I think this video is helpful for people trying to make a choice. I have consistently seen positive reviews of the MT10. If someone wants to race then the Senton may be a good choice because tracks often offer a 4WD SCT class, which is often the most brutal. So, it has to be durable. The price between the MT10 and Senton seem to be about the same. Then a choice may come down to availability of parts. On line it probably doesn't make much difference, but it may be different at the local hobby shop.
I didn't mention clubs as this one is about backyard bashing, but that's a great point. Parts availability is down to the manufacturer but both of these have plenty online, which tells me any local hobby shop could carry the parts if they chose to support that brand.
I have the Senton and MT10 out of this group. Never broken either (my 3 year old plays with them the most) after nearly 2 years. The MT10 sticks out to me as the best option of all for versatility and durability. I almost always replace tires with aftermarket rubber but the stock tires are as perfect as they come. No stock tires have lasted as long as them. The 3 diffs are super easy to get to and tuning them has made it an absolute monster. I even put paddle tires on it and we bash it in the snow during the winter with never a single issue. The Senton is now on belted Powerhobby tires after the stock tires blew out almost immediately and then we blew out Duratrax tires as well. Also the Senton NEEDED diff tuning just to keep it stable. My 3 year old just rips it around on ball fields mostly but it's had a fair share of air time and never had an issue. So I did the logical thing and got a Mojave as well.
Some great info here, thank you! I keep reading positive comments about the Mojave - and when that car isn't even in my videos, that tells me it's probably worth investigating! Thanks for the thorough overview of your rigs, that's interesting stuff.
3:20 "half of this is me trying to talk at the same time" I double dog dare you to throw in "chewing gum" lol......(doing his best scottie imitation) "I canna do eet cap'in"
They are designed for different applications just like their 1:1 equivalent. I prefer the way the Senton handles but I run the Bigrock for the jumps and flips. Pretty much what you said.
Thanks for that video (And part 1!) A friend gave me his 25 y/o Tamiya buggy 1/12 scale.. I've put a 3650 60A combo with a 2S 5500mAh brick in it.. that was fun! We've had fun for hours until the old plastic broke on the rear. Now have to think if replacing broken parts (which don't have normal metric screws) or just building something like wltoys 124016 out from metal parts 😹
Ah I see! Nice one. Tamiya released remakes of many models. You may be able to find the exact replacement you need to fix it. Of course once it's fixed you can always sell it, buy a rlaarlo ar-14 or whatever and keep the change!
Excellent breakdown on classifications. I do own TA Rival, I absolutely love that thing. Would love one of those Sentons! Never owned a Traxxas. Excellent job on this upload my friend!👍🏻😃
I bought a MJX H14BM to get my feet wet in the hobby. After I wear it out I'm going to look at either a Slash/Senton or a Kraton. Love watching these comparison videos.
I absolutely love my Senton and Mojave trucks. On dirt and gravel they are "stupid" fun. On grass they tend to traction roll quite easily so you need some throttle management to avoid doing a lot of walking. I just bought a 30 Degree North DTT-7 1/5th scale SCT and I cannot wait to get an electric motor in it and tear up the park!
Another point I would make if you don't already is that the shortcourse truck will accumulate everything into the chassis from dust, dirt, stones, grass, small animals. I would recommend a netted chassis screen that velcroa around and has a zip to acces battery etc. It almost a life saver for your electrics. Even if your gear is waterproof it doesn't prepare you for the mess that can happen with thes things. Its like every bit of dirt that is thrown up by the wheels is designed to hit the shell wheel arches and land right into the bathtub chassis. Also the inner mudguards you can buy aftermarket do not work but look very cool. Incidentally the team associated cars all come with a net.
Small animals, ah, my sides. Yep, thank you - the net has been discussed on the MT10 video/s and the Senton had a net installed on its upgrade video. The Bandit hasn't needed one. I think my Kraton still has its after-market net too. Makes a difference, eh! Cheers Robert :)
I'd love to chime in with something to add, but I can't because you covered it perfectly! So here's a comment just for the RUclips algorithm then, haha.
Good info decent filming great presentation friendly attitude what's not to like I think people have the RC audience all wrong and think that we're all a bunch of idiots, they make videos aimed for that audience. I can't stand it personally and I know I'm not the only one. this guy is great. 💯👍🏻
Aw thanks. I think of you guys as people just like me who enjoy the hobby, or are interested in it, or just want to know stuff without the marketing frills. Actually makes my job a lot easier this way because I just get to have a chat about it without bowing down to a sponsor or script. Winning 😎
The Traxxas bandit is my favorite vehicle because that was the first rc when I was a kid I had a buggy... I even have a brand new one still in the box brand new bandit VXL but the main reason I don't drive it the same reason you pointed out it just can't handle what the other vehicles do. I drive 2 different stampede's both 2wd & a rustler 2wd! I prefer 2wd with good tires over 4X4 myself
For me you can’t beat the short course truck it can go anywhere. I was just having a blast with a Senton 550 I have it was cheap & I figured when the motor went out I’d upgrade well after running it on 3S it didn’t take long for the motor to die so I got a brushless Castle system in it now and it’s pretty fast now. But ya just a blast & takes a beating.
I really enjoy throwing my senton around a park or dirt the top speed is just mental. The parts are cheap too, it's a hoot. I've only heard good things about the mt10 but I can't think of anywhere to run it.. hence the senton. 👍👍
A really nice comparison video. I have a Senton, although I've monstered it now (huge tyres, bigger brushless system, larger big bore ZD Racing shocks, and cut bodywork). Stock, it handled so nicely on the heathland near me (bumpy, very sandy, and flat grass). The only one of the 3 I have no experience of is the 2wd buggy. I have a 4wd Tamiya Manta Ray that I still run, and that's great over the same heathland, but I'm a lot easier on it!! I've yet to see a bad review of the MT10, although it's bigger brother has a less good reputation!! Between the buggy and the monster truck (as I have the Senton, and a couple of FTX Zorro), I'd have to go for the MT10. It would definitely put a massive smile on mine, and my sons faces. 😎👍🏻 Happy New Year to you all. 🤗
Oh, I remember the Manta Ray! Nice. The MT8 doesn't have a great reputation, that's true. I think they got the MT10 just right. Durable, lightweight, fast and fun! Your Senton sounds beefy, too. Great little platform isn't it. Happy new year to you too :)
I like my senton a lot but I don’t like all the dirt accumulating in the chassis because the body is over the wheels. You are correct they all have there strong points.
I put a typhon body on one of our sentons and made it a Sentyphon 😆 Fixed the dirt issue, but really all you need is a air compressor and it's as good as new.
Happy new year, Craig! All the best! Even I will start building my Elemnt Rc, I enjoy your bashing video. If I was in the chase of a do it all vehicle, a short course truck would my way to go. There is some solid platform available ( Traxxas SLash, Losi Tenaicty, Associated Pro4) and plenty of hop ups and way to make these things evolved. Keep up the good work for the upcoming year. Cheers!
Thanks a lot, Bart! Enjoy your next build and I must agree on the SCT landscape, there's a bunch of amazing choice out there now, eh? Happy RC-ing for 2023 :)
as someone whose first hobby grade RC (with the exception of a couple hosim and WLtoys models) was a senton, i have to say that the best overall machine has to be a SCT. i absolutely love my senton blx, and the only thing ive had to do to it is replace the steering servo as the stock ones are pretty lackluster. i do a good amount of driving on streets as there arent many tracks in my area, so the soft compound tires wear pretty quickly. but boy, with a 5200 MAH 100C LiPo , the 3S senton hauls some serious butt for a good 30 minutes, and takes pretty much any beating you throw at it
It's slow and not hugely strong. I've only just replaced mine recently, it lasted through a bunch of hard bashing. But a faster servo enhances the drive, basically :)
@@P4Andrzej this link will show you the Low Voltage and High Voltage options. I like both of these for a budget option, they've very good: asiate.es/aff?l=190716&i=76070 Or for a more powerful, BEC-driven option, this is my current go-to: asiate.es/aff?l=162618&i=76070
I've got the HV2000 on a bench right now, doing strength testing. That thing is a beast! For the smaller stuff, I've been happy with the 500 and 650 and haven't bothered with the 800 yet. But I will get around to it. Epic servos, the lot of them.
@@RCTNT yeah the 650 looks awesome 👏 but the 800 only £10 more so might go with that, what’s the 2000 going in? Your crawler videos are great 👍🏻 learning new things from the channel plus it’s relaxing to listen to you ramble, while tackling the 6 challenges in the comp stance 😂 keep up the top notch videos
I want my next step into rc to be a short course/pre runner style vehicle. I love the look of the traxxas udr, especially for the scaleness of it Is there any competition that you could recommend with a similar setup to look at?
For sure. I've looked closely at the UDR and may grab one at some point, but I'm more likely to grab the Losi SBR 2.0. It's a shade less scale but arguably more durable and capable. Less scale again but more capable than both these would be the Arrma Mojave. It's also the smallest of the three but easily the toughest and best outright performer. Even so, I expect most would agree that for the scale desert truck experience, it's between the UDR and SBR. That should get you started down the rabbit hole! I'll have videos on these later on the year, definitely the SBR, possibly the UDR and unlikely the mojave, but we'll see how the others go and if there's demand for more :)
I didn't have a truggy in the same scale to include, that's mainly it. There's anther video related to this one that looks at what scale is best for fun and that has two truggies! ruclips.net/video/jJujfFUtMkE/видео.html
i have a buggy absima AB 3.4 4 WD 1/10 scale kit it is super stable and fast and fun but the short course looks super cool hmm hard to chose i need a shortcourse 😂 cheeers 🥳
2 wd buggies take much more skill to run and also (as we talked about) do require a smoother surface. Hard packed dirt is where they shine......They also prone to spin out too in turns and are harder to drift around corners but when you get it down, they are loads of fun. As for jumps: you can do big air but as you said, you have to have a landing ramp and it takes much more control, you have to get your speed and angle right....if you don't have a landing ramp, you have to slow your speed way down so you can stick the landing....when you do though? it's a great feeling.....
I dont know why i love so much that senton it just so fun to drive and bash it i got mine about week ago😃 btw do you know where i can get that bag for the chassic
Glad you're enjoying yours! I got the mesh from AliExpress but I can't recommend it. The zip failed on one side on the first use. There are better quality ones out there but I don't have a link. Search for "senton blx dust" and you'll find them. Look for one with a chunky zipper or with well stitched hook and loop attachment. That would be my advice after buying cheap!
These are truggies - a mix of Monster Truck and Buggies. They give you less of the acrobatic agility of the MT in exchange for more of the higher-speed stability of the Buggy. It's a solid compromise, packing more off-road capability than the typical SCT as well. They're pretty much a well-balanced compromise for off-road fun and some competition too. Really, I should do a follow-up to this video that discusses the history of the truggy and how it's an ideal choice for people seeking the best 'all-rounder' solution for bashing. Thanks for the idea!
@@RCTNT thanks and i would love to see that video . I just ordered my first RC to test out my thoughts and desires . I ordered a carbon fiber rlaarlio terminator since it went on sale for $218…..but I really wanted an arma Vorteks or Traxxas rustler but that was going to be double the money just to power up and this truck comes with it all. So I’m testing the waters with terminator and may lower the suspension with the droop screws just to increase stability
Sounds like a plan. If I understand correctly, the Omniterminator is a 1/12 sized thing, as opposed to the others you were considering. But again, the value seems to be there, yes. I haven't seen one yet but they're apparently decent. Enjoy the process!
Excellent review, as always. I like the AWD/4WD buggies better than the 2WD ones, but they're both a lot of fun on the right ground. the other two types... they're just fun basically anywhere. I always wanted to get a short course truck, just don't really have anywhere to run it near us. About all that works well in our area is monster trucks and crawlers. I'm not really sure where it falls in the monster truck/truggy/basher lineup, but I'd like to see your take on the Traxxas Revo. I know you're not super big on the Nitro stuff, so that leaves the Revo 3.3 out (my personal favourite) but what about the E-Revo? Maybe you can have a go with one of those sometime in the future? I find that weird inboard cantilever suspension system fascinating and just, well, plain weird. I really like how it feels and handles. It's different from everything else out there. Better? I couldn't say, I don't have enough experience to know. But it's definitely an odd duck.
SCTs are quite flexible for locations, though arguably MTs give you the most flexibility. I'm considering a Revo 3.3, have been for a while. Their electric start and low weight are compelling for a nitro basher. Probably won't ever get an E-Revo as they're old tech now and their weak points have been addressed in the newer stuff from Traxxas. However, the video after next (Jan 13th publication date) will cover a pair of cars that have a similar cantilever suspension system. They're fine when they work, at least!
@@RCTNT the one thing the short course truck does not do well in, and the monster truck does, is tall grass/weeds/vegetation over heavily rutted plowed ground... which is all we have around here, except for the roads, which just aren't interesting for something like that. monster trucks don't thrive in this crap, but at least they can get through it and be fun, I used to have a really early monster truck from the late '80s that did okay. short course trucks tend to high center on the plants it can't crush down, and they just get stuck. repeatedly. glad to hear you're looking at the revo 3.3, that thing is a blast, the guys I know who have one love it. probably will be my next addition to the ground fleet, maybe sometime next year. or the year after. we'll see. i don't know anything about the e-revo other than it's an electrified version of the 3.3, but since I don't want a revo without nitro, that's as far as I looked into it. super excited to see the upcoming video with the similar suspension type cars. I didn't know the design had been cloned, so this will be a new experience.
Gotcha! Yeah I'm seriously considering a Revo 3.3 soon but we'll see. Have a list of 8 or 10 vehicles I want to get through so far this year so I'll have to budget and map all that. The suspension in the car we're looking at wasn't cloned. You'll see!
Heh, it was certainly unintentional. Fwiw, "tumble wumble" is part of British and Australian language. It's a very British thing to say, to my ear. No doubt, Talbot put that in my head, so he'll be the influence there. I didn't even notice I said it, so I guess he's done a good job!
I'm a 43 year old Aussie and I'm sure I've heard it before, many a time. Kevvy just made it an RC household phrase, I guess! As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I can own that 😊 He definitely earned it!
Largely yes, but on my first run the spur gear broke. It was a manufacturing defect, replaced under warranty, and these things happen with any manufacturer. Overall, the main weakness I've found is the steering servo. It isn't strong enough to last beyond 8 or 10 runs, so factor a better one into your upgrade budget in the weeks or months after you get it. Overall though, definitely a durable machine, no question 👍
@owen8538 the servo is the weak point for many vehicles, even most RTRs. The rest of the vehicle is excellent. I've made a few changes but they're just for skate park durability, such as the split drive shaft mod that tolerates chassis flex on bad landings. I'm happy with it.
I am looking to get a car. I had a sand scorcher in about 82 and regret selling it! I have been watching vids on yt looking for a car to buy and the mt10 keeps getting my attention, either that or a big rock. It seems to me that all the vids of peeps driving the mt10, they are always enjoying it and laughing!
I can't speak to the big rock yet but the MT10 really fulfils is brief well. She's a tough one. I have a review linked in this video description if you haven't seen it. I recommend it if you're after a durable and fun basher!
Haha two of the three are, certainly. The Bandit needs a little more regular care and attention, but it's lower speed helps keep it out of too much trouble!
@@RCTNT nah bro i apologize for only acknowledging one little mistake in a video full of good info. We've all heard the kv misinfo and most of us have believed it. i was just in a pedantic mood, which for such a pedant as myself can lead to excessive pedantry.
Haha fair enough Hey, YT shows me people's account names in Studio here, rather than whatever current display name they're using (to help with spam and member management etc). I had an SV650S on which I put about 40k km, about a third of that was touring (the rest was commuting across Melbourne for a year or two). Had a great time on that bike. Perfect size. I'm looking at bikes again, though I'm still a year or two away from being back on one. I'm liking the new V-strom 800DE, though I do love my short stroke v-twins! You still have yours?
@@RCTNT mine was a 2001 (bought lightly used in 2002) non-S, an absolute classic. No vehicle I've owned has ever made me so happy. Not only was it lighter than sportbikes, but the weight distribution and lovely ergonomics amplified the feeling of lightness. I may have had touring ambitions but tbh it was mostly for commuting. It was the only time in my life i actually enjoyed my commute. I'm just glad I got in on the good times, back then because bikes today are just awful. I'm sure there's some curmudgeon in there, but mostly bikes are just cheapened with worse specs than 20y ago.
Oh really? That's not great to hear! My sv was a 2003 and I loved it. It was the newest bike I ever had. It made my commute positively invigorating, too. 1h30m in a cage or 50 min on the bike. Good times, they were. I guess I'll have to start looking around at what's out there. I'd have thought things would be better than ever today but maybe they're not. Hmm.
That's 100% accurate some of the time. Anything in particular from this video you think I could have done better or is this just a general observation? 🫣
Defo not 2wd buggies, for me bro, i have senton blx, & rival mt10 v2, but i changed esc in mt10 for hobbywing max 10 ezrun esc, mt10 is Defo better in my garden, then the senton, but not all backyards are the same, lol 😁😉👍
This is very true. I've got a video about which scale is best, too: ruclips.net/video/jJujfFUtMkE/видео.html Where you're driving makes a big difference, I agree! Glad you're enjoying your cars 🤗
Heh, nice. Been looking at the Mojave... and the UDR... and the SBR 2.0... and I think SBR might have it, but the Mojave is undoubtedly the best technical performer of them. Decisions!!
@@RCTNT Mojave is great, but its mechanical layout screams buggy in disguise to me. Definitely the simplest and easiest to work on, but the Losi is really built like a tank... Which is NOT what anybody says about the - albeit, ultrascale- UDR. Decisions, decisions... What a great dilema to have, eh? 🙂
We're going to find out soon - I have the 3s BLX already and a brand new slash 4x4 VXL is now here awaiting unboxing and review. I'm looking forward to comparing them directly.
Nothing wrong with a Slash! I mean, ok, it needs alu shock caps, which it really should have come with. But everything from that point is optional (though sway bars are a big step up, too! And the Slash is crazily expensive in Australia, too. But it's still a great car 😊)
a sct this good power , good offroad and basch ,.. is durable ,..and upgrade but the rival 1:10 is king in monster trucks 1:10,.. very durable e very good power ,.. but , for the price 1 rustler 2wd upagrade is a fantastic car rc ,... simple ,.. durable ... good speed ,.. i want buy 1 rustler 2wd led light xl5 ,... new version ,.. is fantastic look ,..and historic model of traxxas ,.... sorry my ingles ,..
I think this video is helpful for people trying to make a choice. I have consistently seen positive reviews of the MT10. If someone wants to race then the Senton may be a good choice because tracks often offer a 4WD SCT class, which is often the most brutal. So, it has to be durable. The price between the MT10 and Senton seem to be about the same. Then a choice may come down to availability of parts. On line it probably doesn't make much difference, but it may be different at the local hobby shop.
I didn't mention clubs as this one is about backyard bashing, but that's a great point.
Parts availability is down to the manufacturer but both of these have plenty online, which tells me any local hobby shop could carry the parts if they chose to support that brand.
I picked up a Senton puttin monster truck tires on it
This was a great comparison video. Thank you so much. Subscribed
Oh nice, glad you enjoyed it! Cheers
I have the Senton and MT10 out of this group. Never broken either (my 3 year old plays with them the most) after nearly 2 years. The MT10 sticks out to me as the best option of all for versatility and durability. I almost always replace tires with aftermarket rubber but the stock tires are as perfect as they come. No stock tires have lasted as long as them. The 3 diffs are super easy to get to and tuning them has made it an absolute monster. I even put paddle tires on it and we bash it in the snow during the winter with never a single issue.
The Senton is now on belted Powerhobby tires after the stock tires blew out almost immediately and then we blew out Duratrax tires as well. Also the Senton NEEDED diff tuning just to keep it stable. My 3 year old just rips it around on ball fields mostly but it's had a fair share of air time and never had an issue. So I did the logical thing and got a Mojave as well.
Some great info here, thank you!
I keep reading positive comments about the Mojave - and when that car isn't even in my videos, that tells me it's probably worth investigating! Thanks for the thorough overview of your rigs, that's interesting stuff.
3:20 "half of this is me trying to talk at the same time" I double dog dare you to throw in "chewing gum" lol......(doing his best scottie imitation) "I canna do eet cap'in"
Haha it's a limitation to work with, yeah!
They are designed for different applications just like their 1:1 equivalent. I prefer the way the Senton handles but I run the Bigrock for the jumps and flips. Pretty much what you said.
Thanks for that video (And part 1!)
A friend gave me his 25 y/o Tamiya buggy 1/12 scale..
I've put a 3650 60A combo with a 2S 5500mAh brick in it.. that was fun!
We've had fun for hours until the old plastic broke on the rear.
Now have to think if replacing broken parts (which don't have normal metric screws) or just building something like wltoys 124016 out from metal parts 😹
Ah I see! Nice one. Tamiya released remakes of many models. You may be able to find the exact replacement you need to fix it.
Of course once it's fixed you can always sell it, buy a rlaarlo ar-14 or whatever and keep the change!
Excellent breakdown on classifications. I do own TA Rival, I absolutely love that thing. Would love one of those Sentons! Never owned a Traxxas. Excellent job on this upload my friend!👍🏻😃
Awesome, thanks :)
I bought a MJX H14BM to get my feet wet in the hobby. After I wear it out I'm going to look at either a Slash/Senton or a Kraton. Love watching these comparison videos.
Nice. Sounds like you're having fun if you're planning on wearing it out!
You earnt a sub, W AUSSIE, good to see a fellow aussie rc driver. Good video.
Hey thanks!
I absolutely love my Senton and Mojave trucks. On dirt and gravel they are "stupid" fun. On grass they tend to traction roll quite easily so you need some throttle management to avoid doing a lot of walking. I just bought a 30 Degree North DTT-7 1/5th scale SCT and I cannot wait to get an electric motor in it and tear up the park!
Oh sweet, that'll be great. Larger scale stuff is just special.
@@RCTNT I hope the HW Max5 & the 1100KV will haul it around like it does for my 8S Outcast. If not....I may need 800KV.
I bet it'll be just right! That's a good rating. 800 better but 1100 is still low enough for that thing, I reckon.
Thanks for the video, good comparison of abilities and behaviour.
My pleasure, thanks for the feedback!
Now you made me want to go out in the cold run a few of my RCs! Great vid, thanks!
You should! Do it :D
Another point I would make if you don't already is that the shortcourse truck will accumulate everything into the chassis from dust, dirt, stones, grass, small animals. I would recommend a netted chassis screen that velcroa around and has a zip to acces battery etc. It almost a life saver for your electrics. Even if your gear is waterproof it doesn't prepare you for the mess that can happen with thes things. Its like every bit of dirt that is thrown up by the wheels is designed to hit the shell wheel arches and land right into the bathtub chassis. Also the inner mudguards you can buy aftermarket do not work but look very cool. Incidentally the team associated cars all come with a net.
Small animals, ah, my sides. Yep, thank you - the net has been discussed on the MT10 video/s and the Senton had a net installed on its upgrade video. The Bandit hasn't needed one. I think my Kraton still has its after-market net too. Makes a difference, eh! Cheers Robert :)
I’d love to see a comparison of the MT10 vs Hoss vs Mini Max. Loving your bash comparison vids. First one on sizes brought me to this one
That would mean having to buy the Hoss and Mini Max, which is a big investment in Australia! I'll think about it. Thanks for the idea!
I'd love to chime in with something to add, but I can't because you covered it perfectly! So here's a comment just for the RUclips algorithm then, haha.
Lol thanks :)
Good info decent filming great presentation friendly attitude what's not to like
I think people have the RC audience all wrong and think that we're all a bunch of idiots, they make videos aimed for that audience. I can't stand it personally and I know I'm not the only one. this guy is great. 💯👍🏻
Aw thanks. I think of you guys as people just like me who enjoy the hobby, or are interested in it, or just want to know stuff without the marketing frills. Actually makes my job a lot easier this way because I just get to have a chat about it without bowing down to a sponsor or script. Winning 😎
I think he should have more subscribers than other RC youtubers
Thank you. Takes time to build a channel and I'm only a few years in. We'll get there!
The Traxxas bandit is my favorite vehicle because that was the first rc when I was a kid I had a buggy... I even have a brand new one still in the box brand new bandit VXL but the main reason I don't drive it the same reason you pointed out it just can't handle what the other vehicles do. I drive 2 different stampede's both 2wd & a rustler 2wd! I prefer 2wd with good tires over 4X4 myself
Nice. Stadium trucks have a place in my heart as the first kit I built was a Stadium Blitzer. Good memories :)
For me you can’t beat the short course truck it can go anywhere. I was just having a blast with a Senton 550 I have it was cheap & I figured when the motor went out I’d upgrade well after running it on 3S it didn’t take long for the motor to die so I got a brushless Castle system in it now and it’s pretty fast now. But ya just a blast & takes a beating.
Ah, that's awesome. Nearly indestructible with normal use, too. Glad you're enjoying yours!
I really enjoy throwing my senton around a park or dirt the top speed is just mental. The parts are cheap too, it's a hoot. I've only heard good things about the mt10 but I can't think of anywhere to run it.. hence the senton. 👍👍
Nicely put. The Senton is a great car, even with no center diff. Glad you're enjoying yours :)
A really nice comparison video. I have a Senton, although I've monstered it now (huge tyres, bigger brushless system, larger big bore ZD Racing shocks, and cut bodywork). Stock, it handled so nicely on the heathland near me (bumpy, very sandy, and flat grass).
The only one of the 3 I have no experience of is the 2wd buggy. I have a 4wd Tamiya Manta Ray that I still run, and that's great over the same heathland, but I'm a lot easier on it!!
I've yet to see a bad review of the MT10, although it's bigger brother has a less good reputation!!
Between the buggy and the monster truck (as I have the Senton, and a couple of FTX Zorro), I'd have to go for the MT10. It would definitely put a massive smile on mine, and my sons faces. 😎👍🏻
Happy New Year to you all. 🤗
Oh, I remember the Manta Ray! Nice.
The MT8 doesn't have a great reputation, that's true. I think they got the MT10 just right. Durable, lightweight, fast and fun!
Your Senton sounds beefy, too. Great little platform isn't it. Happy new year to you too :)
I like my senton a lot but I don’t like all the dirt accumulating in the chassis because the body is over the wheels. You are correct they all have there strong points.
That's a SCT thing especially, isn't it. Gravel and grass all through it, every run. Heh
@@RCTNT Yeah, even worse when it's wet outside
For sure. Fun though.
I put a typhon body on one of our sentons and made it a Sentyphon 😆 Fixed the dirt issue, but really all you need is a air compressor and it's as good as new.
Oh nice! I hit all my cars with air after a run. Super easy clean up, you're totally right!
Happy new year, Craig! All the best! Even I will start building my Elemnt Rc, I enjoy your bashing video. If I was in the chase of a do it all vehicle, a short course truck would my way to go. There is some solid platform available ( Traxxas SLash, Losi Tenaicty, Associated Pro4) and plenty of hop ups and way to make these things evolved. Keep up the good work for the upcoming year. Cheers!
Thanks a lot, Bart! Enjoy your next build and I must agree on the SCT landscape, there's a bunch of amazing choice out there now, eh? Happy RC-ing for 2023 :)
as someone whose first hobby grade RC (with the exception of a couple hosim and WLtoys models) was a senton, i have to say that the best overall machine has to be a SCT. i absolutely love my senton blx, and the only thing ive had to do to it is replace the steering servo as the stock ones are pretty lackluster. i do a good amount of driving on streets as there arent many tracks in my area, so the soft compound tires wear pretty quickly. but boy, with a 5200 MAH 100C LiPo , the 3S senton hauls some serious butt for a good 30 minutes, and takes pretty much any beating you throw at it
Nice. It's a truly rugged platform and plenty fast. Glad you're enjoying yours :)
Whats wrong with stock servo? I bought senton 3sblx, only issue i noticed, its prone to catch stones near steering arms which blocks steering system
It's slow and not hugely strong. I've only just replaced mine recently, it lasted through a bunch of hard bashing. But a faster servo enhances the drive, basically :)
@@RCTNT what servo can you recomend? Srt or somrthing else?
@@P4Andrzej this link will show you the Low Voltage and High Voltage options. I like both of these for a budget option, they've very good: asiate.es/aff?l=190716&i=76070
Or for a more powerful, BEC-driven option, this is my current go-to: asiate.es/aff?l=162618&i=76070
Your back yard is awesome 👏 got the v1 senton and maxx v2 for my bashing, but been spending all my money on my crawlers 😅
Haha yes I know how that goes! Crawlers eat the budget and everything else gets the crumbs
@@RCTNT take it you’ve seen the new 800 from Holmes😛 we better get saving 👍🏻
I've got the HV2000 on a bench right now, doing strength testing. That thing is a beast!
For the smaller stuff, I've been happy with the 500 and 650 and haven't bothered with the 800 yet. But I will get around to it. Epic servos, the lot of them.
@@RCTNT yeah the 650 looks awesome 👏 but the 800 only £10 more so might go with that, what’s the 2000 going in? Your crawler videos are great 👍🏻 learning new things from the channel plus it’s relaxing to listen to you ramble, while tackling the 6 challenges in the comp stance 😂 keep up the top notch videos
Heh thanks
HV2000 goes into the Scx6 I think
Cheers!
Thank you for another excellent video
And thank you for watching and letting me know!
I want my next step into rc to be a short course/pre runner style vehicle.
I love the look of the traxxas udr, especially for the scaleness of it
Is there any competition that you could recommend with a similar setup to look at?
For sure. I've looked closely at the UDR and may grab one at some point, but I'm more likely to grab the Losi SBR 2.0. It's a shade less scale but arguably more durable and capable. Less scale again but more capable than both these would be the Arrma Mojave. It's also the smallest of the three but easily the toughest and best outright performer.
Even so, I expect most would agree that for the scale desert truck experience, it's between the UDR and SBR. That should get you started down the rabbit hole!
I'll have videos on these later on the year, definitely the SBR, possibly the UDR and unlikely the mojave, but we'll see how the others go and if there's demand for more :)
@@RCTNT legend, thank you.
lunchbox!!!!! is my fav backyard basher
I remember drooling over that in the early 90s. Must get around to building one of the re-res.
What about truggies? Why is this category not covered in this video? Seems like a nice compromise between monster truck and buggy.
I didn't have a truggy in the same scale to include, that's mainly it. There's anther video related to this one that looks at what scale is best for fun and that has two truggies!
ruclips.net/video/jJujfFUtMkE/видео.html
i have a buggy absima AB 3.4 4 WD 1/10 scale kit it is super stable and fast and fun but the short course looks super cool hmm hard to chose i need a shortcourse 😂 cheeers 🥳
Thanks for the model, I've been meaning to get a few more buggies to try. But yes, SCT is a fun platform!
2 wd buggies take much more skill to run and also (as we talked about) do require a smoother surface. Hard packed dirt is where they shine......They also prone to spin out too in turns and are harder to drift around corners but when you get it down, they are loads of fun.
As for jumps: you can do big air but as you said, you have to have a landing ramp and it takes much more control, you have to get your speed and angle right....if you don't have a landing ramp, you have to slow your speed way down so you can stick the landing....when you do though? it's a great feeling.....
Totally agreed on all counts. Buggies were an amazing discovery in my RC experience, they're really something else.
Thanks for sharing good video~
I dont know why i love so much that senton it just so fun to drive and bash it i got mine about week ago😃 btw do you know where i can get that bag for the chassic
Glad you're enjoying yours! I got the mesh from AliExpress but I can't recommend it. The zip failed on one side on the first use. There are better quality ones out there but I don't have a link. Search for "senton blx dust" and you'll find them. Look for one with a chunky zipper or with well stitched hook and loop attachment. That would be my advice after buying cheap!
New armas are goated
Where does something like the Arma Vorteks or Traxxas rustler fit in?
These are truggies - a mix of Monster Truck and Buggies. They give you less of the acrobatic agility of the MT in exchange for more of the higher-speed stability of the Buggy. It's a solid compromise, packing more off-road capability than the typical SCT as well.
They're pretty much a well-balanced compromise for off-road fun and some competition too. Really, I should do a follow-up to this video that discusses the history of the truggy and how it's an ideal choice for people seeking the best 'all-rounder' solution for bashing.
Thanks for the idea!
@@RCTNT thanks and i would love to see that video . I just ordered my first RC to test out my thoughts and desires . I ordered a carbon fiber rlaarlio terminator since it went on sale for $218…..but I really wanted an arma Vorteks or Traxxas rustler but that was going to be double the money just to power up and this truck comes with it all. So I’m testing the waters with terminator and may lower the suspension with the droop screws just to increase stability
Sounds like a plan. If I understand correctly, the Omniterminator is a 1/12 sized thing, as opposed to the others you were considering. But again, the value seems to be there, yes. I haven't seen one yet but they're apparently decent. Enjoy the process!
Truggy is perfect for me.
Truggy is a great compromise! I love mine too :)
Excellent review, as always. I like the AWD/4WD buggies better than the 2WD ones, but they're both a lot of fun on the right ground. the other two types... they're just fun basically anywhere. I always wanted to get a short course truck, just don't really have anywhere to run it near us. About all that works well in our area is monster trucks and crawlers.
I'm not really sure where it falls in the monster truck/truggy/basher lineup, but I'd like to see your take on the Traxxas Revo. I know you're not super big on the Nitro stuff, so that leaves the Revo 3.3 out (my personal favourite) but what about the E-Revo? Maybe you can have a go with one of those sometime in the future?
I find that weird inboard cantilever suspension system fascinating and just, well, plain weird. I really like how it feels and handles. It's different from everything else out there. Better? I couldn't say, I don't have enough experience to know. But it's definitely an odd duck.
SCTs are quite flexible for locations, though arguably MTs give you the most flexibility.
I'm considering a Revo 3.3, have been for a while. Their electric start and low weight are compelling for a nitro basher. Probably won't ever get an E-Revo as they're old tech now and their weak points have been addressed in the newer stuff from Traxxas.
However, the video after next (Jan 13th publication date) will cover a pair of cars that have a similar cantilever suspension system. They're fine when they work, at least!
@@RCTNT the one thing the short course truck does not do well in, and the monster truck does, is tall grass/weeds/vegetation over heavily rutted plowed ground... which is all we have around here, except for the roads, which just aren't interesting for something like that. monster trucks don't thrive in this crap, but at least they can get through it and be fun, I used to have a really early monster truck from the late '80s that did okay. short course trucks tend to high center on the plants it can't crush down, and they just get stuck. repeatedly.
glad to hear you're looking at the revo 3.3, that thing is a blast, the guys I know who have one love it. probably will be my next addition to the ground fleet, maybe sometime next year. or the year after. we'll see. i don't know anything about the e-revo other than it's an electrified version of the 3.3, but since I don't want a revo without nitro, that's as far as I looked into it.
super excited to see the upcoming video with the similar suspension type cars. I didn't know the design had been cloned, so this will be a new experience.
Gotcha! Yeah I'm seriously considering a Revo 3.3 soon but we'll see. Have a list of 8 or 10 vehicles I want to get through so far this year so I'll have to budget and map all that.
The suspension in the car we're looking at wasn't cloned. You'll see!
Great comparison and I love your back yard for Rc cars .Greetings from Northern Europe...Harry
Thanks Harry, I'm grateful every day to be here :) Cheers
You should try the Typhon 3s or 6s
Might do that at some point, yeah. The Kraton 6S has scratched that itch so far but I see the appeal!
Not ripping of Kevin Talbot much with the tumble Wimbledon much 😂😂
Heh, it was certainly unintentional. Fwiw, "tumble wumble" is part of British and Australian language. It's a very British thing to say, to my ear. No doubt, Talbot put that in my head, so he'll be the influence there. I didn't even notice I said it, so I guess he's done a good job!
@RCTNT funny I'm a 43 Yr old English man I've never said or heard the phrase until I watched Kevin Talbot 😂 not that British fella ...
I'm a 43 year old Aussie and I'm sure I've heard it before, many a time. Kevvy just made it an RC household phrase, I guess!
As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I can own that 😊 He definitely earned it!
Kev has made me say SOOO much stuff, I even say footage when flipping stuff now lol, and gameover when it brakes
When I start saying "we got crew in da house!" we'll know it's time for a Kev break!
Truggy!
Truggy 😎
The thinking man's compromise.
Are the x maxx very reliable drive train s
Largely yes, but on my first run the spur gear broke. It was a manufacturing defect, replaced under warranty, and these things happen with any manufacturer. Overall, the main weakness I've found is the steering servo. It isn't strong enough to last beyond 8 or 10 runs, so factor a better one into your upgrade budget in the weeks or months after you get it. Overall though, definitely a durable machine, no question 👍
@RCTNT seriously big truck like that 1000quid should be bullet proof disappointing won't bother get one yet
@owen8538 the servo is the weak point for many vehicles, even most RTRs. The rest of the vehicle is excellent. I've made a few changes but they're just for skate park durability, such as the split drive shaft mod that tolerates chassis flex on bad landings. I'm happy with it.
I am looking to get a car. I had a sand scorcher in about 82 and regret selling it! I have been watching vids on yt looking for a car to buy and the mt10 keeps getting my attention, either that or a big rock. It seems to me that all the vids of peeps driving the mt10, they are always enjoying it and laughing!
I can't speak to the big rock yet but the MT10 really fulfils is brief well. She's a tough one. I have a review linked in this video description if you haven't seen it. I recommend it if you're after a durable and fun basher!
Build to last....😮
Haha two of the three are, certainly. The Bandit needs a little more regular care and attention, but it's lower speed helps keep it out of too much trouble!
All else being equal, the 3500kv will have higher top speed AND faster acceleration than 3100kv.
Yep, quite right. It's been a while since I made this video and if I stated otherwise, I was wrong. Thanks for picking up on that.
@@RCTNT nah bro i apologize for only acknowledging one little mistake in a video full of good info. We've all heard the kv misinfo and most of us have believed it. i was just in a pedantic mood, which for such a pedant as myself can lead to excessive pedantry.
Haha fair enough
Hey, YT shows me people's account names in Studio here, rather than whatever current display name they're using (to help with spam and member management etc). I had an SV650S on which I put about 40k km, about a third of that was touring (the rest was commuting across Melbourne for a year or two). Had a great time on that bike. Perfect size. I'm looking at bikes again, though I'm still a year or two away from being back on one. I'm liking the new V-strom 800DE, though I do love my short stroke v-twins! You still have yours?
@@RCTNT mine was a 2001 (bought lightly used in 2002) non-S, an absolute classic. No vehicle I've owned has ever made me so happy. Not only was it lighter than sportbikes, but the weight distribution and lovely ergonomics amplified the feeling of lightness. I may have had touring ambitions but tbh it was mostly for commuting. It was the only time in my life i actually enjoyed my commute. I'm just glad I got in on the good times, back then because bikes today are just awful. I'm sure there's some curmudgeon in there, but mostly bikes are just cheapened with worse specs than 20y ago.
Oh really? That's not great to hear! My sv was a 2003 and I loved it. It was the newest bike I ever had. It made my commute positively invigorating, too. 1h30m in a cage or 50 min on the bike. Good times, they were.
I guess I'll have to start looking around at what's out there. I'd have thought things would be better than ever today but maybe they're not. Hmm.
You’re Silly!!!
That's 100% accurate some of the time. Anything in particular from this video you think I could have done better or is this just a general observation? 🫣
Defo not 2wd buggies, for me bro, i have senton blx, & rival mt10 v2, but i changed esc in mt10 for hobbywing max 10 ezrun esc, mt10 is Defo better in my garden, then the senton, but not all backyards are the same, lol 😁😉👍
This is very true. I've got a video about which scale is best, too:
ruclips.net/video/jJujfFUtMkE/видео.html
Where you're driving makes a big difference, I agree! Glad you're enjoying your cars 🤗
Senton/Traxxas Slash 4x4 ftw :) Then buy a Mojave 😎👍
Heh, nice. Been looking at the Mojave... and the UDR... and the SBR 2.0... and I think SBR might have it, but the Mojave is undoubtedly the best technical performer of them. Decisions!!
@@RCTNT 🤣😂😏
@@RCTNT Mojave is great, but its mechanical layout screams buggy in disguise to me.
Definitely the simplest and easiest to work on, but the Losi is really built like a tank... Which is NOT what anybody says about the - albeit, ultrascale- UDR.
Decisions, decisions... What a great dilema to have, eh? 🙂
Why not both.jpg
@@RCTNTor all three? I was aiming for that, but "money's too tight to mention.mp3"😂👌🏻
Senton is better than slash all day
We're going to find out soon - I have the 3s BLX already and a brand new slash 4x4 VXL is now here awaiting unboxing and review. I'm looking forward to comparing them directly.
I only got a slash
Nothing wrong with a Slash!
I mean, ok, it needs alu shock caps, which it really should have come with. But everything from that point is optional (though sway bars are a big step up, too! And the Slash is crazily expensive in Australia, too. But it's still a great car 😊)
a sct this good power , good offroad and basch ,.. is durable ,..and upgrade but the rival 1:10 is king in monster trucks 1:10,.. very durable e very good power ,.. but , for the price 1 rustler 2wd upagrade is a fantastic car rc ,... simple ,.. durable ... good speed ,.. i want buy 1 rustler 2wd led light xl5 ,... new version ,.. is fantastic look ,..and historic model of traxxas ,.... sorry my ingles ,..
Rustler is a great choice, yes!