The Airbus A380 vs A350 - What Plane Is Best?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2022
- The Airbus A380 is a groundbreaking aircraft in many respects. When Airbus launched the double-decker behemoth quadjet program in 2000, it generated a massive amount of excitement for an industry that, at the time, saw no end to the need for capacity. However, it turned out to be a financial disappointment for its manufacturer.
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I absolutely love the A380. Such a gorgeous plane sad it couldn’t stay around longer
A380 is a beast to fly on . So comfortable but the future is going to lie with the A350 which has magnificent range.
@Su Geun Some people are agree to travel semi standing, if this makes flying cheaper.
A380 was just made too late, they don't have any resell value. And range of A350 XLR with 370ETOPS just make spike and hub obsolete.
The A380 is just amazing... It's definitely got the wow factor! Wish they could make it more economical allowing it to return in full force.
No matter what... A380 is the best plane... Only if it came out during the B747 days... Imagine how it would have changed
They said it's time past, yet Emirates made 85% of its profits from this plane. Not sure if its time really passed.
Emirates make money because this is tourist destination, they can be more profitable if they change a380 to a350.
IRC JAL also make money using a380 because they fly into Hawaii.
The biggest market demand on A380 isn't full passenger / freighter version...
but the combi version
Using the main deck as cargo compartment and upper deck for passenger,
A380 can carry cargo and passenger similar to A330-300 + B767-300F in a single flight
Unfortunately, airbus didn't go for that, or unbale to.
That leave A380 is a very bad situation as it can't carry much cargo in lower deck.
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As a load control of multiple aircraft type including A380,
The MTOW of A380 is enough to carry more than 130T of cargo in standard 9~10hr cargo flight.
A380 average fuel burn ~12T/hr * 10hr + 1hr extra (ALTN/Final Res) = 132T
MTOW 560T (some version 570/575T) - 285T (DOW) - 132T (final) = 143T (payload)
The limitation is MZFW (less than 360T, = max payload ~72T)
Similar with B747M or converting B747-400 to B747-400BCF,
By inputting additional structural strengthen (Body and gear) to increase MZFW of A380
If airbus can increase MZFW to 385T and MLDW to 400T or 405T, A380M can carry a total of 100T payload (pax + cargo) with ~13.5hr flight time (HKG-LHR / HKG-LAX / NRT-JFK / ICN-LAX / LAX-LHR / etc)
The upper deck for pax, approximately 200~250 /25T (estimate 100kg per pax, include body weight and baggage)
Main deck for cargo, around 19~21PMC with 96in height (Standard Q6 contour) / 60T (3T/PMC)
Lower deck for cargo + baggage, 6PMC+6AKE ~15T, 10AKE for baggage (weight included in pax calc)
*For main deck, we may have the fwd section for pax if can be approved by FAA/EASA
That will be similar to a A330-200 (250~260 in 2 class + 15~20T of cargo in lower deck) + A330-200F (68T max)
The questions are 1) Approved from FAA/EASA and 2) landing gear
I wish I can really see this happen,
Airlines will love it
@@szechunglui4898 cargo planes need a reinforced strengthened floor which does add a lot of weight
I wonder if there will be a 2 engine double decker plane in the future, if the passenger demand grows just as fast as it was before the pandemic, stretching planes might not be enough.
Maybe? When they finally manage to make a 100% fully ultra weight composite material airplane and stick a powerfull yet efficient enough engine to power it. Could be possible
That would be so cool! Like put 2 futuristic GE9X on it then it would be amazing
It will never come again. Makes sense if you think about it. Airlines have trouble filling the plane completely, so it is not flexible at all. Planes with only 1 floor are much easier to fill and are much more flexible in use.
Doesn't matter if the demand grows.
Double decker planes can’t be serviced by every airport too so that limits what routes an airline can use them on (aka mostly major cities). Even Emirates, the largest operator of A380s still runs single decker 777 for flexibility
Not to say it can’t be done but it would be a pretty niche product that can’t be reallocated if demande shifts
I am very much love the A380 but sadly i have never been onboard an A380 in my life and at least 36 A380s are retired and again here's the list (because i am sorry to repeat this again but i think this is very important to us and you better copy this list) :
4 Singapore Airlines (2018) + 2 (2021)
10 Air France (1 retired few months before covid)
All (14) Lufthansa (6 A380s sold back to Airbus by October 2022. Lufthansa confirmed the retirement of the entire A380 fleet back in April 1st 2022, however might reactivate 4-6 A380s due to the rapid return of air travel demand and further delays of the Boeing 777X.)
1 Hifly
2 Emirates
2 China Southern Airlines (February 2022)
1 Qantas (June 2022).
Maybe next year, i will get a chance to fly onboard the A380 and choose window seat for the flight.
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can you do a segment on the a350 versus the 777x? on paper, it seems like the a350 beats the triple 7X even before introduction. how could a partial composite aircraft like the 777x compete with a full composite aircraft like the a350 even has a freighter although it carries a slight bit more?
A350 is not a complete composite airframe.. and neither is the 787 .. but 787 has more carbon fiber .. not carbon panels inlew of aluminum pannels riveted to a aluminum frame.
As an avgeek I would say the a380 but econimicly and logistically the a350 is the best
Anyone have a list or links to one about that 400 airport statistic OR conversely the 124+ that can now?
I haven’t flown the A350 yet but I have flown the 380 with Emirates, both in business and economy and I absolutely LOVE that plane, especially in Business of course 😬😬
Hey, think you can do a video on the AirNZ fleet? Also, Second!
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For 14 -15 hr long- haul flts, my first choice is and would be A-380s ( as long as it’d be available / flying ); ex.: JFK to Dubai ; for 6 -8 hr flts, A-350 is absolutely ok ( although many airlines, in the near future, will be using A-350s for the long-haul flts ); A-380 deliveries has ceased but may be operating until 2030 with the existing equipments..!!
I love the A380, especially when Singapore had upstairs economy. Just so quiet and spacious.
There is no comparison between the A380 and the A350. Both aircraft types were built for different markets.
I think the Boeing 747-8 is sometimes overlooked. All we need to do now is wait for the 777X. The Dreamliner seems to be selling like hot cakes. The A350 is nimble like the Spitfire. My personal favourite is the A340.
then i start imagine on both aircrafts;
1. re-engine A380 with 4x Trent-XWB-84 to gain efficiency, range, shorter takeoff & quieter noise.
2. transfer the previous GP7000/ Trent-900 to power older A330-200/300
3. what is like if there's an ACJ350 Combi/ Convertible (VIP area on Front, Airline seating on Mid cabin & various cargo in the Aft & Lower space......or additional convertible passenger layout in the Aft) just like what #AlexanderCraker doing with his latest design...
then added 2 sets overhead Loft (commonly serve as A350 Crew Bunk) on door-2 (upwards & backwards) fuction as additional bedding for Passengers.
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Would it be possible to make the whole bottom a fuel tank so it could probably fly around the world like twice if weight wasnt in affect
I think ACJ A380 made for Brunei Kingdom was planned as that
And what the fuck is the point in that? There is no reason for an aircraft to have that much fuel nor that much range. You’re some 10 year old and u deserve to never have the opportunity to use social media again. Get back to work boy
A380 100%
The upper deck economy class is the best place to fly with.
Agreed.
@Su Geun the window seats on the upper deck on the A380 have storage bins next to the seat in all cabins and that means you can have your carry by your side and easily accessible.
To be honest I like the a350 for its range and it is also quite fuel efficient whereas the a380 is quite spacious and double decked.
unless ur an airline owner why would you even care for the fuel efficiency... even the prices cannot be that drastic between the two
Can you do a fleet video on air india please?
In terms of which is better, the A350 is better than the a380 because it’s more efficient and can be used in more airports.
i think the a380 could be powered with 2 ge9x engines, because each one of them can provide around 140000 pounds which is equal to 2 gp7200, an also make it with composites.
Nope Gp have a 333kN, ge9x have a 490kN and new Trent xwb 97 have a 430kN.
A380 vs A350? Is a battle of comfort vs efficiency much like comparing a Lincoln Town Car to a Smart Fortwo... Personally I'd love to ride in a town car, but if I'm paying for it? Well... I definitely own a Smart car...
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Hoping at least one airline will keep a fleet of A380's just for the wow and prestige factors
Until today, I loved A380! I hope in the future aircraft industry re-designs new A380 for passion, love and memorable of human being achievment of technolgy.
The A3500=-900 is the best-looking commercial aircraft flying today. Beautifully proportioned and modern.
The A380 is an excellent aircraft for long haul flights. I also agree that most airlines didn’t implement it correctly. Meaning is some situations airlines should offer extended long haul flights like 2 to 3 times a week. Vs everyday. For example I can book a flight ✈️ from Denver to Munich 7 days a week. Why not offer it 3 days a week instead and use a 380?
It should be: Which plane is BETTER (and not: Which plane is BEST). Mind your grammar.
I like the Singapore airlines airbus a350-900 ulr
Maybe Airbus shall retrofit with 2 super engines for the A380.
A380 is perfect for Hub and spoke Business model. Only Middle East carriers can fill the entire A380. It's based on the airline's region and geographical position of the region. For- ex, DXB, Doha and Turkish Airways. yet there are so many disadvantages when you operate A380. on the other hand, A350 is unique, fuel-efficient, and more accessible to new networks. Even though I'm a massive fan of the A380, for the airline's better performance, I would go for 350-1000.
I want to become a pilot and fly the Airbus A350 for Air France or Delta Airlines
Airbus A350XWB
Both are good, no arguments.
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Indeed the A380 should have come in the early 80's.
I am flying from Doha to London in a few weeks and I am disappointed that I am getting the 777 instead of the A380
Although I've never been on either of them, the A380 is my favorite among the 2. Beautiful, gigantic and a magnificent feat of engineering. The A350 comes second tied with the B777
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I love the a350 is the best
Who wrote this. The landscape has shifted, covid aside it’s still the best aircraft for slot restricted airports. London Paris etc
It’s more relevant now than ever. Comparing co2 per hour is foolish when one has the additional passenger capacity as another 737.maybe co2 per passenger which the a380 is ahead. Or if you could put on twice the flights to include the A350 is slot restricted airports the economies of scale of staff os loss. It has been under utilised by most airlines
A380 is amazing but the problem is it is too expensive to buy, A350 Has great range and cheaper flights
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I'm happy just to see Philippine Airlines A340 haha
a380 and its huge wingspan and 4 engines.
The A350 is the future for Airbus
Amd a330neo family ,a320neo family and a220 family
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The A380, of course. Besides the 747. well, i am a dinosaur...
"The global A350 fleet has zero fatalities and no hull loss accidents as of 8 June 2023"
- Wikipedia
I really hope to experience the luxury of a380 one day. However there are no doubts that a350 is superior from a safety and economical perspective.
There are no a380 hull losses either
A380 only had 1 incident (Qantas 32) but it didn't had a crash but the A350 had 1 incident and 1 Accident (Japan Airlines 516)
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A380, need you ask why? 🇨🇦 lol
Hi Rob! Many people think the A380 isn't a very attractive aircraft, compared to the A350. ✈️
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Controversial, but in terms of traveller's perceptions, I think the A380 is a bit overrated. I hear lots of travellers tell me nothing can beat the A380 and they had a lot to say when Mr Al Baker called the A380 what he called it. In terms of passenger experience, from my experience, the only area where the A380 trumps the A350 is noise levels. I didn't find the A350 lacking in sense of space, luggage storage, etc. I guess I'm somewhat spoiled growing up in Asia, where the air travel experience seems to be more pleasant than in Western countries. That goes some way to explaining why people rave about the A380 that's typcially operated by airlines in the east, or it could be be simply down to prestige about flying on "the biggest".
A350 is best because it has 2 engines, end of….✈️
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Da a380 is overrated. Just because it has 2 decks doesn’t make it a great plane.
A350 is much better. A380 is a useless whale.
This comparison doesn’t make sense. Also the A380 flew 35 years or so after the 747, so it was dead on arrival. Airbus finally caught on when they understood that the future is for twin engined jets hence why the A350 is the “better” choice here.
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