Now that this blew up here's a fun fact for you all: I actually didn't realize Rhea had an additional phase when I brought her down to the last one. So like at 32:40 I genuinely thought I was done with the level, RIP... It's the reason why I made a lot of stupid choices like having Annette be in the range of Rhea and breaking my creator sword...but I promise I usually play better than this
Tbh why would I expect mega try hard optimization. If someone did this they would just be rude, implying they didn't care that the point of the video was seeing GOD TIER MEME builds. I appreciate the video lots. I tried to make meme builds but I lacked as much conviction as you lol.
A tool he could've taken advantage of here is the Aura Knuckles. Putting a magical unit into War Master, or War Monk is a prime excuse to use a magical weapon. Especially considering that they're easy to forge and virtually unlimited in repairs.
Sounds like backwards thinking to me. We live in a very specialized, interdependent society, focusing on your strengths would allow you to excel in an area. Our education system is horrendously archaic and in desperate need of modernization.
Thats kinda because of each class having a minimum for each stat, so if your units are too bad the game automatically buffs them when you upgrade your class. So a recent experience of this was my Lysithea getting +7 strength when I got her into Swordmaster. Btw I would definitely recommend maddening, because otherwise there's no challenge at all really, some of these wrong builds get super good believe me.
@@luukjansen4221 I had alot of good builds and like a handful of meh builds on hard mode and I still plowed through it. Maddening actually made me have to read the stats on both sides in order to pass just the first class tournament and I still lost two units anyways. I can't imagine doing this on classic, I would literally stop playing three houses.
@@luukjansen4221 just going to say that Maddening isnt satisfying to me at a certain point. Once you get past the second battle of Gronder field(have absolutely no issues before that point, even Reunion at Dawn aint bad if you actually used your own house units enough), i swear it feels like they suddenly had to quadruple the difficulty as my fastest unit who doubled the entire time is suddenly 20 speed behind the basic grunts, it just gets annoying. The only game ive actually succeeded on the hardest modes are Fates, all three routes, and idk why, but TH just feels unfun when you get the entire map cleared out, but suddenly Nemesis takes no damage from any of your units besides two that he's guaranteed to hit and without critting two-shot.
“I have every character their worst classes” Me who made Mercedes a falcon knight in my first play though because I thought they would be able to use healing.
@@Cure-Skywalker I was disappointed when they made alot of classes gender exclusive again. Like wow Dancer is suddenly non exclusive... but wow all the classes that weren't gender exclusive anymore became gender exclusive again.... yay.
@@francisharkins Having male dancers is pretty cool. Too bad they don't get to have the special hip sway animation the girls do. They just have the default equipped with a sword ones.
Dorothea has a flying weakness along with a low speed growth and of course even lower strength, so wyvern lord could very well be her worst class Idk why Mercedes is in Falcon Knight though she has the speed to pull it off somewhat
@@Autotomize even so, flying utility is just really good. Makes her a better stride bot, she can canto after using a bow, gets incredible mov, etc. That alone makes it better than say a fortress knight or swordmastsr mercedes or dorothea. ((Also wasnt her speed growth something pretty avg like 40% or something?)) The flying weakness shouldnt be too big of a deal as long as you arent hoping to S+ it, haha. Also thanks for bumping im surprised my throwaway comment got so many likes!
@@dylzoe Still, wyvern lord Dorothea is a struggle and I feel she does Swordmaster better due to her sword boon and the class better utilizing speed, along with Astra. The stride bot thing makes sense but you can do that with anyone, without the niche stuff you can do with all of the units I still think Dorothea’s worst class is Wyvern lord. Also this vid goes off of master classes only, Lysithea would absolutely be worse in fortress Knight for example
@@dylzoe Oh frick her speed growth is 40%, she’s as fast as Mercedes what, she feels so slow I’ve never seen Dorothea do well in my experiences, and with research I believe people consider her the worst student mage. That can’t be right, I see Mercedes double with her attacks but never Dorothea. Also you’re welcome! I also enjoy when my comments are replied to lol
And the only other characters that do Are manuela (who has a bane in reason) And constance (who is dlc) I’ve used a magic hilda multiple tumes and she’s pretty good (i use her as a dancer or gremory whenever I do)
I did something like this too. I call it a “joke playthrough.” I tried to put everyone in classes that don’t fit them at all. It’s pretty hilarious when you do something like this. Congrats on this tho. This was great! Idk how you managed to do this on silver snow. This map is insane!
This map was really tough especially since this was my first route and three houses was my first FE game. I learned that splitting my troupes and going fast was a mistake
@@ceoofcomedy8231 It really isn't. This isn't even a joke anymore, everyone just reduces a wonderful character to a single line he says in combat. It upsets me.
Nixahma Chill, it’s just someone having fun with a meme. I’m pretty sure most people actually love Ferdinand (including me), both as a character and as a unit. If Akechi in Persona 5 can be reduced to just the one pancake line he said by the entire fandom despite being one of the most complex (and also popular) characters in the game, people can sure as hell meme for smaller things.
I did a run where all magically oriented units became Great Knights and i turned all physical powerhouses into mages. Turns out some units are way too good no matter where you take them. Looking at you, Felix and Annette.
I did a run which included Mercedes punching everyone to death. Turns out she's another "good at unexpected classes" unit. Ashe also made a surprisingly good Fortress Knight. He wound up heavily resistant to physical AND magic damage, but kept an insane crit rate and speed for double-striking.
"Professor I said I'd allow Flayn to join your class and I knew you were going to keep her safe but I must say I didn't expect you'd make her a great knight and put her on the front lines."
@@breesnutz Gremory or dark knight. Gremory for the extra magic (+5 mag I believe), or dark knight for easier training(budding talent in riding, good at lances)
Yeah, the game really isn't all that hard unless you play maddening. I just do whatever I feel like while playing hard and usually don't really have a challenge until near the end of the playthrough
Jokes on you, I made Raph a dark bishop on my very first playthrough! with like 7 stat boosters he was somewhat-kinda-maybe decent! But in all honesty, it's really fun to have a tanky mage, I hope IS makes an armored mage class someday.
There are armored mages in FE 4. Both the Baron and Emperor class utilize magic, but they belong to no playable units. Kind of a shame. An armored magic-user Lord would be pretty unique and refreshing. Provided they're actually good.
Fates magical hybrid classes are kinda like magic tanks. Oni Chieftain in particular is supposed to be kinda like a Hoshidan armor knight that uses magic
When i make meme runs i just look at the units i havent used alot and make them classes that kind of fit thwir personality/they have a budding talent for. So great knight bernie cause heavy armor is just a movable room, dancer sylvain cause the booty dancing meme etc.
My friend argues that Flayn's best class is being an armored unit/ Great Knight because she has stupid high res which most armored units lack and just by being in an armored class gives you a base defense it helps patch up her low defense stat (along with growth rate bonus by being in the class), making her a great mixed tank. But mostly because she's outclassed as a healer and pegasus knight by other units.
She can't use rescue then which is a great spell. Not to mention fortify If you want the defense, certify her as fortress knight/armored knight, get the class bases, and then switch back to bishop for her faith utility
Gurll.. im insane but not that insane.... My craziest creations : Dancer healer Petra (Queen of Dancing Blades) Wyvern lord Mercedes (Barbarossa Style) Fortress Knight with Knuckle Byleth (Smoked Knuckle Sandwich) Assassin Lysethia (Lightning thief) GK Ingrid with sword (hi crit knight) Paladin Bernie with Axe (hi crit psyco) And my favorite: Bishop Raphael (bruiser galore)
Agreed on Raphel, I'm done it plenty of times especially after getting the DLC, he fits so perfectly into the War Monk class. Another odd one that I've found very fun was Wyvern Master Yuri, a pain in the ass the reach but surprising overpowered and I never once equipped him with an axe.
I'm thinking of doing a shitty classes run someday (probably Blue Lions since it's arguably the most serious route and I'm doing Golden Deer for Maddening) and this has given me a few awful ideas I could use for it, so thanks.
I would actually suggest doing a few extra rules to make it more challenging then... A few i use is the "bottom feeder" rule, where i can ONLY use the units who are the lowest level (or need the most EXP for a new level if two units you must use are the same level), regardless of how well they work as a team. I also limit myself to one weapon per character, and no weapons at all on pure magic classes like mages and priests... On top of this, i pretty much NEVER use Byleth, as it's basicly impossible to make them bad...
Leigh Needleman can attest to this, did my first maddening run recently on Silver Snow and the first few turns are brutal because you’re so inundated with enemy units, plus Seteth is nowhere near as good as a Lord unit (from my experience). Thank goodness for Falcon Knight Petra and Gremory Lysithea
@@hexmaniacciaran Well, by chapter 21 your Seteth should def be good by then, since he's had some time to grow. Swift strikes and his good growths and weapon ranks have always made him excellent for me. Plus he's a wyvern and that's already leading towards the best possible master class for him. I didn't play on maddening but hard classic instead for silver snow. I was definitely surprised but falcon knight Bernadetta somehow got MVP for me on that map. Fliers and bows work wonders here: movement and bows to deal with all the flying white beasts. Wyvern Petra, wyvern Ferdinand, wyvern Seteth, and falcon knight Catherine put in a lot of work here as well.
At some point I want to try doing a talent run of 3houses. Can only use units who have a budding talent and have to build them to it. No special classes (lord classes, enlightened one, dancer) and they have to spec into classes of their talent. As long as it is required to pass the exam. And they can only use a certain weapon if it was also part of the exam pass requirements. So ashe for instance would build through cavalry lines generally but could end as a wyvern since they have a requirement on lances. Marianne could end in dark or holy knight but has to build through the cavalier path and only could access magic at the end I think the best units would be: Dorothea, Flayn, Hilda, Bernie, Ferdie, Claude Worst would probably be Mercedes and Lysithea. Lysithea is too squishy and has minimal strength growths but at least could end in mortal savant I guess. Mercedes though with bows misses out on all her magic and healing, plus doesn't have stellar strength growths
Ferdinand is a master of all traits so of course he would be great, also mortal savant is probally edelgards best not mounted class but at this point is competing with pegasus knight
@@valemontgomery9401 Seems challenging tbh. Although maybe not fun. Mainly cuz it's basically growths only run with almost no class skills, class growths, class combat arts etc. I've never done commoner/noble only tho
Actually. Making mage characters like Lysithea into knight units is amazing. Jusy give them magic weapons. Do not underestimate how deadly magic weapons are in this game.
i did falcon knight mercedes once that was fun i've also done wyvern lord yuri (he has weakness in all three lance, axe, and flying) and he still turned out great
Wyvern Lord Yuri probably turned out great because of the class being one of the if not the strongest class in the entire game. From what I can remember, everyone that focuses on physical damage (though Annette goes that route as well due to her magic axe combat art and weak support spell list) should go wyvern lord, even if some skills required are their banes (exceptions being Dimitri and one or two characters that you stick into the Sniper and Grappler class for that sweet multi-hit combat art). Falco Knights are not too far behind in power. Fliers are seriously broken in this game.
Honestly though, War Master Lin, especially if you take the time to have him be a War Monk first and max that, does pretty amazing. All those brawling avoid skills, aura knuckles, great.
All praise Grappler Hanneman for his Fierce Iron Fist with Aura Gauntlets! I think the Magic Staff also boosts these magic-based weapons, so it isn't a complete meme, but actually somewhat viable.
There are 2 challenge runs I've considered doing for the longest time, but have never had the motivation to pick this game back up to do them: This, & a "One-Trick Pony" challenge, where any & all students you recruit have to be in 1 specific Master class by the end of the game(has to be accessible by both genders). Ideally, the easy mode choice is Mortal Savant, because no Riding/Flying, but you could choose other classes if you're feeling brave.
Finally someone else who gets as much joy out of this as I do. Having maddening runs where my mvp is great knight Annette. Even did full solo runs with the likes of falco knight Mercedes, great knight Ashe. Next one I'm planning is (with mods) war master Lysethia
“I made everyone their worst class” Me who is playing new game plus on golden deer after beating black eagles, recruiting Bernadetta because that’s who I romanced, then realizing that I have too many ranged so build her as my dancer to side step the problem…
I made Bernadette a mage in my original play through because I originally thought she was one for a long time (I had to recruit her) and I was mad that she wasn’t. I also made Flayn an armoured knight as a joke because I didn’t need another healer or mage AND SHE IS VERY GOOD! With enough investment she gets pretty good defense, and with her natural res growth she’s AMAZING
You inspired me to do something similar in Fates, I did a S Support Class Swap, have 1 magic unit marry a strength unit amd partner seal them and get each other's classes. It get's painful. I singlehandedly almost ruined Mozu by making her a Dark Knight while my avatar in turn becomes a Sniper which isnt too bad honestly.
This video encouraged me to either do a Wyvern Rider only run or a War Master only run for all routes Edit: OR a Swordmaster only run or a Mortal Savant only run
This is the literal definition of "just because you can doesn't mean you should". You monster. You beast. You... you actually fucking did it. What a masochist xD
I mean, I did a maxed out run where I got every character maxed out in supports, skills and skill levels. (No I didn't get every character to level 99, but I did get to 60.) Literally took me over 300 play hours to do. This was in Blue Lions as it is the longest playthrough with the most recruitable characters. Golden Deer/Silver Snow had one less recruitable character, and Crimson Flower had smaller amount of chapters. After it was over, I swore I would never play 3 Houses for a year (I've had enough 3H to last me the rest of my life, at least that's what I think). Think of it as New Year's resolution not made on New Year's.
It's more about boons and banes. Units who have weakness in certain weapons - like Mercedes who has banes in swords, Lance and axe. But she actually has hidden talent in bows, which is physical
Absolutely hilarious lmao, but one suggestion. Probably should’ve put Dorothea as a Holy knight because she has banes with Riding and Faith and For a Wyvern lord she is ok with Lances and Axes
I’d suggest sword master Lysithea, but she gets access to soulbalde(?) Via budding talent, so that nullify the shit aspect of that. If you were to do this again, perhaps give some of those hybrid classes a try, with the restriction being no use of class abilities that work around the negatives of a unit, something about a war cleric on a unit not meant for punching seems hella funny
There was a part of me who wanted to do a run like this but instead I resorted to making everyone a mage in my golden deer run lol So kinda half the units getting their worst possible builds lol
you'd be amazed how good Lindhart is as a War Master, 36% chance to pass and he aced it he crits like a mofo so often and he's only using iron knuckles granted this is on normal difficulty but still its awesome
Did you make Edelgard a gremory to copy Hubert's traditional class of dark bishop? (Most people use wyvern Edelgard hence it would be cool if Hubert and Edelgard traded classes that way for a fun run)
@@l.n.3372 Aahh, I wish I had thought of that! Alas, I tend to keep the house leaders close to what their unique timeskip classes are. I had Byleth as a Falcon Knight and Dorothea as a Dark Flier. Caspar was a War Monk, Ferdinand was a Holy Knight, Linhardt was my dancer, and Petra was an assassin.
@@Experiment100Jae Sounds like fun! If you ever are up for another fun challenge, pick a route and stick to characters you tend to pair up, then use them as their partner's opposite class instead xD So for example, if you pair up Ferdinand and Dorothea, use them as their opposite class. I typically make wyvern Ferdinand and dancer/gremory Dorothea. So, wyvern Dorothea and dancer Ferdie xD it's fun! But silly. Which is the best type lol
On maddening, I made hubert a sniper and he was actually really good. The great part was that if I ever came up against an enemy with high def I could just use the magic bow to kill them
I started a random class run for maddening... Annette got sniper, so I get to eventually have a Bow Knight Annette for my first maddening/classic/NO NG+ run.
i did a meme run of blue lions (in which i picked random classes for the students just for fun) and i ended up doing peg knight mercedes. she was really annoying to use, and im not at all surprised to see its her worst build.
this was really fun to watch lol. it's beautiful. also unrelated but, guys, petra's best class is dancer. i made her a dancer in my first playthrough and i certainly didn't regret it. she was stronger than most of my units lmao
Petra is always stronger than most units though. Dancer is a really had use of Petra. The only real benefit it has for her is Sword Avoid +20 and Sword Dance. Her spell pool and magic are bad and she's too good at combat to be using turns dancing. Its better to use a unit with a decent spell pool/magic stat and inferior combat who would perform better as a support unit, like Flayn or Ignatz. Petra's best classes are Wyvern Lord and Bow Knight like most other units, but especially her. Falcon Knight is also a solid option. There's nothing wrong with playing how you want of course! But calling Dancer Petra's best class is pushing it a bit lol.
@@bruabbatrash8917 Haha, no need to apologize. Perhaps "underrated" dancer would be a better term than "best". Sword Avoid +20 on a speedy Petra does sound like one hell of a dodge tank.
I'm doing a SS run where all my team are the mages... and magical Hilda. All of them will be trained in other weapons too, just in case I need them to be.
Now that this blew up here's a fun fact for you all:
I actually didn't realize Rhea had an additional phase when I brought her down to the last one. So like at 32:40 I genuinely thought I was done with the level, RIP...
It's the reason why I made a lot of stupid choices like having Annette be in the range of Rhea and breaking my creator sword...but I promise I usually play better than this
Better than playing through losses in this game, like I did.
Tbh why would I expect mega try hard optimization. If someone did this they would just be rude, implying they didn't care that the point of the video was seeing GOD TIER MEME builds.
I appreciate the video lots.
I tried to make meme builds but I lacked as much conviction as you lol.
Regarding your unit dies spoilers, It makes zero senses since you play in Casual mode
Caspar: Can you even throw a punch?
Linhardt: Bet
Aromaseraphy Lavender Linhardt: you were saying
Caspar:well damn bro
LOL I WISH
He’d probably throw one and then be to tired to continue tbh
Go for a punch!
I like how Byleth's a commoner
Byleth can pretty much be put into any build and succeed. So, give them the starting class with the worst growths in the game.
She’s too OP
I’ve made her a gremony, still OP, just kept her as Enlightened One, OP, swordmaster, OP, it goes on
@@giantheccinwyvern You can use both Gauntlets and spells though.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 And so can most magic classes. That doesn't really make up for the horrid stats and growths compared to *any other class.*
@@giantheccinwyvern >Most magic classes
Gonna have to disagree on that one
I once tried something like this too!
It was called *"Mortal Savant only run feat. Dancer Dedue"*
I did this
0/10 no Holy Knight Raphael
I'm doing an "Oops, All Gremories!" run in BL right now and boy, Petra and Hilda are holding back the class
Kuroyami0Fukaikuro to be fair, Petra is NOT supposed to be a magic unit (I get it’s a joke run), so of course she's going to hold the class back.
Kuroyami0Fukaikuro Hilda is actually one of the best non traditional magic units due to bolting though
Linhardt looks like a fun war master Linhardt: Okay troops tactical war nap
A tool he could've taken advantage of here is the Aura Knuckles. Putting a magical unit into War Master, or War Monk is a prime excuse to use a magical weapon. Especially considering that they're easy to forge and virtually unlimited in repairs.
@@gamermanzeake But that would mean still using proper character attacks
@@gamermanzeake But no, they're not easily forged or repaired because you don't get the Dark Merchant until halfway into part 2.
I actually made Mercedes into an Archer and gave her Magic bow
War Monk Linhardt is actually kinda great with Aura Knuckles
In school, my teacher told me to focus on subjects I'm weak at.
You just bring this into a whole new level XD
Plot twist: the teacher was this byleth
Sounds like backwards thinking to me. We live in a very specialized, interdependent society, focusing on your strengths would allow you to excel in an area.
Our education system is horrendously archaic and in desperate need of modernization.
@@LAZERAK47V2 yeah bro like how can I become a mage if I have to focus on lances? Unbelievable
@@LAZERAK47V2 no-one knows what they want to be at a young age, getting good at everything opens up way more options that getting great at one thing
@@AshenDust_ but to be fair, no ones motivated enough to put their all in every subject because of a lack of direction (also confidence sometimes)
Their stats aren’t even that bad. I definitely want to try this now. Not on maddening though cause that would make me pop a blood vessel.
Thats kinda because of each class having a minimum for each stat, so if your units are too bad the game automatically buffs them when you upgrade your class. So a recent experience of this was my Lysithea getting +7 strength when I got her into Swordmaster.
Btw I would definitely recommend maddening, because otherwise there's no challenge at all really, some of these wrong builds get super good believe me.
It's a good idea to certify your units in the worst possible class as soon you can to take as much advantage of those boosts as possible.
You can make anyone any class and they will work out with enough Grinding
@@luukjansen4221 I had alot of good builds and like a handful of meh builds on hard mode and I still plowed through it.
Maddening actually made me have to read the stats on both sides in order to pass just the first class tournament and I still lost two units anyways. I can't imagine doing this on classic, I would literally stop playing three houses.
@@luukjansen4221 just going to say that Maddening isnt satisfying to me at a certain point. Once you get past the second battle of Gronder field(have absolutely no issues before that point, even Reunion at Dawn aint bad if you actually used your own house units enough), i swear it feels like they suddenly had to quadruple the difficulty as my fastest unit who doubled the entire time is suddenly 20 speed behind the basic grunts, it just gets annoying. The only game ive actually succeeded on the hardest modes are Fates, all three routes, and idk why, but TH just feels unfun when you get the entire map cleared out, but suddenly Nemesis takes no damage from any of your units besides two that he's guaranteed to hit and without critting two-shot.
“I have every character their worst classes”
Me who made Mercedes a falcon knight in my first play though because I thought they would be able to use healing.
it happened to me with flayn the first time I played
Yeah I taught Ingrid healing because it was a healer class in Awakening, lol. Should probably be called something else to avoid confusion
Yeah as someone who played Awakening first I was disappointed to find out 3H Falcon Knights traded out healing for swords.
@@Cure-Skywalker I was disappointed when they made alot of classes gender exclusive again. Like wow Dancer is suddenly non exclusive... but wow all the classes that weren't gender exclusive anymore became gender exclusive again.... yay.
@@francisharkins Having male dancers is pretty cool. Too bad they don't get to have the special hip sway animation the girls do. They just have the default equipped with a sword ones.
-great knight flayn is adorable
-flying is never the worst class for someone to go into
-jesus they are all beefy as hell
-annette op
Dorothea has a flying weakness along with a low speed growth and of course even lower strength, so wyvern lord could very well be her worst class
Idk why Mercedes is in Falcon Knight though she has the speed to pull it off somewhat
@@Autotomize even so, flying utility is just really good. Makes her a better stride bot, she can canto after using a bow, gets incredible mov, etc. That alone makes it better than say a fortress knight or swordmastsr mercedes or dorothea. ((Also wasnt her speed growth something pretty avg like 40% or something?))
The flying weakness shouldnt be too big of a deal as long as you arent hoping to S+ it, haha.
Also thanks for bumping im surprised my throwaway comment got so many likes!
@@dylzoe Still, wyvern lord Dorothea is a struggle and I feel she does Swordmaster better due to her sword boon and the class better utilizing speed, along with Astra. The stride bot thing makes sense but you can do that with anyone, without the niche stuff you can do with all of the units I still think Dorothea’s worst class is Wyvern lord. Also this vid goes off of master classes only, Lysithea would absolutely be worse in fortress Knight for example
@@dylzoe Oh frick her speed growth is 40%, she’s as fast as Mercedes what, she feels so slow I’ve never seen Dorothea do well in my experiences, and with research I believe people consider her the worst student mage. That can’t be right, I see Mercedes double with her attacks but never Dorothea. Also you’re welcome! I also enjoy when my comments are replied to lol
It’s weird how Hilda is actually pretty incredible as a magic unit
(Not on maddening)
She gets bolting!
And the only other characters that do
Are manuela (who has a bane in reason)
And constance (who is dlc)
I’ve used a magic hilda multiple tumes and she’s pretty good (i use her as a dancer or gremory whenever I do)
@@Eo22I005 Any time I make Hilda a dancer, I get her to bolting real quick. Support ALL my attacks!
rumor has it that Bernie's faith spell list isn't half bad either.
I THOUGHT FOR A HOT MINUTE THIS WAS AN FE4 JOKE I'M SAD NOW
Armor Knight Hilda with Bolt Axe+ and she learns magic prior 😗🎶
I did something like this too. I call it a “joke playthrough.” I tried to put everyone in classes that don’t fit them at all. It’s pretty hilarious when you do something like this. Congrats on this tho. This was great! Idk how you managed to do this on silver snow. This map is insane!
This map was really tough especially since this was my first route and three houses was my first FE game. I learned that splitting my troupes and going fast was a mistake
@@parkerwebb7378 That's what we in the Fire Emblem community classify as: a pitfall.
brawler marianne
This is literally every run for me after I beat all four routes
It's nice to know that War Master Linhardt is a dragonslayer in this timeline as well
Note: No Ferdinand because Ferdinand is great at everything.
What did you expect? He is Ferdinand Von Aegir
@@ceoofcomedy8231 Wasn't funny the first time. Not funny now.
@@Nixahma as someone who specializes in bad jokes, I'll take that as a compliment
@@ceoofcomedy8231 It really isn't. This isn't even a joke anymore, everyone just reduces a wonderful character to a single line he says in combat. It upsets me.
Nixahma Chill, it’s just someone having fun with a meme. I’m pretty sure most people actually love Ferdinand (including me), both as a character and as a unit.
If Akechi in Persona 5 can be reduced to just the one pancake line he said by the entire fandom despite being one of the most complex (and also popular) characters in the game, people can sure as hell meme for smaller things.
I did a run where all magically oriented units became Great Knights and i turned all physical powerhouses into mages.
Turns out some units are way too good no matter where you take them. Looking at you, Felix and Annette.
I always made Felix the sword/magic final class
Mage Felix is so underrated, Heck, he was the first unit I had to master both DLC classes.
I did a run which included Mercedes punching everyone to death. Turns out she's another "good at unexpected classes" unit.
Ashe also made a surprisingly good Fortress Knight. He wound up heavily resistant to physical AND magic damage, but kept an insane crit rate and speed for double-striking.
@@troncho1385 he's lethal as a mortal savant, yeah.
Is nobody gonna talk about dark bishop Ferdinand?
The AI is trying to play chess while you destroy them while playing checkers. How it works i wont ever know. But this is beautiful to watch
"Professor I said I'd allow Flayn to join your class and I knew you were going to keep her safe but I must say I didn't expect you'd make her a great knight and put her on the front lines."
Dancer Bernie isn't bad at all though. Her Spell list is utterly amazing.
i am now going to make her a dancer i wanted to put her in magic because i knew she was good but i didnt know which class to put her in
@@breesnutz Gremory or dark knight. Gremory for the extra magic (+5 mag I believe), or dark knight for easier training(budding talent in riding, good at lances)
I just love the dancer Bernie aesthetic, I don’t min-max or anything I just keep her with a bow and train her in sword (even though she sucks at it)
Also Dancer Bernie can learn pass if you teach her in riding making her the perfect dancer por LTC strats
It would be nice if she had the magic stat to utilize it well...
This is the shit we do after completing all routes on maddening + DLC just to feel something. LOL.
This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen and I love it
Great Knight Lysithea ("You are what you kill!")
Omg...Lindhardt as a Brawler 🤣🤣🤣 I never thought I would live to see Lin punching someone. This made my day ☺
This still looks easier than playing with a perfectly optimized team in Maddening.
Yeah, the game really isn't all that hard unless you play maddening. I just do whatever I feel like while playing hard and usually don't really have a challenge until near the end of the playthrough
Interesting. Side note: making Mercedes into a swordmaster was the best idea I've had in this game.
Because Levin Sword?
@@jangoligth Yes
DOROTHEA SAID “WILL THIS EVER END” LMAOOOOO I KNOW ITS A THING SHE NORMALLY SAID BUT STILL
no offence to Dorothea but Linhardt was the real MVP, dude have you seen him?????
I mean, Bernie as a dancer probably wouldn’t be awful mechanically, but from a character perspective, it’s gotta be awful, lmao.
Jokes on you, I made Raph a dark bishop on my very first playthrough! with like 7 stat boosters he was somewhat-kinda-maybe decent!
But in all honesty, it's really fun to have a tanky mage, I hope IS makes an armored mage class someday.
Well, for the game he's in, Boey from Echoes is a pretty tanky mage.
There are armored mages in FE 4. Both the Baron and Emperor class utilize magic, but they belong to no playable units. Kind of a shame. An armored magic-user Lord would be pretty unique and refreshing. Provided they're actually good.
@@Heccct
A playable Arvis? That would be fun as a concept for a future FE: we've never had that as a Lord before
Fates magical hybrid classes are kinda like magic tanks. Oni Chieftain in particular is supposed to be kinda like a Hoshidan armor knight that uses magic
This comment makes me wish edelgard’s unique class could use magic
I gave every class a number and decided by a random number generation what classes each character has. Hyped for bishop claude (instead of barbarossa)
Oh God, what other disasters has the random number generator decided to create?
@@YoshuaYoshoka i think knight lysithea
@@B_A-tr you are a genius
@@itsdoggieplayz4273 thanks
When i make meme runs i just look at the units i havent used alot and make them classes that kind of fit thwir personality/they have a budding talent for. So great knight bernie cause heavy armor is just a movable room, dancer sylvain cause the booty dancing meme etc.
I'm doing all of the routes to make everyone Mortal Savants including alois, Gilbert, and Cyril. I can feel the pain in this video
So, you're doing a Naruto Run?
@@giantheccinwyvern Just wait till they start dropping meteors
max animu run. think I'm gonna try this later
@@cerealbeforemilk3566dorothea? 🤨
My friend argues that Flayn's best class is being an armored unit/ Great Knight because she has stupid high res which most armored units lack and just by being in an armored class gives you a base defense it helps patch up her low defense stat (along with growth rate bonus by being in the class), making her a great mixed tank.
But mostly because she's outclassed as a healer and pegasus knight by other units.
I've always made flayn the dancer since she joins with enough charm to not have to spend a bunch of time raising it
@@nodot17 unless you're playing on Chrimson flower in which you lose flayn which kinda sucks
@@SleepyBrady well in that case I would make Ferdinand von Aegir my dancer
He clearly has the most charisma of that route
I hardly even use Flayn at all
She can't use rescue then which is a great spell. Not to mention fortify
If you want the defense, certify her as fortress knight/armored knight, get the class bases, and then switch back to bishop for her faith utility
Gurll.. im insane but not that insane.... My craziest creations :
Dancer healer Petra (Queen of Dancing Blades)
Wyvern lord Mercedes (Barbarossa Style)
Fortress Knight with Knuckle Byleth (Smoked Knuckle Sandwich)
Assassin Lysethia (Lightning thief)
GK Ingrid with sword (hi crit knight)
Paladin Bernie with Axe (hi crit psyco)
And my favorite:
Bishop Raphael (bruiser galore)
Agreed on Raphel, I'm done it plenty of times especially after getting the DLC, he fits so perfectly into the War Monk class. Another odd one that I've found very fun was Wyvern Master Yuri, a pain in the ass the reach but surprising overpowered and I never once equipped him with an axe.
This is beautiful
I'm thinking of doing a shitty classes run someday (probably Blue Lions since it's arguably the most serious route and I'm doing Golden Deer for Maddening) and this has given me a few awful ideas I could use for it, so thanks.
I would actually suggest doing a few extra rules to make it more challenging then...
A few i use is the "bottom feeder" rule, where i can ONLY use the units who are the lowest level (or need the most EXP for a new level if two units you must use are the same level), regardless of how well they work as a team. I also limit myself to one weapon per character, and no weapons at all on pure magic classes like mages and priests...
On top of this, i pretty much NEVER use Byleth, as it's basicly impossible to make them bad...
Beasthardt was the true mvp.
It was hard seeing Mercy and Annie go down together. Especially with how cool your Mercy was.
I want to do a golden deers play through where everyone is is a brawler
I did that for my second play through. Lysithea can’t deal damage until she gets death blow and magic gauntlets. Once she has both the real fun begins
Except make raphael the dancer lol
I did this for church route. Fun times lol
And everyone just survives using healing focus
The song that plays here is my favourite song in the whole game. Makes me cry a lot. :((
me too so lets cry together :< (>u.u)>
Wait this isn’t how I was supposed play the game?
nice to hear from someone else that silver snow had the hardest final map, i was thinking i mightve just not been that good at the game
it was hard
Look me several hours, all my Divine Pulses and almost 90 turns to beat that damned map. X.x" Not the best FE play obviously, but yeah its hard lol
Silver Snow is hardest of the 4 final maps even on normal mode. On maddening it's borderline insane
Leigh Needleman can attest to this, did my first maddening run recently on Silver Snow and the first few turns are brutal because you’re so inundated with enemy units, plus Seteth is nowhere near as good as a Lord unit (from my experience). Thank goodness for Falcon Knight Petra and Gremory Lysithea
@@hexmaniacciaran
Well, by chapter 21 your Seteth should def be good by then, since he's had some time to grow. Swift strikes and his good growths and weapon ranks have always made him excellent for me. Plus he's a wyvern and that's already leading towards the best possible master class for him.
I didn't play on maddening but hard classic instead for silver snow. I was definitely surprised but falcon knight Bernadetta somehow got MVP for me on that map. Fliers and bows work wonders here: movement and bows to deal with all the flying white beasts. Wyvern Petra, wyvern Ferdinand, wyvern Seteth, and falcon knight Catherine put in a lot of work here as well.
I used Annette as an armor knight in my first maddening run and it worked so well, the world told me No, but my mind told me Yes. I cut a path
DAMN LIN LOOKS GOOD; TIME TO THROW THAT S SUPPORT AT HIS BEAUTIFUL FACE
I’m wheezing at Byleth’s name
Mercie as a falcon knight is super pretty
I played her as a dark flier and she was 1) beautiful and 2) stupid good
I want to make hilda a cleric because she is similar to serra
I made mine a warcleric she is surprisingly good at it
What I'm seeing is that in spite of everything, if you really try to make it work in this game, it can work
At some point I want to try doing a talent run of 3houses. Can only use units who have a budding talent and have to build them to it. No special classes (lord classes, enlightened one, dancer) and they have to spec into classes of their talent. As long as it is required to pass the exam. And they can only use a certain weapon if it was also part of the exam pass requirements. So ashe for instance would build through cavalry lines generally but could end as a wyvern since they have a requirement on lances. Marianne could end in dark or holy knight but has to build through the cavalier path and only could access magic at the end
I think the best units would be: Dorothea, Flayn, Hilda, Bernie, Ferdie, Claude
Worst would probably be Mercedes and Lysithea. Lysithea is too squishy and has minimal strength growths but at least could end in mortal savant I guess. Mercedes though with bows misses out on all her magic and healing, plus doesn't have stellar strength growths
You can just use levin sword + though, scales off lysithea’s magic stat
Ferdinand is a master of all traits so of course he would be great, also mortal savant is probally edelgards best not mounted class but at this point is competing with pegasus knight
With each unit I wanted to scream, "Why?!" Lol I never knew I could laugh so hard. This is so painful 😂 Each move got worse and worse!
Anything works on Hard, still funny though. On Maddening 30 strength at the end is really bad, where as in Hard it is just fine.
I had the loudest laugh at Bernadette dance class omg that’s just cruel 😂😂😂😂
This is great and all...
But what about Noble/Commoner only?
I did that once, that was fun...
Fire Emblem Discussion started a Blue Lions run where nobody can promote and they must stay as either commoner or noble
Leigh Needleman Yep, I've seen that. I also saw a screenshot of someone doing a CF run
@@valemontgomery9401
Seems challenging tbh. Although maybe not fun. Mainly cuz it's basically growths only run with almost no class skills, class growths, class combat arts etc.
I've never done commoner/noble only tho
Leigh Needleman One advantage is that every character can use magic, meaning you won't be short on healing
This is cursed and hilarious at the same time.
Actually. Making mage characters like Lysithea into knight units is amazing. Jusy give them magic weapons. Do not underestimate how deadly magic weapons are in this game.
I also made this in my GD route... It was a pain, anyway, good job for doing this, that map really looks complicated
i did falcon knight mercedes once that was fun
i've also done wyvern lord yuri (he has weakness in all three lance, axe, and flying) and he still turned out great
Wyvern Lord Yuri probably turned out great because of the class being one of the if not the strongest class in the entire game. From what I can remember, everyone that focuses on physical damage (though Annette goes that route as well due to her magic axe combat art and weak support spell list) should go wyvern lord, even if some skills required are their banes (exceptions being Dimitri and one or two characters that you stick into the Sniper and Grappler class for that sweet multi-hit combat art).
Falco Knights are not too far behind in power.
Fliers are seriously broken in this game.
@@thatonepersonnoonecaresabo3163 you know what you're probably right. my wyvern lord bernadetta on my current file is great too
@@mirijoy1012 Also because Yuri has the highest speed growth in the entire game and you're still putting him in a speedy class.
i made a peg knight mercedes but i also specced her in bows. so with a magic bow flyer mercedes is great
Honestly though, War Master Lin, especially if you take the time to have him be a War Monk first and max that, does pretty amazing. All those brawling avoid skills, aura knuckles, great.
Some characters are surprising when it comes to their potential. Hanneman as a War Master + Aura Gauntlets + Magic Bow, not a bad combo.
All praise Grappler Hanneman for his Fierce Iron Fist with Aura Gauntlets!
I think the Magic Staff also boosts these magic-based weapons, so it isn't a complete meme, but actually somewhat viable.
Bolt Axe is better than Magic Bow, except against Fliers.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 I understand that, but he has good bow abilities, or at least one, which works as a silence.
@@an0rangutan That's fair
Lin opening up a can o whoopass on people cracked me up
There are 2 challenge runs I've considered doing for the longest time, but have never had the motivation to pick this game back up to do them: This, & a "One-Trick Pony" challenge, where any & all students you recruit have to be in 1 specific Master class by the end of the game(has to be accessible by both genders). Ideally, the easy mode choice is Mortal Savant, because no Riding/Flying, but you could choose other classes if you're feeling brave.
36:23
You killed my boy...
I'll remember that
Luckily glad he had it on that they retreat because I cannot handle losing Raphael
I made a Armored Marianne purely because she shares the same voice as Haru
Edit: I forgot only males can be war masters
War Master is only for boys so how did you make her a war Master 🤔
War Master linhardt is funny on literally every level omg
I forgot how freaking good this theme is.
Finally someone else who gets as much joy out of this as I do. Having maddening runs where my mvp is great knight Annette. Even did full solo runs with the likes of falco knight Mercedes, great knight Ashe. Next one I'm planning is (with mods) war master Lysethia
Therapist: Dorothea Wyvern Lord does not exist. She can't hurt you.
Dorothea Wyvern Lord:
This is the kind of game where anyone can be anything and still do pretty well (Unless this is on maddening mode)
Falcon knight mercedes is really strong with her personal gem that gets rid of your weaknesses (so bows in this case)
“I made everyone their worst class”
Me who is playing new game plus on golden deer after beating black eagles, recruiting Bernadetta because that’s who I romanced, then realizing that I have too many ranged so build her as my dancer to side step the problem…
Where’s W A R M A S T E R L O R E N Z smh
I made Bernadette a mage in my original play through because I originally thought she was one for a long time (I had to recruit her) and I was mad that she wasn’t.
I also made Flayn an armoured knight as a joke because I didn’t need another healer or mage AND SHE IS VERY GOOD! With enough investment she gets pretty good defense, and with her natural res growth she’s AMAZING
You inspired me to do something similar in Fates, I did a S Support Class Swap, have 1 magic unit marry a strength unit amd partner seal them and get each other's classes. It get's painful. I singlehandedly almost ruined Mozu by making her a Dark Knight while my avatar in turn becomes a Sniper which isnt too bad honestly.
Corrin is good in nearly every class. The Heirs of Fate DLC Final Map reward makes bow users even better.
Man. I never expected the playstyle. I always play with Byleth's army's strengths and no weaknesses.
This video encouraged me to either do a Wyvern Rider only run or a War Master only run for all routes
Edit: OR a Swordmaster only run or a Mortal Savant only run
I made Hilda a mortal savant on my golden deer playthrough haha
This is the literal definition of "just because you can doesn't mean you should".
You monster. You beast. You... you actually fucking did it. What a masochist xD
It is terrifying how good most of them actually were in their worst classes
Yeah who would make Raphael a dark bishop hahahhahahhahahahhahahaha
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Lindhart : Today I was lucky
Me : Hell yeah you are Lindhart
I’ve never seen non maddening silver snow final map. Maddening has like 20 enemies in range turn 1. Definitely a cool challenge though
I'm having a lot of fun with my Mortal Savant Marianne. I thought it was going to be a meme but it's been working out pretty nicely.
How about war cleric Marianne 👊👊
@@2nii2 That sounds like it would be strong but also too fitting for it to really be a meme. I'm still gonna try it though.
But she is weak in brawling yeah she likes white magic but kinda hilarious seeing sweet animal lover punch you to the death😆
Ok but now I actually want Falcon Knight Mercedes lol
Yo yo yo, Hilda learns bolting?
Yep she was surprisingly the best mage in my run!
@Merciless Freak why?
I mean, I did a maxed out run where I got every character maxed out in supports, skills and skill levels. (No I didn't get every character to level 99, but I did get to 60.)
Literally took me over 300 play hours to do.
This was in Blue Lions as it is the longest playthrough with the most recruitable characters. Golden Deer/Silver Snow had one less recruitable character, and Crimson Flower had smaller amount of chapters.
After it was over, I swore I would never play 3 Houses for a year (I've had enough 3H to last me the rest of my life, at least that's what I think). Think of it as New Year's resolution not made on New Year's.
So you made physical units mages and mages physical units
Pretty much. I might try some of these myself
It's more about boons and banes. Units who have weakness in certain weapons - like Mercedes who has banes in swords, Lance and axe. But she actually has hidden talent in bows, which is physical
Absolutely hilarious lmao, but one suggestion. Probably should’ve put Dorothea as a Holy knight because she has banes with Riding and Faith and For a Wyvern lord she is ok with Lances and Axes
A holy knight can use reason which Dorothea excels in and she has a budding talent in faith so the only weakness would be riding
Steven Schaeffer oh I was unaware of the budding talent. But you don’t actually need reason to become a holy knight
Yes but she can use it as a holy knight
Steven Schaeffer ohhhh alright then, yeah wyvern rider makes sense
I probably would've gone with Great Knight for Dorothea, since Wyvern Lord is still a great class, whereas Great Knight is kinda lackluster
This was how my first playthrough looked like LOL
I made Hilda a gremory on my blue lions play through for fun, and she ended up being surprisingly effective with 4 uses of bolting
Swordmaster Lysithea is valid on Hard mode
I have Petra as a dancer in my maddening Blue Lion playthrough and she was awesome. Never got hit with the sword avoid
"i used fan favorites"
*has Lindhardt and Raphael in party instead of Marianne and Ferdinand*
I’d suggest sword master Lysithea, but she gets access to soulbalde(?) Via budding talent, so that nullify the shit aspect of that. If you were to do this again, perhaps give some of those hybrid classes a try, with the restriction being no use of class abilities that work around the negatives of a unit, something about a war cleric on a unit not meant for punching seems hella funny
There was a part of me who wanted to do a run like this but instead I resorted to making everyone a mage in my golden deer run lol
So kinda half the units getting their worst possible builds lol
I remember my first route accidentally being this and all I had left when I beat the boss was Catherine and I.
Wait, whatttt???? Hilda gets Bolting??? I'm really impressed.
when mercedes takes out a health bar of the white beast by herself
you'd be amazed how good Lindhart is as a War Master,
36% chance to pass and he aced it
he crits like a mofo so often
and he's only using iron knuckles
granted this is on normal difficulty but still its awesome
I made Hubert a Wyvern Lord (flying and axe being weaknesses) and he was BADASS!!! I was so proud 😊
Did you make Edelgard a gremory to copy Hubert's traditional class of dark bishop? (Most people use wyvern Edelgard hence it would be cool if Hubert and Edelgard traded classes that way for a fun run)
@@l.n.3372 Aahh, I wish I had thought of that! Alas, I tend to keep the house leaders close to what their unique timeskip classes are. I had Byleth as a Falcon Knight and Dorothea as a Dark Flier. Caspar was a War Monk, Ferdinand was a Holy Knight, Linhardt was my dancer, and Petra was an assassin.
@@Experiment100Jae
Sounds like fun! If you ever are up for another fun challenge, pick a route and stick to characters you tend to pair up, then use them as their partner's opposite class instead xD
So for example, if you pair up Ferdinand and Dorothea, use them as their opposite class. I typically make wyvern Ferdinand and dancer/gremory Dorothea. So, wyvern Dorothea and dancer Ferdie xD it's fun! But silly. Which is the best type lol
On maddening, I made hubert a sniper and he was actually really good. The great part was that if I ever came up against an enemy with high def I could just use the magic bow to kill them
@@l.n.3372 Fun! I'm currently doing BL and I have Mercedes as an archer, she's gonna be a bow knight 🤣
I started a random class run for maddening... Annette got sniper, so I get to eventually have a Bow Knight Annette for my first maddening/classic/NO NG+ run.
i did a meme run of blue lions (in which i picked random classes for the students just for fun) and i ended up doing peg knight mercedes. she was really annoying to use, and im not at all surprised to see its her worst build.
this was really fun to watch lol. it's beautiful.
also unrelated but, guys, petra's best class is dancer. i made her a dancer in my first playthrough and i certainly didn't regret it. she was stronger than most of my units lmao
Petra is always stronger than most units though. Dancer is a really had use of Petra. The only real benefit it has for her is Sword Avoid +20 and Sword Dance. Her spell pool and magic are bad and she's too good at combat to be using turns dancing.
Its better to use a unit with a decent spell pool/magic stat and inferior combat who would perform better as a support unit, like Flayn or Ignatz.
Petra's best classes are Wyvern Lord and Bow Knight like most other units, but especially her. Falcon Knight is also a solid option.
There's nothing wrong with playing how you want of course! But calling Dancer Petra's best class is pushing it a bit lol.
@@Ultinarok47 idk she was just really good as a dancer, sorry for exaggerating
@@bruabbatrash8917 Haha, no need to apologize. Perhaps "underrated" dancer would be a better term than "best". Sword Avoid +20 on a speedy Petra does sound like one hell of a dodge tank.
I'm doing a SS run where all my team are the mages... and magical Hilda.
All of them will be trained in other weapons too, just in case I need them to be.