Tried & True Design That Needs a Modern Comeback
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- THE LEVERLETTO BY BILL DESHIVS, IS A SOLID TRIED AND TRUE DESIGN THAT I THINK NEEDS TO COMEBACK, THIS IS A DESIGN THAT WORKS AND COULD POSSIBLY BE GREAT AGAIN.
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I DID FIND SOME LEVERLETTOS FOR SALE JUST LIKE THIS ONE, YOU DO HAVE TO SEARCH AROUND BUT THERES A SITE SELLING THEM FOR AROUND 22$ THANK YOU FOR WATCHING
I saw DHGate ( a Chinese site had a style that was similar, but they didn't look like they were auto's. I tried reaching out to 2 -bones Jones yo see where he got his but no luck yet..
What's the site?
Seriously inquiring minds want to know
What is the site?
C'mon man
@@kid-salami6134 www.icaip99vip.top/ProductDetail.aspx?iid=409804745&pr=43.88
Love this, not many channels talking about classic stillettos. They just work!
What a great design, I don't have to tear up my thumbnail.
I've got a Mikov Predator that uses a similar spring and almost identical lever mechanism as the higher end Leverlettos. The nice thing about it is that you can pop the springs out using just about any piece of thin metal, and all of a sudden it's flipper. Great for traveling where autos aren't legal.
Anyway, never saw this one before, kind of want one now. I love being able to see the mechanics of the lock. Some people would want to hide that, but I like it just the way it is. A quick search didn't turn up anything, so now I'm going to have to go on a mission to find one...
I learned how to sharpen thanks to you MR. Neeves and now I have a skill for the rest of my life. Thank you sir from the bottom of my heart. Happy new year to you and yours.
Glad to help
Me as well. Funny how much I value it. Neighbors ran out of dull knives. Great text. Cheers
*_I want one!_* _I would gladly go in on a new modern design along with you, and help back the expenses to get it done!_
Just buy one on the internet
Interesting design and the release lever could be put inside of the scale with a slot and tab like a clutch lock. I'm sure the button could also be moved to a better location too. Kind of surprising that someone hasn't riffed on the design already, because it is a good one. With that spring you wouldn't have to use a stiletto style blade either, you could use about anything. Pretty cool.
I love that knife. Ever since the first time ya showed it. I love when ya dial it down and go for pure love of the tool sometimes. Very interesting ta me. And I thank ya for it. Keep Reaching. Cheers Bud
Please design one yourself and I'll commit to purchase it
It would be phenomenal 😉
Cost to much
$ 22.00 ???? Is to much??
@@donaldmilinkovich4969 too much to design, prototype, and build, lol.
Just buy one on the internet
MC mentioned the same thing. A premium Stilleto!
Most EPIC COLLABORATION EVER!!!!
MC NEEVES Titanium/Zircuti with S90V or Magnacut! HANDLE THAT 😮😮😮
I just wish protech would bring back the leaf spring or "bar spring" button opening autos. They never break really and the closing is like fall shut to the halfway spot . So it feels kind of premium ? Been saying that for years.
There are so many good old designs that need an update. I'm looking at you "swing guard".
I think it's pretty damn cool. I wished someone would build that knife again. I've never seen one before. Thanks for sharing brother 🤙
I've seen these before but never seen the action. Just pics. Thanks Jared
I have one of these. You are correct that it is 440C. I actually really love this knife. I have another more traditional stiletto also from AKC. Very good knife for the price point.
Would definatly be cool to see an updated modernized version of this knife. Change up the Lever to something that doesn't stick out so much and maybe a different scale design with some premium materials. Keep the full hollow but say S90V on the blade can definatly see it being a winner. Or do it budget style with micarta or G10 and 14C28N with the same changes mentioned. Lots of old designs that could be modernized. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
Yup!
i absolutley loved mine that i got from pvk a while back. just needed a pocket clip
100% agree on the need for a clip. As it stands, i currently carry mine in a leather pocket slip that also holds a pen & flashlight. Just want it in the pocket sometimes if for nothing other than a conversation peice.
I was actually looking at one of these a few weeks ago and thought about getting because i liked the mechanism. Id love to see one with micarta or CF handle and an elmax, magnacut, 3V, 4V or 154cm blade. I'd definitely buy one.
Cool knife man, i used to have one just like that lol. Cool to see you enjoy it so much. I had to get another one myself.
Thought about this knife before but haven’t seen it up close like this. Searching.
Make one with 14c28n, pocket clip, and a magnetic 1/4 bit driver, I’d buy 5.
I've seen really cheap versions of that spring break however a four dollar spool of the right width music wire from Amazon cut to length bent and heated to red hot on your stovetop and quenched in Veg oil makes a perfect replacement
Oh wow. Yeah that is a super cool design. I'd buy a premium one. Good vid
It looks like the Walther SOK 2. Probably from the same factory.
As I wrote in another comment here, these are fake Chinese knives. They're not made by AKC (Just fyi, AKC is the most faked brand on dozens of Chinese knives) and they're not DeShivs or the Leverletto series either (genuine Leverlettos are exclusively the Italian-style leverlock stilettos like the ones he shows partway through the video here. If you ever see the Leverletto name on any knife other than a leverlock stiletto, it's a fake). Anyway If this knife has an actual official name I don't know what it is; I've seen them branded as AKC, Colt, Leverletto, DeShivs, Benchmade, Gerber, Buck, S&W, Browning, Walther and several other brands and combinations thereof... Just last month I saw a Chinese seller with some Colt branded ones for $28 each on ebay. If you want to buy one I'd try there, search something like Colt button knife and set shipping location to China. Automatics are technically banned on ebay but you can find them if you know how to search...
Unfortunately they're illegal where I live, the Dark Ages AKA the UK. 😟
Its funny MC made a video about this same idea not too long ago. Like a classic italian stiletto made with premium materials.
I would buy one immediately. I've been trying to find a Stiletto with premium materials for a long time
Haha , yeah man . The old Italians all had the stiletto design Leverletto s . I inherited one and they’re pretty sweet for a user/collector piece . Real thin blade , no rust , good sound . I think they’re like $80-100 and people have to watch out for the fakes so use the darn link 😊 and get a good one.
My thoughts?
Ditch the lever. IF, and only if, some extended testing confirms it works IRL, alter the... knife-open lockspring to have a 'flag' that bends down to the same position as the lever. The movement is opposite and less comfortable, but not really awkward IMO. It is just as, if not more, intuitive as before; furthermore, it could more easily be made ambidextrous.
The benefit is you have removed 1 or more parts, and taken a lot of complexity out. Downside is the activation force is higher, but you can move flag further forward and/or move the locking lug further back to balance that. Or keep the lever and change it from a bell crank to a simple cam. It might be more complex, but you have more design options and it's easier to make ambidextrous. Think modern pistol take down lever, but instead of a half-moon shape, it's an eccentric cylinder (style of camshaft).
I would also put a second locking lug on the sharp side of the blade to lock it closed. It would take almost zero extra effort to make, although my instincts say it wouldn't be quite as good as having a separate closed-knife lock. I can't explain why.
I wouldn't use a titanium spring at first. I'm no metallurgist, but while almost anything made from steel can be substituted with titanium, titanium is much fussier. Sure, it has a steel-like fatigue limit and most of it's strength, but it's less widely known, less understood... just a lot of tiny risk factors. Too much risk for what is an almost a new-to-market product. Save the titanium spring for the 2nd model, designer series, special edition, etc..
I would also memorize some of the material science technical jargon for the specification terms. You're starting to get far enough into the weeds where the definitions of such terms matter. And where taking a whole minute to explain what you're referring to will eat up a meaningful amount of screen time.
There is no cooler sound that an 11inch Italian swing guard opening.
That would be pretty cool
I bought this same knife a few years ago. I almost forgot I owned it had I not seen this video. Now I’ve got to dig it out and give it some pocket time. Thank you!🔪🖤🗡
its mechanically an itallian styled stiletto, the lever thing has just replaced the swinging bolster on an itallian stiletto ie, beltrame or akc
I want to buy one of these and make some brass scales for it. Luckily it's cheap so not that bad of a decision if I impulse buy it
I love a really good back seat, driver 👌
Great channel. Been in automatic knives for years.
What was the cost of this loverletto
I have had two autos where the deployment leaf spring broke. Granted, they were cheap autos but leaf spring breakage can be an issue.
It reminds me of the Kershaw hotwire that I think was an exclusive at Walmart and costed about nine dollars. Almost the same shape and definitely the same cheap plastic. But I can see how this would be great if it was done by someone like Civivi.
Id like to see more designs from Bill the Shiv 😊
That unlock switch looks like it would suck in the hand. A modern version would be wicked 🤘
no it winds up falling in a spot that you hardly touch kinda like a button lock in a way
@@NeevesKnives very cool
I got my hands on one time ago. I would say in less than 300 times opening it was broken. It's cheap crap mechanism and the 66% more cheaper Haller Stiletto will do a much more trusted job.
This is exactly the Walter Spring MK2
obviously anything can be made out of very cheap, cheap or good materials, im guessing your spring had a bad heat treatment or was defected from factory
I've got an old colt one like this. It's around 20yr old
Now we see it. Your fingers don't have bones. Obviously, it's spring steel. In a way I could see Eafengrow doing your new dream knife. They don't seem to be particularly hung up on coloring inside the lines. And remember to memory your fingers. ✨😸
For God sake we can't hardly get a designer or company to allow us proper jimping and or sharpening choils and plunge grinds and here ya go thinking of throwing this project at them..would bye a few if done right..best of luck if you pich the idea to an OEM..I wouldn't hold my breath..! Love ya bro.
eeeeeh that's actually a chinese/aliexpress/dhgate/wish knife and not at all anything by "bill deshivs" lol and it's not made by AKC, and it's not from italy
I know I bought it like.. 2 years ago.
Ok thank you for the information, either way its a cool design to bad its a knockoff
First time seeing this. Now I just HAVE to track one down. As mentioned in another comment here. The design is awesome. I could easily see a number of blade shapes and designs being used with a similar deployment mechanism. Imagine something like a COLD STEEL XL Espada or similar with this type of deployment….
As I wrote in another comment here, these are fake Chinese knives. They're not made by AKC (Just fyi, AKC is the most faked brand on dozens of Chinese knives) and they're not DeShivs or the Leverletto series either (genuine Leverlettos are exclusively the Italian-style leverlock stilettos like the ones he shows partway through the video here. If you ever see the Leverletto name on any style of knife other than a traditional Italian stiletto with leverlock, it's a fake). Anyway If this knife has an actual official name I don't know what it is; I've seen these branded as AKC, Colt, Leverletto, DeShivs, Benchmade, Gerber, Buck, S&W, Browning and various combinations thereof... Just last month I saw a Chinese seller with some Colt branded ones for $28 each on ebay. If you want to buy one I'd try there, search something like Colt button knife and set shipping location to China. Automatics are technically banned on ebay but you can find them if you know how to search...
I’ve wanted a Italian Stiletto that’s well made since I was a kid
@neevesknives, wasn't it you who said Auto knives today aren't justified any more cause flipping nachanism are so good today?
Anyway, I got almost exact the same knife from walther. Maybe little different in scales, mechanism identically. It's called walther sok 2 and about 30 bucks.
Greetings
👍🏼I like it. Never seen it.
When was that knife released?
im not sure
Have Metonboss design/make the scales and use Magnacut.
Not really my jam. But if it was updated I might consider it depending on if the looks changed at all. I don't like the exposed lever or the overall shape of the handle. Looks too much like a pen or something.
Why mess with a good thing. To me this would be a work tool, handy to put in a pocket or toolbox or tackle box. Used as a utility knife it's perfect. The only thing I would change would be better steel, at the end of the day that's what's important. Nice knife. Cheers.
Can you put a link in for a site which has this model?
I think Neeves needs to start designing and patenting designs. I can't think of anyone else that I'd trust with design better than him
I'm working on it now 👊
I want one!
A lot of the old Italian switchblades use this mechanism
Ohh! plz do a Rizzuto elStiletto in better material and that sweet sving guard. Ohh one more thing, maybe a replaceble spring.
I like it!
I want to see how a bolster lock works.
Microtech makes one its nice
Confused. It looks like it already had a sharpening choil? Is that not what the little notch is? I’m kinda new to a lot of this.
Just bigger.
@@ClintCoon1976 thank you!
I have not had good luck with those mechanisms....
I want it!
Reate would do this 👍
Make a bland replacement and say scales ...be huge start
Switchblades: if they're legal in your state, go for it.
That is a nice blade. It would be illegal in my neck of the woods.
Got an old one that has brass bolsters and ebony scales. Has a small brass thumb actuator that releases the blade near the bolster. Excellent little edc knife. For the sharpening choil I would do something like what protech did with the godfather or better even larger if possible.
Do a collab with CRKT or a similar company.
It's been a long time since I've seen one of these. They were stupid illegal back then.
Good video, but please practice holding things steady. It is annoying to follow with constant jerking, moving, and focus adjustments
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Very cool--may be a bit tiny for the day-to-day,
not that its bad that way. Great review J, thanks. I would go up to $150 for a knife that
style with slightly better handle material.
👍🏻
The thing about that knife is that it is using the AKC branding and AKC's leverletto style name but it was never made by AKC a real leverletto looks nothing like that. AKC is an Italian brand.
As I wrote in another comment here, these are fake Chinese knives. They're not made by AKC (Just fyi, AKC is the most faked brand on dozens of Chinese knives) and they're not DeShivs or the Leverletto series either (genuine Leverlettos are exclusively the Italian-style leverlock stilettos like the ones he shows partway through the video here. If you ever see the Leverletto name on any knife other than a leverlock stiletto, it's a fake). Anyway If this knife has an actual official name I don't know what it is; I've seen them branded as AKC, Colt, Leverletto, DeShivs, Benchmade, Gerber, Buck, S&W, Browning, Walther and several other brands and combinations thereof... Just last month I saw a Chinese seller with some Colt branded ones for $28 each on ebay. If you want to buy one I'd try there, search something like Colt button knife and set shipping location to China. Automatics are technically banned on ebay but you can find them if you know how to search...
It’s made out of cheap materials cuz it’s a damn shiv 😂
I have the other type 😃
That is a switchblade. Illegal in NY State as it has a sprung blade.
Yeah, we all know Karen. I carry MULTIPLE "switchblades" daily in upstate New York, and the only problem is the LEO'S up here keep asking where I get my good quality blades.
@@kentmarsh6442That's cool. Like my police officer friend in Tonawanda told me, "If you do get in a fight with a legal knife, you only get charged with assault and not assault and possetion of an illegal weapon". It's a lifestyle choice one felony or two lol.
I carry a Cold Steel Tri-Lite 4" everyday, a deadly, fast opening fighting knife, which is perfectly legal here.
FYI *this is a Chinese "fake" knife. It is not made by AKC, and certainly not part of DeShivs' Leverletto series either.* Leverlettos are invented by Bill DeShivs and sold by him; that classic stiletto style with lever lock are the _only_ knives legitimately branded Leverletto (eg; Leverlock + Stiletto -- see where the brandname comes from?). This knife is NOT a Leverletto. *AKC is the No.1 most faked brand name on Chinese switchblades of all styles, and Bill DeShivs/Leverletto is the No.2 most faked brand. The Chinese put those names on any and every style of automatic knife, sometimes just one sometimes all three brands, even on knives where it makes no sense like this,* eg; Leverletto name on a knife that neither looks nor operates anything like a genuine Leverletto. I've also seen this specific knife branded for Colt, S&W, Buck, Gerber, Browning, and several other random gun and knife brands -- same exact design, same black handle and same blade finish, the Chinese factory just changes what brands printed on it.
You can find these on eBay right now for $20 branded as "Colt" knives. All of them ship direct from China which should be a hint too... Now I'm not saying these are total junk necessarily, China has come along way in knifemaking and they may well be decent knives if the blades are properly heat treated (many Chinese knives aren't). But point being *just be aware you're buying a Chinese knife here, regardless of how cool it is.* And it's a appears to be an original Chinese design at that, because again neither AKC nor DeShivs make a knife like this.
Needs a pocket clip
The first knife, I found out "the name" of the maker ! No prices, ? Why? I guess all these knife "retailers" gotta add on THEIR. "%" !! That's why I'll never go into any business , I don't want to get rich off of others sweat and hard work , then ripping off the one group of people who ANY retailer needs , the CONSUMER!!!!
That's also why knives are so expensive!!
The maker ( rightly so) works hard and long and most pricey fairly . But then you add everyone , every single person who touches the product adds THEIR % !
And the knives get more and more expensive!!
But it would be nice if all these knife channel's could put in even just a ball park price !! WE don't all wipe our asses with dollar bills !! NOT YET ANYWAY !
I'm sure it doesn't have a pocket clip because itll definitely open in youe pocket
It looks like it's got a blade lock
@@kentmarsh6442That would concern me, as well. I carry an auto OTF, and the pressure required to deploy makes it very safe. This design doesn't seem conducive to safe carry on a clip
it has a lock
@@NeevesKnives Understood. But that's just one more thing to mess with.
@@chris.eskimo its really not likely to open up the button has tension, but eh lock is just a safety measure for those that are worried
There’s a switchblade designer named Bill DeShivs?
This sounds like a joke, but I so want it to be true.
It's true. Bill DeShivs invented the famous Leverletto knife. Yes it's his real name too. However as I wrote in another comment here, the knife in this video is a fake from China. They're not made by AKC (AKC is the most faked brand on hundreds of random Chinese knives) and they're not DeShivs or the Leverletto series either (genuine Leverlettos are exclusively the Italian-style leverlock stilettos like the ones he shows partway through the video here. If you ever see the Leverletto name on any knife other than a classic Italian stiletto with a leverlock, then it's a fake). Anyway If this knife has an actual official name I don't know what it is; I've seen them branded as AKC, Colt, Leverletto, DeShivs, Benchmade, Gerber, Buck, S&W, Browning, Walther and several other brands and combinations thereof... Just last month I saw a Chinese seller with some Colt branded ones for $28 each on ebay. If you want to buy one I'd try there, search something like Colt button knife and set shipping location to China. Automatics are technically banned on ebay but you can find them if you know how to search... Just be aware you're getting a Chinese knife that's priced at only ~$25 for good reason.
Just ordered this ..19$ on line ..love it
Where did you find this gem?
Where di you find It?
di=did
i did find some as well Pita, you have to really search but theres a site selling them for like 22$ if you buy only one,
Only buy a real one, if you can find one from Italy
thats not a leverletto
That's the name that's on it
How many times are you going to deploy the blade , your li,etc a little kid come on .
these are wish knives, can get them for $3
can't even find them on AKC's website
Wish yes, $3 no. More like $16
@@WhuDhat You won't find them on AKC's site because it's a fake from China, or rather a Chinese design with a fake AKC brand on it since AKC doesn't make anything that looks like this. See my other comment here.
Finally unfollowing this channel.