I also see the “he’s your dad too” line as an acceptance of jinx as her sister, which is what jinx wanted (and needed) from vi the most. What an incredible scene.
It's absolutely essential that it's Vi who invites Jinx to the embrace, instead of Jinx eventually summoning the courage to join it herself. It undoes the otherwise permanent damage they've done to each other's relationships, and Vander's monstrous form puts in perspective that despite the monsters they have all become, in spite of it all they can still love one another and recognize each other as family. Must not have been 'paced' correctly though 🤡🥴
I assumed Jinx was terrified in the dark because she "jinxes" everyone close to her, and maybe led Vi to her death. But Vi was embracing Vander. This reassured within Jinx two things: 1. She is not delusional as Vi claimed earlier ("Vander is dead, you're delusional") thus she can trust in her own perceptions 2. She is not a jinx or a curse, her actions can lead to beautiful things happening. Trusting in her will not necessarily lead to misery. Powder/Jinx had been yearning for this to happen. For Vi to trust her, to believe her, and for her own judgement to lead to good things
"She is not a jinx or a curse, her actions can lead to beautiful things happening." Jinx might have a hard time convincing herself of that after what just happened
ohhhh i love this! clap clap makes sense to me! I loved the animation of her expression when she was in the dark! They're SO incredible at animating expressions!!!!
Honestly? I think it will be a happy ending. Jinx and Vi are getting along, and even though things look bad after Isha, I'm pretty sure that the climax will be Jinx and Vi working together. I don't think Jayce and Victor are going to get along, but the two sisters are going to work out, and that's good enough for me.
Their relationship is so tragic. And the song "What have they done to us" in that scene is just killing me with it's lyrics😭😭😭 They just wanted to be a happy familly, but the circumstances they were all put in just didn't give them a chance💔💔💔
"Violet you've got a good heart. Don't ever lose it, no matter how hard the world tries to break you. Protect the family." Vi literaly said "He's gonna kill you" while running into a 2meters monster that can slash you in half in a single blow. Vander was right, she has such good heart, able to forgive everyone whatever the pain she suffured.
I won't fully recover if Vi and Jinx don't get the "together again" happy ending at the end of the show. The show owes it to Vi, one of the few characters who went through a lot of pain yet never decided to show a dark side of her. The only times she made poor decisions was breaking through Jayce's lab when they were young, and when she decides to punish herself in season 2 act 2.
I think it reframes everything Silco ever told Jinx about their own failed revolution. Vander wasn't the malicious betrayer and he didn't work with the Enforcers because he gave up on an independent Zaun. He was a man who deeply regretted his actions and worked toward a peaceful solution. Vander and Silco wanted the same thing but they just had two different ways of achieving it.
That’s why the scene where Silco talks to his statue in season 1 hits so fucking hard man. He finally realized why Vander would be so determined not to fight anymore, why after commuting such a horrific act of violence against Silco he could still preach peace. Silco could’ve had everything he wanted if he gave up Jinx, but he couldn’t bring himself to abandon his daughter. This damn show man 💔
Learning that Silco was going to casually murder his dead friends kids as steps B and C to a plan for getting personal power reframes things pretty heavily too. He knew those kids, he knew their mother, and the only reason he didn't unceremoniously butcher both of them was the fact one fought like hell to stop him, and the other lucked into triggering his narcissism.
As a grown man of thirty years, I am wholly unashamed to say that I was ugly crying at this scene. Big fat, ugly tears rolling down my cheeks. It really was a beautiful scene and it wasn’t until my second watch through that I realized the letter was a direct parallel to Jinx and Vi. Like you said, there really isn’t another story like it. Arcane sits, amongst others, at the peak of story telling.
I love that the hug scene is one of the rare moments the show breaks with its "grim-dark" theme. (grim-dark = characters are punished for trying to do the right thing) In this moment we fear Vander killed Vi, because the show proved to us many times it is very possible for tragedy to happen. Vander killing Vi in that moment would have been absolutely devastatig. And that is why the hug feels so cathartic. Relief + hope + healing. I cried. Of course we'll be hit with tragedy again soon enough, in order for these rare moments to feel so painfully sweet and fragile.
So fantastically pointed out that how Vander's letter describes Vi and Jinx. Season 1 makes it clear that those two inherit the "family" conflict between Vander and Silco, and it's been my belief that you can use the dynamic between the sisters to infer the dynamic of the brothers. When we see the conflict between Vi and Jinx develop in season 1, we were also learning more about Silco and Vander. Sure, Silco said Vander betrayed him, but I don't think a lot of us sympathized with Silco in S1E3. However, we empathized with Powder when Vi hit her, and Vi realized she was making a mistake. They then gave us 3 years to infer that this is how Silco experienced Vander's betrayal before confirming it with the letter. To me it's another example where the writers tell us "see, it was the same as with Vi and Jinx all along, did you make the connection yet?"
Something worth of note as well because I'm uncertain if the creators did this intentionally. When Jinx is reading the letter with Vi at her back, the shadow Vi casts on the wall matches Vander's silhouette.
Jinx : “Enforcer Vi, you’re under arrest! 😜😜😜😜😜😜” Vi : “GET OVER HERE! You idiot…I got no more supplies…of that lipstick…” - Who framed Roger Rabbit reference
I dunno. I've never been this deeply emotionally involved in a show for a long time. It's good to know you're not eternally jaded and dead inside. That's like therapy.
Also, Isha loaded three hex spheres into the gun, much like Powder she used with her monkey bomb that once derailed the entire storyline. But this time, Isha turns the tide, saving the day by sacrificing herself for everyone else-a true act of redemption for Powder through Isha
and the other thing when Warwick comes barrelling down the hall Vi puts herself between him and Jinx and says "he's going to kill you" not "you lied" or "he's going to kill me" Vi still loved her sister and even thought they have hurt each other they still consciously or not still protect each other when it matters Vi when she listened to Jinx "trust me" and Vi when she stood in front of them
I literally ugly cried during the "he's your dad too" scene. My wife, not interested in the show said, "why are you crying at the cartoon?" Had to take a week off from her, she wouldn't understand haha
Feels like its a little less clean of a parallel when the "dirt" is that Vi smacked Powder once, while Powder turned into John Doe from Seven last season.
you are misunderstanding what happened from powder's perspective. Vi hit powder and left. She tried to go back, but got thrown in jail. Powder doesn't know that. She became jinx because she thought Vi abandoned her. She has severe abandonment issues, probably from losing her parents at a young age. It's why she clings so tightly to vi as a child and its why she replaces her with Silco.
@@flowchartkenYT I understand that Powder feels Vi abandoned her and doesn't know thats not true until E6 of last season. I understand thats the source of Powders issues with Vi and that those issues are exacerbated by Silco's gaslighting. What I'm saying is that the comparison pretty much ignores that the source of Vi's issues with Powder aren't merely that she caused the death of a loved one, but that she's since become a serial killer who's butchered a lot of Zaunites in service to the man that murdered their family, tried to gun down Vi herself in cold blood within minutes of reuniting and tried to coerce Vi into murdering Cait in a display of truly unhinged emotional blackmail before committing an act of mass murder. There's a pretty huge disparity between what Vi did to Powder as a half-beaten-to-death-tweenager, and what Powder has done to Vi and others as an (admittedly mentally unwell) young adult since then. and while Powder has now gotten an explanation for what happened from Vi.. Powder has given Vi absolutely nothing for her own actions. Unlike Silco himself, deranged as he was, Powder doesn't even claim to be motivated by a desire for revolution. All the blood on her hands in S1, and her attempted murder of Vi, just came from her trying to please Silco because her toxic codependency on him was her coping mechanism. The parallel of the Silco and Vander split to the Vi and Powder split only really works if you just stop at "friends/siblings who fell out". The overlayed sequences from this season chosen to show "what Vi did" to Powder ignore the context that those things only happened after Powder had killed a lot of innocent people in both cities. And its fine if you just want to stop there and say they just choose to not address that fact further for the sake of their relationship, though for the narrative I hope they dont do that, but the reality of their situations just isn't all that similar beyond a pretty surface level reading.
The whole series feels like if any character did a single thing differently, everything would be so much better, its so tragic and heartbreaking. (also anyone know why in the act 3 teaser, the line "the likes of which piltover has never seen", jayce sounds scottish, its not close to his usual accent, or the actor's)
@@Of_infinite_Faith he's definitely the one saying "there's a storm coming", but with the attention to detail of arcane its no mistake. I was thinking it isn't him. (also ngl cant tell if its Irish or Scottish), either way there's none currently other than Maddie.
I actually think Silco is. He looks so much like her. The way Powder immediately thrusts herself into his arms when they first meet also seems weirdly intuitive.
@@rubenmahrla9800 We know who her biological father is. He was namedropped in the same episode as this one (Connol). Vi and Jinx are biological sisters
I don't know about you, but I think it is great to see Jinx and Vi somehow reconcile after many years of distrust... besides this isn't first time Jinx and Vi have had moments of coming together and reminiscing the past without excess violence.
Well thankfully the world doesn’t revolve around your likes or dislikes, or anyone’s. And that’s a good thing. Otherwise it would be an extremely bland world.
Wahh wahh QQ chick flic. Might aswell watch desperate hosuewives or somrething- Arcane could've been this epic show with epic battles, that animation was wasted on a whiny drama series for lesbian teenage girlies. Utter tragedy.
I also see the “he’s your dad too” line as an acceptance of jinx as her sister, which is what jinx wanted (and needed) from vi the most. What an incredible scene.
MY HEART
It's absolutely essential that it's Vi who invites Jinx to the embrace, instead of Jinx eventually summoning the courage to join it herself. It undoes the otherwise permanent damage they've done to each other's relationships, and Vander's monstrous form puts in perspective that despite the monsters they have all become, in spite of it all they can still love one another and recognize each other as family.
Must not have been 'paced' correctly though 🤡🥴
The letter is even signed as V, which works both for Vander and Vi!
OMG
Wait… holy crap…
also V is 5 and Vi is 6 which is kinda a random funny lol
Wait until they meet vis daughter vii
@@oplars6487 or vander dad: Ivan
I assumed Jinx was terrified in the dark because she "jinxes" everyone close to her, and maybe led Vi to her death. But Vi was embracing Vander. This reassured within Jinx two things:
1. She is not delusional as Vi claimed earlier ("Vander is dead, you're delusional") thus she can trust in her own perceptions
2. She is not a jinx or a curse, her actions can lead to beautiful things happening. Trusting in her will not necessarily lead to misery.
Powder/Jinx had been yearning for this to happen. For Vi to trust her, to believe her, and for her own judgement to lead to good things
"She is not a jinx or a curse, her actions can lead to beautiful things happening."
Jinx might have a hard time convincing herself of that after what just happened
@chrishaven1489 just let her have this one moment atleast😭😭😭😭
ohhhh i love this! clap clap
makes sense to me! I loved the animation of her expression when she was in the dark! They're SO incredible at animating expressions!!!!
"He's your dad too" what a wonderful way to say "we are still sisters" without even saying it
This scene made me cry so much. I almost don’t even want act 3 because we all know it won’t be a happy ending.
Arcane S2 was 5 episodes, what do you mean act 3?
@@xArt_16 oh you sweet child of Alabama
@@xArt_16i respect the cope
I think the ending will be bitter sweet
Honestly? I think it will be a happy ending. Jinx and Vi are getting along, and even though things look bad after Isha, I'm pretty sure that the climax will be Jinx and Vi working together.
I don't think Jayce and Victor are going to get along, but the two sisters are going to work out, and that's good enough for me.
I wanted it to end right there soooo baaad. Ahh that brought me to tears.
Same
Their relationship is so tragic. And the song "What have they done to us" in that scene is just killing me with it's lyrics😭😭😭
They just wanted to be a happy familly, but the circumstances they were all put in just didn't give them a chance💔💔💔
"Violet you've got a good heart. Don't ever lose it, no matter how hard the world tries to break you. Protect the family."
Vi literaly said "He's gonna kill you" while running into a 2meters monster that can slash you in half in a single blow. Vander was right, she has such good heart, able to forgive everyone whatever the pain she suffured.
I won't fully recover if Vi and Jinx don't get the "together again" happy ending at the end of the show. The show owes it to Vi, one of the few characters who went through a lot of pain yet never decided to show a dark side of her. The only times she made poor decisions was breaking through Jayce's lab when they were young, and when she decides to punish herself in season 2 act 2.
Agreed
Jinx and Vi deserve to have a happy ending i agree
I her defence, robbing Jayce was just a way to provide for their family
I feel like jinx might leave on her own but in good terms with Vi.
Or maybe when she tried to kill her sister?
I think it reframes everything Silco ever told Jinx about their own failed revolution. Vander wasn't the malicious betrayer and he didn't work with the Enforcers because he gave up on an independent Zaun. He was a man who deeply regretted his actions and worked toward a peaceful solution.
Vander and Silco wanted the same thing but they just had two different ways of achieving it.
That’s why the scene where Silco talks to his statue in season 1 hits so fucking hard man. He finally realized why Vander would be so determined not to fight anymore, why after commuting such a horrific act of violence against Silco he could still preach peace. Silco could’ve had everything he wanted if he gave up Jinx, but he couldn’t bring himself to abandon his daughter. This damn show man 💔
Learning that Silco was going to casually murder his dead friends kids as steps B and C to a plan for getting personal power reframes things pretty heavily too. He knew those kids, he knew their mother, and the only reason he didn't unceremoniously butcher both of them was the fact one fought like hell to stop him, and the other lucked into triggering his narcissism.
Let's hope Jinx, Isha, Vi and Vander can finally have the happy ending they’ve earned.
Isha died
@shannarong3475 act 2 episode 6: well, about that... 😬
@@umcaraaleatorio751 What are you talking about? Isha grew up happy and is living a good life with her sister and dad in Viktor’s glorious church.
@@gifem507 ik Everyone is living happily and peacefully. far away from war and all the madness.
@@shannarong3475 The copium is insane
As a grown man of thirty years, I am wholly unashamed to say that I was ugly crying at this scene. Big fat, ugly tears rolling down my cheeks. It really was a beautiful scene and it wasn’t until my second watch through that I realized the letter was a direct parallel to Jinx and Vi. Like you said, there really isn’t another story like it. Arcane sits, amongst others, at the peak of story telling.
I love that the hug scene is one of the rare moments the show breaks with its "grim-dark" theme. (grim-dark = characters are punished for trying to do the right thing)
In this moment we fear Vander killed Vi, because the show proved to us many times it is very possible for tragedy to happen.
Vander killing Vi in that moment would have been absolutely devastatig.
And that is why the hug feels so cathartic. Relief + hope + healing. I cried.
Of course we'll be hit with tragedy again soon enough, in order for these rare moments to feel so painfully sweet and fragile.
So fantastically pointed out that how Vander's letter describes Vi and Jinx. Season 1 makes it clear that those two inherit the "family" conflict between Vander and Silco, and it's been my belief that you can use the dynamic between the sisters to infer the dynamic of the brothers. When we see the conflict between Vi and Jinx develop in season 1, we were also learning more about Silco and Vander. Sure, Silco said Vander betrayed him, but I don't think a lot of us sympathized with Silco in S1E3. However, we empathized with Powder when Vi hit her, and Vi realized she was making a mistake. They then gave us 3 years to infer that this is how Silco experienced Vander's betrayal before confirming it with the letter. To me it's another example where the writers tell us "see, it was the same as with Vi and Jinx all along, did you make the connection yet?"
Something worth of note as well because I'm uncertain if the creators did this intentionally. When Jinx is reading the letter with Vi at her back, the shadow Vi casts on the wall matches Vander's silhouette.
wow I didn't even see that before but I think you're right. That's very cool good catch
Thank you, I've been trying fo the past hour to stop crying about the season finale and now im crying all over again
Alot of relationship is like this and can be save by just simply reaching out, admitting the mistake or apologizing.
How can a show be this good! unbelievable!
Vi really has a good heart, even after all that happened she trusted her life to Jinx words and let them be a family for a moment again 😢😢
you sold me the show ( it is already my favorite piece of cinema )
Jinx : “Enforcer Vi, you’re under arrest! 😜😜😜😜😜😜”
Vi : “GET OVER HERE! You idiot…I got no more supplies…of that lipstick…”
- Who framed Roger Rabbit reference
Jinx desperately search for vi in the dark is so sad
Now I need Riot to pay for my therapy. Pain.
I dunno. I've never been this deeply emotionally involved in a show for a long time.
It's good to know you're not eternally jaded and dead inside.
That's like therapy.
Really enjoying these quick bite sized vids, great analysis
Also, Isha loaded three hex spheres into the gun, much like Powder she used with her monkey bomb that once derailed the entire storyline. But this time, Isha turns the tide, saving the day by sacrificing herself for everyone else-a true act of redemption for Powder through Isha
and the other thing when Warwick comes barrelling down the hall Vi puts herself between him and Jinx and says "he's going to kill you" not "you lied" or "he's going to kill me" Vi still loved her sister and even thought they have hurt each other they still consciously or not still protect each other when it matters Vi when she listened to Jinx "trust me" and Vi when she stood in front of them
so much bad luck in their lives, especially jinx. so much wrong decisions made with good intentions. its heartbreaking.
Portryal of familial love always gets me, Arcane does it beautifully and of course left me drowning in am ocean of my own tears 😭
this freaking damn scene hit me in ways i could not even imagine was possible 😩
I cried harder for this scene than for Isha in E6.
Wow, this shows storytelling is amazing
yesss! this scene made me tear up!! the embrace, ahhh!
YOU FOOL THE SHOW ALREADY WON ME OVER IN THE VERY FIRST EPISODE
Yeah then episode 6 instantly destroyed it 😭
I literally ugly cried during the "he's your dad too" scene. My wife, not interested in the show said, "why are you crying at the cartoon?" Had to take a week off from her, she wouldn't understand haha
I hope we get longer vids like this more regularly!!
AMAZING video and analysis
Feels like its a little less clean of a parallel when the "dirt" is that Vi smacked Powder once, while Powder turned into John Doe from Seven last season.
you are misunderstanding what happened from powder's perspective.
Vi hit powder and left. She tried to go back, but got thrown in jail. Powder doesn't know that. She became jinx because she thought Vi abandoned her. She has severe abandonment issues, probably from losing her parents at a young age. It's why she clings so tightly to vi as a child and its why she replaces her with Silco.
@@flowchartkenYT I understand that Powder feels Vi abandoned her and doesn't know thats not true until E6 of last season. I understand thats the source of Powders issues with Vi and that those issues are exacerbated by Silco's gaslighting.
What I'm saying is that the comparison pretty much ignores that the source of Vi's issues with Powder aren't merely that she caused the death of a loved one, but that she's since become a serial killer who's butchered a lot of Zaunites in service to the man that murdered their family, tried to gun down Vi herself in cold blood within minutes of reuniting and tried to coerce Vi into murdering Cait in a display of truly unhinged emotional blackmail before committing an act of mass murder.
There's a pretty huge disparity between what Vi did to Powder as a half-beaten-to-death-tweenager, and what Powder has done to Vi and others as an (admittedly mentally unwell) young adult since then. and while Powder has now gotten an explanation for what happened from Vi.. Powder has given Vi absolutely nothing for her own actions. Unlike Silco himself, deranged as he was, Powder doesn't even claim to be motivated by a desire for revolution. All the blood on her hands in S1, and her attempted murder of Vi, just came from her trying to please Silco because her toxic codependency on him was her coping mechanism.
The parallel of the Silco and Vander split to the Vi and Powder split only really works if you just stop at "friends/siblings who fell out". The overlayed sequences from this season chosen to show "what Vi did" to Powder ignore the context that those things only happened after Powder had killed a lot of innocent people in both cities. And its fine if you just want to stop there and say they just choose to not address that fact further for the sake of their relationship, though for the narrative I hope they dont do that, but the reality of their situations just isn't all that similar beyond a pretty surface level reading.
The whole series feels like if any character did a single thing differently, everything would be so much better, its so tragic and heartbreaking.
(also anyone know why in the act 3 teaser, the line "the likes of which piltover has never seen", jayce sounds scottish, its not close to his usual accent, or the actor's)
Because it's not Jayce saying those lines, it's somebody else. Idk who.
@@Of_infinite_Faith he's definitely the one saying "there's a storm coming", but with the attention to detail of arcane its no mistake. I was thinking it isn't him. (also ngl cant tell if its Irish or Scottish), either way there's none currently other than Maddie.
Fck, you made me cry again😢
Vander isn't her adoptive father , he's is the real father of Jinx
I actually think Silco is. He looks so much like her. The way Powder immediately thrusts herself into his arms when they first meet also seems weirdly intuitive.
@@rubenmahrla9800 We know who her biological father is. He was namedropped in the same episode as this one (Connol). Vi and Jinx are biological sisters
And then loses me completely in Act 3
Why your channel has just 13k !?
Do you guys believe Jinx and Vi will get along
I don't like how jinx is getting better it's just because i.m sick of the bad girl goes good thing
Eh, personally a one dimensional knockoff Harley Quinn feels more boring to me.
I don't know about you, but I think it is great to see Jinx and Vi somehow reconcile after many years of distrust... besides this isn't first time Jinx and Vi have had moments of coming together and reminiscing the past without excess violence.
@catofchaos it's not that simple.
@@waitwaitokgoSeason 1 Jinx is not a one dimensional Harley Queen knockoff.
Well thankfully the world doesn’t revolve around your likes or dislikes, or anyone’s. And that’s a good thing. Otherwise it would be an extremely bland world.
Wahh wahh QQ chick flic. Might aswell watch desperate hosuewives or somrething- Arcane could've been this epic show with epic battles, that animation was wasted on a whiny drama series for lesbian teenage girlies. Utter tragedy.
Man, you’re pathetic.
Bait used to be believeable