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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2015
- I bought a pair of the ESCs off eBay but they only had a basic description and nothing telling me how the 'brake' feature works so I rigged up a simple test to find out. UPDATE Dec 2016 - NEW VIDEO WITH MORE DETAIL HERE Forward Brake Reverse Cheap RC ESC • Forward Brake Reverse ... basically if your transmitter is like my FS-T4B you don't get the full range of movement and you cannot go far enough into the reverse throw to unlock the brake. You can try moving your trim all the way and that might get you there. If you have a transmitter with more features your can probably adjust it far enough to work. If you use a pistol grip type transmitter with the trigger automatically centring then it probably will work OK anyway. What I have found on eBay many of the sellers are now selling the same ESC but with a micro-switch that allows you to turn off the brake anyway.
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10A Brushed ESC Two-Way Motor Speed Controller With Brake
FlySky FS-T4B transmitter Receiver
In reply to another comment here is the sequence I followed to bind the receiver to the transmitter
FIRST switch OFF receiver and transmitter
Check you know where the BIND plug should go on the receiver
Insert BIND plug in the BIND position on the receiver (still switched OFF)
Press and hold the BIND button on the transmitter
With your finger STILL on the BIND button, switch on the transmitter
Take your finger off the BIND button
Now switch ON the receiver
The light should go steady
Switch OFF the receiver
Switch OFF the transmitter
REMOVE the BIND plug from the receiver
Switch ON the transmitter
Switch ON the receiver
They should now be working.
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why did you even make and upload this video ??
I made it to help people as you will see in the comments here. Why did you even make and upload your comment?
GrandadIsAnOldMan, thank you for the explanation of the braking effect, I already thought that I have a defective controller.
The braking effect will be noticeable if you attach a massive flywheel to the motor shaft. When you move the handle from the forward to the neutral the flywheel rotates by inertia, if you move from the forward to the reverse - the flywheel stops quickly.
Thanks helped me.... I don't know why the arm chair expert even bothered to watch.
Thanks, all comments are welcome, if I find them offensive I can always delete them, but I don't claim to be an expert, I just share my experience, so there will always be people who know better 😊
i miss the esc's in the 1980's , you could reverse when you wanted to, it was amazing.
Just looking at using these ESC's now for the first time.
Normally use robotic controllers.
Very interesting.
They are relatively cheap, or at least basic ones like these are 👍
the switch on the board is to activate or deactivate the braking.
That’s my problem, I can’t get my switch to activate the drag brake
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the delay is because you are using it with a single cell LiPo (not enough voltage, only 3.7v), it is going into low voltage cutoff (the LED on the ESC turns off). if you overdischarge the single cell lipo you will damage it. you need a 2 cell LiPo battery, for 7.4v. (it says in the instructions).
insanitybiker you may be right. I just used the single cell so I could cram it all into the little car in the associated video scheduled to be published tomorrow. I may test it with a 2s to see if it makes any difference. If I put it in a boat than it will definitely have a bigger battery.
Can a 1s 7.4v lipo work?
Clyde Bounpheng 1s cant be 7.4volts. Its 2s and yes they works with this esc
My thing that I just got in the mail today the same thing without brake is blinking on the ESC on the receiver and it is not solid light how do I fix that very stressful and I just got it in the mail today please help any advice is helpful so I can fix it
Have you bound the receiver to your controller first? There is more information in the video description.
Thanks for this vid! You helped me with my DIY project :)
Glad I could help!
I would guess that the delay between forward & reverse is to protect gearing & the like from being damaged with a sudden change from one to the other, thus a break between forward & reverse. As far as breaking a vehicle, a lot of ESC’s brake in each direction as input power drops (throttle control.)
You will find more information in the video description including a link to the followup video 👍
U should get the NO BRAKE version for this ESC. Aliexpress is the way to get one of these.
My question :
Can u use this ESC with 3S liPo??? The spec says it just support up to 2S. I just wander if i can use 3S in this ESC. TQ.
+OokTiaopi I am sure you can use a 3S as long as you do not expect it to last for very long. After a while it will start smoking as the mosfet or whatever they have used as a power transistor overheats and burns out. I have a video on one I burned out a while ago when I got it wet but I think I was also using it with a 3S at the time ruclips.net/video/BEp7hsX9-Fc/видео.html
As for buying an ESC with no brake, I have several. The point of this video is what I stated in the description. There are no instructions supplied with the ESC to explain how it works or what it's features are.
You might be able to program the ESC, but you would need manufacturer instructions to do that.
Normally works by going straight from forward to reverse will apply a brake, then centre and reverse to get it to move in reverse. The logic behind this is so you dont damage/overload the drive train going straight from forwards drive to reverse drive.
I can't say that is how you ECU should work as it may be different or some sort of time delay before reverse can be accessed.
WD-40 thanks for the comment. Yes it would have been handy if there were instructions in the package but as with many of the cheap items from China on eBay the paperwork is fairly minimal.
I did have a look for you, and found a thread on a forum with somebody asking a similar question about the same ECU, but there was no real (good) information. You can have a read here, somebody does mention a time delay www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2202331
Its intentional to stop the esc going straight into reverse from full speed forward which would be a very bad thing to do for obvious reasons.
If you could engage reverse gear going forward at 70mph on the motorway.. What do you think would happen when you released the clutch?
That is fine if you want that function. 99% of the time I specifically do NOT want that function. The ESCs these sellers tend to sell now (This video was uploaded in 2015) have a simple switch on them allowing you to manually select the function if you want it. However the problem is exacerbated by an issue with the FlySky FST4B controller that I am using in this video. You need to have a greater range or throw on the throttle stick to effectively activate and deactivate the brake. This is the follow follow up video ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html basically if your transmitter is like my FS-T4B you don't get the full range of movement and you cannot go far enough into the reverse throw to unlock the brake. You can try moving your trim all the way and that might get you there. If you have a transmitter with more features your can probably adjust it far enough to work. If you use a pistol grip type transmitter with the trigger automatically centring then it probably will work OK anyway. What I have found on eBay many of the sellers are now selling the same ESC but with a micro-switch that allows you to turn off the brake anyway.
.Yes, I can see that would be important if you have an application where this does not matter.
Regarding Tx stick throws.... Maybe you need esc calibration? You can calibrate most escs to see the end points of your Tx. Simply put the tx throttle to max throw (or whatever range you req) plug in the lipo to the esc, then lower the throttle to min point. (or whatever range you require) You should hear a series of different beeps, then calibration is complete, unplug your battery.
Not sure if that would be useful to you or not but thought it might be worth mentioning in case you didnt know.
If you are referring to the reverse throttle percentage being set to a far lower percentage than forward in which case only a fully programable esc would be an option for you.
Cheers.
I have just desinged my own ESC for brushed motors on Arduino, there is always a delay but probably you can program it for faster resposne, faster and more precise resposne = more work and calibration but this has to be cheap so I am not surprised. Is there a microcontroller on that circuitboard? Can you post it in the comment I wanted to know what ICs they are using, thanks.
Here is a video where I do some closer shots of the chips and you will see they have no numbers on them ruclips.net/video/mnLcWEUvpVs/видео.html
Chinese are smart :/ They do it on purpose so I can't copy it but I will find out some how anyway 😈
Thanks anyway :)
the brake applies when you turn from forward to backward immediately.
Putting the brake on is not the problem, getting it to reset or release is the problem. If you check the video description there is a link to an associated video on this subject.
How it is operating both forward and reverse?
Are you asking how radio control works? This is an ESC - Electronic Speed Controller - the circuit recognises the signals sent to it by the radio receiver and it acts accordingly. If the signal say "go forwards" then it sends the power in the direction that will make the motor turn forwards. If the signal says "go backwards" then is sends the power to make the motor turn backwards. It varies the speed of the motor using "Pulse Width Modulation". You may want to google that for a description of how that works. You might find these videos on the basics of Radio Control helpful - FliteTest RC Planes - beginners series ruclips.net/p/PL6IuSFWz4ktvupu_gxw1vn-sjBGOkJFHV
Your video solved the doubts in my mind about it
Glad it helped. There is more information in the video description 👍
When you go from forwards to reverse because the motor is allready spinning the wrong way there is a high current demand, this is probably drawing the battery voltage down to the point where the esc is going into battery protect mode as allready mentioned.
A 2 cell would probably work better.
I dont think the brake is working, I'd exepct the motor to spin round with the intertia when the brake comes on.
The brake might not be enabled, you can get programming cards for esc's, a little credit card size gizmo with buttons on, you set up the options you want then press program, there are other options than the brake too.
sean doofer you may be right. I just used the single cell so I could cram it all into the little car in the associated video scheduled to be published tomorrow. I may test it with a 2s to see if it makes any difference. If I put it in a boat than it will definitely have a bigger battery.
GrandadIsAnOldMan There may be some truth in catalin's comments, car esc's usually have a heatsink, this esc to give its full output might need airflow over it, as you'd get in a plane, it'd probably be ok on a smaller motor, or if your putting it on a fan car just put the esc in the wash from the prop.
hellcattanks we will find out if it overheats. I don't intend this to be used with high power situations, you may have noticed I don't do that sort of thing on my channel. If you look at the paperwork at 04:56 you will see it states it is for cars, boats and tanks.
The brake effect is used on rc cars and it is basicly put in so you brake instead of going backwards which helps in drifting from my expiriamce to not use the break effect dont go straight back stop for a second and then try its hard to explain writing so sorry if this dosnt make any sens
rc reviews thanks, it sounds like you have some experience with this. I found it amusing to google it and see how totally confused people seem to be. Some people apparently use a brake effect on planes to stop the prop and give reasons to justify this, but I am not an RC plane person and the reasoning doesn't make sense to me - not saying it is wrong, I just don't understand the explanations. From reading other forum answers it seems that on a brushed ESC it simply puts a short circuit across the motor and that has the effect of slowing the motor quickly due to the electromagnetic effect of the current induced by the motor spinning. Some dump the current generated back into the battery. I assume that the ESC has to recognise when to brake by interpreting speed that you move the throttle lever. Slowly would indicate no brake required, fast would indicate brake is required and if the brake is used it must need some delay or other action before releasing the brake. It seemed to me a little touch of forward released it.
Well there is no sens using this in rc planes since they shouldnt have a reverse gear anyway and to make the prop on a plane stop you just cut the throttle. I have a bit of expirience since I have 2 rc cars that have the break mechanism and I didnt get that much into the mechanics because it wasnt interesting to me. When I first came acrotss it I just thought it was sort of cool and usefull with fast cars traveling on sharp corners
rc reviews the thing about the props was to get them to align for safe landings, but as I say that is for plane enthusiasts to discuss and not really relevant to what I am doing here. The other forums I read were very much about drifting cars and the debate over whether it helped or not. For example on slippery corners you definitely didn't want the brake to work or you just spin out, so you needed programmable braking. Thanks again for taking the time to comment.
Thanks for making videos every day and good night
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Thanks, mine did not come with any instructions. They called it a winch controller...but it is just an ESC that can be used for may applications.
Thanks, a very helpful video, was going to use on a tank turret, guess I'll keep looking
This is an old video, most of these generic 20A brushed motor ESCs now come with a switch that allows you to switch the brake effect off.
Hi, yes bought one off ebay for a fiver, tested it tonight on the turret of an old Tamiya King Tiger Tank with brake off and it works perfectly, thanks
@@geoffg46 hey, that is brilliant. Glad it worked out for you 👍😁
What motor did you use to connect to the ESC Controller? Been looking into getting one of the ESC but cant seem to find a motor that will simply plug n' go with that ESC
You would need to buy some suitable connectors to solder to the motor leads or cut the connector off the ESC lead and solder it direct to the motor. If you look closely at the video, I have just temporarily pushed the motor wires into the ESC connector, that is not a permanent fix, just a quick fix so I could make the video.
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan Oh ok cool! Thanks for the help!
Auto brake on ESC means if you hit on somethingh with props the motor will automaticly stop rotating.It is protection for the motor to prevent to burn out.Sorry for my bad englis.I will put you link with guy that explains what it is...
Thank you for commenting. Unfortunately you are talking about a different ESC and brake. You would not use the ESC in this video unless you intend to fly your plane forwards and BACKWARDS. The brake on this ESC is activated when you push the throttle into REVERSE and the ESC is for BRUSHED motors. The zero throttle position is the mid point of the throttle stick and it used for BOATS or CARS.
I have a similar esc from eBay. Came with no instructions. I wanted to know what the micro switch on the esc itself does. Contacted seller but no reply! If anyone knows, I would appreciate some help. Thanks.
The switch on these is for the brake option. In many cases you don't want a brake option so you just switch it off.
Second reply. Just to add, on some ESC's there was a similar switch or jumper to select LiPo or NiMh battery because of the different voltage.
Mine buzzes when i go reverse and it delays as well. My ebay esc has fins on it. I am using a 16000mah Lipo too so not a power issue.
I have problems with mine , the eac don't brake I use the radiolink rc4gs transmitter with receiver please help only goes eeverse
I did a follow up video with a bit more detail, that might help you ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html you will always find more information in my video descriptions.
Is there a way to turn off the reverse and to recalibrate this ESC or just to remove the reverse function? I want to use it for the plane.
There is no simple switch to operate and there is no programming interface. These are so cheap it would be easier to buy one that does not offer the reverse function. From a practical point of view I found the brake feature means that you cannot go straight into reverse anyway. If you are going forwards and then pull your throttle straight back to reverse, the motor is cut by the brake and you have to centre the throttle before reverse can be selected. If you specifically want to use this type of ESC and want to make some sort of electrical modification to it then I would suggest you find an RC forum and ask the question there as those forums have experts who are experienced on modifying equipment.
thank you for showing the intruction paper. mine didnt came with any instruction i didnt know witch wire was witch.
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grandad what kind of transmitter and reciever are you using
Paul Miguel Peteza The radio control transmitter and receiver listing www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190888163364
thanks grandad
Hi mate .
Put your transmitter and reciver on, then turn off your reciver off, wait 2/3 seconds and turn your reciver on again. Problem solved? Thanks 🚗🚗🎉🇵🇹
Um, no. If you read the video description I explain the situation.
I see your ESC has only 2 wires for a brushed dc motor. I thought they all had 3 wires.
The 3rd wire gives the signal for the better control of the motor , I guess. I'm getting into rc, but still have many questions!
If you are interested in learning about RC I can recommend the FliteTest RC Planes - beginners series ruclips.net/p/PL6IuSFWz4ktvupu_gxw1vn-sjBGOkJFHV even if you are not interested in aircraft the information in their series is still worth watching as it covers all RC components including ESCs. 3 wired ESCs are for brushless motors. Brushed motors are controlled by the ESC using PWM and that is done with 2 wires.
How did you program it
This does not have a programmable feature.
Makes more since for airplanes i beleive. If your transmitter and receiver set up have no throttle trim then these may be stuck on low volt apply???. Theory I heard was they can be set to keep at low rpm while lets say gliding and this low rpm movement actually creates less wind drag in addition to keepin the propeller from bending backwards...idk..fact..fake..but using a 30A in a crawler and i have no complaints. Metal gears on my rig so im not exactly flying between F-R. Lol. Plus i have the Throttle trim so i can set it to not apply and have not had issues. And occasionally comes in handy if i really wanted to set it at snail pace and just tackle the steering it just goes...
True marlin style...lol
Hi, thanks for commenting. You wouldn't use this ESC on an airplane as you really don't want to go into reverse whilst flying. This is an old video (2015). Now, most of these cheap generic ESCs have a switch on them so you have the choice to switch the brake option on or off. Occasionally I switch it on if I am worried about the plastic gears, when I have converted a toy grade car to hobby grade and increased the battery power.
I have bought similar esc for my RC crawler. I connected it to 2s lipo and receiver but motors are running continuously with no control over them. I can steer front wheels right or left but absolutely no control over the motors. Its like they ESC is keep running them. Help
Buy yourself a cheap servo tester and use that to control the ESC. That way you will know if you have a problem with your receiver or you ESC. DO you have the right type of ESC for your motor - brushed - brushless ?
I bought it for my 130size Brushed motor. When i connect Battery > ESC > Motor - motor is spinning constantly. Connecting receiver or servo tester has no affect on motor.
Rx is getting power through the esc because other servos are working.
I try to use my 10a esc and the output connector always has voltage, if I connect a motor it turns always, when apply reverse throttle motor still spinning in the same direction slower, but not in reverse direction.
Any idea?
Maybe it is an ESC that does not have a reverse option. For example ESCs for aircraft don't have a reverse option.
Finally the problem was a incorrect manual supplied with the esc
pls test if the esc works if it is connected to two CR2032[3v] batteries connected in series[=6v].i dont have a 1s or 2s battery.
Technically yes it will work as you have the voltage but practically you are wasting your time as those cells will not have the capacity (current) to power a motor. You can use normal AA batteries, 4 linked in series will give you 6 volts and more current that CR2032s
Very cool
Is there a way to fix this? Bought a new ESC for my Car, and the braking and going back to neutral and then back to reverse is annoying when taking fast turns. Especially since the braking is slow and i crash into think easily. Reversing is a much better brake. How do i fix it? do i need a new ESC?
If your ESC is programmable you can change it via the programming card. Alternatively your ESC may have a manual switch that you can select the options. If it is neither of the above than as far as I know your only option is to buy an ESC with no brake. There may be an electrical hack you can do to the circuit board. It might be worth searching the RC Forums to see if anybody has done that.
hi and thanku for replying. All that is on my esc is 6 pins that i can shorten with something that came with it. Cant find a manual for it. its a bdesc s10e rtr
***** I was going to suggest this link, but I can see you have already commented on it about a year ago ruclips.net/video/exsLjyCGC5I/видео.html so I looked online to see what I could find and the pictures I saw only indicated you could select "forwards and brake" or "forwards brake and reverse" with no option for "No Brake". There was no manual, just the pictures printed on the side of the ESC to show the peg positions. The main problem of having no brake on a car is you could put too much strain on the gearbox by going straight into reverse.
Oh okey, thank you man! Ill be looking for a lipo and a new esc then, thanks. haha i commented on it how random. ye iknow the deal with braking, but on my last esc, the original one, i had no brakes.. it caught fire driving on snow but ye.. ahha
Im more so lost with my esc I hit forward and sometimes the car don't move but I hit reverse and it takes off other times its the complete opposite but after a bit the car works fine.Any suggestions?
Michael David Cilantro I think you will have to Google a full answer, but with this ESC I found that if I try to go straight from forwards to reverse it 'brakes' and I have to go forwards again before it will go backwards. If I reduce speed gently and go into reverse it goes straight through without 'braking'.
Yeah I think its the braking system hopefully over time they get them more accurate.
Michael David Cilantro if you bought the same one I have, cheap chinese eBay item than I doubt you will get any different for the price. You can get more expensive ones with programmable braking effects or you can get ESCs without the brake effect and those will go straight from forward to reverse and back again. I just bought a couple with no brake for a boat I will be steering by using twin motors so I need to be able to reverse thrust instantly.
Instead of that round motor if there will be 180 dc brushed motor and instead of 3.7v battery if there will be a 7.4v battery then the thrust produced by the motor shall be enough to fly a small rc plane???
This video is just demonstrating the brake effect on the ESC and there is an updated version with more information here ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html
I am stuck using this ESC, by any chance do u know how to calibrate it?
As far as I know there is no calibration feature for these cheap ESCs.
Is there a way to program this function using one of the auxiliary switches?
You have lost me, what auxiliary switches. Do you mean on the transmitter? This is the follow up video ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html basically if your transmitter is like my FS-T4B you don't get the full range of movement and you cannot go far enough into the reverse throw to unlock the brake. You can try moving your trim all the way and that might get you there. If you have a transmitter with more features your can probably adjust it far enough to work. If you use a pistol grip type transmitter with the trigger automatically centring then it probably will work OK anyway. What I have found on eBay many of the sellers are now selling the same ESC but with a micro-switch that allows you to turn off the brake anyway.
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan oh I'm sorry yes I have the flysky i6 and it has aux switches as channel 5 and 6
how can i put the revers on forward? only with wires? or can i program this?
If your ESC gives you forward and reverse, then you can select it on your transmitter. If your ESC does not have that option then the only way the motor will go backwards is if you reverse the wires (assuming it is a brushed motor)
i reverse the wires its work... but some times its not work...... like your video...
For what i recieved esc.. the motor is running by its own... pls can i ask help to you what should i do to make it run by remote
I don't understand your question. Do you mean you have plugged the ESC into a battery and the motor starts running straight away without being connected to the RC receiver? That sounds like a faulty ESC to me.
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan i do same connections that you make. Even the switch is off the motor is running. What is the good esc that fit's in 10/16 rc...
My remote is Radiolink RC6GS , receiver is R6FG Gyro
My RC is WPL B16.
That is a problem with some ESCs and you have to ensure you have the transmitter switched ON and the throttle set to zero before you connect the battery to the ESC. Some Receivers have a failsafe option that ensures the motor cannot be switched on until the transmitter is switched on and the throttle is zeroed. I mention it in this video ruclips.net/video/OX3vNh5NL8Y/видео.html
Thanks for the video Sir..
Thank you for watching
the delay is because when you go forward and then want to brake you push the stick down and you just want it to brake not directly go backwards.. I have a programable remote (Flysky FS-I6) and I cannot for the life of me get it to go backwards.. I guess my ESC is just bad.. at idle it goes 50% speed and down makes it stop while up gives it 100% speed
Did you checkout the follow-up video linked in the video description? ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html
my ESC is one way only (for planes) .. my fault i'm a noob and bought it in a hurry before doing research.. my fault my loss .. the two way takes one month to ship here so I guess my son will have to wait.. unless I find a way to reverse motor polarity using a relay and a toggle from the remote.. @@GrandadIsAnOldMan
@@jaxxrr Ahh! I see what you mean 😮 Bad luck.
I strongly believe that's a airplane esc. I remember from when I was in this hobby that you can't properly use this kind of esc for rc cars/boats. And it doesn't have any heatsink, it may be only 10A and small but still does heat. (Wich kinda confirm my theory). And that brake option was to slow down the propeller slowly without breaking it.
Catalin Ionut thanks for the reply. If you look at the paperwork at 04:56 you will see it is for cars, boats and tanks.
GrandadIsAnOldMan Aeroplane ESC would definitely not have reverse, some do have brakes for the like of gliders with folding props or like my RC pargliders that need a prop brake, so lines don't get caught when landing.
Hey!
I have the exact same problem on the exact ESC. I would really appreciate it if you could tell me how you resolved it as its deiving me crazy.
Thank you
This is the follow up video ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html basically if your transmitter is like my FS-T4B you don't get the full range of movement and you cannot go far enough into the reverse throw to unlock the brake. You can try moving your trim all the way and that might get you there. If you have a transmitter with more features your can probably adjust it far enough to work. If you use a pistol grip type transmitter with the trigger automatically centring then it probably will work OK anyway. What I have found on eBay many of the sellers are now selling the same ESC but with a micro-switch that allows you to turn off the brake anyway.
Hey bro what battery should I buy for it
That depends on what you want to motor you want to drive. That ESC is a 10A 2S so it uses a 7.4 volt battery and will run a fairly small brushed motor like the one in the video. For a larger motor you would need a higher 'A'. The ESC provides a separate supply to power the receiver at 5 volts. If you are new to RC then I can recommend you watch the FliteTest RC Planes - beginners series. It is aimed at model aircraft but the RC information is also relevant to cars and boats ruclips.net/p/PL6IuSFWz4ktvupu_gxw1vn-sjBGOkJFHV
instead of connecting the receiver can i connect potentiometer and use it like that
Assuming you mean to control the ESC then the answer is NO but if you bought a cheap servo tester (about a dollar) you could control it with that. There is a link in the video description for the follow up video where I demonstrate one - here it is ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html and here is one of my postbag videos on the subject of servo testers ruclips.net/video/fbsJZu-8hYs/видео.html
Can you calibrate the esc?
Not as far as I know.
its Forward, Brake, and Reverse. Logical thinking, why would u wanna reverse ur props while flying ?
given this is a cheap ESC, this setup is quite good enough.
This is for demonstration purposes. In the years that have past since making this video they seem to have added a simple switch on this range so you can switch off the brake effect.
"why would you want to reverse your props while flying" - to stop flying. In other words, short landings.
Deus do ceu, como você calibrou este bendito ESC ???? ( Deus do ceu, como você calibrou este bendito ESC ???)
I’ve got iff to all hooked up bug the motor isn’t working or the servo
Does the motor work if you connect a battery direct to it?
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan it wasn’t but it’s working now the voltage was too small I added the highest recommended voltage works fine
@@piotro1201 so it all works now?
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan thanks for the quick reply tho
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan yes I haven’t fitted it on my rc yet but it works now
Will this be good for an airplane esc ?
Well it would certainly work if you are using a brushed motor, HOWEVER you might find the fact it gives you FORWARD and REVERSE is a bit of a drawback after all reverse is not usually used when flying.
GrandadIsAnOldMan hmm maybe I’ll try not to hit reverse lol , I want to use hubsan h502e 8520 brushed motors that turn a 5.5 inch propeller with a pinion and ring gearbox , the motor /gear /propeller assembly weights only 10 grams and it operates on 2s lipo , I did a rough thrust test and measured over 80grams thrust coming from this set up so I need myself a 10amp brushed esc with no active motor braking , I would like to install it onto a wing or a small plane .
@@thelongranger55 If your transmitter has suitable trimming you could just tell it that there is no reverse but you will only have half the throttle range you would get with the proper ESC. At the price it might be worth a try but I am pretty sure a bit more searching online would find you the proper aircraft type ESC. Good luck.
GrandadIsAnOldMan thanks , I have a brushed motor that turns a gear box for a 5.5 inch propeller it’s a 8520 2s 7.4 volt brushed motor and it produces more then 80 grams of thrust with a total weight of just 10grams , so it would be a good power system for a micro rc plane or wing
Your battery might be dead on the receiver Maybe that's only thing I can think of
The problem is the transmitter does not give the full "throws". The ESC needs to see full throttle in reverse but the FlySky FS-T2B seems to be trimmed back to prevent full range. If you push the trim all the way and then try you can just about get to the trigger point. Here is a follow up video from 2016 ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html If you use a different transmitter that has the full range or one of those pistol grip type designed for cars you will probably find it works fine. I have used other transmitters and had success.
That's the brake function so you can't just trow it straight into reverse
Yes, so not much use for an aircraft or a boat. However that is not the point. There is no information explaining how the feature works. The problem with buying cheap items on eBay is they very rarely come with any instructions or description of the features. With my FlySky FST4B transmitter it is almost impossible to get the full benefit of the brake feature as the range do not travel far enough to work it through it's sequence. You will see in my video description I have done a second video on this subject.
GrandadIsAnOldMan they are designed for boats or cars but definitely no good for aircraft lol
You will find that they do use the brake function on model aircraft, you will find discussion on that subject on RC forums. The point I am trying to make is there is no information supplied on HOW they work, not what they do. I know what they do. On the pistol grip type RC car transmitters they tend to have a spring mounted self centring trigger. For the brake you move the throttle from forward to reverse, you get the brake. As far as I can tell most rc car drivers would then allow the trigger to spring back to the middle. If you try that manually with the FlySky FST4B you will see trying to find the midpoint to release the brake is not easy so you end up going forward again. In addition, if you move the throttle fully to reverse from forwards, the brake operates and then as you ease it forwards slightly you get full reverse without having to go to the mid point however on the FlySky FSt4B with the limited throttle range the full reverse range is not the full reverse the ESC is looking for so it does not set properly. I am guessing you have probably only used pistol grip transmitters or other transmitters that are not like the "bottom or the range" FlySky FST4B with the limited throttle range.
GrandadIsAnOldMan easy answer is its because it's a cheap chinese one was looking around for something like it but better quality and with the ability to turn off the brake function and best I could find that wasn't overly pricey was on eBay item no 201731828799 and it's brilliant
Don't be confused by brand names, a lot of the branded goods are still made in China and probably in exactly the same factory as the stuff you buy unbranded on eBay. The one you linked to is far bigger than I needed for the project I was working on. Another annoying fact it that in the cheap range I was looking at, the ESCs with brakes were cheaper than the ESCs without brakes so when I am doing my usual "buy the cheapest item available" I would be forced to pay more if I DIDN'T want the brake and that didn't seem to make sense until you realise it is a simple "supply and demand" process on eBay so the more popular items are driven down in price as the sellers fight to corner the market. The next step with the cheaper "brake" version would be to try to disable the brake facility so I searched the RC forums but had no luck.
the delay is the break.
+the village idiot the point of the video is I am explaining that there is no documentation with the ESC to tell you what is going on so I am having to test it to see what happens. As far as I can tell if you go direct from forward to reverse the brake is implemented and you get no reverse until you go back to the mid-point. There is no delay here as far as I can tell, certainly not the sort of short delay that might reset the brake after a few milliseconds or even seconds. For that matter as far as I can tell there is no noticeable braking effect either, just no reverse.
+GrandadIsAnOldMan ill have to keep in mind. im thinking of putting one in a toy grade rc car.
the village idiot here is a conversion I did recently ruclips.net/video/uM7Obu2wnKA/видео.html
B R A K E ! Learn the difference between "Brake" and "Break"
Maybe try to swipe it back twice
You will find the link to the follow on video in the video description - here it is ruclips.net/video/LkbzKIt10qc/видео.html - the main problem is using that particular transmitter FS-T4B. If you have a "pistol grip" style transmitter then the throttle control is usually set up to deal with this type of ESC anyway.
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan hello sir.. im using fs gt3c it still have this problem.. i have to triger reverse twice to brake.. i endup crashing all the time
@@snap_fit8686 you may need to trim your throttle settings. If that doesn't help you may need to buy a more expensive ESC that is more reliable.
@@GrandadIsAnOldMan yes i think i do.. 😊
The brake is just the moters going backward
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