To me, the way they reacted to the dogs smelling blood and cadaver is very telling. They immediately discounted the dogs instead of getting upset that that might mean their baby was hurt or dead , they got defensive . Very very suspicious.
Didn't they clean the toy almost imediately too? You just would NEVER do that if your child went missing - you would want their smell on their toy still to comfort you.
Well several people lived in the apartment before and after the McCanns, also those dogs don’t look for dead people but for dead meat, by itself it’s not a proof anyone died in the apartment, UK and German police agreed on that, but you Karen you still find it suspicious. Maybe do your own research, maybe develop your critical thinking because there is actual facts that explain what you find so weird. They also have proofs that they didn’t do anything and that someone else did it, they have proofs the man killed Madeleine, but you still there accusing the parents….. at this point it’s known the parents are innocents.
I thought the mom admitted to washing cuddle cat. Which is odd in my opinion. If it was my baby missing, I would never ever wash it. I would keep it close and smell it in case it still smelled like my child.
if it happened to someone that didn't have connections to a government official they be in prison for neglect just saying, since day one I have said the parents know more than they let on why are they interviewed separately. i smell a cover-up i really do ruclips.net/video/oWrd9ZIhKXg/видео.html
Maddy mum didn’t let that cat leave her hands after Maddy went missing, she carried it everywhere. Police wanted to take cuddle cat, probably for examination. Baring in mind Maddy mum said she was holding on to the cat because it reminded her of Maddy and it still had maddies smell, so why did she go and wash cuddle cat before handing it to police? Who would do that?
IF cadaver dog(s) alerted in their villa, I believe the dogs. I trained and raised both service & cadaver dogs for decades...their noses are astonishing.
There was Maddie’s hair in there, and maybe saliva. But forensics at that time wasn’t that strong yet, I suppose. The case was butchered by the Portuguese police.
@@laurenmay2098 Incompetent Portuguese police was a myth started by the McCanns on the very night Madeleine allegedly disappeared. Guilty people often try and discredit the police who are investigating their crimes.
@@colleenshea2293 We know Madeleine was not abducted. In 16 years there has not been an iota of evidence of abduction. British police can't find any although they've been looking for the last 12 years. Portuguese police know the McCanns are involved in their daughter's disappearance. I don't know what Wolters and the German police are doing? Making themselves look like prats I would think!
She probably died a day or two before, giving them time to bury her somewhere faraway. They pretended to go and check on the sleeping children, and found Maddie was gone. That was their alibi....
Arrest them, I’m sick and tried of these people raking in millions at the demise of their daughter!! All fingers point to them! Millions of children go missing every year and they don’t get this media attention. And the comment she made in her book about maddies genitalia is beyond disgusting and disturbing!
To be fair, the children being left alone, although negligent, had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. She was already dead and gone by the Thursday night. The parents had no choice but to "admit" to neglecting their children. It was a lesser evil than admitting they had hidden her body.
I think that the Portuguese police were 100%correct. The lot of them should have been charged with negligence. Why did the prime minister run across to hold their hands? You have to ask yourself what would have happened if any of the normal working class had refused the child sitting services, and gone off to a restaurant down the road. One of the children was ill. Would you have left your child? Would you have let a male workmate bath your child?
With respect Sheila, the restaurant was inside the complex.. I agree about never leaving your children alone though, especially so young! I wouldn't be able to eat or settle if it was me.. Lots of folk take the children out in the evening, European people are very good with children. A buggy for M & a double one for the twins? Kids would have dozed off there, outside. Perhaps they kind of *knew they would sleep through in the apartment????
I saw the older first interviews with the Mcanns and also their family in the UK. They said the windows were 'jammied' and the predator came through the window that the predator had broken. Then, their storey changed. No evidence of any window being broken was present. The storey then came to be that they left the door unlocked. The first storey being changed seamed odd.
So, one wrinkle that has recently jumped out to me is Kate's TV re-enactment of her discovery that Madeleine was missing. She says: "The bedroom door where the 3 children were sleeping was open much further than we’d left it. I went to close it to about here, and then as it got to here, it suddenly slammed, and then as I opened it, it was then that I just thought, I’ll look at the children." This means that: 1. She entered the apartment and noticed the door was more ajar than usual, (but assumed Matt had left it like that). 2. Went to close the door. 3. Only thought to look at the children after the door had slammed. This is the problem. WHY? Wouldn't you: 1. enter apartment, notice door. 2. ENTER THE ROOM. Why did she go to close the door before going inside? It just doesn't work. It points strongly to fabrication.
@TGS fair point. But then again, "looking at the children" was the sole reason for her trip. But hazy recall could well be the reason. Thank you for playing devil's "avocado" 😈🥑 ☺️
Or, I guess it points to her having no intention of entering the room, checking they're all there, breathing, you know, typical parent checks. Perhaps listening outside the door was their idea of checking.
Kate washed the cuddle cat so no DNA. These two never took a polygraph test or answered any proper questions to police. There were too many unanswered questions we still want to know. I hope the police wake up to their crime and put Madeleine to rest in the peace she deserves. 🙏🏻
No one should ever take a polygraph, it’s pseudo science at best. Maybe she washed the toy to make bit nice for when Maddie came home, it was early days, maybe they were still deluded they find her alive. I don’t think this is as much of a smoking gun as being made out.
We, sadly, have all been in a situation where a beloved person 'leaves' us, and then we hold on to the scent of clothes/toys? that belonged to that person. Washing of that item does not come to mind! Why would Kate wash Cuddle Cat, the last thing Madeleine would have held??
Oh at last a post with some sense and sensitivity. I didn't have a computer when the child went missing and I'm sure people (like on here) would have talked about all sorts of things against the parents without a shred of evidence,
Not me. I'd never heard of this business about retaining someone's smell before this case. 'the last thing MBM would have held' . Where do you get that idea? I have seen not a shred of evidence that MBM was even aware of CC's existence.
scents/smells trigger a person's memory. Just because YOU have never heard of it, doesn't mean it isn't a thing. Just google it lol@@quantisedspace7047
My older sister befriended a girl I was in love with when I was in middle school, and brought her home for tea one afternoon. And I made sure that cup wasn't washed for weeks because I knew her lips had touched it. I have no kids of my own but I can't even imagine what I would do if I had a kid that went missing for real.
My husband died over 20 years ago & I still have the shirt he was wearing when he suddenly died. For months I slept with it because I could still smell him. I have never wash it.
The evidence has always pointed to the parents staging an 'abduction' and having guilty knowledge of her death. They have never been able to exclude themselves as suspects.
They are not regarded as suspects either by the Portuguese police, the German police or the British police. There's only one suspect and that's Christian Brueckner. It's only malicious gossip and unfounded rumour by those not well informed about the case that think otherwise. Even if Brueckner is tried and found guilty and admits it, there will still be idiots who will be mumbling the usual "I still think the Parents had something to do with it" rubbish.
@@ZaphodBeeb1 Don't patronise me. It is neither 'malicious gossip' nor is it being 'not well informed' which leads to this conclusion. I followed this case from Day 1. Gerry and Kate McCann fled Portugal the minute they were declared suspects, being unable to exclude themselves with their 'ludicrous' (to use Kate McCann's favourite word) and inconsistent stories. The German and British police are irrelevant; Kate and Gerry McCann never excluded themselves as suspects on Portuguese soil where the crime was committed. The investigation was shelved due to their refusal to co-operate, and that is where it has stayed. They have never been able to explain the findings from the cadaver dog and blood dog. Kate 'ludicrously' claiming that she was wearing the trousers the dogs alerted to when attending to (and apparently being in awfully close proximity to) fully six dead bodies shortly before their holiday. And Cuddle Cat was apparently officiating too, since he turned up smelling of death also. Kate never denied the smell of death on these trousers. Gerry, for his 'ludicrous' part, claimed without evidence that these dogs with 100% success were suddenly 'incredibly unreliable'. He also 'ludicrously' claimed that his 2 year old son had recently taken a liking to seabass, almost as if he was anticipating the investigation finding the smell of death in their car, and was frantically looking up the internet, trying to come up with a plausible explanation. Again, not denying the evidence - desperately trying to find some sort of plausible explanation instead. (A 2-year-old suddenly liking seabass, at the very time his parents were about to be told that cadaver scent had been found in their car?? Do me a favour.) The evidence points to her parents having guilty knowledge of her death. That is a fact, and neither malicious gossip nor being ill-informed.
@@lornarettig3215 You weren’t being patronised, you were being CRITICISED for not being “well informed” and using gossip in your comment. To state that the German Police and the British police are irrelevant, is just a desperate attempt to exclude the German police investigation and demonstrates your blinkered view of the case. Kate and Gerry left Portugal in early September 2007, approximately 4 months after Madeleine disappeared. The very fact that they were declared as suspects at that stage with no evidence against them, meant that the PJ police were floundering on the case, and the McCanns no longer trusted them. Judging by the appalling criminal records of some of the PJ detectives and Goncalo Amaral himself which became known later, then the McCanns were wise not to trust them. Contrary to what you said in your comment, Kate and Gerry did not have to exclude themselves as suspects (arguidos) because the Portuguese prosecutors in their Legal Summary of the case, stated that “in reality none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated.” Also contrary to what you claimed, the Prosecutors in the Legal Summary stated that they archived the process concerning arguidos Gerald McCann and Kate Healy (also Robert Murat), because there were no indications of the practice of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 No. 1 of the penal process code. (Not just no evidence, but no indications of any crime ! ) The case wasn’t archived until 11 months after the McCanns left Portugal. Contrary to what you said in your comment, Gerry and Kate McCann do not have to explain the findings of the cadaver dog and the blood dog, because those findings were not confirmed by DNA analysis as required. Also the way in which the handler conducted the dog search was criticised in an independent report (PJ Files), by members of the Portuguese Criminal Investigation Department who viewed the video. They asked why the dog is seen to pass more than once past the objects in an uninterested way before he finally signals it, after he has already passed it several times. Quote from the report ; “ On one of the films, it is possible to see that Eddie sniffs Madeleine’s cuddle cat more than once, bites it, throws it into the air, and only after the toy is hidden does he mark it ? Why didn’t he signal it when he sniffs it first time?” Under the circumstances described, the alert on cuddle cat cannot be taken seriously. There is no evidence that Eddie, the cadaver dog, found the smell of death in the car because the dog alerts for blood as well as cadaver scent. He only alerted to the car key fob inside the car, which had blood on it as confirmed by Keela, and only Gerry’s DNA was identified there. The cadaver dog did not alert anywhere else inside the car including inside the boot. If the dog didn’t alert inside the boot then then that’s evidence that there wasn’t a body inside it. Your comment is just huff and puff, followed by bluff and blinkered opinion. If you really were serious, you’d use a serious source like the PJ Files.
@@ZaphodBeeb1 I‘m not reading your novel. The evidence has always pointed to a staged abduction and Kate and Gerry McCann having guilty knowledge of their child’s death. That is neither gossip, nor being ill-informed, nor ‚huff and puff‘ (whatever that is) nor bluff and blinkered opinion. That is the conclusion of the official investigation into the child‘s disappearance and always has been. It is not up for debate, no matter how much you want it to be. The child is dead and Kate and Gerry McCann know exactly what happened.
Why weren't they arrested for neglecting their children? I think it's because they were privileged. Who leaves their 3 year old daughter alone in a hotel?? Not me! That's crazy wrong. Unfathomable. Criminal. Anything could have happened to the children!! What if she woke up? And the twins woke up and started crying for Mommy and Daddy?? Freaking criminal in and of itself. They should have been arrested for neglect.
I think the parents are responsible. What I remember from a few years ago is a picture of the father with a group of guys and all were wearing red shoes.
Parents were always suspicious. Never trusted them. It angered me all the money the parents made/received from their daughters' disappearance 😡😡😡 Why take your children on a holiday if you are going to give them medicine and leave them just so you can spend time with your friends? Get someone to child sit them. Why was Madeline "taken" and none of the other children??
They used some of the search fund money to pay off their mortgage. That sickens me, and suggests they knew the donations were pointless in terms of finding her.
I’ve heard countless cases where people steal a child to raise as their own.. she was an adorable little girl. Someone who perhaps lost a child or couldn’t conceive may have just taken her. If they overheard the parents during the trip and pieced together a plan, played with her at the chreche to earn her trust… and/or were at the restaurant at the same time as them, they could have timed it all perfectly.
You have no evidence whatsoever that M was given medicine. In any event they would not have been able to bring liquid to airside. I'm sorry but you sound such an unpleasant person
Personally, I think the abduction story was made up in order to protect the parents from being prosecuted. I don't think they intended the death, but they also didn't want to deal with the consequences of what it meant.
The laws in Portugal isn’t like in America, where people will be put to death for something like that. An accidental death wouldn’t land them in prison. I do not think they thought this case was going to take the proportion that it did. We are still talking about her.
@@laurenmay2098 well they are British, so it would be down to whatever the law is there. To my way of thinking, they stand to lose more than just Madeline if they are found at fault. They are both doctors, aren't they? Wouldn't their practices possibly be called into question. And also there's the other children to consider. If they were found negligent in their care, it's likely the children could be taken away. Either way, the prospect of jail time and/or their livelihoods, reputations and children being taken away from them, or covering it up and avoiding that conclusion. Well, it's an interesting thought, I think. Although I would be surprised if we ever find out one way or the other.
This story is just so strange. I keep wondering if an accident occurred such as overmedication and the parents staged it as a kidnapping. Otherwise, the odds of someone slipping in the window at just the right time - it’s truly hard to believe.
If I had left my children(which I never have) - particularly bearing in mind the night before she had been awake and crying - and I then found she wasn’t in her bed, I would’ve first assumed she’d woken up and come looking for me. My first thought would not have been that she had been kidnapped. None of this has ever sat right with me
Yes. Her first words (obviously staged) were "They've taken her" rather than "I can't find madeleine" or "madeleine's not here". Patently obvious that they were trying to force the abduction story.
I sometimes wonder how often parents of children such as Madeline, Kaylee Anthony, and JonBenet, give their kids “medicine” to help them sleep deeply. And how often it turns out they gave their child too much.
In the case of Madeline, I don’t think medicine would have killed her, because I doubt her parents would have noticed/reported it in the middle of the night.. but I do think it would make it easier for someone to abduct her.
it is rumoured thats what they did to go out at nite to the pub apt. also the other kids dis not awake with all the commotion in the room. the portagese police thought that calpol was giving 2 much and maddie went out of the room dizzy and fell from the sofa it was a theory it was on a documentary i watched.
No DNA on the cuddle cat. It is so suspicious. I think the McCanns washed it. I mean she had it from when she was a baby and also they had to collect DNA in England. I wish they could take in the parents again for questioning. Open up the case and start from square 1 is the only way to find the truth in my opinion.
So incredibly grateful for mine. They are the absolute opposite of the Tapas 7 and thanks to them, I reached adulthood-and an age at which I could truly appreciate how they protected me.
Really, let me remind you that medicated her with benadryl so they could go out. The mother went back to check on her and she was gone. God bless Madeline!!
Absolutely the best, Nick does separated himself from others by his analysis. If he was like others he would be in the million followers right now. I don’t take this lightly, because I do want it him to be known by everybody. But people do not want it to think, do they? By the way, I am not a great thinker, I am glued to him so I can learn more and more.
Have been suspicious of the parents from the beginning, the way the mother was able to function and walk around being photographed, walking towards a church like she was Madonna , not answering numerous questions at the time (you would answer anything to find your daughter) everything about her shouted she knew something. The husband was to in control and arrogant. Most of all why only take Madeline when there were 2 other younger children, and why in the world would you leave your most precious assets in a room you had no eye on to go and have a dinner. Something happened and they all know and have made a pact together to never reveal anything have thought that from the beginning. Gerry is the one in control I would imagine at home as well. Also how the hell do you write a novel on your daughters abduction, and it’s amazing how she remembers the sheet being turned over in a triangle, how would you remember anything that minute, it makes me so angry that the police believe everything they have said, and continue to spend all this money. Ben needham who disappeared in Greece I think, never got this much publicity or money spent looking for him. I would like to know why. Her mother washed the cat days after her abduction.
@@johnniethepom7545 I believe she died on 28th April. The day they arrived in P de L. And not from an overdose! But from a violent blow. I think he was pissed from the flight, Madeleine was being boisterous, and he whacked her one, and that knocked her flying.........
@@stevefowler3398 There is a witness to having seen Madeleine at lunch time on 29th, I think the witness was considered to be reliable (an employee of the hotel). I think she died some time on Sunday afternoon/evening. That gave them 4 days to conceal her body and come up with their stupid, totally unevidenced kidnapping fable.
Hi, thankyou for covering this, ive been saying this from the very beginning. Why would a so called abductor take the time to remove the toy before taking the child. Surely they would just grab and go, meaning either Madeline was still holding it or it would be on the bed. Something not right with this case. Definitely a cover up. Poor child 😢
Blood splatter on the cat would have shown an incident had happened in that room. Hence wash it to remove that evidence. The abduction theory was done to move attention away from the flat. It seems clear that the child died in that flat, most likely from an accidental overdose of sleeping medication, most likely given to make the children sleep heavily while the parents were out drinking, knowing the other children could also be taken away if parental neglect like this were exposed. The key is to google the 48 questions they refused to answer in case they incriminated themselves. Once you read that and realise the parents refused to answer the questions that could have helped find the child if she was still alive, as they knew she was not alive, it all falls into place. Ever since they have spent their time blocking accusations against them, instead of using those funds to look for the child.
I reckon they're trying to disguise how furious they are they their ridiculous 'abduction because I say so' story is roundly laughed at and disbelieved. Including by the official police report. You can see Gerry getting really angry sometimes because people don't buy his nonsense.
People grieve in different ways and M's mother I am sure has shed many a tear. When parents in the UK and probably Spain are asking for their child to be returned, they are advised by the police to appear calm as possible when asking their child to be returned because some child abductors actually got a kind of thrill from seeing grieving parents. How bad is that.
I have a friend who had Kate as her Doctor, years ago my friend took her young daughter to see her ,Kate was cold dismissive to her concerns and was off hand ,she never went to her again. 😑
Some people, to be a doctor must to be cold. I don’t think nothing of that fact. Most of my doctors are just like that. I once had a doctor with some kind of feelings like a human, lol, but not many, lol.
My Doctor is very to the point ,but he has great empathy and he allows you to have an opinion on your treatment, he also treats you as a individual he is not cold or dismissive ,he's one in a million ,other are not up to his standard, I don't believe to be a good Doctor you have to be cold and have no empathy, that is not a good Doctor !!!!😑
If was a fatal accident in front of them (fall from the couch), then of course they would call the ambulance. In the event of an accident (falling off the couch), where they were not present, they would not do this, because the time of death no longer corresponds and the body was probably already cool. An investigation in the hospital would then show that sleeping pills had been given. It is also possible is that it was not an accident, but that one of the parents killed the child in a rage.
I thought that Kate had said, that Madeleine had said the morning she disappeared, why hadn’t Kate come, the night before, when she and one of the twins was crying? What parent, even parent guilty of neglect, would still go out , after this?
Right - that 'setting the scene' nonsense that Kate McCann came up with to support their 'abduction because I say so' narrative didn't really work as well as she thought it would, did it?
@@katiekane5247they were not wealthy! What wealthy people go to a crappy WARNERS HOLIDAY CAMP? Wealthy people would go to (SAY) Tuscany. Or St Trop. Or Corfu...... Not Praia de Luz!
We do not know whether MBM really did say this. Think about it: it's an odd thing for a parent to admit to, given they have admitted to abandoning them anyway. However, it /is/ a beneficial thing for then to admit, despite the abandonment, because it points to MBM still being present and alive at that point. This is just another in a long list of KMH's backfilling: she says 'Y happened, because of X' but gives no justification for X; some people are just stupid enough to accept that X must be true, even though there is no independent evidence for either X or Y to be true.
@@quantisedspace7047 the context and actual words seem too advanced for a 4 year old. But firstly, IF the McScams did drink the amounts they say they did, in the time they say they did, they would both surely be too hungover too take notice of what a child is saying. Most people would be sick as dogs after that amount of alcohol. And secondly, it does suggest that they are alcoholics. Which accounts for why HE fires blanks, and she cannot remember things clearly. And thirdly, why they are such irrisponsible bad parents.
These days many of us realises that i a case like this, the family are looked at first. If this had been me, I would've volunteered to take a polygraph test, so as to not waste precious time in trying to find my child. From the start this made me feel uncomfortable, especially when high profile politicians stepped in, nothing like this happened when toddler Ben Needham was abducted from Kos in 1991.
If you 'love the intertextualities', have you come across the Peter James Cullen take on this case ? His stuff is difficult to find, but he shows how this whole McCircus is just one intertextual reference after another, implying that the whole thing is an elaborate work of fiction, created for the benefit of people in the know.
The McCanns delivered Madeline into the arms of her abductor through sedation, and she was unable to struggle or protest; hence the parents obvious guilt and regret. That's the conclusion I leaned toward initially. But over time, the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests she died in that apartment. I imagine it went down something like this: The McCanns approached some of their friends and revealed that Madeline has passed away through negligence. They either tell the truth to local authorities, face the consequences of being locked up for many years and risk loosing custody of their other children, OR, with their friends' assistance, they can conceal the true manner in which Madeline had perished and invent a fictitious abduction story-one that had to be broadcast loudly to other guests from the outset: "She's been abducted!" After all, they had already faced the greatest penalty for their selfish decision making.
@@colleenshea2293 There are many documented cases of people forging friendships or bonds so close that this other individual would, through longstanding connection, affection or empathy, assist said friend thought a desperate situation. People provide alibis and worse.
@@TelltaleBytes I think it's possible the McCanns had something on the people who were in on what happened, so that no one dare tell on any other. Remember that story that was told about one of the men in that group and how he talked about Madeleine.
@@TelltaleBytes I think she’s actually saying it would be unbelievably rare to find a group of friends who would agree to this sort of thing. At least and probably more than one of them would have said this is wrong and refuse. The more collaborators, the less likely the secret is kept.
Why were they never sent 2 prison for abandoning there 3 kids on holiday if that was any other mother or father they would be in deep trouble for neglect
I find it hard to believe that a 3 year old would talk in that way. Most 3 year olds can't remember what they did from one day to another, they live very much in the present. She would not have been able to articulate that it was the best day ever at that age, she wouldn't know how it compared to previous days, she would only be able to say yes to "have you had a good day?" Most 3 year olds language skills are still very immature at 3 years of age.
Yes. Kate said what she would have wanted her children to say, described what kind of children she would have wanted her children to be. Children are dolls to Kate. Not there own persons with own feelings and will. She doesn't like the normal everyday life with responsibilities with children. She gave the twins to other people to take care of a lot in Portugal and in UK after Madeleine's disappearance.
How can you ask "Why would you kidnap a 3 yr old?" Even though it's disgusting, In a world full of pedos & weirdos it's not surprising. Sadly, many little ones are abused. We even had a case of an 18 mth old SA'd & murdered near us!😈
Yes, they are kidnapped, and the world is full of child pedo's. Imo, I find it odd to kidnap a 3 year-old out of a hotel type condominium. Like Nick pointed out, crying, etc. I think a kidnapper would definitely pick an easier spot to kidnap from. He/she would have the risk of neighbors and other guests spotting the abduction. Jmo.
It's actually extremely rare. That you are convinced it happens all the time, stranger abductions of very small children, shows the PR surrounding this case has done its damage.
It's very surprising and extremely rare for a young child to be abducted from her bed by a stranger. It certainly never happened before or since in Praia da Luz or even in Portugal
It definitely does happen, but it’s rare. To kidnap from a residence is not a strategy most criminals would use-a shrieking young child could wake neighbors, etc. But considering that the parents left the kids recurrently, and that the kids were away at the daycare all day with other adults-VERY possible that one such rare creep realized it wouldn’t be a struggle at all. These neglectful “parents” really did make it easy. That said, if course, what evidence was there of an abduction? In this case, no evidence found. It remains a possibility, but it is extremely rare for an intruder to leave no evidence behind.
@@neecie9075 I agree. I have suspicions regarding the parents. Possibly a covered accident or accidental overdose of sleep meds? It's true that it's a risk where there are more people, yet if they DID cover up her death somehow they managed to do so in a crowded place. If the world was a safe place we wouldn't have such a crisis with child p. How many abuses occur in poor countries & never get reported? Sadly many crimes are perpetrated by a family member or "friend".
She washed cuddle cat because she knew that no intruder had handled it. For their intruder story to work, it needed DNA on it. Washing it allowed her to effectively say: 'Silly me. I shouldn't have washed it. I've washed the intruder's DNA away.
Madelaine was never abducted. Washing cuddly toy says it all and cadaver dogs says it all, plus they neglected their children ,no charges for that either i hope the truth comes out so maddie can rest in peace. And there is no witnesses of proof or witnesses that madelaine was seen 2 days before it happened so there was enough time to get rid of all the tracks those 2 are the most unemotional people I have ever seen other people I saw that have a child missing they are desperate they even dint bother to look for maddie.And the first interview taken 3 weeks after maddie went missing they talked like maddie was missing for 10 years.And the way they were protected by the government is another story.And if that german man was responsible they even dint bother to go talk to him other parents would out of desperation of trying to find out what happened to their missing child.
As a down to earth, intuitive mum myself this whole thing stunk from day 1. And it stinks even more now all these years later. How the McCanns live with themselves I'll never know. Fishy beyond belief.
Madeleine had a blue comfort blanket and that had disappeared being suggested that it was kept with her to keep her calm.....reasonable enough I suppose.....unfortunately, in the initial police fotos pf the apartment,there it is lying on her bed...Missed that one Kate...
When my cat went missing for a week, I couldn't focus on anything else. How the McCanns could jog and play tennis the day after their daughter went missing is alarming. As long as there is a chance the child is alive one would look for it. The whole town participated in the search except for the parents.
@@miramataija1628 u are spot on ! …. I was speaking to my daughter after seen a TT video of them at a party last week ….. most people say the are allowed to get on with their life . My daughter same age as maddie would be and she said would u be still looking for me ….. I said am still looking for maddie so if it was u I’d still be digging every part Portugal up ! Fact ! Nobody would stop me till the day I died ! I have no idea how km can live with herself! If she got hit by bus or had heart attack tomorrow , she’s willing to die without coming clean & putting that child to rest ! ……. If I done it I’ve have to tell the truth so I could put the child to rest & id feel I’d have to tell truth before I meet my maker ! The minute her other kids turned 16 she should of handed herself in !
I think the Mcanns are horrible parents!! I think Maddie died from the parents neglect, she had an accident when think left the kids alone to go have tapas and socialize, then the parents covered it up after they got rid of Maddies body. The cadaver dogs alerted. The dogs were right on the mark.
I think they did conceal her body, and then in front of the world, they managed to dispose of her in a water well. This is where there arrogance comes in. Because they have got away with it ,they grow more confident each year. In an interview, Kate actually says it herself ,but trying to be flippint about it. She Cleary states ,they hid her so well,that they managed to get rid of her body ,so well,infront of the media,they did this so well,that nobody noticed ." I myself think it's indirect confession.
cuddle cat was washed? what? sounds similar to Summer wells story my opinion both these children lived in hell. within the walls of where these two little girls lived hold the answers. there is One family member that knows where these poor little babies are. Justice will be served. great findings 🙏 thank you for not giving up!
I always wondered why Kate would carry cuudle cat around ?. Obviously for the cameras, and to evoke our emotions.Why wash it?. Same as the Marylin case, the maid washed the sheets soon after, why ?.
How is it possible that the dogs did not alert the bed and bedroom if she slept there a few nights? Makes me wonder if whatever happened to Madeleine happened days earlier than claimed. Would have given them a few days to dispose of her perhaps in the missing tennis bag and a sail in the ocean and wash her sheets....perhaps that's why nothing was found in the children's bedroom.
@@laurenmay2098 ….well there was funny business with the logs at the nursery….nothing clear…and another little girl in the party was often mistaken for Maddie….there is no independent witness to her existence those few last days…I think she was accidentally overdosed and died and she is either at the bottom of the sea or on church grounds…remember that priests have a duty of confidentiality like the masons. The whole party of their friends are shady in my opinion…one of them saying he watched the McCann children being bathed at 6pm sounds like a story..why. ?
@@lizmacrae4970 yes was it David Payne sucking his finger asking Gerry if Maddie did that...The friends, the Gaspar's can forward claiming they overheard this conversation and that the men, of this group had a habit of bathing each other's children.Mrs. Gaspar told her Mr. under no circumstance was any one to bathe their children and reported what they witnessed. Yes, the whole of tapas is shady.
@@ruthx3346 yes, ok that makes sense about the cadaver dogs....but the missing tennis bag was widely reported....I can't post the link but it was sky news - new lines in Madeline McCann hunt....was the title. They clearly report this missing blue tennis bag.
Nothing in the McCanns ever changing version of what happened to Madeleine adds up. How many versions has Kate presented with regards to Madeleine's crying story. "Why didn't you come when I and Sean were crying last night... why didn't you come when I cried last night...etc. All versions are in the adult language, still Kate and Gerry took it as a "passing remark", nothing to worry about or nothing to take seriously. One may ask how many similar comments there are, which their eldest daughter have made, all of which may have been completely ignored by her parents ??????
@@stevefowler3398 Mrs Fenn who occupied the apartment above the McCanns' apartment claimed that a child in the McCanns' apartment had been crying for 2 hours, and that was two days before Madeleine went missing, so that night at least there were no half hours checking and most likely no other nights as far as I'm concerned.
Did Gerry go to play tennis the following day?. If so why? Was it to remove potential evidence from the scene in a kit bag whilst foresics were beong carried out? Also jogging? Easy to dispose of some tablets from ones pockets on a beach run or down a drain... Were the drains to apartment and the tennis club checked? Bins?
Also, allegedly, it was far from 'the best day'. Kate and Gerry had had a tough day as Kate was very upset with Gerry who had been overly flirtatious with the attractive water aerobics instructor the night before. Kate had slept in the children's room that night and several things point to tension between them the following day (Kate went for a solo run, David Payne had paid a visit to Kate early evening - could have been trying to mediate). Madeleine was probably anxiously anticipating her parents going out again, Gerry's patience threshold was probably very low. It's possible they left her not asleep but in full tantrum and she had a fatal accident soon after they left.
@@ruthx3346 Hey, Ruth 😃 I was a JB follower for a while but unsubscribed after reading his incredibly rude responses to people's well-thought-out questions. There are a number of anomalies in his episodes but he got very shirty when people politely asked for clarification. However, you're right, I still carry a lot of his view. Thank you for your in-depth reply - I don't quite follow the latter part (JB would call me something for that) but I'm sure it makes sense. I just wish they would go back and start the investigation again. Thank you again for taking the time to give your thoughts😄
@@ruthx3346 pj has a picture of that blue bag Gerry, don’t try to confuse the world, people are reading the pj files and seeing all your interviews “ask the dogs Sandra” and the rest
I think I remember there being evidence at the time that Cuddle Cat was washed. Anyone who has followed this story never expected any evidence to be found at the Reservoir. Too bad the abandoned mines in O Bispo can't be searched...
@@KarsonLowe Too deep and dangerous. Gerry's phone pinged in O Bispo just before Eddie and Keela, the amazing cadaver dogs were brought in. They alerted to his car, Cuddle Cat, Kate's clothing, plus numerous places in the apartment.
But.... And it is a very big BUT. This was their first trip to P de L. And it was only a short break, off season holiday. How would they know about disused mineshafts? Or reservoirs? Or city dumps? Or where to buy a replacement fridge? Or where the sea was deepest? Or how to gain the trust of the local priest? There just wasn't enough time. Not between jogging, tennis and evening tappas bar dinings? They MUST have had local help. Clement Freud was a close friend (?). He had a house in P de L. And was connected to local people.
@@stevefowler3398 Answer. They are a weird pair. Freud has been suspected for a long time of paedophaelia. Rightly or wrong I don't know . Yet the McCanns choose to accept an invitation to his mansion nearby,a week after Maddie's disappearance. Kate said the dinner was delicious. In her position I wouldn't have been able to swallow a mouthful.
Exactly. I've been saying this for years. Madeleine had likely never even seen CuddleCat. Never on any of the photographs. Never figured on drawings at the children's club. CC was pressed into service as a McGuffin, to 'prove' the abduction hypothesis. For this to be true, CC had to now become 'her favourite'. This, KMH does, by simple dint of asserting '..was her favourite, so she must have been abducted' without giving any evidence for the clause preceding 'so'. This sort of backfilling seems to be a constant thing with KMH.
There's too much in your posting for me to reply to in one go, but this: I am not suggesting that the McCs purchased CC on holiday. It is well reported that this group met up at sporadic times. It is fairly common for friends of the family to buy birthday presents for children, but give said presents to the parents for safekeeping until the actual birthday, by which time Payne would have gone home. It was reported at the time that CC was left on a high shelf. It was around the same time that it was reported that CC was a birthday present. Obviously, 'being reported' doesn't make it true but I've always worked on the principle that people in thus situation weave together a narrative from things that did actually happen, but in different places, and in different time orders. It is by unravelling these that I come to my conclusions. As you point out, there were no high shelves in the apartment. But, this is another of my contentions:that most of the action took place elsewhere than 5A. Based on the relative sizes of the rooms, I would posit that that apartment was that of the Paynes. As far as I know, we've never seen a picture of the interior of any other apartment which is odd, because it was known that they were all in a group and (at the time) the involvement of other T7 people was a viable possibility. I'd like to explain how my thought processes work but, truth be told, I really don't know. It's just the way my brain works. If you know anybody who has the capability to investigate my thought processes (hypnosis, MRI, whatever), I'm willing to participate. In any case, I'm not too fond of 'evidence' in the traditional sense, as I've found out that in cases where deception us part of that case, the only valid evidence is meta-evudence. E.g. the fact that such'n''such a newspaper reported X is far more important than X itself, the truth/falsity of X being a secondary issue. I have no interest in prosecuting the McCanns or anyone else; I just want to build a plausible picture of what could have happened, and then seek conventional evidence to support/refute it
I would be strange for a 4 year old to not let go of a toy. It could be a PR strategy. I don't think Kate is attached to CC when there is no journalist nearby.
Gerry was the last one to see MM alive, by the time Kate got there MM was missing or so they say?. What was Gerry doing every time he disappeared and was the meal that was ordered but wasn’t eaten Gerry’s? It seems Gerry was away from the table more than Kate. And what of the other guy that checked on his kids and the McCanns kids ? Did he do something to MM and the McCanns covered it up because they had an arrangement of some sort?. What of the tennis bag that went missing? Did the McCanns have an explanation as to what happened to it?.
I believe it was said that GM checked on them that he was talking longer than usual as there was a footy match on TV and the group said that's probably why he was taking so long..... He could have hurt/killed Maddie and staged the whole thing. In my opinion both parents are guilty. There are to many inconsistencies, they never got the story straight. Something definitely not right here. I'm wondering if they made a habit of leaving the children home alone in the UK while they went out to Dinner. ??
We have the roll shutters also and I can tell you, there's noway to push them up from outside, because they automaticcaly block themselves, so that can't happen. That's how I know she is lying, even if the window was slightly open!
Something that's always got me is the way it's mostly the mother that does the interviews, whilst he sits in the background looking down his nose all the time
The dog is also in the highest regards, such an an specific Swat team. The dog has never ever failed to trace blood/human blood, find bodies etc. I am utterly convinced that, the little girl is back in England somewhere. She had very unique eys, both are doctors. They both know the laws in and out. Gerry overdosed the young girl, then covered up. And higher powers , sadly have intervened. There was suspicious and deleted phone calls. The only way anyone can cover up that mess, is if they have higher powers, in specific laws. And also they are still getting " money" WHY? WHYYY?
I remember when this happened and l am sure cuddle cat was found on top of a wardrobe. I don't understand why there was no dna on the cat as Kate would have handled it taking it down from wardrobe.l never suspected them could Kate live for 16 years knowing that they were responsible and millions has been spent looking for her.Someone said they paid their mortgage off with donations.
It's funny that these people always have reverse memory. When someone points out a flaw in their lie, they suddenly remember more details as time passes
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To me, the way they reacted to the dogs smelling blood and cadaver is very telling. They immediately discounted the dogs instead of getting upset that that might mean their baby was hurt or dead , they got defensive . Very very suspicious.
They're guilty. The only way that will be admitted is after they stop having friends in high places
Didn't they clean the toy almost imediately too? You just would NEVER do that if your child went missing - you would want their smell on their toy still to comfort you.
To be honest, if I was presented with this as a parent I would be in denial too.
Well several people lived in the apartment before and after the McCanns, also those dogs don’t look for dead people but for dead meat, by itself it’s not a proof anyone died in the apartment, UK and German police agreed on that, but you Karen you still find it suspicious. Maybe do your own research, maybe develop your critical thinking because there is actual facts that explain what you find so weird. They also have proofs that they didn’t do anything and that someone else did it, they have proofs the man killed Madeleine, but you still there accusing the parents….. at this point it’s known the parents are innocents.
@@yallneedjesus5465German police said they know who did it and they have proofs, probably video recording it’s not the parents, shame on you.
I thought the mom admitted to washing cuddle cat. Which is odd in my opinion. If it was my baby missing, I would never ever wash it. I would keep it close and smell it in case it still smelled like my child.
Exactly
Well - you are not her!
Spot on
She did washed, I do t remember what was the reason she gave to do it, but she did washed.
The toy cat was washed a few weeks after the event, she’d been carrying it around with her constantly
McCanns belong in jail.
Forever !!!
if it happened to someone that didn't have connections to a government official they be in prison for neglect just saying, since day one I have said the parents know more than they let on why are they interviewed separately. i smell a cover-up i really do ruclips.net/video/oWrd9ZIhKXg/видео.html
That's too humane for these evil bastards
@@leaveherwild9979Lol I totally agree 👍
They seem to be self-centered “It’s all about ME!” people. Aka, Narcissists in the _true_ sense of the word.
Child negligence is a crime that they got away with wether they killed her or not
Maddie cried over an hour but the Tapas Gang claimed to be checking every 15 or 30 minutes. Someone is lying!
Maddy mum didn’t let that cat leave her hands after Maddy went missing, she carried it everywhere. Police wanted to take cuddle cat, probably for examination. Baring in mind Maddy mum said she was holding on to the cat because it reminded her of Maddy and it still had maddies smell, so why did she go and wash cuddle cat before handing it to police? Who would do that?
@@ruthx3346 Have you seen the body language experts video assessment of their interview?
Yes! And they are all confident that the McCanns are innocent and we're not deceitful in interviews, etc. Confusing!
A guilty woman covering her tracks
@@jilly2532 I know right?
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IF cadaver dog(s) alerted in their villa, I believe the dogs. I trained and raised both service & cadaver dogs for decades...their noses are astonishing.
Cadaver dogs alerted both in the villa and in the boot of the parents' rental car
@@ThisIsAbstractI thought so! Thx for the clarification. ❤
We had a Springer Spaniel (not trained cadaver), and his abilities were absolutely amazing!
There was Maddie’s hair in there, and maybe saliva. But forensics at that time wasn’t that strong yet, I suppose. The case was butchered by the Portuguese police.
@@laurenmay2098 Incompetent Portuguese police was a myth started by the McCanns on the very night Madeleine allegedly disappeared. Guilty people often try and discredit the police who are investigating their crimes.
I don't know why exactly, i just have always felt she died in the parents' care and they disposed of the body.
Well - you don't know !
Well - you don't know !
Before the dinner, right? That’s my impression as well. Since they found her body fluids and her in the trunk of the rental car.
@@colleenshea2293 We know Madeleine was not abducted. In 16 years there has not been an iota of evidence of abduction. British police can't find any although they've been looking for the last 12 years. Portuguese police know the McCanns are involved in their daughter's disappearance. I don't know what Wolters and the German police are doing? Making themselves look like prats I would think!
She probably died a day or two before, giving them time to bury her somewhere faraway. They pretended to go and check on the sleeping children, and found Maddie was gone. That was their alibi....
Nobody to blame but her parents,i mean who leaves there kids alone in a differnet country while they go out for food and drinks?Dodgy.
So you would leave your children with the door open in a hotel in the UK?
Arrest them, I’m sick and tried of these people raking in millions at the demise of their daughter!! All fingers point to them! Millions of children go missing every year and they don’t get this media attention. And the comment she made in her book about maddies genitalia is beyond disgusting and disturbing!
To be fair, the children being left alone, although negligent, had nothing to do with Madeleine's disappearance. She was already dead and gone by the Thursday night. The parents had no choice but to "admit" to neglecting their children. It was a lesser evil than admitting they had hidden her body.
You don't leave kids alone even in your home country.
I think that the Portuguese police were 100%correct. The lot of them should have been charged with negligence. Why did the prime minister run across to hold their hands? You have to ask yourself what would have happened if any of the normal working class had refused the child sitting services, and gone off to a restaurant down the road. One of the children was ill. Would you have left your child? Would you have let a male workmate bath your child?
Agree with you there.
Can't mess with the tourist market!!!
@@sophiabright8371 what are you saying the Portuguese police didn't want to charge the McCanns because it would ruin the tourism in praia da luz?
With respect Sheila, the restaurant was inside the complex.. I agree about never leaving your children alone though, especially so young! I wouldn't be able to eat or settle if it was me.. Lots of folk take the children out in the evening, European people are very good with children. A buggy for M & a double one for the twins? Kids would have dozed off there, outside. Perhaps they kind of *knew they would sleep through in the apartment????
@@emmsue1053 the restaurant was down the street and round the corner there was a babysitting service which was declined.
I saw the older first interviews with the Mcanns and also their family in the UK. They said the windows were 'jammied' and the predator came through the window that the predator had broken. Then, their storey changed. No evidence of any window being broken was present. The storey then came to be that they left the door unlocked. The first storey being changed seamed odd.
So, one wrinkle that has recently jumped out to me is Kate's TV re-enactment of her discovery that Madeleine was missing. She says: "The bedroom door where the 3 children were sleeping was open much further than we’d left it. I went to close it to about here, and then as it got to here, it suddenly slammed, and then as I opened it, it was then that I just thought, I’ll look at the children." This means that: 1. She entered the apartment and noticed the door was more ajar than usual, (but assumed Matt had left it like that). 2. Went to close the door. 3. Only thought to look at the children after the door had slammed. This is the problem. WHY? Wouldn't you: 1. enter apartment, notice door. 2. ENTER THE ROOM. Why did she go to close the door before going inside? It just doesn't work. It points strongly to fabrication.
To play devils advocate, the parents were drinking alcohol. Acting logically and alcohol don't mix.
@TGS fair point. But then again, "looking at the children" was the sole reason for her trip. But hazy recall could well be the reason. Thank you for playing devil's "avocado" 😈🥑 ☺️
Or, I guess it points to her having no intention of entering the room, checking they're all there, breathing, you know, typical parent checks. Perhaps listening outside the door was their idea of checking.
Yes and if the eindow wS ooen why didnt the door slam before she entered? Why wasnt rhe door alreasy ahut due to the wind x
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Kate washed the cuddle cat so no DNA. These two never took a polygraph test or answered any proper questions to police. There were too many unanswered questions we still want to know. I hope the police wake up to their crime and put Madeleine to rest in the peace she deserves. 🙏🏻
A big tell on herself.Washing the cuddle cat.
No one should ever take a polygraph, it’s pseudo science at best. Maybe she washed the toy to make bit nice for when Maddie came home, it was early days, maybe they were still deluded they find her alive. I don’t think this is as much of a smoking gun as being made out.
Actually, Kate McCann refused to answer any of the police questions except one.
Why do you think you have the right to know - the fact is you don't - not at all You are very muddled in your thinking
@katewells7670 who are you referring to? And considering your loitering around a true crime channel. Appears you are the one muddled.
WHY WHY WHY do parents not get charged with neglect and imprisoned when their children "go missing"?!
I think Gerry being a mason has something to do with it…remember that they swear to help each other even in criminal matters….on pain of death..
They would of been sent to Portuguese prisons! Lost their prestigious jobs and their other children!
And they had connections with Gordon Brown, prime minister of the UK.@@lizmacrae4970
We, sadly, have all been in a situation where a beloved person 'leaves' us, and then we hold on to the scent of clothes/toys? that belonged to that person. Washing of that item does not come to mind! Why would Kate wash Cuddle Cat, the last thing Madeleine would have held??
Oh at last a post with some sense and sensitivity. I didn't have a computer when the child went missing and I'm sure people (like on here) would have talked about all sorts of things against the parents without a shred of evidence,
Not me. I'd never heard of this business about retaining someone's smell before this case.
'the last thing MBM would have held' . Where do you get that idea? I have seen not a shred of evidence that MBM was even aware of CC's existence.
scents/smells trigger a person's memory. Just because YOU have never heard of it, doesn't mean it isn't a thing. Just google it lol@@quantisedspace7047
I think that's subjective. I've washed some items and some I've not.
My older sister befriended a girl I was in love with when I was in middle school, and brought her home for tea one afternoon. And I made sure that cup wasn't washed for weeks because I knew her lips had touched it. I have no kids of my own but I can't even imagine what I would do if I had a kid that went missing for real.
My husband died over 20 years ago & I still have the shirt he was wearing when he suddenly died. For months I slept with it because I could still smell him. I have never wash it.
The evidence has always pointed to the parents staging an 'abduction' and having guilty knowledge of her death. They have never been able to exclude themselves as suspects.
Her death in the apartment was either an accident or her parents sold her.
They are not regarded as suspects either by the Portuguese police, the German police or the British police. There's only one suspect and that's Christian Brueckner. It's only malicious gossip and unfounded rumour by those not well informed about the case that think otherwise. Even if Brueckner is tried and found guilty and admits it, there will still be idiots who will be mumbling the usual "I still think the Parents had something to do with it" rubbish.
@@ZaphodBeeb1 Don't patronise me. It is neither 'malicious gossip' nor is it being 'not well informed' which leads to this conclusion. I followed this case from Day 1. Gerry and Kate McCann fled Portugal the minute they were declared suspects, being unable to exclude themselves with their 'ludicrous' (to use Kate McCann's favourite word) and inconsistent stories. The German and British police are irrelevant; Kate and Gerry McCann never excluded themselves as suspects on Portuguese soil where the crime was committed. The investigation was shelved due to their refusal to co-operate, and that is where it has stayed.
They have never been able to explain the findings from the cadaver dog and blood dog. Kate 'ludicrously' claiming that she was wearing the trousers the dogs alerted to when attending to (and apparently being in awfully close proximity to) fully six dead bodies shortly before their holiday. And Cuddle Cat was apparently officiating too, since he turned up smelling of death also. Kate never denied the smell of death on these trousers. Gerry, for his 'ludicrous' part, claimed without evidence that these dogs with 100% success were suddenly 'incredibly unreliable'. He also 'ludicrously' claimed that his 2 year old son had recently taken a liking to seabass, almost as if he was anticipating the investigation finding the smell of death in their car, and was frantically looking up the internet, trying to come up with a plausible explanation. Again, not denying the evidence - desperately trying to find some sort of plausible explanation instead. (A 2-year-old suddenly liking seabass, at the very time his parents were about to be told that cadaver scent had been found in their car?? Do me a favour.)
The evidence points to her parents having guilty knowledge of her death. That is a fact, and neither malicious gossip nor being ill-informed.
@@lornarettig3215 You weren’t being patronised, you were being CRITICISED for not being “well informed” and using gossip in your comment. To state that the German Police and the British police are irrelevant, is just a desperate attempt to exclude the German police investigation and demonstrates your blinkered view of the case.
Kate and Gerry left Portugal in early September 2007, approximately 4 months after Madeleine disappeared. The very fact that they were declared as suspects at that stage with no evidence against them, meant that the PJ police were floundering on the case, and the McCanns no longer trusted them. Judging by the appalling criminal records of some of the PJ detectives and Goncalo Amaral himself which became known later, then the McCanns were wise not to trust them.
Contrary to what you said in your comment, Kate and Gerry did not have to exclude themselves as suspects (arguidos) because the Portuguese prosecutors in their Legal Summary of the case, stated that “in reality none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated.”
Also contrary to what you claimed, the Prosecutors in the Legal Summary stated that they archived the process concerning arguidos Gerald McCann and Kate Healy (also Robert Murat), because there were no indications of the practice of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 No. 1 of the penal process code. (Not just no evidence, but no indications of any crime ! ) The case wasn’t archived until 11 months after the McCanns left Portugal.
Contrary to what you said in your comment, Gerry and Kate McCann do not have to explain the findings of the cadaver dog and the blood dog, because those findings were not confirmed by DNA analysis as required. Also the way in which the handler conducted the dog search was criticised in an independent report (PJ Files), by members of the Portuguese Criminal Investigation Department who viewed the video. They asked why the dog is seen to pass more than once past the objects in an uninterested way before he finally signals it, after he has already passed it several times.
Quote from the report ; “ On one of the films, it is possible to see that Eddie sniffs Madeleine’s cuddle cat more than once, bites it, throws it into the air, and only after the toy is hidden does he mark it ? Why didn’t he signal it when he sniffs it first time?” Under the circumstances described, the alert on cuddle cat cannot be taken seriously.
There is no evidence that Eddie, the cadaver dog, found the smell of death in the car because the dog alerts for blood as well as cadaver scent. He only alerted to the car key fob inside the car, which had blood on it as confirmed by Keela, and only Gerry’s DNA was identified there. The cadaver dog did not alert anywhere else inside the car including inside the boot.
If the dog didn’t alert inside the boot then then that’s evidence that there wasn’t a body inside it.
Your comment is just huff and puff, followed by bluff and blinkered opinion. If you really were serious, you’d use a serious source like the PJ Files.
@@ZaphodBeeb1 I‘m not reading your novel. The evidence has always pointed to a staged abduction and Kate and Gerry McCann having guilty knowledge of their child’s death. That is neither gossip, nor being ill-informed, nor ‚huff and puff‘ (whatever that is) nor bluff and blinkered opinion. That is the conclusion of the official investigation into the child‘s disappearance and always has been. It is not up for debate, no matter how much you want it to be. The child is dead and Kate and Gerry McCann know exactly what happened.
Why weren't they arrested for neglecting their children?
I think it's because they were privileged.
Who leaves their 3 year old daughter alone in a hotel?? Not me! That's crazy wrong. Unfathomable.
Criminal.
Anything could have happened to the children!! What if she woke up? And the twins woke up and started crying for Mommy and Daddy??
Freaking criminal in and of itself.
They should have been arrested for neglect.
maddy didnt wake up bc i think the parents gave per sleeping pills
Not when Gerry belongs to the Scottish Rite Lodge with Gordon Brown!
More to it than that.
The parents are responsible … they left their three very young children alone. Maddie was not abducted imo. The whole group were dodgy.
You do yourself a disservice believing your own delusional assumptions.
Yup story is so fabricated. They were all out eating and taking shifts checking on the kids !? Really odd to me
I agree. The Portuguese police know it too!
I think the parents are responsible. What I remember from a few years ago is a picture of the father with a group of guys and all were wearing red shoes.
@@vegskater1741 The Red Shoes? You think they’re all dancers?!?
Parents were always suspicious. Never trusted them. It angered me all the money the parents made/received from their daughters' disappearance 😡😡😡 Why take your children on a holiday if you are going to give them medicine and leave them just so you can spend time with your friends? Get someone to child sit them. Why was Madeline "taken" and none of the other children??
I wondered the same thing why take Madeline and not the other kids or the younger sister it doesnt make sense to me .
Exactly! The parents sicken me with their entitled BS!
They used some of the search fund money to pay off their mortgage.
That sickens me, and suggests they knew the donations were pointless in terms of finding her.
I’ve heard countless cases where people steal a child to raise as their own.. she was an adorable little girl. Someone who perhaps lost a child or couldn’t conceive may have just taken her. If they overheard the parents during the trip and pieced together a plan, played with her at the chreche to earn her trust… and/or were at the restaurant at the same time as them, they could have timed it all perfectly.
You have no evidence whatsoever that M was given medicine. In any event they would not have been able to bring liquid to airside. I'm sorry but you sound such an unpleasant person
Personally, I think the abduction story was made up in order to protect the parents from being prosecuted. I don't think they intended the death, but they also didn't want to deal with the consequences of what it meant.
That is the truth.
Correct
The laws in Portugal isn’t like in America, where people will be put to death for something like that. An accidental death wouldn’t land them in prison. I do not think they thought this case was going to take the proportion that it did. We are still talking about her.
@@laurenmay2098 well they are British, so it would be down to whatever the law is there. To my way of thinking, they stand to lose more than just Madeline if they are found at fault. They are both doctors, aren't they? Wouldn't their practices possibly be called into question. And also there's the other children to consider. If they were found negligent in their care, it's likely the children could be taken away. Either way, the prospect of jail time and/or their livelihoods, reputations and children being taken away from them, or covering it up and avoiding that conclusion. Well, it's an interesting thought, I think. Although I would be surprised if we ever find out one way or the other.
@mspointyears yep, you are right, doctors' reputation, they had a lot to lose.
This story is just so strange. I keep wondering if an accident occurred such as overmedication and the parents staged it as a kidnapping. Otherwise, the odds of someone slipping in the window at just the right time - it’s truly hard to believe.
Absolutely!!
No accident, her disposal must have been carefully planned.
It's peculiar that anyone would enter by the window when the door was unlocked.
@@ageingfast only in Gerrys imagination.
@@davidtkocz8356 yes! Over several days, and with outside assistance.
If I had left my children(which I never have) - particularly bearing in mind the night before she had been awake and crying - and I then found she wasn’t in her bed, I would’ve first assumed she’d woken up and come looking for me. My first thought would not have been that she had been kidnapped.
None of this has ever sat right with me
Yes. Her first words (obviously staged) were "They've taken her" rather than "I can't find madeleine" or "madeleine's not here". Patently obvious that they were trying to force the abduction story.
I sometimes wonder how often parents of children such as Madeline, Kaylee Anthony, and JonBenet, give their kids “medicine” to help them sleep deeply. And how often it turns out they gave their child too much.
In the case of Madeline, I don’t think medicine would have killed her, because I doubt her parents would have noticed/reported it in the middle of the night.. but I do think it would make it easier for someone to abduct her.
@@deltatango6793 there is no evidence of any abduction
Doctors can make mistakes !!!😑
it is rumoured thats what they did to go out at nite to the pub apt. also the other kids dis not awake with all the commotion in the room. the portagese police thought that calpol was giving 2 much and maddie went out of the room dizzy and fell from the sofa it was a theory it was on a documentary i watched.
Oh I didn’t realize that was a theory for all three of these cases but that makes sense. Interesting. 😔😓
Let's take a moment to appreciate our overprotective parents.
No DNA on the cuddle cat. It is so suspicious. I think the McCanns washed it. I mean she had it from when she was a baby and also they had to collect DNA in England. I wish they could take in the parents again for questioning. Open up the case and start from square 1 is the only way to find the truth in my opinion.
Amen I would rather be called a weirdo than have a missing or dead child
So incredibly grateful for mine. They are the absolute opposite of the Tapas 7 and thanks to them, I reached adulthood-and an age at which I could truly appreciate how they protected me.
Great comment
Really, let me remind you that medicated her with benadryl so they could go out. The mother went back to check on her and she was gone. God bless Madeline!!
When it's this channel covering .. I must watch and listen closely! You're awesome
Wow, thank you!
I agree it's quality content 😊
The best! 👍
Absolutely the best, Nick does separated himself from others by his analysis. If he was like others he would be in the million followers right now. I don’t take this lightly, because I do want it him to be known by everybody. But people do not want it to think, do they? By the way, I am not a great thinker, I am glued to him so I can learn more and more.
Fantastic channel indeed. 👍👍👍
There was an accident in the apartment! End of! You can guess the rest! The truth will come out one day, it always does!
Have been suspicious of the parents from the beginning, the way the mother was able to function and walk around being photographed, walking towards a church like she was Madonna , not answering numerous questions at the time (you would answer anything to find your daughter) everything about her shouted she knew something. The husband was to in control and arrogant. Most of all why only take Madeline when there were 2 other younger children, and why in the world would you leave your most precious assets in a room you had no eye on to go and have a dinner. Something happened and they all know and have made a pact together to never reveal anything have thought that from the beginning. Gerry is the one in control I would imagine at home as well. Also how the hell do you write a novel on your daughters abduction, and it’s amazing how she remembers the sheet being turned over in a triangle, how would you remember anything that minute, it makes me so angry that the police believe everything they have said, and continue to spend all this money. Ben needham who disappeared in Greece I think, never got this much publicity or money spent looking for him. I would like to know why. Her mother washed the cat days after her abduction.
It was probably blood stained.
@@stevefowler3398Cadaver scent . Madeleine died 24 - 48 hours before the abduction charade .
@@johnniethepom7545 I believe she died on 28th April. The day they arrived in P de L.
And not from an overdose! But from a violent blow. I think he was pissed from the flight, Madeleine was being boisterous, and he whacked her one, and that knocked her flying.........
@@stevefowler3398 There is a witness to having seen Madeleine at lunch time on 29th, I think the witness was considered to be reliable (an employee of the hotel). I think she died some time on Sunday afternoon/evening. That gave them 4 days to conceal her body and come up with their stupid, totally unevidenced kidnapping fable.
Hi, thankyou for covering this, ive been saying this from the very beginning. Why would a so called abductor take the time to remove the toy before taking the child. Surely they would just grab and go, meaning either Madeline was still holding it or it would be on the bed. Something not right with this case. Definitely a cover up. Poor child 😢
Blood splatter on the cat would have shown an incident had happened in that room. Hence wash it to remove that evidence. The abduction theory was done to move attention away from the flat. It seems clear that the child died in that flat, most likely from an accidental overdose of sleeping medication, most likely given to make the children sleep heavily while the parents were out drinking, knowing the other children could also be taken away if parental neglect like this were exposed. The key is to google the 48 questions they refused to answer in case they incriminated themselves. Once you read that and realise the parents refused to answer the questions that could have helped find the child if she was still alive, as they knew she was not alive, it all falls into place. Ever since they have spent their time blocking accusations against them, instead of using those funds to look for the child.
So would drugs,vomit etc …the evidence was right in front of everyone’s eyes 👀….the best way to hide something!🤷♂️💨
Yeah well they couldn't let her hairbrush be tested in Portugal if there was a chance that sedatives would be detected in her recent hair samples. 🤔
I have yet to see Madeline's parents shed a tear during these interviews - they sound very sad but never a tear.
I reckon they're trying to disguise how furious they are they their ridiculous 'abduction because I say so' story is roundly laughed at and disbelieved. Including by the official police report. You can see Gerry getting really angry sometimes because people don't buy his nonsense.
People grieve in different ways and M's mother I am sure has shed many a tear. When parents in the UK and probably Spain are asking for their child to be returned, they are advised by the police to appear calm as possible when asking their child to be returned because some child abductors actually got a kind of thrill from seeing grieving parents. How bad is that.
They were instructed not to
No that’s a point I always wondered about
@@mightymouse473not for s missing child unless they gave her away on Purpose
Criminal parents.Leaving their children alone in a hotel room to go party.
But then maybe that was the plan
Or cover story
If Maddie asked why didnt they come when they were crying,why on Earth did they leave them alone next night as well?
She was already dead by then
Basically the Child Should not have been left Alone Complete Shame on the so Called Parents ❤
Excellent episode. Very thought provoking.
I have a friend who had Kate as her Doctor, years ago my friend took her young daughter to see her ,Kate was cold dismissive to her concerns and was off hand ,she never went to her again. 😑
Some people, to be a doctor must to be cold. I don’t think nothing of that fact. Most of my doctors are just like that. I once had a doctor with some kind of feelings like a human, lol, but not many, lol.
I thought Kate was an anesthetist? Not a family doctor?
@@jackieblue6116 she went on to be a family Doctor !!!!
My Doctor is very to the point ,but he has great empathy and he allows you to have an opinion on your treatment, he also treats you as a individual he is not cold or dismissive ,he's one in a million ,other are not up to his standard, I don't believe to be a good Doctor you have to be cold and have no empathy, that is not a good Doctor !!!!😑
@@mariaevans5793 My question answered. Thanks.
Why did the parents NOT take a detector test?
Makes my stomach churn when i see Kates fake look of grief and avoiding eye contact in front of the camera
Yheres one thing we know for absolute certain. The McCann's were negligent parents.
They were negligent parents and were covering their own asses.
If was a fatal accident in front of them (fall from the couch), then of course they would call the ambulance. In the event of an accident (falling off the couch), where they were not present, they would not do this, because the time of death no longer corresponds and the body was probably already cool. An investigation in the hospital would then show that sleeping pills had been given. It is also possible is that it was not an accident, but that one of the parents killed the child in a rage.
I thought that Kate had said, that Madeleine had said the morning she disappeared, why hadn’t Kate come, the night before, when she and one of the twins was crying?
What parent, even parent guilty of neglect, would still go out , after this?
Right - that 'setting the scene' nonsense that Kate McCann came up with to support their 'abduction because I say so' narrative didn't really work as well as she thought it would, did it?
Wealthy narcissists?
@@katiekane5247they were not wealthy!
What wealthy people go to a crappy WARNERS HOLIDAY CAMP?
Wealthy people would go to (SAY) Tuscany. Or St Trop. Or Corfu......
Not Praia de Luz!
We do not know whether MBM really did say this. Think about it: it's an odd thing for a parent to admit to, given they have admitted to abandoning them anyway. However, it /is/ a beneficial thing for then to admit, despite the abandonment, because it points to MBM still being present and alive at that point.
This is just another in a long list of KMH's backfilling: she says 'Y happened, because of X' but gives no justification for X; some people are just stupid enough to accept that X must be true, even though there is no independent evidence for either X or Y to be true.
@@quantisedspace7047 the context and actual words seem too advanced for a 4 year old.
But firstly, IF the McScams did drink the amounts they say they did, in the time they say they did, they would both surely be too hungover too take notice of what a child is saying.
Most people would be sick as dogs after that amount of alcohol.
And secondly, it does suggest that they are alcoholics.
Which accounts for why HE fires blanks, and she cannot remember things clearly.
And thirdly, why they are such irrisponsible bad parents.
These days many of us realises that i a case like this, the family are looked at first. If this had been me, I would've volunteered to take a polygraph test, so as to not waste precious time in trying to find my child. From the start this made me feel uncomfortable, especially when high profile politicians stepped in, nothing like this happened when toddler Ben Needham was abducted from Kos in 1991.
Excellent episode. The absence of evidence is sometimes evidence 💯 Loved the intertextualities to the JonBenét Ramsey case.
If you 'love the intertextualities', have you come across the Peter James Cullen take on this case ? His stuff is difficult to find, but he shows how this whole McCircus is just one intertextual reference after another, implying that the whole thing is an elaborate work of fiction, created for the benefit of people in the know.
They know what they have done...the mother is controlled by the sociopathic father but she is developing a haunted look...
I know what they have done!!
Soon, the whole world will know what they have done....its beyond horrific
The McCanns delivered Madeline into the arms of her abductor through sedation, and she was unable to struggle or protest; hence the parents obvious guilt and regret. That's the conclusion I leaned toward initially. But over time, the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests she died in that apartment. I imagine it went down something like this: The McCanns approached some of their friends and revealed that Madeline has passed away through negligence. They either tell the truth to local authorities, face the consequences of being locked up for many years and risk loosing custody of their other children, OR, with their friends' assistance, they can conceal the true manner in which Madeline had perished and invent a fictitious abduction story-one that had to be broadcast loudly to other guests from the outset: "She's been abducted!" After all, they had already faced the greatest penalty for their selfish decision making.
I can't think of a single person I have met in my entire life who would back up this story as a friend !!!! Delusional.
@@colleenshea2293 There are many documented cases of people forging friendships or bonds so close that this other individual would, through longstanding connection, affection or empathy, assist said friend thought a desperate situation. People provide alibis and worse.
@@TelltaleBytes I think it's possible the McCanns had something on the people who were in on what happened, so that no one dare tell on any other. Remember that story that was told about one of the men in that group and how he talked about Madeleine.
Exactly. The friends have to stick to the story or else they are an accessory
@@TelltaleBytes I think she’s actually saying it would be unbelievably rare to find a group of friends who would agree to this sort of thing. At least and probably more than one of them would have said this is wrong and refuse. The more collaborators, the less likely the secret is kept.
There was never any evidence of there having been an abduction.
I still think she fell on her head (but then I think Summer Wells was probably taken by a bear).
Even more - not only is there an absence of evidence of an abduction, there is active evidence of a staged abduction.
@@lornarettig3215 You are right.
Why were they never sent 2 prison for abandoning there 3 kids on holiday if that was any other mother or father they would be in deep trouble for neglect
Because of their privilege and connections
From day one the truth in this case has been covered up
DAY ONE was 28th April......
Nick - if only Cuddle Cat could speak! What is going on with this case? - great analysis …❤
I find it hard to believe that a 3 year old would talk in that way. Most 3 year olds can't remember what they did from one day to another, they live very much in the present. She would not have been able to articulate that it was the best day ever at that age, she wouldn't know how it compared to previous days, she would only be able to say yes to "have you had a good day?" Most 3 year olds language skills are still very immature at 3 years of age.
Yes. Kate said what she would have wanted her children to say, described what kind of children she would have wanted her children to be. Children are dolls to Kate. Not there own persons with own feelings and will. She doesn't like the normal everyday life with responsibilities with children. She gave the twins to other people to take care of a lot in Portugal and in UK after Madeleine's disappearance.
How can you ask "Why would you kidnap a 3 yr old?" Even though it's disgusting, In a world full of pedos & weirdos it's not surprising. Sadly, many little ones are abused. We even had a case of an 18 mth old SA'd & murdered near us!😈
Yes, they are kidnapped, and the world is full of child pedo's. Imo, I find it odd to kidnap a 3 year-old out of a hotel type condominium. Like Nick pointed out, crying, etc. I think a kidnapper would definitely pick an easier spot to kidnap from. He/she would have the risk of neighbors and other guests spotting the abduction. Jmo.
It's actually extremely rare. That you are convinced it happens all the time, stranger abductions of very small children, shows the PR surrounding this case has done its damage.
It's very surprising and extremely rare for a young child to be abducted from her bed by a stranger. It certainly never happened before or since in Praia da Luz or even in Portugal
It definitely does happen, but it’s rare. To kidnap from a residence is not a strategy most criminals would use-a shrieking young child could wake neighbors, etc. But considering that the parents left the kids recurrently, and that the kids were away at the daycare all day with other adults-VERY possible that one such rare creep realized it wouldn’t be a struggle at all. These neglectful “parents” really did make it easy.
That said, if course, what evidence was there of an abduction? In this case, no evidence found. It remains a possibility, but it is extremely rare for an intruder to leave no evidence behind.
@@neecie9075 I agree. I have suspicions regarding the parents. Possibly a covered accident or accidental overdose of sleep meds? It's true that it's a risk where there are more people, yet if they DID cover up her death somehow they managed to do so in a crowded place. If the world was a safe place we wouldn't have such a crisis with child p. How many abuses occur in poor countries & never get reported? Sadly many crimes are perpetrated by a family member or "friend".
She washed cuddle cat because she knew that no intruder had handled it. For their intruder story to work, it needed DNA on it. Washing it allowed her to effectively say: 'Silly me. I shouldn't have washed it. I've washed the intruder's DNA away.
The absence of evidence is evidence in itself definitely.
Very much so
Richard D Hall has made some fantastic videos on this case
Is he the UFO guy?
I watched him too and he hit on some good points, statement analysis etc.
Richard Hall vids are superb. Amazing research on the timeline of when Maddie was last seen. He interviewed Peter hyatt as well.
Madelaine was never abducted. Washing cuddly toy says it all and cadaver dogs says it all, plus they neglected their children ,no charges for that either i hope the truth comes out so maddie can rest in peace. And there is no witnesses of proof or witnesses that madelaine was seen 2 days before it happened so there was enough time to get rid of all the tracks those 2 are the most unemotional people I have ever seen other people I saw that have a child missing they are desperate they even dint bother to look for maddie.And the first interview taken 3 weeks after maddie went missing they talked like maddie was missing for 10 years.And the way they were protected by the government is another story.And if that german man was responsible they even dint bother to go talk to him other parents would out of desperation of trying to find out what happened to their missing child.
As a down to earth, intuitive mum myself this whole thing stunk from day 1.
And it stinks even more now all these years later.
How the McCanns live with themselves I'll never know. Fishy beyond belief.
Madeleine had a blue comfort blanket and that had disappeared being suggested that it was kept with her to keep her calm.....reasonable enough I suppose.....unfortunately, in the initial police fotos pf the apartment,there it is lying on her bed...Missed that one Kate...
No body talks about the “ runs 🏃🏼♀️” they went on days after !!! Is that normal??? & where did they jog too???? To check on something perhaps???
When my cat went missing for a week, I couldn't focus on anything else. How the McCanns could jog and play tennis the day after their daughter went missing is alarming. As long as there is a chance the child is alive one would look for it. The whole town participated in the search except for the parents.
@@miramataija1628 u are spot on ! …. I was speaking to my daughter after seen a TT video of them at a party last week ….. most people say the are allowed to get on with their life . My daughter same age as maddie would be and she said would u be still looking for me ….. I said am still looking for maddie so if it was u I’d still be digging every part Portugal up ! Fact ! Nobody would stop me till the day I died ! I have no idea how km can live with herself! If she got hit by bus or had heart attack tomorrow , she’s willing to die without coming clean & putting that child to rest ! ……. If I done it I’ve have to tell the truth so I could put the child to rest & id feel I’d have to tell truth before I meet my maker ! The minute her other kids turned 16 she should of handed herself in !
My son been gone almost a year .. he left a hand print on mirror I can’t clean that mirror.. I have cleaned round it once …
Sorry for your loss.
I am sorry for your loss, I pray God gives you strength to go through this hard experience 😢
I think the Mcanns are horrible parents!! I think Maddie died from the parents neglect, she had an accident when think left the kids alone to go have tapas and socialize, then the parents covered it up after they got rid of Maddies body. The cadaver dogs alerted. The dogs were right on the mark.
"and why would that be our fault?" Gerry, re her dying from an accident. Yes that is what innocent people say Gerry...
I think they did conceal her body, and then in front of the world, they managed to dispose of her in a water well.
This is where there arrogance comes in.
Because they have got away with it ,they grow more confident each year.
In an interview, Kate actually says it herself ,but trying to be flippint about it.
She Cleary states ,they hid her so well,that they managed to get rid of her body ,so well,infront of the media,they did this so well,that nobody noticed ."
I myself think it's indirect confession.
cuddle cat was washed?
what?
sounds similar to Summer wells story
my opinion both these children lived in hell.
within the walls of where these two little girls lived hold the answers. there is One family member that knows where these poor little babies are. Justice will be served.
great findings 🙏 thank you for not giving up!
The hairbrush they wanted to test didn't have any of her hair/DNA on it IIRC, so they had to get a hairbrush from her UK bedroom.
Which suggests that she was dead already, as there was no need to brush her hair.
An icky thought about cuddle cat just occured to me. Did she wash it because something else icky was on it?
I always wondered why Kate would carry cuudle cat around ?. Obviously for the cameras, and to evoke our emotions.Why wash it?. Same as the Marylin case, the maid washed the sheets soon after, why ?.
The police should have taken the blanket and cuddle cat into evidence as soon as they were called out to the scene. That was a big mistake
💯With you on this Nick. Wonderful video!
I would think if you were going to abduct a small child out of their bed, you wouldn’t take the time to rearrange the bedding into a neat triangle…
If there was a quiche in the oven, it was gays.....
If there were horse droppings in the street, it was gypsies... ....
My thoughts too
Who goes running and playing tennis when there child goes missing
parents who don't love and care for their children that's who
Who would have known it was special to her that it was taken from her and not left, but caredully placed, far away from her?
It wasn't special to her. The subsequent ref to it being out of reach is an intertextual ref to Jesus's tomb.
How is it possible that the dogs did not alert the bed and bedroom if she slept there a few nights? Makes me wonder if whatever happened to Madeleine happened days earlier than claimed. Would have given them a few days to dispose of her perhaps in the missing tennis bag and a sail in the ocean and wash her sheets....perhaps that's why nothing was found in the children's bedroom.
Not days, she was there playing with other children the day before her disappearance. But maybe before they left for dinner.
@@laurenmay2098 ….well there was funny business with the logs at the nursery….nothing clear…and another little girl in the party was often mistaken for Maddie….there is no independent witness to her existence those few last days…I think she was accidentally overdosed and died and she is either at the bottom of the sea or on church grounds…remember that priests have a duty of confidentiality like the masons. The whole party of their friends are shady in my opinion…one of them saying he watched the McCann children being bathed at 6pm sounds like a story..why. ?
@@lizmacrae4970 yes was it David Payne sucking his finger asking Gerry if Maddie did that...The friends, the Gaspar's can forward claiming they overheard this conversation and that the men, of this group had a habit of bathing each other's children.Mrs. Gaspar told her Mr. under no circumstance was any one to bathe their children and reported what they witnessed.
Yes, the whole of tapas is shady.
@@lizmacrae4970 yeah, we might never learn the truth, like JonBenet.
@@ruthx3346 yes, ok that makes sense about the cadaver dogs....but the missing tennis bag was widely reported....I can't post the link but it was sky news - new lines in Madeline McCann hunt....was the title. They clearly report this missing blue tennis bag.
They have scrambled all evidence in a case so nothing conclusive points toward them!
Both guilty as hell
I always wondered about her comment "they've taken her" . Who is they ?
Eles... sabem muito bem o que fizeram.
Nothing in the McCanns ever changing version of what happened to Madeleine adds up. How many versions has Kate presented with regards to Madeleine's crying story. "Why didn't you come when I and Sean were crying last night... why didn't you come when I cried last night...etc. All versions are in the adult language, still Kate and Gerry took it as a "passing remark", nothing to worry about or nothing to take seriously.
One may ask how many similar comments there are, which their eldest daughter have made, all of which may have been completely ignored by her parents ??????
If Madeleine had been crying for 2 hours, how can she claim to have been checking every 15 minutes????
@@stevefowler3398 Mrs Fenn who occupied the apartment above the McCanns' apartment claimed that a child in the McCanns' apartment had been crying for 2 hours, and that was two days before Madeleine went missing, so that night at least there were no half hours checking and most likely no other nights as far as I'm concerned.
I'd never wash my child's scent off of anything. I still have my sons newborn cap in a sealed bag.
Did Gerry go to play tennis the following day?. If so why? Was it to remove potential evidence from the scene in a kit bag whilst foresics were beong carried out? Also jogging? Easy to dispose of some tablets from ones pockets on a beach run or down a drain... Were the drains to apartment and the tennis club checked? Bins?
Also, allegedly, it was far from 'the best day'. Kate and Gerry had had a tough day as Kate was very upset with Gerry who had been overly flirtatious with the attractive water aerobics instructor the night before. Kate had slept in the children's room that night and several things point to tension between them the following day (Kate went for a solo run, David Payne had paid a visit to Kate early evening - could have been trying to mediate). Madeleine was probably anxiously anticipating her parents going out again, Gerry's patience threshold was probably very low. It's possible they left her not asleep but in full tantrum and she had a fatal accident soon after they left.
@@ruthx3346 Hey, Ruth 😃 I was a JB follower for a while but unsubscribed after reading his incredibly rude responses to people's well-thought-out questions. There are a number of anomalies in his episodes but he got very shirty when people politely asked for clarification. However, you're right, I still carry a lot of his view. Thank you for your in-depth reply - I don't quite follow the latter part (JB would call me something for that) but I'm sure it makes sense. I just wish they would go back and start the investigation again. Thank you again for taking the time to give your thoughts😄
So first cuddle cat was on a ledge out of Maddie's reach, then next cuddle cat is on Maddie's bed next to her princess blanket...
Surely if their view of the apartment was so clear they would have seen whoever took the child.
Took the child?? In 2023 you STILL BELIEVE THE ABDUCTION NARRATIVE??? Incredible
What sold me was the original story of madeline was taken, let me run out and get help.... whole leaving the other children ALONE AGAIN
You need to look in to the blue racket bag that Jerry misplaced but was seen taking it to his freinds boat .But cld never be found .
Yes, this is very much ignored, like "ask the dogs Sandra" Gerry totally arrogant
@@ruthx3346 pj has a picture of that blue bag Gerry, don’t try to confuse the world, people are reading the pj files and seeing all your interviews “ask the dogs Sandra” and the rest
I think I remember there being evidence at the time that Cuddle Cat was washed. Anyone who has followed this story never expected any evidence to be found at the Reservoir. Too bad the abandoned mines in O Bispo can't be searched...
Which mines and why can't they be searched?
@@KarsonLowe Too deep and dangerous. Gerry's phone pinged in O Bispo just before Eddie and Keela, the amazing cadaver dogs were brought in. They alerted to his car, Cuddle Cat, Kate's clothing, plus numerous places in the apartment.
But....
And it is a very big BUT.
This was their first trip to P de L. And it was only a short break, off season holiday.
How would they know about disused mineshafts? Or reservoirs? Or city dumps? Or where to buy a replacement fridge?
Or where the sea was deepest?
Or how to gain the trust of the local priest?
There just wasn't enough time. Not between jogging, tennis and evening tappas bar dinings?
They MUST have had local help.
Clement Freud was a close friend (?). He had a house in P de L. And was connected to local people.
And apparantly nothing of significience was found and Breukner has been released.
@@stevefowler3398 Answer. They are a weird pair. Freud has been suspected for a long time of paedophaelia. Rightly or wrong I don't know . Yet the McCanns choose to accept an invitation to his mansion nearby,a week after Maddie's disappearance. Kate said the dinner was delicious. In her position I wouldn't have been able to swallow a mouthful.
Carrying the cuddle cat reduced the revealing of body language.
Ok, yes. I hadn't thought of that. Having an object to keep your hands occupied is a good way to avoid 'tells'
It is probably their PR agents idea. Evokes sympathy. And prevents dogs from sniffing the toy.
Thanks Nick..so well covered...excellent insight into this never ending sad case!!!!!👍
There are no photos of Madeleine with Cuddle Cat which is odd if the toy was always with her.
Maybe it was a comforter at bedtime not during the day, good point though.
Exactly. I've been saying this for years. Madeleine had likely never even seen CuddleCat. Never on any of the photographs. Never figured on drawings at the children's club.
CC was pressed into service as a McGuffin, to 'prove' the abduction hypothesis. For this to be true, CC had to now become 'her favourite'. This, KMH does, by simple dint of asserting '..was her favourite, so she must have been abducted' without giving any evidence for the clause preceding 'so'. This sort of backfilling seems to be a constant thing with KMH.
There's too much in your posting for me to reply to in one go, but this:
I am not suggesting that the McCs purchased CC on holiday.
It is well reported that this group met up at sporadic times.
It is fairly common for friends of the family to buy birthday presents for children, but give said presents to the parents for safekeeping until the actual birthday, by which time Payne would have gone home.
It was reported at the time that CC was left on a high shelf. It was around the same time that it was reported that CC was a birthday present. Obviously, 'being reported' doesn't make it true but I've always worked on the principle that people in thus situation weave together a narrative from things that did actually happen, but in different places, and in different time orders. It is by unravelling these that I come to my conclusions.
As you point out, there were no high shelves in the apartment. But, this is another of my contentions:that most of the action took place elsewhere than 5A. Based on the relative sizes of the rooms, I would posit that that apartment was that of the Paynes. As far as I know, we've never seen a picture of the interior of any other apartment which is odd, because it was known that they were all in a group and (at the time) the involvement of other T7 people was a viable possibility.
I'd like to explain how my thought processes work but, truth be told, I really don't know. It's just the way my brain works. If you know anybody who has the capability to investigate my thought processes (hypnosis, MRI, whatever), I'm willing to participate.
In any case, I'm not too fond of 'evidence' in the traditional sense, as I've found out that in cases where deception us part of that case, the only valid evidence is meta-evudence. E.g. the fact that such'n''such a newspaper reported X is far more important than X itself, the truth/falsity of X being a secondary issue.
I have no interest in prosecuting the McCanns or anyone else; I just want to build a plausible picture of what could have happened, and then seek conventional evidence to support/refute it
I would be strange for a 4 year old to not let go of a toy. It could be a PR strategy. I don't think Kate is attached to CC when there is no journalist nearby.
Gerry was the last one to see MM alive, by the time Kate got there MM was missing or so they say?.
What was Gerry doing every time he disappeared and was the meal that was ordered but wasn’t eaten Gerry’s? It seems Gerry was away from the table more than Kate.
And what of the other guy that checked on his kids and the McCanns kids ? Did he do something to MM and the McCanns covered it up because they had an arrangement of some sort?.
What of the tennis bag that went missing? Did the McCanns have an explanation as to what happened to it?.
I believe it was said that GM checked on them that he was talking longer than usual as there was a footy match on TV and the group said that's probably why he was taking so long..... He could have hurt/killed Maddie and staged the whole thing. In my opinion both parents are guilty. There are to many inconsistencies, they never got the story straight. Something definitely not right here. I'm wondering if they made a habit of leaving the children home alone in the UK while they went out to Dinner. ??
Excellent content as always. Thank you, TCRS.
We have the roll shutters also and I can tell you, there's noway to push them up from outside, because they automaticcaly block themselves, so that can't happen. That's how I know she is lying, even if the window was slightly open!
Thrse vids r a really good watch. Keep up the good work mate
Amazing work! As many videos as I've watched on this case, you break it down effortlessly using logic and one clue.
I don’t know anyone that does such a great analysis, not one.
Something that's always got me is the way it's mostly the mother that does the interviews, whilst he sits in the background looking down his nose all the time
The nose of most all trained dogs is often overlooked by many. People can be slick with the yap... that nose. Can often be the truth tell.
The dog is also in the highest regards, such an an specific Swat team. The dog has never ever failed to trace blood/human blood, find bodies etc. I am utterly convinced that, the little girl is back in England somewhere. She had very unique eys, both are doctors. They both know the laws in and out. Gerry overdosed the young girl, then covered up. And higher powers , sadly have intervened. There was suspicious and deleted phone calls. The only way anyone can cover up that mess, is if they have higher powers, in specific laws. And also they are still getting " money" WHY? WHYYY?
British government got involved
So obvious 😊
I would have thought the ‘parents’ would have buried the poor girl with her favourite teddy 😢
Peter hyatts view on the parents says it all
I remember when this happened and l am sure cuddle cat was found on top of a wardrobe. I don't understand why there was no dna on the cat as Kate would have handled it taking it down from wardrobe.l never suspected them could Kate live for 16 years knowing that they were responsible and millions has been spent looking for her.Someone said they paid their mortgage off with donations.
They are probably psychopaths.. the mother certainly comes across as one
It's funny that these people always have reverse memory. When someone points out a flaw in their lie, they suddenly remember more details as time passes
I’ve always been suspicious of these people 😢 I hope the truth comes out!