Anne Elliott is such a unique character. She is humble, quiet, introverted. She does everything for others. Why is everyone taking these beloved female characters and trying to make them fiesty? Persuasion is my favourite novel. This doesn't fit the tone of the novel at all. It feels like they are trying to make it a comedy. Why can't they just leave a great story as it is. It is beloved for a reason. What is so wrong with being humble, sincere and quiet as a woman? Not every female alive has to be feisty.
Exactly! Miss Anne Elliot was a self-representation for me in this world of sassy and fiesty characters, I was waiting for this movie so much and then I got this. Feel a little dumbfounded.
It always seems strange to me when writers decide "I think *I*, incredible writer that I am, can improve on this iconic character written by a highly respected and celebrated author, and the generations of people who have loved this story for years will surely like that I fundamentally changed everything about the character."
I'm so glad someone got paid for: "Now we're worse than exes, we're friends" The biggest eye roll in the world doesn't do it justice! Why change something so beautiful and insightful. What Austen actually wrote is, "“There could have never been two hearts so open, no tastes so similar, no feelings so in unison, no countenances so beloved. Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted. It was a perpetual estrangement.”
It's basically what is wrong with this adaptation in a nutshell. It has a distinct quirky feel of 2020 Emma with a splash of Bridgerton and that's just not... it.
The comment section absolutely passed the vibe check. I went there expecting to find people fawning over the Regency-era setting and Dakota Johnson. Instead, I find deep, thoughtful analyses and critiques, probably better than I could've found anywhere else. Jane Austen would've been proud :)
@Z S - don't you? Obviously never read an Austin novel nor deigned to peruse her biography. Jane WOULD be tickled that she is still relevant and beloved by fans who defend her. NETFLIX SUCKS. Watch the BBC Sally Hawkins version. The vampires at Netflix deserve an Upper Decker.
I agree with a lot of the comments here. Female empowerment is not about replacing every introverted female character with a “sassy” personality. I want to see more representation of quiet and sincere women that I can actually relate to😭
The irony is that Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' contains some fascinating and pertinent discussions about the perceptions of women back in her day. They could have had a field day exploring those. They didn't need this wishy-washy modernist travesty.
Yes. It gives the implication that you can't be a strong empowered woman unless your sassy eith everyone. The thing that's ridiculous is that Anne actually was a strong and empowered woman. She knew she had made a mistake and when given a second chance she stepped out, took the opportunity, and embraced the life she wanted. That's empowering in any time, but especially during the age. She also learned to stand up to her family and for herself by the end of the story, and she did it her own way, without being sassy.
this comment and along with the replies. I’m really like really sick of seeing women being that sassy, quirky, and badass trope. Like, women can be strong with mind, knowledge, wise, and even if they are introverted, quiet, or a shy type, they can be strong and put you in your place when they want to. You don’t always have to be that mean or sassy girl to be strong.
'Now we are worse than exes - We are friends' ????? When do Anne and Wentworth become friends after their separation?? They skirt around each other awkwardly for the entire book until the gravity of their feelings is too much and they collide back together in the most romantic scene I have ever read... They exist in the same room for months and barely acknowledge one another and THAT IS THE POINT. Their yearning is too intense for a simple friendship to exist!! Its agony for them to be in the same room together and THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE BOOK SO GOOD.
It really cheapens the pain Anne feels when she’s around Wentworth. It’s agonizing. To me that line is the worse part of the trailer. It’s just so reductive to Anne’s heartbreak.
I know I shouldn't judge this before seeing it, but I agree with the other commenters. If screenwriters don't like Austen's quiet, reserved heroines like Anne and Fanny, why don't they just adapt P&P or Emma instead of turning them into those characters? Introverted women exist and deserve to be seen and loved for who they are, not forced to change into society's idea of what a strong woman should look like. Looks like they made the same mistake as that 90s Mansfield Park.
This is one of my favourite Jane Austen heroines and they completely butchered her. She doesnt look like someone who could be persuaded of anything, she feels rebelious and nothing at all like in the book. I'll stick with Amanda Root's and Sally Hawkins wonderful Anne's interpretations
No! I’m tired of Lizzy being misrepresented. But, you absolutely may judge this before seeing it because we all know the title should be Persuadegerton.
I really didn't like what they did with Mansfield Park (though the film was a hit), but this? It sounds like a nice take, not everything has to be exactly like the book. And, Anne did have a sense of humour about the persons around her, she just didn't show it. I guess the problem here is that there is a very faithful adaption of P&P and several at least halfway faithful adaptations of Emma, but not a single one of Persuasion.
I will never understand Netflix’s decision to make such a quiet, thoughtful, and kind protagonist make snarky remarks in a “Jim from the office” style.
Anne Elliot is a superior woman. She is thoughtful, kind, quiet yet observant, steadfast and of sound principles. She's represented all the introvert women for the past 200 years and shown the world their unimaginable worth. And then Netflix comes along and makes her a loud, sassy, flirt with a big mouth. As if she'd ever say "Wentworth" whilst thinking of him. As if she'd be as vulgar as Mrs. Elton from Emma. Ridiculous.
I agree. Having her cop a squat and pee by a tree while hiding from Louisa and Mr. Wentworth did nothing to move the story forward and was such a betrayal to the style and spirit of the novel. Why all the makeup and red lipstick? Dakota Johnson has beautiful skin and features. They really didn't understand the message of the story. Anne thought she did the wrong thing in "giving up" Wentworth but the audience is supposed to know better. He didn't deserve her until he made his fortune. That was part of the point of the visit to Mrs. Smith. That could have been Anne had she thrown her lot in with Wentworth at a young age and he got killed at sea. She would have been in trouble much like her friend. Wentworth had spent extravagantly and had not saved his money won in the Navy. At his age it didn't look good for him to win more but of course he did and by then he learned to save. Mrs. Russel was right to encourage Anne to give him up. Part of the reason he made so much money was daring and it is difficult to be daring if you know your death could leave your wife widowed with nothing. Mrs Russell wasn't wrong to encourage her to break off the engagement and Anne wasn't wrong to listen to her elders. To think Austen meant to ignore your elders they have no wisdom to offer, is just mad.
Anne’s strength is her quiet, consistency. She is intelligent and thoughtful. Altering her character for modern sensibilities is insulting not only to Austin’s character but to modern audiences. There are many “Anne’s” in this world they and deserve to be valued for who they are and the enrichment they bring to all. Persuasion is my favorite of Austen’s novel. Unfortunately this looks to be another instance of the “title and names are unchanged but the characters are missing.” Looks like another Mansfield Park.
Persuasion is my favorite as well and the only way to experience the real Anne is to read the book. Everything else is an interpretation. She left us with so few pieces of her work, so when it comes to Austen, my opinion will always be the more interpretations, the better.
The cinematography is stunning, but they've really done a number on Anne. She's not so flirty an audacious. Poor girl spends most of the book yearning, flitting between agony and hope, and quietly observing everyone. She's sad and faded away since she let the love of her life go eight years ago.
Yes, I'm watching it now and I can't believe what they did to her character. One of the things I love about her character is her transformation from sad dul, to glowing by the time she reaches Bath. You can feel her longing, regret at letting herself be persuaded to leave captain Wentworth. You don't feel that pain with this character. She's cheery from the get go.
But what I love most about Anne is the fact that she isn't mischievous or always dabbling in the affairs of others. She isn't cheeky and always smirking at cameras. She's reserved, calm, and mature. That's not the vibe this is giving.
And that is an essential part of her character, she is older, washed-up and defeated to live a life of serving her family. The whole story is she is given a second chance.
The character you’re describing sounds more interesting to watch than this Jennifer-Lawrence-in-any-role-2010’s crap I’m looking at except with Dakota. I think they try to make women characters written a certain way have no meekness about them whatsoever and end up with these blobs of smirking nonsense
I just watched this film. I am so happy that Jane Austen couldn't live long enough to watch this. The characters and plot are so far removed from her original idea, that she would be appalled to be even remotely associated with this adaptation. Austen's fans: DO NOT WATCH.
Don't worry: I already knew from the words 'new adaptation' that this would depart from the book. I am only shocked at the lengths they have gone to here. Anne pouring liquid on her own head and smearing jam on her upper lip? They need this in order to be funny? Do they think we're too stupid to appreciate Jane Austen's satire and wit?
As someone who haven't read any of her novel, should I watch it? Read all comments and everyone is angry about not doing movie by the book. So for a non-reader and movie lover, is it a good movie ?
@@average3394 No, it's not a good movie. If you just want entertainment, then go ahead and watch. But this is *not* Persuasion by Jane Austen. There are better adaptations that other people have mentioned.
It looks well produced with a good cast, but the whole feel does not fit the story at all. It seems the producers were just keeping up with our times, which detracts from the whole feeling of reading a Jane Austen novel - I want to be transported back in time. I’ll give it a shot, but I’m not expecting much.
@@Shaezi11aGames I wish I could thumbs up this comment a zillion times. I want to be transported back in time as well, so I do want things in an Austen adaptation to be as accurate as possible with a tinge of relatability to make it understandable today. Don't bother to dress in Regency times if you are going to make this a modern take. Just make a modern Persuasion set in the present day and save us all the grief.
This is horrifying. The fleabag style camera looks, Dakota looking beautiful with make up, the way that you can't tell that she has spent the last 8 years miserable and sad and downtrodden while her family treated her as a maid. The longing she and Captain Wentworth had for eachother. Everything that made Persuasion is missing. The 1995 movie version is so good.
@@sandeesandwich2180 I respectfully dispute that assertion and would argue that the 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones is the best adaptation to date. The 1995 version was severely lacking, especially in the chemistry between the main characters - there simply was none - despite a young Ciarán Hinds as Wentworth. The chemistry between Hawkins and Penry-Jones was palpable in every scene they shared, and their sorrow and heartache unmistakably evident in every look, movement, their speech and countenance.
@@meb1879 Honestly having watched the 1995 version like a million times, I feel that the Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds do have chemistry. Its more in the subtle looks they give each other. I feel Anne's pain when she looks at Frederick after coming back from the war, confronted with what she has lost and probably will never have again, trying to resolve herself to life as she knows it now. When Frederick gets upset at the opera (by the way, isn't that the most beautiful opera music you have ever heard?), I really feel his underlying passion towards her and jealously towards William Elliot and Anne. I'm not putting down the 2007 version at all, but in my opinion these two actors really captured the essence of their characters.
I read ALL of Jane Austen’s works and Persuasion is my absolute favourite. I am so excited but I must say this feels like a comedy a little too much. I hope it’s toned down in the movie. The book has a very nostalgic and introspective feel, and the characters were both heavily emotionally impacted by their painful separation years before (I’d say they are almost haunted by it). In the book you can really perceive his resentment and her sadness. She deeply regrets the past and continually wishes she could change it. I would have expected this kind of vibe from a Northanger Abbey’s adaptation (which was written as an actual satire of gothic novels), not a Persuasion one
That was so cringey and not of the time period. I can only imagine that Jane Austen would be rolling in her grave at that line, let alone what Netflix has done to her beautiful work just to make a buck.
@viiont eooiy I think the Masterpiece Theatre adaptation also had her character break the fourth wall but they did it in a way for the audience to see Anne's true emotions and I don't think she ever spoke directly, it was just staring into the camera.
It's a modern adaptation. the director said that all the time. stop being boring, because in the cinema everything is allowed because of art. I liked the new adaptation.
@@beatrizbaia5230 "Modern Adaption" is ironic. The director should have made a Persuasion in the "modern" era then, and not kept it in the Regency period...and then try to modernize the early 1800s, it comes off as a cash grab
being a jane austen fan, i read Persuasion quite recently and it's her best work in my opinion. just exquisite. please let this honor the novel ( wow look at us being collectively enraged. Yet, i won’t not watch it. will I be more enraged after? probably…)
@@thehound9638 agree with you entirely. It seems so far off from the novel. It doesn’t capture the Jane Austen heroine’s essence at all. From the trailer it seems no one can persuade the heroine other than herself
The movie looks like a far cry from the book...Anne's gentle, sad, introverted, and introspective spirit seems to have been replaced with something closer to Elizabeth Bennet's one and this Wentworth seems to wear his emotions much more openly (and with far less resentment) than book Wentworth-- that already strips the text from its strongest components
It just can't.. There's nothing about that Jane Austen atmosphere in this trailer, they just took the plot and messed everything up. I can't imagine a true Jane Austen fan actually agreeing that this is an accurate version..
Well, this has nothing in common with the real Anne from the books. She was a great female character - gentle, but strong in her own way. She was uncertain and made mistake when she was 19, but instead of making it worse by marrying someone else without love, she stayed faithful to her feelings, built strength of character and became the person everyone relies on. She was the quiet power center for her family and friends, never complaining and always ready to give snd help. And in the end these were the qualities that Wentworth recognized. Strength of character and intelligence have many aspects - no need to be a funny and sassy at all costs.
To all period dramas: stop taking Bridgerton as inspiration, especially in the humor. Jane Austen's original language was filled with subtle wit; the jokes here are so painfully obvious and unfunny. Stop modernizing everything. The beauty of Austen lies in the past.
@@Lol98-wk18 Gladly. I realize that someone such as yourself probably thought that Persuasion was the fourth Fifty Shades of Grey movie, but pray don't assume your troglodytic ignorance to be true of everyone. Fix your grammar and learn how to read before trying to develop any semblance of literary understanding and appreciation. Baby steps, dear.
Persuasion is a quiet, intense novel about desperately wishing you could go back and fix the worst mistake of your life. It's meant to be overflowing with longing. It's a slow-build that turns into a pressure cooker as a plain, soft-spoken mouse of a woman tries to wrangle the courage to stand up for herself and what she wants despite enormous pressure from others. It should be moody and aesthetic and this...this is not the tone. They clearly wanted to turn Persuasion into the next Emma, but Emma and Anne have zero in common in the books, and the lessons they have to learn are completely opposite. I don't recognize Anne in this portrayal at all. Did these people even read the novel? I was so excited when I heard about this, but this looks like they don't understand the spirit of the novel or the heroine at all. Hopefully it's just a bad trailer, but this is disappointing.
Exactly! Anne was brainwashed by her narcissistic family into feeling like her purpose was to be invisible and accommodating. But the "Flea-bag" style monologues make her seem like just a more charming kind of narcissist. Bummer!
When I heard there would be an adaptation of Persuasion, I was pretty excited. Watching this, though, I’m… wary. Feels too much like they took comedy vibes from Bridgerton and the 2020 Emma, which I think are inappropriate for the tone of the novel Persuasion, which was more introspective and serious. Will still give it a chance, but I’m not too hopeful
You nailed it! This is totally trying to go for the quirky comedy from the 2020 Emma. But those are two very different stories, from two very different characters. So it feels very off imo.
Same here. Also, at least Emma 2020 got the costumes and the dialogue right - most of the characters here I'm just WHAT ARE YOU WEARING? WHERE'S YOUR BONNET? Ugh.
WE DON’T WANT THIS! We don’t want a cheap chuckle at the expense of character! We want the yearning, dramatic, heart stopping romances from our childhood!
I'm not convinced yet. I feel like Dakota is more playing Elizabeth or Emma than Anne. Anne is more reserved, mature and calm. I don't get the vibes of the novel yet. I feel they are trying to give it the same vibes as the last movie Emma, but I'm not sure it will work for Persuasion.
Jane Austen, in one of her personal letters, spoke of Anne Elliot as “too good for me”. Persuasion was written in the autumn of Austen’s life, at the height of her prowess as an author, featuring arguably her best heroine: long-suffering, consistent, gracious Anne. Anne who lives a passionate and beautiful INWARD life, whose perception pierces through everyone’s pretensions, yet has compassion for everybody’s faults, whose sense of duty and forbearance are so admirable. Netflix just vomited over all of that to cash in with this unimaginative, careless, and pitiful excuse of an adaptation. They could not have done a worse job if they had hated Austen and her final completed novel. They took beautiful Anne and reduced her to a “pick me” girl, a “Not Like Other Girls” girl. 🙄
@@julia_btfl same :’( I think it says something about how close to sublime Persuasion as a novel is that all its readers feel the offence of this “adaptation” so keenly. They treated the masterpiece so poorly. And so condescending to anyone who hasn’t read the book. Like we don’t already have enough “BoSs BaBe” heroines in film and literature and would appreciate the breath of fresh air that is Anne Elliot, whose strength is in her softness.
I couldn't agree more! This is an "adaptation" for gen Z and so called inclusivness, a little bit of This and that thrown in to make it more digestible for the masses.
Nahh how could anyone replace the original beautiful words with “we’re worse than exes, we’re friends” and still sleep soundly at night 🥴 Jane’s rolling in her grave 😩
@@TheMeesa "Now they were as strangers; worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted." How could they call this appalling movie an adaptation? Poor Jane Austen, how could she rest in peace with all the things these people are doing
One of the main points of the novel is that they are not even friends. They act like people who met briefly long ago and now only talk to each other because they socialise with the same people.
I think she is smiling that her story set in the Recency Era of England resonates with people globally in the 21st century. As a writer and an undercover cultural anthropologist she would accept that like social norms, language also evolves. Hence some changes were made by contemporizing the cast and the words, but the plot is no less the same.
Who ever directed and wrote this movie didn't understand the two most important characters. Also the whole point of the story is the uncertaintly of how Captain Wentworth is feeling. This movie left no mystery at all, his feelings are written all over his face.
@@antemiuenteri it's not gatekeeping, they're expressing dissatisfaction in the poor choice of writing in the script. all adaptions modernize the writing from JA's novels but the inclusion of the word ex takes you out of zone of suspension of disbelief. People are allowed their opinions, don't go throwing around buzzwords that don't even fit the situation. the line was irksome to a lot of people not just one.
Yeah, that line makes me think they should’ve just made this a modern retelling. Though from the trailer this Anne doesn’t really seem like the Anne from the novel or other adaptations, she seems more like Lizzie Bennet, as others have noted.
Dakota Johnson basically plays herself in every role she takes on. You can modernize a classic without removing it's heart & soul. Unfortunately, Netflix didn't get the message.
I wished Joe Wright wrote the screenplay. One of my favs has to be Pride and Prejudice. Kiera Knightly would have added so much depth and intrigue to Anne's character.
I did not like the "bewitched" line, but I could accept it for modern audiences sake. I won't say the same for Persuasion (at least according to this trailer).
WHY?! WHY people want so bad to destroy Jane’s masterpiece? Couldn’t Netflix made movie with similar storyline and then turned it into comedy?? Persuasion is definitely the most realistic story that Jane wrote and you made a joke of it. If someone wants to see good Persuasion movie, I recommend the adaptation from *1995* year. That one is THE BEST- but also please read the book!👍🏽
Persuasion is one of Austen's best. This version seems to lose all of the tension from the story, by removing the social restraints that held Dakota Johnson's character back and instead making her seem too independent and world-wise to be persuaded by anyone. So there's no arc for this version of the character to follow, it's just a drawn out will-they-won't-they connecting the dots along a rom-com plot path - at least by the feel of the trailer. The book uses the love story to critique social issues of the time, especially the limitations on a woman's ability to choose anything for herself, which makes the ending uncertain until the lead character alters her previous pattern and breaks away from social pressures to choose the path she prefers but that society forbids for shallow and arbitrarily sexist reasons. It's satisfying not just because she gets her love, but because she's brave, she beats the odds stacked against her, and she puts society in its place instead. Otherwise, this version looks very pretty and Dakota is charming, as usual.
This exactly! I wrote elsewhere in the comments that presenting Anne as fiestier doesn't work for this reason. Lizzie Bennett's growth was to not jump so quickly to assumptions or be prejudiced against people based on minimal interaction. This is why Wickham is able to hoodwink her, even though there are hints in the text that he is not being honest from the jump. Conversely Anne Elliot is more mature and wise, her instincts are sound and based on careful observation (she refuses to accept Mr Elliott's proposal, even though it would solve loads of her problems and everyone she loves is saying "Bitch, you better marry that guy!" because she knows something doesn't add up about him*). Her arc is the opposite of Lizzie's in that she need to learn to trust herself, stand up for herself and put herself first for once. If you combine the best traits of both characters, as this trailer seems to show, Lizzie's wit and forthrightness, Anne's perceptiveness and generosity.... That's a perfect person! There's no nuance or room for growth! *This is also why Persuasion does not work as a love triangle. Mr Elliot is up to no good and Anne never trusts him. If you make Anne more gullible you remove a key aspect of her character, but that's another issue
Well the trailer makes it seem like that for sure. I'll clearly watch it since I love Jane Austen, but this almost feels like maybe Netflix had their hands too far into it. It'll be interesting to see them take on Austen because the last adaption of Emma, which got theatre release was really enjoyable. I wonder if they picked this project because of Bridgerton, but at the same time Bridgerton can barely be compared to Austen or her works even if they set them both in the regency era.
@@sarahcox4292 I like your analysis of Lizzie and Anne but I don't think we know for sure that Anne is more guillable in this adaptation based on this trailer. To me, she seems charmed by him but still cautious, as if she knows she must be careful. I am keeping an open mind until I see it.
No and no. Persuasion is my favorite of Jane Austen's books because it had a gravitas the previous books lacked. Anne does not have hunks of jam on her face and has the chamber pot fall on her. Anne is dignified, she is strong for everyone else. Not everything needs to be Bridgerton, for the love of God.
Thank you to everybody who is in the same boat as me. They butchered our girl. This should say LOOSELY based on the book because I feel like the only things in common they have are the names of the characters. I’m so bummed that they felt the need to change it up soooo much. It was nice to see diversity in the cast, but that’s the only compliment I can pay this trailer.
The weird thing about diversity is, if they did a movie about Japan in the 1800s they wouldn’t just throw random white people in there. If they did a movie about Africa in the 1800s, they wouldn’t throw random Asian or white people in there. It’s stupid to just put diversity into Jane Austen just to be politically correct.
@@patriciamay6396 lol this was not a period piece. it was a terrible austen adaptation so it truly did not matter who the characters were played by. nothing about political correctness here. and it does go the other way all the time as you have described.
please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please this is the best Jane Austen book, please keep it as it is, please please please
There's a Vogue article about this adaptation.....all it seemed like they wanted to talk about is how quirky and silly this movie is going to be...NOOOOO 😭😭😭
They're not going to keep it as it is because they have no creative integrity or world-building. Netflix don't care about Jane Austen, they're just using her work as a platform to push "THE MESSAGE"...
I think they got the mood wrong. Persuassion it’s about longing about what Anne thought was lost when she left Wentworth. I’ve read Austen and Persuassion remains her most introspective work, the less comedic one, and the most critical of all in terms how society and class can separate people apart.
I am an Austen fan, but have yet to read ‘Persuasion’. I am thoroughly pleased to see avid readers as myself who have read it, are NOT pleased with this adaptation based on this particular trailer. The thoughtful, sensible analyses in the comments section against this adaptation’s tone and mood have been a pleasure to read. Keep sounding the displeased alarm, fellow bibliophiles.
wasn't Anne supposed to be a bit insecure and reserved in the time leading up to and then seeing Wentworth again? Dakota comes of as too confident and wallowing, but not the quiet reserved Anne I'm thinking she should be. I prefer the Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Roote version, even if people think they look too old, the acting is a lot more subtle and you can feel the emotion better
Why the hell is her hair down!!?!!!!!! Her character is like 27 or something, not 12, their hair was never down even at home after like the age of 18, only maybe right before bed
did they just stick her in a beret like it was 1900!?!!!, I live in France, and NO ONE wears a beret except weird tourists, old men, and people that live in Marseille or in the Basque region, hahahhaha, and while the beret has an old history, I highly doubt an English woman in like 1818 would've been wearing it
Did the writers have her use the word "ex", hahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahhahaha, I know they are trying to piggyback off the success of Bridgerton, but Bridgerton is legit fantasy, while the work of Jane Austen even though fiction is definitely not. I mean, I understand why they did it thinking the language of Austen might be too complicated for speakers in our generation, but nah, man, we can still understand it, especially presented in context And don't mention the blind casting, I have absolutely no problem with that, I'm only mentioning it in case people think I have a problem with it, I definitely don't have a problem with blind casting
@@aeolia80 Thanks for the more critical reaction. Good to hear a differing POV, and from a book reader at that. And also, yeah, I too was slightly thrown off when they used the word "exes", I always felt like that was modern language, not something you'd hear from someone in the early 1800s.
@@aeolia80 This was me watching the first season of Sanditon. MC has her hair down for most of the movie and she's supposed to be 'out' in society. A regency woman would never.
Agreed. I think the best Austen adaptations are the ones which are a series. There's so many layers that condensing it to 2 hours max is impossible. See Emma 2020 for this one.
A mini-series would be great (if done right). There is so much to flesh out in the main characters during the engagement (I imagine a happy younger Anne and Wentworth) and then in the later years after the ending of the engagement and they meet again.
I really like Jane Austen's Persuasion and I really hope this trailer is deceiving because it almost seems like they have decided to mock the story, it's coming off more as a parody rather than a true adaptation BTW just watched it and my advice don't bother they completely butchered the characters and the dialogue. I don't understand how they can get everything do wrong even though it's all written down for them in a book.
That’s how I feel. Like they’re trying to make It more in the style of Pride and Prejudice or Emma. Persuasion is more emotional and Anne is not Lizzie Bennet.
yes my problem is Anne Elliot is a different kind of character than Emma and Lizzie Bennett and this trailer makes it look like Jane Austen only wrote one type of female character
To me it just seems like they dispensed with Anne and replaced her with Elizabeth tbh. Like if they were so desperate for a snarky, comedic, assertive heroine why bother adapting persuasion? Do p&p, Emma, or northanger abbey again. Or I could even live with like turning a marianne into this kind of character. But to do it to Anne is just like.. why? Why remove some of the most poignant elements of persuasion? I feel like if this is how Hollywood chooses interprets her in the 21st century, I’ll never see a tone-appropriate Anne Elliot or Fanny Price.
I watched this yesterday evening and I've been SCREAMING all along. They butchered the story in a horrifying way, disrespecting each and every character, but mostly our dear Anne Eliott. They made her an alcoholic ffs !!! You wanna make Bridgerton shit, go write your own Bridgerton shit but leave Austen's work at peace. I am so angry right now. How could anyone jump into this shitshow is beyond me. Has anyone seen the series Sanditon ? It was made with utter respect to Jane Austen's phylosophy and work. The actors are amazing, the costumes, everything. It is remarkable and was made by true Austen lovers. The person who wrote this version of Persuasion could really learn from it. The only thing worth saving in this version of Persuasion is THE FREAKING RABBIT, that says a lot about the whole mess.
I didn’t read the novel but I think I will now I couldn’t keep watch the movie and yes I watched sadniton and you’re right it was amazing I enjoyed every episode
I love Sanditon. Even though I consider myself an Austen fan I didn't know it was her work before I started watching the show. While I was watching the very first episode I thought, this feels like an Austen novel, could it be? So I paused the episode and googled it and confirmed it was. That's how good a job they did of staying true to Austen's style of storytelling. I could tell it was based on her works from half an episode without prior knowledge that it was.
Dakota Johnson just fits her role perfectly. I’m so stoked to see yet another Jane Austen novel being adapted into a movie in 2022. Quite surprising to see Henry Golding in this as well. Overall, based on the trailer alone, it’s gonna be an immense rollercoaster.
henry golding has white father privilege that's why he easily got the role. Imagine if his mum was white and his dad wasn't white. He wouldn't be getting hollywood roles
Although i have never read the book, what i loved about the 2007 ITV version, featuring the brilliant Sally Hawkins, is the intensity of pain Anne goes through. So raw and so real. We feel her anguish and love her all the more for it. This new film seems to create the wrong tone for my favourite Jane Austen novel
I usually love adaptations that do something new and interesting with the source material (I really enjoyed 'Fire Island' as a take on Pride and Prejudice'). But this really seems to miss what people love about Persuasion and turn Anne into a fiesty, Lizzie-Bennet-turned-up-to-11 character, instead of the somewhat ground down by her family, but still highly perceptive, intelligent and strong in her convictions character that so spoke to me. Perhaps the sadness of Anne, feeling left on the shelf at 27 and living her life for others, cannot translate to a modern audience directly because we rightly don't identify with being single as a failing anymore. But surely there was some way of changing the circumstances while staying true to the sadness and longing of the book without turning the story into a farce and Anne into a typical fiesty herione. Not really hopeful about this one based on the trailer alone... hopefully this is misrepresentative.
You articulate my misgivings this trailer gave me. Anne is Not Lizzie, she can’t be. I am a Austen fan and will probably watch this but this Anne just doesn’t feel like Anne to me.
I agree. They could change the tone without changing the character so much. She's the center of the story, it's nor Persuasion if they change her. I hate when they change the story SO much that they're really just trying to profit off the author's/book's name by calling it so.
Totally agree. Although Anne is a smart, beautiful, kind woman, there's this sense of feeling unworthy or how you described: being left in the shell that I don't quite feel being portrayed by Dakota (and I love Dakota). Let's hope that the movie prove us wrong.
I wrote a fanfiction once where Anne Elliot was a relatively minor character on a magic flying ship whose only real role in the story was to get kidnapped alongside Fanny and Susan Price by evil warlock Henry Crawford and I still think my version was closer to actual Persuasion than this...
Persuasion is my favorite Jane Austen book. As much as I love Dakota, making Anne a carbon copy character of a modern woman rather than respecting her honest struggles and strengths during the historical moment the character lives in is actually a disservice to her ability. I would have loved to see Dakota portray Anne as she really is. It would have been phenomenal. Persuasion deserves better respect than this.
I really love Dakota But i’m not quite sure she is a good actress enough to portray such a deep character. The other problem is that those new productions always try to make stories more Modern. That’s very sad. They did the same with Agatha Christie’s Poirot. A total 😢
Not every movie needs pop culture references that will age like milk to future audiences. Why can't we just have historically accurate period dramas? It feels like they are trying to ride off of the success of Fleabag with the fourth wall breaks. If they want to add modern elements they should do it right like Knights Tale did or not do it at all lol.
I adore the 2007 BBC movie version of Persuasion with Sally Hawkins. It's one of my mom's favorite movies and she made me watch it as a teen and I loved it. Sally truly captured the spirit of Anne Eliot.
It wasn't perfect, but it's definitely my favorite Persuasion adaptation so far. I don't know why so many people love the '95 version, it's one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, right up there with Jeremiah Johnson.
This is not Austen's Persuasion. Anne was a really serious and timid character. This seems to be a "fanfic" of Persuasion than an adaptation. The problem is that is "sold" like the real thing, which is NOT when you completely change the main character personality
Well it is an adaptation so it doesn't have to be 1 to 1. I guess it's just a matter of whether it's well received or not. Books are an entirely different format and perhaps they made certain choices because otherwise it would not hold the audiences attention. Time will tell
There is a fine line between honoring the written word of Austen and trying to flow with the popular shows Bridgerton etc. I’m in no way an Austen purist, but I feel one can over popularize for the sake of revenue. I will watch this as it has always been one of my favorites🌺
@@gemelwalters2942 Sure, it doesn't have to be a 1 to 1 (actually I think it never should)-but it should understand its source material and Persuasion is a very unique book compared to Austen's other novels, that deals a lot with regret, nostalgia and vanity. This just looks like Bridgerton.
What's next? A zany, slapstick, rom-com version of Romeo and Juliet? The power of Persuasion is not Anne being caught making fun of Wentworth while zanily not aware she has jam on her lip. It's about two people overwhelmed by the sadness and regret (on her part) and anger (initially, on his part, still bitter over her rejection of him) of being in the presence of someone you once loved, while also surrounded by self-absorbed idiots who don't even remember what you once meant to each other.
Netflix butchered Anne Elliot for me. Anne Elliot is most unique introvert character. And this is not Austen's Miss Elliott. So much disappointed for ruining a beautiful character.
I'm so looking forward to the pining and another handsome hunk saying - "You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant." But this version seems to have made Anne quirky and adorable, but she is the most mature and calm of Austen's heroines. I guess they are going for the 2020 Emma version feel. This might be interesting and bring levity to an otherwise melancholy story.If they overdo the quirky ditzy thing it would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. It's a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. They are truly haunted by their long separation. She has such heart wrenching internal monologues about Friedrich in the book. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.
Yes this is what I felt too reg. 2020 Emma quirkiness. I love the Sally Hawkins version and I think this is going to be very different from that but I'm looking forward to it!
I’m totally shocked at this adaptation of Persuasion! Persuasion is my favorite novel by Jane Austen and that’s due to understanding Anne so well. She’s an introvert, who is shy and still has a longing for a lost love. This adaptation totally changes who Anne is and how Jane Austen wrote the character. I was so looking forward to a new Persuasion, but I won’t be watching this adaptation. So sad! 😓
It's like this is the sister film to 1999 Mansfield Park. Even down to the quirk narrator in the trailer. People keep comparing it to 2020 Emma, but they forget EMMA was GOOD; the costumes were right and Anya had period appropriate hair and the soundtrack was all old hymns and sounded very 1800s... This is nothing like that, it's just Mansfield Park all over again. Are we this scared to have a quiet heroine? I want my book accurate Anne Elliot and Fanny Price, please, not more Elizabeth Bennet knock offs.
Persuasion is my fave Austen too and this trailer is such a let down. I won’t watch it. Periodt. I’ll rewatch the 2007 adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones. Now that’s my Anne and Capt. Wentworth.
@@maggiepie765 yes, that one actually is pretty good. I own the Blu-ray. Left a lot out, but it still tried to be the book and not its own thing. Also the little it did add was actually darling: the Fanny/Edmund kiss, the wedding waltz, Tom Bertram calling Fanny "the best girl alive"? Makes me melt like butter on a pancake.
I've always found it sad that her talent was never fully recognized until many years after her death, and the fact that we still read her novels today is telling, when most other authors of that time are long forgotten (not surprisingly, having read a few of their works!). In 1817, the only public reference to Jane Austen by name is in the newspapers that reported her death in July. Northanger Abbey and Persuasion, which came out in the December of that year, were simply advertised as by the Author of Pride and Prejudice etc.
Getting an adaptation right is about understanding the tone of the story, more than anything. That's why people still love the 2005 P&P, even though there's a lot that was changed from the book - the tone is right and it evokes the same emotions. Emma 2020 worked so well because the book is already a comedy, so quirky characters and funny bits don't seem out of place. You'll notice, however, that where they modernized scenes and actions and dynamics, they made sure to have accurate costumes, hair and makeup, which means there's a balance there that keeps it realistically period. This seems to have neither. It doesn't seem like the right tone, the right personalities, the right clothes, the right hair or the right makeup. It feels like they looked at the novel and thought hm, let's make Anne a little bit more Not Like Other Girls™. It might've been better if they went the Clueless route and only claimed to be based on the book, it would've made the changes less jarring.
Agree. For me it's the getting the tone of the characters right. I can get on board with costumes, music and even storylines differing from the books or other adaptations or historical accuracy, but making characters more "modern" or "relatable" never works and yes, it reeks of Not Like Other Girls, which is tired and off putting to say the least.
@@thewildaly yes, but then calling it Persuasion seems kind of dishonest, doesn’t it? Of course, not having seen it yet, we’re all speculating, but the trailer shows a pretty superficial treatment if comparing to the original, or other more serious film versions.
@@zeearchers720 I think what the trailer is trying to show us is that there was artistic license taken with the main character. But the plot, other characters, the conflict, and setting looked like they were based on the novel Persuasion by Jane Austen.
I can't bear the 2005 P and P so there is that. I do love the BBC Colin Firth one. To me he understood Darcy in a way no other actor has. I think this looks like it might be good? I'll give it chance. She is a good actress.
@@beomgguks970 I agree the adaptation is alright, BUT... my main pet peeve regarding Persuasion is how nobody seems to portray Anne's personality accurately. She is not meek, she is not dumb and she is not traumatised... she is simply too rational, sensible and mature for her age. Sally Hawkin's portrayal was not good IMHO - it was too anxious, bordering on unhinged. I like Amanda Root's portrayal better, but still... it was too meek for Anne. She is amazing as a character, complex and nuanced and interesting, and the best thing about the novel, and I wish I could see it one day on the screen.
Sadly, this is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad adaptation. I wonder if the writers ever actually read Persuasion before because they completely misunderstood who Anne Elliot is and have turned her character into Bridget Jones. Completely ridiculous!
I saw this trailer yesterday and was like... no. No no no no no no no.... they did NOT try to turn my favorite of Jane Austen's novels into the Regency version of Fleabag. Persuasion is not a rom-com, it's a poignant story of regret, maturity, and second chances. Definitely giving this a miss and rewatching the movie with Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root ASAP.
Let me save you the trouble. Watch the 1995 version of Persuasion with Amanda Root. It captures the deep mature introspection of Persuasion. Even from the trailer, you see this film and this character are completely dissonant from the book. If you want a Bridgerton-esque romcom, by all means watch this new film and have fun. But if you want to experience Jane Austen's brilliant and most mature book, watch the 1995 version or better yet, give it a read.
I agree 100 percent. I even watched the 1970ish version and 1995 was the best. I did not mind the 2007 version either but the 1995 version felt more mature and there was more nonverbal tension that felt more realistic. The tender way they announced their feelings was hands down the best.
@@elainajoyce9040 that 70s adaptations is also special in its own way. I believe it here on youtube. I enjoy that one and the 1995 one at least once a year. Prob my fav austin book after p&p
Persuasion deserves a good & faithful film adaptation, and the 1995 version is it for me. I won't need this new one. I don't know why they had to change Anne like that. There was nothing wrong with her in the first place.
Why on earth they try to modernize dialogue to appeal the audience when the real reason we want to watch period dramas is for things like: "you have bewitched me body and soul"
Has anyone written a better love letter than Wentworth's to Anne Elliot? The film establishment has no idea what it's ruining. Makes you ask whether they read the book they're butchering.
Persuasion is one of my favourite books.. I've read it countless number of times.. Mostly because Anne's character resonates with mine. Anne is calm, quiet and introverted. Not mischievous or fiesty. There's a sort of serenity and grace in the character Austen had written. And though I shouldn't be judging this before watching it, the trailer has let me down immensely. This comes nowhere close to the previous adaptation in the late 2000s. Which I would easily prefer over this new modern one.
I watch it last night, excited of course. The opening scene was glorious but 5 minutes into the movie my heart was just broken to pieces, they murdered my Anne.
Why would anyone do this?! Why is Anne being quirky and kind of flirty? Why would Anne make herself a funny element? Anne is a heroine to so many calm, intelligent, introverted, reflective and witty female personalities (which is so rare form of representation) and being one such personalities I am a bit disappointed with this version. This film makes me appreciate and love the novel and Anne (from the book) even more than before...
First off, I'll come out and say it. I enjoyed the Bridgerton series. However, not every period piece needs to be modelled after it. Certainly not Jane Austen! Jane Austen's works are a blend of romance and strong, bold characters emerging amidst societal restrictions. Perhaps the actual movie will reflect this, but the trailer does not give me much hope of that. I'm feeling quite let down and I haven't even watched the movie yet :-(
Yes exactly! Bridgerton works so well because it was unique and one of its kind when it came out. Every other period drama that copies bridgerton is just not going to be very successful.
Bridgerton is fantasy type world, and it's by a modern day author. But Austen wrote during the Georgian era, the CB Casting doesn't work very well, it detracts from the plot and makes it unbelievable. Unless they want to take the universal themes of Austen books, and set them in modern times, where they're are less limitations.
Bridgerton worked because it was a fantasy. I have no idea why they're cutting and pasting it onto Jane Austen. Having black/bi racial/Asian people as aristocrats in regency England immediately rips the viewer out of the world Netflix are supposed to be building.
There’s a bbc persuasion movie that I highly recommend. It’s one of the best period movies and romance movies ever. I love Dakota and am excited to see it being adapted still in 2022 but this looks a little too quirky. It’ll be interesting to see but I hope it doesn’t bastardise the og and just make her fun and quirky. Anne is unlike many if Austens leading women much more introspective and introverted than other leads while still being extremely strong.
@@hiteshadari4790 a movie set during a specific historical period that isn’t modern or recent - so the regency period, Victorian period, gilded age, etc !
In my opinion, Persuasion is Jane Austen’s most mature novel and its protagonist’s struggles dwell upon that exact concept. If this movie is revealed to be little more than this trailer depicts-a sappy, gushy, fourth wall breaking soap drama tailored to the bored couch-sitters returning from their ninth binge of Bridgerton, my soul will be all agony, no hope. Please for the love of God, Netflix, prove me wrong.
Just watched it. WHAT WAS THAT!?! Everything wrong with the Netflix adaptation of one of Jane Austen's greatest novels: Persuasion- EVERYTHING. Anne Elliot is my favorite Austen heroine. They butchered a masterpiece...
It's just this arrogant, modern attitude, not only thinking that they know better than Austen, but assuming that we in the 21st century cannot understand a book written over 200 years ago. Yet from the comments' section, it's obvious that people understand Austen's message today just as wel as her audience did when she published Persuasion. (Maybe even more so, given the volumes of studies into her works which have been published.) Why can't these filmmakers respect history and even admit that people who lived hundreds of years ago can still teach us?
Funny thing is, i was so excited for this Netflix Persuasion. I was excited when i saw the first look of Anne Elliot (i believe it came out last year) and i installed Netflix and paid for my Netflix last month just because i was waiting for this. Persuasion is my most favorite Austen book and Anne Elliot is my most favorite Austen character/heroine because of her sensible, quiet, calm, kind, humble, non self-centric characteristic. This is not her and this doesn't feel like Persuasion at all. We'll see but i'm already disappointed big time.
It doesn't come out until next month so why would you have paid for Netflix last month in order to see it? Sounds like you probably should have just waited if that's true.
@@thetramp123 because i was afraid to miss it and i didn't hv the app before so i decided to install it and also to register it fully and see what is inside i needed to pay
Oh god... I have a feeling this is gonna miss the point and tone of the story completely. Anyway, there's already a perfect Persuasion adaptation and it's the highly underrated '95 version (not the 2007 version that one sucks too). That movie captures the essence and spirit of the characters and story so well. An actual contemplative slow burn that still has one of the BEST romantic climactic moments ever with the way they did the letter scene.
I’m so glad you mentioned the ‘95 movie! I agree 100%. That adaptation was perfection and really brought the characters to life for me. I have doubts about this one…
Couldn't agree more! The Ciaran Hinds/Amanda Root version from '95 is unmatched. This trailer feels so departed from the intended tone of the novel. Very disappointing!
I have never seen a trailer that does a book/story so wrong in my life. If this movie ends up being bridgerton 2.0 instead of being the beautiful heartwrenching story that it is, I will be very very sad.
Oh this is weird.... I was excited for this because Anne Elliot is my most favorite Austen character and Persuasion is my favorite Austen book...but this feels so entirely different 😭😭but i'm still gonna watch and let's see
That awful modern, loose hair is more than just an aesthetic choice, it shows how they view the character. Anne as a character would never, never look so unkept in the company of others.
Even when it's properly done - side part with sweeping bangs? Excuse me? Honestly my first thought when I saw photos of the costumes was that I've seen more accurate school productions. I didn't even recognize them as regency era. Someone had to tell me it was an Austen film. I thought it was a modern movie that just had a dark academia/cottagecore aesthetic.
This is so she stands out, heh, and the audience can relate to her. It's been done in many period and historical pieces. The main actress (probably sometimes the main actor, too) also wears more modern dresses and accessories. It does look off, indeed. I think they overdid it with the loose hair, but the bun with bangs was just enough.
Writer, producer, director : How much different than the book do you want this to be? Netflix : YES *Btw do you remember back then when they made Mansfield Park's Fanny Price as an extrovert, Lizzie Bennet kind of a girl? And how was the reception? Yes, this seems like a good idea, Netflix.
Apparently, they've decided to update this story by making Anne into a buffoon and her father into a narcissistic ninny. Also, Wentworth spent much of the novel ignoring Anne when he returned after eight years, actively pursuing other women in front of her. They barely had any conversations together. That provided much of the pathos of the original novel; they both had a great deal of unspoken pain from their separation that they were forced to repress. This is NOT a comedy and it distorts the novel to make it one.
The renters of the house were disturbed by the number of mirrors (and I think something about the placement too?). And physical appearance was a major source of conversation.
The character of Anne is someone who was persuaded to not marry her beau, and her "bloom has been lost". She is a quiet but upstanding honorable soul. Anne is not quirky. I like Dakota ok, but am sure there is a British actress that should have gotten this role. Especially since all of the other actors are British to my knowledge - Finally, I have never seen someone's hair down in a period piece unless they were a child or going to bed. --- This all being said, I will watch and most likely enjoy this. I do hope the yearning love of the characters comes through.
As I watched this trailer, I thought, “But this isn’t the Anne Elliot I know and love. Where is the humble, self-sacrificing woman who puts others first? And why is her hair down? That isn’t Regency at all.” Glad to see the comments section agrees. Sorry, Netflix, but you have widely missed the mark.
Whoever wrote the script for this read the sparknotes version written by the teacher to test the student if they read the book. My wife is in tears over this!
To be a fly on the wall when this was pitched… “So we want to make another Jane Austen movie, this one’s called Persuasion and the main character is named Anne.” “Okay, so is she like Elizabeth Bennet? Pride & Prejudice = money” “…No..” “Okay, so she’s like Emma? Emma = money” “…No…” “But you can make her like Elizabeth and Emma, right?” “No, she’s a very different-“ “Make her like them.”
Looks good but I think a considerable deviation from the book. Dakota here seems more like a Lizzie Bennet. The Anne in the book is a lot more of an introvert and considerably less self assured.
I thought the BBC 2007 version with Sally Hawkins was such a great representation that it would be darn near impossible to outdo it. And this didn't, not even close, Dakota Johnson fan or not.
This is for the younger generation. Having read Persuasion at least 10 times, I can tell you this clip contains dialogue that was definitely not written by Jane Austen...imagine optioning the greatest work by the greatest novelist in the English language...& then grabbing a red pen & ham-fistedly 'improving' Jane Austen's dialogue lol. The tone is also odd--Lizzie Bennet & Anne Elliot are meant to be two very different characters. I do hope young fans thoroughly enjoy it tho, & that it leads them to the novels. For me, the definitive version of Persuasion will always be the 1995 version with Amanda Root & Ciaran Hinds. It's absolutely brilliant.
You're so right! Persuasion is arguably the best novel in the English language. This is more like Jane Austin's plot channeled through "Brigerton" via "Bridget Jones' Diary." Sigh...still waiting on a series that has the guts to do a faithful adaptation.
I am thrilled that another "Persuasion" film is made, but I am a bit disappointed that they seem to take out the more serious tone of the book, which I find already perfect in its maturity and sensibility. Now in this version, Anne Elliott is coming off to me as a foolish maid, rather than that sensible, level-headed and more put together character I loved so much from the books. But, yeah, I'm still going to see it.
I hope the netflix execs that approved or pushed for this direction (because they wanted to echo the success of Bridgerton or something) can read through this comments section and realize what they’ve done. Jane Austen adaptations should just stay true to the novel and that alone would already appeal to massive existing fans, you don’t need to make it into a modern romcom to make it a successful movie. Now you will lose the loyal Jane Austen fanbase which probably would’ve made up for most of the views. Probably just another movie that’ll be forgotten and not be recommended by Jane Austen fans :/
Julia Quinns novels weren't the most historically accurate, sure they were wallpaper historicals, she's no Mary Balogh, but even she didn't use POC as British Aristocracy...That is a Netflix abomination
They don't care, it matters more to them to tick a box. It just jarred with the time period and the story and I don't know how actors are not embarrassed to be cast in this way. Every scene one main character was in, I immediately didn't see the character, I saw the actress doing (I'm sorry to say) some very wooden acting, looking very out of place. It may not be PC to say it, but that's the reality. I think we will never see another classic literature film where the casting reflects the time period of the story, there is just too much fuss made. The Anne Boleyn story recently on channel 4 was a reflection of how ridiculous it has become.
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Anne Elliott is such a unique character. She is humble, quiet, introverted. She does everything for others. Why is everyone taking these beloved female characters and trying to make them fiesty? Persuasion is my favourite novel. This doesn't fit the tone of the novel at all. It feels like they are trying to make it a comedy. Why can't they just leave a great story as it is. It is beloved for a reason. What is so wrong with being humble, sincere and quiet as a woman? Not every female alive has to be feisty.
Exactly 😭
Exactly! Miss Anne Elliot was a self-representation for me in this world of sassy and fiesty characters, I was waiting for this movie so much and then I got this. Feel a little dumbfounded.
This. Media is saturated with feisty characters. I'm sick of them.
I was so excited for this, but I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy when it finally comes out.
It always seems strange to me when writers decide "I think *I*, incredible writer that I am, can improve on this iconic character written by a highly respected and celebrated author, and the generations of people who have loved this story for years will surely like that I fundamentally changed everything about the character."
I'm so glad someone got paid for: "Now we're worse than exes, we're friends" The biggest eye roll in the world doesn't do it justice! Why change something so beautiful and insightful. What Austen actually wrote is, "“There could have never been two hearts so open, no tastes so similar, no feelings so in unison, no countenances so beloved. Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted. It was a perpetual estrangement.”
It's basically what is wrong with this adaptation in a nutshell. It has a distinct quirky feel of 2020 Emma with a splash of Bridgerton and that's just not... it.
Right? The new line is absolutely terrible, and so far from the original that it's laughable
THAT PART!
I was confused by that line in the trailer too. I don't think an ex was a thing during that time. It sounds too modern and like lazy paraphrasing.
@@annemariestrehl exactly "an ex" didn't exist in that time. It sounds like a desperate modernisation of the piece.
The comment section absolutely passed the vibe check. I went there expecting to find people fawning over the Regency-era setting and Dakota Johnson. Instead, I find deep, thoughtful analyses and critiques, probably better than I could've found anywhere else. Jane Austen would've been proud :)
The media will probably call fans names for not gushing at this.
How do you know if Jane Austen would've been proud? Did you know her personally?
@Z S - don't you? Obviously never read an Austin novel nor deigned to peruse her biography. Jane WOULD be tickled that she is still relevant and beloved by fans who defend her. NETFLIX SUCKS. Watch the BBC Sally Hawkins version. The vampires at Netflix deserve an Upper Decker.
@@anaisnin7983 to make such assumptions is beyond conceivable arrogance..... however, I will let you to jog on
@@ChildOfTheFlower how long until they claim we're as toxic as the LOTR fans who rightly are poed at Rings of Power?
I agree with a lot of the comments here. Female empowerment is not about replacing every introverted female character with a “sassy” personality. I want to see more representation of quiet and sincere women that I can actually relate to😭
yes.
The irony is that Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' contains some fascinating and pertinent discussions about the perceptions of women back in her day. They could have had a field day exploring those. They didn't need this wishy-washy modernist travesty.
Yes. It gives the implication that you can't be a strong empowered woman unless your sassy eith everyone.
The thing that's ridiculous is that Anne actually was a strong and empowered woman. She knew she had made a mistake and when given a second chance she stepped out, took the opportunity, and embraced the life she wanted. That's empowering in any time, but especially during the age. She also learned to stand up to her family and for herself by the end of the story, and she did it her own way, without being sassy.
this comment and along with the replies. I’m really like really sick of seeing women being that sassy, quirky, and badass trope. Like, women can be strong with mind, knowledge, wise, and even if they are introverted, quiet, or a shy type, they can be strong and put you in your place when they want to. You don’t always have to be that mean or sassy girl to be strong.
Yup, women is consider strong if they are like teasing, outgoing, provocative, flirting, and have a tragic backstory lmao its funny
'Now we are worse than exes - We are friends' ????? When do Anne and Wentworth become friends after their separation?? They skirt around each other awkwardly for the entire book until the gravity of their feelings is too much and they collide back together in the most romantic scene I have ever read... They exist in the same room for months and barely acknowledge one another and THAT IS THE POINT. Their yearning is too intense for a simple friendship to exist!! Its agony for them to be in the same room together and THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE BOOK SO GOOD.
Also, the Regency Era didn’t have “exes”! 😖
@@ellenlittle6551 I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the characters pulled out an iPhone from their pocket in the movie
@@Seca95 haha this made me laugh out loud
It really cheapens the pain Anne feels when she’s around Wentworth. It’s agonizing. To me that line is the worse part of the trailer. It’s just so reductive to Anne’s heartbreak.
@@Seca95 it could be
I know I shouldn't judge this before seeing it, but I agree with the other commenters. If screenwriters don't like Austen's quiet, reserved heroines like Anne and Fanny, why don't they just adapt P&P or Emma instead of turning them into those characters? Introverted women exist and deserve to be seen and loved for who they are, not forced to change into society's idea of what a strong woman should look like.
Looks like they made the same mistake as that 90s Mansfield Park.
Perfectly said!
true
This is one of my favourite Jane Austen heroines and they completely butchered her. She doesnt look like someone who could be persuaded of anything, she feels rebelious and nothing at all like in the book. I'll stick with Amanda Root's and Sally Hawkins wonderful Anne's interpretations
No! I’m tired of Lizzy being misrepresented. But, you absolutely may judge this before seeing it because we all know the title should be Persuadegerton.
I really didn't like what they did with Mansfield Park (though the film was a hit), but this? It sounds like a nice take, not everything has to be exactly like the book. And, Anne did have a sense of humour about the persons around her, she just didn't show it.
I guess the problem here is that there is a very faithful adaption of P&P and several at least halfway faithful adaptations of Emma, but not a single one of Persuasion.
I will never understand Netflix’s decision to make such a quiet, thoughtful, and kind protagonist make snarky remarks in a “Jim from the office” style.
Because it’s Netflix. Given enough time and money, Netflix could even ruin Shakespeare.
Jim from the office🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gold
I KNOW, how dare they insult precious Jimothy by stealing his signature move and including it in this farce!?
Good god this nails it completely!!!
Feels like they're trying to do the same thing as the 2020 version of Emma but it fits far better for that character than here
Anne Elliot is a superior woman. She is thoughtful, kind, quiet yet observant, steadfast and of sound principles. She's represented all the introvert women for the past 200 years and shown the world their unimaginable worth. And then Netflix comes along and makes her a loud, sassy, flirt with a big mouth. As if she'd ever say "Wentworth" whilst thinking of him. As if she'd be as vulgar as Mrs. Elton from Emma. Ridiculous.
My own personality is closer to Lizzie, but one must admire an Anne Elliot!! She's one of the most amazing women in literature!
Oh my god, THAT is who she reminded me of in this! Mrs. Elton. No wonder I find her so damn annoying.
@@lovetolovefairytales dreadfully good point.
I agree. Having her cop a squat and pee by a tree while hiding from Louisa and Mr. Wentworth did nothing to move the story forward and was such a betrayal to the style and spirit of the novel. Why all the makeup and red lipstick? Dakota Johnson has beautiful skin and features. They really didn't understand the message of the story. Anne thought she did the wrong thing in "giving up" Wentworth but the audience is supposed to know better. He didn't deserve her until he made his fortune. That was part of the point of the visit to Mrs. Smith. That could have been Anne had she thrown her lot in with Wentworth at a young age and he got killed at sea. She would have been in trouble much like her friend. Wentworth had spent extravagantly and had not saved his money won in the Navy. At his age it didn't look good for him to win more but of course he did and by then he learned to save. Mrs. Russel was right to encourage Anne to give him up. Part of the reason he made so much money was daring and it is difficult to be daring if you know your death could leave your wife widowed with nothing. Mrs Russell wasn't wrong to encourage her to break off the engagement and Anne wasn't wrong to listen to her elders. To think Austen meant to ignore your elders they have no wisdom to offer, is just mad.
wait what. whats wrong w saying his name?
Anne’s strength is her quiet, consistency. She is intelligent and thoughtful. Altering her character for modern sensibilities is insulting not only to Austin’s character but to modern audiences. There are many “Anne’s” in this world they and deserve to be valued for who they are and the enrichment they bring to all.
Persuasion is my favorite of Austen’s novel. Unfortunately this looks to be another instance of the “title and names are unchanged but the characters are missing.” Looks like another Mansfield Park.
Thank you for the correction. Much appreciated.
Agreed. Well said. Thank you
Thank you - my sentiments exactly
Beautifully put. What a relief to find that someone else has already said what needed to be said.
Persuasion is my favorite as well and the only way to experience the real Anne is to read the book. Everything else is an interpretation. She left us with so few pieces of her work, so when it comes to Austen, my opinion will always be the more interpretations, the better.
The cinematography is stunning, but they've really done a number on Anne. She's not so flirty an audacious. Poor girl spends most of the book yearning, flitting between agony and hope, and quietly observing everyone. She's sad and faded away since she let the love of her life go eight years ago.
Yes, I'm watching it now and I can't believe what they did to her character. One of the things I love about her character is her transformation from sad dul, to glowing by the time she reaches Bath. You can feel her longing, regret at letting herself be persuaded to leave captain Wentworth. You don't feel that pain with this character. She's cheery from the get go.
If he was as bored being in a relationship with her as I was in watching this film I understand why he left her🥱 😴
@@mnm9492 what. She’s sad from jump And continues to be so.
But what I love most about Anne is the fact that she isn't mischievous or always dabbling in the affairs of others. She isn't cheeky and always smirking at cameras. She's reserved, calm, and mature. That's not the vibe this is giving.
And that is an essential part of her character, she is older, washed-up and defeated to live a life of serving her family. The whole story is she is given a second chance.
The character you’re describing sounds more interesting to watch than this Jennifer-Lawrence-in-any-role-2010’s crap I’m looking at except with Dakota. I think they try to make women characters written a certain way have no meekness about them whatsoever and end up with these blobs of smirking nonsense
@@Dizzydollie7 Totally agree!
I think mature is one of the best words to describe her.
Victorian England is somehow more diverse than modern England hmmmmmmm
I just watched this film. I am so happy that Jane Austen couldn't live long enough to watch this. The characters and plot are so far removed from her original idea, that she would be appalled to be even remotely associated with this adaptation. Austen's fans: DO NOT WATCH.
Don't worry: I already knew from the words 'new adaptation' that this would depart from the book. I am only shocked at the lengths they have gone to here. Anne pouring liquid on her own head and smearing jam on her upper lip? They need this in order to be funny? Do they think we're too stupid to appreciate Jane Austen's satire and wit?
Jane Austen just did 10 flips in her grave...
As someone who haven't read any of her novel, should I watch it? Read all comments and everyone is angry about not doing movie by the book. So for a non-reader and movie lover, is it a good movie ?
@@average3394 No, it's not a good movie. If you just want entertainment, then go ahead and watch. But this is *not* Persuasion by Jane Austen. There are better adaptations that other people have mentioned.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 got u. Thanks
It warms the cockles of my heart to see how Austen lovers have risen as one and condemned this monstrosity.
It looks well produced with a good cast, but the whole feel does not fit the story at all. It seems the producers were just keeping up with our times, which detracts from the whole feeling of reading a Jane Austen novel - I want to be transported back in time. I’ll give it a shot, but I’m not expecting much.
@@Shaezi11aGames I wish I could thumbs up this comment a zillion times. I want to be transported back in time as well, so I do want things in an Austen adaptation to be as accurate as possible with a tinge of relatability to make it understandable today. Don't bother to dress in Regency times if you are going to make this a modern take. Just make a modern Persuasion set in the present day and save us all the grief.
@@Shaezi11aGames If you want to be transported back in time, you could watch the 2007 adaptation by ITV. It doesn't have to be remade.
Never underestimate the power of Austen fans we are loyal to that which should be preserved. There is no integrity to this.
@@somesuchx8912 I didn't know there was a 2007, I only ever see the older one. I will give that a look-see!
This is horrifying. The fleabag style camera looks, Dakota looking beautiful with make up, the way that you can't tell that she has spent the last 8 years miserable and sad and downtrodden while her family treated her as a maid. The longing she and Captain Wentworth had for eachother. Everything that made Persuasion is missing. The 1995 movie version is so good.
The 1995 Persuasion is the best Austen adaptation of any of her books, I think.
@@sandeesandwich2180 I respectfully dispute that assertion and would argue that the 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones is the best adaptation to date. The 1995 version was severely lacking, especially in the chemistry between the main characters - there simply was none - despite a young Ciarán Hinds as Wentworth. The chemistry between Hawkins and Penry-Jones was palpable in every scene they shared, and their sorrow and heartache unmistakably evident in every look, movement, their speech and countenance.
@@sandeesandwich2180 Agree. It's the most authentic and naturalistic also. The kiss is so romantic.
Johnson looks like a time traveller. Wrong in every way.
@@meb1879 Honestly having watched the 1995 version like a million times, I feel that the Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds do have chemistry. Its more in the subtle looks they give each other. I feel Anne's pain when she looks at Frederick after coming back from the war, confronted with what she has lost and probably will never have again, trying to resolve herself to life as she knows it now. When Frederick gets upset at the opera (by the way, isn't that the most beautiful opera music you have ever heard?), I really feel his underlying passion towards her and jealously towards William Elliot and Anne. I'm not putting down the 2007 version at all, but in my opinion these two actors really captured the essence of their characters.
I read ALL of Jane Austen’s works and Persuasion is my absolute favourite. I am so excited but I must say this feels like a comedy a little too much. I hope it’s toned down in the movie. The book has a very nostalgic and introspective feel, and the characters were both heavily emotionally impacted by their painful separation years before (I’d say they are almost haunted by it). In the book you can really perceive his resentment and her sadness. She deeply regrets the past and continually wishes she could change it.
I would have expected this kind of vibe from a Northanger Abbey’s adaptation (which was written as an actual satire of gothic novels), not a Persuasion one
This ^^^^^^
The version with Ciaran Hinds as Wentworth is sublime.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeeesh
This would be such a good idea! They could definitely remake Northanger Abbey in this tone!
Jane Austin would have been mortified If she had seen her book made into such torture to watch
I think she'd like it
@@flask223 Don't be so disrespectful.
She had a sense of humour, so I reckon she would have liked it
@@aps2712 you knew her well then?
@@jeannetteharrison4011 about as well as you I'd imagine
"We're worse than exes: we're friends." Jane Austen's timelessly elegant prose and subtle social satire at its very best. FFS
I gagged. This is so disappointing 😞
That was so cringey and not of the time period. I can only imagine that Jane Austen would be rolling in her grave at that line, let alone what Netflix has done to her beautiful work just to make a buck.
@viiont eooiy I think the Masterpiece Theatre adaptation also had her character break the fourth wall but they did it in a way for the audience to see Anne's true emotions and I don't think she ever spoke directly, it was just staring into the camera.
It's a modern adaptation. the director said that all the time. stop being boring, because in the cinema everything is allowed because of art. I liked the new adaptation.
@@beatrizbaia5230 "Modern Adaption" is ironic. The director should have made a Persuasion in the "modern" era then, and not kept it in the Regency period...and then try to
modernize the early 1800s, it comes off as a cash grab
being a jane austen fan, i read Persuasion quite recently and it's her best work in my opinion. just exquisite. please let this honor the novel ( wow look at us being collectively enraged. Yet, i won’t not watch it. will I be more enraged after? probably…)
The trailer suggests they won't be honouring the novel! A lot of box tickers in it!
@@thehound9638 hmmm sounds not so great but novel or movie everything has its merits.
@@thehound9638 agree with you entirely. It seems so far off from the novel. It doesn’t capture the Jane Austen heroine’s essence at all. From the trailer it seems no one can persuade the heroine other than herself
The movie looks like a far cry from the book...Anne's gentle, sad, introverted, and introspective spirit seems to have been replaced with something closer to Elizabeth Bennet's one and this Wentworth seems to wear his emotions much more openly (and with far less resentment) than book Wentworth-- that already strips the text from its strongest components
It just can't.. There's nothing about that Jane Austen atmosphere in this trailer, they just took the plot and messed everything up. I can't imagine a true Jane Austen fan actually agreeing that this is an accurate version..
This book was important because it represented the quieter introverted girls who had there own things to offer
Agreed.
Yes!!!
Book name?
@@jashajain911 persuasion by Jane Austen
what is the piano music in the end?
Well, this has nothing in common with the real Anne from the books. She was a great female character - gentle, but strong in her own way. She was uncertain and made mistake when she was 19, but instead of making it worse by marrying someone else without love, she stayed faithful to her feelings, built strength of character and became the person everyone relies on. She was the quiet power center for her family and friends, never complaining and always ready to give snd help. And in the end these were the qualities that Wentworth recognized. Strength of character and intelligence have many aspects - no need to be a funny and sassy at all costs.
To all period dramas: stop taking Bridgerton as inspiration, especially in the humor. Jane Austen's original language was filled with subtle wit; the jokes here are so painfully obvious and unfunny. Stop modernizing everything. The beauty of Austen lies in the past.
Jealous much
@@littlesofiaisherefairly accurate but they are taking more from fleabag than Bridgerton.
I hate humor
Well people find different things funny we won’t laugh at the same jokes !! So if you didn’t like it just don’t watch it !! Go read the book
@@Lol98-wk18 Gladly. I realize that someone such as yourself probably thought that Persuasion was the fourth Fifty Shades of Grey movie, but pray don't assume your troglodytic ignorance to be true of everyone. Fix your grammar and learn how to read before trying to develop any semblance of literary understanding and appreciation. Baby steps, dear.
Persuasion is a quiet, intense novel about desperately wishing you could go back and fix the worst mistake of your life. It's meant to be overflowing with longing. It's a slow-build that turns into a pressure cooker as a plain, soft-spoken mouse of a woman tries to wrangle the courage to stand up for herself and what she wants despite enormous pressure from others. It should be moody and aesthetic and this...this is not the tone. They clearly wanted to turn Persuasion into the next Emma, but Emma and Anne have zero in common in the books, and the lessons they have to learn are completely opposite. I don't recognize Anne in this portrayal at all. Did these people even read the novel? I was so excited when I heard about this, but this looks like they don't understand the spirit of the novel or the heroine at all. Hopefully it's just a bad trailer, but this is disappointing.
Miriam you just described what I felt seeing the trailer. They changed the tone too much. It just doesn't feel like the same character!
They surely didn't understand!
The Fleabag-like breaking of 4th wall is trying hard and unnecessary.
Lastly, Dakota's accent is awful!!!!
Perfectly said! Exactly how I felt after watching.
Exactly! Anne was brainwashed by her narcissistic family into feeling like her purpose was to be invisible and accommodating. But the "Flea-bag" style monologues make her seem like just a more charming kind of narcissist. Bummer!
bravo
When I heard there would be an adaptation of Persuasion, I was pretty excited. Watching this, though, I’m… wary. Feels too much like they took comedy vibes from Bridgerton and the 2020 Emma, which I think are inappropriate for the tone of the novel Persuasion, which was more introspective and serious. Will still give it a chance, but I’m not too hopeful
You nailed it! This is totally trying to go for the quirky comedy from the 2020 Emma. But those are two very different stories, from two very different characters. So it feels very off imo.
I agree. From the trailer, this seems much too farcical to be true to the book.
I'm with you on this. I think they've taken too many liberties with the story.
Yes and I hate this, they're making experimental movies from Jane Austen and I'm not here for it 😳
Same here. Also, at least Emma 2020 got the costumes and the dialogue right - most of the characters here I'm just WHAT ARE YOU WEARING? WHERE'S YOUR BONNET? Ugh.
WE DON’T WANT THIS! We don’t want a cheap chuckle at the expense of character! We want the yearning, dramatic, heart stopping romances from our childhood!
Thank you!!! Exactly my point!!!
I want it!!! You don't speak for everyone
I fell in love with this movie! AMAZING!
YOU don’t want it, don’t speak for everyone
Most of us DON'T WANT THIS!!! If you do, you never read the book.
Favorite line from the book: "Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted again"
No, they are worse than exes; they are friends!
Friends are underrated.
So they butchered the line?
@@ellie-tk4jy completely. Especially cause the term “exes” didn’t exist in the regency era. 🙄🙄🙄
what is the piano music in the end?
@@ellie-tk4jy They not only butchered the line, but they lost the quiet resolve and despair it was meant to convey.
i love how book readers are ripping this apart, we need more of this energy, those big film companies have done enough damage to our beloved culture
Yes!!!!
EXACTLY 🙌🏼
even as the non-book reader I know this movie is a terrible idea
Yes! So happy to see all these comments.
Exactly!!!
They turned Anne Elliott into Lydia Bennet according to this trailer.
Hello, how are you
That's a nice way to put it.
even worse in my opinion, they turnes Anne elliott into Bridget Jones in my opinion.
I'm not convinced yet. I feel like Dakota is more playing Elizabeth or Emma than Anne. Anne is more reserved, mature and calm. I don't get the vibes of the novel yet. I feel they are trying to give it the same vibes as the last movie Emma, but I'm not sure it will work for Persuasion.
This is going to be shockingly bad. All the smirks to camera etc? This is not Anne at all.
Omg I was searching the comments for someone else who thought this. THANK YOU.
Agree
You re so right. Its not Anne, not at all
Plus, Dakota is a horrible actor. You're telling me they didn't have anyone else to take the role?
Jane Austen, in one of her personal letters, spoke of Anne Elliot as “too good for me”. Persuasion was written in the autumn of Austen’s life, at the height of her prowess as an author, featuring arguably her best heroine: long-suffering, consistent, gracious Anne. Anne who lives a passionate and beautiful INWARD life, whose perception pierces through everyone’s pretensions, yet has compassion for everybody’s faults, whose sense of duty and forbearance are so admirable.
Netflix just vomited over all of that to cash in with this unimaginative, careless, and pitiful excuse of an adaptation. They could not have done a worse job if they had hated Austen and her final completed novel.
They took beautiful Anne and reduced her to a “pick me” girl, a “Not Like Other Girls” girl.
🙄
I'm hopelessly depressed about this thing called "an adaptation''
I couldn’t agree more. I’m currently listening to Persuasion for the - times and just regurgitated a bit what I just had for lunch. Ghastly.
@@julia_btfl same :’( I think it says something about how close to sublime Persuasion as a novel is that all its readers feel the offence of this “adaptation” so keenly. They treated the masterpiece so poorly. And so condescending to anyone who hasn’t read the book. Like we don’t already have enough “BoSs BaBe” heroines in film and literature and would appreciate the breath of fresh air that is Anne Elliot, whose strength is in her softness.
@@grisg.4121 ghastly indeed! Made me feel sick when I first saw the trailer too.
I couldn't agree more! This is an "adaptation" for gen Z and so called inclusivness, a little bit of This and that thrown in to make it more digestible for the masses.
Nahh how could anyone replace the original beautiful words with “we’re worse than exes, we’re friends” and still sleep soundly at night 🥴 Jane’s rolling in her grave 😩
what were the original words?
@@TheMeesa "Now they were as strangers; worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted."
How could they call this appalling movie an adaptation? Poor Jane Austen, how could she rest in peace with all the things these people are doing
@@julia_btfl maybe she can rest in peace because the next life is more about who created her than what she created here.
One of the main points of the novel is that they are not even friends. They act like people who met briefly long ago and now only talk to each other because they socialise with the same people.
I think she is smiling that her story set in the Recency Era of England resonates with people globally in the 21st century. As a writer and an undercover cultural anthropologist she would accept that like social norms, language also evolves. Hence some changes were made by contemporizing the cast and the words, but the plot is no less the same.
Who ever directed and wrote this movie didn't understand the two most important characters. Also the whole point of the story is the uncertaintly of how Captain Wentworth is feeling. This movie left no mystery at all, his feelings are written all over his face.
“We’re worse than exes… we’re friends.” I’m sure this will be a cute story, but it is mostly certainly not Jane Austen.
imagine gatekeeping the work of a woman who died like 200 years ago, just imagine....
@@antemiuenteri it's not gatekeeping, they're expressing dissatisfaction in the poor choice of writing in the script. all adaptions modernize the writing from JA's novels but the inclusion of the word ex takes you out of zone of suspension of disbelief. People are allowed their opinions, don't go throwing around buzzwords that don't even fit the situation. the line was irksome to a lot of people not just one.
I cringed so much at that line
Cringy
Yeah, that line makes me think they should’ve just made this a modern retelling.
Though from the trailer this Anne doesn’t really seem like the Anne from the novel or other adaptations, she seems more like Lizzie Bennet, as others have noted.
Dakota Johnson basically plays herself in every role she takes on. You can modernize a classic without removing it's heart & soul. Unfortunately, Netflix didn't get the message.
Her acting leads me to sleep.
I liked her compared to Wentworth his acting just didn't convince me at all. He looked on drugs! Perhaps all the pressure!?
that smarmy smirk never leaves Dakota Johnson's face ....... hardly an Anne Elliot!
@@CatrionaRuadh that alone, if nothing else, would be enough to turn me off of this adaptation.
I wished Joe Wright wrote the screenplay. One of my favs has to be Pride and Prejudice. Kiera Knightly would have added so much depth and intrigue to Anne's character.
Pride and Prejudice: "You have bewitched me body and soul.”
Netflix: "See it's your booty, that's drivin' me crazy"
☠️☠️☠️☠️
Great take. Although Austen never wrote the "bewitched". It did fit the tone of the novel at least!
I did not like the "bewitched" line, but I could accept it for modern audiences sake. I won't say the same for Persuasion (at least according to this trailer).
😂 HA HA! TRUTH! That’s why I canceled my subscription
lmao
I'll say one good thing as praise to this movie: It made me want to read the book again so that's what I'm gonna do.
WHY?! WHY people want so bad to destroy Jane’s masterpiece? Couldn’t Netflix made movie with similar storyline and then turned it into comedy?? Persuasion is definitely the most realistic story that Jane wrote and you made a joke of it.
If someone wants to see good Persuasion movie, I recommend the adaptation from *1995* year.
That one is THE BEST- but also please read the book!👍🏽
1995 version is the best
With the Bath City Marathon sprint at the end🤔
@@Greenwillow bath city marathon 🤣 🤣
The 2007 adaptation does cut out a lot of scenes but I would say it captures the essence of the original book more accurately than the 1995 version
It just could have been a period romance in its own right it didn’t have to be a stain on a Jane Austen classic
Persuasion is one of Austen's best. This version seems to lose all of the tension from the story, by removing the social restraints that held Dakota Johnson's character back and instead making her seem too independent and world-wise to be persuaded by anyone. So there's no arc for this version of the character to follow, it's just a drawn out will-they-won't-they connecting the dots along a rom-com plot path - at least by the feel of the trailer. The book uses the love story to critique social issues of the time, especially the limitations on a woman's ability to choose anything for herself, which makes the ending uncertain until the lead character alters her previous pattern and breaks away from social pressures to choose the path she prefers but that society forbids for shallow and arbitrarily sexist reasons. It's satisfying not just because she gets her love, but because she's brave, she beats the odds stacked against her, and she puts society in its place instead. Otherwise, this version looks very pretty and Dakota is charming, as usual.
This exactly!
I wrote elsewhere in the comments that presenting Anne as fiestier doesn't work for this reason.
Lizzie Bennett's growth was to not jump so quickly to assumptions or be prejudiced against people based on minimal interaction. This is why Wickham is able to hoodwink her, even though there are hints in the text that he is not being honest from the jump.
Conversely Anne Elliot is more mature and wise, her instincts are sound and based on careful observation (she refuses to accept Mr Elliott's proposal, even though it would solve loads of her problems and everyone she loves is saying "Bitch, you better marry that guy!" because she knows something doesn't add up about him*). Her arc is the opposite of Lizzie's in that she need to learn to trust herself, stand up for herself and put herself first for once.
If you combine the best traits of both characters, as this trailer seems to show, Lizzie's wit and forthrightness, Anne's perceptiveness and generosity.... That's a perfect person! There's no nuance or room for growth!
*This is also why Persuasion does not work as a love triangle. Mr Elliot is up to no good and Anne never trusts him. If you make Anne more gullible you remove a key aspect of her character, but that's another issue
Well the trailer makes it seem like that for sure. I'll clearly watch it since I love Jane Austen, but this almost feels like maybe Netflix had their hands too far into it. It'll be interesting to see them take on Austen because the last adaption of Emma, which got theatre release was really enjoyable. I wonder if they picked this project because of Bridgerton, but at the same time Bridgerton can barely be compared to Austen or her works even if they set them both in the regency era.
@@sarahcox4292 I like your analysis of Lizzie and Anne but I don't think we know for sure that Anne is more guillable in this adaptation based on this trailer. To me, she seems charmed by him but still cautious, as if she knows she must be careful. I am keeping an open mind until I see it.
@@madisonestes9381 I agree with you there. I will definitely be watching so hopefully that is a misinterpretation on my part.
The tension... The slow burn was everything... Favorite Jane Austen novel
No and no. Persuasion is my favorite of Jane Austen's books because it had a gravitas the previous books lacked. Anne does not have hunks of jam on her face and has the chamber pot fall on her. Anne is dignified, she is strong for everyone else. Not everything needs to be Bridgerton, for the love of God.
I don't like Bridgerton.
They ruined Bridgerton with season 2, now it's time to ruin Pursuasion too 😮💨
@@shoujofanatic season 2 > season 1
I love Bridgerton but I get why people are mad at this adaptation
Exactly this was giving so much bridgerton haha
Thank you to everybody who is in the same boat as me. They butchered our girl. This should say LOOSELY based on the book because I feel like the only things in common they have are the names of the characters. I’m so bummed that they felt the need to change it up soooo much. It was nice to see diversity in the cast, but that’s the only compliment I can pay this trailer.
It should say loosely based on the times never mind the book.
The weird thing about diversity is, if they did a movie about Japan in the 1800s they wouldn’t just throw random white people in there. If they did a movie about Africa in the 1800s, they wouldn’t throw random Asian or white people in there. It’s stupid to just put diversity into Jane Austen just to be politically correct.
@@patriciamay6396 lol this was not a period piece. it was a terrible austen adaptation so it truly did not matter who the characters were played by. nothing about political correctness here.
and it does go the other way all the time as you have described.
please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please this is the best Jane Austen book, please keep it as it is, please please please
I think it is going to be a comedy/parody 😭😭
There's a Vogue article about this adaptation.....all it seemed like they wanted to talk about is how quirky and silly this movie is going to be...NOOOOO 😭😭😭
@@EmilyJJaynes I WILL CRY
They're not going to keep it as it is because they have no creative integrity or world-building.
Netflix don't care about Jane Austen, they're just using her work as a platform to push "THE MESSAGE"...
@@MeliMant i missed the part where that's my problem
I think they got the mood wrong. Persuassion it’s about longing about what Anne thought was lost when she left Wentworth.
I’ve read Austen and Persuassion remains her most introspective work, the less comedic one, and the most critical of all in terms how society and class can separate people apart.
Amen
I am an Austen fan, but have yet to read ‘Persuasion’. I am thoroughly pleased to see avid readers as myself who have read it, are NOT pleased with this adaptation based on this particular trailer. The thoughtful, sensible analyses in the comments section against this adaptation’s tone and mood have been a pleasure to read. Keep sounding the displeased alarm, fellow bibliophiles.
Lesson for Netflix: don't mess with the Jane Austen's fandom 😂
wasn't Anne supposed to be a bit insecure and reserved in the time leading up to and then seeing Wentworth again? Dakota comes of as too confident and wallowing, but not the quiet reserved Anne I'm thinking she should be. I prefer the Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Roote version, even if people think they look too old, the acting is a lot more subtle and you can feel the emotion better
Why the hell is her hair down!!?!!!!!! Her character is like 27 or something, not 12, their hair was never down even at home after like the age of 18, only maybe right before bed
did they just stick her in a beret like it was 1900!?!!!, I live in France, and NO ONE wears a beret except weird tourists, old men, and people that live in Marseille or in the Basque region, hahahhaha, and while the beret has an old history, I highly doubt an English woman in like 1818 would've been wearing it
Did the writers have her use the word "ex", hahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahhahaha, I know they are trying to piggyback off the success of Bridgerton, but Bridgerton is legit fantasy, while the work of Jane Austen even though fiction is definitely not. I mean, I understand why they did it thinking the language of Austen might be too complicated for speakers in our generation, but nah, man, we can still understand it, especially presented in context
And don't mention the blind casting, I have absolutely no problem with that, I'm only mentioning it in case people think I have a problem with it, I definitely don't have a problem with blind casting
@@aeolia80 Thanks for the more critical reaction. Good to hear a differing POV, and from a book reader at that.
And also, yeah, I too was slightly thrown off when they used the word "exes", I always felt like that was modern language, not something you'd hear from someone in the early 1800s.
@@aeolia80 This was me watching the first season of Sanditon. MC has her hair down for most of the movie and she's supposed to be 'out' in society. A regency woman would never.
What Persuasion deserves is a drama series. Even the past movies doesn’t bring out the best of this novel and it’s characters.
Agreed. I think the best Austen adaptations are the ones which are a series. There's so many layers that condensing it to 2 hours max is impossible. See Emma 2020 for this one.
i thought 1995 persuasion was almost perfect
A mini-series would be great (if done right). There is so much to flesh out in the main characters during the engagement (I imagine a happy younger Anne and Wentworth) and then in the later years after the ending of the engagement and they meet again.
There is a mini series with the actress from the shape of water as Anne. I thought it was really good
I think Persuasion 1995 was VERY good, in my opinion all characters there were perfect and the movie was faithful to the book to the most part.
I really like Jane Austen's Persuasion and I really hope this trailer is deceiving because it almost seems like they have decided to mock the story, it's coming off more as a parody rather than a true adaptation
BTW just watched it and my advice don't bother they completely butchered the characters and the dialogue.
I don't understand how they can get everything do wrong even though it's all written down for them in a book.
It honestly reminds me a lot of Autumn DeWilde’s Emma adaptation, which I thought was delightful
That’s how I feel. Like they’re trying to make It more in the style of Pride and Prejudice or Emma. Persuasion is more emotional and Anne is not Lizzie Bennet.
@@erikdaniels0n Emma is supposed to be poking fun persuasion is supposed to have more of a serious tone.
yes my problem is Anne Elliot is a different kind of character than Emma and Lizzie Bennett and this trailer makes it look like Jane Austen only wrote one type of female character
To me it just seems like they dispensed with Anne and replaced her with Elizabeth tbh. Like if they were so desperate for a snarky, comedic, assertive heroine why bother adapting persuasion? Do p&p, Emma, or northanger abbey again. Or I could even live with like turning a marianne into this kind of character. But to do it to Anne is just like.. why? Why remove some of the most poignant elements of persuasion? I feel like if this is how Hollywood chooses interprets her in the 21st century, I’ll never see a tone-appropriate Anne Elliot or Fanny Price.
I watched this yesterday evening and I've been SCREAMING all along. They butchered the story in a horrifying way, disrespecting each and every character, but mostly our dear Anne Eliott. They made her an alcoholic ffs !!! You wanna make Bridgerton shit, go write your own Bridgerton shit but leave Austen's work at peace. I am so angry right now. How could anyone jump into this shitshow is beyond me.
Has anyone seen the series Sanditon ? It was made with utter respect to Jane Austen's phylosophy and work. The actors are amazing, the costumes, everything. It is remarkable and was made by true Austen lovers. The person who wrote this version of Persuasion could really learn from it.
The only thing worth saving in this version of Persuasion is THE FREAKING RABBIT, that says a lot about the whole mess.
I didn’t read the novel but I think I will now I couldn’t keep watch the movie and yes I watched sadniton and you’re right it was amazing I enjoyed every episode
ATROCIOUS CASTING TO PUT THIS 50-Shades of Grey ''individual'' in the lead role who simply just cannot f****** ACT.!!!
I love Sanditon. Even though I consider myself an Austen fan I didn't know it was her work before I started watching the show. While I was watching the very first episode I thought, this feels like an Austen novel, could it be? So I paused the episode and googled it and confirmed it was. That's how good a job they did of staying true to Austen's style of storytelling. I could tell it was based on her works from half an episode without prior knowledge that it was.
it's one of the most awful romcoms/romances ive seen in years. netflix really butchered the story
Dakota's voice here is like a calming balm to the soul.
its really not
Seconded, I instantly feel more relaxed just hearing Dakota's calming voice.
*Always Has Been*
@@serenityq26 140+2 people and counting said otherwise. also ratio.
Ah you have just discover of WHY WE LOVE JANE AUSTIN SO MUCH
Dakota Johnson just fits her role perfectly. I’m so stoked to see yet another Jane Austen novel being adapted into a movie in 2022. Quite surprising to see Henry Golding in this as well. Overall, based on the trailer alone, it’s gonna be an immense rollercoaster.
She's too pretty to be Anne Elliot imo.
No she doesn't
Her performance is same in all movies, no improvement, no voice change or accent
Someone else would have done better job than her
@@LMD11 yea i got so excited when i learned there was a new movie but i can't stand this actress :'( and it's my favorite jane austen novel
I love Dakota but she can’t do an English accent, I find it surprising because it’s quite easy to master if you hire a voice coach
henry golding has white father privilege that's why he easily got the role. Imagine if his mum was white and his dad wasn't white. He wouldn't be getting hollywood roles
When hearing Dakota’s voice, it’s like listening to a good ASMR
With these accents it’s not that hard
@@37654 🥱
Indeed, her voice is so soothing and relaxing to listen to, making her a perfect fit for a period piece.
no. its torture
Asmr ?
Although i have never read the book, what i loved about the 2007 ITV version, featuring the brilliant Sally Hawkins, is the intensity of pain Anne goes through. So raw and so real. We feel her anguish and love her all the more for it. This new film seems to create the wrong tone for my favourite Jane Austen novel
Why can't they just leave these books alone? Why the constant lack of respect for history?
Yes, I love this version.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Leftists only know how to destroy culture and cultural Icons. Expect it to continue when they occupy all the institutions.
The 2007 version was awesome. Why have they made Anne like Brigitte Jones?
The best version of all movies!!
I usually love adaptations that do something new and interesting with the source material (I really enjoyed 'Fire Island' as a take on Pride and Prejudice'). But this really seems to miss what people love about Persuasion and turn Anne into a fiesty, Lizzie-Bennet-turned-up-to-11 character, instead of the somewhat ground down by her family, but still highly perceptive, intelligent and strong in her convictions character that so spoke to me.
Perhaps the sadness of Anne, feeling left on the shelf at 27 and living her life for others, cannot translate to a modern audience directly because we rightly don't identify with being single as a failing anymore. But surely there was some way of changing the circumstances while staying true to the sadness and longing of the book without turning the story into a farce and Anne into a typical fiesty herione. Not really hopeful about this one based on the trailer alone... hopefully this is misrepresentative.
OMG YES. I DEFO FEEL THE SAME.
IT'S LIKE THE TONE IS DIFFERENT
i agree
You articulate my misgivings this trailer gave me. Anne is Not Lizzie, she can’t be. I am a Austen fan and will probably watch this but this Anne just doesn’t feel like Anne to me.
I agree. They could change the tone without changing the character so much. She's the center of the story, it's nor Persuasion if they change her. I hate when they change the story SO much that they're really just trying to profit off the author's/book's name by calling it so.
Totally agree. Although Anne is a smart, beautiful, kind woman, there's this sense of feeling unworthy or how you described: being left in the shell that I don't quite feel being portrayed by Dakota (and I love Dakota). Let's hope that the movie prove us wrong.
I wrote a fanfiction once where Anne Elliot was a relatively minor character on a magic flying ship whose only real role in the story was to get kidnapped alongside Fanny and Susan Price by evil warlock Henry Crawford and I still think my version was closer to actual Persuasion than this...
Lol
I probably need your fanfic to cleanse my palate after I watch this version of Persuasion lol
😂😂😂
Can I, please, read your fanfic? It sounds marvelous!!
@@marieb3525 it's called "Those Prevailing Happy Stars" (my penname is Raphaela Crowley)
Persuasion is my favorite Jane Austen book. As much as I love Dakota, making Anne a carbon copy character of a modern woman rather than respecting her honest struggles and strengths during the historical moment the character lives in is actually a disservice to her ability. I would have loved to see Dakota portray Anne as she really is. It would have been phenomenal.
Persuasion deserves better respect than this.
I really love Dakota
But i’m not quite sure she is a good actress enough to portray such a deep character.
The other problem is that those new productions always try to make stories more Modern.
That’s very sad. They did the same with Agatha Christie’s Poirot.
A total 😢
Not every movie needs pop culture references that will age like milk to future audiences. Why can't we just have historically accurate period dramas? It feels like they are trying to ride off of the success of Fleabag with the fourth wall breaks. If they want to add modern elements they should do it right like Knights Tale did or not do it at all lol.
I adore the 2007 BBC movie version of Persuasion with Sally Hawkins. It's one of my mom's favorite movies and she made me watch it as a teen and I loved it. Sally truly captured the spirit of Anne Eliot.
Agreed. Love that adaptation it was a stunning portrayal
My wife ended up frustrated by it because they screwed up the ending of the story. It was otherwise well acted.
The 1995 version is much better! (The ending of the 2007 version is a travesty, and the casting atrocious.)
It wasn't perfect, but it's definitely my favorite Persuasion adaptation so far. I don't know why so many people love the '95 version, it's one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, right up there with Jeremiah Johnson.
This is not Austen's Persuasion. Anne was a really serious and timid character. This seems to be a "fanfic" of Persuasion than an adaptation. The problem is that is "sold" like the real thing, which is NOT when you completely change the main character personality
Agree, doesn't seem to get the tone of its source material at all.
Yup my thoughts
Well it is an adaptation so it doesn't have to be 1 to 1. I guess it's just a matter of whether it's well received or not. Books are an entirely different format and perhaps they made certain choices because otherwise it would not hold the audiences attention. Time will tell
There is a fine line between honoring the written word of Austen and trying to flow with the popular shows Bridgerton etc. I’m in no way an Austen purist, but I feel one can over popularize for the sake of revenue. I will watch this as it has always been one of my favorites🌺
@@gemelwalters2942 Sure, it doesn't have to be a 1 to 1 (actually I think it never should)-but it should understand its source material and Persuasion is a very unique book compared to Austen's other novels, that deals a lot with regret, nostalgia and vanity. This just looks like Bridgerton.
What's next? A zany, slapstick, rom-com version of Romeo and Juliet?
The power of Persuasion is not Anne being caught making fun of Wentworth while zanily not aware she has jam on her lip. It's about two people overwhelmed by the sadness and regret (on her part) and anger (initially, on his part, still bitter over her rejection of him) of being in the presence of someone you once loved, while also surrounded by self-absorbed idiots who don't even remember what you once meant to each other.
Netflix butchered Anne Elliot for me. Anne Elliot is most unique introvert character. And this is not Austen's Miss Elliott. So much disappointed for ruining a beautiful character.
As Netflix always does...
I'm so looking forward to the pining and another handsome hunk saying - "You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant."
But this version seems to have made Anne quirky and adorable, but she is the most mature and calm of Austen's heroines. I guess they are going for the 2020 Emma version feel. This might be interesting and bring levity to an otherwise melancholy story.If they overdo the quirky ditzy thing it would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. It's a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. They are truly haunted by their long separation. She has such heart wrenching internal monologues about Friedrich in the book. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.
I'm swooning just reading that.
@@tsjohnson5 I squeal every time I read it!
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Exactly my thoughts. As a movie this might be fun but as an adaptation it looks terrible lol
Yes this is what I felt too reg. 2020 Emma quirkiness. I love the Sally Hawkins version and I think this is going to be very different from that but I'm looking forward to it!
I’m totally shocked at this adaptation of Persuasion! Persuasion is my favorite novel by Jane Austen and that’s due to understanding Anne so well. She’s an introvert, who is shy and still has a longing for a lost love. This adaptation totally changes who Anne is and how Jane Austen wrote the character. I was so looking forward to a new Persuasion, but I won’t be watching this adaptation. So sad! 😓
It's like this is the sister film to 1999 Mansfield Park. Even down to the quirk narrator in the trailer. People keep comparing it to 2020 Emma, but they forget EMMA was GOOD; the costumes were right and Anya had period appropriate hair and the soundtrack was all old hymns and sounded very 1800s... This is nothing like that, it's just Mansfield Park all over again. Are we this scared to have a quiet heroine? I want my book accurate Anne Elliot and Fanny Price, please, not more Elizabeth Bennet knock offs.
Persuasion is my fave Austen too and this trailer is such a let down. I won’t watch it. Periodt.
I’ll rewatch the 2007 adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones. Now that’s my Anne and Capt. Wentworth.
@@lovetolovefairytales ooohh curious… have you seen the Mansfield Park 2007 adaptation with Billie Piper and Blake Ritson?
@@maggiepie765 yes, that one actually is pretty good. I own the Blu-ray. Left a lot out, but it still tried to be the book and not its own thing. Also the little it did add was actually darling: the Fanny/Edmund kiss, the wedding waltz, Tom Bertram calling Fanny "the best girl alive"? Makes me melt like butter on a pancake.
@@lovetolovefairytales OK, thanks for the recommendation.
Little correction: Timeless stories. All Jane Austen's work is a masterpiece.
Agreeeeeee
Asten's work is a timeless masterpiece, this is a piece of crap.
EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I've always found it sad that her talent was never fully recognized until many years after her death, and the fact that we still read her novels today is telling, when most other authors of that time are long forgotten (not surprisingly, having read a few of their works!). In 1817, the only public reference to Jane Austen by name is in the newspapers that reported her death in July. Northanger Abbey and Persuasion, which came out in the December of that year, were simply advertised as by the Author of Pride and Prejudice etc.
It satisfies and relieves my poor heart quite a lot, seeing all the austen lovers unite as once to acknowledge what a monstrosity this film is.
Getting an adaptation right is about understanding the tone of the story, more than anything. That's why people still love the 2005 P&P, even though there's a lot that was changed from the book - the tone is right and it evokes the same emotions. Emma 2020 worked so well because the book is already a comedy, so quirky characters and funny bits don't seem out of place. You'll notice, however, that where they modernized scenes and actions and dynamics, they made sure to have accurate costumes, hair and makeup, which means there's a balance there that keeps it realistically period. This seems to have neither. It doesn't seem like the right tone, the right personalities, the right clothes, the right hair or the right makeup. It feels like they looked at the novel and thought hm, let's make Anne a little bit more Not Like Other Girls™. It might've been better if they went the Clueless route and only claimed to be based on the book, it would've made the changes less jarring.
It clearly says “based on” at the start.
Agree. For me it's the getting the tone of the characters right. I can get on board with costumes, music and even storylines differing from the books or other adaptations or historical accuracy, but making characters more "modern" or "relatable" never works and yes, it reeks of Not Like Other Girls, which is tired and off putting to say the least.
@@thewildaly yes, but then calling it Persuasion seems kind of dishonest, doesn’t it? Of course, not having seen it yet, we’re all speculating, but the trailer shows a pretty superficial treatment if comparing to the original, or other more serious film versions.
@@zeearchers720 I think what the trailer is trying to show us is that there was artistic license taken with the main character. But the plot, other characters, the conflict, and setting looked like they were based on the novel Persuasion by Jane Austen.
I can't bear the 2005 P and P so there is that. I do love the BBC Colin Firth one. To me he understood Darcy in a way no other actor has.
I think this looks like it might be good? I'll give it chance. She is a good actress.
I've always thought that Dakota should led a period piece, especially a Jane Austen adaptation. Dreams really DO come true sometimes!
That's so amazing to read !
Nah, this looks like a joke. Jane Austen is a dumb author.
Me toooo! So exciteddddd
I don't think I've ever disliked a trailer more in my whole life. My fav Austen novel... still waiting for a decent adaptation...
The fact that a really good sounding one with Sarah Snook was also supposed to be coming out and got cancelled hurts me.
ITV’s adaptation with Sally Hawkins was pretty good apart from some of the creative decisions in the ending
@@LadyAhro my thoughts too. So disappointed.
@@beomgguks970 I agree the adaptation is alright, BUT... my main pet peeve regarding Persuasion is how nobody seems to portray Anne's personality accurately. She is not meek, she is not dumb and she is not traumatised... she is simply too rational, sensible and mature for her age. Sally Hawkin's portrayal was not good IMHO - it was too anxious, bordering on unhinged. I like Amanda Root's portrayal better, but still... it was too meek for Anne. She is amazing as a character, complex and nuanced and interesting, and the best thing about the novel, and I wish I could see it one day on the screen.
I thought the 1995 version was an excellent adaptation. Have you seen it?
Sadly, this is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad adaptation. I wonder if the writers ever actually read Persuasion before because they completely misunderstood who Anne Elliot is and have turned her character into Bridget Jones. Completely ridiculous!
When you have to ask whether the director actually read the book, you know ow bad it's gotten in the film establishment.
I saw this trailer yesterday and was like... no. No no no no no no no.... they did NOT try to turn my favorite of Jane Austen's novels into the Regency version of Fleabag. Persuasion is not a rom-com, it's a poignant story of regret, maturity, and second chances. Definitely giving this a miss and rewatching the movie with Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root ASAP.
Thanks for the recommendation. 'Persuasion' is my favourite Jane Austen novel and the tone of this trailer is all WRONG.
So funny you mentioned that. It DID remind me of Fleabag. So strange.
“Now, we’re worse than exes. We’re friends.”
I’ll pass on this one.
Let me save you the trouble. Watch the 1995 version of Persuasion with Amanda Root. It captures the deep mature introspection of Persuasion. Even from the trailer, you see this film and this character are completely dissonant from the book.
If you want a Bridgerton-esque romcom, by all means watch this new film and have fun. But if you want to experience Jane Austen's brilliant and most mature book, watch the 1995 version or better yet, give it a read.
Yes! It’s still my favorite adaptation and by the looks of this trailer, that’s not going to change any time soon.
I agree 100 percent. I even watched the 1970ish version and 1995 was the best. I did not mind the 2007 version either but the 1995 version felt more mature and there was more nonverbal tension that felt more realistic. The tender way they announced their feelings was hands down the best.
@@elainajoyce9040 Yes! And I loved the way they covered Wentworth’s letter in the 1995 version too.
@@elainajoyce9040 that 70s adaptations is also special in its own way. I believe it here on youtube. I enjoy that one and the 1995 one at least once a year. Prob my fav austin book after p&p
Persuasion deserves a good & faithful film adaptation, and the 1995 version is it for me. I won't need this new one. I don't know why they had to change Anne like that. There was nothing wrong with her in the first place.
Why on earth they try to modernize dialogue to appeal the audience when the real reason we want to watch period dramas is for things like: "you have bewitched me body and soul"
Has anyone written a better love letter than Wentworth's to Anne Elliot? The film establishment has no idea what it's ruining. Makes you ask whether they read the book they're butchering.
Although that line wasn't in the book, it certainly did a better job than these dialogues here 😂
hmm…that particular line reads pretty modern to me. not as bad as “hangry” though
Persuasion is one of my favourite books.. I've read it countless number of times.. Mostly because Anne's character resonates with mine. Anne is calm, quiet and introverted. Not mischievous or fiesty. There's a sort of serenity and grace in the character Austen had written. And though I shouldn't be judging this before watching it, the trailer has let me down immensely. This comes nowhere close to the previous adaptation in the late 2000s. Which I would easily prefer over this new modern one.
It was terrible. Anne was not Anne at all.
@@oldfashionemily did you watch it already?
I watch it last night, excited of course. The opening scene was glorious but 5 minutes into the movie my heart was just broken to pieces, they murdered my Anne.
I agree. Don't rewrite Jane Austen just because audiences expect feisty heroines!
@@marcogaming2099 oh, that's horrible! :( It's obvious from the trailer that that's what happened, but you've confirmed this sad thing.
Why would anyone do this?! Why is Anne being quirky and kind of flirty? Why would Anne make herself a funny element? Anne is a heroine to so many calm, intelligent, introverted, reflective and witty female personalities (which is so rare form of representation) and being one such personalities I am a bit disappointed with this version. This film makes me appreciate and love the novel and Anne (from the book) even more than before...
Yes the 1995 and 2007 movie versions do have the right tone. But this one doesn't
what is the piano music in the end?
First off, I'll come out and say it. I enjoyed the Bridgerton series. However, not every period piece needs to be modelled after it. Certainly not Jane Austen!
Jane Austen's works are a blend of romance and strong, bold characters emerging amidst societal restrictions. Perhaps the actual movie will reflect this, but the trailer does not give me much hope of that.
I'm feeling quite let down and I haven't even watched the movie yet :-(
Agree - must all movies now be so WOKE and politically correct, while sacrificing accuracy ?
Yes exactly! Bridgerton works so well because it was unique and one of its kind when it came out. Every other period drama that copies bridgerton is just not going to be very successful.
Bridgerton is fantasy type world, and it's by a modern day author. But Austen wrote during the Georgian era, the CB Casting doesn't work very well, it detracts from the plot and makes it unbelievable. Unless they want to take the universal themes of Austen books, and set them in modern times, where they're are less limitations.
Bridgerton worked because it was a fantasy.
I have no idea why they're cutting and pasting it onto Jane Austen.
Having black/bi racial/Asian people as aristocrats in regency England immediately rips the viewer out of the world Netflix are supposed to be building.
Agreed we don’t need all period pieces to fit into the 2022 style.
Jane Austen would probably have something ruthlessly ironic to say about this horror
There’s a bbc persuasion movie that I highly recommend. It’s one of the best period movies and romance movies ever. I love Dakota and am excited to see it being adapted still in 2022 but this looks a little too quirky. It’ll be interesting to see but I hope it doesn’t bastardise the og and just make her fun and quirky. Anne is unlike many if Austens leading women much more introspective and introverted than other leads while still being extremely strong.
whats a period movie
@@hiteshadari4790 a movie set during a specific historical period that isn’t modern or recent - so the regency period, Victorian period, gilded age, etc !
Why did they make her into a pale copy of Lizzie Bennett instead of leaning into who Anne Elliot actually was?
It’s such a great movie, especially the music. You can really feel all the emotions.
The bbc movie is one of my absolute favourites. The leads and the whole storytelling and armosphere was just perfect
In my opinion, Persuasion is Jane Austen’s most mature novel and its protagonist’s struggles dwell upon that exact concept. If this movie is revealed to be little more than this trailer depicts-a sappy, gushy, fourth wall breaking soap drama tailored to the bored couch-sitters returning from their ninth binge of Bridgerton, my soul will be all agony, no hope.
Please for the love of God, Netflix, prove me wrong.
Just watched it. WHAT WAS THAT!?! Everything wrong with the Netflix adaptation of one of Jane Austen's greatest novels: Persuasion- EVERYTHING. Anne Elliot is my favorite Austen heroine. They butchered a masterpiece...
It's just this arrogant, modern attitude, not only thinking that they know better than Austen, but assuming that we in the 21st century cannot understand a book written over 200 years ago. Yet from the comments' section, it's obvious that people understand Austen's message today just as wel as her audience did when she published Persuasion. (Maybe even more so, given the volumes of studies into her works which have been published.) Why can't these filmmakers respect history and even admit that people who lived hundreds of years ago can still teach us?
They ruined Anne. They ruined Persuasion. I love Dakota but the script was treacherous
I ADORE 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones.
Only seen it once, but I really enjoyed it.
Funny thing is, i was so excited for this Netflix Persuasion. I was excited when i saw the first look of Anne Elliot (i believe it came out last year) and i installed Netflix and paid for my Netflix last month just because i was waiting for this. Persuasion is my most favorite Austen book and Anne Elliot is my most favorite Austen character/heroine because of her sensible, quiet, calm, kind, humble, non self-centric characteristic. This is not her and this doesn't feel like Persuasion at all. We'll see but i'm already disappointed big time.
Same. This feels much more like Emma. Did they even read the novel?!
It doesn't come out until next month so why would you have paid for Netflix last month in order to see it? Sounds like you probably should have just waited if that's true.
@@thetramp123 because i was afraid to miss it and i didn't hv the app before so i decided to install it and also to register it fully and see what is inside i needed to pay
Oh god... I have a feeling this is gonna miss the point and tone of the story completely. Anyway, there's already a perfect Persuasion adaptation and it's the highly underrated '95 version (not the 2007 version that one sucks too). That movie captures the essence and spirit of the characters and story so well. An actual contemplative slow burn that still has one of the BEST romantic climactic moments ever with the way they did the letter scene.
I’m so glad you mentioned the ‘95 movie! I agree 100%. That adaptation was perfection and really brought the characters to life for me. I have doubts about this one…
May I live long enough to see the ’95 version outdone! It is peerless.
The 1995 film is almost perfect. 2007 is dreadful
Couldn't agree more! The Ciaran Hinds/Amanda Root version from '95 is unmatched. This trailer feels so departed from the intended tone of the novel. Very disappointing!
Yes! The tone and atmosphere of the 1995 version is just spot on, I love it so much
I have never seen a trailer that does a book/story so wrong in my life. If this movie ends up being bridgerton 2.0 instead of being the beautiful heartwrenching story that it is, I will be very very sad.
Well, it's PG...so hopefully not Bridgerton 2.0.
@@mrbojangles1391 s2 bridgerton was pg save for a few minutes. 🤣
This is a parody, not a film about Anne of Jane Austen
Oh this is weird.... I was excited for this because Anne Elliot is my most favorite Austen character and Persuasion is my favorite Austen book...but this feels so entirely different 😭😭but i'm still gonna watch and let's see
The book is poignant and has a serious but mysterious feel to it but this just feels very goofy
well, it's Netflix... will be different, probably more afro-americans, LMBTQ people then Jane Austin imagined🤭
That awful modern, loose hair is more than just an aesthetic choice, it shows how they view the character. Anne as a character would never, never look so unkept in the company of others.
Also in comparison to everyone else it stands out, but not in a good way.
Exactly!!!
Even when it's properly done - side part with sweeping bangs? Excuse me? Honestly my first thought when I saw photos of the costumes was that I've seen more accurate school productions. I didn't even recognize them as regency era. Someone had to tell me it was an Austen film. I thought it was a modern movie that just had a dark academia/cottagecore aesthetic.
Boo hoo
This is so she stands out, heh, and the audience can relate to her. It's been done in many period and historical pieces. The main actress (probably sometimes the main actor, too) also wears more modern dresses and accessories. It does look off, indeed. I think they overdid it with the loose hair, but the bun with bangs was just enough.
Writer, producer, director : How much different than the book do you want this to be?
Netflix : YES
*Btw do you remember back then when they made Mansfield Park's Fanny Price as an extrovert, Lizzie Bennet kind of a girl? And how was the reception? Yes, this seems like a good idea, Netflix.
They’ve taken a classic and absolutely crapped all over it. Jane Austen would be appalled.
Apparently, they've decided to update this story by making Anne into a buffoon and her father into a narcissistic ninny. Also, Wentworth spent much of the novel ignoring Anne when he returned after eight years, actively pursuing other women in front of her. They barely had any conversations together. That provided much of the pathos of the original novel; they both had a great deal of unspoken pain from their separation that they were forced to repress. This is NOT a comedy and it distorts the novel to make it one.
Anne’s father IS a narcissistic ninny
@@srkh8966 I don't recall that. I remember him being house and class proud but not physically vain.
@@QueenBoadicea Oh, no-he has mirrors everywhere and shirked from being around unattractive men and women
The renters of the house were disturbed by the number of mirrors (and I think something about the placement too?). And physical appearance was a major source of conversation.
@@andurilcuivie Exactly. Much is made of the unattractive complexions of naval officers in particular.
The character of Anne is someone who was persuaded to not marry her beau, and her "bloom has been lost". She is a quiet but upstanding honorable soul. Anne is not quirky. I like Dakota ok, but am sure there is a British actress that should have gotten this role. Especially since all of the other actors are British to my knowledge - Finally, I have never seen someone's hair down in a period piece unless they were a child or going to bed. --- This all being said, I will watch and most likely enjoy this. I do hope the yearning love of the characters comes through.
As I watched this trailer, I thought, “But this isn’t the Anne Elliot I know and love. Where is the humble, self-sacrificing woman who puts others first? And why is her hair down? That isn’t Regency at all.” Glad to see the comments section agrees. Sorry, Netflix, but you have widely missed the mark.
Whoever wrote the script for this read the sparknotes version written by the teacher to test the student if they read the book. My wife is in tears over this!
It’s awful
To be a fly on the wall when this was pitched…
“So we want to make another Jane Austen movie, this one’s called Persuasion and the main character is named Anne.”
“Okay, so is she like Elizabeth Bennet? Pride & Prejudice = money”
“…No..”
“Okay, so she’s like Emma? Emma = money”
“…No…”
“But you can make her like Elizabeth and Emma, right?”
“No, she’s a very different-“
“Make her like them.”
Exactly what I thought. They turned Anne into Lizzy and the mood of Persuasion into Emma. 😡
Yes ☹️
No, no, no... You cant do that to Persuasion. You simply cant. You cant do that to Anne. 🥺
what is the piano music in the end?
Looks good but I think a considerable deviation from the book. Dakota here seems more like a Lizzie Bennet. The Anne in the book is a lot more of an introvert and considerably less self assured.
I thought the BBC 2007 version with Sally Hawkins was such a great representation that it would be darn near impossible to outdo it. And this didn't, not even close, Dakota Johnson fan or not.
This is for the younger generation. Having read Persuasion at least 10 times, I can tell you this clip contains dialogue that was definitely not written by Jane Austen...imagine optioning the greatest work by the greatest novelist in the English language...& then grabbing a red pen & ham-fistedly 'improving' Jane Austen's dialogue lol. The tone is also odd--Lizzie Bennet & Anne Elliot are meant to be two very different characters.
I do hope young fans thoroughly enjoy it tho, & that it leads them to the novels. For me, the definitive version of Persuasion will always be the 1995 version with Amanda Root & Ciaran Hinds. It's absolutely brilliant.
You're so right! Persuasion is arguably the best novel in the English language. This is more like Jane Austin's plot channeled through "Brigerton" via "Bridget Jones' Diary." Sigh...still waiting on a series that has the guts to do a faithful adaptation.
I am thrilled that another "Persuasion" film is made, but I am a bit disappointed that they seem to take out the more serious tone of the book, which I find already perfect in its maturity and sensibility. Now in this version, Anne Elliott is coming off to me as a foolish maid, rather than that sensible, level-headed and more put together character I loved so much from the books. But, yeah, I'm still going to see it.
I hope the netflix execs that approved or pushed for this direction (because they wanted to echo the success of Bridgerton or something) can read through this comments section and realize what they’ve done. Jane Austen adaptations should just stay true to the novel and that alone would already appeal to massive existing fans, you don’t need to make it into a modern romcom to make it a successful movie. Now you will lose the loyal Jane Austen fanbase which probably would’ve made up for most of the views. Probably just another movie that’ll be forgotten and not be recommended by Jane Austen fans :/
Julia Quinns novels weren't the most historically accurate, sure they were wallpaper historicals, she's no Mary Balogh, but even she didn't use POC as British Aristocracy...That is a Netflix abomination
They don't care, it matters more to them to tick a box. It just jarred with the time period and the story and I don't know how actors are not embarrassed to be cast in this way. Every scene one main character was in, I immediately didn't see the character, I saw the actress doing (I'm sorry to say) some very wooden acting, looking very out of place. It may not be PC to say it, but that's the reality. I think we will never see another classic literature film where the casting reflects the time period of the story, there is just too much fuss made. The Anne Boleyn story recently on channel 4 was a reflection of how ridiculous it has become.
@@jgreen5820 NFs Persuasion, the only thing on the internet that everyone agrees is awful and we should hate it aggressively
How to change a literary masterpiece in to a woke chicklit. Netflix can.
Or, how to pretend that you're cleverer than the original author.
@Monique S Nailed it! 🔨
What is this?! My favorite book and it is unrecognizable. Write your own stories! I pity the generation getting to know Jane Austen through Netflix.