Disappearance of Madeleine McCann | True Geordie Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 23 мар 2019
- Madeleine McCann disappeared on the evening of 3rd May 2007 from her bed in a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, a resort in the Algarve region of Portugal, sparking what one newspaper called "the most heavily reported missing-person case in modern history". Parents Gerry & Kate McCann are still considered by many to be suspects, Her whereabouts remain unknown.
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Gerry and Kate: we didn't kill Madeleine
Everyone: *Well it was foken one of yas*
DISGASTANG
Kate:it wasn’t me
Gerry: *bitch..*
nab
Yeah cos this is original and not on every other Madeline McCann video on YT
I shouldn't laugh but i did
Yes, watching this now! Opened a beer and left this kids downstairs on their own! This is gonna be good!
McCann's had the same plan
Good life 😂😂
Conor McGrath 😂😂 That’s gold
@@conorm3220 jesus christ.
I'm not sure if he is being intentionally funny or by accident but I laughed anyway.
If your child was missing, you would search the streets morning, noon and night. The next day Kate went for a run, and Gerry played tennis. Unbelievable.
Cool as a cucumber.
😳I never knew that
@@catherinethomas1276the 5cfp
Really? Horrific. I wouldn’t be able to stop crying if my child was taken.
Wtf really disgusting
The fact that the parents threatened to sue over Pat Brown's case analysis speaks volumes.
I can't imagine anyone leaving 3 children under 3 alone, with a door left unlocked.
Vickie Garri EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why can't you imagine it, it's easy, just try and visualize it.
i mean i suppose the argument is that how could someone know that they're there alone (because there was a babysitting business that they could've easily used) with the door unlocked unless they were keeping tabs on them??
@@colinjava8447 Mr literal
@@chrisjames4507 Better than being illiteral
When her mum said "they've taken her" it reminded me of OJ Simpson being told Nicole had died and him saying "who killed her?"
Oh shit, hit the nail on the head there
Exactly
Bang on! That’s exactly it
Completely same psychology
What’s the story of OJ Simpson?
Richard Halls documentary made me realise the parents are defo hiding something, too many inconsistencies. Very bizarre case.
Peter Hyatt analysis was great too!
Why leave 3 babies alone in a foreign country? They could easily afford babysitting services. They are appalling parents!
Think that through LOGICALLY Mary.
The McCanns are not short of money.
So yes! They COULD have employed a babysitter from DAY ONE.
So why didn't they????
Because a babysitter would have seen that there were only 2 babies.
Madeleine was already missing.
FROM DAY ONE.
Now what do all of us do when we go on holiday?????
We take photos. Especially of the kids.
Yet none were taken after DAY ONE.
The photos that were EVENTUALLY handed over to the Portuguese police were fake. Doctored images. The tennis ball photo is not even Madeleine. It is a different girl, photoshopped by adding a hat.
The camera settings had been tampered with.
Because Madeleine was already dead.
Marymcgee...because that was their alibi......
Maybe they left all "3" alone on purpose to validate their kidnapping theory
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@@carolinejohnson22
@@djcherchezlafemmeindeed. Personally I've entertained the idea that the night they raised the alarm could have been orchestrated to some degree. Certainly I think the supposed check rota they devised may exaggerate how frequent the checks were and there is reason to think that the times are hastily manipulated to engineer a timeslot for the abduction
I think Brian and Lawrence should definitely do more true crime podcasts.
True I'd really want to see more.
Bri Schultz maybe something about the Van Allen radiation belt
Luke Beaston Yes! Strange phenomenons and conspiracy theories would be amazing!
1,000 like 👊🏼
Hogwash! Imagine how many innocent people would be in jail if these bozos where the jury? 😂😂😂
I respect the new podcasts and I like the fact your looking at some serious stories
ItsJovian what a lad
@@kieranbrice3889 big boi likes
Same too man.👍
Philip j fry
I dont think these stories are really "that serious". The last two Episodes they were just talking about a Netflix Documentary. I rate this at a 3/10 Content wise, i could sit in a Barber Shop and be annoyed by two people who have this conversation.
She fell and died and they had to act because they were over medicating the kids and would lose the twins, their medical practitioner licensing and would be jailed.
Their whole life now is built defending a lie, you see it on kates face, she's utterly ruined
Fell from where?
Maddie probably fell from the couch. She may well have climbed up on it to look out the window for her mother. She could have hit her head on the window sill. She could also have tripped and hit her head on the table. She was drugged, groggy, and confused. She was only 3. She wanted her mother.
@@JB-wy8fcShe fell and hit her head because she was dosed up and disorientated.... She woke up and started looking for her evil parents in a drugged state (I suppose like a drunk person) That's the blood the dogs picked up....
You know what your saying
That's pretty much how it played out .
Kate said that when she checked the room the door was open then slammed shut. She then said she opened it and saw the curtains blown into the room due to a gust of wind. Yet the crime scene photos show the curtains tucked tightly behind a bed and wicker chair. You don’t tidy the curtains when you discover your kid missing
WHOOSH....
I think she MIGHT be telling porkies....
They also left the door open so as not to wake the kids when checking on them yet the twins slept through.
Netflix: are you still watching Madeleine McCann?
McCann’s: no we’re having dinner
Arsene Wenger oh my 😂😂
Belter😂😂
😂😂😂
Easy arsene
Took me a minute to figure out lol
“ SHES BEEN TAKEN”
Everyone else “ omg where r the twins!?”
“ oh don’t worry I left them ASLEEP in the SAME room since it’s safe 😁”
... and a day or two later put them back into crèche/daycare? Any normal parent would have the twins tethered to their side after the 'abduction'.
@@stopukpovertyuk2392 true
Yeah that and the other hundred odd things that don't make sense about the parents and point at their wrong doing. It's all out there, we can all see it ourselves. We don't need the likes of The Sun to keep money making and bullshitting us about it. We will keep talking about it on a lower level for the rest of our days and those on a higher level will always know they can brush anything under the carpet and propagate through the media to cover up. Way of life at that level. Is there ANYONE out there that don't think the parents are involved/responsible? Only a total, total idiot who possibly still believes in Santa(or cheap, scandalous British tabloids)
I personally believe they were selling her for abuse for stupid amounts of money and it went pear shaped. Lots point at that,ive seen hours and hours of genuine footage about this case and everything points at that.
@@stuarthossack5351 yes. Peodophiles are seen as people who snatch kids from your back garden or the dodgy uncle but what about peodophiles with money? Where do they get kids? They pay.
I think she said "THEY'VE TAKEN HER" which is even more strange as it refers to actual people.
The British police review/investigation into this cold case has lasted for nearly 12 years, costing about £14,000,000 and have come up with nothing. The Portuguese police actually solved this case in 2007.
The Portuguese police couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery let’s be honest 😂
@@seanohare3509 especially wen english police doesn't want to find out the truth
@@mariaronaldo3139 even so, the British police might not want to. The Portuguese police couldn’t find out if their life’s depended on it either way so it’s pretty pointless
But the Portuguese police literally couldn’t find the truth either way…
@@seanohare3509 yes, tey did
Facts are Kate left the twins alone to call for help, leaving them in the same room where Maddie, according to her version, had just been abducted. Besides, in an interview, when asked whether they had killed Maddie, Gerry smiled, hesitated, stammered a lot and answered vaguely ‘no because there is no proof about it’. Kate washed Maddie’s cuddle cat toy before the sniffer dogs’ visit, Kate made a sexual comment about Maddie in her book,... so many red flags!
Based on the Mccann's home videos, I felt spooked by the way Gerry spoke to Madeleine - I wonder if this case is similar to Jon Bennet Ramsey. "over-interested" dad? jealous mother? Kate accidentally killed her daughter just as Patsy did - maybe this is part of the reason both mothers were impatient with and unconnected to their little girls
@SB-131
I think Burke killed JonBenét on not patsy. Whether he meant to kill her or just injure her is another matter.
Patsy didn't want to lose another child, so she covered for him and wrote the ransom note. No kidnapper using someone else's note paper and pen, whilist in the victim's home, writes a randsom note that long. In fact, ransom notes several pages long are unheard of. The note had a very feminine tone to it and extrapolated on things that didn't need to be said. Not to mention the amount of money demanded waa exactly the amount of John's bonus.
We know that Burke was very jealous of JonBenét and had a temper problem. According to the autopsy, JonBenét had pineapples and ice cream in her digestive tract, which was Burke's favourite treat. He lost his temper that night and picked up a flash light and struck her skull with it. John then proceeded to stage the body. Even the ligature used to tie her hands was needlessly complicated. He also led a witness to where the body was placed. This is common among criminals, especially murderers, as it gives the impression that a witness discovered the body of their own accord and therefore the suspect goes with them and is deemed innocent. Common tactic. Not to mention the Ramsey's first move was to call friends over and have them tramp all over the house. The body was also moved, contaminating the crime scene further. And I haven't even got started on the emergency phone call Patsy made...
You can hear 3 voices when the audio is enhanced; Patsy, John and Burke, despite the Ramsey's stating Burke was asleep, in bed, at the time. It sounds like he asks "What have you found?" in a sing song voice. You can hear John reprimand him or speak authoratively the way a parent speaks to a child. So many red flags in this case.
If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think Patsy committed the murder or manslaughter?
As for the McCannes, I've always assumed they were guilty. I believe Madeline was given a sedative and either over dosed, or more likely was injured, as the cadaver and blood dogs hit on several places inside the home and hire car. Not to mention on Madeline's stuffed toy. Besides many other red flags, evidence and suspect behaviour and testimonies from the McCannes and their associates.
To leave 3 children in a room while you go out to eat and get pissed is nothing short of a disgrace. Poor maddie
Their friends at dinner, also left their children alone too. All of them did
But why weren't they changed with Parental Neglect if that was typical Joe bloggs they would have been, but because they are Doctors they didn't?
I honestly don’t know how there wasn’t a successful negligence case.
Enda Mullins do they. Well I certainly wouldn’t leave my kids alone in there own house never mind abroad. Madness you say that
Enda Mullins well they are very stupid people then
True "it just doesn't look good" Geordie
R2002 hhahahahhajahahaha
42:15
True ‘I believe the dogs’ Geordie
Lawrence ‘the other side to that is’ McKenna
I was just reading your comment when he said that 48:25 lol
The Portuguese police actually wasn't incompetent. They suspected the parents from the very beginning and the parents knew this, which is why they refused to cooperate with the investigation. This made the Portuguese police look incompetent and foolish. Also, Scotland Yard didn't even want to pursue any avenue other than the "abduction" one.
Read the book "A Verdade da Mentira" by Gonçalo Amaral, the lead investigator in this case. I think it's available in English.
Amarai wasn’t fooled by the McCanns! He knew they were behind her disappearance!
Competent police secure the crime scene……
The parents took part in her disappearance. Ex (now retired) coppers spoke about the investigation that leads to the parents.
@@RushmoorFizzbomb hard to do that when it has been messed up before hand
The forensics found only one fingerprint on the shutters and that belonged to Kate McCann. Also the crime scene photographs show the curtain behind the sofa was tucked in and the shutters were not disturbed. Contrary to Kate's narrative that they were gemmied open and the window was open causing a draught when she opened the door.
This was more interesting than the actual Madeleine McCann documentary
Yeah it way too long that it needed to be, alot pointless information during it.
And the big Guy is fit
Yep
bit odd to be topless for a whole podcast
Mako aha i wish i didnt respect it
this is gold
Mako what are you on about he has two arms and a floating head u mug
Floating head and necklace, quite odd
I was sooo hoping there would be an Idiot that I could label under
r/woosh 🤣🤣
One thing that gets me is the interview, where Gerry basically says, it could have been worse, and all 3 could have been taken. Although true, I just find it hard for a parent to even try and justify that as a consolation prize, that at least only 1 was taken.
As you said the parents are very clinical, I think they accidentally overdoded her hours before and when "checking on her" they were trying to sort out what to do with her in a calm way
I really hope this case is solved before I die
how old are you? xD
init same
They sold her because she was worth a fortune to child trafficking because of the unique mark on her eye
Corn Wallace 15 lol
Ch La Agree money money money
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Petition to get the mccans in jail
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@@decdoesminecraft1 for neglect
@@decdoesminecraft1 i have ya daft shite
When her Dad said, it’s akin to having a bbq and your kids are in your house? This is not how we speak in Scotland.
In my experience as a mum, Calpol takes down a temperature and the child kind of wakes up possibly because of a colourant or something being added.
I am surprised Calpol was mentioned - I think Phenergan, an antihistamine which brings on drowsiness, would have been a more likely medicine. It's available over the counter at pharmacies and was used by adults for insomnia. It is safe to be given to toddlers, so perhaps all three children were given it as Madeline asked the mother why she didnt come the previous night when she called out that the twins were crying ?
I'm not surprised the twins didn't wake up that fateful night. Just my thoughts from a mum and nurse.
God bless Madeline ❤.
In Portugal and Spain opiates like Codeine are available over the counter. Kate was an anaesthetist. she would have felt confident giving it to her child to make her sleep.
I never heard of calpol putting kids to sleep before. I thought that's why Dozol was sold at the time.
there's a theory that maddie died the previous night that the mcanns claim and the whole "twins were crying" was a made up thing to either suggest she was alive the previous night wghen she wasn't, or to just give the idea that no sedatives were used.
@@yoyoclodieCalpol is paracetamol so makes kids drowsy...
@@Galbereth I've never seen that happen.
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LukeL7 😂😂
no
LukeL7 😂😂😂
That made me laugh out loud 😂
Now that would be a podcast
It wouldn't cross my mind for a second to leave my children alone in in an apartment on holiday. Serious negligence
@@okay6520 safe in an unlocked room?
With so many adults present it would have been easy for each couple to take a babysitting night while the others ate at the restaurant.
What about one of the children asking. “Where were you last night when ? was crying for you?” ... also
They were friendly with that tv personality Freud who was in the resort at the same time - wasn’t he known as a paedophile? Can’t remember anything brought up about that!!
@@okay6520 and that's not a reasonable thought so it's clear negligence
@@isabelboydcolhoun7420 that's a very good question. Apparently they had dinner with him? Or got together with him socially?
the parents did it, the more you look at there actions and interviews the more obvious it is they know everything
And still receiving money through the Maddie “fund”
The parents know what happened to poor Maddy! 100%
I watched an interview with Gerry McCann where they asked him why the cadaver dogs had signalled a dead body - Gerry said "i don't know, why don't you ask them" which to me is a very flippant & concerning answer considering his daughter is missing
I haven't ruled them out of it me there's something not right about the whole thing
They are, or were, friends of extremely prolific paedophiles.
Jamie B
If we asume that the dog was picking up on a dead Madelaine...
Cadaverine starts forming about 90 minutes to two hours after death.
So. For the dog to detect the smell behind the sofa means that Madelaine was there for several hours or was put there briefly, hours after she died.
The blood behind the sofa was apparently spatter, not a smear. Which indicates that Madelaine fell behind the sofa. The blood also seeped under the tile, which indicates that it was very fresh, because blood starts clotting very quickly.
Behind the sofa was the window. Madelaine was hyper active. It is therefore likely that she climbed from the sofa to the window and fell between.
I would say,
'We did ask the dogs and they found blood and cadaver odour Gerry.
So do you care to offer an opinion on it?'
Rob Total red flag
They had babysitting service and they chose to just leave them. Pure neglect.
Why weren't they Charged?
Because they are Doctors.
Joe bloggs would have been Charged.
@@johnsharman7614 that's what drove me crazy. There are parents who lose custody for running into a supermarket and leaving kids that age in the car for five minutes. Yet they admitted thier criminal neglence and still have their kids. People feel bad for them. Yes, it is horrible, but this wasn't a tragic accident. This happened because they made a choice to neglect their kids.
She was kidnapped because they didn't want to spend 30 euro on a babysitter. Wow.
John Sharman Totally agree.
With so many reasons why maddy shouldn't have gone missing you have to think, did they sell her
All I can say, is as a parent there’s no way in hell I’m gonna keep my composure….If I literally have no idea what happened to my child I’m gonna die an early death of lack of sleep and worry.
There is absolutely no way my child would be missing and I’d be on TV talking about it and not be sobbing.
I'm a parent and we never left our children. They also on buggies etc, you'd never leave doors unlocked either.
The whole point of going on holiday with your children is for memories and being together.
Great point!
And those memories are captured in PHOTOGRAPHS. Yet the McCanns took none all week, even though HE stated that they were having such a wonderful vacation.
The fact that her parents left three kids three years and under alone for hours on end is negligence in the first place
its not tho they were right across the street where they could see the house and they checked on the kids around every 30 mins. my parents would do this when i was little and so do many other parents which is why this one is especially terrifying for people
@@hh-mp5pf yes but the fact that they were aged THREE and under, if they were five, six maybe then okay...but not at that age, children still rely on maternal/paternal care at all times
@@hh-mp5pf it's a bad argument to say that so many parents do it, because it just paints the bigger picture of how dreadful parents are nowadays. If your parents would do that, then they're part of those bad/thoughtless parents.
You're in a country that you're not familiar with, and your kids are in a hotel room which is easily accessible, you leave the gate unlocked and the door open. There is also a babysitting service within the hotel, and you have money to pay for it. Any which way you look at it, it's neglect (not necessarily in the legal sense, but in general terms).
@@hh-mp5pf your parents neglected you then
@@SHlV It really isn't. If the kids are asleep, checked on regularly, in a safe/secure environment and in close proximity then whats the problem? The parents are allowed to enjoy the holiday too. The issue here is the age of the kids and that the room wasn't safe nor secure. This is a really common practice especially in the lower classes whereby people can't afford multiple holidays separate from the children or afford the childcare costs. Given that they were two medical professionals they have no accuse given the higher income.
This should be a weekly podcast just TG and Lawrence
Used to be, missed the old regular podcasts where they chat shit aha
iPURITYaF yeah they’re good but it interesting to see different guests
the true news videos basically are that and happen weekly
Adam Harvey yeah that’s in the news that’s happening RN , they can still do that and just do a podcast on a topic each week
The fact Kate left the twin babies in the room when she ran back to Gerry pretty much says it all to me. A mother who believed her toddler had been kidnapped from her bedroom, her trust and security entirely violated like that, would have snatched those babies up and kept them with her.
Kate did NOT say “they’ve taken her” when she first came back to the table. The “they’ve taken her” line is a factoid (i.e. untrue, but now seared into public consciousness about this case thanks to constant media repetition). The original police files show very clearly that all the witness statements of the Tapas 7 say the same thing: that Kate came back to the table upset and saying that “Madeleine had disappeared” which is a normal reaction of a parent not finding their child in the apartment. “They’ve taken her” was a line that only appeared later as the McCanns developed the abduction story. In other words it was backfill as they scrambled to explain how their child had vanished into thin air.
Also according to other eye witness statements, a) the table in the restaurant was deserted by the families at 9.20, a full 40 minutes before the time given by Kate as the time of her final check. One of the tapas 7 was still there who explained to the chef (who gave the witness statement) that everyone else had gone to look for a little girl who was missing, and she was waiting in case Madeline came to the tapas bar looking for her parents. b) two other witness statements by tourists in the area state that they heard voices calling “Madeleine” at around 9.30pm, meaning that a search was already happening at least half an hour before the 10pm time given to the police. This all points to the mcCanns buying time. Why?? The evidence points to Gerry using this time to take Madeleine’s body down to the beach to hide her (Smith sighting of a man resembling Gerry carrying a blonde haired child at 9.50 walking towards the beach ) and then return to the apartment to join in the “search”, call the police and report the time of the final check and discovery of the “abduction” at 10pm.
Kate McCann thought immediately Maddie had been taken , but then ran to the bar leaving the other two babies totally alone ? She knew damn well there was no abductor
Also she came out out and said "she is gone" she is clearly referring to maddie. If she was clearly shocked that maddie was gone she would have said maddie was gone
Yup no evidence of an abduction ever, which seemed to be overlooked the whole time.
I think the first fear response would be that she could have woken up and wandered outside. Kate should have been worried she could have fallen in the pool, wandered into traffic,the ocean etc. Kate already had a narrative,and only one narrative strait away.
@@susanspurling4826 I think the same thing! I would've been in a panic about that prospect which seems more likely than an abduction
there were no children to leave, that's why she ran. She didn't even lock the door.. 😂 😂 The checks did not happen.
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@@mikey-dh9bw r/whooosh
Now I can’t unsee it 😂😂
The other guy is more like jack Whitehall
Piggynhippo you are the one who got r/woooshed
To me, this was a strange case. It was strange how the parents decided to dine away from their young children without a babysitter. And it was strange how they behaved during the interviews. It felt like seeing poor acting in a film, which is by no means any indication of guilt. But it seemed odd. I hope this case is solved during my lifetime.
Nobody else would have done this. You either get the kids in their strollers and have them with you at the meal or you put everyone's young kids into 1 apartment and have an adult permanently in the room with them. Preschool kids always look for their parents when they wake up. You need an adult presence there.
Some theory is valid. When they dined with their friends, the girl was already died. They will be guilty of neglect and irresponsible but not murder.
I used to babysit for my friends and I would go and check the room on a regular basis just to make sure that the baby was alright. And I was in the house. Those parents, I am sorry, were negligent at least. My theory, however, is that something really more sinister happened. I do agree that assuming she had been taken gave them away. Normally you would say "Where is she, where has she gone?" Maybe later you would start thinking about someone having taken her but not straight away. I think it was all a set up. How they were able to pull it through is anyone ''guess. In any case, the negligence is there and they have gotten away with it because they have friends in high places. Just my opinion. Not answering the police questions, as you say, does not look good.
The total lack of physical evidence in this case is very strange, no fingerprints, no DNA, NOTHING but the cadaver dogs and the corpse scent behind the couch and in the trunk of the car.
I thought you had Madeleine McCann on the podcast for a second
Laurence does look like he could kidnap kids
NorthernerThe he does, but I'd think he would keep her to himself
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The studio isn’t under the sea ? 😂
Will C sameee 😂😂
I love just Geordie and Lawrence the best duo on RUclips period
Oioi go on Josh boy
I like how they never speak over eachother , if one interrupts the other one just shuts up.
Ben Jones come on son landed it
If my child was kidnapped I'd immediately go out running the near streets "shouting Maddy where are you".
The Maccan's just sat on a chair and chatted. They are as guilty as hell.
As a parent I find it incomprehensible that two supposedly intelligent doctors and their friends thought it was safe and acceptable to leave their young children in rooms alone while the ate and drank a distance away.
The parents were educated but lacked common sense.
They also hopped them up on calpol
@@Wallflower905 I am not convinced that is relevent.
It might be the case with the twins, but only to ensure that they stayed quiet.
I was willing to accept that Madeleine died accidentally.
But only the other day, I thought IF she gad died accidentally, that would be tragic, and a swift hearing would have been sufficient.
But I now believe that she MUST have died from a blow.
A blow that resulted in death. A parent beating a child, and causing death would not be taken lightly.
And a trial would have revealed all sorts of unpleasant truths.
Like him being on the sex offenders register. And being involved in the sex abuse scandal at Glasgow Celtic Boys F.C.
This goes much deeper.
@@stevefowler3398 yeah, I’ve never thought about it like that but it makes sense!
I was more thinking the calpol kept the twins quiet and asleep during the chaos after maddie was “found to be missing”
Agree .. they are guilty for being bad parents
Future GCSE History exam question:
"What happened to Madeline McCann? (25 mrks)"
Global Football HD the marks are unknown
A.M.D O.P no they are not u cretin
All I know is that I'm getting a full 25
Papers will go missing
Global Football HD fuck that if u get it right you get a A* and an invitation to Cambridge university
- The McCanns left the little children alone even though there was a babysitting service available and Madeleine had previously cried and asked them where they had been.
- There was no evidence of a break in or abduction.
- Kate and Gerry admitted they did not search for Madeleine when she went missing.
- Kate's reaction to not finding Madeleine in the apartment was to shout "they've taken her".
- They changed their accounts of what happened on the evening Madeleine went missing.
- They initially said the shutters had been jemmied open, broken and raised, the window open. Later, with no evidence of a break in or damage to or tampering with shutters or window, they said they must have left the patio door unlocked.
- Kate refused to answer 48 police questions, even though Gerry McCann told interviewer Jeremy Paxman, who mentioned the "media circus", that any parents would try to get as much info as possible into an investigation to find their missing child.
- The one police question Kate did answer was to acknowledge she understood that her failure to answer questions might jeopardise the investigation.
- Kate and Gerry refused to take part in a Portuguese police reconstruction.
- Gerry refused to comment when asked if he knew fellow suspect Robert Murat
- Former doctor friends the Gaspars contacted Leicestershire police to express concerns that David Payne had jokingly made sexual comments and gestures about Madeleine to Gerry. Leicestershire police failed to pass the statements on to the Portuguese for 6 months- after lead detective Amaral, convinced of the McCanns' guilt, had been taken off the case.
- They lost their libel case against Amaral, over his book The Truth of the Lie, and his assertions of his belief in their guilt, based on various evidence.
- 2 reliable British-trained dogs, with expert handler, alerted to blood and cadaver scent in the McCanns' apartment, possessions, clothes and hire car.
- Kate explained the cadaver scent on her clothes as due to her work as a doctor.
- The McCanns left the hire car doors and boot open, explained that the dog's cadaver scent marking was due to the smell of rotting meat in the boot, also to dirty nappies.
- When asked much later which possible sightings of Madeleine had interested them, Gerry could not think of any and Kate finally mentioned one in Amsterdam.
- They then redirected the issue back to Jane Tanner's supposed and convenient sighting of a possible abductor on the evening of Madeleine's disappearance.
- When on another occasion they were asked about their emotions when a possible sighting was mentioned, Gerry smirked.
- Gerry was filmed laughing on a balcony a few days after Madeleine disappeared.
- In various interviews Kate and Gerry showed a lot of concern over being believed, their own reputations, reinforcing the narrative of an abduction, but little over what was happening now to (supposedly abducted) Madeleine.
-Expert statement analyst Peter Hyatt said he was certain Kate and Gerry were lying in interview.
- Despite public disquiet over their veracity, the McCanns have refused to take a lie detector test.
- Various statements of the McCanns and their friends changed and were contradictory.
- Jane Tanner's initially vague account of the possible abductor changed and became more detailed. Initially, she said she did not see his face, then claimed it was Robert Murat, but retracted that, and much later said that he had scruffy long hair and moustache, to fit another alleged suspect (who looked very different from Murat).
- 3 of the McCanns' friends said they saw Robert Murat in the area of the McCanns' apartment the evening Madeleine disappeared. Other people who knew him did not. They later admitted they may have been mistaken.
- The police interview statement of David Payne confirming he saw Madeleine alive before they went out for drinks was riddled with hesitancy and contradictions compared with what Gerry and Kate said.
- The Madeleine fund has not been a charity, nor totally committed to finding her.
- A huge amount of time and money has been spent on lawyers and suing critics of the McCanns that might have been spent instead on finding Madeleine.
- A huge amount has been spent on criminal and incompetent private detectives with bogus stories and leads. Year after year there have been new prime suspects publicised by the media, and police wild goose chases, diversions from the truth, and often promoted by the McCanns and their publicist/media controller Clarence Mitchell
Well Said .... And in fifteen years there has never been an iota of evidence that Madeleine was abducted.
@Mizofan - Excellent breakdown 👏
Well done! A great summation. I never, not once thought this pair innocent. I just watched, where a police whistle blower said the McCanns were swingers, and they used to knock the kids out with drugs, and she was killed by too much sedative/anesthetic
This breakdown is exactly what detectives should be firing into the mccans and nailing the bastards for killing their child.
There are gaping holes in ALL of the TAPAS group's statements!
For many observers of this case, it seems clear that Madeleine died BEFORE the night of the so called abduction.
There are no photographs after the first day. Who takes their kids on holiday and does not take lots of snaps? (Especially nowadays with digital cameras).
Most of us suspect that she died in the appartment, possibly from a blow to the head. Possibly after falling over in a chemically induced stupour.
All of the other odd bits of information add to the suspicions.
ie:- the removal of the fridge, the missing sports bag, the blood, the cutting of the twins hair, the bleaching of the appartment, the washing of the cuddle cat, the deliberate contamination of the "SCENE OF THE CRIME", the delay in calling the police,.
And the continual changing of the story all goes to fuel suspicion.
If you look at the Soham and April Jones cases the parents were in bits pleading for their kid’s safe return. Kate wasn’t like that, she was just silent which to me is out of character for someone who’s lost their daughter.
Neither was Gerry
Everyone has a diffrent opinion. But I think everyone can agree, the whole case is very strange
“Now I’m not saying that she’s guilty,but it doesn’t look good”
-True Geordie 2019
I'm not saying that the parents are guilty, buy they are definitely guilty as hell!!!
But head..
John Mckee They must be man...
Quote true geordie
@Gerry Berry you're fucking weird.
I'm not going to comment about the documentary or the case, sorry, but I do want to say that by and in itself this podcast was superb. The eloquence and the playing devil's advocate by both of you made this one to be an instant favourite, very enjoyable all around. It's my third time watching it, I'm officially obsessed.
Gerry Berry there a podcast there talking about something interesting what helps the younger youth understand
Gerry Berry it’s not a conspiracy g
rachel evans oh I am sure Gerry has seen all the documentaries
I appreciate how you keep calling her a baby. Hardly anyone puts emphasis on that fact.
Maddie died at the resort. Cadaver dogs found many hits in their apt and car.
Geordie:*exists*
Laurence: to counter what you’ve just said there...
Quality banter
If lawrence just keeps on agreeing with brian it wouldnt be a very long podcast
No matter what happened the McCans need to be to be prosecuted for child neglect.
You know What explain how it’s not neglect then
You do realise a) the party eating where checking on the child every 20-30min or so and b) this was considered a safe area. As +You know What rightly says, you know nothing of this case. Do everyone a favor and go watch it
@Hairy Chinese Kid in fairness those things could've come from previous visitors to the room/leasers of the car
Hairy Chinese Kid the fuck you on about?
@@adamdickinson8478 no some of the dna was very close to madelaine
Guys Calpol is only paracetamol, you cannot sedate anyone with it. If they were sedating the kids you'd have to be using something different such as benzos
The dogs and the blood tests really through me. If you read how intensive those dog tests were …. There were no ways they made a mistake
Next on the TrueGeordie Podcast:
*Did Michael Jackson kidnap Madeleine McCann?!*
Tom Walsh that’s actually a conspiracy theory a think
Mighty Marouane Fellaini not a good conspiracy theory at all no correlation to case
@@euanmchenry5688 whooooosh
@@suhailhussain3480 How's that a wooosh?
Fuck off😂😂
Brian: Laurence u ready mate
Laurence: nah let me get my pen this is a serious one
😂
The bigger question is what's he gonna write on with that pen?
I was always MORE careful on holiday not less, because everyone's a stranger.
This is the first video I've come across from this channel and you guys have been a joy to listen to!
Usually I don't like these longer format podcast type videos as I have a short attention span. Unless it's a historical or crime documentary, I have trouble paying attention to these types of videos where people just sit down together and have a discussion.
But I've enjoyed this: you've laid out the facts of the case and the Netflix documentary very well (I've watched the documentary and researched the case, even watched Richard D. Hall's investigation on it, but I still like to hear about it from different perspectives and catch any new information about the case), as well as adding your own takes and opinions respectfully.
Brian: literally breathes
Laurence: yeah, but alternatively...
that's a good thing though? because it brings out every idea and opinion rather than them both agreeing on everything the vid would be 20 minutes if that was the case.
@@aledbrown2040 r/wooosh
You’re simpatico
EthanWatts321 didn’t even read the comment just glad we have another catfish fan
Brody Partington Tú eres simpático
I like how they both have different opinions and aren’t afraid to disagree with each other. it makes it so much more interesting to watch and you aren’t just hearing 2 people agree on everything. This is how it should be done
Loz I playing devils advocate not disagreeing
The 1980s Welsh history series The Dragon has Two Tongues involved 2 historians with very different views arguing their case- compelling viewing. In this McCann case the mass of evidence points to the McCanns' guilt and cover-up, and also cover-up by the British establishment and mainstream media!
I think that's rehearsed, they both believe the parents were guilty
They're so guilty. How can you leave 3 very young children by themself. The fact that they have custody of the two is disgraceful. The truth will come out one day and they'll be arrested
I hope so 🙏 they do
My parents would have dragged us down to dinner with them. They took us everywhere with them. In all my childhood, I do not recall ever being left with a babysitter. We were left alone only when the oldest was 15 years old. Needless to say, I couldn’t wait to leave home
This is unreal...they left their children ALONE...in a hotel room, in a foreign country? They are at very least guilty of child neglect! prosecute.
Kate said she couldn't sleep to well for 2 days!!!! 2 days look at the state James bulgers mum was in compared to those nutters
Yes, I wonder how the twins' childhoods were.
@callum white Gamez actually it's both
@callum white Gamez um yes. It's neglect to leave a young child unattended and alone. It may not be child endangerment although I think there's an argument for that.
And the sliding door was unlocked.
Geordie: “Madeleine, how would you like to be remembered?”
Madeleine: “The Best Hide and Seek player in history”
Ben Hughes bin laden has that throne
Ross Cockcroft Osama Bin Hiden
She’s overtook Anne Frank 🤙🤙🤙
Ross Cockcroft Nah McCann has been missing longer than Bin Ladan was hiding
Jesus...
I have moved up to the north east after living in Cheshire for 55 years. I am not a Geordie. I think you are an example of a true Gordie. I love your work 💕
It’s our duty as members of the public to keep this in the limelight.
The thing that gets me the most is the parents trying to justify leaving Maddie in the room, saying it was the same distance as being in the backyard and the kids being asleep in the house.
Here’s the difference: your home isn’t in a foreign country, and you don’t have to walk past dozens of strangers to get to your kids from the fuckin backyard.
They've got one hell of a fucking big back yard then... That distance is longer than my yard and house combined!
Yes did you see the hotel plan the restaurant was behind the pool! It was not in the backyard!
Absolutely correct
Backyard if you’re a bloody farmer
The bottom line is that they abandoned Maddie and she was alone without a guardian, albeit given the parents had nothing to do with her death.
If they didn’t kill her then their actions led to her death. Either way they are guilty.
Completely sound logic in my opinion...
Yes
Yes it has always baffled me that they never received any consequences for negligence
@@Razzles1235 because money talks.
@@lorrainetavares1308 it’s such a strange crime
I encourage you to watch the 4-hour documentary "When Madeleine Died", by Richard D Hall. The so-called "last picture" could not have been taken later than the weekend before her disappearance, as the remainder of that week was overcast by clouds.
An excellent documentary on dvd he was giving away.
Interesting and more extensive coverage on this case than I thought. Thanks! Would love to hear more about your views on other cases as well.
I'd love to see one of these on the OJ Simpson case
{Like so he can see}
That would be legendary 👍🏾
Yeah but oj was already convicted so it won’t really be much of a debate as Jackson and mcann as they’re on going
@@user-op6kt8pg9y meh
@@user-op6kt8pg9y It would still be amazing to hear what they think happened and all that
Beastgaming FTW he wasn’t convicted that’s why it’s so infamous
They 100% did it. Any parent would be willing to do anything to get their child back.
100% did it did they? Did they? Why have you gone quiet?
@@Zeitgeist971 how have I gone quiet?
@@Zeitgeist971 he wrote that 8 months ago. And you must be a fool to believe that the parents weren't involved. They killed her.
A Fucking Pizza • 12 years ago exactly. Let’s not forget the money that WE donated to help find their daughters ended up being used to pay off they’re mortgage. They are the number one suspects.
The parents even went as far as telling Netflix to take down the documentary. Why would they do that if they wanted to bring awareness to her
Great podcasts lads . Tough subjects and you both bounce off each other really well
Great podcast to such a shocking and yet fascinating story - great points from both, I'd agree that all the points do point to the parents at this point in time!
Brian: *gets passionate*
Lawrence: “the other side of that”
still dunno who is who. Not that I care.
Ana Lisa Ferreira Ferreira 1. why come and watch the video 2. You don’t care that much that you watched and commented on the vid
@@antrjr9047 where is the video 2? Are they making the usual xenofobe comments about portuguese people, again?
Ana Lisa Ferreira Ferreira what are u talking about
Ana Lisa Ferreira Ferreira they meant 1. Why come and watch the video 2. You don’t care that much why comment of the video
Very much agree with Geordie. Especially with young kids and especially when abroad leaving them alone like that is absolute negligence
I 100% agree. I'd watch my children *closer* while abroad. They were shit parents on that trip. So negligent.
This used to happen all the time though, people thought nothing of leaving their kids alone/asleep in the rooms.
Big words
Absolutely. What makes no sense at all is how those parents could leave three children under four alone in an unlocked apartment. It is child endangerment as sadly the unfolding events later showed. I also cannot understand how checking up on them every half hour makes it any safer? They were still left alone and vulnerable the rest of the time. Also too much pressure on a three year old to comfort crying babies... As parents we have a duty of care to protect our children and not put them into dangerous situations. That’s an awful burden to live with...
If they wasn’t middle class they would of been charged with that at the very least
No one in Liverpool acts like Kate McCann don’t know what sort of people he’s met here
i always thought the parents had weird emotions in their interviews. How can anyone leave 3 kids alone with a open door?
What about Kate's book, where she says " she has nightmare of Maddie's genitals being ripped apart? What parent thinks that sick way?
What the fuck?
especially sick if the parents accidentally killed her with meds to sleep
@Hollow Skull That's right--just like the Watts case.
The kind who's had their child snatched? I personally neither blame them nor think they're innocent, there's no definitive evidence out there and this isn't the movies or murder mystery; just because they're cold, unlikeable people it's not a clue, suspicion isn't evidence, however their actions and reactions throughout the case have definitely been concerning. But I will defend them here; unless you've been through something like this you're not qualified to say what you'd think in that situation.
yeah honestly its disgusting, i think they said “her perfect little genitals being torn” like what parent in their right mind when their child is missing, goes straight to worrying about their 3 year old childs genitals??
True Geordie: were gunna look at this as devils advocate
1 minute later: Parents did it
Well he’s not wrong
It just doesn’t look good!
It doesn't look good for the parents, too much robotic in their interviews and why say they have taken her?
It's not just their attitude. The way they talked about Madeleine, like she was a perfect toy, her genitalia... disgusting. Not to mention Clement Freud dinners. The church. Fuck sake, they did it.
Way too many things go against what you’d expect from them if they wasn’t involved in some sort of way, I %100 believe they did it or was involved/know what happened. Like why would you be instantly thinking “they’ve taken her” who’s they?
It comes to light in some minds, Kate & Jerry were Swingers which was why they went on holiday in a large group, this could have led to child abuse, Maddie was drugged by professtionals for exactly what purpose we will ever know, but i personally think they were responsible for dispising of her body because there were incrininating marks on Maddie, i think the whole thing was very murkey, muddy & very criminal !
I also think this.
The mind boggles at how many things given as factual here are wrong or dubious. The window being open, the "room" being near to where the parents were eating etc etc etc.
Oh dear my child's gone missing il leave the twins alone and run all the way back to the restaurant instead of screaming for help from the balcony
In the mothers account she did shout from the apartment
You are spot on never thought of it that way before.
A beer in the garden with a true Geordie podcast, what a time to be alive
@Ben Johnson For me its taking a shit in the garden
😂😂
Mythagoras hopefully your own garden at least
Al O98 whilst your unattended kids are inside
I just put fingers up my arse
I would NEVER leave my kids in a hotel room alone and go off wining and dining.
So many things can go wrong.
Correct!
And that is exactly why we know the McCanns are lieing.
Dogs were not wrong. It happend, child died there, they "covered up" with their stories. I think their children will seek for the truth one day, seek and discover it.
Respect Geordie! Listening to your fans! Best youtuber on the web!
Very true
Xx
He wouldn’t have stopped the Newcastle vids if that were true
@@ffccc678 the lad cant stay one dimensional forever. His content has gotten better over time.
You watched the full documentary?
Congratulations! You watched Madeline McCann better than her parents
Oh Yeah yeah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha fucking hell that was original hahahahahahahahahaha
Oh Yeah yeah fucking hell mate
Not many people can get away with murder but I know a couple who McCann.
You have been thinking of this all day in your head that was hilarious but in reality it wasn’t hahahaha
@@DC-gm8ht no I haven't been thinking about it all day as I work fulltime in a very demanding job; however, I do think what I said was apt.
The creepiest for ne was:
When Gerry is asked why the cadaver & bloodhund gave such a strong result in the cupboard and behind the sofa - Gerry: "Ask the dogs" with a clear DUPERS DELIGHT.
Kate: how she describes Madeleine´s genetalias boooth in the book & under question
Loved your podcast lads keep going you two are great!!! Take care from Bolton
So... she ran out and left the other kids behind after suspecting one had been taken already?
i’d take the two kids with me because 1- my other kid has vanished and 2- because the abductor could still be in the room or could be racing back to get them
Yet another Red Flag that I haven't heard others talking about.
She had her phone with her to use or could have shouted from the apartment. Incredulously she claimed in her book that she thought the abductor was still in the apartment when she left the other 2 children unattended!
I fully get she would be panicking and not thinking straight, had there been an abduction, but under such stress, a mother's core instinct to protect her children would kick in even stronger.
And another red flag to me is that the McCanns and their friends put all the children back in the creche the very next day. As if you would do that with an abductor of small children on the loose!
Yes. If your child had been abducted you would never let your other children out of your sight, let alone leave them with strangers
THE PARENTS KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO MADELEINE.
💯
They’re just doing it for the money
100%
I agree
Agree, they drug their kids to keep them asleep on Holiday? Like he said, non-likeable people at all!
Either the parents were directly responsible, or their negligence is the reason as to why she was kidnapped/disappeared. Whatever way you want to dress it up, the parents are responsible in one way or the other, it’s just determining how. No responsible parent/s leaves their kid/s alone in a hotel room on holiday unsupervised by themselves for hours on end. To this day I can never understand how the public didn’t scrutinise the parents more for owning up to doing that.
I love the way you try to give both sides of the case and try to reason out the situation