Wouldn't you be able to say, "What's done is done," about a week out from your child disappearing? Wouldn't you only feel guilty about what happened for just a few days, like them? Anyway, yeah, they are a strange duo, no doubt about it. I think if I lost a beloved pet, I'd show more concern than them -- and at least if a pet ends up with a stranger, they are probably feeding it and looking to bring it back, and not torturing it or worse.
I read Amaral's "A Verdade da Mentira" (The Truth of the Lie) and, at the time, watched many of the interviews he was asked to participate in. After being fired, insulted, humiliated for years, and put through pure hell, I was very happy to hear that Amaral was finally, and rightfully, vindicated. Thanks, Nick, for not giving up on this case...yet!
the arrogance of these parents is appalling. the fact they brought Scotland yard to Portugal to investigate the disappearance of Maddie says volumes. They tried very hard to control the media and the investigation to this day. In my opinion they are blaming everyone and their cousin for the disappearance of Maddie. I think it was an accident none of the less they are guilty of killing their own child
He did a far better job in the circumstances than the cover-up "investigation" by the British police. He was absolutely in the right to have considered the parents alongside everyone else, as is done in every other missing person/murder case. Yet he's been thoroughly trashed for it. Shameful.
At the end of the day, a beautiful little girl is missing, presumed dead, and nobody is giving up any answers. She deserves some honesty. It will probably be one of those unsolved child abduction cases, and we may never know the truth. Certainly someone would be very satisfied if it was just a forgotten cold case. It really deserves to be kept open, and fresh reviews made regularly. And this series is doing a good job in seperating the chaff.
The only time I ever saw these two looking absolutely distraught was when they lost the court case against this man. They both looked bereft and yet they never looked like this in 2007. 😢
To raise those crazy amounts of charity money based on the fabricated story of "abduction" and use it as their own; spend it to pay back their mortage and to beat Amaral in the legal battle, it's a HUGE embezzlement crime and they should definetely face charges and be convicted. Plus all the other crimes committed by them of course.
It's just an ploy to close this case, a deep state ploy to close this case use brockner as a fall guy and let's two guilty parents off. They have never acted as normal parents, look at the case of Ben Needham who went missing in kos, he was never found either, why did they not get millions from UK gov for funding and support like they have had from Blair and brown.
I would have hired the best missing children agency in the world, with back up from a Portuguese one, not a two person operation specialised in fraud in Spain, which speaks a different language, but maybe that's just me.
They should of had their kids taken off them when they came back too UK if they werent doctors and normal citizens then child protection services would of taken the kids away!
I have often wondered why no charges for at least child neglect, or abandonment. They left all of their children alone in a foreign country. Comes across as selfish.
Don't remember normal citizens suing people for having alternative opinions either....they seemed to be more bothered about public opinion than actually looking for their "missing" child.
That should be the huge mistake they made, to leave the kids alone. They should have been fined for " neglect" but they got special protection from the British investigation team. It pays to be " connected".....They certainly are.
I don't believe they did. That was all made up. A diversionary tactic. What if Madeleine died BEFORE that night? They made up this abduction nonsense to cover themselves.
Well, they claimed, among other things, that: (A) The resort seemed super-safe, and vacationing in general is super-safe; (B) Partying at the tapas bar was equivalent to being in the backyard or garden of a house whilst the children slept just inside; and (C) They'd developed, along with their friends, a system for checking up on the children that was almost as good as being with them the whole time. No doubt they also compressed the time they were away, and downplayed the extent of their drinking. So these people seem pretty good at excusing themselves, both as events happen, and afterwards -- and seem much different, psychologically, than most normal parents with normal empathy and guilt.
In a statement Gerry said, he had messages from thousands of parents who often leave their young children and go out dining & drinking, sorry Gerry that's a complete fabrication, as a doctor to make such a outlandish statement is verging on madness perhaps lunacy. R.
I very much appreciate your intent to NOT sensationalize criminality. Your efforts to provide "just the facts, mam" goes a long way toward encouraging the viewer/listener to analyze, to think rationally and clearly. And when you do offer an analysis, it is yours and yours alone, and you provide your thought processes on your journey to it.
If she did indeed die that night, it would be quite a feat to hide her body in a short period of time. Running around looking for a spot? They must have known that there would be searching and dogs would be used, that they wouldnt be taken at their word. And that they would be watched once the incident was reported. Their friends too. Did it happen earlier, a different day, giving them time to look for a hiding spot? Were they looking for one while on their, "jogs?" I also dont get asking their friends to get involved. !!!!! Covering up a death?? Finally, why not just report the accident? Was it an accident? Did she have injuries that would be determined to be intentional? If your kid has an accident and dies, wouldnt you be screaming and blind with hysteria? How were they able to contain their anguish? Not scream their lungs out? They saw she was dead and thought, "we gotta hide her?" Its so callous, creepy and bizarre. And dismissive and disrespectful of their daughter.
As a parent, I would NEVER leave my sleeping child all alone while I go party. Imagine waking up as a very young girl and your parents are no where to be found, that's when things start to go wrong!
She Possibly died a day or two before the night that everyone told! There is no evidence of her being alive the day she was supposedly abducted, forged signatures on day club that day and no footage of her that day! As for not reporting a tragic accident if thats how she died, ask why, was she drugged so she would sleep through the night, or is there more of a disturbing reason why and there is no way parents would want a post mortem as it would reveal something else, ie abuse or SA for example! Im not saying this is why but if it was just an accident and parents were not there then yes they liable for neglect but surely you would have to take the fact and live with the guilt! MM died in apartment and dogs alerted to this, MM was moved by car at somepoint and cremated at near by church late one evening, she will never be found and those involved know this, the question is, why would if an accident, this be covered up, if an accident? No evidence of an abduction, but evidence of death, massive attempt to convince public of abduction by Mainstream media and government! Sorry but based on evidence available there was no abduction, so why so many high profile people involved and why were portugese police taken off case and have to take orders from uk authorities? Something not right at all
There are still strange stories leaking around the murder of this child. That death may not have been a total surprise, as certain types of behavior by a fairly large group of people, is full of unexpected tragedies. Another case that will not likely ever be solved, but should have been, years ago. The child went some 26 times to her pediatrician for bladder issues. Hello ! that is a flag for sexual abuse. Also one the kids ( which one ?) was smearing feces on the walls ; another sign of abuse..What sort of parent parades a little girl, making her look like a grown up, performing in Vegas, as a show girl ? Who does that ? It is warped. No wonder, she would normally wet the bed. These people would not get the parents of the year award !
I was not convinced of their guilt by anything else other than their interviews. Kate was very cold as a mother with a missing child. I would have been devastated.
Who leaves young children unattended ? Then doesn’t get charged for neglect ! Shocking they had everything to do with Madeline’s disappearance and death I believe
Hey Nick. I remember watching a very short video clip taken by one of the McCann's travel buddies. It seems to have been taken on an airport transport shuttle. Gerry makes a strange comment. Can't remember what someone said to him, but his answer was something like "I'm not here to enjoy myself" or something similar. He said it with a serious expression on his face and his body language looked really tense.
I'm pleased you brought that up because even though I tend to believe she died accidently - I don't recall there ever being an explanation for that comment. I understand going on holiday with 3 v young children might be stressful at times - but it's not even as though they spent much time with the children. My understanding is the children spent most of their days on the complex's day care facilties - then possibly drugged at night.
We know Maddie was a poor sleeper who wandered at night. There was a star chart for nights she stayed in her own bed. She woke one night, she questioned being alone. we have only the parents word for it being the night before she was missed. The parents are drs with access and knowledge of sedation. I think it was normal both at home and on holiday to use sedation. One night possibly earlier in the week the dose was increased to ensure her not waking, but she did wake, dopey and unsteady she fell from the back of the sofa either head injury or positional affixation, died, bled from small wound. I think that all the tapas parents were sedating their kids, and that is why they colluded in hiding the body, and covering up supporting the kidnap theory all had a great deal to lose if there was an investigation of an accidental overdose. Did the body itself have to be in the car? Are the dogs able to tell if items which had been close to the body were carried in the car in the same way the hit on the toy and Kate's clothing? A tragic accident, covered up by parents scared to lose the twins and , careers, .who were faced with an option and people willing to support them for self interest. Once on that road they had to stay on it
Wow. It would be chilling if you've nailed how it exactly went down, since you seem to have explained almost everything. As for the road the parents have had to travel, no doubt at the time of the incident they reasonably figured, as the parents of JonBenet had done before them, that the storm would blow over fairly quickly, eventually leaving them alone to deal with the aftermath, & allowing them to consign the entire matter of their daughter's existence to a dusty photo album left on a shelf, pulled out at most once a year, for decorum's sake. Instead, the story caught fire around the world and they've been forced to tell a thousand lies, on TV, in books, and in person. I'm sure that by now, even once they reach their deathbed and the need to dissemble is past, they won't change a single note of their tune. It's a song of how bad luck came to them, how the system let them down, and how they've bravely carried on, in spite of being unjustly accused and suffering a tragic loss.
This was easy to figure out. Accident coverup. Don't leave your babies alone to have dinner with friends not so nearby. They wanted to have fun at their children's expense IMO.
Why did Gordon Brown travel to Portugal supporting the Mccanns? Many children go missing every year, but have not seen him go to their rescue, which is quite puzzling.
Gordon Brown is a freemason and the president of the Lodge which Gerry belonged too. Freemasons are notoriously secret and always protect their own brothers in the lodge. Thats what all freemason do and why the then prime minister was able to close down the Portuguese investigation to protect Gerry
It’s my theory that the McCans deliberately let one of their friends check on the children that night so that they could raise the alarm when Maddie wasn’t there, however i dont think he went in the room, he just listened and came back to the restaurant and said it was all quiet
About 20 years ago,a friend told me "we are the most corrupt nation on earth" We are English,I told him theres far more corrupt country's than us.about a year ago I told him he was correct.Its done intelligently but increasingly more blatant.
I know this might be far fetched but when was the last time after getting off the plane was she actually seen in person by someone other than the group? How can 7 people keep the secret for so long? Someone is always the weakest link and cracks first regardless of any money or blackmail involved.
When they are all in the deep state club, not just the maccans but the tapas 7 too, their conversations to each other were noted as too familiar, they not once broke the line or got angry with leaving 3 babies alone and vulnerable in that flat, even told maddie had cried for her parents whilst they were out and they still carried on leaving them, medicating them, refusing the babysitting service, doors and windows unlocked. How many alarm bells need to go off before you twig they are guilty. But the final kicker for me was the mother writing in her book and stating in interview about maddies beautiful private parts, what the hell ?
Hello, well done on your investigative work. I was wondering how the twins are doing these days.....and what happened to the Tapas Seven. The McCanns would need to keep them onside. Interesting to see what the friendship status is now. Keep digging. Something will come of all this. Growing numbers of people following this and want to see Madeleine has 'justice'. The twins must have had many difficulties with such doubt and mystery hanging over their sister's disappearance. My thoughts are in accordance more or less with yours.
I have appreciated every episode you’ve put out of every case, this one is fascinated me and I didn’t know a ton of the details. The one thing that I still can’t get a grasp is when the body was moved and where, and the dogs hitting on the car it sounds like happened Several weeks or a month later can you direct me to one of your episodes that might explain any of this and or make a new one that addresses some of these questions? Much appreciation…
I think the idea is that, after she died, she was taken not far away and hidden. This spot was considered good, but not perfect -- especially since the incident had blown up into an international story. So later on, with the help of the car and some more creative thinking, it was moved to a better spot or destroyed.
@@ruthx3346 Ah, good question, now that you've made me think about it. I guess if you had just one, you might miss the action, or you could hit the jackpot and see someone carrying away the little lass. Still, anything's better than the near total blank described by the Portuguese.
There is a theory that her body was eventually hidden in a fridge in a villa the McCanns moved into. It was at that villa that they had to leave the car boot open to clear the smell. One of the reasons fir the fridge theory, is that the McCanns replaced the fridge themselves at some point, (saying it was faulty), instead of asking the landlord to replace it. I don't think anyone knows where the body was kept prior to moving into the villa. It was said that a Catholic priest the couple went to see had some sort of breakdown due to being traumatised by what he learnt. Some people think he may have helped hide the body for a while because he took pity on their situation...but that story seemed to disappear.
I think the reason why the detective is saying he believes it was an accident is or was in hope that people in general would more likely feel easier about talking or interacting if they are not being suspected of anything deliberate or darker in nature I think that if it was simply an extremely unfortunate tragedy with good people with normal healthy lifestyles considering their occupations and occupations of their friends that just calling emergency services and telling them what happened would have been done they are healers doctor's life savers who would surely have character witnesses that would be able to put them beyond reproach and post mortem would collaborate this That's what makes an accident most unlikely to me If they and their friends were allowed to be looked into and cleared and their accounts of the 2 hours prior to the alarm being raised constantly changing makes it impossible to just accept an abduction or accident as answer If the road of enquiry that is always gone down as a matter of course is blocked off and deliberately entirely secured protected from investigation then WHY until that road is opened that road will always have people wanting to get access We don't have access all areas that is the problem
It gives me so much satisfaction that Amaral stayed strong, kept fighting in court, and won. I assume the McCanns paid the court judgment to Amaral from donated funds in the Maddie “Trust”.
The treatment of LC under police questioning was extremely fishy! Amaral was convicted by a Portuguese court, no less, and given a suspended sentence... the man is untrustworthy! And furthermore wanted to Kate McCann to accept a pathetic plea deal when he hadn't got a clue how Madeleine had disappeared... no wonder she rejected their offer and treated the PJ with the contempt they so rightly deserved!@@ruthx3346
Thank you for reading The information in this section. I am slowly losing my sight. I believe the parents are guilty. It could have been an accident, medication overdose. They are guilty of extreme neglect at the very least.
I was in Portugal at this time, or should I say we moved there a few weeks after the event…. What I’ve always found strange so the children disappear, but the McCann made a business out of their tragedy…. I think it’s important that all avenues in the investigation I looked at…. But there is a possibility that the child was dead, not murdered but overmedicated…. If this happened, the McCann would be in trouble, so you can see why the story has possibly developed. We know the possible time that the body could’ve been removed, and we have evidence that there was a dead body in the car and next to the child’s favourite toy.. both of these items were detected via cadaver dog… if we know the time and the mileage on the car. what is this not been calculated and the cadaver dog deployed in these areas to look for human remains…. did their upmost to the evidence of the cadaver dog and use public sympathy to organise this…. The police in question has a 100% positive identification on the bacterial smells that occur after death….
Thank you Nick However, please forgive, I did not KNOW poor little Madeleine, was missing for all those days,24, was it. Shocking Yet NO one was alerted to where she was 🤔 Another informative Vlogg ❤
"Cough"....Willie McRae, Jill Dando,Jo Cox,the Spy in the Bag,Charles de Menenez....the list is long,and you may think it's local cops,but in those cases,it's London running the show!
If they had come clean and said it was an accident. But then again why drug their kids. It was supposed to put in deep sleep. So they could socialize. They would be out of prison by now for manslaughter, child neglect, endangeriment. Just the fact the kids left alone and child taken. They are pretty much responsible. I don’t feel sorry for them. They got off scotfree for being irresponsible. No excuses, well child gone punishment enough. No it isn’t if they even accidentally killed their child. They won’t say a thing. They know what they did. I know they have other children, but they senselessly lost one because of stupidity. If they ever confess they should go to prison.
An interesting question is when was she last seen alive ? Credibly, independently alive. If you exclude any of the Tapas gang as witnesses to that then it would be the creche worker. Though some think there's issues there too in terms of independence.
Just my opinion: I believe they must have had to put her somewhere they were familiar with as they hadn't been there long... On their jogging route, there were a few holiday homes set back from the beach.. A lot of foreign places have fridges outside... these homes where holiday homes most vacant that time of year... might explain why they still went jogging.. Sat on a hill while the search went on that week... wasn't it reported that Jayne Tanner viewed some holiday lets places via a letting agency Robert ... May be how they found out what holiday homes where empty...
That is a very good point. They must have moved her several times. At least twice imo. 1) Gerry takes the body (and is seen by multiple people) to the initial hiding place almost immediately after Kate raises the alarm. Like you say, this was somewhere on or near the beach. Possibly an empty home with a fridge. Or even a cave with a dark interior, somewhere they jogged past every day. 2) A fridge in the rented villa they occupied after leaving the apartment. The interim hiding place until they could hire a car etc. 3) The final resting place (the ocean, a well) via the hire car. They were driving round in that car for miles every day looking for somewhere to dump her. Hence the huge mileage they did.
@hayleylongster4698 very good insights... so many things that point towards her dying in the apartment... wel leave no stone unturned.. yet totally dismissed the Dogs evidence the only possible physical evidence which may of lead to their daughter was a big give away for me... your on holiday your child goes missing so many people had access to her if innocent and the dogs found evidence you would want that looked at would you it would be hard to think but one of your friends may of hurt her or anyone really who knew the door was being left open... KM called the dog handler a wanker in her book imagine that someone trying to locate yoir child and in your head your calling him a wanker... they left that stone totally unturned....so sad all the people who were suppose to protect her let her down..🙏
They,ve got to be innocent as they met with the pope and received his blessing. Given his history with the protection of children no stronger endorsement could surely be found.
In the end, they are responsible for the missing child if only because they abandoned their daughter to get drunk with their friends. Living with that isn't punishment enough.
Well, it has to be as they have these twins to raise. They are still young and need their parents. They don't have any choice but to keep the status quo. Maybe in 20 years, they will come clean ? They may just come clean, as they are on their death bed. Every one would forgive them ! I am sure Maddie has, a long time ago. In the spirit world, the energy is powerful and Maddie is checking them out. She is OK. I bet she visits them, in their dreams.....
They are both doctors. They both know it's neglect to leave kids that young alone , especially in a foreign country . I think that Madeline must have been a problem child , and being that they were doctors didn't want to deal with her . They had two more newer babies to raise and didn't want the burden of Madeline's problems.
Regarding the carrying of the body anywhere around in that area at the time was difficult due to excavations this was for replacements of major sewers.
A bizarre contradiction in Jane Tanner's man with child statement. She says the man had lots of clothes on, heavy clothes and that she noticed that as odd because Brits abroad tend to dress lightly in shorts or cut offs (true). Next bit of statement - she describes seeing a child's unclad feet sticking out and thinking that's odd, that child will be cold, because actually it's quite a cold night, so cold that she herself is wearing a jumper. So which is it Jane, on this May night in Portugal ? Tropical or arctic?
Sorry, but just have to comment on the pronunciation...: 'nh' (as in 'Manha') in Portuguese is the same sound as 'ñ' in Spanish, and since everyone knows how to say 'Mañana', you now know how to say 'Manha' 😊
If a child was lift from a bed as pictured her head would be on the persons right arm. However, the drawings of the person carrying a child has her head on.the left arm!!!!
When you have the British Security Service at your back...Gerry was working, it wasn't a holiday...how many of those 'Doctors' were actually assets on the job too?
We heard Jerry came back 3 weeks later to bury her, when he used the rental car. Where was her body hidden during that time ? That would be the question. In a cold place as she would have been degraded and smelling like a cadaver. That would have been what the cadaver dogs smelled, in the car.
@@linanicolia1363 I've wondered whether Robert Murat could have helped out there; Gerry was very defensive when later asked if he knew Murat, yet he most definitely had met him!
I think it’s quite possible she was sedated right before they went to dinner. However, while they were still in the apartment Maddie could have started jumping on the coach after being sedated, the sedation took an effect, she fell down behind the coach and hit her head; hence, the blood found under the tiles. The parents tried to revive her unsuccessful, and decided to hide her before the dinner. They would not have had time to coordinate this story if one of them found her death during the checks. How? How would that parent alert the other one without causing hysteria? It happened before the dinner IMO, and I believe they were both present.
This crime is like jon benet ramsey the parent behavior and just that something off about the case from beginning. The parents hiding real thruth to keep their faces they didnt want to be killer parents or judged causing their childs death ... the body of Madeleine must be thrown in icean or in a well , ive read that there is many old deep wells in the area , bad parents who partying when children r alone thats so out of normal parenting they should be in jail for at least neglect
Tbh in Kate’s eyes it’s a long deep envisioning of her seeing her dead daughter. That’s not the look of not knowing it’s a look of knowing. I know Portuguese wine is excellent but I hope it was worth her and j neglecting their children.
So you believe their bullshit story then? That vacant look is the look of a child killer. There was no falling off balconies! No drugging! No neglect! She murdered Mafeleine in cold blood.
That dog handler and his dogs went on to introduce and teach cadaver dog training and handling to the FBI, by the way. I know, what an amateur with his daft mutts (NOT!)..
It's not complicated is it. The point is that Grimes and his dogs were top of their league with a spotless success record. Not the couple of dodgy old mutts & a policeman with unproven abilities that Gerry tried to infer they were.
What happened to the closed file on McCann detailing nasty things happening. It was many years ago i saw it, i haven't been able to find it recently so it's been mostly scrubbed. I remember thinking it appeared genuine, but idk... anyone else read that document I'm referring to??
@@anaseijas3923 no that's not what I mean although I have seen the actual video of gerry making the disgusting sound and comment, where he licks his fingers and mimes rubbing his nipples. Talking about Maddie in a sick perverse way. Not what even a father with dark sense of humour would say. I can still see and hear it I'm my mind's eye... Instead what I'm referring to is a document of a sealed case from some authority or agency, maybe police or maybe social services I really can't remember... stating that the family were up to awful things with the children... or something bad. I know it sounds ridiculous to remember it but not remember it really at all considering the gravity of what I'm talking about. However I'm hopeful that since you remembered the disgusting bj video, someone will remember the document I'm referring to. Argh. I remember reading it but can't for the life of me remember what it said.
bruckner without a doubt one bad hombre but the dogs rule him out, in order for cadaver smell to settle and been picked up by dogs the body must have rested there for several hours quietly rotting away
Is it normal for parents to leave their children alone while they are partying, drinking and vacationing in Europe? Did they feel that safe and isolated from the outside world?
Did the Tapas 7 know what happened and were they part of the cover up. If so, why? I would not help my friends cover up the death of a child. I would be singing like a canary.
Because they all left their children alone and were afraid it would be discovered. They might lose the licenses. 6 of them were doctors. Still very despicable
Did they not discredit the dogs that led to the dog's evidence being unreliable or the dog's handlers that led to other case's being dismissed that the dog's successfully dis what there train for ?
"...that we were somehow involved .." Oh yes .. never a truer word... I agree with Nick, I think Maddie fell off the balcony area when perhaps wanting her mother and climbing in that pursuit. As a way of avoiding the neglect by Gerry and Kate they concocted the abductor story and tried to hard to get Amaral off the case because he sussed the truth in this case. I so wish poor Maddie's remains could soon be found, she deserves a proper respectful burial and her parents brought to justice, for everything they've done, including wasting so much money from donations and the funding of the police case etc, on their behalf. The jogging route by Kate, in particular since Maddie's "disappearance" I think, possibly due to her fears that Maddie's remains might be discovered ...or her desire to have her found so that they could say the abductor killed her and hid her...
People keep saying the parents are possibly in on it, remember another group of parents and children were there and witnessed her presence before, So I’m sorry, but if you have a history of being a kid toucher and you were wrongly accused, I can tell you if I had a child disappear, and couldn’t catch the actual person red handed, i would be completely fine wrecking another chino’s life, and keeping them from doing it again
One possibility is that they could have thrown the body from the cliffs and into the water caves close by. There was no search there as it is very difficult acces. But I think to reach the cliffs he might have had to take a car… which I m not sure they had hired at that time
My hunch is that the parents were medicating the children to keep them quiet while they were out. Madeline woke up crying and looked for her parents on a previous night so they raised the dose to the point of toxicity, accidentally both administered a dose, or she had a bad reaction. (Like aspirating vomit) If they reported the death, Madeline would have had an autopsy. That might have detected the chemical in her system. If that caused (or contributed to) her death, there would have been a trial. The parents likely would have had their other children taken away and been jailed. The surviving children/ keeping the family together is the motive.
Hunting terrorists...the kid died during a major operation, the job had to be completed, as it was,before all the heat appeared from the Portuguese...why do you think the government was all over this,right from the start?
I thought this is an unusual case. I think there is more to what was told and what met the eyes. Almost everyone believes it was sedative overdosed incident. Somehow I thought it wasn't the case. I think you are on the something.@@williamrae9954
Well, such an accident that would have exposed the negligence, would have destroyed their lives, completely. They could have lost their medical licenses, their twins and their freedom, for a while. They would not have had a choice, but to cover it up.
@peg an "accident" can still involve criminal culpability. Because of neglect, recklessness, abuse. Think of drink driving and mowing someone down. In fact the charge of manslaughter is just for those circumstances.
Like Delphi currently, the official narrative is one big lie...I'm glad that one is imploding, after nearly 7yrs of placating the sheep...and some cannot handle it,their book deals are going up in smoke!
So ? you think she was taken ? It was what Kate said....."They have taken her"........Instead of saying ? I can't find her, where could she be ? running around in the street, calling her mom ? That would have been an expectation. To say " they have taken her" means that maybe, there was something going on, that perhaps, went wrong ? That is another possibility.
Amaral’s only failure was suggesting an accidental death ! He knows exactly what happened, but he was smart enough not to say !
I think GA was waiting until he had enough proof. I am sure he knows or at least suspects what they were up to with that child and possibly others.
Nothing in their behaviour relates to how any loving parent would react to their child disappearing. It's all unbelievable. Imo.
How do you know?... Where you actually there in their presence to witness all this you claim?!!!
@@philgarlic8047Ha - Ha You make me laugh. 😂
A typical puerile response from those with nothing to offer other than lambasting the McCanns.@@Leftcatholicsatanchurch09
@@philgarlic8047Have you got kids? You would have to be an ice cold psychopath to be able to keep it together at the mere thought of it.
Wouldn't you be able to say, "What's done is done," about a week out from your child disappearing? Wouldn't you only feel guilty about what happened for just a few days, like them? Anyway, yeah, they are a strange duo, no doubt about it. I think if I lost a beloved pet, I'd show more concern than them -- and at least if a pet ends up with a stranger, they are probably feeding it and looking to bring it back, and not torturing it or worse.
I read Amaral's "A Verdade da Mentira" (The Truth of the Lie) and, at the time, watched many of the interviews he was asked to participate in. After being fired, insulted, humiliated for years, and put through pure hell, I was very happy to hear that Amaral was finally, and rightfully, vindicated. Thanks, Nick, for not giving up on this case...yet!
the arrogance of these parents is appalling. the fact they brought Scotland yard to Portugal to investigate the disappearance of Maddie says volumes. They tried very hard to control the media and the investigation to this day. In my opinion they are blaming everyone and their cousin for the disappearance of Maddie. I think it was an accident none of the less they are guilty of killing their own child
I read The Truth of The Lie twice when it was first released. Gonçalo Amaral knew the truth which, IMO is why he was dropped from the case.
He did a far better job in the circumstances than the cover-up "investigation" by the British police. He was absolutely in the right to have considered the parents alongside everyone else, as is done in every other missing person/murder case. Yet he's been thoroughly trashed for it. Shameful.
My heart breaks for Amaral - just trying to do his job, trying to find a missing child.
At the end of the day, a beautiful little girl is missing, presumed dead, and nobody is giving up any answers. She deserves some honesty. It will probably be one of those unsolved child abduction cases, and we may never know the truth. Certainly someone would be very satisfied if it was just a forgotten cold case. It really deserves to be kept open, and fresh reviews made regularly. And this series is doing a good job in seperating the chaff.
The only time I ever saw these two looking absolutely distraught was when they lost the court case against this man. They both looked bereft and yet they never looked like this in 2007. 😢
bang on, they are disgusting. I always think you have to be a bit odd to be a doctor.
To raise those crazy amounts of charity money based on the fabricated story of "abduction" and use it as their own; spend it to pay back their mortage and to beat Amaral in the legal battle, it's a HUGE embezzlement crime and they should definetely face charges and be convicted. Plus all the other crimes committed by them of course.
It's what ,today we call scammers,
@@adcashmo Unfortunately yes, I'm afraid that's just the way it went
@@adcashmoand why would he leave his extremely high powered, well paid role to be the McCanns spokesperson? That in itself is strange.
It's just an ploy to close this case, a deep state ploy to close this case use brockner as a fall guy and let's two guilty parents off. They have never acted as normal parents, look at the case of Ben Needham who went missing in kos, he was never found either, why did they not get millions from UK gov for funding and support like they have had from Blair and brown.
I would have hired the best missing children agency in the world, with back up from a Portuguese one, not a two person operation specialised in fraud in Spain, which speaks a different language, but maybe that's just me.
Something stinks here.someone is protecting them,powerful people, willing to crush anyone who gets near the truth.
There's something missed here,gorden brown, Scotland
Yard,Toni Blair's fixer full time
For a year and the pope to
The rescue.
And the big question: why the powerful protection?
They should of had their kids taken off them when they came back too UK if they werent doctors and normal citizens then child protection services would of taken the kids away!
I have often wondered why no charges for at least child neglect, or abandonment. They left all of their children alone in a foreign country. Comes across as selfish.
Don't remember normal citizens suing people for having alternative opinions either....they seemed to be more bothered about public opinion than actually looking for their "missing" child.
Social did assess them when they got back to the UK, they were satisfied.
@@Plainandsimple25social services 😂.. in that case then they must be great parents
They had special connections, that protected them.
As many have mentioned I just can’t fathom leaving those babies alone while they went out to eat.
That should be the huge mistake they made, to leave the kids alone. They should have been fined for " neglect" but they got special protection from the British investigation team. It pays to be " connected".....They certainly are.
It's not a true story. They fabricated it.
I don't believe they did.
That was all made up.
A diversionary tactic.
What if Madeleine died BEFORE that night? They made up this abduction nonsense to cover themselves.
Well, they claimed, among other things, that: (A) The resort seemed super-safe, and vacationing in general is super-safe; (B) Partying at the tapas bar was equivalent to being in the backyard or garden of a house whilst the children slept just inside; and (C) They'd developed, along with their friends, a system for checking up on the children that was almost as good as being with them the whole time. No doubt they also compressed the time they were away, and downplayed the extent of their drinking. So these people seem pretty good at excusing themselves, both as events happen, and afterwards -- and seem much different, psychologically, than most normal parents with normal empathy and guilt.
Children can be abducted anywhere. It probably wasn't an adduction, its the stupid parents drug the kids and then the child ODed.
In a statement Gerry said, he had messages from thousands of parents who often leave their young children and go out dining & drinking, sorry Gerry that's a complete fabrication, as a doctor to make such a outlandish statement is verging on madness perhaps lunacy. R.
I very much appreciate your intent to NOT sensationalize criminality. Your efforts to provide "just the facts, mam" goes a long way toward encouraging the viewer/listener to analyze, to think rationally and clearly. And when you do offer an analysis, it is yours and yours alone, and you provide your thought processes on your journey to it.
Biggest cover up in British legal history.
Second biggest. Princess Dianna is the biggest.
If she did indeed die that night, it would be quite a feat to hide her body in a short period of time. Running around looking for a spot? They must have known that there would be searching and dogs would be used, that they wouldnt be taken at their word. And that they would be watched once the incident was reported. Their friends too. Did it happen earlier, a different day, giving them time to look for a hiding spot? Were they looking for one while on their, "jogs?" I also dont get asking their friends to get involved. !!!!! Covering up a death?? Finally, why not just report the accident? Was it an accident? Did she have injuries that would be determined to be intentional? If your kid has an accident and dies, wouldnt you be screaming and blind with hysteria? How were they able to contain their anguish? Not scream their lungs out? They saw she was dead and thought, "we gotta hide her?" Its so callous, creepy and bizarre. And dismissive and disrespectful of their daughter.
She was gone by the previous Sunday, all the daily photos stopped that day...no kid was technically missing for 5 days?
As a parent, I would NEVER leave my sleeping child all alone while I go party. Imagine waking up as a very young girl and your parents are no where to be found, that's when things start to go wrong!
@theguy9067 they outted themselves as negligent "leaving her alone, sleeping"
SHE DIED THE DAY BEFORE 😮
She Possibly died a day or two before the night that everyone told! There is no evidence of her being alive the day she was supposedly abducted, forged signatures on day club that day and no footage of her that day! As for not reporting a tragic accident if thats how she died, ask why, was she drugged so she would sleep through the night, or is there more of a disturbing reason why and there is no way parents would want a post mortem as it would reveal something else, ie abuse or SA for example! Im not saying this is why but if it was just an accident and parents were not there then yes they liable for neglect but surely you would have to take the fact and live with the guilt! MM died in apartment and dogs alerted to this, MM was moved by car at somepoint and cremated at near by church late one evening, she will never be found and those involved know this, the question is, why would if an accident, this be covered up, if an accident? No evidence of an abduction, but evidence of death, massive attempt to convince public of abduction by Mainstream media and government! Sorry but based on evidence available there was no abduction, so why so many high profile people involved and why were portugese police taken off case and have to take orders from uk authorities? Something not right at all
Your channel is incredibly informative and very interesting. Thank you for all the research you put into these cases.
Thanks for watching!
@@TCRS I like the different angle you look at the case from. The Cuddle Cat epi was eye opening.
Thanks for all the thought provoking content Nick. We appreciate you.
Thank you for covering this, as well as Ramsey! I thought everyone had forgotten about both, even if the cases weren't "solved".
Thank you so much!
There are still strange stories leaking around the murder of this child. That death may not have been a total surprise, as certain types of behavior by a fairly large group of people, is full of unexpected tragedies. Another case that will not likely ever be solved, but should have been, years ago. The child went some 26 times to her pediatrician for bladder issues. Hello ! that is a flag for sexual abuse. Also one the kids ( which one ?) was smearing feces on the walls ; another sign of abuse..What sort of parent parades a little girl, making her look like a grown up, performing in Vegas, as a show girl ? Who does that ? It is warped. No wonder, she would normally wet the bed. These people would not get the parents of the year award !
I was not convinced of their guilt by anything else other than their interviews. Kate was very cold as a mother with a missing child. I would have been devastated.
The dogs didnt lie.
The dogs don't have an agenda...
Thanks nick for this, your content is fascinating. Writing those books too. You have invested so much time into maddie and Jon benet. Thank you 👍🏻
Wow sir, youre really pumping out these videos! Thank you
Who leaves young children unattended ? Then doesn’t get charged for neglect ! Shocking they had everything to do with Madeline’s disappearance and death I believe
such guilty faces and cold expressions on them.
I'm glad the detective was vindicated. Looking forward to the next part!
#nicksbooksonamazon
Hey Nick. I remember watching a very short video clip taken by one of the McCann's travel buddies. It seems to have been taken on an airport transport shuttle. Gerry makes a strange comment. Can't remember what someone said to him, but his answer was something like "I'm not here to enjoy myself" or something similar. He said it with a serious expression on his face and his body language looked really tense.
Yes I know what you're referring to.
I'm pleased you brought that up because even though I tend to believe she died accidently - I don't recall there ever being an explanation for that comment. I understand going on holiday with 3 v young children might be stressful at times - but it's not even as though they spent much time with the children. My understanding is the children spent most of their days on the complex's day care facilties - then possibly drugged at night.
He said " fcuk off, I'm not here to enjoy myself".
Dogs do not lie. Fact.
Two ice cold calculating individuals.
We know Maddie was a poor sleeper who wandered at night. There was a star chart for nights she stayed in her own bed. She woke one night, she questioned being alone. we have only the parents word for it being the night before she was missed. The parents are drs with access and knowledge of sedation. I think it was normal both at home and on holiday to use sedation. One night possibly earlier in the week the dose was increased to ensure her not waking, but she did wake, dopey and unsteady she fell from the back of the sofa either head injury or positional affixation, died, bled from small wound. I think that all the tapas parents were sedating their kids, and that is why they colluded in hiding the body, and covering up supporting the kidnap theory all had a great deal to lose if there was an investigation of an accidental overdose. Did the body itself have to be in the car? Are the dogs able to tell if items which had been close to the body were carried in the car in the same way the hit on the toy and Kate's clothing? A tragic accident, covered up by parents scared to lose the twins and , careers, .who were faced with an option and people willing to support them for self interest. Once on that road they had to stay on it
If sedated, she could easily have swallowed her tongue.
Wow. It would be chilling if you've nailed how it exactly went down, since you seem to have explained almost everything. As for the road the parents have had to travel, no doubt at the time of the incident they reasonably figured, as the parents of JonBenet had done before them, that the storm would blow over fairly quickly, eventually leaving them alone to deal with the aftermath, & allowing them to consign the entire matter of their daughter's existence to a dusty photo album left on a shelf, pulled out at most once a year, for decorum's sake. Instead, the story caught fire around the world and they've been forced to tell a thousand lies, on TV, in books, and in person. I'm sure that by now, even once they reach their deathbed and the need to dissemble is past, they won't change a single note of their tune. It's a song of how bad luck came to them, how the system let them down, and how they've bravely carried on, in spite of being unjustly accused and suffering a tragic loss.
This was easy to figure out. Accident coverup. Don't leave your babies alone to have dinner with friends not so nearby. They wanted to have fun at their children's expense IMO.
Which parent drug their own child so that the child would sleep. Insane. That s a crime , giving drugs to your own child.
Congratulations on ur channel growing so fast! ❤ u deserve it!
Why did Gordon Brown travel to Portugal supporting the Mccanns? Many children go missing every year, but have not seen him go to their rescue, which is quite puzzling.
Gordon brown documented paedophile of little girls, Blair ninth circle satanists
Because they had his personal phone number ,so obviously connected.
@@garyfff4757 I agree, but it may lie deeper than that.
Gordon Brown is a freemason and the president of the Lodge which Gerry belonged too. Freemasons are notoriously secret and always protect their own brothers in the lodge. Thats what all freemason do and why the then prime minister was able to close down the Portuguese investigation to protect Gerry
Freemasons protect each other to the grave.
You're a clever guy,great clear no nonsense videos.
People tend to respect doctors but they are no better than anyone else,often worse as often corrupted by love of money.
I am wondering why the McCanns had to rent a car suddenly when all they did was spending time at this resort playing tennis and going to the Tapas bar
They were transporting people to and from the airport that came over to support them after Maddie disappeared
They also went on a long drive that a body could have been easily buried.
If it subsequently comes out that they are guilty will they need to repay any money they have got
It’s my theory that the McCans deliberately let one of their friends check on the children that night so that they could raise the alarm when Maddie wasn’t there, however i dont think he went in the room, he just listened and came back to the restaurant and said it was all quiet
Love everything you do! Stay safe
I must say you have a talent for identifying valuable points. Good job!
Excellent series. Thanks.
About 20 years ago,a friend told me "we are the most corrupt nation on earth" We are English,I told him theres far more corrupt country's than us.about a year ago I told him he was correct.Its done intelligently but increasingly more blatant.
I know this might be far fetched but when was the last time after getting off the plane was she actually seen in person by someone other than the group? How can 7 people keep the secret for so long? Someone is always the weakest link and cracks first regardless of any money or blackmail involved.
When they are all in the deep state club, not just the maccans but the tapas 7 too, their conversations to each other were noted as too familiar, they not once broke the line or got angry with leaving 3 babies alone and vulnerable in that flat, even told maddie had cried for her parents whilst they were out and they still carried on leaving them, medicating them, refusing the babysitting service, doors and windows unlocked. How many alarm bells need to go off before you twig they are guilty. But the final kicker for me was the mother writing in her book and stating in interview about maddies beautiful private parts, what the hell ?
Hello, well done on your investigative work. I was wondering how the twins are doing these days.....and what happened to the Tapas Seven. The McCanns would need to keep them onside. Interesting to see what the friendship status is now. Keep digging. Something will come of all this. Growing numbers of people following this and want to see Madeleine has 'justice'. The twins must have had many difficulties with such doubt and mystery hanging over their sister's disappearance. My thoughts are in accordance more or less with yours.
Very informative. Thanks.
I have appreciated every episode you’ve put out of every case, this one is fascinated me and I didn’t know a ton of the details. The one thing that I still can’t get a grasp is when the body was moved and where, and the dogs hitting on the car it sounds like happened Several weeks or a month later can you direct me to one of your episodes that might explain any of this and or make a new one that addresses some of these questions? Much appreciation…
I think the idea is that, after she died, she was taken not far away and hidden. This spot was considered good, but not perfect -- especially since the incident had blown up into an international story. So later on, with the help of the car and some more creative thinking, it was moved to a better spot or destroyed.
@@ruthx3346 Just imagine what one well-placed surveillance camera could have done to shed light on everything!
@@ruthx3346 Ah, good question, now that you've made me think about it. I guess if you had just one, you might miss the action, or you could hit the jackpot and see someone carrying away the little lass. Still, anything's better than the near total blank described by the Portuguese.
There is a theory that her body was eventually hidden in a fridge in a villa the McCanns moved into. It was at that villa that they had to leave the car boot open to clear the smell. One of the reasons fir the fridge theory, is that the McCanns replaced the fridge themselves at some point, (saying it was faulty), instead of asking the landlord to replace it. I don't think anyone knows where the body was kept prior to moving into the villa. It was said that a Catholic priest the couple went to see had some sort of breakdown due to being traumatised by what he learnt. Some people think he may have helped hide the body for a while because he took pity on their situation...but that story seemed to disappear.
I think the reason why the detective is saying he believes it was an accident is or was in hope that people in general would more likely feel easier about talking or interacting if they are not being suspected of anything deliberate or darker in nature I think that if it was simply an extremely unfortunate tragedy with good people with normal healthy lifestyles considering their occupations and occupations of their friends that just calling emergency services and telling them what happened would have been done they are healers doctor's life savers who would surely have character witnesses that would be able to put them beyond reproach and post mortem would collaborate this
That's what makes an accident most unlikely to me
If they and their friends were allowed to be looked into and cleared and their accounts of the 2 hours prior to the alarm being raised constantly changing makes it impossible to just accept an abduction or accident as answer
If the road of enquiry that is always gone down as a matter of course is blocked off and deliberately entirely secured protected from investigation then WHY until that road is opened that road will always have people wanting to get access
We don't have access all areas that is the problem
Why didn’t they leave children with relatives in England. They were too young anyway
And is it common to go on a vacation like that? 3 families with young children? Sounds awful
They sacrificed her for riches, pair of satans minions
Thank you, very informative.
It gives me so much satisfaction that Amaral stayed strong, kept fighting in court, and won. I assume the McCanns paid the court judgment to Amaral from donated funds in the Maddie “Trust”.
Amaral is a convicted perjurer as if you didn't already know!!!
The treatment of LC under police questioning was extremely fishy!
Amaral was convicted by a Portuguese court, no less, and given a suspended sentence... the man is untrustworthy! And furthermore wanted to Kate McCann to accept a pathetic plea deal when he hadn't got a clue how Madeleine had disappeared... no wonder she rejected their offer and treated the PJ with the contempt they so rightly deserved!@@ruthx3346
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Thank you for reading The information in this section. I am slowly losing my sight.
I believe the parents are guilty. It could have been an accident, medication overdose. They are guilty of extreme neglect at the very least.
I was in Portugal at this time, or should I say we moved there a few weeks after the event…. What I’ve always found strange so the children disappear, but the McCann made a business out of their tragedy…. I think it’s important that all avenues in the investigation I looked at…. But there is a possibility that the child was dead, not murdered but overmedicated…. If this happened, the McCann would be in trouble, so you can see why the story has possibly developed. We know the possible time that the body could’ve been removed, and we have evidence that there was a dead body in the car and next to the child’s favourite toy.. both of these items were detected via cadaver dog… if we know the time and the mileage on the car. what is this not been calculated and the cadaver dog deployed in these areas to look for human remains…. did their upmost to the evidence of the cadaver dog and use public sympathy to organise this…. The police in question has a 100% positive identification on the bacterial smells that occur after death….
Thank you Nick
However, please forgive, I did not KNOW poor little Madeleine, was missing for all those days,24, was it.
Shocking
Yet NO one was alerted to where she was 🤔
Another informative Vlogg
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People have been convicted with half the evidence that is present in this case!! Unbelievable that there not behind bars .
The British media just repeated the "disgraced Portuguese detective" manta whenever reporting on Amaral 🤨
The truth will out no matter how long it has taken!
How often was Scotland Yard involved in such kind of cases in the past ? I mean covering up something......
Publicly … zero
"Cough"....Willie McRae, Jill Dando,Jo Cox,the Spy in the Bag,Charles de Menenez....the list is long,and you may think it's local cops,but in those cases,it's London running the show!
Diana in the tunnel ?
Why weren’t the parents jailed for leaving their kids alone.
Because Detective Amaral knew that it was a cover story, he was looking for a way to get the full story.
If they had come clean and said it was an accident. But then again why drug their kids. It was supposed to put in deep sleep. So they could socialize. They would be out of prison by now for manslaughter, child neglect, endangeriment. Just the fact the kids left alone and child taken. They are pretty much responsible. I don’t feel sorry for them. They got off scotfree for being irresponsible. No excuses, well child gone punishment enough. No it isn’t if they even accidentally killed their child. They won’t say a thing. They know what they did. I know they have other children, but they senselessly lost one because of stupidity. If they ever confess they should go to prison.
An interesting question is when was she last seen alive ? Credibly, independently alive. If you exclude any of the Tapas gang as witnesses to that then it would be the creche worker. Though some think there's issues there too in terms of independence.
Just my opinion: I believe they must have had to put her somewhere they were familiar with as they hadn't been there long... On their jogging route, there were a few holiday homes set back from the beach.. A lot of foreign places have fridges outside... these homes where holiday homes most vacant that time of year... might explain why they still went jogging.. Sat on a hill while the search went on that week... wasn't it reported that Jayne Tanner viewed some holiday lets places via a letting agency Robert ... May be how they found out what holiday homes where empty...
That is a very good point. They must have moved her several times. At least twice imo.
1) Gerry takes the body (and is seen by multiple people) to the initial hiding place almost immediately after Kate raises the alarm. Like you say, this was somewhere on or near the beach. Possibly an empty home with a fridge. Or even a cave with a dark interior, somewhere they jogged past every day.
2) A fridge in the rented villa they occupied after leaving the apartment. The interim hiding place until they could hire a car etc.
3) The final resting place (the ocean, a well) via the hire car. They were driving round in that car for miles every day looking for somewhere to dump her. Hence the huge mileage they did.
@hayleylongster4698 very good insights... so many things that point towards her dying in the apartment... wel leave no stone unturned.. yet totally dismissed the Dogs evidence the only possible physical evidence which may of lead to their daughter was a big give away for me... your on holiday your child goes missing so many people had access to her if innocent and the dogs found evidence you would want that looked at would you it would be hard to think but one of your friends may of hurt her or anyone really who knew the door was being left open... KM called the dog handler a wanker in her book imagine that someone trying to locate yoir child and in your head your calling him a wanker... they left that stone totally unturned....so sad all the people who were suppose to protect her let her down..🙏
They,ve got to be innocent as they met with the pope and received his blessing. Given his history with the protection of children no stronger endorsement could surely be found.
Cynical or sarcastic ? the Pope ? yeah.....he specializes in kids.
Surprising they didn't get good old Jimmy involved in the cash raising.
In the end, they are responsible for the missing child if only because they abandoned their daughter to get drunk with their friends. Living with that isn't punishment enough.
Well, it has to be as they have these twins to raise. They are still young and need their parents. They don't have any choice but to keep the status quo. Maybe in 20 years, they will come clean ? They may just come clean, as they are on their death bed. Every one would forgive them ! I am sure Maddie has, a long time ago. In the spirit world, the energy is powerful and Maddie is checking them out. She is OK. I bet she visits them, in their dreams.....
They are both doctors. They both know it's neglect to leave kids that young alone , especially in a foreign country . I think that Madeline must have been a problem child , and being that they were doctors didn't want to deal with her . They had two more newer babies to raise and didn't want the burden of Madeline's problems.
........there just may be some insight into what you've said
@@SerendipityNJ thank you
Regarding the carrying of the body anywhere around in that area at the time was difficult due to excavations this was for replacements of major sewers.
Think that maddie might not have gone missing on that said day, i believe it was before, and i also believe they are all in on it.
A bizarre contradiction in Jane Tanner's man with child statement. She says the man had lots of clothes on, heavy clothes and that she noticed that as odd because Brits abroad tend to dress lightly in shorts or cut offs (true). Next bit of statement - she describes seeing a child's unclad feet sticking out and thinking that's odd, that child will be cold, because actually it's quite a cold night, so cold that she herself is wearing a jumper. So which is it Jane, on this May night in Portugal ? Tropical or arctic?
It was unseasonably cold that night.
Sorry, but just have to comment on the pronunciation...: 'nh' (as in 'Manha') in Portuguese is the same sound as 'ñ' in Spanish, and since everyone knows how to say 'Mañana', you now know how to say 'Manha' 😊
TOP work! ❤
If a child was lift from a bed as pictured her head would be on the persons right arm. However, the drawings of the person carrying a child has her head on.the left arm!!!!
b. Good point.
I've said this from the start, glad someone else noticed.
How does the body disappear without someone briefly obtaining equipment: vehicle, boat, shovel, etc?
Could it have been kept in one of the other apartments rented by the Tapas 7? Were they investigated at all?
When you have the British Security Service at your back...Gerry was working, it wasn't a holiday...how many of those 'Doctors' were actually assets on the job too?
We heard Jerry came back 3 weeks later to bury her, when he used the rental car. Where was her body hidden during that time ? That would be the question. In a cold place as she would have been degraded and smelling like a cadaver. That would have been what the cadaver dogs smelled, in the car.
@@linanicolia1363 I've wondered whether Robert Murat could have helped out there; Gerry was very defensive when later asked if he knew Murat, yet he most definitely had met him!
In some countries you don't sue if you know that you are in the wrong, Court is the last place you want to be as you will be exposed.
I think it’s quite possible she was sedated right before they went to dinner. However, while they were still in the apartment Maddie could have started jumping on the coach after being sedated, the sedation took an effect, she fell down behind the coach and hit her head; hence, the blood found under the tiles. The parents tried to revive her unsuccessful, and decided to hide her before the dinner. They would not have had time to coordinate this story if one of them found her death during the checks. How? How would that parent alert the other one without causing hysteria? It happened before the dinner IMO, and I believe they were both present.
Maybe they got rid of madelaines body were the rubbish gets dumped
This crime is like jon benet ramsey the parent behavior and just that something off about the case from beginning. The parents hiding real thruth to keep their faces they didnt want to be killer parents or judged causing their childs death ... the body of Madeleine must be thrown in icean or in a well , ive read that there is many old deep wells in the area , bad parents who partying when children r alone thats so out of normal parenting they should be in jail for at least neglect
Obviously have friends in high places
Tbh in Kate’s eyes it’s a long deep envisioning of her seeing her dead daughter. That’s not the look of not knowing it’s a look of knowing. I know Portuguese wine is excellent but I hope it was worth her and j neglecting their children.
So you believe their bullshit story then?
That vacant look is the look of a child killer.
There was no falling off balconies! No drugging! No neglect!
She murdered Mafeleine in cold blood.
Why do the sketches look like John podesta and his brother? Also the female looks exactly Ike G Maxwell
It was happening in the "Pizzagate" time......Yeah......strange coincidence.
That dog handler and his dogs went on to introduce and teach cadaver dog training and handling to the FBI, by the way. I know, what an amateur with his daft mutts (NOT!)..
It's not complicated is it. The point is that Grimes and his dogs were top of their league with a spotless success record. Not the couple of dodgy old mutts & a policeman with unproven abilities that Gerry tried to infer they were.
@@ruthx3346So what’s your point?
What happened to the closed file on McCann detailing nasty things happening. It was many years ago i saw it, i haven't been able to find it recently so it's been mostly scrubbed.
I remember thinking it appeared genuine, but idk... anyone else read that document I'm referring to??
Likely, has been scrubbed......
@@anaseijas3923 no that's not what I mean although I have seen the actual video of gerry making the disgusting sound and comment, where he licks his fingers and mimes rubbing his nipples. Talking about Maddie in a sick perverse way. Not what even a father with dark sense of humour would say.
I can still see and hear it I'm my mind's eye...
Instead what I'm referring to is a document of a sealed case from some authority or agency, maybe police or maybe social services I really can't remember... stating that the family were up to awful things with the children... or something bad. I know it sounds ridiculous to remember it but not remember it really at all considering the gravity of what I'm talking about. However I'm hopeful that since you remembered the disgusting bj video, someone will remember the document I'm referring to.
Argh. I remember reading it but can't for the life of me remember what it said.
Who leaves their babies alone?
Indulged drunks who hide behind pretentious professionalism to never be questioned about their neglectful parenting. 😢
Ocean.....especially if tide is going out.
bruckner without a doubt one bad hombre but the dogs rule him out, in order for cadaver smell to settle and been picked up by dogs the body must have rested there for several hours quietly rotting away
Is it normal for parents to leave their children alone while they are partying, drinking and vacationing in Europe? Did they feel that safe and isolated from the outside world?
I wonder why Maddy would have bled? if overdose or positional asphyxiation, it seems there'd be no blood evidence. So many questions ❤
If she fell there might be blood, also possible during resuscitation attempts?
Did the Tapas 7 know what happened and were they part of the cover up. If so, why? I would not help my friends cover up the death of a child. I would be singing like a canary.
Because they all left their children alone and were afraid it would be discovered. They might lose the licenses. 6 of them were doctors. Still very despicable
If Madeleine was so tired that night then why did her parents give her medicine to sleep?
Did they not discredit the dogs that led to the dog's evidence being unreliable or the dog's handlers that led to other case's being dismissed that the dog's successfully dis what there train for ?
"...that we were somehow involved .."
Oh yes .. never a truer word... I agree with Nick, I think Maddie fell off the balcony area when perhaps wanting her mother and climbing in that pursuit. As a way of avoiding the neglect by Gerry and Kate they concocted the abductor story and tried to hard to get Amaral off the case because he sussed the truth in this case.
I so wish poor Maddie's remains could soon be found, she deserves a proper respectful burial and her parents brought to justice, for everything they've done, including wasting so much money from donations and the funding of the police case etc, on their behalf.
The jogging route by Kate, in particular since Maddie's "disappearance" I think, possibly due to her fears that Maddie's remains might be discovered ...or her desire to have her found so that they could say the abductor killed her and hid her...
I wonder did they ever take a lie detector test ?
No.
They actually refused to take a polygraph test, now that's a sign of guilt a real red flag. R.
Far to much alcohol resulting home alone 2.
People keep saying the parents are possibly in on it, remember another group of parents and children were there and witnessed her presence before,
So I’m sorry, but if you have a history of being a kid toucher and you were wrongly accused, I can tell you if I had a child disappear, and couldn’t catch the actual person red handed, i would be completely fine wrecking another chino’s life, and keeping them from doing it again
One possibility is that they could have thrown the body from the cliffs and into the water caves close by. There was no search there as it is very difficult acces. But I think to reach the cliffs he might have had to take a car… which I m not sure they had hired at that time
But, if it was the parent’s doing, what’s the motive? Why hide your daughter’s body if it was an accident?
My hunch is that the parents were medicating the children to keep them quiet while they were out. Madeline woke up crying and looked for her parents on a previous night so they raised the dose to the point of toxicity, accidentally both administered a dose, or she had a bad reaction. (Like aspirating vomit) If they reported the death, Madeline would have had an autopsy. That might have detected the chemical in her system. If that caused (or contributed to) her death, there would have been a trial. The parents likely would have had their other children taken away and been jailed. The surviving children/ keeping the family together is the motive.
Hunting terrorists...the kid died during a major operation, the job had to be completed, as it was,before all the heat appeared from the Portuguese...why do you think the government was all over this,right from the start?
I thought this is an unusual case. I think there is more to what was told and what met the eyes. Almost everyone believes it was sedative overdosed incident. Somehow I thought it wasn't the case. I think you are on the something.@@williamrae9954
Well, such an accident that would have exposed the negligence, would have destroyed their lives, completely. They could have lost their medical licenses, their twins and their freedom, for a while. They would not have had a choice, but to cover it up.
@peg an "accident" can still involve criminal culpability. Because of neglect, recklessness, abuse. Think of drink driving and mowing someone down. In fact the charge of manslaughter is just for those circumstances.
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The Podesta brothers were in the area at the time & fit the profile pictures released
Don't be silly. Law enforcement don't take any of that seriously, and neither has Amaral. Please stop spreading misinformation.
Dogs don’t lie…..
Simple neglect
Neglect to start with, then , it got complicated.
Cuddle cat did it!
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What if they overdosed her and started panicking? 😮
I am still not convinced they hurt their daughter. I think they made a tragic choice to leave their children in the room and go out to dinner.
Ok but if she had an accident while in the apartment on her own they did hurt her
Like Delphi currently, the official narrative is one big lie...I'm glad that one is imploding, after nearly 7yrs of placating the sheep...and some cannot handle it,their book deals are going up in smoke!
@@smartypants7284 semantics but I’ll agree.
So ? you think she was taken ? It was what Kate said....."They have taken her"........Instead of saying ? I can't find her, where could she be ? running around in the street, calling her mom ? That would have been an expectation. To say " they have taken her" means that maybe, there was something going on, that perhaps, went wrong ? That is another possibility.
@@linanicolia1363Who was the they? Sounded like she knew who “they”were. Just saying 😊