What is going on with Fallout 5?

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
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    Today we talk about Fallout 5. The game has saw a ton of new discussion recently and we may have event gotten further clues as to Fallout 5's release date and Fallout 5's location.
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:15 - Everything We Know About Fallout 5
    05:05 - Fallout 5 Setting
    10:02 - Fallout 5 Release Date
    13:38 - Spinoff Fallout Games
    Twitter: / juicehead33
    Discord: / discord
    Sources:
    Fallout TV creators say it’s basically Fallout 5 and talk the pressure of The Last of Us' success: www.gamesradar.com/fallout-tv...
    Fallout’s Todd Howard Addresses Whether the TV Series Is Really Fallout 5: www.denofgeek.com/tv/fallout-...
    Fallout 4 Next-Gen Announced: fallout.bethesda.net/en/artic...
    Leaked Bethesda Roadmap: www.eurogamer.net/leaked-beth...
    Todd Howard Says Bethesda Has a One-Pager on Fallout 5: • Todd Howard on Skyrim'...
    Todd Howard on Fallout 5 after The Elder Scrolls 6: • Starfield Interview: T...
    Todd Howard on Fallout 5 Some Point After The Elder Scrolls 6: • Starfield: Developer I...
    Oblivion Remake Leak: www.xfire.com/remake-the-elde...
    Leaked Bethesda roadmap reveals unannounced releases including Dishonored 3: www.eurogamer.net/leaked-beth... Show Creators Envision the Prime Video Series as a ‘Fallout 5’: www.ign.com/articles/fallout-...
    The History of Bethesda Game Studios: • The History of Bethesd... San Francisco - Let's Play Fallout 2: • San Francisco - Let's ...
    Fallout 2 Hubologist Gameplay: • Become a HUBOLOGIST Wi...
    Fallout 3&4 - Railroad, Institute & Synths in Fallout 3 and mentions of Dr. Zimmer in Fallout 4: • Fallout 3&4 - Railroad...
    Fallout 5 Logo: www.deviantart.com/fantomvisu...
    Fallout TV Show SFX Magazine: / sfx_magazine_article_w...
    Fallout TV Show Canon: www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...
    Fallout Franchise Fan Art: www.deviantart.com/lagrie/art...
    Fallout 3 Project Purity Gameplay: • Let's Play Fallout 3 G...
    Fallout 4 Deacon Gameplay: • Restored Content: Deac...
    New York Footage: • Royalty Free Videos Of...
    Fallout 4 Endings: • Fallout 4:All Endings
    Fallout 4 - Doctor Madison Li in Fallout 3 and 10 years later in Fallout 4: • Fallout 4 - Doctor Mad...
    The Elder Scrolls 16 in 2026: www.theverge.com/microsoft/20...
    The Elder Scrolls 6 5+ Years Away: / 1672314548995366935
    Thumbnail: www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/im...
    Author - Liloee
    #Fallout5 #Bethesda #FalloutRemaster
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  • @JuiceHead3
    @JuiceHead3  2 месяца назад +24

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    • @mattparker9726
      @mattparker9726 2 месяца назад +3

      I legitimately DON'T CARE, Bethesda post Starfield, is done. It has shown to the entire world, that it can't write or create anything good or new. The only reason it's not bankrupt, is past glory and sycophant, sunk cost fallacy fanboys. I'm out.

  • @innocentbystander1993
    @innocentbystander1993 2 месяца назад +1994

    Nothing. Nothing is going on with fallout 5. Nothing will *be* going on with fallout 5 until after the next elder scrolls game.

    • @justinbellpa
      @justinbellpa 2 месяца назад +161

      If they'd just let obsidian in on it

    • @Cocostinkypaws
      @Cocostinkypaws 2 месяца назад +167

      @@justinbellpaso they can make another boring game like The Outer Worlds? No thanksssss

    • @thacoolest13
      @thacoolest13 2 месяца назад +18

      ​@@Cocostinkypaws Hopefully their next game is better

    • @austindrake4697
      @austindrake4697 2 месяца назад +58

      ​@Cocostinkypaws it was boring but glad it works.. 16 releases of skyrim. Still rocking launch bugs.

    • @austindrake4697
      @austindrake4697 2 месяца назад +24

      ​@Cocostinkypaws I am praying Bethesda finds a new engine and some talent between starfield and their next game. . 2077 was bad but it got fixed. Something Bethesda does not have the in house talent to achieve.

  • @Plight_
    @Plight_ 2 месяца назад +277

    "Since fallout 3 is only 16 years old i will not spoil that cannon ending for you"
    you said that way too seriously

    • @ThaiRestaurant676
      @ThaiRestaurant676 2 месяца назад +4

      So what is the cannon ending

    • @Plight_
      @Plight_ 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ThaiRestaurant676 hasn't been confirmed. The good ending would make DC a Paradise with clean water from project purity and plant life coming from Oasis though.

    • @drewwar9344
      @drewwar9344 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@Plight_This ending was confirmed and fallout 4 during the railroad missions with a Deacon. He talks about how the water is clean and you can drink it.

    • @sjoroverpirat
      @sjoroverpirat Месяц назад

      It's still in my backlog. I'll start on it after kingdom come deliverance, a 6 year old game

    • @danger_0795
      @danger_0795 Месяц назад +2

      @@Plight_if i recall correctly in fo4 talking with paladin dance, he talks about the battle with the enclave in dc and how the bos won

  • @Multifidi20
    @Multifidi20 2 месяца назад +925

    It"s 20 years away.

    • @Papa-Murphy
      @Papa-Murphy 2 месяца назад +59

      Still using creation engine

    • @jakethecake1239
      @jakethecake1239 2 месяца назад +11

      @@Papa-Murphyunfortunately

    • @Swy2023
      @Swy2023 2 месяца назад +11

      Probably be dead by then 😂

    • @SigmaDix
      @SigmaDix 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@Swy2023Same. But thats if nuclear war kicks off

    • @marjoe32
      @marjoe32 2 месяца назад +11

      Legit not even a joke anymore if you count back from 4 cuz we don't speak about 76

  • @yerabbit6333
    @yerabbit6333 2 месяца назад +443

    shocking Microsoft would be okay with sitting on a major game franchise for so long

    • @jodieholmes8453
      @jodieholmes8453 2 месяца назад +17

      Cope and seethe. Obsidian isn't making another Fallout game.

    • @GrievousReborn
      @GrievousReborn 2 месяца назад +30

      Except Elder Scrolls fans have been waiting longer for another game that isn't ESO or Elder Scrolls blades then Fallout fans have

    • @eyakimicki
      @eyakimicki 2 месяца назад +6

      this doesnt rule out other studios/bethesda branches making fallout spinoffs like New Vegas

    • @GoalOrientedLifting
      @GoalOrientedLifting 2 месяца назад +12

      It's cause fallout and elder scrolls share almost the same fanbase

    • @GoalOrientedLifting
      @GoalOrientedLifting 2 месяца назад +9

      @@jodieholmes8453i hope they aren't. Cause it would be worse than outer worlds

  • @semisolidsnake7103
    @semisolidsnake7103 2 месяца назад +32

    Dawg, we gonna be playing Fallout irl before Fallout: 5 comes out

    • @jordyvermeulen2121
      @jordyvermeulen2121 Месяц назад

      Modern nukes do not have the fallout problem anymore whit modern hydrogen bombs the outside is safe after ,72 hours .
      Hence why nuclear war has never been more realistic as today

    • @scobra5941
      @scobra5941 17 дней назад

      @@jordyvermeulen2121 You have nothing to worry about anyway as you'll be a shadow on the floor along with the rest of us. Any survivors will wish they weren't.

  • @gsoma4022
    @gsoma4022 2 месяца назад +233

    Todd howard himself said no fallput 5 news till like 2030

    • @seanmcneil6922
      @seanmcneil6922 2 месяца назад +59

      Todd is also a known liar.

    • @btbarr16
      @btbarr16 2 месяца назад +19

      They'll need that long to make the Creation Engine actually look and play next Gen.

    • @SunBear-kh2td
      @SunBear-kh2td 2 месяца назад +7

      Todd isn't behind the wheel anymore.

    • @VaulDweller553
      @VaulDweller553 2 месяца назад +18

      ​@@btbarr16 They need a new engine entirely... it's just ridiculous by this point.

    • @btbarr16
      @btbarr16 2 месяца назад +5

      @@VaulDweller553 can't argue with that. I was worried about the game when there were those leaks from a supposed Bethesda dev that said, "make no mistake about it, Creation Engine 2 is just Creation engine with higher definition textures." That clearly seems to be exactly what it is.

  • @yakomuto
    @yakomuto 2 месяца назад +303

    Sorta hard to be excited about anything Bethesda Studios is doing at this point.

    • @winyonzentrada
      @winyonzentrada 2 месяца назад +56

      Yep, all trust gone out of the window after Starfield

    • @chamberkun
      @chamberkun 2 месяца назад +31

      ​@@winyonzentrada Fr Starfield was awful

    • @joemedina4731
      @joemedina4731 2 месяца назад +16

      @@winyonzentradaand guess what? There’s rumors that the infamous Sweet Baby Inc put their hands on the game, no wonder it’s complete bogus

    • @aaronlaughter6471
      @aaronlaughter6471 2 месяца назад +9

      @chamberkun Really, awful, I could list 10 games worse then Starfield right now, yet you still claim Starfield is the worst game ever. Until another youtube video tells you what to think.

    • @Amins88
      @Amins88 2 месяца назад +5

      Trust in Bethesda started to erode with Skyrim. It lost most of its foundation with Fallout 4, and was completely gone with 76. Starfield's failure was obvious years ago.

  • @Unpainted_Huffhines
    @Unpainted_Huffhines 2 месяца назад +144

    Todd Howard was very clear. Fallout 5 will come out at some point in time between ESVI and the heat death of the universe.
    I appreciate the clarification to "after ESVI", I was worried time might reverse direction and Fallout 5 would release in 2008.

    • @twentysecondnomad8177
      @twentysecondnomad8177 2 месяца назад +3

      at what point does microsoft ask or fund bethesda to create another studio to exploit their IPs with tho? like with ubisoft montreal or whatever

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 2 месяца назад +2

      @@twentysecondnomad8177 I can't imagine Microsoft executives are very happy about one of their properties taking multiple decades in between extremely popular franchise releases. It's a terrible business model.

  • @FelipeSalesGuitar
    @FelipeSalesGuitar 2 месяца назад +83

    I think that in one of Kellog's flashbacks in FO4, it's mentioned on the radio that San Francisco was indeed annexed by the NCR.

    • @RobotWithHumanHair.
      @RobotWithHumanHair. 2 месяца назад +9

      From what I remember there’s no indication of it being annexed by the NCR, actually it seems like it was still independent at least from the dialogue we see, Kellogg moved to San Fran to escape the NCR and work for the Shi and he only left after his wife and daughter were murdered.

    • @IAmFwee
      @IAmFwee 2 месяца назад +3

      No, you're thinking of the sequence in his childhood where the radio announcer mentions the Hub voting to join the NCR.

    • @carcinogenical4389
      @carcinogenical4389 2 месяца назад

      Doesn't matter now the NCR is fucking gone

    • @Name-nz4kt
      @Name-nz4kt 2 месяца назад

      Only in the show, which despite what Todd says- I don't consider it canon​@@carcinogenical4389

    • @Costenyo
      @Costenyo Месяц назад +1

      @@carcinogenical4389It’s not, It just moved to NORCAL instead of Southern California

  • @troyl200
    @troyl200 2 месяца назад +417

    San Francisco is Fallout now. Literally, just walk outside. Same Sh*t.

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 2 месяца назад +14

      That’s the truth!

    • @hanselsantiago7741
      @hanselsantiago7741 2 месяца назад +45

      Never seen a fallout character shitting in the streets. I could be wrong.

    • @BenChieeal
      @BenChieeal 2 месяца назад

      @@hanselsantiago7741Democrats cities are worse than nuclear bombs dropping: confirmed

    • @DougsDiggers
      @DougsDiggers 2 месяца назад +25

      @hanselsantiago7741 Fallout: India

    • @troyl200
      @troyl200 2 месяца назад +22

      @@hanselsantiago7741 They're playing on hardcore mode.

  • @wastelander138
    @wastelander138 2 месяца назад +18

    I think when Todd was like, "It might not be right after ES6." I think he believed that Starfield would be bigger than what it is, and he would be planning to drop the sequel before Fo5.

  • @TheArgonaut540
    @TheArgonaut540 2 месяца назад +43

    I ask two things of Bethesda:
    1. Don’t do New York. It’s too similar Boston in terms of environment and culture.
    2. Don’t canonize one of the endings for New Vegas, unless they either set the game decades down the road or Vegas is just glassed off-screen.

    • @alaric_
      @alaric_ 2 месяца назад +6

      Also, from non-US perspective, the FO3 setting in Washington is too similar to New York/Boston/The Pitt.. Dense urban areas with heavy bombing... I highly think/hope they'll go anywhere else that hasn't been already seen and played in the games. Making game "some time later" is just so dumb as it would have to include SO much of the stuff previous games that it would be limiting. The questions like "Where is X? What happened to X? X should be in the game, he/she lived here! Why didn't X affect this?!" would be endless and extremely annoying. So, Bay Area is out, imo.
      There are still locations not used like the deep south, US/annexed-Canadian border, north-west US, Rockies... Why limit on areas already seen!?
      New place, new plot, player making new story with their choises... That's what i want.

    • @joemedina4731
      @joemedina4731 2 месяца назад +7

      Too late for number 2, they made the NCR ending cannon and a conflict between them and BOS in the tv show, you know how Todd likes to butcher the lore whenever he sees fit

    • @mroggie8334
      @mroggie8334 2 месяца назад +1

      @@joemedina4731 The cannon ending for New Vegas is The Legion wins the battle for Hoover dam... but the way the narrative of the story goes the cannon ending is irrelevant.

    • @Amins88
      @Amins88 2 месяца назад +2

      @@alaric_ I agree one hundred percent. There is so much more of America and it's frustrating that the focus has to he locked into just two general locations. But honestly, this is an issue bigger than just Fallout. Most mainstream media set in America is stuck in New York/LA. We have such a limited perspective of our own country.
      And on a side note, I know the Fallout series is so deeply rooted in American culture, but it would really be nice to have something that gives us more insight into what has happened outside of the country. It would definitely need to be delegated to a spinoff title or DLC, but I'd love to see a Fallout story in China or Europe.

    • @BobLoblaw223
      @BobLoblaw223 2 месяца назад +1

      IMO the canon ending to New Vegas is siding with House. Putting aside the fact that he's by far the best choice, it just makes the most sense that the courier as a character wouldn't betray the man who saved their life.

  • @lchris2703
    @lchris2703 2 месяца назад +40

    In twenty years or so, will there still be a significant Fallout Fan/Player base?

    • @Osok21
      @Osok21 2 месяца назад +4

      As a veteran of the near-decade of wandering in the wilderness between Fallout 2 and Fallout 3 (back when, for a time, it was uncertain if Fallout would *ever* get a sequel) - yes. :p

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming 2 месяца назад +2

      Only if more *game* size mods keep releasing for Fo4, Like london this april, And that Fo76 fan sequel in the works

    • @biosyn-ab4261
      @biosyn-ab4261 2 месяца назад +7

      In 20 years or so from now, we will be LIVING in the Fallout world.

    • @TyshaggyGaming
      @TyshaggyGaming 2 месяца назад

      @@biosyn-ab4261 Give or take 5 years

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 2 месяца назад +16

      Fallout fans will be eligible for social security before Fallout 5 comes out.

  • @Marnie_C
    @Marnie_C 2 месяца назад +19

    Having the next game take place close by to the show makes sense. The game would get "free" pre-production from the show and as the Bethesda studios haven't touched the west coast the show could act as a way for them to set some things up

  • @heavyartillery-qm5hu
    @heavyartillery-qm5hu 2 месяца назад +40

    Why are we talking about a game that will come out when we are all dead?

    • @OkaySoShit
      @OkaySoShit 2 месяца назад

      Hi

    • @user-qg4zb6jt9s
      @user-qg4zb6jt9s 2 месяца назад +10

      He's talking for the ghouls in the chat be considerate

    • @tankpea2
      @tankpea2 2 месяца назад +1

      I mean , it is likely that it will come out sometime between 2030 and 2035 , so yeah i do think we would be alive by then

  • @ARealFreeAgent
    @ARealFreeAgent 2 месяца назад +31

    Todd need to be bringing up an update on the fallout 4 next-gen update. D a m fallout 5.

  • @TheReader6
    @TheReader6 2 месяца назад +65

    New York is not the best state in the Union.

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 2 месяца назад +11

      That’s true! I live in NY, the game would be boring here, no guns to find

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@charlieb308Did you just say there's no guns in NYC?

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 2 месяца назад +29

      @@Unpainted_Huffhines No guns for the regular people just the criminals

    • @user-qg4zb6jt9s
      @user-qg4zb6jt9s 2 месяца назад

      ​@@charlieb308just be a Raider simple

    • @Unpainted_Huffhines
      @Unpainted_Huffhines 2 месяца назад +2

      @charlieb308 So there _would_ be guns to find there.

  • @kmyymk2
    @kmyymk2 2 месяца назад +13

    Im just gonna say wouldnt it be crazy if during the end credits of the tv show a trailer starts for fallout 5

  • @mikeyt708
    @mikeyt708 2 месяца назад +57

    me personally, i'm hoping fallout 5 could take place in the midwest, having a nuclear winter setting instead of another desert would be interesting.
    i even thought of an idea of having it take place in the Twin Cities in Minnesota (St.Paul and Minneapolis) and they could be called the Twin Wastelands.

    • @mr.schrodinger
      @mr.schrodinger 2 месяца назад +2

      100% I think this is the direction we need

    • @seansglasses
      @seansglasses 2 месяца назад +4

      Love the Twin Cities idea! I've always thought Fallout Chicago would be a cool setting as well.

    • @charles0396
      @charles0396 2 месяца назад

      I might be misremembering something, but I thought there was an unspoken consensus that Bethesda would only delve into the east coast

    • @RobotWithHumanHair.
      @RobotWithHumanHair. 2 месяца назад

      @@charles0396no that’s just fan nonsense. San Francisco was one of the few potential locations for fallout 5. Obsidian added a line in New Vegas saying that after the events of fallout 2 the Enclave had nuked the city believing that they had assisted in the destruction of the oil rig. Bethesda had asked them to remove it because they wanted to keep the possibility of returning to San Francisco open for a future game.

    • @Amins88
      @Amins88 2 месяца назад

      Having grown up in Michigan, I loved the idea of a Midwest setting for Fallout, and the series desperately needs representation outside of just the West and East coast. Having a game set in the Detroit area and spilling over to Ontario for some direct insight into prewar annexed Canada could be interesting. But it is fairly obvious the next game will be set in San Fransisco.

  • @Dervraka
    @Dervraka 2 месяца назад +6

    Personally I would like to see Bethesda get out of this "east/west coast" mindset and do something new like Chicago, Kansas City, Minneapolis etc. But I guess I understand why they might not, there is already a ton of lore from the east and west coast, but the Midwest is a blank slate.

    • @odinulveson9101
      @odinulveson9101 2 месяца назад

      Fallout Tactics Midwestern BoS were badass, need to retcon the modern weapons then voila!

  • @justinjeffries1554
    @justinjeffries1554 2 месяца назад +12

    La is closer to Vegas than San Fran . Not only that but LA is part of the NCR 💀 so then playing neck deep in NCR territory is troubling considering we haven't seen any NCR

    • @Sgt.chickens
      @Sgt.chickens 2 месяца назад +4

      It was Implied In new vegas that no matter what win or lose the NCR would likely overstretch itself and collapse. I feel like that's the storyline that's happening since the NCR in the trailer look more Rag tag

    • @RobotWithHumanHair.
      @RobotWithHumanHair. 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Sgt.chickensyeah I assumed that win or lose new Vegas this would happen but I was still hoping they’d actually give us a canon ending to NV

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 2 месяца назад

      @@RobotWithHumanHair. i'd rather they not open that can of worms and anger the playerbase at large, because no matter the outcome, there would be outrage.

    • @adzappin_2567
      @adzappin_2567 2 месяца назад

      in the fallout show the ncr is relatively non existent

  • @calebelkins217
    @calebelkins217 2 месяца назад +31

    As a native Floridian, I think Florida would be an amazing Fallout setting. Large creatures and bugs, the Everglades, abandoned theme parks, “mickey” entering public domain, beaches, Florida man, hurricanes, snow birds, and plenty more. The lore could be endless

    • @BobLoblaw223
      @BobLoblaw223 2 месяца назад +4

      Yeah Florida would have a lot of potential. Gatorclaws could make a comeback and kind of replace deathclaws, could have some pirate factions or maybe even feature the caribbean as well. I feel like the Midwest would be a cool setting too

    • @nickm5419
      @nickm5419 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@BobLoblaw223the deep south, like In the Heat of the Night. The television series,not the movie.

    • @Grey_Shard
      @Grey_Shard 2 месяца назад +1

      as many crazy things going on in Florida, after the bombs they'd be even more so.

    • @TaeringYT
      @TaeringYT 2 месяца назад +2

      well at least you guys got GTA 6 for florida now

    • @Injester_The_Inverted_Jester
      @Injester_The_Inverted_Jester 2 месяца назад

      @@BobLoblaw223i agree with a lot of that, but not the gatorclaws. Those guys were from a cloning machine in Nuka-World from spliced DNA. I don’t think it’ll fit, because of it’s lore. (Unless a gatorclaw escaped the sole survivor and made it to Florida.)

  • @owenpape4042
    @owenpape4042 2 месяца назад +10

    I know no one will read this but a couple years back I’m pretty sure that Bethesda trade marked the name Fallout New Orleans which I think would be a great setting for a next fallout game and really get Bethesda to just go out in a different direction and just try and do something new with out trying to piggyback off of other pieces of lore.

    • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
      @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 месяца назад +1

      Enough with the U.S. already. Do Canada for Fallout 5!

    • @kims4149
      @kims4149 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Swordslinger-hb1ns In the Fallout universe Canada IS in the US

    • @odinulveson9101
      @odinulveson9101 2 месяца назад +1

      Yup Canada got annexed.

    • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
      @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kims4149 I’m well aware of this. That’s why I want Bethesda to go there. It has limitless possibilities. French Canadian ghouls,rad Caribou/elk,polar yao guai,Inuit vault dwellers,raiders wielding spiked hockey sticks, and probably more than that.

    • @alexbobincheck1130
      @alexbobincheck1130 2 месяца назад

      @@Swordslinger-hb1nsthis sounds like a bad reskin mod 😂💀

  • @eneteachedos
    @eneteachedos 2 месяца назад +55

    You've been doing this for years and you never know what's going on 😂

  • @shahoul1
    @shahoul1 2 месяца назад +30

    I laugued when he said "very close, just a 4 hour drive" and "only 5 hours south of SF". America really is an Alien nation.

    • @ThePlayer920
      @ThePlayer920 2 месяца назад +4

      Not to mention that working vehicles are extremely rare in Fallout

    • @RobotWithHumanHair.
      @RobotWithHumanHair. 2 месяца назад +7

      Nah we’re just really fucking big most nations can’t compare to our size.

    • @alexbobincheck1130
      @alexbobincheck1130 2 месяца назад +2

      5 hours was also a bit low, it’s more like 6-7 😂

    • @Gilhelmi
      @Gilhelmi Месяц назад +2

      ​@@alexbobincheck1130I assume that there is less traffic. So it might actually be 4 hours. 😅

    • @alexbobincheck1130
      @alexbobincheck1130 Месяц назад +2

      @@Gilhelmi ya know that is fair, I’ve never once done the drive without hitting at least a little traffic so I didn’t quite think of that 😂

  • @mofantafa
    @mofantafa 2 месяца назад +4

    Fallout 4 also had a ghoul Chinese submariner you could do quests for.

  • @ClinkClankClonk
    @ClinkClankClonk 2 месяца назад

    Random but the “hey did you know I’m a chef now” took me longer than I’d like to realize that it was an ad 😂

  • @kabosustan2484
    @kabosustan2484 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm a game developer currently in the industry, trust me, a 1 page design document is not where you sort out the major factions, a rough outline of the story etc. A 1 page design document is where you start to talk about designing a game, things like setting, mechanics all that stuff is in a idea form. "We should set it in london so that the game world stands out from pereviouse titles," on the 1 page design doc might lead them to setting the game in africa or australia and the london aspect might be forgotten, or maybe they become confident in the radical new design direction and need to bring it back to a more fimilure eastern US so that the game still feels like fallout and the main thing on the 1 page ends up irevelent 1 month into development.

    • @scobra5941
      @scobra5941 17 дней назад

      Hope you don't write text for your studio, your spelling is laughable.

  • @josephrosa5448
    @josephrosa5448 2 месяца назад +7

    Would love to know more about that next gen update lol

  • @davidgaze4181
    @davidgaze4181 2 месяца назад +6

    You will get fallout 5, start it up and will get a load screen. And that will be it. It's just going to be a load screen. You get to watch it for 500 hours, and then say "Yep, I've played Fallout 5"

    • @rickmccl71
      @rickmccl71 2 месяца назад

      Which ending did you get

    • @davidgaze4181
      @davidgaze4181 2 месяца назад

      @@rickmccl71The Load Screen Ending.

  • @andoy_
    @andoy_ Месяц назад

    5:19 the prydwen is literally in the show rendering the institute and railroad endings non-canon

  • @KristoferBurns
    @KristoferBurns 2 месяца назад +1

    I hope the next fallout we can choose which type of character like a human, ghoul, super mutant, even a synth would be cool or automatron

  • @tilfofficial1780
    @tilfofficial1780 2 месяца назад +4

    Every 2 weeks you make this video , they are working on ES6, fallout 5 is after that nothing is going on with fallout 5.

  • @TraktorTarzan
    @TraktorTarzan 2 месяца назад +4

    While waiting for Fallout 5 Try Fallout London that releases in 1 month. it looks to be the best fallout game yet, and its not made by bethesda🤣

  • @terinot7143
    @terinot7143 2 месяца назад

    Hi! Just wanted to ask what mod is the revolver that appears in this video for example at 10:05? Thanks guys!

    • @joshualap401
      @joshualap401 2 месяца назад

      I don't know what the mod is but it looks like a quite normal .44 magnum revolver so maybe if you search for something like that you will find it.

  • @Myserieden
    @Myserieden 2 месяца назад +1

    I would be cool if they did a regional based Fallout game. As in the main games are East and West coast stories. With an over all big story, while the side game would start with one region like New Orleans, and can expand to other regions, like NYC, etc.

  • @DontSweatTheKid
    @DontSweatTheKid 2 месяца назад +60

    After fallout 4,76 and star field I’m thinking I don’t want a fallout 5 just give us a “Remaster” not “Remake” of fallout 3- new Vegas, morrowind and oblivion fairly certain that will produce world peace

    • @Ifyoureadthusyouarelame
      @Ifyoureadthusyouarelame 2 месяца назад +6

      I agree fnv would be sick with a remaster and add some new long dlcs to it add better gameplay and quality

    • @DontSweatTheKid
      @DontSweatTheKid 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Ifyoureadthusyouarelame yeah they can finally add that 100 foot tall gecko

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@DontSweatTheKidGod no.

    • @bookbinder66
      @bookbinder66 2 месяца назад +1

      Skywind is coming

    • @250914616672152
      @250914616672152 2 месяца назад +4

      @@Skiritaigod no, godzilla yes

  • @thenapalmbrothershq5585
    @thenapalmbrothershq5585 2 месяца назад +6

    Bethesda HQ is the institute.

  • @SunBear-kh2td
    @SunBear-kh2td 2 месяца назад +2

    Would be interesting for Fallout 5 to be set earlier in the timeline so you can meet a younger Kellogg.

  • @cosmicknight2171
    @cosmicknight2171 2 месяца назад

    I’ve been hoping to see a diamond city like location on the Golden Gate Bridge for years now

  • @sparkslegends7482
    @sparkslegends7482 2 месяца назад +5

    Take a drink every time he says Fallout 5. I’m joking don’t do that.

  • @ruandemeneses9513
    @ruandemeneses9513 2 месяца назад +4

    Starfield broke me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @offlineraided
    @offlineraided 2 месяца назад +1

    Fallout and Elder Scrolls dont take place on the same world but both games have time travel and dimensional travel. In Fallout there is multiple instances where scientists experiment with dimensional travel which results in Nirn root appearing in the wasteland in Fallout 4

  • @Ariadna-116
    @Ariadna-116 2 месяца назад

    Mr Juicehead, ive got a quick question... uh... how do you get your mods? And if im think its Nexusmods how do you get them to work? Whenever i have mods from nexus plugged into fallout they dont load at all.
    Just curious, thanks.

    • @UltimateGamerCC
      @UltimateGamerCC 2 месяца назад

      firstly i do not recommend you use the Nexus as anything more than a database to hop into. you want to download Mod Organizer 2, it's a Skyrim Mod Organizer but it also works wonders with Fallout New Vegas modding. as for modding Fallout 4, i couldnt tell you how to get into that one, Fallout 3 modding is kinda pointless when New Vegas and A Tale of Two Wastelands makes modding 3 obsolete.

    • @Ariadna-116
      @Ariadna-116 2 месяца назад

      @@UltimateGamerCC oh okay thanks tho

  • @skoog7091
    @skoog7091 2 месяца назад +15

    I think it’s weird that they don’t release a fallout game at the same time as the tv show.

    • @alaric_
      @alaric_ 2 месяца назад +5

      Starfield -> The Elder Scrolls -> Fallout 5 plan was locked years ago, way before any talks of the TV-show became reality. Simply no time to make a whole new game.

  • @EC___
    @EC___ 2 месяца назад +21

    That will be so underwhelming if it's actually San Francisco... There are so many better locations

    • @twentysecondnomad8177
      @twentysecondnomad8177 2 месяца назад +1

      i mean SF has a lot of big city structures to use and create dungeons out of, there are four factions probably present, the BOS bunker, the NCR at the border, the Ski themselves with kung fu schools, and the scientologists, whoops meant hubbys
      thats four major factions just like F04. it would be a center for technological devolopment and military presence just like DC because its west coast and pacific theatre/chinese front, i bet they will write in a lot of pre war ghoul chinese infiltrator characters still alive or something

    • @adzappin_2567
      @adzappin_2567 2 месяца назад

      name 1

  • @AkeenFreysAndracos
    @AkeenFreysAndracos 2 месяца назад

    9:10 if a certain point you hear "scott mackenzie" you will know it :D but im not sure it would have this song, since is a music from after 50s
    they could use as a turism spot "come to San Francisco" :D

  • @Sylvaard
    @Sylvaard 2 месяца назад +1

    I want a fallout set in london where vault-tec wasn't available so people end up turning the london underground into a giant make-shift vault system. (Or shortly before the bombs dropped another company stepped in and quickly made their own vaults down there) It would be cool because I am pretty sure the tunnels were used for shelter in WW2 so it would make sense for them to be used again.
    EDIT: Obviously the big london mod is coming for fallout 4 but I want it to be made official lol.

  • @cecarter10
    @cecarter10 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm still hoping a remaster (not remakle) of Fallout 3/New Vegas happens.

  • @billwhite1603
    @billwhite1603 2 месяца назад +8

    It will be difficult to tell the difference between nuclear war San Francisco, and current San Francisco.

    • @macairhead5137
      @macairhead5137 2 месяца назад

      Those feral ghouls are really out of control

  • @420MrReefer
    @420MrReefer 2 месяца назад +1

    My theroy Todd got excited about fallout again whilst making the showing and is like I kinda wanna make fallout 5 now

  • @grungyrogue
    @grungyrogue 2 месяца назад

    7:00 that board is freakin out man!

  • @brockschannel3927
    @brockschannel3927 2 месяца назад +4

    I think it would be cool if we go to either the NCR or Chicago.

    • @justinbellpa
      @justinbellpa 2 месяца назад

      Tactics was in Chicago

    • @brockschannel3927
      @brockschannel3927 2 месяца назад +1

      @@justinbellpa yeah,but since tactics isn't fully canon, Bethesda can do their own spin on it. Though I know some people won't like that,as it will definitely include the brotherhood, enclave, and super mutants.

    • @justinbellpa
      @justinbellpa 2 месяца назад

      @@brockschannel3927 how can it be partly canon?

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@justinbellpaWe know the Chicago chapter of the Brotherhood exists but we don't know what they've been doing.

    • @brockschannel3927
      @brockschannel3927 2 месяца назад +2

      @@justinbellpa Bethesda claims that it isn't canon,but they reference it in 3 and 4. So,the only canon aspect of tactics is that there was a brotherhood of steel chapter that used airships to pursue the remnants of the Master's army, and that they gone rogue when they ended up in Chicago. As far as we know,the Calculator and various factions in tactics aren't canon.

  • @Hououin_Kyouma
    @Hououin_Kyouma 2 месяца назад +5

    Give it to Obsidian, they should make a new Fallout

    • @kristinagraversgaard5328
      @kristinagraversgaard5328 2 месяца назад +1

      They absolutely should not. They have done worse in making RPGs than Bethesda has. Obsidian hasn't made a good open world action-RPG in a decade. If the Outer Worlds 2 is a good game, then maybe.

  • @DuneRunnerEnterprises
    @DuneRunnerEnterprises 2 месяца назад +1

    I've got my 2cents.
    Remember, there's always 2 main components.
    Vault -Tek,and FEV.
    Now, Vaults were built in some strange places.
    But almost always,where they were accessible to a people!!
    FEV, otherwise.
    Think of the FEV locations!
    So ,no rural America for a Vault placement,but some rocky terrain is a must .

  • @xXWyTeBreaDXx
    @xXWyTeBreaDXx 2 месяца назад +1

    “Short while later” = “15 years from now”

  • @jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox
    @jacksonbarkerthebluehairedfox 2 месяца назад +4

    It'd be pretty interesting to see a Fallout game that spans over multiple states. They could do this in the Midwest with states like Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Louisiana. It'd even be pretty interesting if they improved upon the weather systems to include more severe weathers like Rad Tornadoes.

    • @alexbobincheck1130
      @alexbobincheck1130 2 месяца назад

      I just don’t see how it would be possible to travel that far efficiently or effectively without car transportation. Not even horse would make a multi state option super viable

    • @alexbobincheck1130
      @alexbobincheck1130 2 месяца назад

      But of individual states those would all be fun, especially the tornados

  • @EthNet34756
    @EthNet34756 2 месяца назад +5

    Its being developed 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @BabySniff
      @BabySniff 2 месяца назад +1

      You'll be old b4 it coms out

    • @rickmccl71
      @rickmccl71 2 месяца назад

      @@BabySniff we are already old

  • @cidspider
    @cidspider 2 месяца назад +1

    In 20 years we’ll be living in fucking fallout

  • @clientofficial
    @clientofficial 2 месяца назад

    What mic do you have?

  • @dominicsc9225
    @dominicsc9225 2 месяца назад +3

    The concrete wall behind the door at 11:55 so goofy Bethesda😂😂

  • @mr.schrodinger
    @mr.schrodinger 2 месяца назад +9

    I agree, Fallout likely won't be in New York especially since today's 76 update features dialogue saying "The Big Apple is a Big Crater".

    • @RobotWithHumanHair.
      @RobotWithHumanHair. 2 месяца назад +1

      Wait what who says that?

    • @mr.schrodinger
      @mr.schrodinger 2 месяца назад

      @@RobotWithHumanHair. It's passive dialogue from the new singer mom lady and the new Civil Engineer people

    • @amannamedsquid313
      @amannamedsquid313 2 месяца назад +2

      To be fair, Washington D.C is also a bit of a crater.

  • @cheesemonker6950
    @cheesemonker6950 2 месяца назад

    What revolver mod is that?

  • @guy_autordie
    @guy_autordie 2 месяца назад +1

    If the nukaworld's hubologists are a hint for FO5, they have more than one page doc on the game.

  • @RAWBOT301
    @RAWBOT301 2 месяца назад +21

    I dont trust bethesda to make good games anymore.

    • @jontmusic5760
      @jontmusic5760 Месяц назад +1

      Why? Everything that Bethesda has released in the last 30 years has been a commercial success. Objectively everything they’ve released is very positively received. Fallout 76 was the only questionable one and many updates later ALOT of people like it now. I just don’t think they’ve done enough to ruin anyone’s trust lol. Long live Bethesda

    • @RAWBOT301
      @RAWBOT301 Месяц назад +1

      @@jontmusic5760 I have thousands of hours in FO3, FNV, FO4, elder scrolls and I couldnt find any way to have fun in FO76 or starfield. Their games over time have become prettier but have fallen off in every other category.

    • @jontmusic5760
      @jontmusic5760 Месяц назад

      @@RAWBOT301 I’ll agree with that starfield was definitely a disappointment. Anytime I think of Bethesda, starfield is not the game to come to mind. I haven’t lost faith yet. They seem to run into trouble when they try to anything that breaks away from their original formula. I like what they did with 76 personally, but only after 18 updates. But I can also understand they aren’t gonna dump resources and all their marbles into starfield cuz it’s a brand new IP. 76 there really was no excuse. It’s just really hard to make an mmo fps rpg without any npcs or much to do. I like 76 for selfish reasons tho. I’m huge into the fallout world and that’s one thing that 76 did right and that was expanding the lore and story. Beyond that you are absolutely correct!

    • @jontmusic5760
      @jontmusic5760 Месяц назад

      Ngl bro u chillin😎 as soon as I disagreed I expected nuclear fallout (no pun intended)

  • @90snetworkproductions79
    @90snetworkproductions79 2 месяца назад +4

    Strike One: Elder Scrolls *“Blades,”*
    Strike Two: *Fallout 76*
    Strike Three: *Starfield*
    *[GAME OVER]*

    • @user-qg4zb6jt9s
      @user-qg4zb6jt9s 2 месяца назад

      Remove strike two they're still in the game

  • @COALROLIN
    @COALROLIN 2 месяца назад

    What mods are used in the background gameplay plz 😊

  • @SuperFlaminninja
    @SuperFlaminninja 2 месяца назад

    I’ve wondered if the “fallout 5” in question could be another obsidian fallout since and it’s just being referred to as “fallout 5”

  • @drakodarth5706
    @drakodarth5706 2 месяца назад +4

    Bethesda needs to leave the West Coast alone and let obsidian have that.

  • @lolk4530
    @lolk4530 2 месяца назад +4

    FO5 in san fran would be a massive dissapointment. There are so many other places in the US, all of them explored, that are more interesting. Plus, if you want to see what a post-apocalyptic San Francisco would look like, just go to modern-day San Francisco.

  • @UltimateGamerCC
    @UltimateGamerCC 2 месяца назад +1

    Todd: "it'll be sometime after Elder Scrolls 6."
    Me: i have a feeling i'm gonna be as old as Shaun before i see that day come... oh well, back to Fallout NV and my insane mod list...

  • @ant8779
    @ant8779 2 месяца назад

    being from the bay area this would be dope there’s so many different landscapes and environments around here and there’s so much history

  • @SynthLizard8
    @SynthLizard8 2 месяца назад +3

    I don't even understand why it even takes 10 years to make, where does the quality go? with Red Dead Redemption 2 or GTA5, you absolutely see the quality, every mechanic in those games are top notch but with Bethesda, it's not like they've learned anything or from anyone other then being wholly reliant on the modders for ideas and fixes.
    Even with Starfield there's absolutely nothing compelling or identifiable to that universe and even the updates come out at a sluggish pace.

  • @klaesegret75
    @klaesegret75 2 месяца назад +7

    Nothings going on with FO5. Bethesda is still trying to make Starfield.

  • @evilgenius97
    @evilgenius97 2 месяца назад +1

    I think the show will be around Fallout 1 or 2 in the timeline, the California flag had 1 head and the armor wasnt marked yet

  • @jamiecuthbert1269
    @jamiecuthbert1269 2 месяца назад +1

    So wait... The airship isn't the prydwin in the tv show? I thought it was, making one ending from fallout 4 moot.

  • @breakinmedia
    @breakinmedia 2 месяца назад +5

    Only 6 more years 🤣 we'll probably all be living in our own Fallout Universe by then

  • @alex57x28
    @alex57x28 2 месяца назад +5

    Known LIAR Todd Howard said...

  • @bullseyebob47
    @bullseyebob47 2 месяца назад +2

    i wish them luck with es 6 and fo 5 but im more focused on obsidian and avowed/outer worlds 2 cause i think there is a chance they may release games in a reasonable time and i love outer worlds, on my 4th play.

  • @tboon9399
    @tboon9399 2 месяца назад +1

    Two locations i would like to see, either california (with NCR and Brotherhood taking centre stage and seeing the return of the Enclave) or NEW VEGAS

  • @detestthehero
    @detestthehero 2 месяца назад +10

    Bethesda could never make a game again and I would be satisfied.

  • @u.n.reviews7359
    @u.n.reviews7359 2 месяца назад +3

    As long as emil paggo is fired it will be better then fallout 4

    • @aaronlaughter6471
      @aaronlaughter6471 2 месяца назад

      I mean he isn't at Obsidian, and Outer worlds was boring.

    • @u.n.reviews7359
      @u.n.reviews7359 2 месяца назад

      @@aaronlaughter6471 is oblivion going to involved? I mean they are washed up but boring is better than starfield

  • @rustynaill5715
    @rustynaill5715 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the video telling everyone Fallout 5 is not coming out anyone anytime soon. I was actually hoping that the great news was that Bethesda had finally decided to give the ISP to someone that would do it justice, instead of jacking the fans around.

  • @celestial_blade
    @celestial_blade 2 месяца назад +1

    My dad is a massive Elder Scrolls and Fallout fan. He and I have literally BONDED over these games. He's in his mid, pushing late 60's. At the rate things are going, I'm so scared he won't live long enough to see TES 6 or Fallout 5.

    • @toasterenthusiast6188
      @toasterenthusiast6188 2 месяца назад

      Dude I'm sure your dad isn't just gonna randomly croke in his 60s unless he is severely ill

  • @Kat1kafka
    @Kat1kafka 2 месяца назад +4

    After the Starfield disaster and their involvement with sweet baby inc.,I have little or no hope for this game. Same goes for elder scrolls.

  • @user-pg5sz2vn1w
    @user-pg5sz2vn1w 2 месяца назад +10

    i mean does anyone even care at this point? if starfield is anything to go off es6 and fo5 are gonna be massive disappointments.

    • @innocentbystander1993
      @innocentbystander1993 2 месяца назад +3

      it's been nothing but disappointment since Skyrim

    • @GrievousReborn
      @GrievousReborn 2 месяца назад +4

      Yes just because you don't care for Starfield doesn't mean there aren't people that do

    • @justinbellpa
      @justinbellpa 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@GrievousReborna minority actually do. Ppl aren't really playing it and it's fallen off

    • @stringermcconker3753
      @stringermcconker3753 2 месяца назад +4

      I think Fallout 5 and ES6 can fix some of Starfield's problems like exploration and world environments. But things like writing, for me personally, are issues that will definitely need the biggest overhauls.

    • @charlieb308
      @charlieb308 2 месяца назад +1

      ES6 will be great, space is just boring and empty. They should have added halo type aliens

  • @The-three-eyed-Prophet
    @The-three-eyed-Prophet 2 месяца назад +2

    i bet bethesda will have to work on fallout 5 if they see how many fans will play the fallout london mod that releases very close to the fallout show ...

  • @zakkblack5024
    @zakkblack5024 2 месяца назад

    It'll be awhile. They're doing a Blade game, they just possibly secured Star Wars IP of sorts, and they're working on the new Elder Scrolls

  • @HoverDoog
    @HoverDoog 2 месяца назад +14

    10-15 years between titles is a dead franchise.

    • @TastesLikeColor
      @TastesLikeColor 2 месяца назад +4

      eh but gta is a live franchise still and it’s been what, 12 years

    • @Joey381999
      @Joey381999 2 месяца назад +1

      Helldivers 2 came out over 10 years later too

    • @elijahreischl2963
      @elijahreischl2963 2 месяца назад +1

      You'll buy it

    • @ClassifiedKiller20
      @ClassifiedKiller20 2 месяца назад +2

      Tell that to GTA

    • @HoverDoog
      @HoverDoog 2 месяца назад

      @@ClassifiedKiller20 it WILL be mediocre, calling it.

  • @Flynn_Stones
    @Flynn_Stones 2 месяца назад +1

    Something to look forward to in a decade

  • @edwinbetancourt3958
    @edwinbetancourt3958 2 месяца назад +1

    The tv show is going to be resetting canon moving forward I'm guessing. It's no surprise that the BOS is pushed heavily as it's the most marketable faction money wise. Expect power armor skins galore for sale and this face opening thingy to play a part in power armor sales as well as the Iron Man thrusting knock off shown in the show.

  • @nickmcadams6476
    @nickmcadams6476 2 месяца назад +1

    I swear that the minutemen ending was Canon, it saves the Railroad AND the Brotherhood so all factions Except for the Institute are still explorable and interactable

  • @Swordslinger-hb1ns
    @Swordslinger-hb1ns 2 месяца назад +1

    Outsourcing Juice buice. That’s how we’re going to get the next mainline entry in the Fallout series. It doesn’t have to be programmed by Todd Howard and Bethesda Game Studios. Like Fallout New Vegas for example.

  • @andyb2260
    @andyb2260 2 месяца назад +1

    And just think of it, Bethesda could just go to San Francisco and take video of the city. It's already like a wasteland so they don't have to do much to make it look like SF is destroyed.

  • @Kellett781
    @Kellett781 2 месяца назад +1

    I don’t see Bathesda ever making a Starfield 2, honestly. They are going to try and shore up the games fans and attract new ones with DLC and content upgrades.

    • @PaulusAlone
      @PaulusAlone 2 месяца назад

      Yup! Agreed! Starfield is a big miss and they NEED a hit in the next couple years or it’s over for the studio.
      Starfield will have to be put in stasis for at least a decade.

  • @Questionthis1
    @Questionthis1 Месяц назад

    Every new fallout game introduces a new setting with new tone and world building. 3 gave us what was essentially a barren wasteland set in the capital, then New Vegas gave us the western theme, then 4 gave us a bit more of a pre war Americana theme, then 76 was more of the wilderness. I think 5, wherever it is set, needs to explore a new genre and setting. For that reason I think it would be great to see it set in either southern Florida by the ocean, New Orleans bayou, or someplace tropical like Hawaii.

  • @delvinciposterkid
    @delvinciposterkid 2 месяца назад +2

    Fallout 5 might be waiting for the Fallout show series so a lore tie-in might be in mind.

  • @hudson_powell
    @hudson_powell 2 месяца назад +2

    I'd love to see a Fallout game set in Toronto, or 'Ronto' as it's called in the Pitt. Sounds super interesting, and I'd love to see an apocalyptic take on my hometown!

    • @duncanmc797
      @duncanmc797 2 месяца назад

      Nah bro look at all the Bethesda fallouts, I'm Canadian too but Americana and American ideals are like a core part of 3, 4 and 76.

  • @OhNoTheFace
    @OhNoTheFace Месяц назад

    I hope if they keep going with west coast they keep remembering the early games for some story stuff