How to Conquer Range Anxiety
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- "How far does it go?" is a question we always get with our EVs. Range anxiety is the most common concern about making the switch to an EV. We addressed these concerns and to defeat range anxiety on our most recent road trip.
Chapters
00:00 - Intro
01:39 - Home Charging
02:50 - Charging Apps
03:21 - Low Range EVs
05:08 - Plan Your Routine
08:19 - Changing Your Mindset
09:54 - An EV Might Not Be For You
10:39 - Road Trips
15:06 - Conclusion 
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The way I overcame my range anxiety was to learn to trust the car. If my Bolt's guess-o-meter says "minimum 40 miles range" I know that I can go 40 miles, so I don't worry "can I drive 20 miles" because the answer is YES. If I needed to go 40 miles when the GOM says 40 min, I'm not too worried because I'm looking at the min range, so there is some leeway built in. Finally, if I need to further than my GOM says I can go, I know that I can alter my driving to get some extra mileage out of him. Turn off the AC/heat and/or slow down will boost your range 20%.
Damn!!! Over 50? Life is good 😊 You guys look great. Thank you for the contents. Great job, and keep up the good work.
I love y’all’s dynamic! As others on the ‘net have said, it’s more of a charging time issue than range anxiety. We all want to fill up faster and rely on the charging stations to be reliable when we get there. That’s why I bought Teslas.
@kellysmith2303 The teslaverse is not the only answer in 2024. On road trips across the US during the last six months I have been without needing to come to a tesla charger site. Tesla's show up at non-tesla DC fast charger sites all the time. It is perfectly fine to purchase other BEV's in the US in 2024 and not run into what "others on the ‘net' have said" about vehicles that are not made by tesla. We are all one big happy family. Its time to start converting the ICE side of the family.
If using your dryer outlet make sure it can handle several hours of charging an EV. There are videos of these melting because they weren’t designed to run for several hours. I really enjoy your videos btw. 😀
I just bought my first EV, and I definitely have had the cars 15:12 range on my mind. So I did purchase the long range just to give me a little bit more peace of mind.
Great video guys. Appreciate the content. Stay safe my friends.
EV haters hate because they dont know and just keep hating. I stop educating them because they just wont listen. 😊 thanks for the video. 👍
Got my first EV 90 days ago and had range anxiety. I hated to see it under 100 miles til E. I public charge (for FREE) at EA that’s 2miles from my house. Great experience. I rent an ICE car for road trips. Convenient
Try out your EV on a road trip sometime.
You guys are doing great with these videos with the two of you having a conversation while driving. I've been able to get by fine on a 240v 16amp connection in my garage using my Tesla Mobile Connector. My 240v wall plug is a NEMA 14-50 outlet, so I purchased an adapter that converts that plug to a NEMA 6-20 outlet. It provides 3kW - 12 miles per hour of charge.
I have a PHEV that accommodated the office commute very well but I have now moved and that distance has tripled. So I am looking at an EV for that and using the PHEV for the local distance trips to places where the fast charger infrastructure hasn't been built up yet.
Thanks this informative video.
Good job! Again. There was a recent thread on one of the EV forums I frequent that asked how to deal with range anxiety. My answer was pretty brief. "I took a road trip." Actually, I've been in enough potentially life threatening situations that there's not much anxiety left in me. That's not to say I'm fearless, but EV range is way, way, way down on the danger list. After getting to our first charging stop on our first trip in the Bolt and finding both chargers broken ... and then finding that that was not a show stopper ... we were good to go. Whatever uncertainty I had about the practicality of road tripping the Bolt was gone. What's funny now is that my wife is totally unconcerned about range since that 1st day on the road, even when I deliberately get down under 10% SoC on a trip. I asked why she remained so calm. She said, "If you run out of battery, you're the one who'll have to make it right." 16-17k miles of road tripping later (Bolt & Ioniq 5) we still haven't had any problems.
Ive been driving an EV for over 6 years and never had range anxiety. I think most of it comes from big oil propaganda.
I've owned 3 EVs 2 Kia Soul EV+ and I just got a Bolt EUV last month. I TOTALLY agree, I get a LOT of questions and some hate over my Bolt. But I LOVE it, I'm a huge fan of EVs. That said I live in New Mexico, and yeah talk about a lack of infrastructure. There are only 4 cities in New Mexico that type 3 is a thing, most places here don't even have a type 2. So getting around NM with an EV can be a challenge.
I had my 2022 Bolt EV for about 1.5 years. My average daily driving was probably around 30 miles. I used Electrify America locally and on medium range trips when I needed a quick charge boost. Otherwise, I charged the Bolt in our garage on Level 1 at mostly 8 amps, but ended up setting the Bolt to take 12 amps the last few months I owned it. Never had a worry with charging. The EA chargers are 6 miles from home, so getting a fast charge wasn't a concern (when the EA chargers were working properly.) Likewise, I'm charging my 2024 Tesla Model Y at 12 amps in the garage. Again with no issues. There are 24 Tesla Superchargers about 5 miles from home, so when I need to fast charge, they're very convenient to get to. Also, I took my first half-day road trip in the Model Y. It was 228 miles total and I got home with an estimated 92 miles remaining. This was on rural/semi-rural multi-lane divided highways going through small towns. Speeds ranged from 60 to 35 mph on the route I took. Mostly 60 mph and with light to nearly no other traffic. I understand my Model Y RWD Standard Range (260 mile EPA range) can go about 250 miles at a constant 70 mph from 100% to 0% battery capacity. I'd feel comfortable driving for 200-225 miles on the interstate at 70 mph and then charging during a rest/food stop. Branden Flasch tested the same spec Model Y that I bought and found that it can charge from 10% to 80% in 22 minutes. That could add 175 miles of range in that time, plenty to get to my next charging stop/destination. I'm very happy to have my Model Y and loved my Bolt EV. Would have kept the Bolt, but needed to trade it in to get into the Tesla. I'm planning on taking the Tesla on a slightly longer day trip soon, 270-ish miles and will see how that goes. Slightly higher speeds, again on rural/semi-rural multi-lane roads going through smaller communities. I've done that without stopping to charge the Bolt and am excited to see if I can do that in the Model Y without charging along the way. We'll see! :) Thanks again for all the great EV content!! Y'all are awesome.
Thanks!
And the thing about charge stops… Before I had an EV I would just drive… sometimes I would drive more than I really should and get tired and not relax and the drive was not as fun. And I’m talking about Long multi day drives not just a few hour trip which wouldn’t make a difference if you were in an EV or an ICE car. When I’m on a long trip, I love to look at when the Tesla tells me the next charge stop will be. I have the same car as you so it’s usually anywhere from one and a half to three hours. But I look forward to that time that’s the time I get to just chill for a few minutes. Eat, go to the bathroom or even take a nap. When you’re doing a multi day trip, especially charge stops are a positive not a negative. I easily plan my day out with the Tesla app so I know what time I’m gonna be at the hotel at night and I always choose a hotel that has free level two charging, which is sort of like a hotel giving you a free tank of gas! So far I’ve done two cross-country trips and back three trips from LA to the Pacific Northwest. Many trips to Phoenix from LA and many trips to Palm Springs from LA and several to Modesto from LA. Although I’ve always liked road trips doing them in a Tesla, especially one with FSD is a whole different experience and you would only understand how it feels if you did it yourself. FSD you’re not driving the car you’re monitoring the car. It’s a whole different skill set and one that’s definitely more pleasurable. Thanks Luke and Rachel for amazing videos!
I could go on and on about various tips and tricks I use in a Bolt to avoid range anxiety, but I think the most important one - and one that applies for any EV - is, if you're nervous about taking your car out on a road trip, the only way to overcome that nervousness is to actually do it.
By all means, do your homework. Set up the charging accounts and phone apps in advance, and test them at DC chargers in your neighborhood first. And, definitely scout out chargers ahead of time on the trip you will actually take and make a plan when and where to charge before leaving home. And, also allow yourself lots of extra time and range buffer on your first road trip, as the EV road trip everyone takes that is most likely to run into problems is almost always their first.
But, the point is, you will never conquer EV range anxiety simply by driving the car to the grocery store and back and bunch of time. The only way to get comfortable taking your car out of a trip and charging it away from home is to actually take the car out on a trip!
I've been running my Bolt on 12A level one for a year now. My daily commute round trip is 45 miles. No problem recouping that distance daily. That said, level 2 convenience is superior. It comes down to cost factor of installation, which can vary quite a bit, but if a prospective owner has access to a 20 amp residential outlet then the average American commute can be easily accomplished with an EV.
I think Rivian is changing the game with their charger rating system and now that it's on ABRP, I love it! Road trips are getting easier and easier with non Teslas. Can't wait for my R2, but that updated ABRP feature is going to make my already comfortable ID 4 road trips even better in the meantime. Also, weak bladder crew member here if that's a thing. I plan 2 to 2 1/2 at most before I schedule a stop. Even when I was driving I.C.E. Over 50 looks great on you guys.
I did my first time road trip a week ago in my model 3 long range and it wasn't that bad, by the time you go to the restroom or get something to eat the car is either ready or about done charging and plus I saved at least 200 not using gas.
I have an EV that I use for around town driving. It’s only charged at home. I think for those driving a Tesla have an advantage due to the numerous Tesla charging stations around the country. Tesla will be my next EV for use around town and for long distance travel.
I’ve been driving Tesla since 2017 and am on my fourth Tesla. Right now, I live in an apartment and all I have is a 120v outlet. However, it is a 20a outlet so with the correct adapter, I can charge at 1.8 kW as opposed to 1.4. There are plenty of other level 2 and level 3 DC fast chargers nearby including a Tesla supercharger. I rarely use them because if you always plug your car in when you’re not using it, even the slowest of chargers will be sufficient.
I am terrible at judging distance so I always have to look up what the distances are. I believe I can trust my Bolt Guess-O-Meter for the mist part and I know I can drive hyper efficiently if needed, but I just go ahead and charge ahead of time instead of worrying about it.
I’ve had my SR M3 for almost a year now. Mostly around town driving, with 2 or 3 drives that have needed supercharger stops. I too can charge at home, so no real issues there. My biggest concern with taking a real road trip in the car is - what happens if you get stuck in bad traffic. Yes, I know people run out of gas in bad traffic all the time. But gas stations and transporting gas to a “dead” ICE are not a huge problem (also, never happened to me in 20ish years of road trips). I know my Tesla will adapt my route, but that’s the thing that sticks in my head as an apprehension.
Bad traffic uses less energy, so it shouldn’t be an issue. Haven’t had a problem but I also haven’t been in super bad traffic with a low state of charge.
First thing I ask people when they ask about EV's: Can you charge at home? If the answer is no then I usually don't recommend an EV for them. If they can charge at work is another possible way to do it. But if you have to rely on public charging as limited as it is and as unreliable as it is then I would just not do it and don't recommend it when people ask.
Tesla chargers may work for that purpose, but again typically not close, out of your way and reliance on DCFC means the cost to operate the EV is ridiculously high. It really also depends on how much do they road trip? Do they have a second vehicle they could still use for a road trip. When they road trip how far are they going? How much time to do they have? These factors all play into it. An EV today still is no where near as fast as a ICE yet and people need reasonable expectations of the added time and complexities.
People are stuck with a gas station mentality. That is the new thing they need to learn no longer applies if you have the ability to charge at home. If you leave home with a full tank then you don't think about where you are going to get a charge. Range(charger) anxiety really is only a thing on road trips for me. The infrastructure isn't dense enough and not reliable enough yet. If I had the Tesla most of that would vanish if I am willing to go out of my way to be able to go to Tesla chargers which still are not common in rural or off the beaten path areas.
I think the real question is not how far can you go (range) but how far do you need to go. I charge at home to 55 or 60% daily and never think about range at all.
On road trips I charge to what I need to start the trip at home then Supercharge as needed. Quite honestly the car will go much farther than I want to go between stops. I need to stretch my legs, pee and just let my eyes rest every 60-90 minutes anyway. Charging on road trips happens while I stop. It's just so easy.
Add in FSD and I am a relaxed road tripper.
Another great video! EVs have so much soul! A note about home charging…. In some places like here in CA, an apartment building must let you install a level 2 charger if they don’t provide. My building has an overcharged unit between every other parking spot in our garage, which is perfect… But if a building doesn’t, you can buy law in some states install a charger. And I’m sure that will spread to other states as EV’s adoption grows.
Best way to deal with EVs in places that are more spread out (out in the country) is to buy a used, cheap EV (like a Bolt) for your toting around town or commute, and buy a plug-in hybrid or hybrid (like a Clarity, Volt or Prius Prime) for road trips. Ride your hybrid or PHEV on gas and don't think about it. You'll cut your fuel consumption by 75%-80% compared to owning two conventional vehicles.
Our Buc-ees near us in Georgia have plenty of EV chargers. 12 Tesla, 6 Mercedes and they are installing about 6 ChargePoint. 👍. The Tesla vehicles being sold at Hertz are coming down every week
In recent commentary about EV, in countless videos from a huge number of sources, I seem to notice a lot less obsession with getting super-rapid charging than there was just a few years ago. Charging speed still matters on things like long trips. but getting the car to charge in 10 minutes, or some such ridiculously short interval, doesn't seem like such a show-stopper as it once did. It's more about whether the charging will not be a big hassle. Does the charger work, is the payment recognized, does the cable reach where my port is, do I have the right connector-these are the kinds of things that really set the tone for driving an EV on a lot of long trips.
Funny opening!
Thanks!
How often does plugshare update device locations? I recently leased a bz4x, and Toyota provides 1 year free charging with EVgo. Google maps has already found 2 chargers near me, which plugshare didn't show on the map!
I have a Chevy Bolt and regularly drive Ohio to North Carolina via West Virginia. The Bolt is famously sh1t on for slow dc fast charging, and West Virginia has like 4 dc fast chargers total.
I've not had a problem and don't think you should worry either. I'm driving what could be one of the least desirable electric route/car combos without issue. Everywhere else is cake
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The RUclips channel: The Network Architect Channel shows all the new DC fast charging stations being installed every Friday. He list Tesla, Rivian, GM, Polit Flying J, and all the other brands. Where they are at, kw power, and cost. I've been driving EVs since 2018 with Teslas and Bolt EV and have never had range anxiety. DC fast chargers are being installed every day and some weeks over 200+ stalls. Ev charging is getting better every day.😊
Y’all are funny. All of us AARP/Seniors are the perfect clients for EV’s
I’m fortunate in that the Delaware/Maryland / Virginia (DelMarVa) area is extremely EV friendly. We even have EV charging at the Senior Citizen Centers and some supermarkets. For us Seniors the maintenance is a blessing. The only thing I find annoying is how inconsiderate some Tesla owners are. If there is a bank of Tesla dedicated chargers why do they still feel the need to charge at the non Tesla charging stations when the two are walking distance apart. Also I’m sure everybody with home charging ability has run into this at least once. People wanting to Borrow your charger. Unless it is an emergency, it’s just rude
8:45 That guy doesn’t know how to merge properly 😢
If you want to roadtrip an EV you should just buy a Tesla, ez.
I would note though on the topic of fuel savings, for those of us in Northern California recent electric bill hikes bring evs much closer to gas than I had expected.
Even the words 'Range anxiety' are not really correct. It's much more about 'Charger working anxiety'. Any novice EV owner will be able to see when and where to stop on a trip to recharge. But they will always be nervous if that plan takes the battery very low because if the charger doesn't work they are stuffed. So the anxiety is really about the reliability of the charge infrastructure. Which forces them to plan to stop early so that they have plan B available if plan A fails. Solve the infrastructure issues and range anxiety will go away.
Plugshare exists, use it.
Buy a Fiat 500e is your first EV, you learn
Get a used Lucid and wear diapers. Sounds like fun 🤡
I think the Lucid is a pretty car, has a very nice ride, and used prices are definitely coming down. They still haven’t come down low enough for my budget.