Ironically, when we compare 2008 & 2021, Charlie whiting (RIP) & race control was as clean as a whistle. They never changed the rules to give other competitors an advantage
Felipe has nothing against Lewis but with F1 who were aware of the crashgate and didn't suspend Singapore 2008, if that race didn't count, Massa would've won the championship
@leopreldakaj5313 why would the race not count? Never happened in the history of the sport, maybe in 1988 with that bullshit best 11 results rule, but no one is *actually* convinced by it, everyone recognizes that Prost outscored Senna that year, so the "race not counting" wouldn't make sense. If they just disqualify Alonso then Hamilton would just win by a bigger margin.
@@GameOver-nm2us I'm not aware of the "best 11" thing u mentioned and I'm sure it's not same as Crashgate. You can't only eliminate Alonso since he had nothing to do with it and it was Piquet who caused it, the race results shouldn't have counted because Massa was completely dominating the race and Piquet crashing made him go out of the points
Guys lets be real: Felipe is a Champion! If not for basically one position more or less for Lewis at least for his respect and strength!! He is genuinely such a good guy and he would have deserved this championship especially winning it in Brazil so much!!
He isn’t an f1 WDC but that doesn’t mean he was t a damn good driver before his accident. Saying people are world champions just because they got close is useless. Instead see that they were very good but someone else was a bit better or luckier but luck is always a part of sport so that is unnecessary. I think it is bad sportsmanship from Massa to try to revoke the results so many years after the event
Com certeza a maior decisão da história a de 2008, uma incrível reviravolta e Lewis cruzou a linha sem saber se tinha sido campeão, fiquei impressionado com a revelação desse inglês que se tornou o GOAT da F1 passando os recordes de Schumacher, histórico.
Its ridiculous when people compare 2008 to 2021. In 2008 it was just unfortunate for Felipe but at least no rules were broken. Unlike the wrong executed safety car procedure in 2008
Hungary leading the race with 3 laps to go and his engine gave up... Singapore...etc He won more races and that number would be higher if it wasn't for his engine at Hungary or that fake Singapore race that should be canceled... Don't forget he lost it by 1 point.. Just the results of one of these 2 races would make him the champion..
@@henry247 you do know that after france hamilton was pointless for 4 races and had slipped from 1st to 4th in the championship but massa didnt know how to drive because next race he got lapped by lewis twice
It's crazy to think that Hamilton could have 9 World Championships if he hadn't messed up in the last few laps in 2007, and he wasn't robbed by Michael Masi in 2021.. Still absolutely mindboggled by what all took place that night and how Masi was a smart ass about it on the radio after. Couldn't believe what was happening at the end of the race and how Hamilton handled the whole situation afterward was amazing. I don't think many people would have been able to do the same after getting robbed by someone of the record breaking 8th championship. I hope Hamilton gets another shot at the 8th title, but it's not looking good for Mercedes at the moment. Red Bull are just too far ahead of everyone in the new regulations, hopefully others can catch up within the next year or two and make it interesting again. Hamilton deserves an 8th world championship and the record! It's not fair that one man basically changed rules on the fly and stole his title away from him.
Could’ve had 10, remember in 16 he backed up Nico if the Red Bull and Ferrari had the speed they have now he could’ve had 10 but yeah in 10 seasons he’s either won the WDC or gone into the finale with a chance to win pretty incredible to be fighting for a WDC 10 of his 17yrs
If’s don’t exist in sport. Really easy to pick out one event out of many during a championship that could change the outcome 180. He didn’t win. Raikkonen could’ve scores more points earlier in the season not making the final race the decider. Same to 2021, if Pirelli used harder compounds Verstappen wouldn’t have crashed in Baku. Also still find it strange to this day how both mercedes cars crashed the Red Bull off the track without real consequences Edit: forgot to add: doesnt take away that 7 wins is impressive
This is what I dislike about Lewis...fast driver no question, but how can he say 2008 wasn't manipulated? Singapore was clearly manipulated and cost massa the title, no doubt
Totally different scenario. Crash Gate was planned by the Renault team, not the FIA. You can call Singapore 2008 an instance of cheating by a specific team, but it’s totally different from AD 2021, which was manipulated by the FIA-the supposed governing body-by breaking its own rules.
@sundoris2657 it doesn't matter. It's a manipulation, no need to go into the semantics... if you do want however , how about 2007? McLaren manipulated the championship, stole data from Ferrari, breached the rules yet Lewis would not have minded to win the title in this cheating car. If that's not enough for you, look at Australia 2009. Lewis again lied to win a podium, and when he was caught he threw david Ryan under the bus, who had been with the team for decades.
How could they not see the last lap(s) only after that many years? Should be part of debrief, lessons learned, how it happened exactly etc … idk, strange to me
2007, 2016 and 2021. Lewis Hamilton should Win Championship. 2007 = Mclaren purposely didn't pitted Lewis Hamilton until the tyre no thread left. In China Circuit. 2016 = Lewis Hamilton Engine Failure in Malaysia Circuit. 2021 = Got robbed by at last lap, by helping from Michael Masi.
FM won that race off course , but the World championship is count on total points for that season and hamilton won it, so there are no question on why FM wanted to challege the title in Court ? He must have been desperate
Massa and Ferrari, right after the 2008 went to their lawyer team to see if there was anything that could be done regarding Singapore 2008. Since the big heads of the sports supposedly weren't aware of anything suspicious at that time(late 2008), the FIA Gala went on and the championship was over. Just recently, Ecclestone revealed that both him and Mosley knew from the get go that there was something suspicious with Piquet's crash but they decided to ignore it,as the consequences would be detrimental.... Piquet Sr revealed everything to Whiting during the weekend of the 2008 Brazilian gp... Massa ain't desperate,he just wants justice since the big heads of the sport were aware of the situation from 2008
First time I have seen this footage it's good to see past been brought back to live.. masa for me is a deserved world champion 1 of the best drivers I have ever seen and an amazing guy.. thes are the the Times when driving was all about passion skills and dedication. something has gone rong with f1 today.. f1 just seems corrupt and it doesn't sit right atoll it's looks like dethrone sis Lewis at any cost.! and max is the scapegoat for all of this bs that is going on and this Ruin Max's career from the hart peace
Hamilton say "2021 was different", but we know doesnt... literally Massa lost the championship because one episode of manipulation and FIA dont make anything to help, Massa deserve that title and everybody agree
It’s different. Crash Gate was planned by the Renault team, not the FIA. Singapore 2008 can be considered an instance of cheating by a specific team, but it’s totally different from AD 2021, which was manipulated by the FIA-the supposed governing body-by breaking its own rules. Yes, Massa deserved to win the title that year, but so did Lewis, and he won it fair and square on the track
Timo Glock certainly let all of the worlds racing fans down. Massa was such a more mature charismatic person and a much better ambassador for the sport.
Bruh, literally not his fault… he had a different set of tires, so stop blaming him for smth he had little to no control over. Anyway, Lewis would still have won 6 other championships. Stop crying. It happened. So accept it. F1 is about who’s the best racer, not the best ‘ambassador.’ Go watch smth else if you’re into that.
Better ambassador who is still salty so many years later because he didn’t win the WDC. Yes he was close and yes he was a very good driver but the reality is that he lost and you can’t punish everyone for what 1 team did. Should the 2019 season be removed because Ferrari cheated in most races by having higher fuel flow than was allowed but cheated the sensor(the sensor is there for control but even if the sensor clears them it is still illegal because the rules didn’t state you had to have a reading of the sensor of x fuel flow but that the actual fuel flow couldn’t be above x.
Timo Glock was in a worse car and on much worse tires. If Timo had been on other tires that means he would have pitted and already been behind Lewis. Do you want f1 to be a race between 2 cars so less people can interfere unwillingly? Yes what a fun sport that would make
Man Hamilton really had the chance with this interview. He comes over as very likable until 4:00 when he starts putting his victim hat on again and going on about how everything is a conspiracy against him. He’s definitely a f1 champion, but this guy just doesn’t have a champion personality 🤦♂️
Stop moaning. What is wrong in saying that? He said it was manipulated and then clarified as in a decision someone made which is true. He didnt say anything about a conspirecy against him or max not deserving it. He was incredibly classy and mature right after abu dhabi 2021 but you cant seriously expect him to completly accept how it happend. Anybody who lost a title like that would be upset.
Besides he didnt bring that up out of the blue did he? He was asked about it and said how he felt. Not really putting a victim hat just answering the question
@@Prince4851 why? Schumi was always my Champion....and now we have our Fellow country man.... All you guys have is a medium driver in a european car... Life is good...
love how Lewis still apologises to Timo after all that time
He should be a 9 times f1 world champion...
Tbf he doesnt have to Timo had his own race to run
@@bretmanuel2490yeah 2007 and 2016 could have easily been his
Ironically, when we compare 2008 & 2021, Charlie whiting (RIP) & race control was as clean as a whistle. They never changed the rules to give other competitors an advantage
Yeah he only killed one.
@@bigbusiness7035 go complain to Renault & Briatore. They cheated and Ecclestone was part of the crime scene
@@Italia216 not talking about that. Charlie killed Jules
Shut up idiot
@@bigbusiness7035 what? How?
Hamilton: He’s a champion in my eyes.
Felipe: I agree. Now hand it over
Still salty bro?? Why dont u tell that to crashtappen and masi? Idiot
Felipe has nothing against Lewis but with F1 who were aware of the crashgate and didn't suspend Singapore 2008, if that race didn't count, Massa would've won the championship
@leopreldakaj5313 why would the race not count? Never happened in the history of the sport, maybe in 1988 with that bullshit best 11 results rule, but no one is *actually* convinced by it, everyone recognizes that Prost outscored Senna that year, so the "race not counting" wouldn't make sense. If they just disqualify Alonso then Hamilton would just win by a bigger margin.
@@GameOver-nm2us I'm not aware of the "best 11" thing u mentioned and I'm sure it's not same as Crashgate. You can't only eliminate Alonso since he had nothing to do with it and it was Piquet who caused it, the race results shouldn't have counted because Massa was completely dominating the race and Piquet crashing made him go out of the points
Guys lets be real: Felipe is a Champion! If not for basically one position more or less for Lewis at least for his respect and strength!! He is genuinely such a good guy and he would have deserved this championship especially winning it in Brazil so much!!
He’s a nice guy, but Lewis deserved the 2008 title more than anyone else. Silverstone proved who’s the Champion.
He isn’t an f1 WDC but that doesn’t mean he was t a damn good driver before his accident. Saying people are world champions just because they got close is useless. Instead see that they were very good but someone else was a bit better or luckier but luck is always a part of sport so that is unnecessary. I think it is bad sportsmanship from Massa to try to revoke the results so many years after the event
Only person to blame for 2008 is Felipe, he made so many errors that season
Massa is such a gentleman
Court case?
@@kissmlungu7883 yeah i would not say the same after everything thats happened since lol
Great joke
@@sandordomonkos8351 little did i know aha
Good one lol
Com certeza a maior decisão da história a de 2008, uma incrível reviravolta e Lewis cruzou a linha sem saber se tinha sido campeão, fiquei impressionado com a revelação desse inglês que se tornou o GOAT da F1 passando os recordes de Schumacher, histórico.
I am not a fanboy of any racer outside of travis pastrana and the block family, but this is a very wholesome and touching acknowledgment from LH.
Its ridiculous when people compare 2008 to 2021. In 2008 it was just unfortunate for Felipe but at least no rules were broken. Unlike the wrong executed safety car procedure in 2008
I like to believe Felipe Massa lost the championship in silverstone when he couldnt deal with the conditions and got lapped twice by Hamilton
Remember Bahrain and Canada? Stellar performance by Lewis
He lost the championship in Singapore when piquet Jr. Crashed that Renault
@@vincenzomartino5648 Hungary with 3 laps to go…
Hungary leading the race with 3 laps to go and his engine gave up...
Singapore...etc
He won more races and that number would be higher if it wasn't for his engine at Hungary or that fake Singapore race that should be canceled...
Don't forget he lost it by 1 point..
Just the results of one of these 2 races would make him the champion..
@@henry247 you do know that after france hamilton was pointless for 4 races and had slipped from 1st to 4th in the championship but massa didnt know how to drive because next race he got lapped by lewis twice
Felipe is so underrated mate. shame he was never the same after his accident.
2021 can never be compared to any season as it waa clearly manipulated by the FIA and Horner (Redbull)
True
Glad to see LH not bullied into accepting 2021 and opening acknowledging how it was manipulated
Agreed!
3:01 what a classy guy. Compare that to what Max Verbackstabbin would say
He‘s definetely acting like it, hopefully he is always like that way.
The names people make for lewis and max just keep getting worse and worse.
@@10acious32 my favorite was Max Flexfloorstappen lol. I had a good chuckle at that creativity
@@nerodize_ he supported latifi, remember? he is.
@@thelarry383 LMAO who the hell makes these up though.
Thanks for the upload. Now I know why Lewis says M for McLaren.
It's crazy to think that Hamilton could have 9 World Championships if he hadn't messed up in the last few laps in 2007, and he wasn't robbed by Michael Masi in 2021.. Still absolutely mindboggled by what all took place that night and how Masi was a smart ass about it on the radio after. Couldn't believe what was happening at the end of the race and how Hamilton handled the whole situation afterward was amazing. I don't think many people would have been able to do the same after getting robbed by someone of the record breaking 8th championship. I hope Hamilton gets another shot at the 8th title, but it's not looking good for Mercedes at the moment. Red Bull are just too far ahead of everyone in the new regulations, hopefully others can catch up within the next year or two and make it interesting again. Hamilton deserves an 8th world championship and the record! It's not fair that one man basically changed rules on the fly and stole his title away from him.
Could’ve had 10, remember in 16 he backed up Nico if the Red Bull and Ferrari had the speed they have now he could’ve had 10 but yeah in 10 seasons he’s either won the WDC or gone into the finale with a chance to win pretty incredible to be fighting for a WDC 10 of his 17yrs
He didn't mess up 2007 his gearbox failed in Brazil
If’s don’t exist in sport. Really easy to pick out one event out of many during a championship that could change the outcome 180. He didn’t win. Raikkonen could’ve scores more points earlier in the season not making the final race the decider. Same to 2021, if Pirelli used harder compounds Verstappen wouldn’t have crashed in Baku. Also still find it strange to this day how both mercedes cars crashed the Red Bull off the track without real consequences
Edit: forgot to add: doesnt take away that 7 wins is impressive
Kinda happy that it did. Allowed Kimi to have a WDC to his legacy. @@tvhsongo
2016 lost it by 5 points
Dude, its just a mistery what would be Interlagos if Massa had won the championship in Brazil.
Unfortunately we will never know.
Yeah. Massa didn't lose the 2008 world championship, Lewis just won it.
"This one wasn't manipulated by anybody"
*Laughs in Bernie Ecclestone
That Singapore result should of been vacated, Masa deserved the WDC
This is what I dislike about Lewis...fast driver no question, but how can he say 2008 wasn't manipulated? Singapore was clearly manipulated and cost massa the title, no doubt
Totally different scenario. Crash Gate was planned by the Renault team, not the FIA. You can call Singapore 2008 an instance of cheating by a specific team, but it’s totally different from AD 2021, which was manipulated by the FIA-the supposed governing body-by breaking its own rules.
@sundoris2657 it doesn't matter. It's a manipulation, no need to go into the semantics... if you do want however , how about 2007? McLaren manipulated the championship, stole data from Ferrari, breached the rules yet Lewis would not have minded to win the title in this cheating car.
If that's not enough for you, look at Australia 2009. Lewis again lied to win a podium, and when he was caught he threw david Ryan under the bus, who had been with the team for decades.
How could they not see the last lap(s) only after that many years? Should be part of debrief, lessons learned, how it happened exactly etc … idk, strange to me
You think the driver does a race debrief last race of the season when he's won the WDC?
No, I think He's busy getting drunk!
Lewis should really have 10 championships
So true
💯💯
And Schumacher as well.
2007, 2016 and 2021. Lewis Hamilton should Win Championship.
2007 = Mclaren purposely didn't pitted Lewis Hamilton until the tyre no thread left. In China Circuit.
2016 = Lewis Hamilton Engine Failure in Malaysia Circuit.
2021 = Got robbed by at last lap, by helping from Michael Masi.
@@khalidlatip7519 💯
Why do Sky keep torturing Massa? Poor guy!
Love the linkin park song in the background
Very nice
2006 that turn where Lewis overtook Glock is etched in Ferrari and brazilian fans hearts besides the people involved
FM won that race off course , but the World championship is count on total points for that season and hamilton won it, so there are no question on why FM wanted to challege the title in Court ? He must have been desperate
Massa and Ferrari, right after the 2008 went to their lawyer team to see if there was anything that could be done regarding Singapore 2008. Since the big heads of the sports supposedly weren't aware of anything suspicious at that time(late 2008), the FIA Gala went on and the championship was over.
Just recently, Ecclestone revealed that both him and Mosley knew from the get go that there was something suspicious with Piquet's crash but they decided to ignore it,as the consequences would be detrimental.... Piquet Sr revealed everything to Whiting during the weekend of the 2008 Brazilian gp... Massa ain't desperate,he just wants justice since the big heads of the sport were aware of the situation from 2008
average hamilton fan who doesnt actually understand what is being talked about
@@ArnavChaudhary-wv8kkyour not worth it
Singapore is the problem, not Brazil
@@ArnavChaudhary-wv8kk ok just forget Belgium that year, where Massa was handed a race win for free
Glock gave Lewis his first WDC. 😂
Wish massa would have won. Especially since Lewis had so much more success later on
I taught massa won it deffo loss we all face it rise but its very painfull sorry 😎
First time I have seen this footage it's good to see past been brought back to live.. masa for me is a deserved world champion 1 of the best drivers I have ever seen and an amazing guy.. thes are the the Times when driving was all about passion skills and dedication. something has gone rong with f1 today.. f1 just seems corrupt and it doesn't sit right atoll it's looks like dethrone sis Lewis at any cost.! and max is the scapegoat for all of this bs that is going on and this Ruin Max's career from the hart peace
you probably didnt watch the whole season if you think only Massa deserved the championship
@@drugoviic agree but i think they're saying massa should have won a championship not necessarily 08
Ok let's not get it switched..! I'll put it this way instead he stud out to me..!!
Slippy when wet 🎇😎✨
lets blame the announcer
For what?
Hamilton say "2021 was different", but we know doesnt... literally Massa lost the championship because one episode of manipulation and FIA dont make anything to help, Massa deserve that title and everybody agree
It’s different. Crash Gate was planned by the Renault team, not the FIA. Singapore 2008 can be considered an instance of cheating by a specific team, but it’s totally different from AD 2021, which was manipulated by the FIA-the supposed governing body-by breaking its own rules. Yes, Massa deserved to win the title that year, but so did Lewis, and he won it fair and square on the track
Massa wow legend but hamo abbreviation say nothing lewis 😎🥦
what
Hamilton marketing strategy for F1, nothing more.
Timo Glock certainly let all of the worlds racing fans down. Massa was such a more mature charismatic person and a much better ambassador for the sport.
Bruh, literally not his fault… he had a different set of tires, so stop blaming him for smth he had little to no control over. Anyway, Lewis would still have won 6 other championships. Stop crying. It happened. So accept it. F1 is about who’s the best racer, not the best ‘ambassador.’ Go watch smth else if you’re into that.
What a stupid comment. 😂
Better ambassador who is still salty so many years later because he didn’t win the WDC. Yes he was close and yes he was a very good driver but the reality is that he lost and you can’t punish everyone for what 1 team did. Should the 2019 season be removed because Ferrari cheated in most races by having higher fuel flow than was allowed but cheated the sensor(the sensor is there for control but even if the sensor clears them it is still illegal because the rules didn’t state you had to have a reading of the sensor of x fuel flow but that the actual fuel flow couldn’t be above x.
Timo Glock was in a worse car and on much worse tires. If Timo had been on other tires that means he would have pitted and already been behind Lewis. Do you want f1 to be a race between 2 cars so less people can interfere unwillingly? Yes what a fun sport that would make
@@thurbine2411 AD21 basically answered your question
Sorry there is simply no way Lewis hasn’t watched that before
Man Hamilton really had the chance with this interview. He comes over as very likable until 4:00 when he starts putting his victim hat on again and going on about how everything is a conspiracy against him. He’s definitely a f1 champion, but this guy just doesn’t have a champion personality 🤦♂️
Cool fkn story bro you want a hug?
Stop moaning. What is wrong in saying that? He said it was manipulated and then clarified as in a decision someone made which is true. He didnt say anything about a conspirecy against him or max not deserving it. He was incredibly classy and mature right after abu dhabi 2021 but you cant seriously expect him to completly accept how it happend. Anybody who lost a title like that would be upset.
Besides he didnt bring that up out of the blue did he? He was asked about it and said how he felt. Not really putting a victim hat just answering the question
What a stupid answer and Analysis...really. you just wrote what u heard on yr head and not what was said....
@@sixtenallingersandgren6674💯% DITTO! 🎯👌
a SENSIBLE response to a STUPID comment!
👏👏👏 🤝 😉
Keep crying Lewis... No 8 for you .. field filler...
RENT FREE 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Prince4851 why? Schumi was always my Champion....and now we have our Fellow country man.... All you guys have is a medium driver in a european car... Life is good...
Such an looser must be your life man, your driver never gonna catch lewis or Schumacher but you still defend that piece of garbage
@@666botho boy thinks Schumacher is a saint as if he didnt do shady shit to get his titles lmao. Keep your bias & do more research kid
@@666botho Get a life Loool 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This one wasn't manipulated by anybody. * cough cough Singapore GP Crashgate cough cough *
that wasn't something that happened to benefit Felipe or Lewis so what we can do ignore it for the championship question
Real formula 1 heroes, real men. Not like the soyboy gamer generation we have now
Sorry there is simply no way Lewis hasn’t watched that before