VW EGR 1.6 / 2.0 TDI Murphyslaw
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- this is a video of some egr that I replaced and how they failed
• VW egr 1.6 2.0 tdi fa...
This is just a quick look at VW egr replacement
on a 1.6 /2.0 egr
I will only use a OEM egr as I had problems with other brands and having them fail soon after fitting.
book a good few hours to do the job
This engine is in the vag group of vehicles
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this video of how some of the egr's have failed. it will give you a good idea of what your up against
How much you charge for this job
@@reefvankut3516 the vw part is around 450 to 500 euros (maybe cheaper now) about 4 hours labour give or take
@@murphyslaw2020 tell me can can the Egr cause oil to mix with water? Cause i keep getting oil in the water bottle. I did put in a new oil cooler with its gaskets but still gets oil in the water
No oil in the egr.
The egr has a cooler but it is coolant
Sounds like a head gasket maybe
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Good video dude nice and straightforward with all the important stuff. top Job 👍
Thanks for the comment hope it helped
The best video guide I’ve watched. Brilliant idea doing the job and putting it all back in place loose to show each part coming off 👍👍.
Thanks for the Nice comment, glad it helped you
@@murphyslaw2020 Thanks for uploading the video. I’m blanking the Egr valve on my wife’s car tomorrow and this video has definitely helped me prepare for it 👍.
thank you for much from Ukraine .
No problem 👍 stay safe
Which other brands did you try?
i've change mine with a EGR from NRF (on a 1,6TDI Touran). No errors so far - but when i accelerate normally it's like the car is a bit hesitant around 1900-2100 revs. Nothing major (can be felt by a passenger only seldom) but can be felt easier by the driver (due to better feeling with the pedal). If the accelartion is very slow or i push "pedal to the metal" then it accelerates as it should with no "hesitation". So error can be felt a little only by normal accelartion by the driver. Do you think it could also be a bad quality EGR?
also i've afterwards noted that the producer of the Orginal EGR is WAHLER and i've found out that they have an aftermarket part Wahler 710861D. Do you use that one or the VW branded part?
On this particular type of egr we used the VW part but I have used other bands that were the same make as the OEM part like you said above and you can see were they rubbed off the VW etc branding and there the same part.
I can't recall the other brands as it so long ago.
@@murphyslaw2020 thanks for the quick reply. Can you remember which errors you got when using other brands? Was it functional errors - ie. the car does not drive/preform well. or was it electronic errors - ie. you get errors when reading out with a diagnostic tool.
@@Bosniantopo hi I have had both. The car can go into limp mode and then reset after the ignition key is cycled . The flow error high / low is normally the valve is stuck or sticking. But it could be a turbo fault like actuator or the vain sticking etc.
The motor on the back can go bad and that can electrical codes mostly from the valve sticking.
Have you any codes in your car
@@murphyslaw2020 nope even after around 800 driven km, no codes from VCDS RossTech. You may be right that it could be something else but it came as coincidence after the EGR and Timing belt is changed (timing belt double checked btw) we plan a long trip in a few weeks, so maybe something will come up after a few thousands of kilometres. 🤷
@@Bosniantopo i have same simptoms on 2.0dti passat 2010,but i think my issue is comming from the blocked egr cooler ,car boosting but sometimes not ,i repleace the egr valve aswell on oem part,and the code was p0401
p0401 exhaust gas recirculation flow insufficient
this code is not comming only from the egr valve is coud be the egr cooler
i give up..and just drive it like that
Wow, just wow... Actually I wanted to buy a B8 cr tdi, but after watching a few videos like this, thanks NO. I will just stick with my old B5.5 avf tdi. Way easier to maintain in every aspect. Gonna get a new turbo + camshaft and bearing kit plus dm clutch kit and it will be ready for the next effortless 350k kms again.
Don't forget injector seals ;)
Does anyone on here know if I can put a 2.0tdi engine into a 1.6tdi bay. Both cars are 2015 passat
Hi the engine look very similar if not the same the injectors are different and few other small things.
The engine should fit, but will it run I'm not sure. You would need to the ecu etc for the engine your fitting
I've never done it so can't say 100%
Excellent walk through the best ive seen, enough detail to for me to now decide, I've had it crawling on my back under cars and its off to the garage and the kids can starve for a week to pay the garage bill and the wife can do without her car until mine is fixed😁😁😁😁 Seriously this is a great video guide for those with experience to follow on key sequence's and for those without to understand the tedious work involved.
Thanks so much for the nice comment. It's one of them jobs you might Start regretting halfway through you started it in the first place.
I personally wouldn't do it on the ground but it is possible just a lot harder.
Great video Murphy! Helped me on my passat 2.0 TDI. Well done!
Glad it helped
Fucking hell. Most of diesel cars arent that hard to reach out the egr! I have a polo tdi 1.2 and the egr is stuck open. It kept stalling the car but i unplugged the return gas pipe and the car is now working but exhaust basically coming into the engine lol i still drive it but i will sell it soon because i genuinely dont want the car anymore just because of how hard is to get to the egr. Not all mechanics can do yhis job. Never buying a VW again.
It's a real pain in the neck to do. It shouldn't be this hard. When some egr valves are 2 bolts to remove
@@murphyslaw2020 exactly..my egr is ruining my engine at this point. I know not all mechanics can do this job and if they can they will charge me a fortune. I rather look for a honda or Toyota car honestly
Great video man.Im replacing failed EGR valve on my 1.6tdi Touran and can say changing cambelt is easier😅Glad I found your video that gave me an idea what I'm up against
Should be very similar. I'd take a cam belt over this too
Jaysus h almighty! Y'know what, I'm going to go off and find a car like I used to own in the 1970's/80's, something simple that I could service repair or maintain all by myself with a few basic tools not all this crap modern vehicles are. I've got a VW T4 2.5 van I bought new in 2003, it's a bleedin nightmare to work on, currently in 'limp' mode and I'm spending time and money trying to make it go, it's been a month so far and no progress. I could fix my Mini van, Moggy van, Austin 1100, Austin Allegro overnight if they ever had a problem, which was seldom to never! I have a 1971 (so therefore historic) SWB Land Rover I'm seriously considering putting back on the road, it NEVER let me down in over 20 years.
And they call this progress?
The newer car are even worse. Just not designed to last at all you will be lucky to see 10 year out of a brand new car you can buy today. If I was you I'd restore your 4x4 to be a good Daly driver and it will probably still be going in 30 years
Hi Ya
Just got the EGR valve vacuum Sensor delivered
I got the Pierburg one not Chinese just fitted it And done round the block test Seems the Throttle is a LOT Smoother and no “lag “ ,,Have a longer journey tomorrow around 120 miles with 40 miles ish on motorway
So will find out and let you know
Regards
Steve
Pierburg are OEM parts for lots of car.
Iv Even fit them and they had the VW numbers ground off but was half the price
Yeh Murphys Law
Done Bognor Regis to Heathrow and thru South London Computer says 840 Miles on the Full tank
But then it IS a computer
MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
Steve Butler
Great video!! have this task looming 😪 I was debating taking it off and cleaning it......... Not now though!! 100% going to be a one hit job.
Cleaning normally doesn't work. I have a video in the Description of how some of them fail might be worth a look
@@murphyslaw2020 The only reason i was thinking about it was because it hadn't thrown up an error code and it was VCDS logs that pointed me in the direction of the egr, i was told by a Tech at Vw that what i was seeing was classic EGR cooler blockage....... But as you say i was expecting something a little more clean able but i'm not sure i want to do this job multiple times trying it. I admit i'm putting it off a bit at the moment but i have a OEM egr here ready to go at some point. I will go and watch your video. Thanks.
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@@murphyslaw2020 Thanks!! Out of intrest, do you see them coming in with no fault codes?? i just find it strage that i only get symptoms when the car is cold.
@K2edg normally the car will go into limp mode or the light will be on. Down on power or blocking of the dpf etc
Terrible placement for a part that is known to fail.
You said it. Some EGR valve take like 20 minutes to replace
The MK 4 Jetta/Golf is not much easier. It takes about 3 to 4 hours to R&R the EGR cooler on those.
Hi Jetaa 2011 tdi p2457 045e 045f , do you think. Thanks for your help
Hi yes it's most likely the egr. But you should do your own testing etc to make sure
If you need help just ask
@@murphyslaw2020 did you know any good places in Woodland Hills California thanks for your help
@@yossitomer3990 sorry I'm on the other side of the world in Ireland
Thank you for your time
My best quess would be either a slightly blocked DPF or Cat maybe.
Hi, I have a 2009 Passat 2.0 TDI, it is starting with the EGR circuit fault intermittently, some times comes up, sometimes doesn't. It's there anyway to clean it without removing? Thank you
You can try. But they fail in so many ways it normally never works.
Replace with vw part is the best option
I guess I won't be doing it myself then
Not Straightforward there is afew hours in the job
Excellent video, wish i saw this first before doing mine. Saying that i have a 4x4 version and its extremely harder as i have the front transfer box
Yes a job not for the Faint hearted on the 4x4 models
Doing this job the next week on a 1.6tdi CR Octavia 4x4. I will remove the subframe since I am changing flywheel and clutch also. Guess it is easier when subframe is down and do the egr also. Will need to loosen the dpf as well.
@roarhelle hi the sub frame is not in the way on the front wheel drive. It's basically the same job plus abit more when you remove prop and TC etc that's probably a good time to do the egr.
Good luck that's a good few hours of work
Toil , took me about 12 hours over 3 ngts after work on the drive . Absolute mare of a job especially without a pit or ramps. No wonder VW want £2k to replace , i took turbo manifold out and pulled it up and out 😳
I'm feel your pain. I've done 30 odd egr valves on vag cars.
I feel like Quitting my job when I have to do work like this now.
On a side note you saved alot of money
The egr is supposed to function only on a rollerbank.
Fantastic video bro. Thank you so much for showing every bolt! Great guide!!
Hello, My VW caddy jerks when I'm driving, should I also change my Egr... will that fix my problem sir?
Hi have you got a code for the egr?
I have alrady changed egr valves 3 times on my 1.6 tdi. Very often its the technology that goes bad. If you can screw it of and hack the moderboard and put it together agai. The mechanism steel works very well.
Save money and time. Egr is just shit for our cars. My friend did deinstall that on his car and the car consumed 1 liter less fuel.
I have fixed one or two over the years but they just go bad again sooner or later. I would only fit a new oem one for the amount of work it takes to fit one
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Might be interesting or bring back bad memories
i Just purchased a 2011 Audi A3 for a cheap price, but with a faulty EGR, so going to fix it ....Great Vid Well Done and huge thanks for this one.!!..
Glad it helped, hope you get the car sorted
Nice video!!
What car was it ??
I've just bought a Passat B6, 170BH, engine code BMR - with some issues of course 😢
The most annoying - leaking coolant. Got to top up pretty much every day - it's like a glass a day and I'm doing about 50-100 miles a day. There's no obvious sign of the leak on the floor, so...
Could be HG...
Or EGR cooler...
Just wonder where this EGR cooler is on my one? Front or back of the engine??
Some people said this can be by-passed...
Byt seems to be quite complicated job....
Any help would be appreciated :)
Hi there is a few different EGR valve set ups. I'm not sure what one you has it the same engine cover as the one in the video
@@murphyslaw2020 I'll keep googling and watching YT. Thank you 👍
Hi, great vid. My caddy has code p0402, sounds loud and ticky, slight loss of power and a bit of a miss fire under load.
The egr could be Stuck open
@@murphyslaw2020 appreciate the quick reply.
@mikeswoosh2564 no worries
Great video
My glow plug lights are blinking and the car cuts out 1.6tdi
I have code :
P046C00 EGR sensor ‘A’ Circuit range/performance
Any help would be much appreciated
Hi it's most likely your egr the glow light is the engine light as well on this model
There is afew different types of egr one on the front that a easy job. But it's mostly this type on your car as it's a 1.6
If you have any questions I'll try help
Top quality video man. just what I was looking for thanks, explained the process and what's involved excellently
Thanks for the feedback, not a quick job but at least your not going in blind
First of all thats a great job you did and thank you for the video.
I have the same issue with my vw jetta 1.6 tdi (280000 km). First the coil light was poping and I been having a lack of power. I went to a mecanic but its that time of the year….I have to wait for another week until the egr will be replaced.
Do you think I could still drive the car for another week(I drive it 20 km daily)? I’m afraid that I could run in other problems.
I forgot to mention that after 2 days and 50 km the check engine light also appeared.
You should be fine. I've seen cars go for months with the lught on.
The car may go into limp switch the car off then on should bring the car out of limp. Good luck 👍 and happy new year
@@murphyslaw2020Thank you! Happy new year!
i have VW 2009 TDI Tiguan 2.0 , i need to find out the location of engine code ON THE ENGINE to show to the customs' check. I HAVE already the engine number on document CBA..., but we need to see it on the engine. Please guide me how to find it. Many thanks
Hi it's on a sticker on the timing belt upper cover . It may also be on a sticker in the boot of the car. It's also on the user manual books on the first page and/ or service manual
Hope that helps
@@murphyslaw2020 tks a lot. But i need to find the stamped engine number. To make a copy
Hi I'm not sure if it is stamped for the engine code but a engine number should be. I'll pop my head into the next VW with that engine and see can I find it
I started this job on axle stands and gave up! Problem I had getting it back to square 1 was getting the bastard DPF filter back on with the clamp :-(
Yes that can be challenge the small bracket to the side near the timing if you undo the 13mm it makes it easier and maybe someone to help push the dpf
@@murphyslaw2020 Yeah I’m doing it in my own atm, maybe I’ll have to try that, thanks. I had taken all of that off already, put them back loose for this
Hi Ya
I changed the EGR vacuum Sensor for a new Pierburg
I Have done couple of Hundred miles No Lights No hesitation More Power faster Accerelation Smoother Response
Fingers crossed
Hope this might help someone else
Regards
Steve
I hopefully your sorted now
How much was for the OEM egr ? I'm trying to compare our local prices with yours
I can't remember it was around 400 Euro. Iv fit afew after market ones and 2 of them fail in less then year . I only fit OEM now. It's a big job to do so I never want to do it a 2nd time for free on the same car under warranty.
Well done for filming such a difficult job and doing it.
Thanks for the comment. Done afew at this point 👍
@@murphyslaw2020 how many hours labour will this take for a mechanic?
@@huzcer hi it's hard to say but I'd say 4 to 6 hour. If you have done afew, everything goes your way and your really fast maybe around 3 hours.
I normally book a full day for one just in case
@@murphyslaw2020 Cheers. if you get a warning code is it worth trying to use the egr cleaning spray though the turbo air intake before replacement do you think?
You could try it. I never had any success with any egr cleaner on this type of egr. It's normally the electronics that goes wrong but it's a mix bag of problems with this egr, blocked, stuck open, the gears go, the motor/electronics etc etc.
If you have any questions just ask.
You can pull the motor off In 10 min and try test it / move the gears etc
But it's 99 % of the time it's a replacement part
I have 2.0 tdi and it’s feeling sluggish sometimes it has code p2002 any ideas does it need egr cooler or dpf?
Hi that code points to a dpf problem but there maybe a underline fault. If you have a suitable diagnostics I'd clear /fix any codes and try a dpf Regen.
What sort of milage is on the car
At what models you don‘t have to unscrew the subframe ? I saw that some people do for extra space,some people don‘t.
Iv never had to undo the subfame for this type of egr. Iv done about 20 on the vag range.
I can see how you would think you might have to undo it but if you follow the video it will come out. If need more information just ask
Well done. You did well doing that without removing the DPF.
Just Enough room to get the egr out
What’s the name of that first part you removed? Mines missing!
Hi I'm not sure of it's exact name but it's part of the air intake to the air filter housings. Iv seen a few missing over the yours
any other method on getting it out ? i have 4wd and i dont want to disassemble the driveshaft
Hi I've not done a 4wd one. I do recall someone talking about a 4wd one in the Comments.
The drive shaft is very easy to remove on most models. I mostly just undo the 3 bolts on the ball joint, the 6or so bolts on the cv at the box and just let it drop
@@murphyslaw2020 somewhere i saw someone removing air filter box and from the side took it up, real or mith?
@@tstt34 this is the only way to do on this type of egr. I've tried everything to speed it up this is as good as it gets
Man, thats a hell of a job. I just recently had the coil light come on along with the engine management light, took the car to a garage for a diagnostic scan and came back with 40 grams build up (I think in the dpf). Didn't have time to get it fixed so ended up getter the car back then the dpf light came on. Took the car for a drive and done an actve regeneration (driving in 4th gear at 3000 rpm) and the dpf light, coil light and engine management light went off. Got back home from the drive and the coil light came back on. Took the car bacl to the garage for another scan and came up with error code P246E00 (egr temperature sensor) but the emission build up was down at 7 grams when before it waa at 40 grams. I don't know if its the dpf thats causing problems or the egr temperature sensor, it's doing my head in and its stressing me out.
If you have any codes try fix that first
The coil light is the engine light not sure why they have two lights . The egr temp sensor is easy to find out if its gone. That's probably all your problem is.
@@murphyslaw2020 Hey, thanks for getting back to me, I appreciate it. So, turns out the EGT (temperature sensor) is away, I managed to order one and I'm just waiting for someone to come and fit it, I know it's a bit of a nightmare to get to but it needs to be done. There's always something that happens to me this time of year btw. Last year the turbo packed in on the taxi I was renting and because the turbo is built into the engine it was gonna cos the guy £1400 to replace it because its an engine teardown, replace the turbo and build the engine back up. Luckily he managed to source an engine with 65,000 miles on it for around £600 and got it back on the road. That car was amazing, it had 290,000 miles on the clock and still felt so smooth driving.
The egt can be hard to get out sometimes your better off cutting of the top of the sensor and just us a normal socket vs a open end spanner and maybe some heat.
@@murphyslaw2020 Quick update: the mobile mechanic came over and changed the EGT sensor but didn't have a code reader to reset the fault codes. Luckily a friend of mine managed to reset the codes but now the scan shows that the dpf is blocked. The EGT sensor code is away but there's some other codes. I'm gonna take the car to the garage tomorrow and see what happens, its really stressing me out, something always happens at this time of year..
You could do a force regeneration of the dpf. If you have a scan let's you or clean it in the car its normally easy on the vw just put the cleaner down the pressure sensor pipe that goes to the top of the dpf . You can get cleaners that are in spary can for like 30
Or make sure you have like 1/2 tank of fuel and try make the car regen its self by going for a long drive 20 min or more you might still need a scanner to reset it
After you get it clean you should try to tell the car you put a new dpf in but make sure its fully cleaned
I good scan tool can do all the above
Let us know how you get on.
The next time I'm doing a dpf clean I'll try video it.
Local garage just quoted me £3.5k to replace this.
That's just mad
The VW parts are around 350 to 500 I can't recall 💯 and at about 6 to 8 hours at 100 an hour . One of the vw TEC i talked to said he can do them in about 3 hours because he has done so many
Are U taking the whole engine out or what
Feels like it
that looks difficult, do you think this is doable without a car lift?
You could do it on the ground just jack the car up nice and safe. It won't be easy but doable hope that helps
@@murphyslaw2020 yes that helps, thanks, much appreciated
Thank you for this! Very useful!
I'm glad to have helped
Does it trigger the code 01027?
Yes 👍 they fail so many ways
Have a look at the pinned video or in the description to see the Electronic part that dies
how do you know is a bad faulty egr valve on the car>?what are the simptoms/error codes
The car can go in limp mode. The dpf can get blocked, turbo fail. Loss of power etc There is lots of codes that relate to it.
If you look at my short videos on my channel you can see how some of the egr block up.
If you have codes post them up and I can give an option on them
@@murphyslaw2020 this was the code q month ago
p0401 exhaust gas recirculation flow insufficient
Then i change the egr valve located front of the engine
But still car don t kick of like supose to be
Now drive already 200 miles code didn t came back
What are the most bad symptoms for this egr valve?what i obserce recently the coolant level increase in the coolant tank when the engine is warm but no leak at all or presure in the coolant tank
Thanks
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Hi if your car has the egr on the front next to the throttle body. The cooler may be seized it's at the back of the engine next to the dpf . You can put your hand up and operate the value like in the video above there might be a small heat cover on it that may have to take off
Hi. on my Skoda 1.6 tdi i have the error code P0407 exhaust gas recirculation sensor B circuit low. what can be the cause of that? i will have to change the EGR or it can be something ales? plus the engine goes in limp mode. any ideas . thank you
Yes this is sign of the egr failing. It might be worth seeing if the car as any recalls out standing on it. They were covering the egr after the update
Its a sensor fault
Hi it is a sensor fault but the sensor is part of the egr and can't be got on its own plus the sensor normally fails
Due to the egr valve sticking or stuck.
It's sad but the car more then likely needs a new VW egr valve. I wouldnt try any other brands, OEM only
After I will manage to find and fix the problem I’ll come back and say what was wrong 😢but I’m sure it will be expensive 280€ for a good egr
I cancel the dpf and egr.in my case it was 250€ with remapping and the car is like new.
Heya! Thank you so much for the great video. Do you have any hot tips on removing the top right screw from the assembly? Can't for the life of me get to it. I tried everything except taking out the dpf. :/
Hi could tell me at what time in the video I talk about the bolt your stuck on
@@murphyslaw2020 holding bracket top right. You point at it 7:33 😵 I have spent so long on it already driving me nuts. You have to stab in the dark for it so far as I can see.
@@murphyslaw2020 also 8:12 "extremely difficult to get out" 😆
Yeah it's a tough one . I used a 30torx 1/4 socket and slim head long ratchet. Try getting in from the wheel side. Make sure the dpf is free from the turbo and it's mounts so you can push it to the back of the car.
you will get it . The snap on ratchets I have is fcf72 just google it and it will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. But I wouldn't recommend buying it just maybe look for a cheaper one unless your a full time TEC
@@jameswhineray5329 me saying its extremely difficult= saying f**k this x100 and starting to look for a new job, then you get it loose and you tell yourself it wasn't that bad
Hi, where is the garage Please?
Hi I'm not taking new work at the moment sorry
My cars feeling sluggish but no codes. What do you think it can be. 1.6 tdi
There is too many things it could be.its very hard to say with out seeing the car and running some tests. Boost leaks, turbo actuator. Egr. Dpf blocking. A dead heat sensor etc.
Have you any more information
@@murphyslaw2020 my mechanic said the exact thing you just said. I think there was a code on it before which my mate reset not sure it said something about misfire but that was weeks ago. It hasnt appeared again. I'm not sure what to do. Its driving abit sluggish but still driving. Im not sure what i should do next tbh
@@murphyslaw2020 it started off a few weeks ago when it was struggling to accelarate and revs wouldnt go up. After i refuelled the car it went arite. Drove fine for a week then when fuel got slighlty lower it started doing it again. I dont think it was anything to do with fuel. It just seems heavier and sluggish to drive with no codes atm
@@fatehranks maybe a dpf blocking. The car may have done a regeneration of the dpf when you fill it .will only do it if the fuel level is high enough.
@@murphyslaw2020 i dont understand mate. What shall i do. I always drive on motorway anyway. Its not like i drive local much
Great video, thanks for the help!
Glad it helped
Best video.
holy fuck that is a small job when its not 4wd
I never did a 4wd one. Very rare to see anything like that we're I live.
@@murphyslaw2020 u have to drop the subframe, exhaust, right driveshaft and the halfshaft in the transfer case to remove the turbo oil drain.
since you need to take it out where the exhaust is.
Because the transfer case and the propshaft is in the way.
unplug diesel heater water hose.
@@shirunai by the sounds of it I hope I never have to do one
My 2011 A4 has the EGR valve on other side of engine...do you have a video of that setup ?
Is it the one on the intake manifold? If so your lucky there an easy fix the next one I get in I'll try get a video of it.
You can fit just the egr valve in about half an hour if I recall if it's the 2.0 TDI
@@murphyslaw2020 Hi there...thanks for prompt reply...in my A4 (B8) the ERG valve is on the driver's side of engine. The intake manifold is on the opposite side. Will try and post a photo.
Hi if I recall on the 2.0 TDI looking into the engine bay from the front.
The egr cooler is on the left side but the valve is on the right it's behind the throttle shut off valve/ throttle body.
It bolts on to the plastic intake manifold.
If you can get a picture that would be great
@@murphyslaw2020
In my case the EGR valve and cooler are connected in one unit. Having difficulties loading up an image but will try again.
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No way in hell anyone is doing this without a hoist.
The hoist makes it easier for sure
No joke- After doing nearly every job imaginable on a number of cars without a lift... this was the job that finally pushed me over the edge and made me go out and buy a lift. I got under the car while on jack stands, remembered the other crap i've pulled on this tdi (a lot, including removing the trans, timing belt, CP3 HPFP, etc etc etc), and said "ya know what, I'm old enough and have wrenched for long enough to not go through this again".
So I bought a used lift, restored it, got it aligned and adjusted yesterday, and will get this job done tomorrow.
And I'm selling the car the next week, because out of every car I've ever owned, this has required the most maintenance, bar none. The most frustrating part being I always stayed ahead on maintenance and did my best to get everything in the area "while im in there".
I enjoyed it when it was running, but never again.
@@RocanMotor 100%, I am going to sell mine once it is all fixed up.
You get to a point where I'll only use the lift and I wouldn't even dream of doing it on the ground. Its just me and the boss. He doesn't work in much in the workshop but we have 4 lifts.
Sorry to hear about all the drama with the car. We get cars traded in all the time we're people just don't want to fix the problems and just had enough, so just buy a new car
@@murphyslaw2020 I'm about halfway through the job and I'm extremely grateful for the lift already. Honestly, I wasn't much of a VW fan going into it, but always had a soft spot for tdis. I wouldn't mind trying out an earlier PD car, but I don't want to wrench on this one again. I had bought it off a close friend a few years back, and did a fair bit to it- all the 100k repairs and then some, stage 2 tune, dsg tune, etc. Perhaps if it was a manual I'd like it a bit more. However, my friend comes back from living abroad next week and I told him "hey, you can have it back" and he agreed, so my close friend gets back the car he loves but with another 100k of maintenance complete and I get to funnel my money into something else :)
One crap job to do ask me how l know!!!!!
Iv done about 15 or more. Yes you are 100% right.
@@murphyslaw2020 Well respect to you sir,however imagine doing jod in your home garage with car on axle stands in February !!!!!
Not a job I like to do on the ground in the cold.
Them days are well over for me. Id use the car lift now to put on a set of wiper blades if I thought it would be easier.
Glad you got sorted
@@murphyslaw2020 Yes sorted and thank you for sharing your knowledge and invaluable experience.All who view can benefit most appreciated
thank you show match
No problem
Ive heard horror stories from this vw 1.6 tdi common rail engine from 2009 ? Imagine what that will cost you from a garage for a simple egr swap? Be warned stick to older 1.9 pd engine?
Yes they do have lots of problem's the 2.0 TDI is a better option in my mind less problems and basically the same engine
Yes im gutted? im after seat altea xl with both them engines plus how hard is it to get a reliable autobox nowadays? Dsg is ok till goes wrong? Or the ford powershift that is horrendous? With your skills if you could fix powershift gearboxes for less than a grand? Ud be a millionaire in no time lol?
The power shift is a nightmare. Even the local gearbox place won't work on them or if they do no warranty. We just stopped taking them in for sale or trade INS.
@@murphyslaw2020 hi mate looking at 2.0 tdi altea xl dsg box 2013 but owner says slight whistle sometimes on startup but fine when warm any ideas?
@@rockybalboap7763 hi it could be anything it would be very hard to say with out looking at the car. I'd probably get it checked before you go any further. Unless you were getting a extremely good deal
Map it out and do dpf regeneration manually on motorway 😁
To many unknowns for most people. Not saying it wouldn't work just changing the software can be unset future repairs etc.
The valve can stick open and mapping it out on its own won't work you will have to blank it off.
The Regen should work normally even if the egr is mapped out but the egr helps achieve higher temps on regeneration of the dpf
There is pros and cons to every job like this. The cost is probably much cheaper and quicker in most cases
@@murphyslaw2020 very true I had limp mode and egr code so had it mapped out don't think they blanked it off runs fine no loss of power but last week had dpf light on so motorway to clear it just was cheaper than a egr plus 4 hrs labour
If you want to blank it off it's easy plus you can get kits on ebay I'd only use stainless steel kits. Iv seen some of the mild steel and aluminium one fail and bits of the blanking plate go into the engine.
The egr is a poor design iv done to many at this stage
It's mad to think the Audi A4 has the same engine but the egr is about 100 and half an hour to fit.
The newer cars are getting worse and even more problems
@@murphyslaw2020 yes this is a bad one to get to..where does the blanking plate fit on this one
@@glyncooper1491 5:10 sec in the video I point to were the blanking plate can go
Hey Murphy, great video I have got 2012 jetta 2.0 tdi
Recently started to get the flashing glow plug light when the car warms up a little bit,
Scanned it with a tinny scanner and got p0403
Any ideas mate ?
Hey sounds like you have an egr problem. clear the codes and see what comes back. The glow plug light is just the engine light it means the engine has a fault code
It's easier to buy a new car than to remove all that stuff. Hard to find a mechanic able to put back absolute everything (bolts, nuts, washers etc)
Alot of people just trade in there car when they get problem's like this.
This video had no over the shoulder bolts 😂
You will just end up with a new car with problems 10x more expensive to fix
No he should have removed the right driveshaft and flange, there is no washers just gaskets and the bolts arent that Hard to reach with proper tools
Hi the drive shaft is not really in the way that much. Iv done about 10 to 15 EGR valve of this type and never removed the shaft, I can see why you would think it would help but it just adds more work and time to the job for very little pay back
Madness
I'm having issues on my scirocco 2.0 tdi, I suspect EGR related. It'll randomly jump, almost a stalling sensation, when accelerating, but doesn't matter if i'm doing 70 or 15mph, the feeling is the same, normally straight after the engine has had time to warm up anyway. I'm not sure if i'm fortunate or not to not have any fault codes on the dash, but makes it a nightmare figuring out what is wrong with it. Any ideas anyone??
Have you had the car scanned for fault codes ? Sounds like you maybe going into limp for a short time. The turbo actuator could be making it over boost
There is setting you can check for actuator on the live data or even maybe using a multimeter. Id test it with a vacuum tester. I'd had one that was working but not as intended. You will need to adjust it on the car I had to cut up an old 10mm spanner to adjust it
@@murphyslaw2020 I haven't, but that was next on my list to do. I know on the 2014 models like mine the EGRs are known to electronically fail, so I'm hoping its not that aha!
Even buy a cheap odb tool on eBay or the likes and pop up the codes
Update - so it turns out my EGR, DPF and turbo are all fine. There was a burst DPF pressure pipe however, although fixed that and that wasn't the problem. No error codes on OBD either. Throttle, fuel injectors, and boost pressure reading fine, the OBD didn't even detect anything wrong when driving it and the "jump" occurred. Garage reckoned its probably something electrical, loose wiring etc, maybe even software related. Unfortunately it has to go into VW for diagnostic - not looking forward to that bill!
I'm also thinking maybe a dodgy/dirty MAF sensor, as that has never been cleaned or replaced, so if a firmware update can't solve it, that's next.
Great filming mate! Thanks!
Nice one and No Swearing LOL
The first one I did was a nightmare 😂 there was more then swearing going on
@@murphyslaw2020
I can well believe that Good on ya Matey
What was the symptoms of bad egr and what s the engine 2.0 ?,
I just have a issue atm is no boost also no fsulty code mechanic told me coud me blocked egr cooler
Could be the turbo actuator
Hi Sorry not back earlier
Code was P 0403 EGR Flow Circuit Malfunction
I cleared it and within 3 miles it was back on and back in limp mode
It’s a 1.6 TDi VW 2012 135K miles Passat B7 CAYC engine It’s NOT been VW Dealer Doctored
My Average MPG Around town and an occasional motorway is Around 45 in town Motorway 60+
I 1st used WYNNS EGR Valve Cleaner which worked for 9 months BUT I’m mostly in traffic
2nd I’ve just put in WYNNS Diesel Particulate Filter Cleaner , Which I’m trying out Before the expense of a New EGR valve
I’ve also ordered a Pierburg EGR Vacuum Sensor valve
Fingers Crossed
I’ll let you know how I get on
Regards
Steve
Great video, but still kind of would have liked to have heard and seen all the grunts, groans, and tools being used removing everything ...LOL. With that said, OMG all that for a lousy EGR.
The video would've just been hours of bad Language and me talking to myself about Quitting the job lol
What sort of symptoms do you get with these engines for a egr fault?
Hi it can affect the car in many ways.
The car may go into limp mode.
It could block the dpf
Full the intake system whit soot
Block up pipes
Kill the turbo etc etc etc
Great video, thanks! I have a 2019 Golf 7, 1.6 TDI. Car accelerates great I think but I have a error P040100 insufficient EGR flow and DPF regeneration occurs often. What should I do, clean DPF, SCR and EGR or buy a new EGR. Removing it is to complicated as you said, so I wouldn't like to do the job twice... Thank you!
Hi is it the same engine/ EGR as in the video. Your car maybe the gen2 tdi 1.6
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This is the newer version of the 1.6
The older one has the oil filter on the top of the engine and the newer version as it under the car
@@murphyslaw2020 It's the new type with the intercooler in front. CLB 85 KW
Hi I'd try cleaning the EGR valve if I recall correctly it's on the front. I have a car in the work at the moment with a similar engine I'll have a look tomorrow.
The EGR cooler gets blocked on this model it's on the back of the engine a big round part that bolt's on to the dpf
@@murphyslaw2020 please, let me know when you find out. It's the same like in the video you posted in the comment above.
I'm going crazy, the car was just fine, and after the timing belt and water pump change yesterday it went crazy and now I have check engine light because of error P040100 (insufficient EGR flow), P199E00 (cylinder head coolant valve open circuit) and B15EC14 (front parking sensors and park pilot not working).
I don't know how all these errors appeared after timing belt change. Maybe they've damaged some harness during the job...