F1 2026 - The New Tyre Dimensions EXPLAINED

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  • Let's take a closer look at the new F1 tyre dimensions for 2026!
    Why did the teams want smaller rims again?
    How do they try to reduce energy consumption?
    What will change to today?
    Let me know your thoughts in the comments below!
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Комментарии • 270

  • @rassiracing5104
    @rassiracing5104 2 месяца назад +429

    The FIA baffles me. We talk about dirty air taking grip. What do they do? Take away mechanical grip. Very smart people working there.

    • @MichaelAMVM
      @MichaelAMVM 2 месяца назад +74

      1998 all over again. Reducing mechanical grip just makes the cars more aero dependent/ aero sensitive.
      I do agree about reducing the overall diameter of the front wheels so the drivers can see them properly and plant the car over the apex not go outside the track limits.

    • @Dakkyun
      @Dakkyun 2 месяца назад +11

      ​​@@MichaelAMVM actually the limit of aero grip is in the physics and the interpretation of the rules by the team, so no matter what size of wheel they run, the downforce is capped by physics and regs, something more akin to V8 supercars, they have thin tires and loads of power too, and that means more slidy actions.

    • @almabatekert_villanykorte3387
      @almabatekert_villanykorte3387 2 месяца назад +12

      ​@@Dakkyun I love V8 supercars i think they are incredibly cool,but a slide there is probably much easier to correct than in an f1 car. I'd like to see closer racing,not 20 spins every race

    • @JohnJohansen2
      @JohnJohansen2 2 месяца назад +18

      They really should concentrate more on Hamiltons jewelry.

    • @Bahamuttiamat
      @Bahamuttiamat 2 месяца назад +4

      You new? They're 🤡

  • @CyanRooper
    @CyanRooper 2 месяца назад +152

    I wish we could have the extreme tyre dimensions of the 1970s again:
    ₛₘₐₗₗ wheels up front
    █▄▄   █   █▀▀
    █▄█   █   █▄█ wheels out back
    It made the cars look like drag cars with wings.

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 2 месяца назад +22

      maybe try this the other way around for the funny

    • @pallav8725
      @pallav8725 2 месяца назад +1

      thats mostly because you couldnt run low tyre profile tyres back then, the tech just wasnt there

    • @oxonomy2372
      @oxonomy2372 2 месяца назад +2

      How did you do that font?

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper 2 месяца назад

      ​@@oxonomy2372 There's a website called fsymbols which is where I got the big font from.

    • @glitchingbee
      @glitchingbee Месяц назад +3

      I LOVE the 70s tyres, they just look really good on the cars and they give them some good rear grip

  • @seashackf1
    @seashackf1 2 месяца назад +111

    18” high profile slick tires on 800kg cars that only last 10-20 laps are also irrelevant to Pirelli’s road car business. Why pretend they are more relevant than 16”?

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад +13

      They should use 17".
      Oh wait, Michelin does it better at that size and the tire actually lasted longer

    • @samhenriques4462
      @samhenriques4462 Месяц назад +3

      Because then they don’t have to devote resources to different size tire manufacturing so they can reep as much money as possible with the sponsorship with the least amount devoted to R&D

    • @rickrolled7930
      @rickrolled7930 Месяц назад +8

      I really don't like this whole relevancy thing. F1 became one big advertising board. Please, less corporation, more simple fun!
      Also, if pirelli doesn't like something, they can fck off. There are so many tire brands out there that sticking to one almost feels like a crime. After all, there's a reason they don't use pirellis at le mans and nurburgring 24h. It's not the best tyre ever.

    • @McDonnellDouglasMD--
      @McDonnellDouglasMD-- Месяц назад

      Exactly this is the reason why I do not like Pirelli. I think they are the most useless wankers, especially last year with all that dumb comments they made I can’t remember because I’ve lost brain cells
      Exactly this is the reason why I do not like Pirelli. I think they are the most useless wankers, especially last year with all that dumb comments they made I can’t remember because I’ve lost brain cells.
      Bridgestone and Michelin would be better for f1 then the useless bag of bricks we’ve got now

    • @mvd4436
      @mvd4436 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah 16 inch seems like the only right thing about the 2026 regs so far.

  • @EikeSky
    @EikeSky 2 месяца назад +110

    As I said since this formula started, ground effect was good, but what was absolutely needed was physically smaller cars. 2026 may be too late, with endurance racing really kicking off by then, but we'll see if F1 becomes a "rich Americans and middle east" sport before then

    • @gerogyzurkov2259
      @gerogyzurkov2259 2 месяца назад

      We have to see if Hypercar can survive loopholes in regs.

    • @boostav
      @boostav 2 месяца назад +1

      Nobody actually cares about fake racing (BoP)

    • @coyy9106
      @coyy9106 2 месяца назад +17

      @@boostavYou couldn’t be more wrong, on both of your claims.

    • @theSafetyCar
      @theSafetyCar 2 месяца назад +7

      Ground effect is good but what we've also seen is the reduced slipstream effect has made overtaking harder. Perhaps relying less on ground effect and designing regs that force an inwashing wake would be a better middle ground. Still less dirty air and smaller wake allows different lines to be taken to avoid dirty air while still allowing good slipstream.

    • @boostav
      @boostav 2 месяца назад

      @@coyy9106 Because you're the typical internet NPC

  • @gianlozano102
    @gianlozano102 Месяц назад +18

    WEC: We need a different tyre size to make it fair for other teams.
    Michelin/Goodyear: say no more fam

  • @eliasmaissour437
    @eliasmaissour437 2 месяца назад +58

    This just sounds like pirelli doesn't want to put the time and ressources in developing the 16 inch tyres.everyone knows f1 is miles away from "production cars", it's not about relevancy. It's about a brand that despite being given a monopoly stance on this, still refuses to do it's job properly

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 месяца назад +11

      Typical Pirelli lmao, f1 needs a serious tire brand to provide tires

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 2 месяца назад +7

      Yes, suppling tires to F1 is about marketing for Pirelli and nothing else.

    • @stuartd9741
      @stuartd9741 2 месяца назад +9

      I agree..
      I laughed when Pirelli said but the 16 inch wheel won't match with our road cars......eh?
      ..
      F1 is an industry all by itself...

    • @Amy-dq2lg
      @Amy-dq2lg Месяц назад +1

      @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 michelin? is has best or 2nd best rnd budget

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      16" with higher profile is better for straight-line traction and wet grip (as the tyre can deform more to contour to the road) *BUT* a 18" low profile tyre with short sidewalls is better for controlling the contact patch in dry. Check out Jonathon Benson's test on road tyres, 17" was fastest in the wet on a circuit but 19" was fastest in the dry on a circuit, *even* despite the greater rotational inertia. So I wouldn't assume there are not technical and performance benefits to sticking with 18".
      F1 only went down from 15"tyres in the 1960s; to 13" tyres in the 1970's due to FIA rules after all. USAC/Indycar racing stuck with 15" from the 1960's to the present day. For the 1960's, those front 15" tyres (which were much smaller in overall diameter) were quite low profile, about the same as the profile of current F1 tyres.

  • @alenseven11
    @alenseven11 2 месяца назад +30

    How great to see F1 being a hostage of Pirelli for years already.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Месяц назад +3

      Sub standard tires which have to be run on very high pressures to protect the Italian brand feelings because they can’t adequate meet the FIA brief without major problems

    • @Marcoz588
      @Marcoz588 Месяц назад

      Honestly I would love to see a proper tyre war with the current tyre regulations (though I would like to see each team given an extra set each of hard and mediums, which would have to be used prior to qualy).
      Have Bridgestone and Michelin homologate 7 base compounds, then take a soft-medium-hard to each race, and they would have to be non-consecutive. The sport is becoming FAR too proscriptive and in danger of turning into yet another spec series.
      Also a 16 inch tyre would be ideal, better for curb riding, better for weight and driver visibility, and it would still place a hard limit of brake size.

  • @psies2005
    @psies2005 2 месяца назад +31

    The cars need to be much much smaller and lighter max 600KG. They are buses now.

    • @axelknutt5065
      @axelknutt5065 2 месяца назад

      I think it’s going to be too hard to make smaller cars as safe. Generally speaking, if I was going to be in a crash, I’d rather be in an F150 than a Mini Moke (Google it)

    • @SimRacingVeteran
      @SimRacingVeteran Месяц назад +7

      It’s hard to make a car that weighs 600 KG and still have all the safety features modern F1 cars have implemented.

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@SimRacingVeteranwho knew that carbon fiber is that heavy. I think they should ease up a bit on safety. Many cars in different categories are starting to get lighter than F1 and they're fine

  • @aventusV33
    @aventusV33 2 месяца назад +54

    Is there any way these regulations don't end up being an absolute dumpster fire ?

    • @ok-dy2tz
      @ok-dy2tz 2 месяца назад +9

      Welcome to f1, where pretty much everything has been a dumpster fire for the last couple of years

    • @squirrelsquirt
      @squirrelsquirt 2 месяца назад +10

      The Pinnacle of Motorsport, apparently.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 2 месяца назад +1

      I mean reduced width will be nice at the very least...

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад

      Remove limitations. Any limitations

  • @mrgalaxy396
    @mrgalaxy396 2 месяца назад +21

    The more I hear about these regs, the more they seem like they'll be a disaster for the sport like the 2014 regs were. The pre-2014 cars are a long distant memory at this point and they aren't coming back sadly.

    • @sfasto1
      @sfasto1 Месяц назад

      And the 2022 regs are not a disaster also?

  • @BDaan
    @BDaan 2 месяца назад +30

    If the FIA wants closer racing maybe stop changing the regulations right when the field gets close

    • @neodomdom7210
      @neodomdom7210 Месяц назад +4

      Always had this thought after the 2021 season

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 Месяц назад +1

      Well, they had to drop MGU-H because it's such a stupid idea, it didn't temp anyone into the sport except Honda (who then quit again). They've been trying to get manufacturers to drop MGU-H as far back as 2017.

  • @durodesduvo8424
    @durodesduvo8424 2 месяца назад +18

    I think the smaller these cars, the better. Looking back at 2010-2013, the cars were so exciting to watch

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 2 месяца назад +8

      The size difference is shocking when you see them side by side. These new cars are far too big.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 2 месяца назад +1

      Formula E is where the good racing is at nowadays

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      @@seashackf1 Wheelbase was free until 2021, teams did what was best for performance. :)
      Maximum width rule came in 1973, maximum height rule came in 1977 in response to the giant airboxes, the maximum wheelbase/length rule only came in 2022. Obviously it would have been great if the wheelbase had been reduced more than the 2021 average but the teams refused that.

  • @mitchdaytonam3
    @mitchdaytonam3 2 месяца назад +20

    Making the 50/50 PU work and not run out of electrical energy before the braking zone on long straights is apparently proving a real challenge. They should change the rules to 55/45.

    • @bravin_w
      @bravin_w 2 месяца назад +15

      Bring back the V10 screw hybrid

    • @ThijsSH
      @ThijsSH 2 месяца назад +3

      They should've just gone with the electric motors on the front axle if they're determined to have 50/50 and ignore the whining about Audi, cause now we end up with a shit compromise

    • @lukebennett.
      @lukebennett. 2 месяца назад

      Yes they were amazing ​@@bravin_w

    • @pr3cious193
      @pr3cious193 2 месяца назад +13

      ​@@ThijsSHthe logic behind the push to have this 50/50 hybrid system is dumb anyway. We could've had v8 engines using more "green fuels" maybe e70 and to offset the carbon emissions from the cars which are already negligible in the grand scheme of things they could cut down the number of races.
      But of course not that's just too sane and logical.

    • @Tommmmmmmmmmmm
      @Tommmmmmmmmmmm Месяц назад +1

      @@pr3cious193 "green fuels" will never work. electric is the future.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 Месяц назад +8

    2026 cars will bring F1 speeds back to speeds even slower than 2014. They will start running like 2015 LMP prototypes, quick bursts of 500hp electric motors at the start of straights and then have the 600hp motor carry the cars up to like 300kph. "200mph" will become a rare scene.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Месяц назад +2

      The 2026 car ICE will produce the lowest amount of HP seen in f1 for about 50 years, it’s a disgrace

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers 2 месяца назад +18

    Always more mudding the waters

  • @veloso98
    @veloso98 2 месяца назад +37

    Pirelli can go fly off. My cars runs 13 inch wheels!

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      That's good, but F1 cars used 15" wheels in the 1960's before 13" rears were mandated... The front 15" tyres were comparaitively low profile too, similar to the tyres now. USAC/Indycar continued with 15" from the 60's the present day, while the FIA reduced maximum rim diameter in F1 to 13" rear in the early 70's and 13" front in the early 80's.

  • @CreakingJordans
    @CreakingJordans 2 месяца назад +28

    Nimbler cars. Just make the cars smaller, but just as fast as the 2017-21 cars. Without the aggressive outwash

    • @jathiyakhan720
      @jathiyakhan720 2 месяца назад +21

      Easier said then done

    • @mrgalaxy396
      @mrgalaxy396 2 месяца назад +10

      Not happening with the hybrids and the recent safety improvements. The reason we have the mostrosities of today is because they were barely faster than GP2 with the current engine formula.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jathiyakhan720 than

    • @mintgoldheart6126
      @mintgoldheart6126 2 месяца назад

      Literally impossible and will lead to even worse racing.

    • @Willie_Pete_Was_Here
      @Willie_Pete_Was_Here Месяц назад +5

      @@mrgalaxy396F1 will never admit 2014 was a failure

  • @Dre_The_Millennial
    @Dre_The_Millennial 2 месяца назад +15

    I don't know anyone whose car has 18-inch wheels and isn't a truck. Most of us have between 14 and 16- inch wheels.

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 2 месяца назад +4

      I’ve had a car from 2005 that had 18” wheels, they’ve been around a long time. Some new performance cars have 20-22” wheels now. That said these 18” are too big for F1 and look ridiculous. I’d prefer 16” at the most.

    • @the_lost_navigator7266
      @the_lost_navigator7266 2 месяца назад +3

      The new Renault 5 will run on 18 inch wheels, to match the other models in their range.

    • @Pandamasque
      @Pandamasque 2 месяца назад +2

      18" is the base wheel on the cheapest Porsche Boxster. Any option above that is 19"+. Ridiculous, I know. They're heavy and often make the ride significantly worse. But car design of late, even on sporty cars is becoming rather truck-ish. There's only so much styling trickery they can do around a wheel arch (folds, creases, cladding etc.) to hide the fact there's a vast amount of metal above the wheel, which is a bus-like feature, not a sleek sexy car thing, so the only option is to go for gigantic wheels to maintain somewhat car-ish proportions on what is a truck-sized vehicle.

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад

      Mine run with 17" (it's R1M)

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      Almost all hot hatchbacks have come with 18" tyres since 2006-2007, following the trend of cars like the Ferrari 360 and Porsche 911 who went to 18" tyres in the late 90's... Many went as high as 20" like the Astra OPC. Porsche 911 comes with 20" front/22" rear these days... Don't forget, tyres were as large as 32"in the early days of motoring (1910's),then they gradually got smaller (27", 25", 23", 20", 18"..._) with the trend for downsizing tyres up the 1950's to increase interior space (where they went as small as 13" -14" on sedans in the 1950's). But then increasingly larger and wider radial tyres have been developed since 1960's. 15" radials were on exotic sportscars like Ferraris in the 1960's (where economy cars ran 13"), then it was 16" in the 1970's (205/55R16 was the exotic Porsche 911 front tyre in the late70's and is now the basic VW Golf/Toyota Corolla tyre size), then 17" radials came out on the 1980's Ferrari F40 (the first of their kind), then 18", 19", 20" etc...

  • @curtisthecat
    @curtisthecat 2 месяца назад +2

    Danke für die Infos

  • @ElliotMarkussen
    @ElliotMarkussen 2 месяца назад +8

    Pirelli shouldnt be the one making the rules about tyre sizes, they Are just supposed to do What the fie Tells them to do imo

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 месяца назад +2

      In typical Pirelli fashion they don’t want to do the R&D or aren’t good enough to provide said tires
      Bring back Michelin or Bridgestone to f1

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade 2 месяца назад

      Pirelli have F1 by the balls, they're the only company with the capacity to make the tyres and any interest since Michelin and Bridgestone noped out.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +2

      @@fix0the0spade "Bridgestone noped out." Bridgestone DID tender for 2025-2027, but their tender was rejected in favour of Pirelli. Even though Bridgestone were willing to pay FOM more than Pirelli (plus providing the tyres for free to the teams, just as Pirelli do). FOM wanted to stick with the status quo, for some reason.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Месяц назад

      @@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 They're more than good enough, the FIA wants tires that degrade, Pirelli could make tires that last several races if they wanted to.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Месяц назад

      @@kristoffer3000 We’ve had issues with Pirelli tires throughout their tenure in f1 and the tires are ran at such high pressure to protect them in a way Bridgestone and Michelin never had to
      Using the FIA as the reason for their shoddy tires might have worked in 2011 and 2012 but they’re 13 years into their tenure the tires are still an issue in various aspects
      Edit - there’s a reason in non control tires series’ Pirelli’s are never the favoured tires

  • @geniferteal4178
    @geniferteal4178 2 месяца назад

    2:26 Did you mean to say the rear wheels would be wider? Or larger? the number is higher but are they mounted higher? Does anything change about the location of the wheels?

  • @deeacosta2734
    @deeacosta2734 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks!

  • @chriswirges5202
    @chriswirges5202 Месяц назад +2

    The cars are too big, too heavy and these gizmos just make the development expensive. Seb already showed alternative fuels work. Additionally, drivers are reporting that the cars are going to be so difficult to drive, F2 cars are probably going to be quicker. The FIA is in La La land

  • @robertvanderlinden2813
    @robertvanderlinden2813 Месяц назад +1

    the rules arn't even introduced yet, but i think the max energie flow has to be changed back to mass flow for fuel

  • @crowntug
    @crowntug 2 месяца назад

    Could you make a video on the dallara stradale?

  • @erikostby2232
    @erikostby2232 Месяц назад

    Can bbs make wheels that don't explode when they are simply looked at for these regs? The current wheels are hindering wheel to wheel action because if there is even a slight touch the wheels basically explode and end that drivers race

  • @CannedMarmalade
    @CannedMarmalade 2 месяца назад +7

    2026 F1 gonna be slower than F2?

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад +2

      Nah, they're going to be slower than AMA Motocross

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Месяц назад +1

      Nah, but close. On the upside f2 drivers will easily adapt to f1

  • @the_lost_navigator7266
    @the_lost_navigator7266 2 месяца назад +1

    I remember your video explaining that vw group used the same size of 15 inch wheels on their different cars. Renault now seems to be doing the same. The Renault 5 will have 18 inch wheels to match other models.

    • @stuartd9741
      @stuartd9741 2 месяца назад +1

      The VW group shares components across the group..
      Economy of scale.

    • @swecreations
      @swecreations 2 месяца назад +1

      I will be putting 16" rims on mine haha

  • @zooot820
    @zooot820 2 месяца назад +3

    i had high hopes for ‘26. not anymore, especially with 50/50 pu’s. enjoy whats left of the sport while it lasts.

  • @BAndersen-ee1xy
    @BAndersen-ee1xy 2 месяца назад +5

    The more I hear of the upcoming rules changes, I am left incredibly disappointed. The p/u regs are shit. I doubt we will see any significant weight reduction. So we will continue to have an incredibly heavy car that will desperately need maximum mechanical grip. So what are they planning? A narrower car with fairly significantly narrower tyres. This is an impending disaster. They are going to be significantly slower, perhaps slightly quicker than F2. No way this nonsense happens in ‘26. At least they are not returning to the 1.8m foolishness.

    • @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
      @RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Месяц назад +1

      Any weight loss from making the cars smaller and less fuel will be negated by heavier engines and more batteries having to be fitted
      The days of sub 700kg f1 cars are long gone

  • @karlmoltzan6196
    @karlmoltzan6196 2 месяца назад +6

    I think the F1 cars are too big. too heavy and have way too much tire. I would get rid of the hybrids and go back to na engines. 3 liters, any number of cylinders. reduce the with tp 1.8 meters and wheelbase no mo more than 4 meters. min weight 600 kilograms.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Месяц назад +3

      Very big fan of mandating a reduced size because the current f1 cars are far far too large, they're supposed to be small, nimble and fast, now they're huge and fast but not nimble.

    • @pikminologueraisin2139
      @pikminologueraisin2139 Месяц назад +1

      yeah get rid off hybrids, it's not the future anymore and the v10 from 20 years literally perform better than the current v6t. the f1 cars could also be reduced in size

  • @tturi2
    @tturi2 Месяц назад

    the extra circumference is why I'm going with a bigger tyre next time I buy tyres, for the same weight on my car, I get for eg. 10% more distance from my tyres, better resistance to breaking traction and more ground clearance

  • @wqasdfew
    @wqasdfew 2 месяца назад +11

    Yo what if F1 went with SUVs instead of formula cars since they can stay road relevant 🙏🗣️🔥

    • @Pandamasque
      @Pandamasque 2 месяца назад +2

      So 23" wheels with low profile tyres?

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade 2 месяца назад +2

      Number 1 driver gets an open wheeler, number 2 driver gets a Pickup with a snow plow on the front. Protect your driver whilst attempting to end the other guys, now it's a real team game!

  • @jayb8941
    @jayb8941 Месяц назад

    So the current stiff uncomfortable rides will become even more stiffer and uncomfortable for the drivers. Brilliant job

  • @adr1uno638
    @adr1uno638 Месяц назад

    So the Front active aero is really an option, or it was a joke ?

  • @Slimmeyy
    @Slimmeyy Месяц назад

    It's wild to me that these regulations aren't even close to being done yet, and they're already underwhelming.

  • @user-ff9er4dl6g
    @user-ff9er4dl6g Месяц назад

    I'd like to see three competing tire manufacturers.

  • @TinyBearTim
    @TinyBearTim 2 месяца назад +1

    Can they just go back to a open engine reg if the team can get the engine to meet more relaxed environment rules

    • @RCmaniac667
      @RCmaniac667 Месяц назад

      Cost is the problem, a.k.a. Audi

    • @TinyBearTim
      @TinyBearTim Месяц назад

      @@RCmaniac667 we have the cost cap

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Месяц назад

      Then they have to reintroduce traction control, and probably ABS because it will be impossible to make standards ECU software. Also, it easier to cheat by hiding software for said launch control in it

    • @TinyBearTim
      @TinyBearTim Месяц назад

      @@kidpagronprimsank05 they don’t

  • @deeacosta2734
    @deeacosta2734 Месяц назад +1

    They should give them skinny ass tires like back in the 50s.

  • @_bstr_ct1832
    @_bstr_ct1832 2 месяца назад +3

    I’m tired now. Maybe if I close my eyes, it won’t matter any more!

  • @chiefdenis
    @chiefdenis Месяц назад +4

    Not a fan of the 18s at all, i really don't like them, lets go back to 13s, if pirelli doesn't like it im sure Bridgestone will be happy to make those tires

    • @SimRacingVeteran
      @SimRacingVeteran Месяц назад

      Teams would have to redesign the suspension all over again if they went back to 13s.

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 Месяц назад

    Very little cause for optimism...50/50 power with all the electric power going to the rear on smaller tyres is going to be a goddamn nightmare. The only upside is that the cars will be thinner but yeah lugging around a big battery is not going to be good...

  • @The_Pocisk
    @The_Pocisk Месяц назад

    1:18 You means 4 tyres with rims (or not)?

  • @avariqfazlurrahman69
    @avariqfazlurrahman69 Месяц назад +1

    Will Audi’s LMP1 experience really play that much into F1 I wonder? I mean yeah the last R18 had a hybrid V6 but it’s an entirely different concept

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Месяц назад

      In hybrid department probably. Also, unlike WEC, you can activate it at any speed, not 190 (or 140 for old 9x8). Audi LMP, and work on hybrid system certainly have merits, but depends on how well engineers can execute it

    • @avariqfazlurrahman69
      @avariqfazlurrahman69 Месяц назад

      @@kidpagronprimsank05 So it could be another Mercedes 2014 situation then? Hopefully though they can also develop a great chassis to balance it out, would love to see one of my favorite auto manufacturers be good at F1 🫡

  • @grizwoldphantasia5005
    @grizwoldphantasia5005 2 месяца назад +2

    Curiosity question here -- why measure rim diameter in inches? I imagine it's some historical artifact from ancient American or English beginnings, but if they can change everything else to metric, why not rim diameter? Or ... do Europeans in general measure civilian rim diameters in inches? That would really surprise me!

    • @AleksisA88
      @AleksisA88 2 месяца назад +1

      diameter in inches, width in mm

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade 2 месяца назад +6

      The rules actually define the wheel as being 457mm in diameter, which is 18 inches. It's just one of those weird artifacts that everybody refers to wheel rims by their size in inches. It's the same in cycling, even though the ETRTO standards are defined in mm, people refers to BMXs having 20 inch wheels, 29inch mtbs and so on.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      Yes, historical artefact: Michelin introduced metric TRX rim sizes in the 1970's but they did not catch on, these were made deliberately incompatible with imperial rim size tyres as the tyre mounting flange on metric TRX rims and tyres is a different design to standard rims and tyres (so as to avoid dangers of TRX tyres being inadvertently fitted to incompatible standard rims or vice versa). Therefore rim sizes remain in inches to clearly indicate how imperial rim size tyres are *NOT* compatible with metric rim size tyres. If you try to fit imperial tyres on a metric rim, or vice versa, you will have a world of problems! Michelin still produces small batches of TRX metric tyres, but most people just change to imperial-sized rims to make things easier.
      TRX rim & tyre sizes:
      340 mm. (13.36")
      365 mm. (14.37")
      390 mm. (15.35")
      415 mm. (16.33")
      These rims or tyres are absolutely *not* compatible with 13", 14", 15" and 16" tyres or rims respectively.
      TRX is from the late 70's, so wasn't around long enough to enter the 17" tyre age of the 1980's (the first 17" radials came on the Ferrari F40) or 18" age of the 1990's (and of course nowadays 22" is common on sportscars and 23" -- larger than semi-trailer's 22.5" -- is common on SUVs).

    • @grizwoldphantasia5005
      @grizwoldphantasia5005 Месяц назад +1

      Thanks, all. They're all just numbers, no one has to convert to calculate the volume of a tire or rim, but seemed so odd. Always glad to learn, and thanks again.

  • @jamescorderjr1274
    @jamescorderjr1274 Месяц назад +1

    If theu want to reduce weight so much, and they should, ditch the hybrid system.

  • @Iseenoobpeoples
    @Iseenoobpeoples Месяц назад

    275 front lol that's consumer sport car territory, the cars were already shaped like a thin rectangle it's going to be even more bizarre with less width, I heard they will also reduce the power of the ICE engine, might as well watch Prototype / GT racing.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      F1 tyres were maximum 245mm/10" section front from 1972 until 2016... The cars used to have a MUCH more rearwards weight distribution,hence the really narrow front tyres and really wide rear tyres in the 70's and 80's. I think 245mm front and 385mm rear like the MP4/4 era looks perfect IMO. We ended up with the really wide front tyres because the front and rear tyres were scaled equally in 2017 to avoid changing the weight distribution. The rear tyres had been made narrower many times by the FIA, but the fronts had always been the same size, so upon scaling the fronts became really wide (305mm).

    • @Iseenoobpeoples
      @Iseenoobpeoples Месяц назад +2

      @@TassieLorenzo I think it's a recipe for understeer, performance will be reduced, I don't think they will alter weight distribution that much.

  • @stephencurry8552
    @stephencurry8552 2 месяца назад +4

    Fact is, anything larger than a seventeen is the opposite of what is optimal.

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад +1

      As an owner of R1M, I agree

    • @stephencurry8552
      @stephencurry8552 Месяц назад

      @@literallyhuman5990 I read a paper years ago in Race Design magazine which tested wheel rim size and its affect on performance.

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад +1

      @@stephencurry8552 I prefer 16 on the front and 17 on the back with 85% bias on front.
      Why? Because it's my safe spot so I can use the front to tuck more into a corner and the rear can get extra grip to get out from corner.
      17-17 is balanced, but I prefer weight to be a bit on the front.

    • @stephencurry8552
      @stephencurry8552 Месяц назад

      @@literallyhuman5990 That fits with the math. Assuming you did not do an analysis, you have good engineering instincts.

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад

      @@stephencurry8552 I just do it because it's been my habits since I use my old underbone for Sunday racing. Bit small on the front and fat rear. The drawbacks is very noticeable, I'm easily shitted on in fast corner because my front isn't that wide and large

  • @chrisbackhouse5730
    @chrisbackhouse5730 Месяц назад +5

    The problem is the battery pack - that thing has added so much weight and size to the modern cars. Remove the battery from these cars and go back to good old engines

  • @chrispraz877
    @chrispraz877 Месяц назад +2

    Its like they're trying to make it worse ?

  • @Sporek
    @Sporek Месяц назад

    Ok, but why the hell they're going to change width? More mechanical grip - more closer racing 😵‍💫

  • @mxtt8170
    @mxtt8170 Месяц назад

    Put me in charge of the new rules. I’ll do what we all want: smaller/lighter cars, stuff V10s in them, keep ground effects cause f*ck it we ball

  • @DrunkAnton
    @DrunkAnton 2 месяца назад +1

    Fairly confident people in charge just don't get it

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k Месяц назад

    It'll make it far more competitive. Now all they have to do is do something about the abuse of track limits ¿`_

  • @AKACitizan101
    @AKACitizan101 Месяц назад +1

    Careful boys A F1 car is still look like the money. And tasty.
    Smaller wheels and tyres aren’t a good look.

  • @armanromana1580
    @armanromana1580 2 месяца назад +4

    pirelli just make decent tires fro raod cars and poeple will buy them. no one buys tires because f1 tires are the same size as road cars.

  • @bobdrooples
    @bobdrooples Месяц назад

    Regs to slow a twam that isn't there... great

  • @jamsbong
    @jamsbong 2 месяца назад

    Just the tires alone will reduce the speed of the F1 cars significantly

  • @monteb6276
    @monteb6276 Месяц назад

    Does fia want f1 to no longer be the fastest racing series around a race track?!

  • @gkinghsmith9352
    @gkinghsmith9352 Месяц назад

    I don't get it, how can the power balance be 50/50 with no front wheel generation? Where's all the power going to come from if the MGH is gone? Rear wheel braking? Is the engine transmission going to have a "generator during braking" mode? Could work I suppose but would sound stupid.
    Fear Audi, that's just baby talk if you ask me.

    • @BSport320
      @BSport320  Месяц назад

      The engine will burn extra fuel to recharge the battery.

    • @jorge8596
      @jorge8596 Месяц назад

      ​@@BSport320 wow so eco friendly, thanks FIA!

  • @izurzuhri
    @izurzuhri Месяц назад

    So audi is badass at LMP 😂

  • @jerrymunsch1349
    @jerrymunsch1349 Месяц назад

    Tire

  • @dhirun4
    @dhirun4 Месяц назад +1

    Make the cars smaller again

  • @MV1-OP81-Mclaren
    @MV1-OP81-Mclaren Месяц назад +1

    With the removal of the mgu-h and it's components why don't F1 just use 4 cylinders then instead. V8s and V10s would obviously be what we fans would love to see again but F1 is still trying to push for there cars to utilise things that can be used on road cars and 4 cylinders are one of if not the most common engine used in road cars. Plus it could be appealing for more manufacturers to join as VW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda , Mercedes, BMW , Audi , Ford and many more have had success with 4 cylinders in Motorsports. A 4 cylinder with the removal of the complicated and expensive mgu-h plus it's components could mean smaller and lighter cars as a inline 4 cylinder would take up less space than a V6.
    Japan super formula and super gt are having success with those engines. DTM before they became gt3 cars had success with 4 cylinders.Porsche had success with a 4 cylinder though a V4 and not an inline 4. BMW back in the 80s/90s bulit a very powerful inline 4 cylinder so with F1s technology today they could build powerful inline 4 cylinder engines.

    • @literallyhuman5990
      @literallyhuman5990 Месяц назад

      Another Ducati GP incoming to 4 wheels

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 Месяц назад

      The reason is that a I4 can't be a fully stressed member. It was discussed and shot down when they switched to V6s.

    • @MV1-OP81-Mclaren
      @MV1-OP81-Mclaren Месяц назад

      @@wiegraf9009 maybe use a spaceframe or would that still not work?

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      @@wiegraf9009 V4 solves that. But I prefer the V6 sound, the Porsche 919 doesn't sound that great IMO. V4s are a little samey and tiresome with their offbeat sound.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад +1

      @@wiegraf9009 Yet the I4 category engine of SuperGT and DTM is used in Super Formula without issue? That's actually quite a clever set of engine regulations: it's control turbo but the combustion chamber technology is very similar to Formula One.

  • @jaimeimperial9278
    @jaimeimperial9278 Месяц назад

    La magia y visualmente mas llamativo en un auto de carreras es su sonido y sus neumatico o llantas anchas y mas en los monoplazas como los f1 y otros. No se x q las van a reducir de tamaño. La fia y su grupo no se cansan de cometer herrores o horrores con tantas normas estupidas y contradictorias los ensancharon en llantas y chasis en 2017 y ahora vuelven atras en reducirlos de medidas como lo hicieron en 1998 hssta 2016 y en 2026 vueven hacer lo mismo no saben q hacer

  • @mtrt116e
    @mtrt116e 2 месяца назад

    I personally prefer 270/710-18 front and 355/710-18 rear, but that's not up to me, just saying.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      I'd like 245/640-18 front and 405/660-18 rear (or 670 or 680mm) like the good old days! The tyres from that era (80's, early 90's up to '92) just look right, though I'm not a fan of the downsized 13" rims compared to the15" rims on 1960's and early 70's F1 cars. When there was a 1970 March on 15" tyres and 1990 Benetton on 13" tyres parked side by side, the March's wheels definitely look more "right" than the balloonish 13" that the FIA mandated. [USAC Indycar also used 15" in the 60's and stuck with 15" until the present day.]

  • @austinslicton6974
    @austinslicton6974 2 месяца назад +4

    The SIZE of the tyres isnt the problem, it's the people MAKING them.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      Bridgestone's tender was rejected, despite offering a more lucrative commercial package for FOM. It is what it is.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Месяц назад

      No, the FIA mandate what the tires should be like, Pirelli could make far better tires but that's not what the FIA wants.
      "Bad" tires are unironically great for racing

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow Месяц назад

    Biger is better. Unfortunate to see a move in the wrong direction.

  • @user-ff9er4dl6g
    @user-ff9er4dl6g Месяц назад

    small can be better

  • @racelike
    @racelike 6 дней назад

    The cars will still be very large. They are losing a chance of making things better as they should be. The width of the tyres are not making it for a good impression

  • @KilogrammeKG
    @KilogrammeKG Месяц назад

    Why the fuck Pirelli has a word in the regulation. If they don't like it, let's change for a tire manufacturer that will answer to FIA. Bridgestone or Michelin could produce a 16inch smaller wheel. It is bad for the driver visibility. Also reducing width of tire means less mechanical grip, while we want more grip from the tire and less from aero. The car are not sufficiently lighter to have such tire width reduction at the front. That means even more understeer... The car will be even worse to drive than current gen.

  • @amjan
    @amjan Месяц назад +1

    Reducing tyre size: GREAT - current tyres are way too big
    Making front tyre smaller: GOOD - but I want the front tyres to be MUCH smaller then the rear tyres!
    Reducing car width: TERRIBLE - racing cars need to be wide. They were 215cm until 1992, now they are 200cm, and they want to make them 190cm which is close to the absolutely terrible and ugly 180cm of 1998-2016.

  • @mehdeem4270
    @mehdeem4270 2 месяца назад +2

    Good changes imo, however 2026 regs are fucked by the PU alone.

  • @The_ZeroLine
    @The_ZeroLine Месяц назад

    Narrower width tires is the only positive. Other than that, a continuing disaster.

  • @kpsig
    @kpsig Месяц назад +1

    This happens when bean counters and marketing gurus manage Motorsport. Irrelevance to the sport will doom it.

  • @johnjones928
    @johnjones928 2 месяца назад +3

    They didn't drop the MGU-H because of a feared Audi advantage, they dropped because VAG didn't want two of their companies (Porsche,Audi) spending money developing units of their own to enter the sport. F1 needs to stop letting relevance ruin this sport, the hybrid experiment is an inconclusive failure, the cost, weight and complexity as done little to nothing to improve the sport. Now they're even talking about getting rid of the 8 speed gearboxes to save weight and size, that will be the 3rd thing they've gone back on. The sport needs better forward thinking in the rule making dept.

    • @SimRacingVeteran
      @SimRacingVeteran Месяц назад

      Nowhere in the video does it say the MGU-H was dropped because of a feared Audi advantage.
      He said they didn’t want to implement any front wheel drive system because of a feared Audi advantage with their other programs that use hybrid power to the front wheels.

    • @johnjones928
      @johnjones928 Месяц назад

      @@SimRacingVeteran You're right he called it a "compromised drive train", but the reason the MGU-H was dropped was to please VAG. And the reason the FWD was taken of the table was it would had added cost, weight and complexity which is against what the proposed rule change is all about.

  • @antonfloor344
    @antonfloor344 2 месяца назад +2

    That 18 down to 16 inch is complete bullspit let’s keep the 18” and why don’t let teams decide to use front motor just add 20kg handicap.

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 2 месяца назад

      Both of those were explained in the video. They are keeping 18” wheels.

  • @O530CarrisPT_C2
    @O530CarrisPT_C2 Месяц назад +1

    Somehow, 20 inch F1 wheels should be a thing.

    • @SimRacingVeteran
      @SimRacingVeteran Месяц назад

      No. There’s barely any sidewall at 18 inches. 20 inch rims would make for an even worse ride.

  • @Ruylopez778
    @Ruylopez778 Месяц назад

    They have everything backwards. They chased headline power figures and hybrid so that they could show off numbers, and all it did was made the cars heavier and less agile, needing heavier tyres to manage all the torque. What drivers and fans want is shorter, lighter more agile cars - power and torque doesn't matter. Fans and drivers want cars that can follow closely, on tyres they can push flat out. Yeah, they can't avoid some safety features, but there's no reason to make the cars so long except engineers want it for aero performance, and there's no reason for heavy batteries when they could be pioneering cleaner fuels. They have all this hollow rhetoric about "sustainability" but increase the number of races - and fly away races, and allow massive team sizes, and massive data consumption and wind tunnel testing. There will still be ICE vehicles for decades in some countries.
    So much nonsense from F1, FIA and big gov and globalists, and the public aren't stupid enough to fall for it. It's a shame because they are so many great talents in F1 both personnel and drivers, and so much BS from manufacturers and Liberty.

  • @amygdalohippocampus
    @amygdalohippocampus Месяц назад

    You must be new to F1. Teams are always maximizing downforce, that’s why these cars are fast. It’s not mechanical grip.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Месяц назад

      This guy is F1 (and motorsports) engineers so he knows more about this than you for sure (although some might be a bit behind).

  • @samuelivascu7633
    @samuelivascu7633 2 месяца назад

    Omfg 😂

  • @funnyshorts6830
    @funnyshorts6830 2 месяца назад +1

    Going backwards.

  • @EleanorNL
    @EleanorNL 2 месяца назад +18

    Just give us back V10s! And with it, make them go from 800 kg to 650-700 kg! Everyone will be happy. Even blue haired environmentalists: cuz biofuel!

    • @Iamwolf134
      @Iamwolf134 2 месяца назад

      Just bring in the turbines, which serve the dual purpose of range extenders and aerodynamic devices simultaneously.

  • @Ruylopez778
    @Ruylopez778 Месяц назад

    Here's my "2026 regs" solution, that is both attainable, affordable and what fans and drivers want:
    -Michelin join as a tyre supplier. No sprint races. 18 race season (delete Jeddah, Abu Dhabi, Baku, Miami, Las Vegas).
    -same regs they have now, but cars shortened to the same length as 2013. Limit how much simulation they can do to predict the race strategy.
    -delete hybrid system completely and just have the ICE V6 they have now, but higher rpms. That means less torque/power, but less weight, making the cars more agile.

  • @adamtrycz
    @adamtrycz 2 месяца назад +1

    Question for someone smarter then me: Couldn't the solution for dirty air be to finally abandon the open wheele design? If cars were much more streamlined, wouldn't that produce much les dirty air? Also the fact that F1 cars hasn't conceptually changed since 1970 is kinda shocking. Like there's literally zero performance reasons for open wheel car. F1 cars are basically dinosaurs. Also open wheeled car concept has zero relevance for production cars, which is also a big topic.

    • @AdotLOM
      @AdotLOM 2 месяца назад +2

      That's a very interesting take, but I assume the simple answer is - if it ain't open-wheel, it's not a formula racing car anymore.
      That is to say, it's so ingrained in the identity of what makes an F1 car what it is that it would be impossible from a marketing point of view to achieve it.
      Except weight, that may be a factor for why they don't want to do that

    • @vercingetorige400
      @vercingetorige400 2 месяца назад +3

      @@AdotLOM you're right it's all about identity, and if it's open wheel racing it's f1 or indy. The have only an identity beceause the never changed the formula ;) a stable and lasting image is a strong one . About the weight of the farings , i can't think of the disaventages of a couple of kg per wheel compared with the huge reduction in drag and overall better stability in every condition.

    • @SimRacingVeteran
      @SimRacingVeteran Месяц назад +1

      @@vercingetorige400 - if they did that F1 cars would just look like LMDH hyper cars.

    • @vercingetorige400
      @vercingetorige400 Месяц назад

      @@SimRacingVeteran to me the redbull x2010 still looks like an f1 anyway

  • @geniferteal4178
    @geniferteal4178 2 месяца назад

    I'm calling that real engine sound. Click bait in the beginning. I highly doubt we'll ever hear It again. No matter what regulation changes, come along

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Месяц назад

      You can hear V8s, V10s V12s and H16 Grand Prix cars to your heart's content at historic meetings! Unfortunately I don't think they will be returning to current F1 any time soon. 😐

    • @geniferteal4178
      @geniferteal4178 Месяц назад +1

      @TassieLorenzo it's nice to at least have that but it's just a tease.

  • @RB26N
    @RB26N 2 месяца назад

    watching f1 going down drain is more fun, what garbage rules are waiting for this series lmao.

  • @josesammut9396
    @josesammut9396 2 месяца назад +12

    F1 is dead with this new 50 50 pu, active aero, crap

    • @RB26N
      @RB26N 2 месяца назад +1

      active aero is good imo there are still way to solves aero problem which fia can't wrap their head around.....but rest of it ,especially power unit rules ......yea f1 is dead

    • @the_lost_navigator7266
      @the_lost_navigator7266 2 месяца назад

      It seems highly likely we will see another one team dominance.
      Hope I'm wrong though.

  • @JeffSherlock
    @JeffSherlock Месяц назад

    Going back to the idotic idea of skinny tires making NASCAR-like passing a thing? This made F1 terribly boring during the Schumacher era.

  • @Joachim21100
    @Joachim21100 2 месяца назад +1

    It's worse and worse. F1 is already uninteresting, but soon it will be a bad joke.

  • @everythingman987
    @everythingman987 2 месяца назад +3

    The solution to all of F1’s dirty air problems is so fucking simple but the idiots in Paris can’t seem to grasp it:
    CLOSED WHEEL CARS
    Who said F1 HAS to be open wheel? There has even been a closed wheel F1 made by Mercedes in the 1950’s and the preceding Grand Prix era in the 30s had a few closed wheel cars. There is precedent.

    • @thechannelimashamedof2361
      @thechannelimashamedof2361 Месяц назад +1

      Nah, just embrace the dirty air. We need a drafting-centric reg set.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Месяц назад +1

      Yes, the thing that will really fix F1 is turning into another racing series altogether, great idea!
      Maybe they should enclose the cockpit, allow refueling and driver swaps so we get more drivers on the field and maybe increase race length and bring in some new circuits like Le Mans.
      🤡

  • @Iamwolf134
    @Iamwolf134 2 месяца назад +1

    As far as the claims of Pirelli not wanting to do the R&D goes, that's capitalism for you.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 Месяц назад

      Capitalism ruining something fun? Well I never, must be a day ending with y.

  • @retardno002
    @retardno002 Месяц назад +1

    Smaller wheels and thicker tires is the way to go. Pirelli can adjust the compound to avoid any impact of the diameter on deg.

  • @ExSheriffFattyBoySkinnyArms
    @ExSheriffFattyBoySkinnyArms Месяц назад

    Skinnier tyres, just effing great …