Graphic performance of MX450 is not much different from the integrated GPU of the intel CPU -11300H CPU. So dedicated GPU is meaningless. It is just to deceive the user.
I would say the MX450 has a major real use advantage in comparison to the Iris Xe. That dGPU does get on par with Iris Xe (96EUs variant), but it has a dedicated VRAM advantage. Also, it can be used for CUDA related workloads despite it's weaknesses. According to NotebookCheck, it performs slightly better in gaming benchmarks as well. (max wattage variant ig) Still tho they could've fit a gtx 1050 for example there.
I was a bit disappointed in the dgpu as well. Compared to the 780m igpu in amd's latest apus the mx450 only does slightly better than half of the performance of the 780m.
Yall forget these knock off consoles/mini pcs are made with the lowest grade parts for a quick buck. That thing was put together for pennies on the dollar.
@Nanosinxthe integrated graphics in modern Ryzen laptops are actually about on par with a lot of older budget laptop GPUs. The top end integrated Radeon 780m is about on par with the laptop GTX 1650 (the 780m actually beats it a little bit) and the Radeon 760m is about on par with a laptop GTX 1050 Ti.
This is cool - really cool. But the value of this thing would really jump if the MX450 here was a MX550 instead - for those unaware, it's one of the few in the MX series that supports NVENC encoding. This would be great for creative work, but the MX450 is fine if it's just light gaming. I might cop one
@@theinktician I am glad you brought this up I was thinking as I read the comment about QSV. Is the mobile variant able to encode/transcode for something like jellyfin?
I know that if you had dual channel ram, the frame time graph would be smoother and you'd def see an increase in FPS, but overall this system isn't terrible for eSports and lighter games, I'm impressed. Good video!
Maybe if it was like a mobile 1650 it’d be decent. You could also use an iGPU through the extra M.2 but I’d honestly rather get a mini PC with the latest AMD integrated graphics
I think "Mini PCs'' should have a Desktop CPU.....Making one using a laptop CPU in a small form factor doesn't provide much value as a laptop is a better choice at that point.
Just a heads up you can over clock the crap out of most mx450s or mx gpus in general. Ive heard some say over clocking improves performance as much as 150%!!!! So def worth looking into. You also could just get a 4060 for cheap and build a diy egpu setup for cheap.
That's technically not a PC or even a mini PC-it's a console. It's closed proprietary technology with no upgrade path. A Personal Computer is something you can modify and build from scratch with replaceable parts. Calling it a PC is like calling an Xbox or a PlayStation 5 a PC, and everyone knows that Xbox and PS5 aren't PCs.
Heads up, bit of a bait and switch, this video shows a model that their Amazon store doesn't stock, and every picture showing this chassis links to another APU/integrated graphics PC.
I always wondered why mini PCs rarely have dedicated GPU, while on laptops it's been around since forever. As someone who loves mini PCs and a casual gamer, something like this is right up my alley.
hey @Tech Closet, I have the exact same model. worked amazingly with games until some "expert" shop tech changed the thermal heat settings in BIOS and removed the M.2 heatsink.. could you tell me your thermal BIOS settings so I can correct mine?.. it's way different from other BIOS settings and no one I take it to knows what they're doing... AT ALL lol
You know the PC is really cool and all But you people all of the RUclipsrs put these videos together shows the price and then the price hike goes out of control Your video shows at $319 Now it's over $400
Yeah, I was about to say the price skyrocketed. The original poster was lucky to get this at 300. That would’ve been an excellent buy. 400 only because it has a dedicated GPU. Otherwise you’d be better off getting another mini PC.
Went to look up your amazon links. Looks like you have the links mixed up. The link for "the pc in this video" is to a N95 powered pc, and the "alternative pc" is the one from the video.
i have a xbox one s in white and they pc looks like a xbox crazy !! the steel the idea by microsoft :) only the one thing is different no game that i play on my xbox in 4K hdr will never run on this pc !!!! and they is a little bit smaller i think ! OKAY I CANT BELIEVE IT THE IS REALLY AMAZING BUT FOR THIS PRICE ?? SOME IS CRAZY HERE !!! i have also a monitor with the same stuff only my monitor is from samsung the odyssey g8 ! they have i think only 144 hz !! i think i buy the wrong expensive stuff when i look your video ;) ;( when this all is really man you make a good deal and a good video thanks for shared !!! my pc cost at 1400 dollars and perforced a little bit better but not much how is this possible dude ? you really play with this mini pc ? i cant believe it ???? no way !!!
so could this compare to the beelink ser5 or ser6 in terms of emulation? it would seem with a built in gpu running xbox 360 and ps3 games would both be possible. ps2 gamecube, wii and switch were already possible
You need to do a deep scan for viruses. Some of the Chinese computers sold on Amazon come with pre-installed viruses, hidden inside modified driver files.
Exactly, thats really why these companies keep putting out knock off game consoles so they can get customers exposed ti viruses and malware. And even if it doesnt have viruse, the parts are extremely low budget for being expensive compared to a real console or mini computer.
You should scan that mini PC with online virus total. Some of those gadgets are sold with malwares. Maybe this one is not, i'm just saying be carefull.
I wish y'all would STOP testing NEW GAMES on old hardware! IT wasn't made for those kind of games. It was made to play HL, HL2, and games that came out when the gpu came out! STOP IT! (not directed at you personally)
@@mrkingff1426asking small channel for pc, but respect, at 13 built a pc up from literal junk components, you cant just expect to start with a nice pc gotta build up
Graphic performance of MX450 is not much different from the integrated GPU of the intel CPU -11300H CPU. So dedicated GPU is meaningless. It is just to deceive the user.
I would say the MX450 has a major real use advantage in comparison to the Iris Xe. That dGPU does get on par with Iris Xe (96EUs variant), but it has a dedicated VRAM advantage. Also, it can be used for CUDA related workloads despite it's weaknesses.
According to NotebookCheck, it performs slightly better in gaming benchmarks as well. (max wattage variant ig)
Still tho they could've fit a gtx 1050 for example there.
Obviously
I was a bit disappointed in the dgpu as well. Compared to the 780m igpu in amd's latest apus the mx450 only does slightly better than half of the performance of the 780m.
Yall forget these knock off consoles/mini pcs are made with the lowest grade parts for a quick buck. That thing was put together for pennies on the dollar.
@Nanosinxthe integrated graphics in modern Ryzen laptops are actually about on par with a lot of older budget laptop GPUs. The top end integrated Radeon 780m is about on par with the laptop GTX 1650 (the 780m actually beats it a little bit) and the Radeon 760m is about on par with a laptop GTX 1050 Ti.
This is cool - really cool. But the value of this thing would really jump if the MX450 here was a MX550 instead - for those unaware, it's one of the few in the MX series that supports NVENC encoding. This would be great for creative work, but the MX450 is fine if it's just light gaming. I might cop one
Of course, you can still use this for some video editing - 11th gen's QSV encoding was great
It’s 3 years too late for this
@@theinktician I am glad you brought this up I was thinking as I read the comment about QSV. Is the mobile variant able to encode/transcode for something like jellyfin?
Blah blah blah...
@@Sim7NYYlmao, I do editing with Linux on a 2gb of ram / 32 rom on mmc... So, 3 years? You're joking right?
I know that if you had dual channel ram, the frame time graph would be smoother and you'd def see an increase in FPS, but overall this system isn't terrible for eSports and lighter games, I'm impressed. Good video!
Nice video bro, great lighting and smooth editing along with clear explanation and soothing voice :D
Thank you very much!
Maybe if it was like a mobile 1650 it’d be decent. You could also use an iGPU through the extra M.2 but I’d honestly rather get a mini PC with the latest AMD integrated graphics
An MX450 is a mobile 1650, it's just clocked a little lower.
@@mattbosley3531 and use 64bit memory bus .
So really the performance is about Nvidia 1050 3Gb model.
there are usb connected rtx cards nowadays, times are changing
@@hardcordel I know I saw the nvidia pocket AI!
@@hardcordel Unless it's connected by usb 4 you're not going to get decent performance.
Nice video, I like the design, it makes me think about the Xbox one S indeed
Was thinking something like this for an IP cam server using a gpu codex with ffmpeg for encoding multiple streams.
The fact that it's using 35% RAM on first power up is hilarious. I don't know why people keep using the default Windows OS.
I think "Mini PCs'' should have a Desktop CPU.....Making one using a laptop CPU in a small form factor doesn't provide much value as a laptop is a better choice at that point.
That's pretty solid performance for only $319!
Only 😂
Not really the gpu is a marketing gimmick
@@disastermaster3K What's a better priced miniPC for the same or better performance?
Thanks for the vid man!!! Appreciate it🎉
Just a heads up you can over clock the crap out of most mx450s or mx gpus in general. Ive heard some say over clocking improves performance as much as 150%!!!! So def worth looking into. You also could just get a 4060 for cheap and build a diy egpu setup for cheap.
I had a MX440 back in 1999. Guess that Mini PC is good to play GTA 3 on Windows XP ?
That's technically not a PC or even a mini PC-it's a console. It's closed proprietary technology with no upgrade path. A Personal Computer is something you can modify and build from scratch with replaceable parts. Calling it a PC is like calling an Xbox or a PlayStation 5 a PC, and everyone knows that Xbox and PS5 aren't PCs.
Heads up, bit of a bait and switch, this video shows a model that their Amazon store doesn't stock, and every picture showing this chassis links to another APU/integrated graphics PC.
This result made me realize how powerful the newest mobile AMD Ryzen APU really are.
hey, nice video. 👍
what about emulation performance?
ps2, ps3, gamecube?
I second this one. Recently got a mini and was surprised how well it handled switch games.
Nice video mate, i was just thinking but, With other stick of 16gb of ram it will boost a lot performance ? nice video once again mate
good computer for esports gaming if you're on the travel
I always wondered why mini PCs rarely have dedicated GPU, while on laptops it's been around since forever. As someone who loves mini PCs and a casual gamer, something like this is right up my alley.
11th gen is not bad and MX450 is not so bad either. i like it
hey @Tech Closet, I have the exact same model. worked amazingly with games until some "expert" shop tech changed the thermal heat settings in BIOS and removed the M.2 heatsink.. could you tell me your thermal BIOS settings so I can correct mine?.. it's way different from other BIOS settings and no one I take it to knows what they're doing... AT ALL lol
You know the PC is really cool and all
But you people all of the RUclipsrs put these videos together shows the price and then the price hike goes out of control
Your video shows at $319
Now it's over $400
Then buy it before they show it.
Yeah, I was about to say the price skyrocketed. The original poster was lucky to get this at 300. That would’ve been an excellent buy. 400 only because it has a dedicated GPU. Otherwise you’d be better off getting another mini PC.
@@fourex59weird, I clicked the link in his description and it still shows the $319 price tag.
Went to look up your amazon links. Looks like you have the links mixed up. The link for "the pc in this video" is to a N95 powered pc, and the "alternative pc" is the one from the video.
yeah and none can be had at the fake bullshit price the uploader is yapping about!
@@bent540 It's 359.99 now, hardly fake, prices often go up from demand.
Good review. It looks like a solid entry system.
Have fun.
bro that small pc is better then my $500 pc wtf
do you have 3 other channels that you dont associate with this one? because all 3 of them have the same voice and editing style
i have a xbox one s in white and they pc looks like a xbox crazy !! the steel the idea by microsoft :) only the one thing is different no game that i play on my xbox in 4K hdr will never run on this pc !!!! and they is a little bit smaller i think ! OKAY I CANT BELIEVE IT THE IS REALLY AMAZING BUT FOR THIS PRICE ?? SOME IS CRAZY HERE !!! i have also a monitor with the same stuff only my monitor is from samsung the odyssey g8 ! they have i think only 144 hz !! i think i buy the wrong expensive stuff when i look your video ;) ;( when this all is really man you make a good deal and a good video thanks for shared !!! my pc cost at 1400 dollars and perforced a little bit better but not much how is this possible dude ? you really play with this mini pc ? i cant believe it ???? no way !!!
so could this compare to the beelink ser5 or ser6 in terms of emulation? it would seem with a built in gpu running xbox 360 and ps3 games would both be possible. ps2 gamecube, wii and switch were already possible
I just like the form factor to use as a dedicated batocera machine for emulation
I hope anyone who buys a cheap, off brand mini-pc is doing a fresh Windows install. So many of them are loaded with malware.
I know I’m late but when playing Fortnite, does the game stutter?
What about emulators testing ?
bro i thought it was xbox series s from the thumbnail 💀
Why bother? Just buy a steam deck.
Why bother. Turn it into a steam deck
what about overwatch???
Im using this for xbox 360 emulation
Needs dedicated VRAM,, and 1 stick RAM is so shameful in 2024, DUAL CHANNEL, geez especially when used as video ram too: huge performance hit.
Watch out for backdoor hacking.
Why did you not use 720p in the harder to run games??
What fps does it get in minecraft? Also great video, learned a lot
more than you need maybe 200 base on how many chunks you are loading considering it runs fortnite on 100 fps
Question, what connection is being used for that mobile gpu to the mb? MXM or is it soldered to the board?
Laptop components, all soldered. Except RAM & storage as shown in the video.
bro that is a laptop gpu, my laptop also has that Gpu but a newre version
the link you gave are you sure its legit cause i ordered 1 and it says its delivered and received but i didnt really got anything
92 degree on cpu and he says honestly good result :D
When does he say 92?
You need to do a deep scan for viruses. Some of the Chinese computers sold on Amazon come with pre-installed viruses, hidden inside modified driver files.
Exactly, thats really why these companies keep putting out knock off game consoles so they can get customers exposed ti viruses and malware. And even if it doesnt have viruse, the parts are extremely low budget for being expensive compared to a real console or mini computer.
These not so bad results make me wonder how much a 2nd stick of RAM would help here.
About 10% max in fps in games.
Most positive fanbase for the most positive man keep it up 💪
Thank you!
The moniter look pretty good ngl
this is a great htpc
Meanwhile the nvidia gpu is even slower than the 780m
Can it play project zomboid tho...
7840hs owns this everyday. You just wasted your $300 on super old rig.
Lmao he is saying the cpu is getting older. It’s the 11th generation intel chip.
I got a desktop with an i7 8700k, GTX 1060 6GB, and 16GB of DDR4 RAM for $300. Which is better?
Your setup is much faster
Where at? I need that asap😭🙏
what program do you use to view temps and usage
You should scan that mini PC with online virus total. Some of those gadgets are sold with malwares. Maybe this one is not, i'm just saying be carefull.
Id rather have amd 780m mini pc
how was it on dota 2?
нужно 2 канальная память, тогда фпс в игре будет больше.
Wouldnt th XE graphics be faster than the MX450??
?
No
Not faster but nearly same ballpark. So MX450 is meaningless.
This has the same performance as the Ryzen 3400G in Warzone
It’s probably a laptop gpu
If anyone knows, which those benchmarks, how would it perform in dayz?
who plays on low settings ....
I wish it is also same price in PH. 😢
pretty impressive
I cant respect any tech review (sponsored or otherwise) if they test fortnite.
plot twist: he was actually playing on the Iris Xe graphics
Would work with MWZ at least
I wish y'all would STOP testing NEW GAMES on old hardware!
IT wasn't made for those kind of games.
It was made to play HL, HL2, and games that came out when the gpu came out!
STOP IT!
(not directed at you personally)
just bye a beelink bro
Looks like a one s
fsr in nvidia ?
It came with windows 10 bloatware. 5.5GB ram used.
ahhh yes ANOTHER mini pc that you can have for "$$$" fake price!
Und nach 3 Monaten bekommst nur noch 100€ dafür
I’m surprised, the rog ally is significantly faster than this
It should have at least rtx3050 max-q to rtx 4060 for a gaming performance. And price 400-800 usd would be good for it
I just discovered the channel and subscribed
Thank you!
400 now :S
that mini pc is basially just a motherboard with a lil case
Bro you sound like coop
Xoop*
4 year old graphics card.
Day 2 of asking for a free gaming PC and first
Better get a job
Why the hate 😢
@@mrkingff1426asking small channel for pc, but respect, at 13 built a pc up from literal junk components, you cant just expect to start with a nice pc gotta build up
Okay I don't now why everyone hates but if you want me to I will stop😢
I started with a laptop then saved up money by getting a Job to get an actual gaming laptop because I travel around the world.
wow looks like xbox one s😀
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dude, you damn lied about the damn gpu and said in the title that it was nvidia gpu when it really wasn't at all and the gpu was intel instead
The MX450 is by Nvidia
Relax
Internet search function is your friend.
focus minisforum UM780xtx mini pc from China
Not the same price bracket.
I seen SouljaBoy(tm) selling that system with his name on it.