Exactly. I’m a Krav guy, and I believe our defense techniques can work … but I also believe they need to be pressure tested and developed via sparring to be effective.
Evolfurnace This is not Imi Lichtenfelds Krav Maga.. Or real KravMaga.. This is Moni Aizik KM, which is like comparing boxing with karate.. He just used the popular name of KM to name his sistem.. He is a fraud and a liar.. Also, poor instructor.. Great public speaker though.. :) If you want to know how real krav maga looks.. Look at organistations like IKMF, KMG, etc...
Your words showed great disciplined, I was extremly impressed with the way you did not disrepect the fighting style judo but in fact respecting the fighting style but at the same time pointing out while Krav Maga instructors are forcing to be reckoned with. In short your answer was short, sweet and beautiful executed
@combatantdvd As a Wing Chun instructor myself, I can honestly say that if I was not a Wing Chun practitioner, I would haven been a Krav Maga practitioner. I have a high respect for this art and think its goals and methods are one in the same as Wing Chun's.
I like the nose work. Well demonstrated, and the entry is great. I wonder about doing the arm take down if you're a smaller person. Looks good, but not as simple as most Krav I've seen. Still, I am a fan of this and would like to see more.
Just for a reference, at the end when he says dont puch him as it will go to ground fighting. He basically means if you kneel down to try and punch him and lay into him, he can get a hold of you, and if he's stronger he can turn you around get on top of you and take advantage of it. Ground fighting is a different ballgame compared to when standing up. If you know you can beat him from standing up, dont try and be smart to see if you can beat him on the ground, you might not.
You can have the same effect by using your hips to generate sufficient force with a straight palm to the nose. A straight path to the target is still faster than making an arc like he did.
a technique like this is for show, having your hand not in the right position or you footing not perfect and things can go wrong, a more ideal counter would be to divert the power of the punch to the side using the attacker's momentum against him/her. at the same time striking with a knee to the abdomen, and following up with either a left hook to the liver(if attacked with a right punch) or an arm triangle depending on whether or not there are more attackers and other factors
Great instructor of real world close combat defense. Moni Aizik and Avi Nardia are the best, IMHO. That's why they teach our elite military special ops community. Hoo-ah!
@ritjames101 if you want to jack up your ability to hold a weapon, you can punch to the face or condition your hands to punch to the face. Punching the face is like punching a bowling ball with sharp parts. Boxer are smart, they not only wrap the hands but put big pads on their hands.
Another problem after putting this to the test is the breakdown of the arm. It's actually a really bad move if it fails. I'm thinking of posting a video showing why.
It's actually called the haymaker because farmers who threw hay all day had those muscles involved with this punch seriously pumped up. So even though they didn't have any martial arts experience they still had the power to knock you out. And if you can help it never fight a farm boy you might win but a black eye or some teeth missing is assured.
@haorengo the funny thing is that the guy in the red shirt is a wing chun instructor, that was gracious enough to be Moni's parter or bad guy for the video.
I have seen this technique used in various ways in several arts I have used it a bit myself. I had a military buddy of mine try it on me but I out weight him by about 100lbs and im a bit taller than he is. When he went for it I stopped him easily. I would hesitate to try this on anyone larger or possibly stronger than you. It shocked him a bit that I stopped it it's not that hard unless your just really weak. Getting a hit in first could make a bit of difference but I wouldn't count on it.
In the hypothetical scenario you've given, the boxer is moving but so is the defender. It doesn't matter how big or strong some is when they throw a punch the mechanics will still defeat it. The real fight comes in the strategy and ability to apply said mechanics. I love boxers and boxing was the first art I ever learned. But even boxing has its flaws. It truly boils down to the fighters ability mentally, and physically. That is why we train.
I think you could say that about anyone who practices the very essence of "ansatsuken" as the Japanese call it in fiction. Judo is Ju Jitsu revised into more of a sport than the regular lethal combination it used to be. It still is effective and if you slam a person with an ippon seonagi into the ground he could get killed. I practice traditional Ju Jitsu, and considering the fact most of the masters of KM actually studied JJ originally, I believe it is lethal enough.
@ritjames101 use a vertical punch aiming with the knuckle bteween your middle finger and pinky, that way you hit with 3 knuckles. old school bareknuckle boxers used to hit sandbags and soak their hands in vinegar to condition knuckles
A roundhouse punch to the temple can kill or seriously injure you. Not to mention what the guy can do after the punch, because it usually doesn't stop after 1 punch. Breaking his nose is not really over reacting, since the other guy started the fight
@ritjames101 a good way to condition the fists is to tape or nail a stack of newspapers to a hard wall, such as a cement wall, and punch the wall for about an hour a day. doing this will strengthen your fists to the point where punching a face wont hurt your hand at all. this wont happen just over a few days though. it takes months
Mr. Aizik, I have watch a number of your videos and i used this defensive tactic but after i guided the initial attacker to the ground a secondary attacker managed to attack me from the rear i was wondering if you have some advice for a similar situation
plam strikes are just as powerful as punches but reduce the risk of breaking something. striking the head with the palm is used in bare knuckle boxing.
No, the palm is softer and has a very wide surface area compared to bare knuckles that have a very solid and sharp impact. Although I'm not saying palm strikes aren't useful.
Tim Avery you don't hit with the entire palm. you make contact with the heel of the palm which isn't very soft. the fact that its slightly softer than the knuckles just reduces the chances of cutting your opponent but doesn't effect the power transferral.
billy bob the only time you would palm strike is in a hook or close in at the face. Using one in fair face to face fight won't work because you don't get enough reach and it's awkward to stretch up your fingers to get him right on. Anyway, fists should be progressively conditioned.
Tim Avery i've tried hitting a punch bag with straight palm strikes and it isn't awkward, and you only lose three inches in reach whilst removing the risk of a broken hand.
@combatantdvd So does krav maga have something of its own? something that does not involve the mimic of other martial arts? because everytime i see krav maga i tell the person next to me : yea thats karate, that one looked like aikido, now hes boxing and so on. Pls excuse my english
@YourLoveIsVain could be, but you would have to hit with a very large impulse, that is very precisely and rapidly at the base of the nose. But this is krav maga. It's nothing fancy, artistic. It was made for the very purpose of being easy to "memorize" in your reaction mechanisms and of being extremely efficient, which for military krav maga means lethal. Even if what's shown here is different and thought for street personal defense, it still has some of that.
I can only tell from my own experience, so I don't know if it will count for much. I've been practicing MMA for a 1.5 years, had studied Judo up to an Orange belt and just started KM, and I can say that KM is the most ferocious, hard going unmerciful Martial Art (I still think it's a collective of Martial Arts but ok) I've ever experienced. In addition, I've got the honor to practice under one of the best KM masters in Israel, I believe that if the time will come, I'll choose KM for Self def.
Krav Maga is super efficient on the streets, plus, remember, it's not a Martial Art, as people would and do like to see it - it's a technique, developed for surviving a straight attack with basic and simple maneuvers. The Basics of KM can be taught in a month or less. Don't worry, I won't call you anything simply because you disagree, but I advise going to the nearest KM gym and see for yourself this street-fight-surviving utility. Peace from Israel. P.S: Sorry for the lousy English.
@rotsebanotman What is Krav Maga is the question. It began in the 40s but branched out and different branches have different influences. Some have a wrestling and boxing influence. Commando Krav Maga has a heavy Judo/Jiu Jitsu influence.
I've looked for it but cant seem to find it now. It was also a krav maga video but I think the demonstrator was a different person. Anyway, I'm really sorry about this misunderstanding.
You know what? I have to apologize on this one. That comment about the hook was supposed to be in reference to another video I was watching, not this one.
I didn't say that at all. I simply said 'if you know how to do one, step ins aren't that risky'. I said in SAMBO SPECIFICALLY they often burst strike and step in. a strike is not necessary to perform a step in. A step in can be performed easily if a person has the experience to know when to do it and how to do it. Also, you can't 'defend' a step in, ok? A step in isn't an attack, so your ps doesn't even make sense.
I agree in most cases with that. My defensiveness is about techniques that are taught still keeping in mind that it's the ability of the fighter to sink or swim. How much dedication, how much training, etc... that is where the Pro's have a leg up is the dedication, training and experience. On the other hand there are still those minorities that could destroy a PRO FIGHTER that never went pro. Applicable to all arts not just Krav...
Perhaps I've just been in Ninjutsu for too long but when I first saw this it looked familiar- step offline, palm heel as a distraction so you can execute Musha Dori. But then I realized what's really familiar about is it is that it's simple and effective.
Elementary Okinawan Karate defense too. Very quick, very effective, and safe if you do not not have your knuckles conditioned from the makawari. Bravo.
@chrischr0s That's a popular myth. Your nose is made of cartilage, so there is no bone to snap. My issue is that this is not really Krav Maga after the initial counter. To think that you'll have the perfect grace to pull off that cool lock and takedown is unrealistic, and only works (maybe) for that one attack. A more realistic follow up would be to control the attacker in a clinch like position, and deliver knees and kicks to the groin until the threat is eliminated.
Once you palm someone in the face you can usually put your fingers in there eyes. Palms vs punches It's just a matter of what you practice and what you like. But this is just another Kenpo technique.
@Thundras That doesn't really happen. If I could post a link I could, but you'll have to google it. In short, FightingArts did an entry on it - there's so much shit the bone would have to go through that you'd have to uppercut the guy with a goddamn sledgehammer to make it in, and even then the angle would have to be perfect. Remember, cartilage is squishy. Your nose is made of the same stuff as your ears, not really ideal for penetration. The nose would simply break, which is good but nonlethal
I like Krav Maga as a combatives system, but it can be really dangerous to extend your arm, in attempt to block or parry a hook or overhand, that is, if your opponent knows what he's doing.
The best part of this instruction was explaining how to prepare for an attack without provoking the potential opponent. Successful attacks use the element of surprise. The most common attack in a street fight is the "sucker punch"..a punch thrown when the opponent is not expecting it. Not preparing to defend yourself is the biggest mistake. Having fighting skils can be useless if you're caught by surprise.
@combatantdvd It may be better to say that Krav Maga is a modern evolving martial art. Many of today's fighting systems are historical - which does not reduce their effectiveness - but it is much easier to state "what is..." when speaking about the majority of martial arts. Its my opinion that Krav Maga is a quest to always continue to evolve the many basic principles of confrontation; "non-confrontational" deceptiveness, boxing, reaction, reading, etc. and I'm not even significantly trained
@enzofigueroa: Heavy bag was the first thing I said :) I was just under the impression he doesn't have gear or access to training facility- and you can see I took care to protect our buddy here by insisting he begin with pads or towels... could be a pillow. I'm just assisting a home-made warrior! BUT BUT BUT: training without skill sets, or understanding can lead to ingraining BAD HABITS. Don't mistake hitting hard for 'being good'... not the same. PS: slapping the head IS a GREAT technique!
I'm not sure what part of the video made you think he doesn't know what a hook is, and I'm also not sure what place you think a hook has in a situation like this.
Krav Maga is a CQC art taught to Israeli Special Forces and teaches you that if an attacker does indeed attack he is trying to kill you and shows you to END the fight immediately.
The face is not really like a bowling ball. I've used bare hands for easy street knockout straight punch to the face mostly the chin with the two big knuckles. Palm is ok, but a the advantage in a closed fist is to generate greater force and speed and aim to the center of the face quickly. Open hand has less range and is a bit slower. Remember your opponent could fight like a hungry tiger...
You're not starting the fight, the point is you're trying to avoid it, but if you can't then better to break his nose rather then letting him break yours.
Kodamin2000: Its usually called a hay maker. Never really heard it called a roundhouse punch. Roundhouse doesn't mean spinning though. Roundhouse is the name of a kick with the similar outside in motion as the punch, so they are transposing the name I guess. Generally any attack that requires a 360 movement is called a spinning blah. Also, some of the other people are correct, there are more efficient moves than th is one, but I believe, personally, that martial arts is different for everyone
@dubsidol Not discounting what you are saying, but it's not JUST good for weapon defenses. Every style has it's goals, what it wants to excel at. BJJ is excellent on the ground, but until you can tangle your opponent up, you are at a disadvantage. Likewise, stand up styles like Muay Thai are good until you get on the ground. Now, as I've said, these are both sport styles, that do have combat application. Krav is a combat style, period. It's not designed to go toe to toe with another fighter
If I had my "opponent's" head back like that looking at the sky, I would think one solid punch to the solar plexus would go a long ways. If nothing else it would be gratifying. But I'm no expert.
@mdeane1987 While it does have fighting characteristics, the fighting part of krav is to finish the encounter, or to make space to get away. If the fighting were emphasized, a 5', 95lb woman would not have a chance in hell in defending herself against a realistic attacker. With our 'fighting' being follow up combatives to soft targets (groin, joints, etc.), Imi developed a system that can work for just about everyone. Also, it was created to be taught in months, not years to the end user.
Be very careful punching "up" into the nose; you may go to jail for that one because it can kill. A jaw strike and push will be just as effective and you can come down on his nose after with the palm which will break it. That arm lock is great and surprisingly easy to get a hold of and pushing his elbow up to drop him is a great finish.
Ok so for you people who have never seen krav maga. It is ment to kill or incapacitate, much like American Kempo, but with any "deadly" art it is impossible to practice full speed and full contact, obviously, so what you do is drill drill drill to develop muscle memory and reflexes. So you react automatically to situations. Good in theory but not always in practice. But like most self defense arts I have my doubts against someone whos trained.
@torment3d the attack is blocked because this is a demonstration, if it was a real situation this would not have worked,and if a person actually had their hands up covering their face, and then threw a haymaker, not a roundhouse punch, their left hand would stay in front of their face blocking the hand from coming up and attacking, with that hand in place if someone would have actually tried this, i would have grabbed the open fingers, and gone into a finger lock, then a flip, thats why
you know what I mean, RELATIVELY safe, and I would never just step in on someone who knows what they are doing, thats what hand trapping is for, so you can do the big stuff that would otherwise be stupid
I am confused now, Moni, if the nose is so sensitive that ''even a small hand'' can stop somebody, why then do you need to use the legs ''like a momentum'' and move in like a ''wave''?
What if my assailant isn't punching in slow motion?
Exactly. I’m a Krav guy, and I believe our defense techniques can work … but I also believe they need to be pressure tested and developed via sparring to be effective.
Idk bro, why don’t you show us and make a video
Doesn't this guy resemble Arnold Schwarzneggar?
Meanwhile in boxing, the guy just ducks out of the way.
*****
I mean it's much simpler to just duck out of the way of a clumsy haymaker than to do all this interception stuff.
Evolfurnace This is not Imi Lichtenfelds Krav Maga.. Or real KravMaga.. This is Moni Aizik KM, which is like comparing boxing with karate.. He just used the popular name of KM to name his sistem.. He is a fraud and a liar.. Also, poor instructor.. Great public speaker though.. :)
If you want to know how real krav maga looks.. Look at organistations like IKMF, KMG, etc...
Can you give me tips on how to spot a good Krav Maga trainer please.
Good luck timing that and avoiding the followup punches....
The idea is to do it so fast that the aggressor won't have time to properly land it.
Your words showed great disciplined, I was extremly impressed with the way you did not disrepect the fighting style judo but in fact respecting the fighting style but at the same time pointing out while Krav Maga instructors are forcing to be reckoned with.
In short your answer was short, sweet and beautiful executed
This is NOT Krav Maga... this is something Moni made up...
THANK YOU!
isn't it the purpose of Krav Maga to not being a fixed combat system? to evolve and adapt?
The demonstrator in the video is seriously very professional. This shit hurts even in practice. Cool instructor.
The first move he does, the block and palm to the face is from Taiji 24 "Fair maiden weaves the shuttles." Exactly the same move
@combatantdvd
As a Wing Chun instructor myself, I can honestly say that if I was not a Wing Chun practitioner, I would haven been a Krav Maga practitioner. I have a high respect for this art and think its goals and methods are one in the same as Wing Chun's.
Palm heel strikes also have the advantage of not buckling at the wrist.
I like the nose work. Well demonstrated, and the entry is great. I wonder about doing the arm take down if you're a smaller person. Looks good, but not as simple as most Krav I've seen. Still, I am a fan of this and would like to see more.
Just for a reference, at the end when he says dont puch him as it will go to ground fighting. He basically means if you kneel down to try and punch him and lay into him, he can get a hold of you, and if he's stronger he can turn you around get on top of you and take advantage of it. Ground fighting is a different ballgame compared to when standing up. If you know you can beat him from standing up, dont try and be smart to see if you can beat him on the ground, you might not.
You can have the same effect by using your hips to generate sufficient force with a straight palm to the nose. A straight path to the target is still faster than making an arc like he did.
a technique like this is for show, having your hand not in the right position or you footing not perfect and things can go wrong, a more ideal counter would be to divert the power of the punch to the side using the attacker's momentum against him/her. at the same time striking with a knee to the abdomen, and following up with either a left hook to the liver(if attacked with a right punch) or an arm triangle depending on whether or not there are more attackers and other factors
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Great instructor of real world close combat defense. Moni Aizik and Avi Nardia are the best, IMHO. That's why they teach our elite military special ops community. Hoo-ah!
I agree 100 % about the open hand. You can break a brick with the palm, and go faster, it's an advantage fighting a larger attacker.
@ritjames101
if you want to jack up your ability to hold a weapon, you can punch to the face or condition your hands to punch to the face. Punching the face is like punching a bowling ball with sharp parts. Boxer are smart, they not only wrap the hands but put big pads on their hands.
So simple yet awesome. :)
"That's a broken nose, but we don't stop there." No mercy, huh.
Another problem after putting this to the test is the breakdown of the arm. It's actually a really bad move if it fails. I'm thinking of posting a video showing why.
It's actually called the haymaker because farmers who threw hay all day had those muscles involved with this punch seriously pumped up. So even though they didn't have any martial arts experience they still had the power to knock you out. And if you can help it never fight a farm boy you might win but a black eye or some teeth missing is assured.
nice,simple,effective,direct....
@haorengo
the funny thing is that the guy in the red shirt is a wing chun instructor, that was gracious enough to be Moni's parter or bad guy for the video.
What does having a Wing Chun instructor have to do with anything
very good advices, thx for the vid
I have seen this technique used in various ways in several arts I have used it a bit myself. I had a military buddy of mine try it on me but I out weight him by about 100lbs and im a bit taller than he is. When he went for it I stopped him easily. I would hesitate to try this on anyone larger or possibly stronger than you. It shocked him a bit that I stopped it it's not that hard unless your just really weak. Getting a hit in first could make a bit of difference but I wouldn't count on it.
- excuse me!
- excuse me!!???
- Fight begins
Well that escalated quickly
In the hypothetical scenario you've given, the boxer is moving but so is the defender. It doesn't matter how big or strong some is when they throw a punch the mechanics will still defeat it. The real fight comes in the strategy and ability to apply said mechanics. I love boxers and boxing was the first art I ever learned. But even boxing has its flaws. It truly boils down to the fighters ability mentally, and physically. That is why we train.
I think you could say that about anyone who practices the very essence of "ansatsuken" as the Japanese call it in fiction.
Judo is Ju Jitsu revised into more of a sport than the regular lethal combination it used to be. It still is effective and if you slam a person with an ippon seonagi into the ground he could get killed.
I practice traditional Ju Jitsu, and considering the fact most of the masters of KM actually studied JJ originally, I believe it is lethal enough.
this is good! do you know the fence technique? relates to this.
Most the guys in his unit died during the Yom Kippur War, I believe he's the only one who managed to stay alive in his platoon.
similar to CQC, the fighting style used in the game series Metal Gear Solid.
moni broke it down.practice on both sides,and live another day.even when we win the battle we might lose the war.live in peace if possible
@ritjames101 use a vertical punch aiming with the knuckle bteween your middle finger and pinky, that way you hit with 3 knuckles. old school bareknuckle boxers used to hit sandbags and soak their hands in vinegar to condition knuckles
A roundhouse punch to the temple can kill or seriously injure you. Not to mention what the guy can do after the punch, because it usually doesn't stop after 1 punch. Breaking his nose is not really over reacting, since the other guy started the fight
@ritjames101 a good way to condition the fists is to tape or nail a stack of newspapers to a hard wall, such as a cement wall, and punch the wall for about an hour a day. doing this will strengthen your fists to the point where punching a face wont hurt your hand at all. this wont happen just over a few days though. it takes months
Mr. Aizik, I have watch a number of your videos and i used this defensive tactic but after i guided the initial attacker to the ground a secondary attacker managed to attack me from the rear i was wondering if you have some advice for a similar situation
question. cant that kill somebody from pushing the palm upwards against the nose? if you hit hard enough
if you palm them in the nose wouldnt they die cause of the bone snapping and being lodged directly into their brain?
Palm to the nose won't do anything but stun them a bit and make them angry. If you are afraid to punch him in the face, don't bother fighting him.
plam strikes are just as powerful as punches but reduce the risk of breaking something. striking the head with the palm is used in bare knuckle boxing.
No, the palm is softer and has a very wide surface area compared to bare knuckles that have a very solid and sharp impact. Although I'm not saying palm strikes aren't useful.
Tim Avery
you don't hit with the entire palm. you make contact with the heel of the palm which isn't very soft. the fact that its slightly softer than the knuckles just reduces the chances of cutting your opponent but doesn't effect the power transferral.
billy bob the only time you would palm strike is in a hook or close in at the face. Using one in fair face to face fight won't work because you don't get enough reach and it's awkward to stretch up your fingers to get him right on. Anyway, fists should be progressively conditioned.
Tim Avery i've tried hitting a punch bag with straight palm strikes and it isn't awkward, and you only lose three inches in reach whilst removing the risk of a broken hand.
@thisnameisawesomeful could you state why? The attack is blocked, then the attacker's energy is used to floor them.
@combatantdvd So does krav maga have something of its own? something that does not involve the mimic of other martial arts? because everytime i see krav maga i tell the person next to me : yea thats karate, that one looked like aikido, now hes boxing and so on. Pls excuse my english
@YourLoveIsVain could be, but you would have to hit with a very large impulse, that is very precisely and rapidly at the base of the nose. But this is krav maga. It's nothing fancy, artistic. It was made for the very purpose of being easy to "memorize" in your reaction mechanisms and of being extremely efficient, which for military krav maga means lethal. Even if what's shown here is different and thought for street personal defense, it still has some of that.
The nose seems like a pretty small target. Would it be possible to do this but to hit the bottom of the chin instead? Would it be as effective?
I can only tell from my own experience, so I don't know if it will count for much.
I've been practicing MMA for a 1.5 years, had studied Judo up to an Orange belt and just started KM, and I can say that KM is the most ferocious, hard going unmerciful Martial Art (I still think it's a collective of Martial Arts but ok) I've ever experienced.
In addition, I've got the honor to practice under one of the best KM masters in Israel, I believe that if the time will come, I'll choose KM for Self def.
Krav Maga is super efficient on the streets, plus, remember, it's not a Martial Art, as people would and do like to see it - it's a technique, developed for surviving a straight attack with basic and simple maneuvers.
The Basics of KM can be taught in a month or less.
Don't worry, I won't call you anything simply because you disagree, but I advise going to the nearest KM gym and see for yourself this street-fight-surviving utility.
Peace from Israel.
P.S: Sorry for the lousy English.
@rotsebanotman
What is Krav Maga is the question. It began in the 40s but branched out and different branches have different influences. Some have a wrestling and boxing influence. Commando Krav Maga has a heavy Judo/Jiu Jitsu influence.
nicely done! ty
It was actually called LINE before MCMAP.
I've looked for it but cant seem to find it now. It was also a krav maga video but I think the demonstrator was a different person. Anyway, I'm really sorry about this misunderstanding.
Whatever you do, don't forget the word respect.
You know what? I have to apologize on this one. That comment about the hook was supposed to be in reference to another video I was watching, not this one.
@Liquidence I think that's just his shoes on the mat
Perfect hair dye, Moni!
@zzJerryShufflezz Which is why its done with speed,and simultaneously with the strike.
I didn't say that at all. I simply said 'if you know how to do one, step ins aren't that risky'. I said in SAMBO SPECIFICALLY they often burst strike and step in. a strike is not necessary to perform a step in. A step in can be performed easily if a person has the experience to know when to do it and how to do it. Also, you can't 'defend' a step in, ok? A step in isn't an attack, so your ps doesn't even make sense.
or to practice more, gain a solid understanding and do it correctly
I agree in most cases with that. My defensiveness is about techniques that are taught still keeping in mind that it's the ability of the fighter to sink or swim. How much dedication, how much training, etc... that is where the Pro's have a leg up is the dedication, training and experience. On the other hand there are still those minorities that could destroy a PRO FIGHTER that never went pro. Applicable to all arts not just Krav...
Perhaps I've just been in Ninjutsu for too long but when I first saw this it looked familiar- step offline, palm heel as a distraction so you can execute Musha Dori. But then I realized what's really familiar about is it is that it's simple and effective.
@opticannon: I think it means anything goes, kind of like no holds barred, or no rules, etc.
Elementary Okinawan Karate defense too. Very quick, very effective, and safe if you do not not have your knuckles conditioned from the makawari. Bravo.
@chrischr0s That's a popular myth. Your nose is made of cartilage, so there is no bone to snap. My issue is that this is not really Krav Maga after the initial counter. To think that you'll have the perfect grace to pull off that cool lock and takedown is unrealistic, and only works (maybe) for that one attack. A more realistic follow up would be to control the attacker in a clinch like position, and deliver knees and kicks to the groin until the threat is eliminated.
Once you palm someone in the face you can usually put your fingers in there eyes.
Palms vs punches
It's just a matter of what you practice and what you like.
But this is just another Kenpo technique.
i used to go looking for fights but just resently i said im not cool so now im lloking for ways to self defend myself thx
@Sumbstrd Your term brutal as instead of breaking his nose but grab is nuts and twist?
superb
@combatantdvd Krav maga is a mix from many arts such as wc
@Thundras That doesn't really happen. If I could post a link I could, but you'll have to google it. In short, FightingArts did an entry on it - there's so much shit the bone would have to go through that you'd have to uppercut the guy with a goddamn sledgehammer to make it in, and even then the angle would have to be perfect. Remember, cartilage is squishy. Your nose is made of the same stuff as your ears, not really ideal for penetration. The nose would simply break, which is good but nonlethal
I like Krav Maga as a combatives system, but it can be really dangerous to extend your arm, in attempt to block or parry a hook or overhand, that is, if your opponent knows what he's doing.
Very nice, very nice.
The best part of this instruction was explaining how to prepare for an attack without provoking the potential opponent. Successful attacks use the element of surprise. The most common attack in a street fight is the "sucker punch"..a punch thrown when the opponent is not expecting it. Not preparing to defend yourself is the biggest mistake. Having fighting skils can be useless if you're caught by surprise.
Caption should say "Moni Aizik shows how to defend against a roundhouse punch....and get convicted of manslaughter for a palm strike to the face."
i did the same thing when someone said "hello"
what is the difference between commando krav maga, and krav maga?
and the second punch ?
@combatantdvd It may be better to say that Krav Maga is a modern evolving martial art. Many of today's fighting systems are historical - which does not reduce their effectiveness - but it is much easier to state "what is..." when speaking about the majority of martial arts.
Its my opinion that Krav Maga is a quest to always continue to evolve the many basic principles of confrontation; "non-confrontational" deceptiveness, boxing, reaction, reading, etc. and I'm not even significantly trained
@ritjames101 use a heavy bag, tie a thin pad to a tree, knuckle push ups... fold up a towel and punch the floor.... many things!
im not an expert, but that nose punch is pretty lethal right?
@enzofigueroa: Heavy bag was the first thing I said :) I was just under the impression he doesn't have gear or access to training facility- and you can see I took care to protect our buddy here by insisting he begin with pads or towels... could be a pillow. I'm just assisting a home-made warrior! BUT BUT BUT: training without skill sets, or understanding can lead to ingraining BAD HABITS. Don't mistake hitting hard for 'being good'... not the same. PS: slapping the head IS a GREAT technique!
I'm not sure what part of the video made you think he doesn't know what a hook is, and I'm also not sure what place you think a hook has in a situation like this.
Krav Maga is a CQC art taught to Israeli Special Forces and teaches you that if an attacker does indeed attack he is trying to kill you and shows you to END the fight immediately.
The face is not really like a bowling ball. I've used bare hands for easy street knockout straight punch to the face mostly the chin with the two big knuckles. Palm is ok, but a the advantage in a closed fist is to generate greater force and speed and aim to the center of the face quickly. Open hand has less range and is a bit slower. Remember your opponent could fight like a hungry tiger...
@Neekatron my comment is about his instruction, not his skills or martial prowess
That explains a lot. Would you mind pointing out the particular video? Not so I can argue with you on that, just out of curiosity. :P
You're not starting the fight, the point is you're trying to avoid it, but if you can't then better to break his nose rather then letting him break yours.
Kodamin2000: Its usually called a hay maker. Never really heard it called a roundhouse punch. Roundhouse doesn't mean spinning though. Roundhouse is the name of a kick with the similar outside in motion as the punch, so they are transposing the name I guess. Generally any attack that requires a 360 movement is called a spinning blah.
Also, some of the other people are correct, there are more efficient moves than th is one, but I believe, personally, that martial arts is different for everyone
@dubsidol Not discounting what you are saying, but it's not JUST good for weapon defenses. Every style has it's goals, what it wants to excel at. BJJ is excellent on the ground, but until you can tangle your opponent up, you are at a disadvantage. Likewise, stand up styles like Muay Thai are good until you get on the ground. Now, as I've said, these are both sport styles, that do have combat application. Krav is a combat style, period. It's not designed to go toe to toe with another fighter
And why is ground fighting to avoid?
If I had my "opponent's" head back like that looking at the sky, I would think one solid punch to the solar plexus would go a long ways. If nothing else it would be gratifying. But I'm no expert.
@mdeane1987 While it does have fighting characteristics, the fighting part of krav is to finish the encounter, or to make space to get away. If the fighting were emphasized, a 5', 95lb woman would not have a chance in hell in defending herself against a realistic attacker. With our 'fighting' being follow up combatives to soft targets (groin, joints, etc.), Imi developed a system that can work for just about everyone. Also, it was created to be taught in months, not years to the end user.
Actually the Marines were formed long before MCMAP was developed. MCMAP was created after WW2, because of the exposure to Asian martial arts.
Be very careful punching "up" into the nose; you may go to jail for that one because it can kill. A jaw strike and push will be just as effective and you can come down on his nose after with the palm which will break it.
That arm lock is great and surprisingly easy to get a hold of and pushing his elbow up to drop him is a great finish.
Excuse me. Excuse me?! **BAM**
Ok so for you people who have never seen krav maga. It is ment to kill or incapacitate, much like American Kempo, but with any "deadly" art it is impossible to practice full speed and full contact, obviously, so what you do is drill drill drill to develop muscle memory and reflexes. So you react automatically to situations. Good in theory but not always in practice. But like most self defense arts I have my doubts against someone whos trained.
sounds to me like those fools who can't fight or sparring because they only use lethal techniques... bullshit!
Love this learnt this in Tai Chi :)
@torment3d the attack is blocked because this is a demonstration, if it was a real situation this would not have worked,and if a person actually had their hands up covering their face, and then threw a haymaker, not a roundhouse punch, their left hand would stay in front of their face blocking the hand from coming up and attacking, with that hand in place if someone would have actually tried this, i would have grabbed the open fingers, and gone into a finger lock, then a flip, thats why
open your hand and go for the face, it is very probable that you hit his nose, otherwise your opponent will be distracted after after the hit.
@coverrun1 good luck getting that to catch on....
you know what I mean, RELATIVELY safe, and I would never just step in on someone who knows what they are doing, thats what hand trapping is for, so you can do the big stuff that would otherwise be stupid
I am confused now, Moni, if the nose is so sensitive that ''even a small hand'' can stop somebody, why then do you need to use the legs ''like a momentum'' and move in like a ''wave''?