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  • Опубликовано: 19 мар 2024
  • Zack Snyder Is Delusional. - Batman Doesn't Kill. Saying he should be killin' his opps in the movies is crazy...
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  • @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen
    @damntiscrazyfellowgentlemen 2 месяца назад +827

    It's like the saying goes "If you can't see your batman comforting a child, you didn't write batman, you wrote the punisher in a bat costume."

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +131

      Literally!

    • @stimswwolf7867
      @stimswwolf7867 2 месяца назад +92

      Hence why The Batman is so perfect to me. He looked after that kid in the funeral and at his father’s crime scene. he literally saved him from a car collision

    • @josephdent6825
      @josephdent6825 2 месяца назад +52

      @@stimswwolf7867 A lot of people don’t know this side of Batman and it’s time for people to see this side of him.

    • @Harryerpoow
      @Harryerpoow 2 месяца назад +18

      This is a pro comment. Zack Snyder doesn’t understand Batman.

    • @EnlightenedArtist_0136
      @EnlightenedArtist_0136 2 месяца назад +16

      Literally one of the first things we see Batfleck do is saving and comforting a child in shock after she lost her parents during the black zero event as Bruce Wayne. Calling Batfleck in BVS the Punisher only shows the true lack of understanding of both characters as well as what a 'character arc' is.
      Did Batman kill in BVS? Yes just like the first issues of Batman since 1939.
      Should the first issues where the character isn't fully established be adapted into a movie. Yes why not when it's part of a character arc that gives the Batman we know today in the end.

  • @Mrbackblower
    @Mrbackblower 2 месяца назад +374

    If Zack Snyder really wants a Batman who kills, he could have just used Red Hood or Knightfall Batman, aka Azrael

    • @HoodedSpidey
      @HoodedSpidey 2 месяца назад +25

      Azrael would be so cool in live action ngl, I want him more than I want Deathstroke & that's saying something.

    • @lonelysatoshi2482
      @lonelysatoshi2482 2 месяца назад +10

      Or Flashpoint Batman or The Batman Who Laughs or that one version of Batman that carries a shit ton of guns

    • @chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926
      @chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 2 месяца назад +11

      I'll do one better, Snyder should have just set his "vision" for the DCEU in Universe 3 because he unintentionally created the Crime Syndicate instead of the Justice League.

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 2 месяца назад

      YES

    • @AF-zk8kk
      @AF-zk8kk 2 месяца назад +4

      Jesus Christ is king. God protect repent and be forgiven. Pray for others to find Jesus Christ.🔥❤️

  • @randomtf2guy295
    @randomtf2guy295 2 месяца назад +422

    I'd take a Red Hood live action movie than a Batman who kills, anytime!

    • @comicnerd84
      @comicnerd84 2 месяца назад +43

      Red Hood is pretty much ‘Batman who kills’

    • @sonicsprime2815
      @sonicsprime2815 2 месяца назад +17

      HitopFilms is making a Red hood movie

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +51

      I just want a Red Hood movie with at least a Deadpool budget

    • @stimswwolf7867
      @stimswwolf7867 2 месяца назад +6

      @@Demigah needs to be done in the Matt Reeves universe

    • @TempestDarkwound
      @TempestDarkwound 2 месяца назад +8

      Batman not killing was because of the Comics Authority. He used to kill. But he doesn’t kill anymore.

  • @disgruntledfox
    @disgruntledfox 2 месяца назад +136

    Christian Bale's Batman should be called Elbow Man with the number of times he uses it to fight

    • @DoctorFate1997
      @DoctorFate1997 2 месяца назад +15

      Ikr, Captain Elbow 😆

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +14

      HAHAHA@@DoctorFate1997

    • @doopdoopdopdop7424
      @doopdoopdopdop7424 2 месяца назад +6

      I am the 90, I am the right. I. Am. ELBOW-MAN.

    • @disgruntledfox
      @disgruntledfox 2 месяца назад

      @@doopdoopdopdop7424 😂😂

    • @ultimatecontagion
      @ultimatecontagion 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@DoctorFate1997Nahhhh man. 😂😂😂

  • @MineplexVLOfficial
    @MineplexVLOfficial 2 месяца назад +224

    Snyder shifting his focus to cinematography would be best instead, he's amazing at making his films LOOK cool as shit, its just storytelling and script writing that he's bad at

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +57

      And directing fight scenes. I love his fights

    • @Kalizoid
      @Kalizoid 2 месяца назад +47

      @@Demigahthat’s a fact. BvS may be bootycheeks, but that warehouse fight goes hard asf

    • @faith4657
      @faith4657 2 месяца назад +3

      The warehouse scene was the best. But synder sometimes doesn't write the story himself.

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 2 месяца назад +4

      I remember when he did Guardians of Gahoole way back, he should try doing more animation movies

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Demigah bro, he put slowmo on a slow motion fight in his Rebel Moon movie.
      Dude's a joke when it comes to that
      Photography only for him.

  • @EndThusIAm
    @EndThusIAm 2 месяца назад +310

    Snyder is just as egotistical as the likes of Rian Johnson. They look at guidelines and public desires and go "Yeah, but I don't wanna." and then act surprised when we call him out on it. As you said; delusional.

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption 2 месяца назад +5

      @EndThusIAm
      Well Snyder is an Objectivist. He's got a black and white view on the world.

    • @faith4657
      @faith4657 2 месяца назад +5

      The man does his own think, he likes to test and experiment his like geroge Lucas who liked to do experimental films, and got hate for the prequels. I don't think his egotistical just cause of that.

    • @EndThusIAm
      @EndThusIAm 2 месяца назад +16

      @@faith4657 Lucas created Star Wars, popular opinion or not, he was free to do whatever he wants with his creation. Especially when he put his money towards the movies.
      Snyder did not create Batman and when told what Batman has been known not to do nearly throughout his existence, he said "Nah."
      They are not the same. Not even close.

    • @HoodedSpidey
      @HoodedSpidey 2 месяца назад +1

      Except, Star Wars has one unified story. There is one Luke Skywalker.
      Batman has hundreds of interpretations and it all spanned from a guy who killed criminals when deemed necessary.
      There is no "guideline" anymore, just preference. Some Batmen kill, others don't. It's unfair then to say Snyder ruined anything when nearly everything about it has some origin in the diverse comics realm.

    • @EndThusIAm
      @EndThusIAm 2 месяца назад +7

      @@HoodedSpidey Except, you're wrong. There's multiple canons for Star Wars. Hundreds of comics, books, games starring Luke. And some Lucas wouldn't approve of. Like him marrying Mara Jade.
      Now please share which version of Bruce Wayne Batman has him killing people without A, being corrupted or turned into something else. Or B, turns out to actually be his dad or Damian, or Jason, or someone besides Bruce.
      And in case you bring up Burton's Batman, I can assure you that it wasn't liked either.

  • @MEnterprises01
    @MEnterprises01 2 месяца назад +107

    Snyder saying people don't want Batman to be put into situations where he has to kill best conveys his fundamental misunderstanding of the character. Some of the best Batman stories involve him being put in scenarios where the logical solution would be to kill, but he finds an alternative because of how much he values human life. Bro didn't adapt Batman he adapted The Punisher 💀

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 2 месяца назад +11

      Seriously! Because of his values and intelligence he always finds a way.

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 2 месяца назад +8

      Even when he fails and someone dies, like in Frank Miller's work he references, Batman is still Batman, not whatever Snyder wants him to be.

    • @matthewbrown6138
      @matthewbrown6138 2 месяца назад

      What do you expect from a director that wants Batman to get ass raped in prison and be a mass murder?

    • @elmizzox
      @elmizzox Месяц назад +1

      Values life so much he lets psychos keep killing lives

    • @malekat8539
      @malekat8539 Месяц назад

      ​@@elmizzox
      That's what people want I guess. Ask them

  • @rubyrobin4058
    @rubyrobin4058 2 месяца назад +77

    Zack Snyder could make a movie of Flashpoint Batman if he wanted to. Since that Batman does kill it would be interesting to see how that Gotham and rogues gallary ajusted to a Batman like that.

    • @olivercrespo2329
      @olivercrespo2329 2 месяца назад +12

      That’s the thing, in that story there is no rougues gallery, the only one alive is the joker because it’s Martha in that story. The writers knew if they were going to make Batman kill they had to have a good reason to have the joker alive. Because otherwise they’d all be dead in one night.

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 2 месяца назад +1

      NOW THERE'S AN IDEA

    • @altalia07
      @altalia07 2 месяца назад

      Yeaah!!

    • @bvilceisvilceus
      @bvilceisvilceus 2 месяца назад +1

      @@olivercrespo2329but isn’t the joker alive in the Snyder verse when he should’ve been the first one to die?

  • @maskedsaiyan1738
    @maskedsaiyan1738 2 месяца назад +45

    Hopefully, future directors will make sure not to make Zack Snyder’s mistakes.

    • @SparkShadow212
      @SparkShadow212 10 часов назад

      Why are you saying this?! You know you're only jinxing it!

  • @KaoticKwan
    @KaoticKwan 2 месяца назад +40

    What most people don’t understand is that some iterations of Batman don’t only avoid killing because it’s wrong, but because it’s the only thing keeping him sane. When he says not killing is what separates him from the criminals he’s being literal

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +6

      This right here!!!

    • @anthonygarcia8749
      @anthonygarcia8749 2 месяца назад +2

      Nah it goes way deeper than that half assed half truth explanation of his moral code that people keep clinging to from the fucking red hood movie lmao. Batman 540-541 (irc) by Doug Moench does a much better job at fully explaining Batman's moral code.

    • @KaoticKwan
      @KaoticKwan 2 месяца назад

      @@anthonygarcia8749 I wasn’t even referring to the Red Hood movie. And im sure those comics do a great job explaining his moral codes, but it’s not like the movie is wrong either. Most iterations of Batman don’t kill because it clashes with his moral beliefs and promises, it would tarnish what ‘The Batman’ stands for, he’d keep killing and in his eyes become just as bad as the criminals, or even become a villain that’s worse than any of his rogues. And im not saying all this in a disrespectful manner btw. I was just conveying that Batman’s reasons for not killing are relatively easy to understand, pretty consistent with most versions (regardless if they’re “half truths” or extensively explained) and a big part of his character. so idk why people like Snyder want him to be a mass murderer with no self control.

    • @rodserling4751
      @rodserling4751 Месяц назад

      @@anthonygarcia8749what is the explanation in that comic? I’m curious

  • @KratosisGod
    @KratosisGod 2 месяца назад +62

    Making batman a killer is like making punisher into a pacifist it turns the character into something they are not supposed to be.

    • @Taxevader-gk9ms
      @Taxevader-gk9ms 2 месяца назад +5

      it's like when redhood stopped killing he kinda just became lame

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 2 месяца назад

      @@Taxevader-gk9msWha- he did!?

    • @animusdesynched9530
      @animusdesynched9530 2 месяца назад +6

      @@kennethsatria6607
      Yep - in the comics a while back, I’m pretty sure he ditched the guns.
      In other continuities where he stopped - like Gotham Knights, for example - he’s basically just Batman with guns that shoot rubber bullets.

    • @seregagerassimov4864
      @seregagerassimov4864 2 месяца назад +4

      @@animusdesynched9530 yeah, rubber bullets is kinda lame. It can work, but not for Red Hood lmao. And also, yeah, if Red Hood doesn't kill, he isn't Red Hood, he is an edgy Robin with a crowbar.

  • @BoundFinds
    @BoundFinds 2 месяца назад +14

    I think Zack Snyder once said that he only likes comics book that have people being killed and people having sex if I remember

  • @TrueRem
    @TrueRem 2 месяца назад +49

    Batman killing can work if done right with actual good writing, ssktjl is how not to write a batman that kills.

    • @christhechilled
      @christhechilled 2 месяца назад +5

      Talk to em! Batman killing has been done since the beginning. (Comic Books)

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +20

      But it would have to be a once in a lifetime kill if Bruce did it

    • @HotNColdSophie
      @HotNColdSophie 2 месяца назад +4

      Their are a couple of comic batman part of the batman who laughs universe that kills and their backstories are all damn interesting, that is good writing so yes a live action batman who kills can be made with good writing.

    • @arshiaaghaei
      @arshiaaghaei 2 месяца назад +5

      Hell, a Flashpoint Thomas Waybe Batman could be what he wants.

    • @josephdent6825
      @josephdent6825 2 месяца назад

      If people want to see Batman killing, then read Golden Age Batman or watch any of the live action movies ( except Pattinson)

  • @Mr-sn2ni
    @Mr-sn2ni Месяц назад +6

    Why is it that cartoons can capture the essence of DC characters so well, yet the multi-million dollar corporations behind them can't resist the urge to inject their own egos and think they know better?

  • @disgruntledfox
    @disgruntledfox 2 месяца назад +18

    He made Batman kill a bunch of people and somehow also allowed Batman to have a relationship with Commissioner Gordon when we all know Jim will definitely not be okay with it. DC shouldn't have let him touch Batman. There's a reason why Batman doesn't kill. It's literally his code

  • @nestamanzi3067
    @nestamanzi3067 2 месяца назад +28

    Zack Snyder doesn’t read comics. It’s common facts and it’s true that Affleck is a goated Batman.

    • @Isaacisaperson4677
      @Isaacisaperson4677 2 месяца назад +10

      He read dark knight returns but completely misunderstood it

    • @nestamanzi3067
      @nestamanzi3067 2 месяца назад

      @@Isaacisaperson4677 I agree.

    • @seynpurrp
      @seynpurrp 2 месяца назад +4

      which is probably why i enjoyed the films with ben affleck in them, yes he did kill, but his acting, his face and the combat are really comic accurate

    • @nemesisprime4501
      @nemesisprime4501 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@seynpurrpwait until they get a load of the dcu batman. He might just be the most comic accurate batman than ben affleck

  • @thiefthearcher9907
    @thiefthearcher9907 2 месяца назад +25

    That’s why one of my favorite Batman’s came from the animated series. He actually gave a damn about his Rogue’s gallery. And it wasn’t in some sort of selfish or psychotic way. He genuinely wanted to help them, even when it was proved he wasn’t responsible for what they became. Harley Quinn was a good example. The show version, not the comics.🤔

    • @bombingbarrett4813
      @bombingbarrett4813 2 месяца назад +3

      Speaking of Harley... wasn't her first ever appearance in the animated series? Funny how her first ever interpretation is one of her best

    • @nunyabusiness863
      @nunyabusiness863 10 дней назад +1

      Exactly. One of the great things about tas is that batman cares. Hence why he tries to save Clayface, his friend harvey, etc. The animated versions captured this quality very well.

  • @justvibin6210
    @justvibin6210 2 месяца назад +57

    I had seen a bunch of game critiques on the arkham games and something they said could be put in most media of batman, "A Batman who kills is boring, shallow. A Batman who's best part of himself is his discipline, good, it puts a complex layer on his character", Snyder has the chance to make a good Batman, he has the actor, the supplies, the knowledge, and he's just making a battle for the cowl Red hood in Batman's body. (BTW love your vids man, you're hilarious asf)

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +17

      Thank you! A Batman that kills is a Batman that takes the easiest route for every problem. Batman does not like it easy.

    • @josephdent6825
      @josephdent6825 2 месяца назад +7

      @@Demigah Bro literally said that to Jason in Under the Red Hood “ It’ll be too damn easy “.

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 2 месяца назад +1

      The "easy" part is lame, because people will get killed to give Batman a challenge.
      It being about a slippery slope of his mind is a better excuse.

  • @Red_Spidey
    @Red_Spidey 2 месяца назад +5

    Im glad Matt Reeves took over, dude had Batman straight up said "no gun" to Gordon. Snyder may nailed the gary stu aspects of Batman ,but he doesnt understand the core of Batman. Reeves literally took everything gadgets, fighting skills, playboi persona..Out of Batman, still managed to make a good Batman film. now imagine the sequel, and Battinson with all the aspects you loved, he will definitely the best for sure.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 2 месяца назад +17

    I’m kind of on this whole situation.
    On one hand, I completely agree that Batman shouldn’t be a murderer. He supposed to stand for something better than lethal violence. Bruce has seen repeatably the horrors of death and wouldn’t inflict that on anyone else. What are you agree with his method or not? It’s very respectable and shows that no matter how violent he may appear he has a good heart.
    On the other hand, though, I can understand the appeal of wanting to push your character into uncomfortable places. We all know that the main Batman will never kill. So I can see why people would like to question “well what if he did?” What happens to a hero when they cross the line? Are they too far gone and they’re now better than the villains, or can he come back to the light? in a better story, I think this would be a really interesting direction to take Batman, even if I personally would not have him kill someone.
    I think the best story to tackle this concept is Arkham City. The game has a big theme of “should you let terrible people die even if it’s for an unjust reason?”
    Not only is Batman’s moral code several times by enemies and allies alike throughout the game, but even by the end, Batman questions if he should just let the joker die, but ultimately stands by his convictions. It handles the same in a more respectful manner to the character established in my opinion.

    • @kennethsatria6607
      @kennethsatria6607 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah but the way he discussed it Snyder was obviously not thinking about character nuance he just wanted a batman that kills because its cooler to him and brings up flawed excuses like old man batman in Dark Knight Returns.
      WHO DOESN'T KILL OR USE GUNS TO KILL EITHER
      The shot where he used a sniper was for a grapling hook, and another case was him using a pistol to trigger a bomb, Dark Knight batman hates guns like any other batman and sure as hell still doesn't wanna kill, its why the Joker had to finish the job and kill himself when Batman was forced to break the latter's neck

    • @seregagerassimov4864
      @seregagerassimov4864 2 месяца назад

      @@kennethsatria6607 yes. Obviously, in TDKR universe, this Batman is old and violent, but he still stands by his rules.
      Even when he was saying to Joker "How many people I've killed by letting you live.", he still didn't kill him.

    • @nunyabusiness863
      @nunyabusiness863 10 дней назад

      As mentioned, the problem is his reasoning. He says he wants to do it just to be contrarian (kind of like rian jonson). He also said batman would be in a Tibetan prison and get raped in prison. What? Why would you even think of that? What does that have to do with batman?

  • @shawnwilcowski
    @shawnwilcowski 2 месяца назад +14

    Fr his God comment was weird, he likes art for arts sake”this is cool so its good”

  • @chriscolombie4135
    @chriscolombie4135 2 месяца назад +17

    I agree with having to put Batman in a situation where he is has no choice at all and see what happens, it make for some incredible character moments but snyder didn’t even do that , he just made him a mass murderer there wasn’t that build up that one slip up that made him go nuts, at least if it was there fine but nope he fucked up

    • @josephdent6825
      @josephdent6825 2 месяца назад +4

      Arkham Origins did that and Batman found a way around that by temporarily stopping Bane’s heart. Telltale did the same thing to with Riddler!

    • @MasonMorris1204
      @MasonMorris1204 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@josephdent6825 origins batman was fire

  • @theanonymousmonkey
    @theanonymousmonkey 2 месяца назад +6

    Snyder’s Batman could’ve worked if we had an established universe Batman before hand. A different interpretation that studies the fact he could be pushed to kill isn’t bad, but we had nothing to really compare it too other than Bale and he breaks his rule three times (Not counting background kills)

  • @Spider_God
    @Spider_God 2 месяца назад +52

    The only 2 RUclipsrs that as soon as they post I get hyped for the video is Demigah and CoryxKenshin both are absolutely goats

    • @elctrn3311
      @elctrn3311 2 месяца назад +7

      We get hyped for cory cuz he always leaves lol he cool tho

    • @rjmiggins5296
      @rjmiggins5296 2 месяца назад +3

      RDC, demigah & Jettro Jettro all Goated individuals 💯

    • @DoctorFate1997
      @DoctorFate1997 2 месяца назад

      Ofc but don't forget RDC WORLD tho

    • @redac1ed326
      @redac1ed326 2 месяца назад +1

      On god this man just spits to many facts, I can't miss um
      Edit: youtube placed my comment multiple times I got rid of the others.

    • @aegisforge1177
      @aegisforge1177 2 месяца назад

      @@rjmiggins5296Jettro Jettro mentioned!

  • @NethanTheDrawer2
    @NethanTheDrawer2 2 месяца назад +4

    The thing about the whole "putting Batman in a situation where he has to kill" thing is that he is put in that situation so many times and he ALWAYS finds a way not to.

  • @ryanmessina7309
    @ryanmessina7309 2 месяца назад +8

    Didn't he (or someone on his team) not remember that Krypton exploded when they were making Man of Steel?

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      What? 😂

    • @HoodedSpidey
      @HoodedSpidey 2 месяца назад +1

      No, it was the WB execs and it was *HIM* that reminded them.

  • @KazuyaVeranes
    @KazuyaVeranes 2 месяца назад +5

    There are so many people in here who don’t have the slightest clue of who Batman is. His reluctance to kill is what keeps him from crossing the line and becoming just what he sets out to stop.
    It’s not a difficult concept, unless you’re an insanely ignorant Snyder fan, willing to completely ignore logic and rational thoughts simply because of what he said.

  • @Kevykev2007
    @Kevykev2007 2 месяца назад +6

    I think Batman V Superman having a Batman at his lowest point is a interesting idea he's at a point where the rules he held himself by his getting closer to breaking but in the end dont have him kill people instead have him be able to rise back up again and become The Batman we all know and love

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      I wouldn't have mind seeing him contemplate a murder then held back. That's perfectly fine, seeing as he would've been at his lowest point, but what we got was much worse

    • @vanillabatcave5677
      @vanillabatcave5677 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, there is a great video by HiTop films that explained how much better the "Save Martha" scene would have been if Batman didn't kill in the movie, that being the moment where he is finally going to cross that line after wating it for years only to be reminded of why he fights and who he is, not going to kill an alien but a man, something Bats would never do.

  • @bumpy742
    @bumpy742 2 месяца назад +2

    There was ONE injustice comic where Batman did kill, but he immediately turned himself in for the crime hereafter. That proves to me that people can write a story of Batman doing something out of his character without flat out destroying it.

  • @mr.knightthedetective7435
    @mr.knightthedetective7435 2 месяца назад +6

    Snyder doesn't know jackshit about comics in general, he took what he though was cool without reading it thoroughly and decided to make a shitshow adaptation. Its a good thing he got fired from WB, Snyder should stay away from comics media as far as possible

    • @SuCKeRPunCH187
      @SuCKeRPunCH187 12 дней назад +1

      he looks at the pretty pictures and just puts that on the screen. No innovation, no originality, no creativity at all.

  • @SkyExplosion
    @SkyExplosion 2 месяца назад +4

    After Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead I don't he even understands good movies.

  • @jkiture
    @jkiture 2 месяца назад +3

    There are many problems with the whole "batman should kill" thing one of them being is if he went around killing his enemies then the government authorities would have to take him down . This would make his Job much harder

  • @chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926
    @chaptermastermarneuscalgar6926 2 месяца назад +3

    When you try to create a live action Justice League, but end up creating the Crime Syndicate or Justice Lords.
    I'd also like to point out that Snyder's defence of his murderous Batman (basically Owlman) was to basically sum up every encounter Batman has had with the Joker because the Joker's main goal in life is to push Batman into breaking the no kill rule.

  • @Salvage1009
    @Salvage1009 2 месяца назад +3

    Bro said Batman SMOKED a thug in front of a kid, he needs to stay far away from DC

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +2

      Don’t let him touch the DCU

  • @AragornSynthius
    @AragornSynthius 18 дней назад +2

    It's bad that people want to see Batman kill but Marvel wants to water down The Punisher due to a small groups of people whining about the skull.

  • @White_Knight_Real
    @White_Knight_Real 2 месяца назад +3

    Making Batman kill is like having Spider-Man drop being a hero and being responsible because "I'm bored" or because his hatred gets to him. Snyder is NOT good at making Batman movies and is genuinely overrated

  • @Eleyrica
    @Eleyrica 2 месяца назад +9

    Y'all seem to forget batkeaton always killed in his movies 💀

    • @ToBy11334
      @ToBy11334 2 месяца назад +17

      Yeah and that’s one of the most major complaints for those movies and they came from a time when people didn’t care if it was comic accurate

    • @samburgerwithcheeze8145
      @samburgerwithcheeze8145 2 месяца назад +14

      I like how people bring this up, and wasn't born when the movie first came out. It's easy to say that when it's 20 years later when we had no Internet to converse our thoughts, so of course you think no body complained, THEY DID, they just wasn't the news or on TV in general (which was the only way at the time to spread your opinion).
      I like his movies but still don't like that he kills, just like I like batflecks batman but hate that he kills. Even in Spider-Man 3 that cut a scene where he killed a dude by smashing him through a window, they took it out because they understood he wouldn't do that, people just don't have the same compassion with batman. If you want a batman who kills adapt flash point batman

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +8

      He smiled when he realised homie was gonna die, too 😂😂

    • @Isaacisaperson4677
      @Isaacisaperson4677 2 месяца назад

      It and it was dumb there too

    • @Eleyrica
      @Eleyrica 2 месяца назад +1

      @@samburgerwithcheeze8145 I know that because of batkeaton killing there was some controversy or something like that at the time but i feel like people are way more harsh about batfleck killing than they are with batkeaton

  • @JaniacTheHedgehog
    @JaniacTheHedgehog 2 месяца назад +3

    It's worse how the Snyder Cultists defend Snyder's decision. Like I swear, most them MF's have never touched a comic page in their life, 'cause they constantly have to attack others for not liking that idea for Batman.

  • @fragile4408
    @fragile4408 2 месяца назад +3

    Zack Snyder: What happens when you put him a situation where he has to kill someone
    Then you get the amazing ending to the great movie that is Batman Under The Red Hood. Where he's get put ina situation that literally tests everything he stands for and believes in.
    He found a way to get out of it without killing either Jason or Joker.
    Batman Under The Red Hood is *THE* best Batman movie and I will die on that friggin hill. Solid animation, fantastic pacing, great action, and hell you don't even need to be a Batman fan to enjoy it! The movie does a amazing job of introducing the concept of multiple robins and whatever. God I could gush about that movie for hours.

  • @callmev3531
    @callmev3531 2 месяца назад +2

    1:05, Weirdly enough, most live action Batman iterations are put in positions where they directly or indirectly kill someone (Keaton’s killing his Joker and some goons, Kilmer’s tricking his Harvey with those coins to fall to his death, Bale’s abandoning Ra’s Al Ghul, tackling his Harvey of a platform to protect Gordon’s family, and crashing Talia Al Ghul’s truck, and finally Afleck’s openly slaughtering goons with cannons, explosives and even a crate thrown with his grapnel).
    The issue is, if we’re talking about putting Batman in positions where he has no choice but to directly or indirectly kill someone, the best live action Batman to do that while still keeping his “no killing” rule relevant is Bale’s, as a major aspect of that iteration is his refusal to become an “executioner”, to not kill people who were defenseless (like he was as a child) or otherwise not a threat to him or anyone else due to his abilities being so advanced compared to most people he encounters. He let Ra’s die because he had no other way to stop him or the League Of Shadows, a literal army of ninjas all sharing his combat and espionage training, an organization that contributed to Gotham’s poverty and indirectly killed his parents. Harvey shooting him limited his ability to protect Gordon’s family from him and all he could do was just tackling Harvey away from them. And Talia was armed with an active nuke counting down to destroy the city, meaning Batman had to get to it as fast as possible, even if it meant potentially endangering Talia in the process.
    Otherwise, in most other circumstances, his capabilities and equipment allowed him to subdue most of his enemies without killing them, including Joker, who once incarcerated, realistically had no means of escape or getting any kind of leniency from the courts, not with all he’s done. This adaptation of the “no killing” rule is less rigid than in the comics, but it makes sense considering this version of Batman’s world is meant to be closer to a normal world than most adaptations, having Batman specifically being against executing or assassinating people (again, killing people who are defenseless) but willing to kill to defend others in desperate circumstances where he can’t control every aspect of a situation works for that version of the character and the world and story he inhabits.
    Affleck’s Batman does the exact opposite, openly attacking most of his opponents with lethal force, even in situations where doing so actively goes against his goals, such as the Batmobile chase where he first planted a tracker on the vehicle’s he’d be following to the Kryptonite storage, then needlessly and completely unprovoked, he follows this up by nearly flattening the whole convoy with his Batmobile before they even reach their destination and reveal the location to him. It’s there just to have a bombastic action sequence with the Batmobile and has no functional purpose to the plot (such as having Batman overhear something about one of the goons that sends him into a frenzy that briefly sabotages his own mission, showing Batman becoming murderous has made him undisciplined and ineffective).
    Afleck’s Batman being this willing to kill, directly or indirectly, (even more so than Keaton’s, the other most lethal Batman) also creates another problem, as it opens the question of why any supercriminals are still alive in Gotham, what would stop Batman from executing and assassinating them (especially Joker and Harley after their killing of Robin supposedly was the catalyst that made him lethal to begin with). The only real logical answer is Batman is only willing to kill when in a fight, but this still doesn’t explain the amount of supercriminals that have survived where several goons have perished. At least Keaton’s was consistent enough to actually kill off some of his villains along with some of the goons that were in his way.
    Either way, it’s a mess.

  • @maylabrown4584
    @maylabrown4584 Месяц назад +1

    It’s weird cause it feels like Affleck’s Batman is the older version of Pattinson’s Batman and vice versa, but that isn’t the case, what kind of Bizarro World do we live in???

  • @Cruddy129
    @Cruddy129 2 месяца назад +2

    I think the ONLY thing that would even work if Snyder is doing this, is to adapt the flashpoint comic where an alternate world where Tom Wayne is batman and Martha's the Joker
    but if he's just gonna make THE batman a murderer, that'll literally destroy his entire character

  • @OraNui
    @OraNui 2 месяца назад +1

    Crazy to think it's been 8 years since BvS came out...

  • @eminayeart
    @eminayeart 2 месяца назад +2

    A Batman that kills makes a character like Red hood pointless in DC imo

  • @altalia07
    @altalia07 2 месяца назад +1

    Ben Affleck looks EXACTLY like a middle ages Bruce Wayne. He was PERFECT!

  • @yarc9
    @yarc9 2 месяца назад +2

    Zack Snyder doesn’t understand Batman I’m happy he got fired from dc I’m excited too see what James Gunn is cooking up

  • @kendrickrodriguez4713
    @kendrickrodriguez4713 2 месяца назад

    Hey demi, love your videos man, i listen to you while playing video games, and I can't wait for the next one. :)

  • @RyomenAyeni225
    @RyomenAyeni225 2 месяца назад +2

    This is why I believe Patterson is the best Batman and “The Batman” series of movies should stay disconnected

  • @RyuzakiMura
    @RyuzakiMura 2 месяца назад

    I’ll always say this, your outro is fire, where that link at bro

  • @kennethsatria6607
    @kennethsatria6607 2 месяца назад +1

    Its a huge shame cause amongst the great ideas and cooler directors cut version of his movies that show he does have passion, its that one hangup he has of heroes like Superman and Batman not killing that dooms him to failure as a guy who's job is to adapt them.
    And he hides it very poorly, the guy just wants to show death and violence for the cool factor.
    The very least he could do is try to work in between like the argument with Man of Steel was it could've been Superman's moment of trauma that he had to execute someone to save innocents and so "never again", or Batman in BVS having the goal to Kill Superman, him being his one planned killing should have had more gravity because its the one time he's tempted to do so after unseen trauma with I assume Jason Todd.
    But the guy has absolutely no self awareness when it comes to this its just really sad.
    I hope we don't get a somehow worse case with James Gunn (he's succeeded before but always a chance our trust will be betrayed)

  • @TheRealDoggoCEO
    @TheRealDoggoCEO 2 месяца назад +2

    Zack Snyder is absolutely clueless. I'm not surprised since this is the same person who shamelessly stole from Star Wars and Warhammer 40k and STILL managed to make an awfully mid film.

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 2 месяца назад

    0:18 not just about adopting the comic book, but also the animated movie. I got it this way: live action adapt the animation, which adapted in the comic.

  • @Thepopcultureguy388
    @Thepopcultureguy388 2 месяца назад +3

    Snyder why does this man wanna make batman kill. Hash tag make dc great again and agreed Batflek

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 2 месяца назад

    3:03 that’s because they had the director of the animated version of dark Knight returns help with Zach Snyder to choirgraph, his fights.

  • @blazembz7713
    @blazembz7713 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video Demi I stand by all the points that you made. Batman is one of the motivational characters ever he sticks to his own morals and gets his talents through hard work and dedication. The Arkham games explore that morality well and so does Under the Red Hood. So to have him destroy that one rule doesnt make him Batman it makes The Red Hood or Grim Knight. Its a integral part of his character that makes him more interesting

  • @7xenonian7
    @7xenonian7 2 месяца назад

    2:03 the accent switch up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @arvengusX
    @arvengusX 2 месяца назад

    Whats the best advice to someone who wants to start reading comics? Do i read any random one or is there order?
    I mean both DC and Marvel

  • @jxlennn
    @jxlennn 2 месяца назад

    He also made the dead Robin in BVS Dick Grayson so we could never get nightwing, the titans, or even red hood in the DCEU because of him.

  • @shawnjackson3764
    @shawnjackson3764 Месяц назад

    the outro is fire

  • @commonsense5199
    @commonsense5199 2 месяца назад +2

    Did you ask Zack Snyder, if he read All Star Batman & Robin? Cause I Got a feeling he got inspiration from that as well.
    Because All Star Batman & Robin is where Batman kills. Batman burn criminals alive while he’s having sex with Black Canary.
    All Star Batman & Robin is a comic you should never take inspiration from.
    Even in that comic Dick Grayson almost kill Green Lantern. Yeah Batman save his but isn’t Dick, the first Robin supposed to stop Batman if he goes too far not the other way around?

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      I did not ask him that 😂

  • @vigorthecharacter4396
    @vigorthecharacter4396 2 месяца назад

    in case you haven’t noticed, there’s an episode of Batman the animated series when Scarecrow created the gas that gets rid of fear
    Batman was exposed to the gas and he became a psychopath that he killed an alligator

  • @liar2436
    @liar2436 5 дней назад

    He f*cked up superman and batman so hard
    They are literally one of the most iconic superhero duo, but somehow snyder managed to ruin them

  • @nicktroisi6347
    @nicktroisi6347 2 месяца назад +2

    Batman doesn’t kill. Period. End of story
    Yes he did kill in The Golden Age but that was later retconned and was a different version of the mainstream Batman. Not to mention it was nearly 90 years ago

  • @christhechilled
    @christhechilled 2 месяца назад +2

    The whole talk about Batman killing old news. Snyder want it to be relevant because in Batman FIRST conception in the comic books was him killing his villains. Look it up! Brucie Bruce was not taking prisoners. I believe that is where Synder was coming from.

    • @WhiteManOnCampus
      @WhiteManOnCampus 2 месяца назад

      That also comes from a different angle with modern heroes. The no-killing rule wasn't really introduced into comics as a moral imperative, but because it was getting difficult to invent new villains. Now, however, Batman has a complex character that does not permit killing for multiple reasons. It makes much less sense why someone like Harvey Bullock doesn't fall on his sword and "accidentally" three magazines into the back of the clown's head once he's in custody, but once again that's because comics don't want to invent a new villain every week. A hero who kills is fine, and honestly I'd say we need more of them, because killing evil is not an evil act. However, Batman has been built up into a character who cannot kill.

    • @jrloulanza6534
      @jrloulanza6534 2 месяца назад

      Stryker is alive.

    • @christhechilled
      @christhechilled 2 месяца назад

      @@WhiteManOnCampuscool

    • @christhechilled
      @christhechilled 2 месяца назад

      @@jrloulanza6534who?

  • @realsanmer
    @realsanmer Месяц назад

    "You would make a movie where Batman is a mass murderer before you make a Red Hood movie!"
    God the truth in this statement hurts.

  • @nataliawashington872
    @nataliawashington872 2 месяца назад

    2:46 I’ve learned that fan films, hell even some fanfictions can nail comic book characters better than Hollywood can

  • @RacingSnails64
    @RacingSnails64 2 месяца назад +1

    "Homie just compared Bruce Wayne to God" 💀
    Snyder sounds so wildly out of touch. "I want to see what happens." If Batman were to kill, then he would kill. Congratulations. That's not an interesting scenario. It instantly becomes boring if it's all that Batman does.
    Bruce Wayne is interesting *because* he doesn't kill, because he has to figure out alternative ways to win. Remember the finale of Arkham Origins? Where Joker dares Batman to kill Bane otherwise he'll suicide by electric chair? So you know what Bruce does? *He stops Bane's heart temporarily.* That is INFINITELY more interesting than if he were to just slaughter them.

    • @Geralddd966
      @Geralddd966 2 месяца назад

      Not what he said.your god just means you are making him a dumb ass for not killing some villians ,saying he doesnt kill is just kinda dumb ...i mean if he killed gotham would be better off

  • @jtcustoms4297
    @jtcustoms4297 2 месяца назад

    I feel like channel pup did a great job talking about it in his video

  • @alien9977
    @alien9977 2 месяца назад +3

    Was waiting for u to bring up that Zack was comfortably ok to have his Batman get graped* in prison

  • @NebyuGameFreak
    @NebyuGameFreak 2 месяца назад +1

    Batman is supposed to be one thing: A Symbol of Justice

  • @mrkaji8913
    @mrkaji8913 2 месяца назад

    1:55 same, that’s what’s the animated movies do so why can’t the live action?

  • @JURASSICJACK303
    @JURASSICJACK303 Месяц назад +1

    Batman isn't a killer he's batman

  • @xyzz8722
    @xyzz8722 2 месяца назад

    What he said, its fine used in comics which come like hundreds per year and there are so many different canons.
    And it would work in film aswell, but only once and it needs to be impactful.

  • @anonimoqualquer9422
    @anonimoqualquer9422 2 месяца назад

    Just a question (and a request if possible): What do you think that was missing in Robbert Pattinson's and Christian Bale's?
    (The request): Could you stream a Batman: Arkham Knight playtrough?

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      Sadly, I cannot. I can't really afford to lend my time to things that won't get too many views atm. As well as the fact that I've beaten arkham knight over ten times now 😂😂One for every year it's been out it feels like. Robert was missing key Bruce Wayne characteristics and moments, while Bale was just a slow fighter

    • @anonimoqualquer9422
      @anonimoqualquer9422 2 месяца назад

      Ok@@Demigah , thanks for the answer

  • @hailmendoza6106
    @hailmendoza6106 2 месяца назад +1

    This is the same guy who made 300. He doesn't have "subtley and nuance" bone in his body 😂

  • @Aso7989
    @Aso7989 2 месяца назад +3

    Batman killing people wouldn’t make him Batman, Also have you seen the new dragon ball sparking zero gameplay showcase? It’s amazing

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      Sadly, I am not a db fan

    • @Aso7989
      @Aso7989 2 месяца назад

      @@Demigah oh

    • @seynpurrp
      @seynpurrp 2 месяца назад

      @@Demigah lol same

  • @jorgenunez5651
    @jorgenunez5651 2 месяца назад

    Red hood, thomas wayne, batman who laughs, owlman...he have a lot of alternatives

  • @bennyconk
    @bennyconk 2 месяца назад

    Imma have to call you Reverend Demigah cuz you are preaching every upload with facts 👏
    Amen Reverend Demigah 🙏

  • @annonjames2433
    @annonjames2433 2 месяца назад +1

    I understand what he’s saying to an extent. His argument being yes he doesn’t kill but what would a world look like if he were just killing people. At the same time he’s way outta pocket lol. That’s like Harley Quinn and ending bat man oh wait …😂

  • @jenpachi2408
    @jenpachi2408 2 месяца назад +1

    My guy demigah spitting facts couldn't have said it better myself

  • @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz
    @LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz 2 месяца назад +1

    This is going to get wild

  • @Taxevader-gk9ms
    @Taxevader-gk9ms 2 месяца назад

    he literally saw the dark knight returns saw the part where batman fights superman and based his entire story on that and batman didn't even get his own movie

  • @_Irrelevant
    @_Irrelevant Месяц назад +1

    Snyder hated our heroes. That's why he failed.

  • @therussiancomicbookgeek
    @therussiancomicbookgeek 2 месяца назад +1

    That fight seen was awesome

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      One of the best I’ve seen in a ComicBook movie

  • @datdankdj8264
    @datdankdj8264 2 месяца назад

    If he wanted a Killer Batman he should’ve adapted Flashpoint where Thomas Wayne was Batman cause that Batman stayed strapped. Also, love how you clearly know your stuff when it comes to Batman. Most people only know the movies but you know what makes Batman such a compelling character. You’re a real one D

  • @Hi-xr7fk
    @Hi-xr7fk Месяц назад

    Just a reminder Zack Snyder also literally quoted one of superman's villain Manchester black with the "you're living in a dream world", he was really just the wrong person for superman smh

  • @benderthepirate
    @benderthepirate 2 месяца назад

    “I want to see what happens when Batman kills.”
    He would quit and turn himself in to the police. Boom, there’s Snyder’s answer. That’s what the “Injustice” storyline did and it made sense for Batman to do that after crossing that line.

  • @deus1521
    @deus1521 2 месяца назад

    The batman i always want is who that's dont kill but always make sure the villain can never Abell do crime. If you think about it is more scary and a same time can be more wholesome

  • @DefLxrd
    @DefLxrd 2 месяца назад

    Love your content man your Awesome 💜

  • @jairthemememaster
    @jairthemememaster 2 месяца назад

    I’m going to have nightmares because of you now. I already see that version of Zach in my head

  • @TheArkhamBatman_
    @TheArkhamBatman_ 2 месяца назад +6

    Hi :)

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад

      Hello :)

  • @jrloulanza6534
    @jrloulanza6534 2 месяца назад

    Giants of Hugo Strange is NON CANON and most likely takes place in an alternate Earth Two like most Superman stories rather than being a prequel and Stryker might still be alive.

  • @ashawnamv2117
    @ashawnamv2117 2 месяца назад

    Ayo another topic, Demigah have you seen the Marvel 1943 trailer yet?👀🔥

  • @rpg9722
    @rpg9722 2 месяца назад

    At this point considering the hard on dc has for evil batman at the moment it wouldn't suprise me if we see a live action batman wholaighs or grimm knight

  • @spoonsrattling
    @spoonsrattling 2 месяца назад

    It's wack to make batman kill constantly, because some of batman best moments are when he is about to kill but backs down. Like in batman hush when he's about to beat the joker's brain in but Gordon talks him down.

  • @hashaeunlimited7970
    @hashaeunlimited7970 2 месяца назад +1

    I want a red hood series any day od the week. He is the anti hero we all need.

  • @bigchadyea2991
    @bigchadyea2991 2 месяца назад

    I wholeheartedly think that if dc give fans a budget and lets them write ideas is the only way they can become back on too

  • @OogaBooga24723
    @OogaBooga24723 2 месяца назад +5

    Day 1 of edging to Demigah’s videos 🤤

    • @DarkkOne6743
      @DarkkOne6743 2 месяца назад +1

      WTF🤣🤣

    • @Demigah
      @Demigah  2 месяца назад +1

      Find God.

    • @legogeneralgrievous3958
      @legogeneralgrievous3958 2 месяца назад +1

      What on earth did I just read

    • @seynpurrp
      @seynpurrp 2 месяца назад

      @@Demigah dont you mean find "GAH", eh eh eh?
      ill see myself out.

  • @Fantasticjabber
    @Fantasticjabber 2 месяца назад +2

    Tbh snyder's batman and superman were punisher and hulk. Superman is a melancholy and angry loose canon and batman well is punisher in disguise.

  • @jlpgamin
    @jlpgamin 2 месяца назад +1

    I wouldn't call being an established genius tactician and using your brain to get out of a situation without killing plot armor. Still agree overall but still