinking , top quality glass is more important than new technology, just saying
I also love these cameras but am now moving forward. (2) D4 for sale with low actuations and all original packaging. Switched to the D850's and D500's. They fit my style of shooting better. Comment here if interested.
I'm in interested my email is TimPounds22@gmail.com
do you still have one for sale?
Hello Finding Middle Earth.. Great video. Always enjoyed @ your videos. If you dont mind me asking.. After looking at your video and others, I'm seriously considering now a used / pre-owned D4 for sports, action, low light photography.
Where is a reputable, good place to buy a used D4 ?
Thanks again for the help.
Japanese sellers on eBay with good ratings are usually excellent.
I have been using a d4 professionally for the last 4 years to shoot motocross, last week i purchased a d500 after all the hype and reviews. One week later im about to return the d500 as i have been very disappointed with it, image quality is JUST NOT even nearly as good as the d4 in any situation, yes the d500 is a step up from the d300 (i have one as well) but its a backward step if going from a d4 to a d500. I found in great light the d500 can produce some good images but as soon as the light is less than great the image quality falls off and the keeper rate is low, when i say less than great im talking dull flat light type winters day outdoors, the image quality then dives when shooting fast action sports and im only talking iso1000 1/1250 this is directly compared to what my d4 does in the same conditions when it would sill produce very good quality images. Its possible i have a duff body but ive used it a lot in the last 7 days shooting what i normally shoot with my d4 for a living and im very disappointed with the overall results even after trying just about every setting and adjustment there is on it. Today i will be returning the d500 and buying a second d4. Ill sum up by saying in pretty much any situation i would have to work in, i would be confident a d4 would get the job done for me and produce the images, if i was using the d500 i would be in trouble, but then the a few years ago d4 was a £5000 pro body and the d500 is currently a much cheaper prosumer body that will work great if your happy to shoot when it suits you in great conditions, and not when you just have to shoot no matter what...
I agree with all your conclusions. I own two D4 bodies. I have made 24" x 36" poster sized prints with this. The prints have zero pixels visible. Its great! I don't know what size of print you need to force the limitations of the sensor to become visible but those were the biggest prints I ever had made and that's as big as I would ever need. In my opinion, if a photographer needs to crop so much out of an image that pixels become evident, I may suggest getting closer to the subject or investing in come more powerful telephoto glass! Otherwise those 16MP are just fine for most applications!
GREAT video of your thoughts, and thank you! Perfect info. I've been thinking recently about adding a D4(s) or D5 to my arsenal for specific uses, and this nails it for me! Cheers!
Eric, I have a question. Do you clean your own cameras sensor and if so what product do you use. Thanks, Joe
Hi Joe, if I see a spot on my sensor, I always try to get it out first by using the rocket blower with the camera on mirror lock up, but if I cannot get it out, I take it to a professional Nikon certified tech that cleans it for me. I am fortunate enough to live only 20 minutes from a Nikon authorized service center :-)
It seems a crop sensor has an advantage for wildlife. You have to carry a lot heavier glass to get the same reach. I have 2- D800s. I know the 810 is a little better but not enough better to upgrade. I just got a D500. I am not so sure at 6400 ISO that the D500 is really better . The D500 goes higher than the D800 goes but at 6400 the D800 seems cleaner to me but I haven't tested it extensively like you guys do
I’m a big fan of my D3 in 2022 … if I’m looking to upgrade, I’m thinking Leica SL. Personally, if I’m leaving F mount … I’m really leaving for a whole new system for very specific advantages
I noticed in this video you use the drobo drives for backup storage. If you do not mind, what is your opinion of the drobo storage device? Are there any regrets or other storage devices you would have preferred purchasing?
Hi, Thanks for reaching out. I did a lot of research before deciding on Drobo, and what really made me pull the trigger with Drobo was that any other option in the same price range didn't have the same features as Drobo. The Drobo software is amazing for managing my storage, health of my drives, and notifies me by email and text when one of my drives is within 100GB of filling up. Also, Drobo's customer support is second to none. The only other option I was deciding on after all of my research was the Promise Pegasus servers. I'm sure they are great as well, but I just had a feeling about going with Drobo. Good luck and thanks for watching! -Eric
Good morning.
I really liked your video, informing you about the user experience of the Nikon d4s camera.
Please allow me to ask you a question: Can the Nikon D4s use a CF Express Type B card, instead of an XQD card? Is there an updated firmware that allows the use of the CF Express Type B card on the Nikon D4s? Thanks.
no. Nikon have not issued a firmware update to the D4s (or the D4) to support CFexpress cards.
2018 Aug. Do you still have your D4 or have you updated to something better?
I have the D850 now :-)
Wow D850 nice. That's on my super long wish list.
Are you worry that you “might” miss the D4 again and buy it for the 3rd time? Hahaha or maybe you can do a video on why you have decided to let go the D4?
Can you give some suggestion on lens to married with the D4 body for its fast focus and high FPS?
Shooting mainly - Portrait and some sport and action photography, would also like to have a nice lens for the Low lights environment.
Love your videos and Thank you for your time much appreciated
Now, 5 years later, the D4 is still my main gun - together with a Z6. I don´t see any reason for an upgrade to a D5 or D6, because i renewed the shutter and the rubbers last year for just € 600,- and hopefully it does her job for the next couple of years . Sometimes, when i´m filming concerts and i film with both bodies, even my D3 cames back of retirement and does the photography-part - up to ISO 3.200 without any problems and up to ISO 6.400 with some tweaks in Lightroom.
Amen I know Exactly what you mean D4 D3 stand on their own both incredible cameras New cameras seem to lack soul
Would you still buy a D4 in 2018? I have already a D850 and sold my D700 and D800e and would like to have a second body
Buy it even now if it has low shutter count. Flagships are flagships no matter how old. Some of my colleagues still work with d3... if you don't need it for video that much go for it.
Depends on what you shoot.
What should one expect to pay for a D4 in “mint” condition as you have described yours. Is that the body only? What base lens should you consider getting for landscape photography for a D4?
Hello, for a mint D4 of up to 150k on the shutter, you should pay $1000 - $1300. A great versatile lens for any Nikon is the Nikon 24-70 2.8 version 1
Hello, for a mint D4 of up to 150k on the shutter, you should pay $1000 - $1300. A great versatile lens for any Nikon is the Nikon 24-70 2.8 version 1
@@FindingMiddleEarth why do you prefer the older 24-70 over the new VR one?
@@wolfgangaigner Hey Pat, the new VR one actually has much worse optical quality than the first version. It suffers from worse chromatic aberration as well. It’s heavier and the VR doesn’t even work as good as the OIS on Fuji’s standard 18-55 kit lens. Hope that helped :-)
Ok I am looking to invest no I am not a pro photographer I shoot my daughter at the gym and competitions I have been looking at the D500 for indoor sports All-Star Cheer but looking at this video now I am confused ?????? I know that I need the 10fps and I also know I need a good low light and focusing camera the D500 has 153 focusing points however I don't need all that because on the stage the most a team has is 30 cheer leaders now how is the coverage in the view finder? So what is the difference between the D4/D4s? and the buffering?
Greetings Eric, What would you consider as a good second/backup body? I currently own a D4s and considering a second body. I am considering a D500 or a D4s. I shoot low light sports (Boxing, Football, basketball, swimming, Gymnastics, etc.) and dance theatre. I also shoot landscape and street portraits. I am seeking various opinions and why. Thanks for the informative video.
Hi, thanks for watching the video! Hmm, this is a tough question because you shoot so many different genres. So, it looks like you shoot a lot of low light events with some landscape and street portraits mixed in. I am assuming that sports and low light events is what brings you the most full time money, in which case I would advise you to look at the D500 as a second body. The reason I would recommend the D500 is because the low light AF ability of that camera is spot on amazing. Also, I think it would be a great complimentary body to your D4s because you would have a cropped sensor body for extra reach on your pro lenses instead of having to use teleconverters on your D4s which would decrease your light by a stop or two. The D500 would also be cheaper than getting another D4s. The only way I would suggest for you to get another D4s for your second body would be if you are what I call a "Wide/Long" shooter. What I mean is if you always carry two bodies mounted on yourself at once, one with a wide lens and one with your long lens. With that setup, it would probably be more beneficial for you to have both cameras be full frame so that your focal lengths are exactly what you want them to be. Also, it's easier during dual camera scenarios to have the cameras be identical so that your buttons and settings are in the same exact spot for quick working while you're on location shooting your paid events. Keep in mind, this was all based on my assumption that most of what you do is sports and low light events.
Now, on the opposite end of the spectrum... If you shoot equal landscape with sports and portraits, you might actually want to consider a D810 or the D850 if it actually comes out this September. I'm sure you know why I am suggesting this. The D810 has incredible image quality, incredible shadow detail, the best dynamic range I have seen from a DSLR, and of course the megapixels to make all of your portraits and landscapes jump off the bloody screen. It's a rockin camera. It's just all about which genre you shoot most and where your financial priority is at. I hope that helped :-). -Eric
Thank you for such a detailed response. Your points are very valid every scenario. I have previously used a D7000 for a second body for sports which has not been good in low light. In addition, you nailed my reason for the second body because it is for Wide/Long. However a D500 would prevent the use of a teleconverter for more reach with my 300mm F2.8 VRII. However, I can always crop in the body of a D4s. Again, thanks much.
It's my pleasure! I am always more than happy to chat about photography :-). It sounds like you might want to give the D500 a shot then so that you don't have to use the teleconverter. Good luck! -Eric
hi, great video, .... If we have to choose between D3s & D4s ? .... don't know why but somehow i am leaning towards D3s more, .... isn't it better of the two ? ... i would like to think so, but wanted to know your thoughts. Thanks.
Hello, if you have the budget, then I would go with the D4s because it is a better camera than the D3s in every way. However, if you're only going to use it for events and weddings with no printing or landscape work, you might want to save some money and go with a D3s or D4 because they're all great in low light. The biggest thing you will gain from the D4 and D4s is the light up buttons, better dynamic range, more resolution, and better shadow detail. Thanks and good luck! -Eric
thanks a great deal for the answer i was looking for. It really helped, as i searched extensively, but couldn't find the right reply before today. Sorry i forgot to say that i do street photography. I don't print large size. The D3s was the appealing to me due to its most rugged built quality ever found on any Dslr to date (build to last forever), even superior to its successor D4 or D4s.
Also, i saw last month, the most accurate review on the net, comparing D3s to D4 & D3 ..... which says that D3s is the best of the lot. I'm sure you must have seen it too.
fstoppers.com/gear/nikon-d4-vs-d3s-d3-and-d7000-d3s-wins-updated-6245
Also, Thanks for clearing the misconceptions about D500 as it was touted to be the next big thing.
Now I have the Nikon D4-- is it a good camera to use for videos on youtube /what camera are you using to record this session..thanks larry
Hi.. do u still prefer this camera in 2020 ?
D4 is terrific.....have 2 of them with a D850. D4 saves lots of shots that would be junk with other cameras. D850 is pretty wicked tho. Just cannot make mistakes....it's a very tough camera to get spot on. Noise on a D4 is acceptable FOR PRINTING large prints all the way to 6400 as long as it's exposed correctly the first time....make prints to 11 x 14.
I got a d4 with 8,400 shutter actuations, coming from a sony a7rii which has the latest firmware and still locks down the e-shutter curtain and bad battery. I moved to nikon again.
I also have r2 and think to come back to nikon maybe d4s
Hey, what do you think of the Nikon D6 compared to these Cameras you showed?
Is it worth the money to ugrade or is it not a necessary Camera like the D5?
Could you please do a Video about how well images from a 16 MP D4 Full Frame stack up against a 24 Mp APSC ? Thanks.
I do mostly portraits and city photography...I am thinking the D850 might be better for me....am I wrong? I dont do sports at all. I dont think I need the buffer speed this provides. My only other option is a Z6. Someone recommended this D4 but Don't know.
I’m discovering the same of my old pair D3S, D300S & wanting a D810 but then D850 came out. I went for it instead & held off on D500 now. But I’m loving the D4S even compared to D850 in those low light clarity u spoke of. So amazing still & even if u want the soft texture of film it’s beautiful at 12,800 easy indoor w/ gently fill flash
I have a d610 as a main camera with a d3200 as a second camera as an intermediate photographer I've been thinking of getting a d4 or d4s to make my main camera as I'm getting more and more work for portraits and smaller events. Would you still recommend the d4 over the d4s in 2017? Is it still worth a buy over the newer d4s? Thanks
Hi Vicente, I would definitely still recommend the D4 in 2017. A lot of event shooters are still shooting with even the D3s. If you can find a D4s for a good deal now that the D5 is out, you will love the D4s as well because the focus acquisition will be a little faster than the D4, but the D4 is still amazing. If you want to see a video I made where I shot all the photos with the D4 is extreme low light, check it out here: ruclips.net/video/l7O-B8fiY-Q/видео.html
I shoot mainly portraiture and weddings. I currently shoot the D700 and I am trying to decide whether to add the D4 or D4s, I can't decide if the minor upgrades are worth an extra thousand dollars or not.
Hi Claire, I have shot with the D700 which is still a good camera, however, buying the D4 for weddings specifically is well worth the upgrade due to the insane low light autofocus capability. It's also easily 2 stops better with noise reduction. Hope that helps! Thanks for watching! -Eric
I don’t see a reason to upgrade unless you’re having trouble focusing. To be honest my D7000 still focuses pretty good at weddings. Colors have more pop than my D3 unless I put D3 in vivid mode.
I use to own the D7000, wasn't impressed with it, as it is well documented that model suffered from focusing problems. I haven't owned the D3, but have the D3s and I can tell you from experience it out shines the D7000 colors which I found to be rather muddy, and my D3s blasts the D7000 in both sharpness and in dynamic range. I traded the D7000 up to a D7100 and what a difference; much better performance. However Full Frame cameras always beat any DX in dynamic range; that's not a opinion that is fact. Small sensors in DX always fall short of bigger sensor in FX.
I don't know if I agree with FME's reasons to take the D4 over the D700. First off the D700 is not a good camera.... it is a OUTSTANDING CAMERA!! The real reason you should consider a camera like the D4 over the D700 is one.... 2 card slots versus 1 for the D700. If in the unlikelihood should card failure happen in the D4, you would have your second card with all the files safe from the shoot. In the D700 case... disaster, you lost the whole shoot and someone's memories and... wave goodbye to your reputation, not to mention a probable lawsuit. Card failure is rare, but it happens. Secondly any of the flag ship pro models can be adjusted on the fly without digging into the menu. Pro's generally don't like pop up flashes being accidently hit and killing a shot Faster shutter counts will make sure you nail the sweet spots and capture the moment. Also noteworthy a camera like the D4 will balance those longer and heavier lenses better than the smaller D700, building confidence and lessening fatigue. And lastly and extremely noteworthy is... the cool factor of using such a camera.
Interesting take ! I'm looking at the d500 and you really have thrown a spanner into the mix to think about . I'm subscribed !
Glad you enjoyed! In the end, just get the gear that makes you happy and fits your workflow. Thanks for watching! -Eric
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thank god! someone that tells his personal reasons between the cameras by experience vs bullshit specs, this is the reason why Ive held on to my D700 all these years, so a true upgrade to me would also be a d4 or d4s..
You got it! The D700 is still a great camera and so many still use it. Others just look at the year it came out and assume it's a crappy camera. Thanks for watching! -Eric
Hey Eric. Thanks for the video. Since you mentioned you don't mind questions for video suggestions... I would be interested in seeing an update on your feisol tripod and ballhead . Are they working out? Would you recommend them? I need to buy a tripod and ballhead - Im just getting into landscape photography. The setup you have seems very nice. I was also looking at feisols next step down - the CT-3442 for legs and the CB-50dc for ballhead. I was thinking it might save weight if I go for extended hikes into the wilderness. But would I be giving up stability? Any thoughts?
it may be helpful to add, my current landscape kit consists of a nikon D810 and the tamron 15-30mm lens (over 2lbs)
Hi David, thanks for reaching out. I would be glad to do a video on that for you. It's no easy task choosing a tripod so I feel your pain. It took me years to finally settle on this Feisol setup. I will do my best to work on the video this weekend for you. Thanks so much for watching! -Eric
Very informative and engaging presentation. Thanks much for that.
Just wondering if you are still using your D4 to this day. I am sure that system will continue to run effortlessly.
It does. It´s my main gun for professional use even in 2021 according to my Z6.
Are you still using the d4 now the d850 has come out? if you have not got a d850, will you be getting one to replace?
Great very informative video! You covered a lot of topics with extreme helpful insight and kept it to the point! Thanks!
What the processor Xpeed4 in D810 vs Xpeed3 in D4??
Is d4 good for sports ? like soccer and basketball ?
It’s one of the best sports cameras ever
How do you like the skin tones on the D4 compared to the D3s. I always loved the D3s skin tones
hi....i wanted to know about the green tint color on d4 screen as i have read on forums and seen on another video . What's your opinion if you noticed and i wish to know what could be the solution.
I have owned two Nikon D4 cameras and have never had any problems with green tints on the screen. The best solution I can give is to take it to a Nikon authorized repair center and have them replace the display. Typically costs around $450 US dollars. Thanks for watching! -Eric
Just found your channel. Getting back into photography after a couple decades. Last camera was a D300. It’s 2023 in less than a month. I’m looking at D780 D850 D4 and D810. My prints will never be over 30” and not much sports shots but some. Portrait and landscape. Video eh just icing. Which of these would you choose if you could only have one ?
Welcome back to photography! I actually took a break from RUclips to fall in love with it again without social media distraction. If you’re going with full frame Nikon, I’d 100% go with the D850. It has the best at all those cameras you mentioned. However, if you’re willing to try something new, take a look at the Fujifilm system. The 40mp XH2 is amazing and if you want medium format, they have options for that too in the price range of the D850. I shoot on Fujifilm now and love it.
@@FindingMiddleEarth
Thank you. Just watched your D850 review. I used to shoot F100 with slide film exclusively. You can’t beat film !!!!! I will buy the D850. Thank you !!
@@flatheadfletch That’s awesome! You’ll be obsessed with the D850! Fantastic camera
@@FindingMiddleEarth
Well after researching further. I have a D4s very low shutter count 27xxx on the way. Post processing on D850 would just be more than needed. To high pixel count. I’m stoked
@@flatheadfletchHow did the D4s work out for you?
It is everything about the camera put together but, when you talk about pixels, it is the pixel pitch. That is a major factor in what makes the pro bodies pro.
Hello. I just wanted to ask your opinion and by the way it was a nice review. If I can get a used D4s, would that be okay as per your opinion? You mentioned that the differences are minute, but since it's a matter of personal preference, would it be a good choice if the opportunity arose? Would really appreciate your opinion.
Hello Jose, thanks for reaching. In order for me to give you an honest and accurate opinion, I would like to ask a couple of questions. Is photography your full time career or just a fun hobby? What type of photography do you shoot? Also, do you shoot often in bad weather conditions? Thanks for watching! -Eric
Hi! Thanks for reaching out man! First of all I'm not a professional, but I've been shooting since my teenage years (I'll be 60 in October) but I do enjoy quality products. I've never had a Nikon before; I've owned Olympus OM 4t, Canon F-1, Canon T-90 and my jump to digital was a the old Canon EOS 7D and now I have a Sony A77m2. Shooting with the old film cameras was basically shooting full frame and I've been watching Canon and Nikon cameras for years. I love to shoot street photography, landscapes, architecture and portraits. Living here in tropical Puerto Rico you have lots of scenic views to choose from. I'm still thinking of making the jump to full frame and when I saw your reasons I thought: "this guy really knows what he's talking about". I've seen the D4, D4s on Ebay and wanted to know your opinion. Oh yes.. I sometimes shoot in rainy weather. Thanks again buddy!
D4s for life!
Never mind, you answered my questions. Thanks a million.
You are perfectly right this is marketing and that's all. We sell perfect new machines for a brand new with same specs it's insane! You have a new follower.
Thanks for following and watching! -Eric
How do the files and ISO performance of this camera compare to the X T2?
Could you maybe make a video about it? Cause this camera has a lot to offer even now.
Hi Proper, no mirrorless camera can beat the D4 at ISO. If you specifically looking for a low light beast, go with the D4 or D4s. The X-T2 looks really good at high ISO, but the D4 is almost flawless. It's all about what genre you shoot. Thanks! -Eric
It only makes sense it'd be cleaner at ISO values. Larger format *and* fewer megapixels. If the X T2 could compete at all with that it'd be an act of voodoo.
I wish that cameras that were good for birding and wild life were also good for what things like the X T2 is. x.x
All it would take, really is for Fuji to *finally* make a 300mm f2.8 but nope.
What do you use the Nikon D4 fo and what do you use the X T2 for?
I have a D850 but I'm strongly tempted to acquire a D4s in good conditions (pro body...). I know it sounds crazy, but I'd like to hear about your opinion. Thanks
I went down that route. Got a D850 for resolution and reach and a D4s for low light and smaller files.
Eric, Last night I listened to your video about why you bought the Nikon D4. And after the video I ventured onto Ebay to check out the D4's and to my surprise I found a new D4 for only $2500. So now I'm a proud owner of a D4. I've been saving my money to buy the D850 or the D4s, but this camera is even cheaper than a D850. So now I owe you big time, maybe I should buy you a new SUV BMW. Well at least we can say the Marks family loves their D4's. I'm also a "Marks". Cheers
Nice review, I've had my D4 for 3 years and still love it, but for sports and action D5 is far far superior camera in every way.
Thanks. This was an awesome video and your facts on the D5 are accurate. I too feel the D5 is not worth the price. I do own a d810. Just got a mint D4 with less than 7000 shutter clicks.
I'm also torn between a 2400euro D500 or a 4500euro D4s both brand new. With this price difference would you still pick the D4s Eric? I also like the bigger batteries in the D4s who would give you a lot more shots.
Hello Ricardo, this is a tough decision because it really depends on what you're going to use it for. Do you shoot mainly sports and action photos or do you shoot a little bit of everything? If you shoot any landscapes or nature, I would say to save your money and wait a couple of months for Nikon to release the successor to the D810 and Photokina in September. If you shoot 100% sports and action as your career then I would try to find a good priced D4s since it has better build, better weather sealing, and longer battery like you said. Thanks for watching! -Eric
I use an 850 love it just ordered a D4- gonna whack my 300mm f4 and tc 1.4 on it hopefully the less pixels will negated by the longer reach and cleaner iso. wish my luck
K B87 less pixels don’t matter ! It has insane dynamic range . Just don’t crop as much
Does the D4 working good for Macro ??
for every day camera, sure D4 is fine, but if youre doing fast focus and sports, D500 is far superior especially the buffer you cant beat