I know you like weird drift car history Aaron, I highly suggest looking into the history of the skyline on the hoist. One of Canada's most iconic cars, and used to be super jdm style. I grew up watching that car win all the competitions. Used to be in a team with Rob (chairslayer) There's an old zip tied thread someplace, drove in D1 one time at Irwindale. Really interesting history on that car.
Keep the 390cfm carb. With e85 metering block(s) and proper jetting you'll have a really strong vacuum signal and more reliable low end response. Carbs are fun in ways when you get how the emulsion tube, air bleeds, jets and their circuits work together, but EFI is nicer. Could just put a fast efi system or something like that on it too.
That moment when you friend thinks his 240sx on jack stands that hasn't run in 10 years is worth 15k. It has been sitting so long inside the paint is fading and falling off.
I own an automotive fabrication shop in Reno Nevada. Not bagging kn anyone at all but, if you would have brought those to me i would have just made you new control arms. As long as you have a mandrel bender, welder, and some 4130 stock building static lower control arms is SO easy. Obviously you have to take steps to ensure the geometry doesn't change, but the pick ups are flat. So it would be relatively simple. I made control arms for my old missile car ('87 tbird) in 6 hours. Threw it on my buddies alignment rack, it was so dialed. I really regret getting rid of that thing. It had a 620hp 13.5:1 347 stroker with port injection, tremec tko, twin disc, curry 9 inch housing with 4.56 gears and a polar industries spool in the 3rd member. Watts link, BC coilovers, baer big brakes, hydro handbrake, haltech elite 2500, on e90. It made 540 wheel (well, 532 but 540 sounds better). With me in it and 10 gallons of fuel it only weighed 2830 pounds. One of the most playful drift cars ive ever owned. That chassis is just majic when its made nice and rigid.
wanted to do this since highschool when i messed with buddies circle track fleet for a few years. i think now with you guys doing videos that are basiacally a how too, i may finally try it out. love you nutbags!!!
I think my other comment got booted, but your knuckle difference side to side is because your knuckles have different KPI each side. Measuring what you have and replacing one side to make a matching set will help matching the sides and the vertical swing of the knuckle. What's going to happen if you'll find you can't match the caster now.
I'm not sure if you have anything done for the e85 carb situation yet. But Horsepower Innovations builds custom e85 carbs. He set one up for my V8 swapped Volvo. I gave him my build sheet and he set up a Holley XP 4150 for e85, gave me a ton of information on maintenance, cleaning ECT ECT. The carb was tuned out of the box and I haven't touched a damn thing in 2 years beyond cleaning. He's located in Michigan.
Put a 650 cfm on it. It will definitely pick up power. You can also change the intake and either gain hp and lose low end torque or lose hp and gain torque
love the videos, just if u could not move the camera around quite so much or fast, it makes the viewer nearly dizzy, also what ever happened with dyno results, is it mega power or did u find the extra bhp you had expected to have?
What pill 💊 does the MSD box have in it for rev limit? Also MSD boxes sometimes have an issue with electro magnet interface and you may just need a MSD shielded cable that could help. I had an issue on my old 68 mustang that it would feel like the engine hit a brick wall at 4K like a rev limiter and it turned out to be I needed the shielded cable because something was freaking it out.
Have you considered fabricating your own control arms and whatnot with tubes? I remember hoonigan did it on one of those one week build v build challenges
I think they might gain a bit from new knuckles tbh, those are beefy and have a weird Ackerman setup from originally being asymmetrical. A skinnier spindle with the center point moved in a little might not contact the control arm as soon. That said, a higher clearance arm is never a bad thing and they’d definitely benefit from one
Negative ackerman is going to feel funny. Really recommend you try and get the leading wheel to turn the same angle as trailing wheel, if not more than trailing wheel. Idk any drifter that runs negative ackerman.
Aaron why you haven't extended upper A arm same length as lower? You've decreased contact patch and grip. Double A arm suspension works a bit different than strut one like in 240. It's more like 350z.
And most z kits utilize the stock upper control arm. The point of extending a lower arm for an angle kit isn’t primarily to gain track width, it’s to increase camber so that at full lock you have more contact patch due to normal alignment geometry. Without negative camber, at high angle, your tires have less contact and grip. Increasing static negative camber will cause the tires to be at full or at least more contact at lock, which is why most drift cars run 4-6 degrees of negative camber. Widening the upper arm will negate that benefit
Why not find a chassis who’s mounting points are similar and just make mounts off the frame? Then you could buy off the shelf parts if something breaks
You can't really be pro or against scrub radius, you have it anyways. Lots of positive scrub, as described, is indeed often used in drifting. Mostly as a bandaid to mask errors in lock kit geometry, ie to make the car autocenter.
@@LoneStarDrift its nice to start in a somewhat correct ballpark. But the chassis & wheel combo people want to run dictates their angle setup more often than actual desired geometry.
@@LoneStarDrift I think you got a RPF1 pass and you are now not only allowed but obligated to do the RPF1s in every car. Bet youll have one ingraved on your tombstone xD actually loving the series , not loving the 3 weeks since last update thingy tbo
@@LoneStarDrift on this car the scrub radius is different than your S14 with the same wheel. So in essence, its not driving the same even with similar arm geometry
Who says you don't need to learn geometry and roll centers lol. Remember those upper a plates that hold upper control arms were placed and welded for circle track racing.
there's a drifter I know who's 180sx has had the same SR20DET for over 9 years. You read that correctly, 9 years of drifting on 1 SR20 without rebuilding it.
ROFL - the bird segment had me rolling. Great series! Love the idea of road course/circle track to drift car.
If this car doesn’t have a giant pigeon incorporated into the livery I’m gonna riot
I really find this project fascinating. Please keep doing these videos, you're doing a great job.
I know you like weird drift car history Aaron, I highly suggest looking into the history of the skyline on the hoist. One of Canada's most iconic cars, and used to be super jdm style. I grew up watching that car win all the competitions. Used to be in a team with Rob (chairslayer) There's an old zip tied thread someplace, drove in D1 one time at Irwindale.
Really interesting history on that car.
Keep the 390cfm carb. With e85 metering block(s) and proper jetting you'll have a really strong vacuum signal and more reliable low end response. Carbs are fun in ways when you get how the emulsion tube, air bleeds, jets and their circuits work together, but EFI is nicer. Could just put a fast efi system or something like that on it too.
I agree with you maybe a holley throttlebody efi conversion may fit there needs
@@hectorrivera5093 no need to worry about the fuel level in the bowls and float mods when going side to side with EFI
"i can sell u that s13 subframe for $15k and u can keep the car with it" LMAO
That moment when you friend thinks his 240sx on jack stands that hasn't run in 10 years is worth 15k. It has been sitting so long inside the paint is fading and falling off.
@@LoneStarDrift i KnOw wHaT i HaVe nO LoWbALeRs
Sadly that's what the 240 market is these days my buddy sold his for 10k with low compression single cam cut springs and eBay exhaust
I’ll be there tomorrow can’t wait to check that thing out in person!
I own an automotive fabrication shop in Reno Nevada. Not bagging kn anyone at all but, if you would have brought those to me i would have just made you new control arms. As long as you have a mandrel bender, welder, and some 4130 stock building static lower control arms is SO easy. Obviously you have to take steps to ensure the geometry doesn't change, but the pick ups are flat. So it would be relatively simple. I made control arms for my old missile car ('87 tbird) in 6 hours. Threw it on my buddies alignment rack, it was so dialed. I really regret getting rid of that thing. It had a 620hp 13.5:1 347 stroker with port injection, tremec tko, twin disc, curry 9 inch housing with 4.56 gears and a polar industries spool in the 3rd member. Watts link, BC coilovers, baer big brakes, hydro handbrake, haltech elite 2500, on e90. It made 540 wheel (well, 532 but 540 sounds better). With me in it and 10 gallons of fuel it only weighed 2830 pounds. One of the most playful drift cars ive ever owned. That chassis is just majic when its made nice and rigid.
wanted to do this since highschool when i messed with buddies circle track fleet for a few years. i think now with you guys doing videos that are basiacally a how too, i may finally try it out. love you nutbags!!!
Love this build, keep up the good work!
“He’s aerodynamic he should be able to go 80”😂😂😂 had me rolling Aaron
the end was hilarious... the dove launched off the window like an "angry birds" game!
I think my other comment got booted, but your knuckle difference side to side is because your knuckles have different KPI each side. Measuring what you have and replacing one side to make a matching set will help matching the sides and the vertical swing of the knuckle. What's going to happen if you'll find you can't match the caster now.
I'm not sure if you have anything done for the e85 carb situation yet.
But Horsepower Innovations builds custom e85 carbs. He set one up for my V8 swapped Volvo. I gave him my build sheet and he set up a Holley XP 4150 for e85, gave me a ton of information on maintenance, cleaning ECT ECT.
The carb was tuned out of the box and I haven't touched a damn thing in 2 years beyond cleaning.
He's located in Michigan.
#Love #the #Bird lol Shows how 'Good People' you are.
Put a 650 cfm on it. It will definitely pick up power. You can also change the intake and either gain hp and lose low end torque or lose hp and gain torque
haha!! "Look its not our problem." Words to live by
love the videos, just if u could not move the camera around quite so much or fast, it makes the viewer nearly dizzy, also what ever happened with dyno results, is it mega power or did u find the extra bhp you had expected to have?
It was floating the valves so they just left it alone and are going to drift it like that I guess lol.
This is goals for me I can’t wait until I can build cars as well
Have u checked the oil pan yo make sure it isnt one side offset with gates in it if it does u will need to change it
Those cuts on the lower arms were tough to look at
Is there any caster adjustment? Are you guys checking that?
You should look into one of those Fi-Tech efi conversions if you don't want to deal with the carburetor setup
Fi tech sucks and sp does the holley sniper bs just buy a carb lol
Curious to what they did for Joey Laganos drift NASCAR. There was an interview where he said all they did was put adapters and "normal" wheels on.
They had RTR helping probably, which is a lot better than having Aaron try and sort this out.
this thing is sick. and that bird was probably really tired and was just like "oh well, todays a good day to go." LMAO
safety glasses are importanty with power tool but not alon face protection and ears are very important too !
What pill 💊 does the MSD box have in it for rev limit? Also MSD boxes sometimes have an issue with electro magnet interface and you may just need a MSD shielded cable that could help. I had an issue on my old 68 mustang that it would feel like the engine hit a brick wall at 4K like a rev limiter and it turned out to be I needed the shielded cable because something was freaking it out.
Make sure you compensate for the change of spring rate because you're moving the leverage point with the extended LCAs.
Have you considered fabricating your own control arms and whatnot with tubes? I remember hoonigan did it on one of those one week build v build challenges
Yeah that will be stage two of the angle kit if we ever get there and if it is needed
I think they might gain a bit from new knuckles tbh, those are beefy and have a weird Ackerman setup from originally being asymmetrical. A skinnier spindle with the center point moved in a little might not contact the control arm as soon.
That said, a higher clearance arm is never a bad thing and they’d definitely benefit from one
@@LoneStarDrift Look at QA1 GM upper and lower for inspiration for Stage2. They are expensive but well designed.
The ending with the bird killed me😂😂😂
Negative ackerman is going to feel funny. Really recommend you try and get the leading wheel to turn the same angle as trailing wheel, if not more than trailing wheel. Idk any drifter that runs negative ackerman.
Was that car from a significantly different altitude? A larger carb would help for sure but i wonder if the tuneup is jacked from an altitude swing
Thumbs up for not running over the bird.
"C'mon man. Don't make your problem our problem" 🤣🤣🤣
Turn right to go left!!!
Aaron why you haven't extended upper A arm same length as lower? You've decreased contact patch and grip.
Double A arm suspension works a bit different than strut one like in 240. It's more like 350z.
We are nibbling at this project, one thing at a time lol. We will get there.
And most z kits utilize the stock upper control arm. The point of extending a lower arm for an angle kit isn’t primarily to gain track width, it’s to increase camber so that at full lock you have more contact patch due to normal alignment geometry. Without negative camber, at high angle, your tires have less contact and grip. Increasing static negative camber will cause the tires to be at full or at least more contact at lock, which is why most drift cars run 4-6 degrees of negative camber. Widening the upper arm will negate that benefit
Why not find a chassis who’s mounting points are similar and just make mounts off the frame? Then you could buy off the shelf parts if something breaks
Circle track parts are off the shelf
For the extra degrees put rack spacers
You can't really be pro or against scrub radius, you have it anyways.
Lots of positive scrub, as described, is indeed often used in drifting.
Mostly as a bandaid to mask errors in lock kit geometry, ie to make the car autocenter.
It helps that I have no clue what I am doing and I am a reflexive driver lol.
@@LoneStarDrift its nice to start in a somewhat correct ballpark. But the chassis & wheel combo people want to run dictates their angle setup more often than actual desired geometry.
@@DriftJesus You mean I shouldn't bolt the exact same RPF1 on every one of my vehicles with the same bolt pattern, width and offset front and rear?
@@LoneStarDrift I think you got a RPF1 pass and you are now not only allowed but obligated to do the RPF1s in every car. Bet youll have one ingraved on your tombstone xD
actually loving the series , not loving the 3 weeks since last update thingy tbo
@@LoneStarDrift on this car the scrub radius is different than your S14 with the same wheel. So in essence, its not driving the same even with similar arm geometry
You should check if the secondary’s are opening up this may be your restriction as well
What’s the reason for sticking with the carburetor motor?
Good ol safety squints
love it
That looks like the Canadian guy I used to see in Washington something fornya probably butched dudes last name but it's a super sick car
Osha approved safety squints
Who says you don't need to learn geometry and roll centers lol. Remember those upper a plates that hold upper control arms were placed and welded for circle track racing.
is there a worry about fuel starve from slosh in the bowl?
I have no idea.
Yayyy 40 min Video!
there's a drifter I know who's 180sx has had the same SR20DET for over 9 years. You read that correctly, 9 years of drifting on 1 SR20 without rebuilding it.
I want to see this thing make some power now
This video is osha approved
Hey that front-right tire is mounted backwards.
Them god dam drunk pigeons can't handle their mescaline 😉🤙
Turns wheel full lock...KACHOWW!
You guys should really bevel the steel before welding those pieces together for better penetration.
pat goodin would have nursed the bird back to good health just like the opossum, come on Aaron
👍💪💯
Kids pay no attention to the whack off talk at 15:01 He's kidding.
You should try n get a hold of junkyard digs utube he is super informed on carburetors
Those look Just like the lowers on my 71 Nova…🤔🤔🤔
the ole safety squints
Doot-da-doo-da-doo
Bro LOOK INTO HOLLEY'S BOLT ON SELF-TUNING EFI
That Odd tires is bugging me hard
with a title like that, how could you not click.
Heat maker who?
That engine might just be some basic crate engine they dropped in there
Saftey squints 🤣🤣😅
Hammering on the actual ball joint 🤦♂️
BC Coilovers would be a down grade
remind me not to buy what ever vehicle that is. the seat belt chime does not stop!!!
Mark have an Instagram?