I've ridden all sorts of ADV bikes & my current bike is a 1200GS which I love. I am a motorcycle instructor & students had been asking me about the 450MT, so I took one for a test ride, I liked it so much I surprised myself by buying one, the BMW is also staying btw 😊😊
Test rode this at a CFMoto even this Sunday. First time I've ever been on an Adventure bike. At 170cm I was able to get my feet down both sides. Not flat, but enough to be confident to take it for a spin. No off roading, but the bike felt pretty nice. I didn't really feel the weight. And I thought the throttle response was a little smoother than the 800. I don't know about modes and such. There was a bunch of CFMoto bikes to test ride freely and I tried them all. I'm not about to go buy an ADV bike anytime soon, but that test ride gave me a positive impression of the type of bike, and CFMoto's model specifically.
Daughter with mom and dad all riding big bikes. Now that is a super cool family 😎😎😎. Glad you guys have fun, the CFmoto or NX500 would be the choice if the upcoming KLE500 is too tall or still with tube wheel.
I am currently riding a cfmoto 300sr on my learners permit. They are a nice bike to ride at a cheaper price. Comfortable to ride for longer rides and not sore at the end. Plenty of power. Mine is slightly heavier than other competitors. But other than that I am happy with cfmoto.
Loving my 450MT, I've had it out on Enduro loops in the bush, some single track around the Sunny Coast. It's definitely a capable bike, even on the factory tyres with a bit of air out 👌 Cheers, David
Awesome bike indeed, It wouldn't surprise me if you guys get at least one of these. I loved doing a test ride on the 450, had a grin on my face the whole way!! I reckon you'll love it off road too!
I have the 450MT and love it. I had to lower seat for y short legs but it's an awesome 1st adventure bike. Tyres are good on the road and on hard packed dirt/gravel but bad in muddy conditions and soft sand I believe. You wont regret buying one
Cheers!! 🍻 Nice to get a different POV. The 450MT is definitely great value for money. I have been resisting the urge to swap my Rally for one but just can’t get past the weight. Sure when riding it’s not so noticeable but drop it a few times off road and you’ll then notice its extra kgs. So I modded my Rally with SSS 301cc kit including stage 3 ECU. Whacked on a lighter free flowing exhaust and high flow air filter plus suspension upgrade. Now it’s got that extra mid to high range punch while still being light and nimble. Problem solved 😎
Forget about the weight, go ride one and feel it for yourself, I've owned around 40 bikes, NEVER have I ever made a decision on a bike before riding one.....
Such a pleasure to see moto family! Wish you a lot of great roads together! As for 450MT, it's a great choice. Very friendly, predictable and well capable off and on road bike. I've done already 9000km on that bike and it's great! For your Mom and Dad might be usefull to get a taller seat and handlebar risers. I have tham and it changed seating and standing position to more comfortable one. Also the taller seat is unbelievably soft :)
Definitely try it with the higher seat, it's more comfortable and definitely puts you in a better seated attack position. I pre release ordered and expected to take some time to weigh up which I'd keep (the 450MT or Versys-X)... It didn't take long although I am yet to sell the Versys-X.
I have just purchased the 300 Rally. Collected it on Wednesday night. Was going to test ride a CFMoto but decided the Rally. I was previously riding a KLX150 and I've noticed a massive difference. need to build my confidence up on the bigger bike.
The 890 is at least 20kg more. But the CFmoto 450mt needs 5 to 10 kg protection to be protect as the 890 is stock. I have a 790R since 5 years and I have just put on a better bash plate and she can fall offroad whithout problem to continue the trip.
It's great having the opportunity to test out the cf450 moto! Definitely a good fit for light adventure riding and better road manners and lower centre of gravity to the ktm690! I would also consider looking for a used crf300 rally with low milage and the couple of thousand dollars saved vs buying new could go into aftermarket accessories, custom suspension & seat concepts seat for added comfort!
Admittedly it doesn’t always work , but turning handlebar straight or even past straight away from sidestand side , can make getting the bike off the sidestand much easier ….on any bike . Sometimes the wheel won’t allow itself to be turned , so it isn’t always feasible , but it works often .
Great review. I’m learning to ride on my crf 250l now. Really enjoying it off road. I have a deposit on the CF Motto here in the US. Not sure if I’ll be easy to move up by the time we get them. Enjoyed your video.
Hi guys, been watching for a while now. The guard on the CF Moto is like a street bike guard so if you guys hit a real glugy mud section I have a feeling the mud will build up between the tire and guard. The rest of the bike looks rad.
There have been a couple of comparison tests of the CF Moto 450 and the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450. There have been different opinions but it is often said that if you are touring on tarmac, the CF Moto is a better choice but on gravel the Himalayan is the better one. If you have the opportunity, also test the Himalayana 450 and choose a motorcycle based on where you will ride!
Nah, there's a guy in QLD Australia that is also a pretty good offroad rider and he says the CF Moto is far better off road, knowing what I know about bikes , it's easy to see why.... Far better suspension for a start....
Hey Rem, for context, could you share how tall you are and what your inseam is? My wife and I just watched, and this video has her interested in a CF Moto. Thanks!
I'm 70 years old, but could your family adopt me? As a Rally owner, I've been waiting for your review on the CF Moto. We are supposed to get them in the U.S. next month. Might have to try one.
Thing is, these days, there are no such things as bad bikes. As for Chinese brands, many, as you know, are twinned with the major brands. When it comes to resale after and general wear and tear, after warranty? We'll just have to wait and see.
Your dad should have laid it on it’s side and had you and your mom pick it up that would be the deciding factor to buy if you can’t lift it up buy yourself it would have to be a hard pass imo. The weight is the Achilles heel to that 450. I would definitely go back to the dealership and have them lay the bike down on cardboard and try to lift it you rather do it before you buy it then buy it and be sorry.
I think this is a girl's bike if you really don't like girls. The subframe collects water. I mean a lot of water, inside the frame. (That info is from Australia, where they already have this bike.) That is not ideal.
Nope, that was sorted a while back, if you have an early one, there's a very simple fix.... PS, they are selling faster than they can be supplied here in Australia...
The 690 was never a good bike for your mum. The latest have twin balancers, smooths it out a fair bit. The 690 sale will pay for a MT450. Almost. Go for a test ride on a RE Himalayan, be interested on your & mum-dads thoughts. Cheers.
@@silverdale3207 Makes plenty of sense. For a start, she'll get a new bike and some change back, the weight is lower down and is the reason she liked the bike, it doesn't feel heavy, feel is more important when riding a bike, nothing worse than riding something you don't feel comfortable on. The CF Moto has great suspension as well, heaps of options to carry gear and deck it out, and gets rave reviews from people that actually own them. They are selling like hot cakes for a reason....
Ok, all this talk about the height of the bike being comfortable or not for you all. And,,, not once do you mention how tall you guys are, or what lenght inseam you are. It would be wery helpful for your viewers if you mentioned it. Or better, wrote it in the description
People seem to gloss over the fact this bike is 430+lbs stock with no luggage or crash protection added to it. That's a lot of weight to pick up when you're loaded down in the bush. This ain't no light dual sport.
yes it's classed as an Adventure Bike not a Dual Sport, they used to all be the same but no more. But I find the 450mt easier to pick up than my DR650 was so where the weight sits counts.
Exactly, all reviews I've seen focus on it being smaller , as in 450 so makes it sound like half the weight of a 900 or something. it's a heavy bike, a 450 needs to be more like 150-160 kg range to make sense.
If they made it somewhere outside of china, maybe a bike worth looking at… china… a big NO. Yes I do have stuff made in china, but only where there is no other option.
Mate, BMW, Honda, KTM, GM, Kawasaki and a pile more companies have some of their engines, and more, made in China, there is so much ignorance around the anti China thing it's ridiculous... Besides, China has the fastest growing middle class in the world, guess who has the fastest shrinking ? the good old USA.... If you got rid of everything you own that was made in China you'd be living in a cave naked....
I Never rode that bike.. i do Ride a 790. and I think I would never trade it for a 450mt Similar weight, more power, better electronics, more aftermarket parts, better suspension etc Obviously it is more expensive to buy one.. but I am sure it’s worth it. But if I would change the bike.. I would go with way less weight.
People associate certain cars with being owned by women rather than men but don’t worry about it. It’s a video title, it’s not a cutting edge statement that you have to adhere to. 😂
Among adv bikes, a high seat height is pretty standard, making it more difficult for women to find one that will fit them. The 450MT is low by comparison, making it a better fit than most other models for the ladies.
Nothing better than a family playing together on motorcycles. 😃😃
I love how the whole family is into motorcycle ❤❤❤
I've ridden all sorts of ADV bikes & my current bike is a 1200GS which I love.
I am a motorcycle instructor & students had been asking me about the 450MT, so I took one for a test ride, I liked it so much I surprised myself by buying one, the BMW is also staying btw 😊😊
Instructioners suck tell me how to ride after 46 years of riding with no broken bones raced moto cross dick heads
@@ashleypearce3507 What are you talking about ? Try English next time when making stup1d comments...
Test rode this at a CFMoto even this Sunday. First time I've ever been on an Adventure bike. At 170cm I was able to get my feet down both sides. Not flat, but enough to be confident to take it for a spin. No off roading, but the bike felt pretty nice. I didn't really feel the weight. And I thought the throttle response was a little smoother than the 800. I don't know about modes and such. There was a bunch of CFMoto bikes to test ride freely and I tried them all. I'm not about to go buy an ADV bike anytime soon, but that test ride gave me a positive impression of the type of bike, and CFMoto's model specifically.
Great review from some “real” normal riders rather than the usual “expert” rider.
Daughter with mom and dad all riding big bikes. Now that is a super cool family 😎😎😎. Glad you guys have fun, the CFmoto or NX500 would be the choice if the upcoming KLE500 is too tall or still with tube wheel.
I am currently riding a cfmoto 300sr on my learners permit. They are a nice bike to ride at a cheaper price. Comfortable to ride for longer rides and not sore at the end. Plenty of power. Mine is slightly heavier than other competitors. But other than that I am happy with cfmoto.
Loving my 450MT, I've had it out on Enduro loops in the bush, some single track around the Sunny Coast. It's definitely a capable bike, even on the factory tyres with a bit of air out 👌
Cheers, David
Nice review and all family on bikes! Top 👌
Awesome bike indeed, It wouldn't surprise me if you guys get at least one of these. I loved doing a test ride on the 450, had a grin on my face the whole way!! I reckon you'll love it off road too!
What a fantastic video! Subbed.
What a cool family!
I have the 450MT and love it. I had to lower seat for y short legs but it's an awesome 1st adventure bike. Tyres are good on the road and on hard packed dirt/gravel but bad in muddy conditions and soft sand I believe. You wont regret buying one
Cheers!! 🍻 Nice to get a different POV. The 450MT is definitely great value for money. I have been resisting the urge to swap my Rally for one but just can’t get past the weight. Sure when riding it’s not so noticeable but drop it a few times off road and you’ll then notice its extra kgs. So I modded my Rally with SSS 301cc kit including stage 3 ECU. Whacked on a lighter free flowing exhaust and high flow air filter plus suspension upgrade. Now it’s got that extra mid to high range punch while still being light and nimble. Problem solved 😎
Forget about the weight, go ride one and feel it for yourself, I've owned around 40 bikes, NEVER have I ever made a decision on a bike before riding one.....
Such a pleasure to see moto family! Wish you a lot of great roads together! As for 450MT, it's a great choice. Very friendly, predictable and well capable off and on road bike. I've done already 9000km on that bike and it's great! For your Mom and Dad might be usefull to get a taller seat and handlebar risers. I have tham and it changed seating and standing position to more comfortable one. Also the taller seat is unbelievably soft :)
Excellent review!
I got a lot out of that video. I feel that bike would suit me perfectly going by you guys reacting.
Definitely try it with the higher seat, it's more comfortable and definitely puts you in a better seated attack position.
I pre release ordered and expected to take some time to weigh up which I'd keep (the 450MT or Versys-X)... It didn't take long although I am yet to sell the Versys-X.
Had mine here in Oz for the last few months. Pretty happy for the money.
Good review 👍🏼
I'm used to heavier 1100 and 1200 cc bikes, but was surprised at how well the CFMoto 450 performs! Definitely on my "think about" list for next time!
You've got to be the prettiest girl on YT...it's awesome that the whole family rides!
Cool! I had to google that bike, I've never heard of it before.
I have just purchased the 300 Rally. Collected it on Wednesday night. Was going to test ride a CFMoto but decided the Rally. I was previously riding a KLX150 and I've noticed a massive difference. need to build my confidence up on the bigger bike.
The 890 is at least 20kg more.
But the CFmoto 450mt needs 5 to 10 kg protection to be protect as the 890 is stock.
I have a 790R since 5 years and I have just put on a better bash plate and she can fall offroad whithout problem to continue the trip.
CF moto ,have really hit the mark with this bike.
Great review Rem. Look forward to seeing the decision
It's great having the opportunity to test out the cf450 moto! Definitely a good fit for light adventure riding and better road manners and lower centre of gravity to the ktm690!
I would also consider looking for a used crf300 rally with low milage and the couple of thousand dollars saved vs buying new could go into aftermarket accessories, custom suspension & seat concepts seat for added comfort!
Need to try the KTM 390 Adventure 🤙
I really like this, just reviewing on how the bikes make you feel.
Admittedly it doesn’t always work , but turning handlebar straight or even past straight away from sidestand side , can make getting the bike off the sidestand much easier ….on any bike .
Sometimes the wheel won’t allow itself to be turned , so it isn’t always feasible , but it works often .
perfect adv ,its light and has just the right amount of power to go on road and off road ,great review from none bias people ,cool family.
Light is relative. It weighs about the same as a Tuareg 660.
@@kugangles9860 BUT it carries it's weight LOWER, making it feel like a much smaller bike...
Been looking at one for myself, I had a wr250r and want something that bit bigger. All been great reviews on them so far.
Good video Rem🐕
Great review. I’m learning to ride on my crf 250l now. Really enjoying it off road. I have a deposit on the CF Motto here in the US. Not sure if I’ll be easy to move up by the time we get them. Enjoyed your video.
Hi guys, been watching for a while now. The guard on the CF Moto is like a street bike guard so if you guys hit a real glugy mud section I have a feeling the mud will build up between the tire and guard. The rest of the bike looks rad.
They sell a high front guard for it if that were an issue
There have been a couple of comparison tests of the CF Moto 450 and the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450. There have been different opinions but it is often said that if you are touring on tarmac, the CF Moto is a better choice but on gravel the Himalayan is the better one. If you have the opportunity, also test the Himalayana 450 and choose a motorcycle based on where you will ride!
Nah, there's a guy in QLD Australia that is also a pretty good offroad rider and he says the CF Moto is far better off road, knowing what I know about bikes , it's easy to see why.... Far better suspension for a start....
I have a bmw 1200GS. Problem is I’m 75 now and I’m looking for something smaller and lighter. The 450 T may be the answer.
Hey Rem, for context, could you share how tall you are and what your inseam is? My wife and I just watched, and this video has her interested in a CF Moto. Thanks!
Hi, I am 169cm and have about a 74cm inseam. I was able to touch the ground comfortably as well. Hope that helps. Best of luck with the bike hunting!
@@RemAdventures Thanks!
I'm 70 years old, but could your family adopt me? As a Rally owner, I've been waiting for your review on the CF Moto. We are supposed to get them in the U.S. next month. Might have to try one.
I'm number 495 thumbs up, lets hear it for me!
Told you it was a good bike 👌🏼
How was it at highway speeds?
Re the forks on your mums bike drop the fork legs through the headset about 4 or 5mm, it will handle a bit better ye ride safe ye.
Hard to go back to a thumper after getting used to the low down torque of a 270 degree twin cylinder.
nathanthepostman talk about all his bikes on RUclips. Listen to the last words un "CF Moto 450 MT vs The Rest (an overview of my A2 test fleet)"
Thing is, these days, there are no such things as bad bikes. As for Chinese brands, many, as you know, are twinned with the major brands. When it comes to resale after and general wear and tear, after warranty? We'll just have to wait and see.
Does Rem realise she was taking off in 2nd gear on the 450 ?
Am buying one myself as the Africa twin is just too heavy for me and it's so much more enjoyable intown and in the victorian high country
Comparing wet weights, the cfmoto is 20kg lighter than the ktm 890 adventure, 197kg vs 217kg.
Yeah, if I was getting something that heavy I'd want a bit more power, It looks like a nice bike and good price but power to weight ratio?
I think your mom had already made her mind on the Rally
The only thing that let's the c.f. moto bike down, is the front mud guard, it needs to higher off the front wheel.
There're two front mud guard variants for this bike
@@ShinzouWoSateSateSate awesome thanks👍
You guys are so cute🤭
Hahah this will start a war saying it's the ultimate girls bike
Your dad should have laid it on it’s side and had you and your mom pick it up that would be the deciding factor to buy if you can’t lift it up buy yourself it would have to be a hard pass imo. The weight is the Achilles heel to that 450. I would definitely go back to the dealership and have them lay the bike down on cardboard and try to lift it you rather do it before you buy it then buy it and be sorry.
It has the weight, but it's all down low, so it's actually really easy to pick up.
I had to pick my 450mt up in the garage the other day and I felt it was easier to lift than my DR6560 was.
I think this is a girl's bike if you really don't like girls.
The subframe collects water. I mean a lot of water, inside the frame. (That info is from Australia, where they already have this bike.)
That is not ideal.
Nope, that was sorted a while back, if you have an early one, there's a very simple fix.... PS, they are selling faster than they can be supplied here in Australia...
When it comes to off reading, weight is the most significant factor. Although I haven’t ridden the CRF or the MT, I’d take the CRF any day.
But when you have to get there on long roads, the CF Moto makes far more sense, better spread of power too...
The 690 was never a good bike for your mum. The latest have twin balancers, smooths it out a fair bit. The 690 sale will pay for a MT450. Almost.
Go for a test ride on a RE Himalayan, be interested on your & mum-dads thoughts. Cheers.
A lot more weight and a lot less power than 690. Doesn't really make sense.
@@silverdale3207 Yep, weight is a problem, I won't be hitting hard tracks on my Himalayan, not what I purchased it for. If only it was 20kg lighter.
@@silverdale3207 Makes plenty of sense. For a start, she'll get a new bike and some change back, the weight is lower down and is the reason she liked the bike, it doesn't feel heavy, feel is more important when riding a bike, nothing worse than riding something you don't feel comfortable on. The CF Moto has great suspension as well, heaps of options to carry gear and deck it out, and gets rave reviews from people that actually own them. They are selling like hot cakes for a reason....
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hows this a girls bike?
Ok, all this talk about the height of the bike being comfortable or not for you all. And,,, not once do you mention how tall you guys are, or what lenght inseam you are. It would be wery helpful for your viewers if you mentioned it. Or better, wrote it in the description
People seem to gloss over the fact this bike is 430+lbs stock with no luggage or crash protection added to it. That's a lot of weight to pick up when you're loaded down in the bush. This ain't no light dual sport.
yes it's classed as an Adventure Bike not a Dual Sport, they used to all be the same but no more. But I find the 450mt easier to pick up than my DR650 was so where the weight sits counts.
Exactly, all reviews I've seen focus on it being smaller , as in 450 so makes it sound like half the weight of a 900 or something. it's a heavy bike, a 450 needs to be more like 150-160 kg range to make sense.
The weight is down lower making it an easier bike to handle, It's where the weight sits that matters....
If they made it somewhere outside of china, maybe a bike worth looking at… china… a big NO. Yes I do have stuff made in china, but only where there is no other option.
Mate, BMW, Honda, KTM, GM, Kawasaki and a pile more companies have some of their engines, and more, made in China, there is so much ignorance around the anti China thing it's ridiculous... Besides, China has the fastest growing middle class in the world, guess who has the fastest shrinking ? the good old USA.... If you got rid of everything you own that was made in China you'd be living in a cave naked....
Remember folks the bike is 195kg with 90 per cent fuel tank full.
While this is true, it seems to carry the bulk of that weight down low and remains nimble 👍
True, but it feels lighter than the 300 Versys I had which is 20kg lighter. The weight is in the right place.
i was going to buy one until you said it was a girls bike
I Never rode that bike.. i do Ride a 790. and I think I would never trade it for a 450mt
Similar weight, more power, better electronics, more aftermarket parts, better suspension etc
Obviously it is more expensive to buy one.. but I am sure it’s worth it.
But if I would change the bike.. I would go with way less weight.
Such as?
How would a bike be a girls bike? That makes little sense to me.
People associate certain cars with being owned by women rather than men but don’t worry about it. It’s a video title, it’s not a cutting edge statement that you have to adhere to. 😂
@@701Adventures 🤣🤣🤣
Among adv bikes, a high seat height is pretty standard, making it more difficult for women to find one that will fit them. The 450MT is low by comparison, making it a better fit than most other models for the ladies.
@@pichejf So, better for shorter riders - independent of gender.
@@stefanhansen5882 Yes, there is also a higher seat option if you need or want more room ..